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* BewareTheNiceOnes: Toby is generally the more rational of the brothers, but when some punk decides to antagonize [[BloodKnight Tanner]] for some reason. Toby viciously beats the kid, much to Tanner's surprise and delight. Though he was [[CruelToBeKind probably doing the kid a favor, as Tanner would have just shot him and been done with it.]]
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: Toby is generally the more rational of the brothers, but when some punk decides to antagonize [[BloodKnight Tanner]] for some reason. reason, Toby viciously beats the kid, much to Tanner's surprise and delight. Though he was [[CruelToBeKind probably doing the kid a favor, as Tanner would have just shot him and been done with it.]] ]]
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* AffablyEvil: Toby is a polite, well meaning man who just wants to provide a better life for his sons. He's also the mastermind of the robberies that sets the film's events into motion. Tanner is a more downplayed example, as he can be a jerk and a pain in the ass. But he doesn't go out of his way to hurt people...usually.
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: Toby is generally the more rational of the brothers, but when some punk decides to antagonize [[BloodKnight Tanner]] for some reason. Toby viciously beats the kid, much to Tanner's surprise and delight. Though he was [[CruelToBeKind probably doing the kid a favor, as Tanner would have just shot him and been done with it.]]
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Tanner is a wild, mercurial man with a vicious streak a mile wide, but he sincerely loves his brother and his two nephews and uses his ''attributes'' in order to help them in any way.
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* TooDumbToLive: The local punk who antagonizes Tanner. Toby decides to beat the living crap out of him before Tanner has the chance to shoot him and be done with it.
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* NativeAmericanCasino: The brothers launder their money at an Indian casino in Oklahoma.
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* TheRez: The brothers launder their money at an Indian casino in Oklahoma. There are some political overtones, but that's in keeping with the rest of the film.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: When picking up a car for their final heist, Toby remarks that it's good enough for their purposes but wouldn't win any races. The robbery goes wrong and they find themselves pursued first by a posse of angry citizens, then by law enforcement.
* HonestJohnsDealership: To acquire getaway vehicles for the robberies, the brothers have an agreement with a used car dealer. They pay him cash under the table for cars (which they bury on their property after using); the dealer then reports the cars stolen and collects the insurance money.
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** Texas Midlands bank, whose predatory lending practices led directly to the bank robberies. [[spoiler:The $40,000 that was stolen from them was presumably ensured, and they end up running the trust for Toby's oil money that will end up earning them much more]].
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** Texas Midlands bank, whose predatory lending practices led directly to the bank robberies. [[spoiler:The $40,000 that was stolen from them was presumably ensured, insured, and they end up running the trust for Toby's oil money that will end up earning them much more]].
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* ArmorPiercingResponse: When Marcus confronts Toby at the end of the movie and asks about his motives, Toby asks if Marcus has a family and reiterates that everything he did was to ensure a better life for his sons. Marcus points out that Alberto ''also'' had a family, a family that now has no husband, father, or breadwinner because of what Toby and Tanner did.
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A Berserk button is a minor trigger to a major reaction, which the killing of Alberto wasn’t.
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* BerserkButton: Hamilton's pretty jovial and wise-cracking [[spoiler: until Alberto gets shot in the head by Tanner in the final firefight. Cue RoaringRampageOfRevenge with the help of one of the locals.]]
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* SuspiciousSkiMask: [[SiblingsInCrime Toby and Tanner Howard]] wear these during their bank robberies. The movie portrays their criminality as a case of GreyAndGrayMorality since they target the bank branches operated by the very bank that put them into debt through a reverse mortgage to cover their mother's medical bills. [[{{Irony}} They intend to pay the bank back with the money they rob from them.]]
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* WorldWearyWaitress: The waitress at the diner definitely qualifies. Her interaction with the two Texas Rangers investigating local robberies who stop at her diner makes it clear she's seen it all and is in no mood for any bullshit.
-->'''Waitress''': What don't you want?
-->'''Marcus''': Pardon?
-->'''Waitress''': I've been working here forty-four years. Ain't nobody ever ordered nothing but t-bone steak and a baked potato. Except this one asshole from New York tried to order trout back in 1987. We don't serve no goddamn trout. So either you don't want corn-on-the-cob, or you don't want green beans. So what don't you want?
-->'''Marcus''': (After the waitress has taken their order) Well, tell you one thing. No one's gonna rob ''this'' son-of-a-bitch.
-->'''Waitress''': What don't you want?
-->'''Marcus''': Pardon?
-->'''Waitress''': I've been working here forty-four years. Ain't nobody ever ordered nothing but t-bone steak and a baked potato. Except this one asshole from New York tried to order trout back in 1987. We don't serve no goddamn trout. So either you don't want corn-on-the-cob, or you don't want green beans. So what don't you want?
-->'''Marcus''': (After the waitress has taken their order) Well, tell you one thing. No one's gonna rob ''this'' son-of-a-bitch.
