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* {{Bifauxnen}}: Lydia, Marco's girlfriend.
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* DudeShesLikeInAComa: Two, both really in a coma, though strictly speaking [[spoiler: only one is a girlfriend]].
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* IncredibleShrinkingMan: There's a subplot where Benigno sees a silent movie where a scientist develops a shrinking serum. Her boyfriend drinks it, [[spoiler: and then literally [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs CRAWLS INSIDE HER VAGINA FOREVER]].]]
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* IncredibleShrinkingMan: There's a subplot where Benigno sees a silent movie where a scientist develops a shrinking serum. Her boyfriend drinks it, [[spoiler: and then literally [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs [[OrificeInvasion CRAWLS INSIDE HER VAGINA FOREVER]].]]
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Even though Lydia dies, Alicia eventually wakes up and it is strongly imlpied that Marco and Alicia end up together.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Even though Lydia dies, Alicia eventually wakes up and it is strongly imlpied implied that Marco and Alicia end up together.]]
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* InnocentFanserviceGirl: Even though Alicia is unconscious for almost the whole movie, she is presented in a notably erotic and/or sensual fashon, with several nude scenes. [[spoiler: She sensually half-smiles through most of them.]]
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* InnocentFanserviceGirl: Even though Alicia is unconscious for almost the whole movie, she is presented in a notably erotic and/or sensual fashon, fashion, with several nude scenes. [[spoiler: She sensually half-smiles through most of them.]]]]
* IncredibleShrinkingMan: There's a subplot where Benigno sees a silent movie where a scientist develops a shrinking serum. Her boyfriend drinks it, [[spoiler: and then literally [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs CRAWLS INSIDE HER VAGINA FOREVER]].]]
* IncredibleShrinkingMan: There's a subplot where Benigno sees a silent movie where a scientist develops a shrinking serum. Her boyfriend drinks it, [[spoiler: and then literally [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs CRAWLS INSIDE HER VAGINA FOREVER]].]]
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* TheIncredibleShrinkingMan: There's a subplot where Benigno sees a silent movie where a scientist develops a shrinking serum. Her boyfriend drinks it, [[spoiler: and then literally [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs CRAWLS INSIDE HER VAGINA FOREVER]].]]
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* TheIncredibleShrinkingMan: IncredibleShrinkingMan: There's a subplot where Benigno sees a silent movie where a scientist develops a shrinking serum. Her boyfriend drinks it, [[spoiler: and then literally [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs CRAWLS INSIDE HER VAGINA FOREVER]].]]
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* AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever: There's a subplot where Benigno sees a silent movie where a scientist develops a shrinking serum. Her boyfriend drinks it, [[spoiler: and then literally [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs CRAWLS INSIDE HER VAGINA FOREVER]].]]
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* AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever: TheIncredibleShrinkingMan: There's a subplot where Benigno sees a silent movie where a scientist develops a shrinking serum. Her boyfriend drinks it, [[spoiler: and then literally [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs CRAWLS INSIDE HER VAGINA FOREVER]].]]
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''Talk to Her'' (''Hable con ella'') is a 2002 Spanish comedy-drama film by Creator/PedroAlmodovar. It features Marco, a writer and Benigno an orderly, who both struggle with the implications of the women of their lives being stuck in a persistent vegetative states.
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''Talk to Her'' (''Hable con ella'') is a 2002 Spanish comedy-drama film by Creator/PedroAlmodovar. It features Marco, a writer and Benigno an orderly, who both struggle with the implications of the women of their lives being stuck in a persistent vegetative states.
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* MoralDissonance: Subverted. Only Almadovar could make Benigno such a sweet lovable guy regardless of what he does.
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* AuthorAppeal: Seems like most of Almodovar's movies have Matadors in them. Just sayin'.
** It's a cultural thing.
** It's a cultural thing.
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* AuthorAppeal: AuthorAppeal:
** Seems like most of Almodovar's movies have Matadors in them. Justsayin'.
** It's a cultural thing.sayin'.
** Seems like most of Almodovar's movies have Matadors in them. Just
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* BirthDeathJuxtaposition: Played with. [[spoiler:Lydia give birth to a stillborn child, but wakes from her coma (essentially coming back to life) because of it. However, Benigno dies shortly after.]]
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* BirthDeathJuxtaposition: Played with. [[spoiler:Lydia [[spoiler:Alicia give birth to a stillborn child, but wakes from her coma (essentially coming back to life) because of it. However, Benigno dies shortly after.]]
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* TitleDrop: Benigno, giving advice to Marco.
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: [[spoiler:Alicia was in a coma for a long time, was raped by someone meant to take care of her and was only awakened by the birth of her stillborn child. Meanwhile, Marco loses a lover as well as a friend, and there's nothing he can do about it. Fortunately, each has a MaybeAfterEver in the other.]]
