History Film / TheFogOfWar

8th Jul '16 3:12:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* UsefulNotes/ColdWar: The documentary revolves around the line of thinking of the cold warriors.
8th Jul '16 3:11:47 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheMentor: Much of the film has [=McNamara=] being the mentor to the documentary audience; he points out many mistakes and near-misses that he saw, and pleads with the audience to learn from his experiences. Particularly chilling is his recounting of a meeting in 1992 with Fidel Castro, who told him that, during the Cuban Missile Crisis 30 years previously, he (Castro) [[Main/ANuclearError wanted Khrushchev to launch the stationed missiles]].



* TheObiWan: Much of the film has [=McNamara=] being the Obi-Wan to the documentary audience; he points out many mistakes and near-misses that he saw, and pleads with the audience to learn from his experiences. Particularly chilling is his recounting of a meeting in 1992 with Fidel Castro, who told him that, during the Cuban Missile Crisis 30 years previously, he (Castro) [[Main/ANuclearError wanted Khrushchev to launch the stationed missiles]].
23rd Feb '16 11:25:00 AM TrollBrutal
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* HappilyMarried: [=McNamara=] and Margaret, his wife for 41 years. She was survived by him.

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* HappilyMarried: [=McNamara=] and Margaret, his wife for 41 years. He defines it as "a marriage made in heaven". She was survived by him.


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* WhosOnFirst: To great hilarity, when Robert Strange [=McNamara=] was asked in a telegram for his full name by his future wife in order to print wedding invitations, he wired back "My middle name is Strange," to which she retorted "I know it's strange, but what is it?"
24th Jan '16 5:26:30 PM Morgenthaler
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* PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower: Fervently believed in by Curtis [=LeMay=]. [=McNamara's=] belief in this trope slowly wanes as the incidents he relates get closer to the present day.
20th Apr '15 5:08:56 PM nombretomado
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* ColdWar: The documentary revolves around the line of thinking of the cold warriors.

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* ColdWar: UsefulNotes/ColdWar: The documentary revolves around the line of thinking of the cold warriors.
7th Jan '15 12:00:10 AM calufrax
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''The Fog Of War'' is A 2003 war documentary about the life of UsefulNotes/VietnamWar Secretary of Defence, Robert S. [=MacNamara=] and includes his eleven lessons of war. Directed by Creator/ErrolMorris.

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''The Fog Of War'' is A 2003 war documentary about the life of UsefulNotes/VietnamWar Secretary of Defence, Robert S. [=MacNamara=] [=McNamara=] and includes his eleven lessons of war. Directed by Creator/ErrolMorris.



* AnachronicOrder: [=MacNamara=] is more interested in illustrating particular points than in a strict chronology, although each individual point is usually explained chronologically. As a whole, the film starts with the Cuban Missile Crisis, jumps back to UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, advances to 1960 only to jump back to 1945, and so on.
* TheBookOfTheFilm: A companion book with the same name uses lessons from [=MacNamara's=] life to examine issues of war and peace in the 20th century.
* ColdWar: The docummentary revolves around the line of thinking of the cold warriors.
* DueToTheDead: [=MacNamara=] is notably shaken when he recalls the requiem and burial of UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy, forty years on.
* HappilyMarried: [=MacNamara=] and Margaret, his wife for 41 years. She was survived by him.
* HonestAdvisor: One of the reasons why [=MacNamara=] continued in office under UsefulNotes/LyndonJohnson and became the longest serving Secretary of Defense.
* MortonsFork: [=MacNamara=] is asked a difficult question about the VietnamWar and answers "damned if I do (reply), damned if I don't". He chooses to remain quiet.
* PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower: Fervently believed in by Curtis [=LeMay=]. [=MacNamara's=] belief in this trope slowly wanes as the incidents he relates get closer to the present day.
* RefusalOfTheCall: [=MacNamara=] was reluctant about his joining the cabinet because he knew nothing about politics. JFK [[TheCharmer charmingly]] convinced him by saying "Look, Bob, I don't think there's any school for Presidents either."

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* AnachronicOrder: [=MacNamara=] [=McNamara=] is more interested in illustrating particular points than in a strict chronology, although each individual point is usually explained chronologically. As a whole, the film starts with the Cuban Missile Crisis, jumps back to UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, advances to 1960 only to jump back to 1945, and so on.
* TheBookOfTheFilm: A companion book with the same name uses lessons from [=MacNamara's=] [=McNamara's=] life to examine issues of war and peace in the 20th century.
* ColdWar: The docummentary documentary revolves around the line of thinking of the cold warriors.
* DueToTheDead: [=MacNamara=] [=McNamara=] is notably shaken when he recalls the requiem and burial of UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy, forty years on.
* HappilyMarried: [=MacNamara=] [=McNamara=] and Margaret, his wife for 41 years. She was survived by him.
* HonestAdvisor: One of the reasons why [=MacNamara=] [=McNamara=] continued in office under UsefulNotes/LyndonJohnson and became the longest serving Secretary of Defense.
* MortonsFork: [=MacNamara=] [=McNamara=] is asked a difficult question about the VietnamWar and answers "damned if I do (reply), damned if I don't". He chooses to remain quiet.
* PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower: Fervently believed in by Curtis [=LeMay=]. [=MacNamara's=] [=McNamara's=] belief in this trope slowly wanes as the incidents he relates get closer to the present day.
* RefusalOfTheCall: [=MacNamara=] [=McNamara=] was reluctant about his joining the cabinet because he knew nothing about politics. JFK [[TheCharmer charmingly]] convinced him by saying "Look, Bob, I don't think there's any school for Presidents either."