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* ArtisticLicenseMedicine'': Toby is shot during their last bank heist. Tanner says he'll heal because the bullet went straight through, and Tanner is shown walking around perfectly fine at the end of the film. In reality, the placement of the entrance and exit wound means the bullet would have most likely perforated both his large and small intestine, with considerable bleeding and infection from intestinal contents leaking into his abdomen. Surgery would have been necessary as he would have died without it.
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* ArtisticLicenseMedicine'': ArtisticLicenseMedicine: Toby is shot during their last bank heist. Tanner says he'll heal because the bullet went straight through, and Tanner is shown walking around perfectly fine at the end of the film. In reality, the placement of the entrance and exit wound means the bullet would have most likely perforated both his large and small intestine, with considerable bleeding and infection from intestinal contents leaking into his abdomen. Surgery would have been necessary as he would have died without it.
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* ArtisticLicenseMedicine'': Toby is shot during their last bank heist. Tanner says he'll heal because the bullet went straight through, and Tanner is shown walking around perfectly fine at the end of the film. In reality, the placement of the entrance and exit wound means the bullet would have most likely perforated both his large and small intestine, with considerable bleeding and infection from intestinal contents leaking into his abdomen. Surgery would have been necessary as he would have died without it.
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* GreyAndGrayMorality: While the brothers use violent means, their ultimate goals are understandable, even noble in their own way. Opposing them are two lawmen who likewise are not bad people but who's profession puts them in the brother's way. By the time the ending comes around, neither side feels like a hero or a villain.
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Up To Eleven is being dewicked.
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* CrazyEnoughToWork: The plan involves robbing all branches of a local Texan bank, launder the money using Indian casino and then... use the now-clean money to pay a mortgage held by the very same bank. [[spoiler: And [[UpToEleven start a money trust in it]] for Toby's sons once the oil company starts their operation]].
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* CrazyEnoughToWork: The plan involves robbing all branches of a local Texan bank, launder the money using Indian casino and then... use the now-clean money to pay a mortgage held by the very same bank. [[spoiler: And [[UpToEleven start a money trust in it]] it for Toby's sons once the oil company starts their operation]].
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''Hell or High Water'' is a 2016 crime drama directed by Creator/DavidMackenzie and written by Taylor Sheridan, starring Creator/JeffBridges, Creator/ChrisPine and Creator/BenFoster.
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''Hell or High Water'' is a 2016 crime drama directed by Creator/DavidMackenzie and written by Taylor Sheridan, Creator/TaylorSheridan, starring Creator/JeffBridges, Creator/ChrisPine and Creator/BenFoster.
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* [[spoiler:FelonyMurder: Tanner is the only one who ever physically harmed anyone, and was ultimately killed in the process. Nonetheless, Hamilton makes clear that the law would hold Toby responsible for planning the robberies. If the law didn't get him, he implies that he's prepared to hold Toby responsible himself.]]
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* [[spoiler:FelonyMurder: FallGuy: It's unintentional, but the authorities believe that a former cellmate of Tanner's is the second bank robber after [[spoiler: Tanner is killed and Toby is officially cleared by the investigation.]]
* FelonyMurder: [[spoiler: Tanner]] is the only one who ever physically harmed anyone, and was ultimately killed in the process. [[spoiler: Nonetheless, Hamilton makes clear that the law would hold Toby responsible for planning the robberies. If the law didn't get him, he implies that he's prepared to hold Toby responsible himself.]]
* FelonyMurder: [[spoiler: Tanner]] is the only one who ever physically harmed anyone, and was ultimately killed in the process. [[spoiler: Nonetheless, Hamilton makes clear that the law would hold Toby responsible for planning the robberies. If the law didn't get him, he implies that he's prepared to hold Toby responsible himself.]]
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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler:Played with. Toby robbed multiple banks, getting several people killed in the process, and escaped punishment in the end, successfully getting the money he was after. But one of the people who died was his brother, he was non-fatally shot, and it's clear that he'll be haunted forever by the blood that was spilled.]]
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* KarmaHoudini: JustLikeRobinHood: Downplayed; Tanner and Toby are robbing an oppressive institution, but their plan is to use the money for their own ends rather than distribute it to the needy. However, Toby does give a ''very'' generous tip to a struggling waitress. [[spoiler: This ends up saving him later when she declines to identify him to law enforcement.]]
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** [[spoiler:Played with. Toby robbed multiple banks, getting several people killed in the process, and escaped punishment in the end, successfully getting the money he was after. But one of the people who died was his brother, he was non-fatally shot, and it's clear that he'll be haunted forever by the blood that was spilled.]]]]
** Texas Midlands bank, whose predatory lending practices led directly to the bank robberies. [[spoiler:The $40,000 that was stolen from them was presumably ensured, and they end up running the trust for Toby's oil money that will end up earning them much more]].
