History Film / CharlieWilsonsWar

20th Oct '17 8:27:43 AM TrollBrutal
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* HiredForTheirLooks: Charlie Wilson purposefully surrounded himself with [[SexySecretary Sexy Secretaries]], and hired them based on looks. Also inverted, as they are ''highly'' competent in their jobs. His rule as paraphrased by one of said secretaries:

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* HiredForTheirLooks: Charlie Wilson purposefully surrounded surrounds himself with [[SexySecretary Sexy Secretaries]], and hired hires them based on looks. Also inverted, as Despite this, they are happen to be ''highly'' competent in their jobs. His rule as paraphrased by one of said secretaries:
20th Oct '17 1:58:03 AM Jamniq
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-->'''Gust Avrakotos:''' There's a little boy and on his 14th birthday he gets a horse... and everybody in the village says, "how wonderful. The boy got a horse" And the Zen master says, "[[WellSeeAboutThat we'll see]]." Two years later, the boy falls off the horse, breaks his leg, and everyone in the village says, "How terrible." And the Zen master says, "We'll see." Then, a war breaks out and all the young men have to go off and fight... except the boy can't cause his legs all messed up. and everybody in the village says, "How wonderful."

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-->'''Gust Avrakotos:''' There's a little boy and on his 14th birthday he gets a horse... and everybody in the village says, "how "How wonderful. The boy got a horse" And the Zen master says, "[[WellSeeAboutThat we'll We'll see]]." Two years later, the boy falls off the horse, breaks his leg, and everyone in the village says, "How terrible." And the Zen master says, "We'll see." Then, a war breaks out and all the young men have to go off and fight... except the boy can't cause his legs all messed up. and everybody in the village says, "How wonderful."



* BadassBookworm: Former Green Beret turned covert warfare strategist Michael Vickers, described by Gust as "The nerdy looking kid in the white shirt."

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* BadassBookworm: Former Green Beret turned covert warfare strategist Michael Vickers, described by Gust as "The "the nerdy looking kid in the white shirt."



* HiredForTheirLooks: Charlie Wilson purposefully surrounded himself with [[SexySecretary Sexy Secretaries]], and hired them based on looks. His rule as paraphrased by one of said secretaries:

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* HiredForTheirLooks: Charlie Wilson purposefully surrounded himself with [[SexySecretary Sexy Secretaries]], and hired them based on looks. Also inverted, as they are ''highly'' competent in their jobs. His rule as paraphrased by one of said secretaries:



* HowWeGotHere: the movie opens with Charlie Wilson being handed a civilian award for his efforts with the Afghan war. The movie then explains why Charlie has a [[HeroicBSOD pained, bittersweet expression]] on his face...

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* HowWeGotHere: the The movie opens with Charlie Wilson being handed a civilian award for his efforts with the Afghan war. The movie then explains why Charlie has a [[HeroicBSOD pained, bittersweet expression]] on his face...



-->'''Gust:''' My loyalty!? For twenty four years people have been trying to kill me! People who ''know how''. Now do you think that's because my dad was a Greek soda pop maker? Or do you think that's because I'm an ''American spy''?
* InnocentBlueEyes: Bonnie...especially apparent when she's looking at Charlie as he tells her of "the day I fell in love with America". Helps that she's played by Creator/AmyAdams.
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-->'''Gust:''' My loyalty!? For twenty four years people have been trying to kill me! People who ''know how''. Now do you think that's because my dad was a Greek soda pop maker? Or do you think that's because I'm an ''American spy''?
spy''? Go fuck yourself, you fucking child!
* InnocentBlueEyes: Bonnie... especially apparent when she's looking at Charlie as he tells her of "the day I fell in love with America". Helps that she's played by Creator/AmyAdams.
%%* InspiredBy* InspiredBy: Aside the very basic premise and certain minor details, most of the plot is made-up and characters are ''very'' broad strokes of real people.



* MoodWhiplash: the movie bounces between the horrors of war, the insanity of politics, and the comedy of Charlie's lifestyle.

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* MoodWhiplash: the The movie bounces between the horrors of war, the insanity of politics, and the comedy of Charlie's lifestyle.



* ObstructiveBureaucrat: Several of these in the CIA. Although the major suspect for it early on actually refuses to obstruct them later on the grounds that "Whatever he's doing... it's working."

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* ObstructiveBureaucrat: Several of these in the CIA. Although the major suspect for it early on [[SubvertedTrope actually refuses to obstruct them them]] later on the grounds that "Whatever he's doing... it's working."



* PointyHairedBoss: Cravely is a company-man more strict than competent. He is not completely unreasonable, but Gust has no patience for the obtuseness and tells the boss, in no uncertain terms, to go fuck himself. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgMclYRuOAo#t=1m54s twice]].

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* PointyHairedBoss: Cravely is a company-man more strict than competent. He is not completely unreasonable, but Gust has no patience for the obtuseness and tells the boss, in no uncertain terms, to go fuck himself. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgMclYRuOAo#t=1m54s twice]].Twice]].



