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'''''Some Kind of Wonderful''''' is a 1987 romantic teen dramedy film. Though it was directed by Howard Deutch, it was film written by Creator/JohnHughes and directed by Howard Deutsch. It is viewed as part of the final entry in Hughes's cycle of teen films in TheEighties.
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->''It's not a great movie. It progresses slowly at times and it uses some fairly standard characters. But it is not about whether the hero will get the girl. It is about whether the hero should get the girl, and when was the last time you saw a movie that even knew that could be the question?''
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* AlphaBitch: Subverted with Amanda; she runs with the rich and popular crowd, and Watts tries to stop Keith from dating her because she ''thinks'' Amanda is the AlphaBitch, but she's actually a very nice girl.<br>Keith: She's not big money. Do you know where she lives?<br>
Watts: Yeah, in our sector. But she runs with the rich and the beautiful .. .which is guilt by association.
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* AlphaBitch: Subverted with Amanda; she runs with the rich and popular crowd, and Watts tries to stop Keith from dating her because she ''thinks'' Amanda is the AlphaBitch, but she's actually a very nice girl.<br>Keith: girl (and working-class, like Watts and Keith).:
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Watts:lives?
-->'''Watts:''' Yeah, in our sector. But she runs with the rich and the beautiful .. .which is guilt by association.
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-->'''Watts:''' Yeah, in our sector. But she runs with the rich and the beautiful .. .which is guilt by association.
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A key point to the whole film was that Amanda Jones was NOT rich, so calling her rich is a bad mistake. Like Veronica Mars, only moreso, she was dating and associating out of her class.
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The protagonist, Keith (Eric Stoltz) is a working-class student, who's in love with popular, rich girl Amanda Jones (Lea Thompson). Meanwhile, his tomboyish best friend, Watts (Mary Stuart Masterson) is in love with him, but Keith doesn't notice that. Keith eventually asks Amanda out, right after she broke up with her jerk of a boyfriend, so, mainly out of spite, she says yes. Watts's jealousy causes conflict between her and Keith, but they reconcile, and Watts chauffeurs Keith to his date. At first, Keith and Amanda hit it off, but Keith realizes that he loves Watts. Amanda tells him to go to her, and they get together.
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The protagonist, Keith (Eric Stoltz) is a working-class student, who's in love with popular, rich popular girl Amanda Jones (Lea Thompson). Meanwhile, his tomboyish best friend, Watts (Mary Stuart Masterson) is in love with him, but Keith doesn't notice that. Keith eventually asks Amanda out, right after she broke up with her jerk of a boyfriend, so, mainly out of spite, she says yes. Watts's jealousy causes conflict between her and Keith, but they reconcile, and Watts chauffeurs Keith to his date. At first, Keith and Amanda hit it off, but Keith realizes that he loves Watts. Amanda tells him to go to her, and they get together.
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* AlphaBitch: Subverted with Amanda; she is runs with the rich and popular, popular crowd, and Watts tries to stop Keith from dating her because she ''thinks'' Amanda is the AlphaBitch, but she's actually a very nice girl.<br>Keith: She's not big money. Do you know where she lives?<br>
Watts: Yeah, in our sector. But she runs with the rich and the beautiful .. .which is guilt by association.
Watts: Yeah, in our sector. But she runs with the rich and the beautiful .. .which is guilt by association.
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* DawsonCasting: Stoltz and Thompson played teenagers at the age of 26 (Masterson was 20).
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** In reality, I'd say the Alpha Bitch of the piece is more likely Shayne - Amanda's apparent best friend who tunes out to be rather fair-weather. Amanda is more of a hanger-on with the popular set rather than an incumbent.
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-->'''Duncan:''' I'm here to kick wipe the floor with your ass, and you know it, and everybody here knows it, and above all, you ''deserve'' it. In fact, I think it's safe to say that this party is about to become a historical fact.
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* SheCleansUpNicely: Averted; Watts doesn't change her tomboyish style, and still gets the guy.
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* SheCleansUpNicely: Averted; Watts doesn't change her tomboyish style, and still gets the guy. She does dress up in the last act, but she puts on a male chauffeur's uniform, not a dress.
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* JerkassFacade: Duncan, Keith's skinhead/biker friend, is actually quite nice and polite and does his best to look out for Keith and Amanda.
