History Film / Conspiracy

27th May '16 12:12:34 AM Morgenthaler
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* BlondGuysAreEvil: Heydrich is a platinum blond-haired man who personifies the Nazi ideal of the Aryan man; fit, warlike, cruel, [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]], manipulative, and racially arrogant in the extreme.
6th Apr '16 7:15:50 AM GuyIncog
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*** It also says something that Eichmann, who has already been established as ruthless in his own right (see below) and has been simply a polite host to the other attendees, displays absolute deference to Heydrich from the moment he walks in.


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** Kritzinger has another when he refuses to partake in the rumor-mongering about the situation in Moscow, stating bluntly that the German forces are stalled for the winter.
-->'''Kritzinger''': ''It is time to face reality.''
6th Apr '16 12:22:03 AM GuyIncog
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** The conference as a whole: a business luncheon - held at a palatial estate in a fancy Berlin suburb, catered with [[FoodPorn mouth-wateringly depicted]] food and drink - convened by some of the most evil men in history for the purpose of planning mass murder on a horrifically unprecedented scale.
3rd Apr '16 7:45:09 PM LeedsKing
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Starring an EnsembleCast, including Creator/KennethBranagh, Creator/ColinFirth and Stanley Tucci, the film follows SS-Obersturmbannführer (Lieutenant Colonel) Adolf Eichmann as he organizes the meeting itself. Represented are the [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters Security Police (under Heydrich), Criminal Police, Regional Security Chief for the Generalgouvernment, a representative of Hans Frank's Generalgouvernment, Alfred Rosenberg's Ministry for the Occupied Eastern Territories, the Ministry of the Interior, the Ministry of Justice, the Foreign Office, the Party Chancellory, the Reich Chancellory, the SS Race and Settlement Office, and the Luftwaffe's Four Year Plan Organisation]]. All have been recalled to the Berlin suburb of Wannsee from their duty stations for a conference, but very few have heard what the conference is actually meant to cover. After a round of genial introductions and conversation over appetizers, SS-Obergruppenführer (General-equivalent) Reinhard Heydrich, the conference's ranking member, arrives and explains that they are there to discuss what to do with 'The Jews'.

Though the meeting is phrased as a discussion panel for the formulation of policy, Heydrich quickly makes it clear that the policy has already been decided and he is there to inform everybody of their roles: namely, starting in the summer the 'unskilled' Jews currently held in Germany's eastern districts and the Generalgouvernment will be deported to extermination facilities (currently under construction) in the Generalgouvernment staffed by local police forces (under the command of the SS District Chiefs). Those who argue against this policy, either because [[EvenEvilHasStandards they feel the mass execution of all 'unskilled' Jews goes too far]] or [[PragmaticVillainy because they feel the policy has been poorly thought out and will have negative consequences for Germany]], are persuaded or threatened by Heydrich into agreement in a series of private conversations during brief lulls in the meeting. The Generalgouvernment, on the other hand, would like the process sped up so that it will not have to keep shouldering the burden of feeding so many Useless Mouths.

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Starring an EnsembleCast, including Creator/KennethBranagh, Creator/ColinFirth and Stanley Tucci, the film follows SS-Obersturmbannführer (Lieutenant Colonel) Adolf Eichmann as he organizes the meeting itself. Represented are the [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters Security Police (under Heydrich), Criminal Police, Regional Security Chief for the Generalgouvernment, Generalgovernment, a representative of Hans Frank's Generalgouvernment, Generalgovernment, Alfred Rosenberg's Ministry for the Occupied Eastern Territories, the Ministry of the Interior, the Ministry of Justice, the Foreign Office, the Party Chancellory, the Reich Chancellory, the SS Race and Settlement Office, and the Luftwaffe's Four Year Plan Organisation]]. All have been recalled to the Berlin suburb of Wannsee from their duty stations for a conference, but very few have heard what the conference is actually meant to cover. After a round of genial introductions and conversation over appetizers, SS-Obergruppenführer (General-equivalent) Reinhard Heydrich, the conference's ranking member, arrives and explains that they are there to discuss what to do with 'The Jews'.

Though the meeting is phrased as a discussion panel for the formulation of policy, Heydrich quickly makes it clear that the policy has already been decided and he is there to inform everybody of their roles: namely, starting in the summer the 'unskilled' Jews currently held in Germany's eastern districts and the Generalgouvernment Generalgovernment will be deported to extermination facilities (currently under construction) in the Generalgouvernment Generalgovernment staffed by local police forces (under the command of the SS District Chiefs). Those who argue against this policy, either because [[EvenEvilHasStandards they feel the mass execution of all 'unskilled' Jews goes too far]] or [[PragmaticVillainy because they feel the policy has been poorly thought out and will have negative consequences for Germany]], are persuaded or threatened by Heydrich into agreement in a series of private conversations during brief lulls in the meeting. The Generalgouvernment, Generalgovernment, on the other hand, would like the process sped up so that it will not have to keep shouldering the burden of feeding so many Useless Mouths.



