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--> '''Jordan''' [[DoubleStandard Do you ask the men the same question]]?
--> '''Blondell''' [[SubvertedTrope As a matter of fact, yes, I do ask them]].
--> '''Jordan''' And what do they say?
--> '''Blondell''' Cause I get to blow shit up.
--> '''Jordan''' Well, there you go.
--> '''Blondell''' [[SubvertedTrope As a matter of fact, yes, I do ask them]].
--> '''Jordan''' And what do they say?
--> '''Blondell''' Cause I get to blow shit up.
--> '''Jordan''' Well, there you go.
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--> '''Jordan''' '''Jordan:''' [[DoubleStandard Do you ask the men the same question]]?
question?]]
-->'''Blondell''' '''Blondell:''' [[SubvertedTrope As a matter of fact, yes, I do ask them]].
them.]]
-->'''Jordan''' '''Jordan:''' And what do they say?
-->'''Blondell''' Cause '''Blondell:''' "'Cause I get to blow shit up.
up."
-->'''Jordan''' '''Jordan:''' Well, there you go.
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* SpeakNowOrForeverHoldYourPeace: Subverted. Before deploying the SEAL trainees, the submarine captain takes Urgayle aside and demands BrutalHonesty, saying that if Urgayle has ''any'' reason to believe they're not ready for real combat, he must say so now. Urgayle doesn't even hesitate:
-->'''Urgayle''': We'll be fine, sir.\\
'''Captain''': Excellent.
-->'''Urgayle''': We'll be fine, sir.\\
'''Captain''': Excellent.
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* {{Determinator}}: Jordan endures physical and emotional abuse, sexist discrimination and rigorous physical challenges during her training to join the Navy [=SEAL=]s.
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* {{Determinator}}: Jordan endures physical and emotional abuse, sexist discrimination and rigorous physical challenges during her training to join the Navy [=SEAL=]s.[=SEAL=]s, but refuses to drop out.
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* {{Determinator}}: JordanJordan endures physical and emotional abuse, sexist discrimination and rigorous physical challenges during her training to join the Navy [=SEAL=]s.
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** Averted by C.O. Salem in his opening speech to dispel any romantic notions the applicants might have: not only are they in for the TrainingFromHell, but the only "privilege" enjoyed by those who pass the course and become CRTs is being deployed more often (and to the most dangerous warzones) than any other unit in the U.S. military.
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** Averted by C.O. Salem in his opening speech to dispel any romantic notions the applicants might have: not only are they in for the TrainingFromHell, but the only "privilege" enjoyed by those who pass the course and become CRTs [=CRTs=] is being deployed more often (and to the most dangerous warzones) than any other unit in the U.S. military.
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-->'''Newberry''': O'Neill, tell him something or I will!\\
'''O'Neill''': Don't you tell him ''shit''!
* ElitesAreMoreGlamorous: InUniverse. Senator [=DeHayne=] practically drools at the idea of getting a woman accepted into SEAL CRT training, thinking she'll reap massive political gains even if her protegee flunks out in two weeks.
** Averted by C.O. Salem in his opening speech to dispel any romantic notions the applicants might have: not only are they in for the TrainingFromHell, but the only "privilege" enjoyed by those who pass the course and become CRTs is being deployed more often (and to the most dangerous warzones) than any other unit in the U.S. military.
--->''That is all that is to be said about the "special" nature of the CRT training program.''
'''O'Neill''': Don't you tell him ''shit''!
* ElitesAreMoreGlamorous: InUniverse. Senator [=DeHayne=] practically drools at the idea of getting a woman accepted into SEAL CRT training, thinking she'll reap massive political gains even if her protegee flunks out in two weeks.
** Averted by C.O. Salem in his opening speech to dispel any romantic notions the applicants might have: not only are they in for the TrainingFromHell, but the only "privilege" enjoyed by those who pass the course and become CRTs is being deployed more often (and to the most dangerous warzones) than any other unit in the U.S. military.
--->''That is all that is to be said about the "special" nature of the CRT training program.''
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* DrillSergeantNasty: Command Master Chief John James "Jack" Urgayle is a more sedate, erudite version, but no less nasty. He also personally conducts torture on Jordan for SERE training. He is however one of the few characters that displays no sexism, treating Jordan just like any of the other recruits, and doesn't seem to tolerate it either.
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* DrillSergeantNasty: Command Master Chief John James "Jack" Urgayle is a more sedate, erudite version, but no less nasty. He also personally conducts torture on Jordan for SERE training. He is however one of the few characters that displays no sexism, treating Jordan just like any of the other recruits, and doesn't seem to tolerate it either. He also eases off a bit when she proves herself, same as he would with any of the men.
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: InUniverse. Jordan points out that she and Royce entered the Navy at the same time, but he's far more decorated. He counters that that's just because he "got lucky during the Gulf War," but she says that's the whole point.
-->'''Jordan:''' Operational experience is a key to advancement. Yet anyone with tits can't be on a sub, can't be a SEAL...