* TheObiWan: Much of the film has [=MacNamara=] being the Obi-Wan to the documentary audience; he points out many mistakes and near-misses that he saw, and pleads with the audience to learn from his experiences. Particularly chilling is his recounting of a meeting in 1992 with Fidel Castro, who told him that, during the Cuban Missile Crisis 30 years previously, he (Castro) [[Main/ANuclearError wanted Khrushchev to launch the stationed missiles]].
* TheSmartGuy: [=MacNamara=]'s background; war data analyst, whiz kid at Ford and later successful CEO.
* SmartPeopleWearGlasses: [=MacNamara=]'s iconic glasses contribute to his intellectual aura.

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* TheObiWan: Much of the film has [=MacNamara=] [=McNamara=] being the Obi-Wan to the documentary audience; he points out many mistakes and near-misses that he saw, and pleads with the audience to learn from his experiences. Particularly chilling is his recounting of a meeting in 1992 with Fidel Castro, who told him that, during the Cuban Missile Crisis 30 years previously, he (Castro) [[Main/ANuclearError wanted Khrushchev to launch the stationed missiles]].
* TheSmartGuy: [=MacNamara=]'s [=McNamara=]'s background; war data analyst, whiz kid at Ford and later successful CEO.
* SmartPeopleWearGlasses: [=MacNamara=]'s [=McNamara=]'s iconic glasses contribute to his intellectual aura.



--> '''[=MacNamara=]:''' I don't want to suggest that it was I who put in [[GeneralRipper LeMay's]] mind that his operations were totally inefficient and had to be drastically changed. But, anyhow, that's what he did. He took the B29s down to 5,000 feet and he decided to bomb with firebombs.

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--> '''[=MacNamara=]:''' '''[=McNamara=]:''' I don't want to suggest that it was I who put in [[GeneralRipper LeMay's]] mind that his operations were totally inefficient and had to be drastically changed. But, anyhow, that's what he did. He took the B29s down to 5,000 feet and he decided to bomb with firebombs.



* WorthyAdversary: [=MacNamara=] portrays UsefulNotes/FidelCastro and Kruschev as rational, pragmatic counterparts during the CubanMissileCrisis.

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* WorthyAdversary: [=MacNamara=] [=McNamara=] portrays UsefulNotes/FidelCastro and Kruschev as rational, pragmatic counterparts during the CubanMissileCrisis.
6th Jan '15 11:57:44 PM calufrax
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* TheObiWan: Much of the film has [=MacNamara=] being the Obi-Wan to the documentary audience; he points out many mistakes and near-misses that he saw, and pleads with the audience to learn from his experiences. Particularly chilling is his recounting of a meeting in 1992 with Fidel Castro, who told him that, during the Cuban Missile Crisis 30 years previously, he (Castro) [[Main/ANuclearError wanted Khrushchev to launch the stationed missiles]].
24th Nov '14 8:03:41 AM LongLiveHumour
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* WorthyAdversary: [=MacNamara=] portrays FidelCastro and Kruschev as rational, pragmatic counterparts during the CubanMissileCrisis.

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* WorthyAdversary: [=MacNamara=] portrays FidelCastro UsefulNotes/FidelCastro and Kruschev as rational, pragmatic counterparts during the CubanMissileCrisis.
7th Mar '14 2:08:28 AM Fireblood
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* RefusalOfTheCall: [=MacNamara=] was reluctant about his joining the cabinet because he knew nothing about politics, JFK [[TheCharmer charmingly]] convinces him by telling him "Look, Bob, I don't think there's any school for Presidents either."

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* RefusalOfTheCall: [=MacNamara=] was reluctant about his joining the cabinet because he knew nothing about politics, politics. JFK [[TheCharmer charmingly]] convinces convinced him by telling him saying "Look, Bob, I don't think there's any school for Presidents either."



* StockFootage: as a documentary about the history of the twentieth century, it uses quite a lot, but usually rather well.

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* StockFootage: as As a documentary about the history of the twentieth century, it uses quite a lot, but usually rather well.
3rd Feb '14 4:55:13 PM MarkLungo
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''The Fog Of War'' is A 2003 war documentary about the life of VietnamWar Secretary of Defence, Robert S. [=MacNamara=] and includes his eleven lessons of war. Directed by Creator/ErrolMorris

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''The Fog Of War'' is A 2003 war documentary about the life of VietnamWar UsefulNotes/VietnamWar Secretary of Defence, Robert S. [=MacNamara=] and includes his eleven lessons of war. Directed by Creator/ErrolMorris
Creator/ErrolMorris.



* AnachronicOrder: [=MacNamara=] is more interested in illustrating particular points than in a strict chronology, although each individual point is usually explained chronologically. As a whole, the film starts with the Cuban Missile Crisis, jumps back to World War One, advances to 1960 only to jump back to 1945, and so on.

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* AnachronicOrder: [=MacNamara=] is more interested in illustrating particular points than in a strict chronology, although each individual point is usually explained chronologically. As a whole, the film starts with the Cuban Missile Crisis, jumps back to World War One, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, advances to 1960 only to jump back to 1945, and so on.



* DueToTheDead: [=MacNamara=] is notably shaken when he recalls the requiem and burial of {{JFK}}, forty years on.

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* DueToTheDead: [=MacNamara=] is notably shaken when he recalls the requiem and burial of {{JFK}}, UsefulNotes/JohnFKennedy, forty years on.



* HonestAdvisor: One of the reasons why [=MacNamara=] continued in office under {{LBJ}} and became the longest serving Secretary of Defense.

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* HonestAdvisor: One of the reasons why [=MacNamara=] continued in office under {{LBJ}} UsefulNotes/LyndonJohnson and became the longest serving Secretary of Defense.
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