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: [[spoiler:Alicia was in a coma for a long time, was raped by someone meant to take care of her and was only awakened by the birth of her stillborn child. Meanwhile, Marco loses a lover as well as a friend, and there's nothing he can do about it. Fortunately, each has a MaybeAfterEver MaybeEverAfter in the other.]]
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: [[spoiler:Alicia was in a coma for a long time, was raped by someone meant to take care of her and was only awakened by the birth of her stillborn child. Meanwhile, Marco loses a lover as well as a friend, and there's nothing he can do about it. Fortunately, each has a MaybeAfterEver in the other.]]
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* BirthDeathJuxtaposition: Played with. [[spoiler:Lydia give birth to a stillborn child, but wakes from her coma (essentially coming back to life) because of it. However, Benigno dies shortly after.]]
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* ConverseWithTheUnconscious: Benigno urges Marco to do so with Lydia, as he himself regularly does this with Alicia.
* DisappearedDad: Benigno's father left his family to start fresh in another country.
* FanDisservice: [[spoiler:The sensual massage Benigno gives Alicia reeks of this despite her beautiful body, especially as it becomes clear he's about to rape her.]]
* {{Foreshadowing}}: The doctor informs Marco that miracle awakenings from comas are possible, citing a patient who fell into a coma for years after giving birth. [[spoiler:Pregnancy will become key to getting Alicia out of her coma, too.]]
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* {{Meaningful Name}}: Lampshaded with Lydia, which is similar to the Spanish "lidia." For those who don't know Spanish and can't wait for google translate to load, lidia means bullfight. Lydia is a bullfighter.
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* {{Meaningful Name}}: TheLadette: Alicia's father's secretary is quite coarse and rude and isn't shy about announcing that she just took a dump.
* ManlyTears: Marco sheds them quite often during the film.
* MaybeEverAfter: [[spoiler:The film ends with the surviving leads smiling at each other at the theater, with "Marco y Alicia" displayed on screen, as happened with the other couples.]]
* MayDecemberRomance: Lydia notes that Marco's ex is much younger than he is. [[spoiler:In the end, it's implied that the fortysomething Marco will get together with Alicia, who's in her twenties.]]
* MeaningfulName: Lampshaded with Lydia, which is similar to the Spanish "lidia." For those who don't know Spanish and can't wait for google translate to load, lidia means bullfight. Lydia is a bullfighter.
* ManlyTears: Marco sheds them quite often during the film.
* MaybeEverAfter: [[spoiler:The film ends with the surviving leads smiling at each other at the theater, with "Marco y Alicia" displayed on screen, as happened with the other couples.]]
* MayDecemberRomance: Lydia notes that Marco's ex is much younger than he is. [[spoiler:In the end, it's implied that the fortysomething Marco will get together with Alicia, who's in her twenties.]]
* MeaningfulName: Lampshaded with Lydia, which is similar to the Spanish "lidia." For those who don't know Spanish and can't wait for google translate to load, lidia means bullfight. Lydia is a bullfighter.
* MissingMom: In a flashback, Alicia mentions to Benigno that her mother died a long time ago.
* MommasBoy: Benigno took care of his mother for practically his whole life, which helps make Alicia's father [[MistakenForGay suspect that he's gay.]]
* NoPeriodsPeriod: Averted. [[spoiler:Alicia begins missing her period, which makes the doctors realize she's pregnant.]]
* OldFlame: Lydia had a tempestuous relationship with another matador, which was all over the tabloids. [[spoiler:Marco discovers that she was intending to return to him, which she never got a chance to tell him.]]
* ParentalSubstitute: As Alicia's mother passed away a long time ago, her dance teacher acts as her mother figure and spoils her in and out of the hospital.
* OldFlame: Lydia had a tempestuous relationship with another matador, which was all over the tabloids. [[spoiler:Marco discovers that she was intending to return to him, which she never got a chance to tell him.]]
* ParentalSubstitute: As Alicia's mother passed away a long time ago, her dance teacher acts as her mother figure and spoils her in and out of the hospital.
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''Talk to Her'' (''Hable con ella'') is a 2002 Spanish language comedy-drama film by Creator/PedroAlmodovar. It features Marco, a writer and Benigno an orderly, who both struggle with the implications of the women of their lives being stuck in a persistent vegetative states.
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Their friendship and Marco's acceptence of Lydia's state is the focus of the film [[spoiler: until it is revealed that Alicia is pregnant and Benigno is accused of raping her.]]
