History Film / ANewHope

18th Mar '17 7:14:46 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* MentorArchetype: Obi-Wan Kenobi fills this role so well, [[TropeCodifier the Trope was once named after him.]]



* TheObiWan: [[CaptainObvious Take a]] [[TropeNamer wild guess.]]
18th Mar '17 7:12:34 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* TheObiWan: [[CaptainObvious Take a]] [[TropeNamer wild guess.]]
17th Mar '17 5:20:44 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* BlackAndWhiteMorality: The Rebel Alliance, Luke and co. are the good guys, and the Empire are the clear-cut bad guys. Han Solo starts off in a grey area, but even he ends up becoming a hero in the end.

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* BlackAndWhiteMorality: The Rebel Alliance, Luke and co. are the good guys, and the Empire are the clear-cut bad guys.guys, the Trope played straight right down to the clothes worn by named characters. Han Solo starts off in a grey area, but even he ends up becoming a hero in the end.
13th Mar '17 5:27:47 PM NightShade96
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness:
** Grand Moff Tarkin seems perfectly comfortable with acting like he's Darth Vader's ''superior'' -- and Vader doesn't give any hint of having a problem with it. This sort of dynamic would ''never'' happen in the later two movies (or even ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', for that matter) -- where Vader is answerable only to the Emperor, and commands Admirals and even disposes of them as he sees fit. It is possible to justify this fairly easily in-universe, however, as Tarkin and presumably a lot more of the Imperial leadership were killed in the explosion of the Death Star, causing Vader to be moved up to TheDragon fully.
** The fact that Admiral Motti feels free to lash out at Vader with complete contempt... again, something that would ''never'' happen in the later films. (Granted, Motti pays for his foolishness, but he's exceptionally surprised by the comeuppance at all. By the time of ''Empire'' and ''Jedi'', Admirals know enough to be terrified of Vader from the outset.)
** More generally, the relationships between the characters can seem a little bizarre in retrospect -- and this is caused by two relationships not actually ''being true'' from the perspective of ANH's script: Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker and Luke & Leia.
*** Firstly, the movie seems to treat Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker as separate people... because, in this script as written and shot, they ''were''. The Skywalker family twists weren't laid out until the writing of ''Empire'', and there's some oddness as a result. For example, Kenobi calls Vader "Darth" as if Darth is a first name and not a title, because it ''was'' intended as a first name when the movie was shot; in retrospect, it comes off as Obi-Wan trying to needle his former pupil into making a mistake.
*** Also, some of the scenes in ANH with Luke and Leia (never mind some of those posters) seem a little weirdly incestuous now... and that's because, in the movie as shot, Luke and Leia ''aren't'' meant to be related. In ANH, Leia was simply intended as a noble who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and then in the right place at the right time, one might say, and as a result the mild flirtatious elements were supposed to be completely innocent and expected of the movie's genre.
*** The two combined also lead to one other bit of weirdness: Leia's captivity ''right next to her dad''. In the movie as shot, by itself, there's nothing odd because Vader and Leia aren't related at all, so he has no reason to take note of her beyond a tool for information. In the context of the rest of the movies and ''any'' EU material, even post-reset material, not only is it very strange that he doesn't notice a strong similarity to both Padme and ''himself'' in Leia, but the Force should be all but screaming at Vader that he is related to Leia -- even through the veil of the dark side.
** Admiral Motti's description of the Force as a "sad devotion to that ancient religion" seems downright bizarre, given that its existence was treated as common knowledge in the Prequel Trilogy, a timeframe in which Motti would likely have been alive (albeit very young). This is largely because when the film was written Lucas envisioned exact knowledge of the Force and Jedi powers to be something which only a select few had knowledge of, which was gradually contradicted by the Expanded Universe novels and comics, and then jettisoned altogether by ''The Phantom Menace''. Some later novels, such as the ''Republic Commando'' novels, took some steps to try and square the two perspectives, but with limited success.
** Darth Vader has NoIndoorVoice for most of his scenes on the ''Tantive IV'', and yells at prisoners and officers alike with abandon. This is a stark contrast to all his subsequent scenes and the sequels, where he is TheStoic and expresses his anger solely through TranquilFury. His voice is also somewhat higher-pitched than in the later movies, where it was also further enhanced to sound more robotic.
** The Imperial March motif does not appear in the film, as it was not composed until ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''.
** When Chewie first enters the cockpit of the ''Millennium Falcon'', he bumps his head against a hair of hanging dice. Besides the [[Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial holiday special]], they never appeared again after this shot.
** In the cantina, Obi-Wan uses his lightsaber to lop an arm off a barfly. Said arm is then covered in blood, even though it's later shown that lightsabers also cauterize wounds.