* '''Brian Pettifer''' as '''Alfred Meyer''': A bespectacled, shrewish man, Meyer respresents Alfred Rosenberg's Reich Ministry for the occupied Eastern Territories. He does not care what is done about the Jews, as long as it is done ''fast'' due to the challenge of keeping the ghettos pacified and free of disease (which he fears may spread to the ''Volkdeutsch''). He committed suicide in 1945 when it became apparent that Germany was about to lose the war.

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* '''Brian Pettifer''' as '''Alfred Meyer''': A bespectacled, shrewish man, Meyer respresents Alfred Rosenberg's Reich Ministry for the occupied Eastern Territories. He does not care what is done about the Jews, as long as it is done ''fast'' due to the challenge of keeping the ghettos pacified and free of disease (which he fears may spread to the ''Volkdeutsch'').''Volksdeutsch''). He committed suicide in 1945 when it became apparent that Germany was about to lose the war.



* '''Ben Daniels''' as '''Dr. Josef Bühler''': State Secretary of Hans Frank's Generalgouvernement (of Poland). He testified against Hans Frank during the Nürnberg trials and was later extradited to Poland, tried, and hanged in 1948.

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* '''Ben Daniels''' as '''Dr. Josef Bühler''': State Secretary of Hans Frank's Generalgouvernement Generalgovernment (of Poland). He testified against Hans Frank during the Nürnberg trials and was later extradited to Poland, tried, and hanged in 1948.



* '''Pete Sullivan''' as '''Karl Eberhard Schoengarth''': A young, arrogant and careerist SD Officer assigned to the General Goverment of Poland. He was captured by the Allies, charged with the murder of a downed Allied airman and hanged by the British in 1945.

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* '''Pete Sullivan''' as '''Karl Eberhard Schoengarth''': A young, arrogant and careerist SD Officer assigned to the General Goverment Generalgovernment of Poland. He was captured by the Allies, charged with the murder of a downed Allied airman and hanged by the British in 1945.



** Unmentioned is the Generalgouvernement's food shortage. While murder is not necessarily the ''best'' solution for them, they really do need to find some way of reducing the number of mouths they have to feed if they want to avoid rebellion.

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** Unmentioned is the Generalgouvernement's Generalgovernment's food shortage. While murder is not necessarily the ''best'' solution for them, they really do need to find some way of reducing the number of mouths they have to feed if they want to avoid rebellion.
19th Mar '16 6:02:35 PM SoapheadChurch
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* MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate: As well as lawyers there are also several doctors at the conference, and the effects of medical experiments involving euthanasia of mental patients are also mentioned.

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* MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate: As well Several of the attendees have doctorates (in law, as was the custom for government lawyers there are also several doctors at the conference, time), and the effects of medical experiments involving euthanasia of mental patients are also mentioned.
19th Mar '16 5:14:54 PM SoapheadChurch
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* None of the arguments and controversies shown in the film are present in the source material. However, the film takes the position that the historical record was doctored by Eichmann to create the illusion that everyone quickly and easily came to a consensus.
* In-universe, Eichmann is wrong when he says that Wannsee House was owned by a Jew - in fact, it had been owned by Friedrich Minoux, a CorruptCorporateExecutive who sold it to the Heydrich-controlled Nordhav Foundation in 1940 after being jailed for defrauding the Berlin Gasworks. The money to purchase it (ℛℳ145000000 in all) may have come from expropriated Jewish property, however.

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* ** None of the arguments and controversies shown in the film are present in the source material. However, the film takes the position that the historical record was doctored by Eichmann to create the illusion that everyone quickly and easily came to a consensus.
* ** In-universe, Eichmann is wrong when he says that Wannsee House was owned by a Jew - in fact, it had been owned by Friedrich Minoux, a CorruptCorporateExecutive who sold it to the Heydrich-controlled Nordhav Foundation in 1940 after being jailed for defrauding the Berlin Gasworks. The money to purchase it (ℛℳ145000000 in all) may have come from expropriated Jewish property, however.
19th Mar '16 5:07:16 PM SoapheadChurch
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: In-universe, Eichmann is wrong when he says that Wannsee House was owned by a Jew - in fact, it had been owned by Friedrich Minoux, a CorruptCorporateExecutive who sold it to the Heydrich-controlled Nordhav Foundation in 1940 after being jailed for defrauding the Berlin Gasworks. The money to purchase it (ℛℳ145000000 in all) may have come from expropriated Jewish property, however.