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** [[spoiler:Played with. Toby robbed multiple banks, getting several people killed in the process, and escaped punishment in the end, successfully getting the money he was after. But one of the people who died was his brother, he was non-fatally shot, and it's clear that he'll be haunted forever by the blood that was spilled.
** Texas Midlands bank, whose predatory lending practices led directly to the bank robberies. [[spoiler:The $40,000 that was stolen from them was presumably ensured, and they end up running the trust for Toby's oil money that will end up earning them much more]].
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* SeverelySpecializedStore: The diner where the waitress serves only one meal: T-bone steak and a side, with iced tea.
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* SeverelySpecializedStore: The diner where the waitress serves only one meal: T-bone steak (medium rare) and a side, with iced tea.
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* BadassMustache: Marcus (who also has a beard) and the old man who shoots at them after the first robbery are both mustached.
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* NotSoDifferent: During one of their stake-outs, Alberto confides to Marcus that he finds some irony in how two white people have lost their land just like Alberto's ancestors did, but now there's no conquering army.
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* NotSoDifferent: NotSoDifferentRemark: During one of their stake-outs, Alberto confides to Marcus that he finds some irony in how two white people have lost their land just like Alberto's ancestors did, but now there's no conquering army.
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* RealityEnsues: Turns out sticking up banks in rural Texas evokes a rather... ''adamant'' reaction from the locals. Twice the brothers cross paths with armed customers, [[spoiler:the second time with lethal results]], and a number of locals join in the chase during the climax. [[spoiler:One of them even helps Marcus kill Tanner.]]
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Sticking up banks in rural Texas evokes a rather... ''adamant'' reaction from the locals. Twice the brothers cross paths with armed customers, [[spoiler:the second time with lethal results]], and a number of locals join in the chase during the climax. [[spoiler:One of them even helps Marcus kill Tanner.]]
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* ShownTheirWork: Toby gives his underage son a beer. The son doesn't drink, possibly due to censors, but in several states, including the film's setting of Texas, it is legally permissible for a parent/guardian to let their child(ren) have alcohol on private property. Likewise, in some states, a parent/guardian can order an alcoholic beverage at a restaurant and allow their child(ren) to drink it.
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* TheCon: The woman in the casino trying to seduce Toby might or might not be running a HoneyTrap to dig into his large stack of chips. At least Tanner was dead-sure she's pulling a quick one on his brother.
* ConcealmentEqualsCover: [[spoiler: You see a pink mist showing Toby getting shot by one of the armed citizens as he jumps into the bed of the truck. Then as soon as he’s below the sides of the bed he’s perfectly safe from the hail of bullets. Tanner is as well inside the cab as he ducks below the dash. Then when Tanner opens fire on the pursuers with his assault rifle all of them are perfectly safe behind their vehicles. The most egregious example is a guy who manages to get right behind his truck door just as it gets hit and leaves a bullet hole. Even from the distance where Tanner was shooting a car door would’ve been about as effective as a rose bush against an assault rifle.]]
* ConcealmentEqualsCover: [[spoiler: You see a pink mist showing Toby getting shot by one of the armed citizens as he jumps into the bed of the truck. Then as soon as he’s below the sides of the bed he’s perfectly safe from the hail of bullets. Tanner is as well inside the cab as he ducks below the dash. Then when Tanner opens fire on the pursuers with his assault rifle all of them are perfectly safe behind their vehicles. The most egregious example is a guy who manages to get right behind his truck door just as it gets hit and leaves a bullet hole. Even from the distance where Tanner was shooting a car door would’ve been about as effective as a rose bush against an assault rifle.]]
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* ConMan: The woman in the casino trying to seduce Toby might or might not be running a HoneyTrap to dig into his large stack of chips. At least Tanner was dead-sure she's pulling a quick one on his brother.
* ConcealmentEqualsCover: [[spoiler: You see a pink mist showing Toby getting shot by one of the armed citizens as he jumps into the bed of the truck. Then as soon as he’s below the sides of the bed he’s perfectly safe from the hail of bullets. Tanner is as well inside the cab as he ducks below the dash. Then when Tanner opens fire on the pursuers with his assault rifle all of them are perfectly safe behind their vehicles. The most egregious example is a guy who manages to get right behind his truck door just as it gets hit and leaves a bullet hole. Even from the distance where Tanner was shooting a car door would’ve been about as effective as a rose bush against an assault rifle.]]
* ConcealmentEqualsCover: [[spoiler: You see a pink mist showing Toby getting shot by one of the armed citizens as he jumps into the bed of the truck. Then as soon as he’s below the sides of the bed he’s perfectly safe from the hail of bullets. Tanner is as well inside the cab as he ducks below the dash. Then when Tanner opens fire on the pursuers with his assault rifle all of them are perfectly safe behind their vehicles. The most egregious example is a guy who manages to get right behind his truck door just as it gets hit and leaves a bullet hole. Even from the distance where Tanner was shooting a car door would’ve been about as effective as a rose bush against an assault rifle.]]
