History Film / BatmanForever

15th Mar '18 8:22:41 PM DrakeClawfang
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* SuddenlyShouting: Riddler gets to indulge in this. It comes with being a LargeHam played by Jim Carrey.
-->"Batman? Batman, you say? Coming for you? *long pause* I'm.... COUNTING ON IT!!"
15th Mar '18 8:19:45 PM DrakeClawfang
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* NotSoHarmlessVillain: On the one hand, The Riddler is played by Jim Carrey at the height of his LargeHam comedy days, he looks ridiculous in the Riddler outfits, and he's just plain ''weird''. On the other hand, he terminates his boss by letting him drop hundreds of feet into the ocean out of a glass window, blows up the Batcave and most of Bruce's equipment with it (including the Batmobile and his suits), founded and built a hugely successful company and made a fortune from it, became a super-intelligent genius with his invention and used it to discover Batman's true identity, and if not for his need to have Bruce live so he could show him up, he could have flat ''killed him''. Until the Nolanverse brought in Bane, none of the other film villains before or since have done so impressively. The only reason Batman and Robin even make it to his base is because he didn't anticipate Batman having a Batcave ''under the Batcave''.

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* NotSoHarmlessVillain: On the one hand, The Riddler is played by Jim Carrey at the height of his LargeHam comedy days, he looks ridiculous in the Riddler outfits, and he's just plain ''weird''. On the other hand, he terminates his boss by letting him drop hundreds of feet into the ocean out of a glass window, blows up the Batcave and most of Bruce's equipment with it (including the Batmobile and his suits), founded and built a hugely successful company and made a fortune from it, became a super-intelligent genius with his invention and used it to discover Batman's true identity, invaded Bruce's mansion to blow up the Batcave and most of Bruce's equipment (including the Batmobile and his suits), and if not for his psychological need to have Bruce live so he could show him up, he Nygma could have flat ''killed him''.killed him outright. Until the Nolanverse brought in Bane, none of the other film villains before or since have done so impressively. The only reason Batman and Robin even make it to his base is because he didn't anticipate Batman having a Batcave ''under the Batcave''.
12th Mar '18 12:40:54 AM JudasZala
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* IAmLegion: Two-Face refers to himself as "we" and "us."

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* IAmLegion: Two-Face refers to himself as either "we" and or "us."
10th Mar '18 9:23:06 AM EBsessed
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** The uncredited Ed Begley, Jr. is also ''quite'' over the top as Stickley ("What the HELLISGOINONHERE?"). Perhaps he didn't take the movie very seriously. Creator/NicoleKidman gets her slice of pork as well.

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** The uncredited Ed Begley, Jr. is also ''quite'' over the top as Stickley ("What the HELLISGOINONHERE?").HELLISGOINGONHEEERE?"). Perhaps he didn't take the movie very seriously. Creator/NicoleKidman gets her slice of pork as well.



* YouGottaHaveBlueHair: According to the latest science, there is no precedent for acid damage causing root follicles to grow electric purple hair; so this was also likely an aesthetic choice made by Schumacher in keeping with the film's color schemes.

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* YouGottaHaveBlueHair: According to the latest science, there is no precedent for acid damage causing root follicles to grow electric purple hair; hair, so this was also likely an aesthetic choice made by Schumacher in keeping with the film's color schemes.scheme.
8th Mar '18 1:28:25 PM EBsessed
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--> '''Riddler''': "Don't kill him...If you kill him, ''he won't learn nothin'.''"\\

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--> '''Riddler''': "Don't "Doooon't kill him...him! If you kill him, him...''he won't learn nothin'.''"\\nothin'!''"\\



** Humorously averted by Riddler: "No! Don't kill him! If you kill him...he won't learn nuthin'!"

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** Humorously averted by Riddler: "No! Don't "NO!!! Doooon't kill him! If you kill him...he won't learn nuthin'!"



-->'''Riddler:''' If you kill him, he won't learn nothin'.

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-->'''Riddler:''' If you kill him, him...he won't learn nothin'.nothin'!



--->'''Riddler:''' Kill The Bat! Sounds like a good idea! But have you thought it through? A few bullets, a quick splash of blood, AndThenWhat Wet hands...post-homicidal depression. *blubbering sounds*

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--->'''Riddler:''' Kill The Bat! KILL THE BAT! Sounds like a good idea! But have you thought it through? A few bullets, a quick splash of blood, AndThenWhat Wet hands...post-homicidal depression. *blubbering depression.... *pantomimes falling tears while making mocking blubbering sounds*



** After Batman survives Two-Face's attempt to incinerate him (in [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome one of the most awesome]] NotQuiteDead moments Batman has ever had, as he comes running out of the fire, leaving Two-Face and his {{mooks}} jaw dropped), Two-Face, now mad with frustration screams: "WHY CAN'T YOU JUST DIE!?" and fires a grenade at the support Batman was standing on, causing the entire structure to collapse and bury him. This might have actually worked, had Dick not come along to pull Batman out of there.

