History Film / HarryPotter

23rd Sep '16 10:47:31 PM nombretomado
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-->"'''CinemaSins Narrator:''' Voldemort offers an Empire, but Harry strikes back."

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-->"'''CinemaSins -->"'''WebVideo/CinemaSins Narrator:''' Voldemort offers an Empire, but Harry strikes back."
9th Sep '16 8:51:44 AM SunriseWarrior
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** Ginny in Film 8. Before Molly takes over in the book, Bellatrix is seen duelling [[DesignatedGirlFight Ginny, Luna, and Hermione at the same time.]] In the films, Ron and Hermione are busy with the snake and Luna is otherwise indisposed. Thus Ginny is trying to hold off Voldemort's second-in-command ''alone''. ''Maybe'' her dad, who was in the background, was helping her (which would count as this trope as well), but George seemed to have his back turned, only turning around when he hears the noise from Ginny nearly getting fried.

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** Ginny in Film 8.the eighth film. Before Molly takes over in the book, Bellatrix is seen duelling [[DesignatedGirlFight Ginny, Luna, and Hermione at the same time.]] In the films, Ron and Hermione are busy with the snake and Luna is otherwise indisposed. Thus Ginny is trying to hold off Voldemort's second-in-command ''alone''. ''Maybe'' her dad, who was in the background, was helping her (which would count as this trope as well), but George seemed to have his back turned, only turning around when he hears the noise from Ginny nearly getting fried.



** In the sixth film, Malfoys entire year of planning is shown to be pointless at the end of the film. The death eaters merely show up and stand there doing nothing, while in the book it was imperative that the death eaters enter Hogwarts in order to hold off all of the members of the Order of the Phoenix guarding Hogwarts while Draco could finish his job (there would have been an amazing battle scene as a result). In the film the battle doesn't happen and the death eaters just walk out...
** In the sixth film Draco disarms Dumbledore. This is a key moment in the series that is revealed to be [[spoiler:the only part of Dumbledore's master plan that went wrong]], yet Dumbledore just lets himself be disarmed without defending himself. In the book the only reason he was disarmed is because he sacrificed his chance to defend himself to immobilize Harry who was wearing his invisibility cloak. Kind of makes Dumbledore seem like a total idiot...
** In the third movie, after Harry falls off his broom in the Quidditch match. In the book (and the video game), Harry sees a black dog that he believes to be the Grim watching him from some empty seats. In the film, Harry inexplicably instead sees the outlines of the Grim appear in the sky. This would theoretically make sense if the Grim he had been spotting before was really a mystical omen of death and not [[spoiler:the Animagus form of Sirius Black, as we later find out]].
** Averted by J.K. Rowling herself, who stepped in after learning the fifth film would be cutting out the character Kreacher, and warned the crew that adapting book seven would be very problematic if he hadn't appeared before. However, so much of his parts were cut from ''Deathly Hallows Part 1'' and completely cut from ''Part 2'' they might as well have cut him out completely.
** The third movie never mentions who Messrs. Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs are. This caused confusion among some audience members during the fifth movie when Harry wrote a letter to "Padfoot" without mentioning his given name. Plus Pettigrew being referred to exclusively as "Wormtail" in film four. And it's now a mystery how Lupin knows how the map works.

