History Film / Reds

24th Sep '17 5:27:41 PM jamespolk
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified: The movie does explain very well why many radicals, initially, looked at the Russian Revolution positively. Louise Bryant pointed out that in the Soviet Union, women would be given voting rights which would not yet be a reality in America until 1920[[note]] Conveniently glossing over the fact that every "election" in the Soviet Union was a farce to legitimize whatever those in power (Lenin at the time) felt like doing, with people "voting" for whatever/whoever the Party told them to ''or else'', so take that for what it's worth[[/note]]. Likewise, Lenin kept his promise to bring Russia out of UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne when she noted that President Wilson promised that America would not enter that war.

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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified: The movie does explain very well why many radicals, initially, looked at the Russian Revolution positively. Louise Bryant pointed out that in the Soviet Union, women would be given voting rights which would not yet be a reality in America until 1920[[note]] Conveniently glossing over the fact that every "election" in the Soviet Union was a farce to legitimize whatever those in power (Lenin at the time) felt like doing, with people "voting" for whatever/whoever the Party told them to ''or else'', so take that for what it's worth[[/note]]. 1920. Likewise, Lenin kept his promise to bring Russia out of UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI when she noted that President Wilson promised that America would not enter that war.
8th May '17 8:45:25 PM Fireblood
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* CallForward: Louise tells John that the feds are organizing a "bureau of investigation" to hunt out leftists. This, of course, is the FBI.

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* CallForward: Louise tells John that the feds are organizing a "bureau of investigation" to hunt out leftists. This, of course, is would become the FBI.
28th Jan '17 11:19:43 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* CaliforniaDoubling: The film was mainly shot in England, where none of it takes place. As a result of Beatty being denied permission to film in the U.S.S.R., the Russia scenes were shot in Finland, with Helsinki doubling for Petrograd (present-day St. Petersburg, Leningrad at the time of filming). The scenes set in Baku, Azerbaijan were shot in Spain.
22nd Oct '16 12:18:31 PM jamespolk
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* CallBack: Early in his career, Reed does a RageQuit, crying out "You don't rewrite what I wrote!" when his editor revises an article Reed wrote about the IWW. Near the end of the movie, Reed says the exact same thing when Zinoviev revises a speech Reed gave in Baku.


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* IncurableCoughOfDeath: Reed starts looking tired and sweaty towards the end, but when he starts coughing, you know he's a goner.
22nd Oct '16 6:20:30 AM jamespolk
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* ConversationCut: John and Louise are exchanging presents at Christmas. He opens a box to reveal a dog. She laughs and says "Oh God, I swear--", cut to Emma Goldman at a socialist rally saying "--that we love America."
22nd Oct '16 6:15:54 AM jamespolk
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''Reds'' is a 1981 American epic film that was co-written, produced, directed by and starred Creator/WarrenBeatty. It centers on the life and career of John Reed, the revolutionary communist, journalist, and writer who chronicled the [[RedOctober Russian Revolution]] in his book ''Ten Days that Shook the World''. Beatty stars in the lead role alongside Diane Keaton, who plays Reed's wife Louise Bryant, and JackNicholson as Creator/EugeneONeill. Creator/StephenSondheim composed music for the film.

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''Reds'' is a 1981 American epic film that was co-written, produced, directed by and starred Creator/WarrenBeatty. It centers on the life and career of John Reed, the revolutionary communist, journalist, and writer who chronicled the [[RedOctober Russian Revolution]] in his book ''Ten Days that Shook the World''. Beatty stars in the lead role alongside Diane Keaton, who plays Reed's wife Louise Bryant, and JackNicholson Creator/JackNicholson as Creator/EugeneONeill. Creator/StephenSondheim composed music for the film.



* AbsenceMakesTheHeartGoYonder: The real reason for Louise taking up with Eugene, her EthicalSlut free love talk notwithstanding. She has her affair with O'Neill while Reed is away covering the 1916 Democratic convention. She approaches O'Neill again after Reed goes to Russia only for him to reject her.