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** After Batman survives Two-Face's attempt to incinerate him (in [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome one of the most awesome]] NotQuiteDead moments Batman has ever had, as he comes running out of the fire, leaving Two-Face and his {{mooks}} jaw dropped), Two-Face, now mad with frustration screams: screams, "WHY CAN'T YOU JUST DIE!?" DIIIIIE?!" and fires a grenade at the support Batman was standing on, causing the entire structure to collapse and bury him. This might have actually worked, worked had Dick not come along to pull Batman out of there.
8th Mar '18 1:20:14 PM EBsessed
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* WeHaveReserves: When his chopper pilot helpfully points out the black-clad superhero on their windshield, Two-Face simply shoots through him. (Yep, he literally [[ShootTheMessenger shoots the messenger]].) Later, his RPG misses the physics-defying Batmobile and slams into a carload of his own mooks, instead.

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* WeHaveReserves: When his chopper pilot helpfully points out the black-clad superhero on their windshield, Two-Face simply shoots through him. (Yep, he literally [[ShootTheMessenger shoots the messenger]].) Later, his RPG misses the physics-defying Batmobile and slams into a carload of his own mooks, mooks instead.
8th Mar '18 1:12:21 PM EBsessed
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* UnConfession: Bruce Wayne tries to announce his identity as Batman to a circus tent full of people in order to stop Two-Face from releasing his massive bomb, but nobody hears him over the screams of the panicked crowd. He also spills the secret to Nygma, who later loses his mind and declares ''himself'' Batman when questioned by the Asylum staff.

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* UnConfession: Bruce Wayne tries to announce his identity as Batman to a circus tent full of panicking people in order to stop Two-Face from releasing his massive bomb, but nobody hears him over the screams of the panicked crowd. He also unwillingly spills the secret to Nygma, who later loses his mind and declares ''himself'' Batman when questioned by the Asylum staff.staff after he begins to adamantly claim he knows who Batman is.



* UngratefulBastard: Bruce, after Dick saved him. He doesn't want him getting involved.
-->'''Dick:''' I just saved your life! You owe me!\\

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* UngratefulBastard: Bruce, after Dick saved saves him. He just doesn't want him getting involved.
-->'''Dick:''' I just saved your life! You owe ''owe'' me!\\



* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Edward Nygma becomes this when he uses the profits from his alter-ego's crime spree with Two-Face to start his own company and his "Box" devices become hugely popular.

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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Edward Nygma becomes this when he uses the profits from his alter-ego's crime spree with Two-Face to start his own company and his "Box" devices become device becomes hugely popular.



** Two-Face continuously has these throughout as a bit of a RunningGag whenever he fails at killing the Bat. And toward the end, [[spoiler: when he has his DisneyVillainDeath screaming frantically falling to his death reaching desperately for his coin]].

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** Two-Face continuously has these throughout as a bit of a RunningGag whenever he fails at killing to kill the Bat. And Then toward the end, [[spoiler: when he has his DisneyVillainDeath screaming frantically and falling to his death death, reaching desperately for his coin]].
8th Mar '18 1:04:37 PM EBsessed
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* TisOnlyABulletInTheBrain: During the siege of Wayne Manor, Bruce's forehead is grazed by Two-Face's bullet, causing him to tumble off a marble staircase. The fall seems to inflict more harm than the gun did.
* TitleDrop: In a way, "Forever" was heard twice in the whole movie.
-->'''Two-Face:''' ''(believing he's killed Batman)'' Farewell forever to that pointy-eared night rat!
-->'''Bruce:''' ''(while telling Chase about his DarkAndTroubledPast)'' I fell. I fell forever.
* TrailersAlwaysSpoil: The [[VideoFullOfFilmClips music video]] for "Kiss From A Rose" by Seal shows the scene where Batman destroys The Box, where The Riddler was stockpiling people's brainwaves, and the video for "Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me" by U2 shows Batman saving a captive Robin from being dropped into the pit below the Riddler's island. In other words, the two videos combined showed the majority of the movie's climax.