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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness:
** Grand Moff Tarkin seems perfectly comfortable with acting like he's Darth Vader's ''superior'' -- and Vader doesn't give any hint of having a problem with it. This sort of dynamic would ''never'' happen in the later two movies (or even ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', for that matter) -- where Vader is answerable only to the Emperor, and commands Admirals and even disposes of them as he sees fit. It is possible to justify this fairly easily in-universe, however, as Tarkin and presumably a lot more of the Imperial leadership were killed in the explosion of the Death Star, causing Vader to be moved up to TheDragon fully.
** The fact that Admiral Motti feels free to lash out at Vader with complete contempt... again, something that would ''never'' happen in the later films. (Granted, Motti pays for his foolishness, but he's exceptionally surprised by the comeuppance at all. By the time of ''Empire'' and ''Jedi'', Admirals know enough to be terrified of Vader from the outset.)
** More generally, the relationships between the characters can seem a little bizarre in retrospect -- and this is caused by two relationships not actually ''being true'' from the perspective of ANH's script: Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker and Luke & Leia.
*** Firstly, the movie seems to treat Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker as separate people... because, in this script as written and shot, they ''were''. The Skywalker family twists weren't laid out until the writing of ''Empire'', and there's some oddness as a result. For example, Kenobi calls Vader "Darth" as if Darth is a first name and not a title, because it ''was'' intended as a first name when the movie was shot; in retrospect, it comes off as Obi-Wan trying to needle his former pupil into making a mistake.
*** Also, some of the scenes in ANH with Luke and Leia (never mind some of those posters) seem a little weirdly incestuous now... and that's because, in the movie as shot, Luke and Leia ''aren't'' meant to be related. In ANH, Leia was simply intended as a noble who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and then in the right place at the right time, one might say, and as a result the mild flirtatious elements were supposed to be completely innocent and expected of the movie's genre.
*** The two combined also lead to one other bit of weirdness: Leia's captivity ''right next to her dad''. In the movie as shot, by itself, there's nothing odd because Vader and Leia aren't related at all, so he has no reason to take note of her beyond a tool for information. In the context of the rest of the movies and ''any'' EU material, even post-reset material, not only is it very strange that he doesn't notice a strong similarity to both Padme and ''himself'' in Leia, but the Force should be all but screaming at Vader that he is related to Leia -- even through the veil of the dark side.
** Admiral Motti's description of the Force as a "sad devotion to that ancient religion" seems downright bizarre, given that
EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Has its existence was treated as common knowledge in the Prequel Trilogy, a timeframe in which Motti would likely have been alive (albeit very young). This is largely because when the film was written Lucas envisioned exact knowledge of the Force and Jedi powers to be something which only a select few had knowledge of, which was gradually contradicted by the Expanded Universe novels and comics, and then jettisoned altogether by ''The Phantom Menace''. Some later novels, such as the ''Republic Commando'' novels, took some steps to try and square the two perspectives, but with limited success.
** Darth Vader has NoIndoorVoice for most of his scenes on the ''Tantive IV'', and yells at prisoners and officers alike with abandon. This is a stark contrast to all his subsequent scenes and the sequels, where he is TheStoic and expresses his anger solely through TranquilFury. His voice is also somewhat higher-pitched than in the later movies, where it was also further enhanced to sound more robotic.
** The Imperial March motif does not appear in the film, as it was not composed until ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''.
** When Chewie first enters the cockpit of the ''Millennium Falcon'', he bumps his head against a hair of hanging dice. Besides the [[Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial holiday special]], they never appeared again after this shot.
** In the cantina, Obi-Wan uses his lightsaber to lop an arm off a barfly. Said arm is then covered in blood, even though it's later shown that lightsabers also cauterize wounds.
own [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness/ANewHope page]].
9th Mar '17 9:42:16 AM ritzoreo
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* GreaterScopeVillain: The Emperor is a background figure who never appears nor does he intervene in the decisions taken. He's only mentioned almost in passing a couple of times through the film.
5th Mar '17 9:02:06 AM nighttrainfm
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* ImplausibleDeniability: Captain Antilles and Leia both try to insist that ''Tantive IV'' is on a diplomatic mission. Vader is having none of it and takes the ship captive. Probably since, according to ''Film/RogueOne'', [[spoiler:in said battle he missed boarding their ship by about 2 seconds and also engaged their comrades in battle]]

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* ImplausibleDeniability: Captain Antilles and Leia both try to insist that ''Tantive IV'' is on a diplomatic mission. Vader is having none of it and takes the ship captive. Probably since, according to ''Film/RogueOne'', [[spoiler:in said battle he missed boarding their ship by about 2 two seconds and also engaged their comrades in battle]]



* RefugeInAudacity: As it turns out, Leia's statements about a 'diplomatic mission' becomes this in light of ''Film/RogueOne''. [[spoiler:Given that Vader had literally just witnessed the Tantive IV flee Scarif, it took serious balls to lie to his face. It doesn't work]].