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* ThemeNaming: Keith and Watts are both named after members of the Rolling Stones, and "Miss Amanda Jones" was the title of one of their songs.
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* IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer: As Watts tells Amanda, "You break his heart, I break your face."
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->''It's not a great movie. It progresses slowly at times and it uses some fairly standard characters. But it is not about whether the hero will get the girl. It is about whether the hero should get the girl, and when was the last time you saw a movie that even knew that could be the question?''
-->--'''{{Roger Ebert}}'s''' [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19870227/REVIEWS/702270305/1023 review]]
''Some Kind of Wonderful'' is an 1987 teen film, written by JohnHughes. Though it was directed by Howard Deutch, it's viewed as a Hughes film.
The protagonist, Keith (Eric Stoltz) is a working-class student, who's in love with popular, rich girl Amanda Jones (Lea Thompson). Meanwhile, his tomboyish best friend, Watts (Mary Stuart Masterson) is in love with him, but Keith doesn't notice that. Keith eventually asks Amanda out, right after she broke up with her jerk of a boyfriend, so, mainly out of spite, she says yes. Watts's jealousy causes conflict between her and Keith, but they reconcile, and Watts chauffeurs Keith to his date. At first, Keith and Amanda hit it off, but Keith realizes that he loves Watts. Amanda tells him to go to her, and they get together.
The film is similar to Hughes and Deutch's previous collaboration ''Film/{{Pretty in Pink}}'', with genders switched and the ending changed. ''Some Kind of Wonderful'' had a surprisingly good (but hard-to-find) young-adult {{novelization}} that [[AllThereInTheManual really fleshed out the characters]].
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!Contains examples of:
* TheAllegedCar: Watts' Mini. Keith is humiliated when he borrows it to give Amanda a ride home, and it won't start.
* AllThereInTheManual: According to the first draft of the script and the young-adult novelization, Watts's first name is Susan. Also, her parents are both dead and she lives with two neglectful older brothers.
** One annoying plot hole is also filled in by the novelization: In the movie, we have no idea why Keith is waiting at a club in the hopes that Amanda will show up. In the book, it's explained that she told him she was a big fan of the band who was playing.
* AlphaBitch: Subverted with Amanda; she is rich and popular, and Watts tries to stop Keith from dating her because she ''thinks'' Amanda is the AlphaBitch, but she's actually a very nice girl.
** In reality, I'd say the Alpha Bitch of the piece is more likely Shayne - Amanda's apparent best friend who tunes out to be rather fair-weather. Amanda is more of a hanger-on with the popular set rather than an incumbent.
* AnnoyingYoungerSibling: Keith's sister, Laura.
* {{Bifauxnen}}: Watts in the last act.
* BadassBoast: Duncan, Keith's skinhead delinquent friend, to JerkJock Hardy:
-->'''Duncan:''' I'm here to kick your ass, and you know it, and everybody here knows it, and above all, you ''deserve'' it. In fact, I think it's safe to say that this party is about to become a historical fact.
* BitchInSheepsClothing: Amanda is set up to be this, Hardy is this.
* BoyishShortHair: Watts.
* DawsonCasting: Stoltz and Thompson played teenagers at the age of 26 (Masterson was 20).
* DeadpanSnarker: Watts.
* FingerlessGloves: Watts wears them.
* IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer: As Watts tells Amanda, "You break his heart, I break your face."
* InterClassRomance: Keith and Amanda.
* IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: Amanda telling Keith to go to Watts.
* {{Jerkass}}: Hardy Jenns ("With two 'N's!"). He's, like... the perfect asshole.
* JerkJock: Amanda's boyfriend, Hardy. See ManipulativeBastard for how he gets away with it.
* JustFriends: Keith and Watts, for most of the movie.
* TheLadette: Watts.
* LastMinuteHookup: Watts and Keith.
* LoveEpiphany: Keith, at the end.
* ManipulativeBastard: Hardy. He easily projects an affable persona, manages to turn people's insecurities back on them with ease, and even manages to con people who should know better.
* MasculineGirlFeminineBoy: Watts and Keith. She is a tomboyish drummer, he's a shy and sensitive artist.
* MistakenForGay: Watts. At the beginning, a guy tells to her that she has "a little bit too much up front to be a guy" so she has to be a lesbian.