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* TisOnlyABulletInTheBrain: During the siege of Wayne Manor, Bruce's forehead is grazed by Two-Face's bullet, causing him to tumble off a marble staircase. The fall seems to inflict more harm than the gun did.
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* TitleDrop: In a way, "Forever" was is heard twice in the whole movie.
-->'''Two-Face:''' ''(believing he's killed Batman)'' Farewell forever for-EVER to that pointy-eared night pointy-eared...NIGHT rat!
-->'''Bruce:''' ''(while telling Chase about his DarkAndTroubledPast)'' I fell. I fell forever.
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* TrailersAlwaysSpoil: The [[VideoFullOfFilmClips music video]] for "Kiss From A Rose" by Seal shows the scene where Batman destroys The Box, where The Riddler was is stockpiling people's brainwaves, and the video for "Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me" by U2 shows Batman saving a captive Robin from being dropped into the pit below the Riddler's island. In other words, the two videos combined showed the majority of the movie's climax.



* TruerToTheText: Let's face it, the campy elements of Batman are just as ingrained into the character's history as the dark vigilante. The movie also shows him [[TechnicalPacifist taking pains NOT to kill anyone]], using his skills as a GreatDetective, much more active in the Gotham socialite and charity scene and the kind of OneManArmy who drops in the middle of the bad guys and takes them all down, all of which are either non-existent or very subdued in the Burton movies.
* TwoHeadedCoin: Two-Face, as always. Here, however, he keeps flipping the coin until he gets the outcome he wants, making it a DoubleSubversion.

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* TruerToTheText: Let's face it, the campy elements of Batman are just as ingrained into the character's history as the dark vigilante. The movie also shows him [[TechnicalPacifist taking pains NOT to kill anyone]], using his skills as a GreatDetective, being much more active in the Gotham socialite and charity scene scene, and acting as the kind of OneManArmy who drops in the middle of the bad guys and takes them all down, all of which are either non-existent or very subdued in the Burton movies.
* TwoHeadedCoin: Two-Face, as always. Here, In one scene, however, he keeps flipping the coin until he gets the outcome he wants, making it a DoubleSubversion.



*** In the end Two-Face forgets his shtick entirely, and Batman has to remind him of it before he [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim Just Shoots Him]].

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*** In the end end, Two-Face forgets his shtick entirely, entirely and Batman has to remind him of it before he [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim Just Shoots Him]].just shoots him]].
8th Mar '18 12:39:42 PM EBsessed
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** Chase is just intellectually curious (maybe more than normal) and romantically attracted; Nygma is an ''actual'' stalker, posting sinister mail to his target, having photos and newspaper clippings of them all over his office and home, and dealing with their rejection by plotting to show up, humiliate and eventually kill them. The worst Chase does is hijack the Batsignal, which she semi-justifies by talking about Two-Face's psychological weaknesses.

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** Chase is just intellectually curious (maybe more than normal) and romantically attracted; Nygma is an ''actual'' stalker, posting sinister mail to his target, having photos and newspaper clippings of them all over his office and home, and dealing with their his rejection by plotting to show up, humiliate and eventually kill them. him. The worst Chase does is hijack the Batsignal, which she semi-justifies by talking about Two-Face's psychological weaknesses.weaknesses...although her insight turns out to be useless when Batman says that already had it figured out.



-->"One man is born a hero, his brother a coward. Babies starve, politicians grow fat. Holy men are martyred, and junkies grow legion. Why? Whywhywhywhywhy?....LUCK! BLIND, STUPID, SIMPLE, DOO-DAH, CLUELESS LUCK!"
* SupervillainLair: Two-Face's base is hidden in the fixtures of a bridge, and is split down the middle between an art deco suite from the [=1960s=] and some kind of S&M dungeon. Nygma, starting his criminal career from the ground up, gradually builds himself a throne room filled with all the question marks his heart desires.

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-->"One man is born a hero, his brother a coward. Babies starve, politicians grow fat. Holy men are martyred, and junkies grow legion. Why? Whywhywhywhywhy?....LUCK! legion, why? Why, why, why, why, why? ...LLLUCK! BLIND, STUPID, SIMPLE, DOO-DAH, CLUELESS LUCK!"
LLLUCK!"
* SupervillainLair: Two-Face's base is hidden in the fixtures of a bridge, bridge and is split down the middle between an art deco suite from the [=1960s=] and some kind of S&M dungeon. Nygma, starting his criminal career from the ground up, gradually builds himself a throne room filled with all the question marks his heart desires.
8th Mar '18 12:22:26 PM EBsessed
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* SophisticatedAsHell: Inverted; Chase, in a hurry to be rid of Bruce, dismisses his riddle-loving stalker as a "total whacko." Bruce asks whether that's a term they teach in academia, and Chase retorts with a long, professional-sounding diagnosis.

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* SophisticatedAsHell: Inverted; Inverted. Chase, in a hurry to be rid of Bruce, dismisses his riddle-loving stalker as a "total whacko.wacko." Bruce asks whether that's a term they teach in academia, and Chase retorts with a long, professional-sounding diagnosis.diagnosis.
-->'''Bruce''': So what you're saying is...[[DeadpanSnarker the guy's a total wacko.]]
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