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* None of the arguments and controversies shown in the film are present in the source material. However, the film takes the position that the historical record was doctored by Eichmann to create the illusion that everyone quickly and easily came to a consensus.
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In-universe, Eichmann is wrong when he says that Wannsee House was owned by a Jew - in fact, it had been owned by Friedrich Minoux, a CorruptCorporateExecutive who sold it to the Heydrich-controlled Nordhav Foundation in 1940 after being jailed for defrauding the Berlin Gasworks. The money to purchase it (ℛℳ145000000 in all) may have come from expropriated Jewish property, however.
18th Mar '16 6:14:05 PM 04tele
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* MinionWithAnFInEvil: Deconstructed by Heydrich to Kritzinger
-->"Well then, this is the moment to be... practical, until such time as Germany can afford your philosophy, which is what? Hound them, impoverish them, exploit them, imprison them - just do not ''kill'' them, and you are God's noblest of men. I find that, uh, truly remarkable."

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* MinionWithAnFInEvil: Deconstructed by Heydrich to Kritzinger
-->"Well
Kritzinger.
-->'''Heydrich''': Well
then, this is the moment to be... be...practical, until such time as Germany can afford your philosophy, which is what? Hound them, impoverish them, exploit them, imprison them - them, just do not ''kill'' them, and you are God's noblest of men. I find that, uh, truly remarkable."
18th Mar '16 6:11:33 PM 04tele
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* ManipulativeBastard: Reynhard Heydrich. He is very good at putting on an outer face of pleasantness and respect, but it gradually becomes apparent that the "conference" is not a discussion of whether to enact the Holocaust, but ''informing'' the various departments of what their role in the already decided-on genocide will be. At most, Heydrich is going to give them some points of clarification, but otherwise, he isn't really interested in anything they have to say - though he maintains the pretense of this for a while. Heydrich verbally dominates the entire conference. ''Frequently'', when one of the other men at the table attempt to interject a question, he will brush it off by earnestly and politely saying that he will take questions in a moment, but hasn't finished what he's saying. After a couple of rounds of his, it gradually becomes clear that Heydrich is just saying this to shut people up, and he has no intention of ever getting around to their questions. All said with a cheerful smile. This works with most of them, but when Stuckart adamantly insists that he doesn't like being cut out of the loop on important matters like this, Heydrich lets the mask drop for a moment, and bluntly make the offhand threat that it would be a shame if the bullies in the SS heard what an obstructionist he's being.

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* ManipulativeBastard: Reynhard Heydrich. He is very good at putting on an outer face of pleasantness and respect, but it gradually becomes apparent that the "conference" conference is not a discussion of whether or not to enact the Holocaust, mass killing of Jews, but ''informing'' a briefing in which the various departments of are being told what their role in the already decided-on genocide will be. At most, Heydrich is going to give gives them some points of clarification, but otherwise, he isn't really interested in anything they have to say - say, though he maintains the pretense of this for a while. Heydrich verbally dominates the entire conference. ''Frequently'', when one of the other men at the table attempt to interject a question, he will brush it off by earnestly and politely brushes it off by saying that he will take questions in a moment, but hasn't quite finished what he's saying. After a couple of rounds of his, this, it gradually becomes clear that Heydrich is just saying this to shut people up, and he has no intention of ever getting around to their questions. All of this is said with a cheerful smile. This works with most of them, but when Stuckart adamantly insists that he doesn't like being cut out of the loop on important matters like this, Heydrich lets the mask drop for a moment, and bluntly make the offhand threat that it would be a shame if the bullies in the SS heard what an obstructionist he's being.
18th Mar '16 6:05:08 PM 04tele
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* FalseReassurance: Kritzinger believes that the 'Final Solution to the Jewish Question' that is being discussed will not involve their complete annihilation because "that possibility has been personally denied to me by the Fuehrer." When it looks like the discussion is progressing in this fashion, he brings this up again in outrage -- and the response from Reinhardt Heydrich, the chairman of the meeting, is to simply reply "and it will continue to be." Kritzinger comes to the dawning realization that Heydrich is not saying there will be no extermination, but that Hitler will instead continue to lie about it for plausible deniability.

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* FalseReassurance: Kritzinger believes that the 'Final Solution to the Jewish Question' that is being discussed will not involve their complete annihilation because "that "That possibility has been personally denied to me by the Fuehrer." Fuehrer!" When it looks like the discussion is progressing in this fashion, he brings this up again in outrage -- and the response from Reinhardt Heydrich, the chairman of the meeting, is to simply reply "and replies "And it will continue to be." Kritzinger comes to the dawning realization finally realises that Heydrich is not saying there will be no extermination, but that Hitler will instead continue to lie about it for plausible deniability.
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