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[[spoiler: That's right, [[{{Squick}} Alicia is pregnant!]] ]]
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[[spoiler: That's right, [[{{Squick}} Alicia is pregnant!]] ]]
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Their friendship and Marco's acceptence of Lydia's state is the focus of the film [[spoiler: until it is revealed that Alicia is pregnant and Benigno is accused of raping her.]]
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[[spoiler: That's right, [[{{Squick}} Alicia is pregnant!]] ]]
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* [[MenDontCry Men Don't Cry]]: Averted, in a way that manages to make the man crying much more sympathetic.
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''Talk to Her'' (''Hable con ella'') is a Spanish language film by Pedro Almodovar.Creator/PedroAlmodovar. It features Marco, a writer and Benigno an orderly, who both struggle with the implications of the women of their lives being stuck in a persistent vegetative states.
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* FilmWithinAFilm: "Amante Menguante" -- the black and white silent movie sequence. Silent film hero Alfredo takes a potion and becomes so small that he ends up wandering around on the body of the sleeping Amparo. He goes for a walk on her breasts and even climbs inside her vagina, his attentions giving her sweet, sexual dreams.
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* BittersweetEndingBittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Even though Lydia dies, Alicia eventually wakes up and it is strongly imlpied that Marco and Alicia end up together.]]
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* ConvenientComa: [[spoiler: Even though Lydia dies, Alicia eventually wakes up and it is strongly imlpied that Marco and Alicia end up together.]]ConvenientComa
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* StalkerWithACrush: Benigno's interaction with Alicia before she falls into a coma. He watches her dance practice from his apartment, follows her home, and books an appointment with her psychiatrist father in order to see her.
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* StalkerWithACrush: Benigno's interaction with Alicia before she falls into a coma. He watches her dance practice from his apartment, follows her home, and books an appointment with her psychiatrist father in order just as an excuse to see her.
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* IronicName: Benigno's name is Spanish for harmless, or benign, and is even referenced in one scene when he says to Alicia, "Don't worry. I'm harmless". It seems to fit him perfectly, until [[spoiler: he rapes Alicia]].
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''Talk to Her'' (''Hable con ella'') is a Spanish language film by Pedro Almodovar. It features Marco, a writer and Benigno an orderly, who both struggle with the implications of the women of their lives being stuck in a persistent vegetative states.
The film begins with Marco, an otherwise tough and masculine man being brought to tears while seeing a ballet. Next to him is Benigno a sweet, harmless looking dude who is moved by Marco's reaction. They almost meet, but they don't.
Next we see Benigno back at his job at the clinic, taking care of a very very pretty young girl in a coma, named Alicia. We quickly find out that he is deeply in love with her, and only works at this clinic to be close to her.
We learn that Marco is a sad, sensitive man who pines for a lost love. He is given an assignment to interview a fiery but emotionally damaged woman named Lydia, who happens to be a bull fighter. Although their meeting is initially fraught, the two eventually hit it off and become lovers.
Through a series of flash backs and flash forwards, we learn more about Marco's relationship with Lydia until she is gored by a bull and put in a coma.
As it happens, Lydia and Alicia are in the same clinic and the Benigno remembers Marco from the ballet. Both of them are in the same situation, so they become friends.
Their friendship and Marco's acceptence of Lydia's state is the focus of the film [[spoiler: until it is revealed that Alicia is pregnant and Benigno is accused of raping her.]]
Wait, what?
[[spoiler: That's right, [[{{Squick}} Alicia is pregnant!]] ]]
It gets worse.
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!!This film is an example of the following tropes:
* AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever: There's a subplot where Benigno sees a silent movie where a scientist develops a shrinking serum. Her boyfriend drinks it, [[spoiler: and then literally [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs CRAWLS INSIDE HER VAGINA FOREVER]].]]
* AuthorAppeal: Seems like most of Almodovar's movies have Matadors in them. Just sayin'.
** It's a cultural thing.
** The {{Deconstruction}} of various sexuality-related themes is a broader example.
* BeastlyBloodsports: Lydia is a bullfighter. Her profession is not questioned, and may even add to her sex appeal.
* {{Bifauxnen}}: Lydia, Marco's girlfriend.
* BittersweetEnding
* CloudCuckoolander: Sheltered Benigno's main reason for being sympathetic is that he doesn't really know any better. His disconnect with reality is so extreme it sends him into {{Deconstruction}} territory.
* ConvenientComa: [[spoiler: Even though Lydia dies, Alicia eventually wakes up and it is strongly imlpied that Marco and Alicia end up together.]]
* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler: Benigno, though he wasn't exactly trying to commit suicide. He wanted to put himself in a coma, to be closer to Alicia.]]
* DudeShesLikeInAComa: Two, both really in a coma, though strictly speaking [[spoiler: only one is a girlfriend]].