* TantrumThrowing: Gust breaking his CIA boss' window after he's denied the Helsinki assignment.

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* TantrumThrowing: Gust breaking his CIA boss' window after he's denied the Helsinki assignment. It has been just replaced - after his ''previous outburst''.
31st May '17 10:28:35 AM Jan_z_Michal
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-->(Gust grabs a nearby tool and smashes out the glass front wall of Cravely's office)

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-->(Gust grabs a nearby tool and smashes out the new glass front wall of Cravely's office)office. Which was barely put to replace the old one, ''also'' smashed by Gust)
26th Apr '17 6:40:12 PM forgreatjustice
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-->'''Zvi:''' I love you Charlie, but you're still a little boy who hasn't learned to look both ways before ''crossing the fucking street''!

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-->'''Zvi:''' I love you, Charlie. But you Charlie, but you're are a ''grown man'', who still a little boy who hasn't learned to look both ways before ''crossing ''he crosses the fucking street''!
10th Feb '17 7:53:02 AM Eagal
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* FramingDevice -- we start and end some years after the main events of the film.

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* FramingDevice -- we FramingDevice: We start and end some years after the main events of the film.



* HiredForTheirLooks -- Charlie Wilson purposefully surrounded himself with [[SexySecretary Sexy Secretaries]], and hired them based on looks. His rule as paraphrased by one of said secretaries:

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* HiredForTheirLooks -- HiredForTheirLooks: Charlie Wilson purposefully surrounded himself with [[SexySecretary Sexy Secretaries]], and hired them based on looks. His rule as paraphrased by one of said secretaries:



* HistoricalHeroUpgrade -- depending on your politics. The real Charlie Wilson was not quite as liberal as the one in the film. (He didn't have to be -- the Soviets were also commies in RealLife, so it balances out.) May count as AuthorAppeal, as [[Creator/AaronSorkin the guy who wrote the screenplay]] is the guy who gave us ''Film/TheAmericanPresident'' and ''Series/TheWestWing''.

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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade -- depending HistoricalHeroUpgrade: Depending on your politics. The real Charlie Wilson was not quite as liberal as the one in the film. (He didn't have to be -- the Soviets were also commies in RealLife, so it balances out.) May count as AuthorAppeal, as [[Creator/AaronSorkin the guy who wrote the screenplay]] is the guy who gave us ''Film/TheAmericanPresident'' and ''Series/TheWestWing''.



* HowWeGotHere -- the movie opens with Charlie Wilson being handed a civilian award for his efforts with the Afghan war. The movie then explains why Charlie has a [[HeroicBSOD pained, bittersweet expression]] on his face...

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* HowWeGotHere -- HowWeGotHere: the movie opens with Charlie Wilson being handed a civilian award for his efforts with the Afghan war. The movie then explains why Charlie has a [[HeroicBSOD pained, bittersweet expression]] on his face...



* JerkWithAHeartOfGold -- Gust. He's blunt, rude and lacking in social skills. But he's competent, knows his stuff... and tries to warn Charlie at various points of the arming efforts that there could be painful consequences down the road.

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold -- JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Gust. He's blunt, rude and lacking in social skills. But he's competent, knows his stuff... and tries to warn Charlie at various points of the arming efforts that there could be painful consequences down the road.



* SexySecretary -- Charlie was notorious for this in real life. His aides were referred to as "Charlie's Angels", a play on the television show of the same name. One of his secretaries explains it beautifully to a visitor: "Well... Congressman Wilson, he has an expression. He says, 'You can teach 'em to type, but you can't teach 'em to grow tits.'" Which was something the real Charlie Wilson said (to a reporter) who questioned him about his preference for hiring beautiful women as his aides. Aside that, the secretaries are very competent at their jobs. They're not just EyeCandy.

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* SexySecretary -- SexySecretary: Charlie was notorious for this in real life. His aides were referred to as "Charlie's Angels", a play on the television show of the same name. One of his secretaries explains it beautifully to a visitor: "Well... Congressman Wilson, he has an expression. He says, 'You can teach 'em to type, but you can't teach 'em to grow tits.'" Which was something the real Charlie Wilson said (to a reporter) who questioned him about his preference for hiring beautiful women as his aides. Aside that, the secretaries are very competent at their jobs. They're not just EyeCandy.
10th Feb '17 7:50:57 AM Eagal
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* TantrumThrowing / DramaticShattering: Gust breaking his CIA boss' window after he's denied the Helsinki assignment.

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* TantrumThrowing / DramaticShattering: TantrumThrowing: Gust breaking his CIA boss' window after he's denied the Helsinki assignment.



* WorkHardPlayHard -- Charlie Wilson's motto.

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* WorkHardPlayHard -- WorkHardPlayHard: Charlie Wilson's motto.
10th Feb '17 7:50:22 AM Eagal
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* BittersweetEnding: Charlie Wilson succeeds in getting the American government to arm Afghan rebels and drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan. But when it comes time to rebuild the war-torn nation he can't raise one cent, allowing the extremist Taliban to take over Afghanistan. [[TheWarOnTerror And that all led to]]...