* ObliviousToLove: Keith doesn't realise Watts's feelings for him, and his for her, till right at the end.
* OhCrap: Hardy gets a massive one at the end when Duncan, Keith's new biker/skinhead friend, show up at his party with a bunch of his fellow delinquents. Of course, the OhCrap moment, and preventing Hardy from throwing Keith a beating, was the entire point of showing up to Hardy's party in the first place.
-->'''Duncan:''' (to Keith, as Keith is leaving with Amanda) "We're gonna bring this party up to a nice respectable level. Don't worry, we're not gonna hurt anyone. We're not even gonna touch 'em. We're just gonna make 'em cry a little... just by lookin' at 'em."
* OneOfTheBoys: Watts.
* OperationJealousy: Watts tries this on Keith at one point.
* PracticeKiss: Keith is convinced by Watts that he should kiss her for practice before he goes out with Amanda.
* SameStoryDifferentNames: ''Some Kind of Wonderful'' and ''Pretty in Pink''.
* SheCleansUpNicely: Averted; Watts doesn't change her tomboyish style, and still gets the guy.
* ThisExplainsSoMuch:
-->'''Ray:''' If you wanted to, you could be a girl...like that!
-->'''Watts:''' Ray, this is 1987. Did you know that a girl can be whatever she wants to be?
-->'''Ray:''' I know, my mom's a plumber.
-->'''Watts:''' That explains a lot about you, Ray.
* ThemeNaming: Keith and Watts are both named after members of the Rolling Stones, and "Miss Amanda Jones" was the title of one of their songs.
* TitledAfterTheSong
* TomboyAndGirlyGirl: Watts and Amanda.
* TomboyishName: Watts [[LastNameBasis uses her last name]].
* TriangRelations
* VictoriousChildhoodFriend
* WholesomeCrossdresser: Watts, sorta. She usually only wears t-shirts or tank tops, loose jeans or shorts. She even gets teased by other girls for wearing boxers. At the end of the movie, she wears a very fancy chauffeur's suit.
* YouNeverAsked: Watts tells this to Keith.
* YouWatchTooMuchX: Inverted during the "kissing practice" scene:
-->'''Watts:''' She'll probably do ''this''. ''(puts her arms around Keith's shoulders)''\\
'''Keith:''' How do you know all this?\\
'''Watts:''' ''(getting annoyed)'' ... I watch a lot of TV.
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-->--'''{{Roger Ebert}}'s''' [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19870227/REVIEWS/702270305/1023 review]]
''Some Kind of Wonderful'' is an 1987 teen film, written by JohnHughes. Though it was directed by Howard Deutch, it's viewed as a Hughes film.
The protagonist, Keith (Eric Stoltz) is a working-class student, who's in love with popular, rich girl Amanda Jones (Lea Thompson). Meanwhile, his tomboyish best friend, Watts (Mary Stuart Masterson) is in love with him, but Keith doesn't notice that. Keith eventually asks Amanda out, right after she broke up with her jerk of a boyfriend, so, mainly out of spite, she says yes. Watts's jealousy causes conflict between her and Keith, but they reconcile, and Watts chauffeurs Keith to his date. At first, Keith and Amanda hit it off, but Keith realizes that he loves Watts. Amanda tells him to go to her, and they get together.
The film is similar to Hughes and Deutch's previous collaboration ''Film/{{Pretty in Pink}}'', with genders switched and the ending changed. ''Some Kind of Wonderful'' had a surprisingly good (but hard-to-find) young-adult {{novelization}} that [[AllThereInTheManual really fleshed out the characters]].
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!Contains examples of:
* TheAllegedCar: Watts' Mini. Keith is humiliated when he borrows it to give Amanda a ride home, and it won't start.
* AllThereInTheManual: According to the first draft of the script and the young-adult novelization, Watts's first name is Susan. Also, her parents are both dead and she lives with two neglectful older brothers.
** One annoying plot hole is also filled in by the novelization: In the movie, we have no idea why Keith is waiting at a club in the hopes that Amanda will show up. In the book, it's explained that she told him she was a big fan of the band who was playing.
* AlphaBitch: Subverted with Amanda; she is rich and popular, and Watts tries to stop Keith from dating her because she ''thinks'' Amanda is the AlphaBitch, but she's actually a very nice girl.