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** In the sixth film, Malfoys Malfoy's entire year of planning is shown to be pointless at the end of the film. The death eaters Death Eaters merely show up and stand there doing nothing, while in the book it was imperative that the death eaters Death Eaters enter Hogwarts in order to hold off all of the members of the Order of the Phoenix guarding Hogwarts while so Draco could finish his job (there would have been an amazing battle scene as a result). In the film film, the battle doesn't happen and the death eaters Death Eaters just walk out...
out.
** In the sixth film film, Draco disarms Dumbledore. This is a key moment in the series that is revealed to be [[spoiler:the only part of Dumbledore's master plan that went wrong]], yet Dumbledore just lets himself be disarmed without defending himself. In the book book, the only reason he was disarmed is because he sacrificed his chance to defend himself to immobilize Harry Harry, who was wearing his invisibility cloak. Kind of makes Dumbledore seem like a total idiot...
idiot.
** In the third movie, film, after Harry falls off his broom in the Quidditch match. In the book (and the video game), Harry sees a black dog that he believes to be the Grim watching him from some empty seats. In the film, Harry inexplicably instead sees the outlines of the Grim appear in the sky. This would theoretically make sense if the Grim he had been spotting before was really a mystical omen of death and not [[spoiler:the Animagus form of Sirius Black, as we later find out]].
** Averted by J.K. Rowling herself, who stepped in after learning the fifth film would be cutting out the character Kreacher, and warned the crew that adapting book seven would be very problematic if he hadn't appeared before. However, so much of his parts were him was cut from ''Deathly Hallows Part 1'' and completely cut from ''Part 2'' that they might as well have cut removed him out completely.
** The third movie never mentions who Messrs. Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs are. This caused confusion among some audience members during the fifth movie when Harry wrote a letter to "Padfoot" without mentioning his given name. Plus Pettigrew being referred to exclusively as "Wormtail" in film four.the fourth film. And it's now a mystery how Lupin knows how the map works.



** The final movie removes Dumbledore's explanation of why [[spoiler:Voldemort's Killing Curse in the forest failed to work on Harry]], leaving [[spoiler:his survival (and why it ''had'' to be Voldemort himself who cast the curse)]] a mystery with no "movie-canon" explanation. While it does explicitly explain why the [[spoiler:Elder Wand wouldn't work properly for Voldemort]] in the film (and [[spoiler:the failure of the Killing Curse]] could be explained simply by that), and {{InfoDump}}ledore also mentions that [[spoiler:Voldemort's SoulFragment]] is now gone, (implying it might have served as PlotArmor), a question mark is still left behind on the completeness of the answer compared with the book's. (Then again YMMV on whether or not adding [[spoiler: "And Voldemort's got your blood in him which means you're still protecting by your mother's sacrifice"]] really adds anything to the explanation: JK Rowling herself stated that [[spoiler: Harry's survival]] has as much to do with personal choice as the mechanics involved.)

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** The final movie removes Dumbledore's explanation of why [[spoiler:Voldemort's Killing Curse in the forest failed to work on Harry]], leaving [[spoiler:his survival (and why it ''had'' to be Voldemort himself who cast the curse)]] a mystery with no "movie-canon" explanation. While it does explicitly explain why the [[spoiler:Elder Wand wouldn't work properly for Voldemort]] in the film (and [[spoiler:the failure of the Killing Curse]] could be explained simply by that), and {{InfoDump}}ledore Dumbledore also mentions that [[spoiler:Voldemort's SoulFragment]] is now gone, gone (implying it might have served as PlotArmor), a question mark is still left behind on the completeness of the answer compared with the book's. (Then again again, YMMV on whether or not adding [[spoiler: "And Voldemort's got your blood in him which means you're still protecting by your mother's sacrifice"]] really adds anything to the explanation: JK Rowling herself stated that [[spoiler: Harry's survival]] has as much to do with personal choice as the mechanics involved.)



** In Book 6, the Prime Minister and the Minister for Magic briefly discuss a terrorist attack by Death Eaters against an unnamed bridge that kills several Muggles. ''Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince'' decides to ShowDontTell the attack, setting it in London's famous Millennium Bridge for added drama and MonumentalDamage... forgetting that the scene is supposed to take place in mid-1997, whereas construction on the real-life Millennium Bridge began in 1998 and it wasn't opened to the public until 2000.
** In ''Deathly Hallows, Part 1'', Dobby tells Ron that it's nice to see him "again", despite the fact that in the continuity of the films Dobby has never met Ron before this moment.