** [[spoiler: Technically, ''neither'' of them are.]]
* InnocentFanserviceGirl: Even though Alicia is unconscious for almost the whole movie, she is presented in a notably erotic and/or sensual fashon, with several nude scenes. [[spoiler: She sensually half-smiles through most of them.]]
* [[MenDontCry Men Don't Cry]]: Averted, in a way that manages to make the man crying much more sympathetic.
* MistakenForGay: Toyed around with (in the dramatic sense) in relation to Benigno, likely exposing the viewer's initial assumptions about the character in the process.
* MoralDissonance: Subverted. Only Almadovar could make Benigno such a sweet lovable guy regardless of what he does.
* RapePortrayedAsRedemption: It's implied that the main reason that Alicia wakes up is [[spoiler:the birth of her stillborn child]].
* RuleOfDrama: A lot of key things in the plot would only happen the movies. [[spoiler: Alicia waking up due to her pregnancy]] for example.
* TheStoic: Subverted with Marco. He ends up having a lot to cry about. And he does.
* WhatTheHellHero: [[spoiler: Benigno has a moment like this with the clinic staff.]]
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The film begins with Marco, an otherwise tough and masculine man being brought to tears while seeing a ballet. Next to him is Benigno a sweet, harmless looking dude who is moved by Marco's reaction. They almost meet, but they don't.
Next we see Benigno back at his job at the clinic, taking care of a very very pretty young girl in a coma, named Alicia. We quickly find out that he is deeply in love with her, and only works at this clinic to be close to her.
We learn that Marco is a sad, sensitive man who pines for a lost love. He is given an assignment to interview a fiery but emotionally damaged woman named Lydia, who happens to be a bull fighter. Although their meeting is initially fraught, the two eventually hit it off and become lovers.
Through a series of flash backs and flash forwards, we learn more about Marco's relationship with Lydia until she is gored by a bull and put in a coma.
As it happens, Lydia and Alicia are in the same clinic and the Benigno remembers Marco from the ballet. Both of them are in the same situation, so they become friends.
Their friendship and Marco's acceptence of Lydia's state is the focus of the film [[spoiler: until it is revealed that Alicia is pregnant and Benigno is accused of raping her.]]
Wait, what?
[[spoiler: That's right, [[{{Squick}} Alicia is pregnant!]] ]]
It gets worse.
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!!This film is an example of the following tropes:
* AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever: There's a subplot where Benigno sees a silent movie where a scientist develops a shrinking serum. Her boyfriend drinks it, [[spoiler: and then literally [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs CRAWLS INSIDE HER VAGINA FOREVER]].]]
* AuthorAppeal: Seems like most of Almodovar's movies have Matadors in them. Just sayin'.
** It's a cultural thing.
** The {{Deconstruction}} of various sexuality-related themes is a broader example.
* BeastlyBloodsports: Lydia is a bullfighter. Her profession is not questioned, and may even add to her sex appeal.
* {{Bifauxnen}}: Lydia, Marco's girlfriend.
* BittersweetEnding
* CloudCuckoolander: Sheltered Benigno's main reason for being sympathetic is that he doesn't really know any better. His disconnect with reality is so extreme it sends him into {{Deconstruction}} territory.
* ConvenientComa: [[spoiler: Even though Lydia dies, Alicia eventually wakes up and it is strongly imlpied that Marco and Alicia end up together.]]
* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler: Benigno, though he wasn't exactly trying to commit suicide. He wanted to put himself in a coma, to be closer to Alicia.]]
* DudeShesLikeInAComa: Two, both really in a coma, though strictly speaking [[spoiler: only one is a girlfriend]].
** [[spoiler: Technically, ''neither'' of them are.]]
* InnocentFanserviceGirl: Even though Alicia is unconscious for almost the whole movie, she is presented in a notably erotic and/or sensual fashon, with several nude scenes. [[spoiler: She sensually half-smiles through most of them.]]
* [[MenDontCry Men Don't Cry]]: Averted, in a way that manages to make the man crying much more sympathetic.
* MistakenForGay: Toyed around with (in the dramatic sense) in relation to Benigno, likely exposing the viewer's initial assumptions about the character in the process.
* MoralDissonance: Subverted. Only Almadovar could make Benigno such a sweet lovable guy regardless of what he does.
* RapePortrayedAsRedemption: It's implied that the main reason that Alicia wakes up is [[spoiler:the birth of her stillborn child]].
* RuleOfDrama: A lot of key things in the plot would only happen the movies. [[spoiler: Alicia waking up due to her pregnancy]] for example.
* TheStoic: Subverted with Marco. He ends up having a lot to cry about. And he does.
* WhatTheHellHero: [[spoiler: Benigno has a moment like this with the clinic staff.]]
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