** In reality, I'd say the Alpha Bitch of the piece is more likely Shayne - Amanda's apparent best friend who tunes out to be rather fair-weather. Amanda is more of a hanger-on with the popular set rather than an incumbent.
* AnnoyingYoungerSibling: Keith's sister, Laura.
* {{Bifauxnen}}: Watts in the last act.
* BadassBoast: Duncan, Keith's skinhead delinquent friend, to JerkJock Hardy:
-->'''Duncan:''' I'm here to kick your ass, and you know it, and everybody here knows it, and above all, you ''deserve'' it. In fact, I think it's safe to say that this party is about to become a historical fact.
* BitchInSheepsClothing: Amanda is set up to be this, Hardy is this.
* BoyishShortHair: Watts.
* DawsonCasting: Stoltz and Thompson played teenagers at the age of 26 (Masterson was 20).
* DeadpanSnarker: Watts.
* FingerlessGloves: Watts wears them.
* IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer: As Watts tells Amanda, "You break his heart, I break your face."
* InterClassRomance: Keith and Amanda.
* IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: Amanda telling Keith to go to Watts.
* {{Jerkass}}: Hardy Jenns ("With two 'N's!"). He's, like... the perfect asshole.
* JerkJock: Amanda's boyfriend, Hardy. See ManipulativeBastard for how he gets away with it.
* JustFriends: Keith and Watts, for most of the movie.
* TheLadette: Watts.
* LastMinuteHookup: Watts and Keith.
* LoveEpiphany: Keith, at the end.
* ManipulativeBastard: Hardy. He easily projects an affable persona, manages to turn people's insecurities back on them with ease, and even manages to con people who should know better.
* MasculineGirlFeminineBoy: Watts and Keith. She is a tomboyish drummer, he's a shy and sensitive artist.
* MistakenForGay: Watts. At the beginning, a guy tells to her that she has "a little bit too much up front to be a guy" so she has to be a lesbian.
* ObliviousToLove: Keith doesn't realise Watts's feelings for him, and his for her, till right at the end.
* OhCrap: Hardy gets a massive one at the end when Duncan, Keith's new biker/skinhead friend, show up at his party with a bunch of his fellow delinquents. Of course, the OhCrap moment, and preventing Hardy from throwing Keith a beating, was the entire point of showing up to Hardy's party in the first place.
-->'''Duncan:''' (to Keith, as Keith is leaving with Amanda) "We're gonna bring this party up to a nice respectable level. Don't worry, we're not gonna hurt anyone. We're not even gonna touch 'em. We're just gonna make 'em cry a little... just by lookin' at 'em."
* OneOfTheBoys: Watts.
* OperationJealousy: Watts tries this on Keith at one point.
* PracticeKiss: Keith is convinced by Watts that he should kiss her for practice before he goes out with Amanda.
* SameStoryDifferentNames: ''Some Kind of Wonderful'' and ''Pretty in Pink''.
* SheCleansUpNicely: Averted; Watts doesn't change her tomboyish style, and still gets the guy.
* ThisExplainsSoMuch:
-->'''Ray:''' If you wanted to, you could be a girl...like that!
-->'''Watts:''' Ray, this is 1987. Did you know that a girl can be whatever she wants to be?
-->'''Ray:''' I know, my mom's a plumber.
-->'''Watts:''' That explains a lot about you, Ray.
* ThemeNaming: Keith and Watts are both named after members of the Rolling Stones, and "Miss Amanda Jones" was the title of one of their songs.
* TitledAfterTheSong
* TomboyAndGirlyGirl: Watts and Amanda.
* TomboyishName: Watts [[LastNameBasis uses her last name]].
* TriangRelations
* VictoriousChildhoodFriend
* WholesomeCrossdresser: Watts, sorta. She usually only wears t-shirts or tank tops, loose jeans or shorts. She even gets teased by other girls for wearing boxers. At the end of the movie, she wears a very fancy chauffeur's suit.
* YouNeverAsked: Watts tells this to Keith.
* YouWatchTooMuchX: Inverted during the "kissing practice" scene:
-->'''Watts:''' She'll probably do ''this''. ''(puts her arms around Keith's shoulders)''\\
'''Keith:''' How do you know all this?\\
'''Watts:''' ''(getting annoyed)'' ... I watch a lot of TV.
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