-->'''Jordan:''' Operational experience is a key to advancement. Yet anyone with tits can't be on a sub, can't be a SEAL...
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* IAmNotLeonardNimoy: Critics reacted to Jordan's character as if Creator/DemiMoore herself was going through what she did. Even on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki, posts will refer to Jordan as Demi instead.
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* IAmNotLeonardNimoy: Critics reacted to Jordan's character as if Creator/DemiMoore herself was going through what she did. Even on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki, Website/ThisVeryWiki, posts will refer to Jordan as Demi instead.
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* WomanlinessAsPathos: This trope is {{exploited|trope}} by several characters to try and justify their beliefs that a woman is unfit to join and inherently disruptive to a Navy Seal unit. The main character, O'Neil, is put through miserable hazing and bullying, is accused of being a predatory lesbian, and [[DrillSergeantNasty Master Chief Urgayle]] begins to sexually assault her during a training exercise to show what is "likely" to happen to a woman captured by the enemy -- an action that all of the male trainees fiercely object to but do not try to stop. O'Neil fights off Urgayle before things go too far, leaving it ambiguous whether or not he would have ''truly'' gone that far.
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[[caption-width-right:350:''[[Creator/WillSmith Keep]] [[Creator/JadaPinkettSmith my wife's name]] [[Creator/WillSmith out your FUCKING MOVIE!]]'']]
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* BaldOfAwesome: Jordan's shaved head is spotlighted as essential to her training.
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* BaldHeadOfToughness: After realizing she is being treated much more delicately than her male counterparts, Jordan [[ImportantHairCut shaves her head completely]] and demands equal treatment from her peers. Cue a TrainingFromHell that was meant to break her, but only served to make her that much more competent and stronger.
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* BaldWomen: Jordan.
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* WouldntHitAGirl: During the POW training the interrogation instructor doesn't want to harm Jordan, but Urgayle, understanding the necessity, has no such reservations and proceeds to beat her mercilessly.
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* WouldntHitAGirl: During the POW training the interrogation instructor doesn't want to harm Jordan, but Urgayle, understanding the necessity, has no such reservations and proceeds to beat her mercilessly. The other instructor is forced to leave when he raises a stink about it.
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* AllAbusersAreMale: Averted but mentioned. Jordan has a black eye (among other injuries) after her POW training. While at a bar in the bathroom, a fellow female bar patron sees it and says [[AbuseMistake "Not that it's any of my business, but I'd say dump the bastard."]]
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* AllAbusersAreMale: Averted but mentioned. Jordan has a black eye (among other injuries) after her POW training. While at a bar in the bathroom, a fellow female bar patron another woman sees it and says [[AbuseMistake "Not that it's any of my business, but I'd say dump the bastard."]]
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* GenderIsNoObject: The film's [[AnAesop aesop]] is that militaries should be this way. The main character runs into the gender barrier when she joins up for the grueling SEAL training program (even receiving preferential treatment at first that defeats the whole purpose of integration) not simply because she's a woman, but because MenAreTheExpendableGender.
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* GenderIsNoObject: The film's [[AnAesop aesop]] is that militaries should be this way. The main character runs into the gender barrier when she joins up for the grueling SEAL training program (even receiving preferential treatment at first that defeats the whole purpose of integration) not simply because she's a woman, but because MenAreTheExpendableGender. Interestingly, Master Chief Urgayle also cites a real-world limitation of this trope, discovered when the Israelis and Russians both tried to field gender-unified combat units: [[TheDulcineaEffect men seem to have an instinctual urge to protect women]], even when the women in question are fellow soldiers. In the case of the Israelis, this led to a degradation of unit cohesion, as the male soldiers would abandon their mission to rescue wounded female colleagues. (The Russians abandoned the idea of employing female combat soldiers, while the Israelis began using segregated combat units of both all-male or all-female combat soldiers.)
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* IAmNotLeonardNimoy: Critics reacted to Jordan's character as if Creator/DemiMoore herself was going through what she did. Even on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki, posts will refer to Jordan as Demi instead.
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* MetaphoricallyTrue: [[spoiler:Jordan cannot pick up Urgayle by herself, but her heroism inspires her squaddies to help get him to safety. This is enough for Urgayle to give her his Navy Cross, which had been awarded to him "for pulling a 240-pound man out of a burning tank."[[note]]To her credit, she did drag him far enough out of the kill zone for the team to execute their ambush, which is the only reason they got Jordan and Urgayle out alive.[[/note]]]]
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* MetaphoricallyTrue: [[spoiler:Jordan cannot pick up Urgayle by herself, but her heroism inspires her squaddies to help get him to safety. This is enough for Urgayle to give her his Navy Cross, which had been awarded to him "for pulling a 240-pound man out of a burning tank."[[note]]To "]][[note]]To her credit, she did drag him far enough out of the kill zone for the team to execute their ambush, which is the only reason they got Jordan and Urgayle out alive.[[/note]]]][[/note]]