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* BittersweetEnding: Charlie Wilson succeeds in getting the American government to arm Afghan rebels and drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan. But when it comes time to rebuild the war-torn nation he can't raise one cent, allowing the extremist Taliban to take over Afghanistan. [[TheWarOnTerror And that all led to]]...to the events surrounding UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror.
10th Feb '17 7:49:36 AM Eagal
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* InspiredBy

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24th Dec '16 5:23:39 AM Gosicrystal
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* ByNoIMeanYes: As only befitting an Creator/AaronSorkin production.
-->'''Bonnie Bach:''' This is an ultra-right-wing group of anti-Communist fanatics.\\
'''Charlie Wilson:''' They're not ultra right-wing.\\
'''Bonnie:''' What are they?\\
'''Charlie:''' Well, they're... ultra right-wing.



* NoExceptYes: As only befitting an Creator/AaronSorkin production.
-->'''Bonnie Bach:''' This is an ultra-right-wing group of anti-Communist fanatics.\\
'''Charlie Wilson:''' They're not ultra right-wing.\\
'''Bonnie:''' What are they?\\
'''Charlie:''' Well, they're... ultra right-wing.
6th Aug '16 10:30:19 PM JackG
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Charlie Wilson succeeds in getting the American government to arm Afghan rebels and drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan. But when it comes time to rebuild the war-torn nation he can't raise one cent, allowing the extremist Taliban to take over Afghanistan. [[TheWarOnTerror And that all led to]]...]]
-->[[spoiler: '''Charlie Wilson''': These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game.]]

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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Charlie Wilson succeeds in getting the American government to arm Afghan rebels and drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan. But when it comes time to rebuild the war-torn nation he can't raise one cent, allowing the extremist Taliban to take over Afghanistan. [[TheWarOnTerror And that all led to]]...]]
-->[[spoiler: '''Charlie
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-->'''Charlie
Wilson''': These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the end game.]]



* {{Foreshadowing}}: [[spoiler: An airliner can be heard flying overhead as Gust tries to warn Wilson about "the crazies rolling into Kandahar"]].

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: [[spoiler: An airliner can be heard flying overhead as Gust tries to warn Wilson about "the crazies rolling into Kandahar"]].Kandahar".



* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler: Invoked, the movie makes a point about how [[WonTheWarLostThePeace neglecting the aftermath paves the way for a tyrannical regime.]] ]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Wilson:''' These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the endgame]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler: Invoked, the movie makes a point about how [[WonTheWarLostThePeace neglecting the aftermath paves the way for a tyrannical regime.]] ]]
--> [[spoiler: '''Wilson:'''
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-->'''Wilson:'''
These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the endgame]].endgame.



* HowWeGotHere -- the movie opens [[spoiler: with Charlie Wilson being handed a civilian award for his efforts with the Afghan war. The movie then explains why Charlie has a [[HeroicBSOD pained, bittersweet expression]] on his face...]]

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* HowWeGotHere -- the movie opens [[spoiler: with Charlie Wilson being handed a civilian award for his efforts with the Afghan war. The movie then explains why Charlie has a [[HeroicBSOD pained, bittersweet expression]] on his face...]]



* JerkWithAHeartOfGold -- Gust. He's blunt, rude and lacking in social skills. But he's competent, knows his stuff... [[spoiler: and tries to warn Charlie at various points of the arming efforts that there could be painful consequences down the road]].

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold -- Gust. He's blunt, rude and lacking in social skills. But he's competent, knows his stuff... [[spoiler: and tries to warn Charlie at various points of the arming efforts that there could be painful consequences down the road]].road.



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: [[spoiler: Subverted. It's not Charlie's fault that Afghanistan slides into Taliban control: he's seen trying to get his fellow congressmen to send more rebuilding aid and failing. It leads to Charlie's unhappy grimace at the award ceremony that the movie both opens and closes on. In RealLife, Charlie Wilson remained worried that his actions unintentionally contributed to TheWarOnTerror, and said that every time an airliner went down, he would be afraid that one of the Stingers they gave the Afghans would be responsible.]]

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: [[spoiler: Subverted. It's not Charlie's fault that Afghanistan slides into Taliban control: he's seen trying to get his fellow congressmen to send more rebuilding aid and failing. It leads to Charlie's unhappy grimace at the award ceremony that the movie both opens and closes on. In RealLife, Charlie Wilson remained worried that his actions unintentionally contributed to TheWarOnTerror, and said that every time an airliner went down, he would be afraid that one of the Stingers they gave the Afghans would be responsible.]]



* OnlySaneMan: Gust has a sailor mouth, but he understands the world a lot better than most people, and knows that behind the celebration of the Soviet withdrawal, [[spoiler: new problems could very well emerge, and urges Charlie to resolve them]].

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* OnlySaneMan: Gust has a sailor mouth, but he understands the world a lot better than most people, and knows that behind the celebration of the Soviet withdrawal, [[spoiler: new problems could very well emerge, and urges Charlie to resolve them]].them.
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