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* RefugeInAudacity: As it turns out, Leia's statements about a 'diplomatic mission' becomes this in light of ''Film/RogueOne''. [[spoiler:Given that Vader had literally just witnessed the Tantive IV flee Scarif, it took serious balls to lie to his face. It doesn't work]].work.]]
19th Feb '17 3:39:01 PM DustSnitch
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* BoardingParty: The Imperials blasting their way into the Rebel corvette at the start of ''A New Hope''.
* BottomlessPit: Which Luke and Leia swing over.



* BottomlessPit: Which Luke and Leia swing over.
19th Feb '17 5:09:00 AM DariusAngel
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* TooDumbToLive: The guy on the Star Destroyer who didn't think it worth a single laser blast to play it safe and destroy a seemingly unoccupied escape pod, even though the entire reason for boarding the ship was to track down a missing set of Death Star plans that could easily have been stowed away in the pod (as indeed they were). He's technically to blame for the thousand of people presumably killed when Luke later blows the Death Star up.

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* TooDumbToLive: The guy on the Star Destroyer who didn't think it worth a single laser blast to play it safe and destroy a seemingly unoccupied escape pod, even though the entire reason for boarding the ship was to track down a missing set of Death Star plans that could easily have been stowed away in the pod (as indeed they were). He's technically to blame for the thousand thousands of people presumably killed when Luke later blows the Death Star up.
19th Feb '17 5:02:49 AM DariusAngel
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* RightManInTheWrongPlace: Luke is not initially meant to be the one who destroys the Death Star, but as the battle goes on, every one of the Rebels' pilots is killed or disarmed, leaving first-time soldier Luke to save the day. Thankfully, Luke is attune to the Force, which lets him make the one in a million shot at the Death Star's weak point.

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* RightManInTheWrongPlace: Luke is not initially meant to be the one who destroys the Death Star, but as the battle goes on, every one of the Rebels' pilots is killed or disarmed, leaving first-time soldier Luke to save the day. Thankfully, Luke is attune attuned to the Force, which lets him make the one in a million shot at the Death Star's weak point.
19th Feb '17 4:51:52 AM DariusAngel
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** The Death Star either fired their safety inspection team or have complete disregard for the safety of their staff, because the inside of the station is a giant death trap. You have massive chasms with very tiny bridges that can be retracted, and they have no railings or support at all. The tractor beam's power is controlled through a panel perched on a tower over a bottomless pit, and the catwalk to access the controls is about a foot wide. There are giant doors that slam shut in the blink of an eye. Their hanger bay has a giant, open elevator pit right next to where the ships would land. Heck, the superlaser cannon has two crew members perched on the itty bitty platform right next to the gigantic superlaser beam!

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** The Death Star either fired their safety inspection team or have complete disregard for the safety of their staff, because the inside of the station is a giant death trap. You have massive chasms with very tiny bridges that can be retracted, and they have no railings or support at all. The tractor beam's power is controlled through a panel perched on a tower over a bottomless pit, and the catwalk to access the controls is about a foot wide. There are giant doors that slam shut in the blink of an eye. Their hanger hangar bay has a giant, open elevator pit right next to where the ships would land. Heck, the superlaser cannon has two crew members perched on the itty bitty platform right next to the gigantic superlaser beam!



** Also inverted later, when Luke shoots a door's control panel to make it ''harder'' to open. This unwittingly keeps him and Leia from extending the bridge across. Luke also does this in the Death Star Hanger Bay, shooting a Blast Door control panel to immediately seal it shut, keeping Darth Vader from reaching them.

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** Also inverted later, when Luke shoots a door's control panel to make it ''harder'' to open. This unwittingly keeps him and Leia from extending the bridge across. Luke also does this in the Death Star Hanger Hangar Bay, shooting a Blast Door control panel to immediately seal it shut, keeping Darth Vader from reaching them.
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