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** In Book 6, the sixth book, the Prime Minister and the Minister for Magic briefly discuss a terrorist attack by Death Eaters against an unnamed bridge that kills several Muggles. ''Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince'' decides to ShowDontTell The film actually shows the attack, setting it in London's famous Millennium Bridge for added drama and MonumentalDamage...Bridge... forgetting that the scene is supposed to take place in mid-1997, whereas construction on the real-life Millennium Bridge began in 1998 and it wasn't opened to the public until 2000.
** In ''Deathly Hallows, Hallows - Part 1'', Dobby tells Ron that it's nice to see him "again", despite the fact that in the continuity of the films films, Dobby has was never met seen meeting Ron before this moment.moment (although it is possible they met off-screen).
9th Sep '16 8:35:53 AM SunriseWarrior
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** ''Order of the Phoenix'' keeps the plot point that no-one believes Harry about Voldemort, since that is part of the AnthropicPrinciple for that ''particular'' book. But, because some points were edited out of ''Goblet of Fire'' and never reinstated, viewers never know ''why'' no-one believes him beyond Fudge's complete denial of the facts and using Sirius as TheScapegoat.
** Speaking of Goblet of Fire, people who have not read the books would think that [[spoiler:Barty Crouch Jr.]] would fit under ChuckCunninghamSyndrome, given his absence from later films. [[spoiler:[[AndIMustScream His soul was sucked out by a Dementor]].]]

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** The ''Order of the Phoenix'' film keeps the plot point that no-one believes Harry about Voldemort, since that is part of the AnthropicPrinciple for that ''particular'' book. Voldemort. But, because some plot points were edited out of the ''Goblet of Fire'' film and never reinstated, viewers never know ''why'' no-one believes him Harry beyond Fudge's complete denial of the facts and using Sirius as TheScapegoat.
** Speaking of Goblet ''Goblet of Fire, Fire'', people who have not read the books would think that [[spoiler:Barty Crouch Jr.]] would fit under ChuckCunninghamSyndrome, given his absence from later films. [[spoiler:[[AndIMustScream His soul was sucked out by a Dementor]].]]



** Dumbledore is set up over the course of parts one and two as being not as kind and fatherly as he appeared. Now, in the book, all of this finally comes together and Dumbledore is revealed to still have been a good man who in the end [[spoiler:essentially arranges Voldemort's downfall]]. But in the movie, most of [[spoiler:his conversation with Harry at King's Cross]] is cut, and the subplot is left dangling. (Conversely, most of the explicit references to Dumbledore's dark side, such as [[spoiler: his brief alliance with Grindelwald]] and [[spoiler: his complicity in the death of his sister]], don't get a mention either, so all that's left are a few vague hints of wrongdoing.)

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** Dumbledore is set up over the course of parts one ''Parts 1'' and two ''2'' as being not as kind and fatherly as he appeared. Now, in the book, all of this finally comes together and Dumbledore is revealed to still have been a good man who in the end [[spoiler:essentially arranges Voldemort's downfall]]. But in the movie, most of [[spoiler:his conversation with Harry at King's Cross]] is cut, and the subplot is left dangling. (Conversely, most of the explicit references to Dumbledore's dark side, such as [[spoiler: his brief alliance with Grindelwald]] and [[spoiler: his complicity in the death of his sister]], don't get a mention either, so all that's left are a few vague hints of wrongdoing.)
9th Sep '16 8:31:18 AM SunriseWarrior
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** Bill Weasley, in book 6 Half-Blood Prince, is scarred to the point of being described as only slightly less mangled looking than Mad-Eye Moody, but in the film only has slight scratches on his face. (Note: In the films, Mad-Eye Moody and Bill Weasley are played respectively by father and son Brendan Gleeson and Domhnall Gleeson, so the comparison comes as propriate.)