* RedOctober: The initial Bolshevik overthrow of the Kerensky government is portrayed very positively, complete with a soaring chorus singing "The Internationale" in Russian. Louise contrasts the Bolsheviks fulfilling their promise to get Russia out of the war with UsefulNotes/WoodrowWilson[='s=] broken campaign promise to keep the U.S. out of the war. Once the Bolsheviks are in power, however, it gets slightly complicated in that Reed is critical of the Soviet bureaucracy rewriting his speeches, replacing his high-minded ideals with political expediency. Despite this he defends the events and actions to Emma Goldman noting that they have an incredible task and responsibility.


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* TitleDrop: Pete says that the members of the IWW are a bunch of "reds". Later when Reed and some of his fellow commies are sitting in a jail cell, a rather crusty fellow prisoner says "You're a bunch of reds, aren't you?"
22nd Oct '16 6:10:02 AM jamespolk
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* DaEditor: Creator/GeneHackman has a small part as Pete, Da Editor, who clashes with Reed. Pete doesn't like his sympathy with the overtly communist IWW.

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* DaEditor: CallForward: Louise tells John that the feds are organizing a "bureau of investigation" to hunt out leftists. This, of course, is the FBI.
* TheCameo: George Plimpton is in a couple of scenes as a publisher who wants sex with Louise.
Creator/GeneHackman has a small part two scenes as Pete, Da Editor, who Pete Van Wherry, one of Reed's magazine editors.
* DaEditor: Pete Van Wherry
clashes with Reed. Pete doesn't like his sympathy with the overtly communist IWW.IWW.
* ADogNamedDog: Reed and Bryant do in fact have a dog named "Dog", and Louise says they have to come up with a real name. A later scene reveals that they eventually named the dog Jessie.



* {{Intermission}}: Once considered necessary for films that topped three hours.

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* {{Intermission}}: Once considered necessary for films that topped three hours. In fact, this was one of the last Hollywood films to have an intermission.



* RealPersonCameo: Sort of. Oleg Kerensky plays his own grandfather, Alexander Kerensky, briefly the leader of democratic Russia in 1917.

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* RealPersonCameo: Sort of. Oleg Kerensky plays is very briefly seen playing his own grandfather, Alexander Kerensky, briefly the leader for a few months of democratic Russia in 1917.



* TranslationWithAnAgenda: In order to better motivate a crowd of Muslims, Zinoviev uses this trope to replace Reed's call to class war with a call to jihad.

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* StateSec: The government spooks that follow Louise Bryant around. Eventually they descend upon the house with a warrant for Reed's arrest for subversion, only to find that he has already left for Russia.
* TranslationWithAnAgenda: In order to better motivate a crowd of Muslims, Zinoviev uses this trope to replace Reed's call to class war with a call to jihad.jihad.
* WeAreStrugglingTogether: The eternal problem of the left. In one scene Reed and his allies are kicked out of a Socialist Party convention. They assemble in the basement of the convention hall to proclaim a Communist Party for America, only to be confronted by Louis Farina (Paul Sorvino) who has proclaimed an entirely different splinter Communist Party and demands Reed's allegiance. Reed goes to Russia to get his Communist Party declared the official one for the USA, only for the GenreSavvy Bolsheviks to tell him that his party and Farina's party have to merge.
21st Oct '16 5:16:25 AM jamespolk
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* MoodWhiplash: On a train headed to Russia, Reed and Bryant are entertained by an old revolutionary who's endlessly cracking jokes. Then they stop at a border crossing, and they see horribly maimed Russian soldiers.
20th Oct '16 4:41:12 PM jamespolk
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* DaEditor: Creator/GeneHackman has a small part as Da Editor, who clashes with Reed. Reed's editor doesn't like his sympathy with the overtly communist IWW.

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* DaEditor: Creator/GeneHackman has a small part as Pete, Da Editor, who clashes with Reed. Reed's editor Pete doesn't like his sympathy with the overtly communist IWW.
20th Oct '16 3:52:21 PM jamespolk
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* DaEditor: Creator/GeneHackman has a small part as Da Editor, who clashes with Reed. Reed's editor doesn't like his sympathy with the overtly communist IWW.
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