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** Bill Weasley, in book 6 Half-Blood Prince, is scarred to the point of being described as only slightly less mangled looking than Mad-Eye Moody, but in the film only has slight scratches on his face. (Note: In the films, Mad-Eye Moody and Bill Weasley are played respectively by father and son Brendan Gleeson and Domhnall Gleeson, so the comparison comes as propriate.appropriate.)
9th Sep '16 8:11:25 AM SunriseWarrior
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** In the books, Severus Snape is a {{Jerkass}}, plain and simple. In the movies, he's still unpleasant, but has a few PetTheDog moments, such as [[spoiler: shielding Harry, Ron and Hermione, the 3 students he ''despises'' from werewolf!Lupin, putting his own life at risk in the process]].

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** In the books, Severus Snape is a {{Jerkass}}, plain and simple. In the movies, he's still unpleasant, but many of his nastier moments are toned down or removed, and he also has a few PetTheDog moments, such as [[spoiler: shielding Harry, Ron and Hermione, the 3 three students he ''despises'' from werewolf!Lupin, werewolf Lupin, putting his own life at risk in the process]].
4th Sep '16 8:38:21 PM omegafire17
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** In particular, Harry is able to hold his own during a protracted duel with Voldemort during the climax of the eighth film. Such a feat would be completely beyond him in the books, where Voldemort held off multiple veteran wizards simultaneously.
*** This is less Harry being a badass, and more of [[CurbstompBattle him barely avoiding death]] when facing Voldemort. He struggles to deflect the spells that Voldemort launches at him, nearly gets choked to death, and only stays alive because his wand keeps firing off the Disarming Charm in response to Voldemort's Killing Curse. [[RuleOfCool Granted, since there's no reason for Priori Incantatem to work at this point...]]

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** In particular, Harry is Harry's able to hold his own during a protracted duel with Voldemort Voldemort, during the climax of the eighth film. Such He ''does'' struggle quite a feat lot, barely deflecting spells and instinctively firing off Priori Incantatem, and nearly got choked to death... but even ''that'' struggle would be completely beyond him in the books, where Voldemort held off multiple veteran wizards simultaneously.
*** This is less Harry being a badass, and more of [[CurbstompBattle him barely avoiding death]] when facing Voldemort. He struggles to deflect the spells that Voldemort launches at him, nearly gets choked to death, and only stays alive because his wand keeps firing off the Disarming Charm in response to Voldemort's Killing Curse. [[RuleOfCool Granted, since there's no reason for Priori Incantatem to work at this point...]]
simultaneously.
30th Aug '16 2:20:51 PM SunriseWarrior
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* ''[[Film/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, parts 1 and 2]]'' (2010, 2011)

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* ''[[Film/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, parts Parts 1 and 2]]'' (2010, 2011)
28th Aug '16 9:10:59 PM KhesterBarbatos
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** Bill Weasley, in book 6 Half-Blood Prince, is scarred to the point of being described as only slightly less mangled looking than Mad-Eye Moody, but in the film only has slight scratches on his face. (Note: In the films, Mad-Eye Moody and Bill Weasley is played respectively by father and son Brendan Gleeson and Domhnall Gleeson, so the comparison comes as propriate.)

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** Bill Weasley, in book 6 Half-Blood Prince, is scarred to the point of being described as only slightly less mangled looking than Mad-Eye Moody, but in the film only has slight scratches on his face. (Note: In the films, Mad-Eye Moody and Bill Weasley is are played respectively by father and son Brendan Gleeson and Domhnall Gleeson, so the comparison comes as propriate.)
17th Aug '16 8:14:23 PM DustSnitch
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* AbandonedCatchphrase: Harry had the habit of saying 'Don't mention it' whenever he helped someone. It wasn't heard again after Chamber of Secrets, when the films took a much darker tone.
12th Aug '16 3:46:39 PM N8han11
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*** In the earlier films, when she's not intended to be pretty, that may be because the books are from Harry's POV and he doesn't actually take much notice of her looks beyond hair and eye color until he sees her [[SheCleansUpNicely gussied up at the Yule Ball]] and notices she is indeed beautiful
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