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The story was originally published in June 2017. The most recent chapter was posted in October 2017. It is incomplete.
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: The one thing Catelyn desperately wants is for Lyarra to leave Winterfell, when the hidden princess does so, Ned is left utterly broken and depressed. All the children are upset and miss her in different ways and people whisper that Catelyn might have done something to the young girl.
** [[spoiler:Seeing that Visenya will be Aegon's queen in the future, Catelyn will really end up having tons of regrets.]]
** [[spoiler:Seeing that Visenya will be Aegon's queen in the future, Catelyn will really end up having tons of regrets.]]
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: The one thing Catelyn desperately wants is for Lyarra to leave Winterfell, when the hidden princess does so, Ned is left utterly broken and depressed. All the children are upset and miss her in different ways and people whisper that Catelyn might have done something to the young girl.
**girl. [[spoiler:Seeing that Visenya will be Aegon's queen in the future, Catelyn will really end up having tons of regrets.]]
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* DeadFic: The story was updated over a period of almost exactly four months in 2017, averaging about two chapters per month, but was left unfinished in October of that year and has not been updated since.
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* ThickerThanWater: After Visenya sends a letter to Ned informing him that she is aware of her true lineage and that she has hatched a dragon, Ned makes Robb promise that in event of his untimely dead before the time comes, Robb is to declare for Lyarra aka Visenya Targaryen. He does this without a hint of ConflictingLoyalties to Robert.
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* ThickerThanWater: After Visenya sends a letter to Ned informing him that she is aware of her true lineage and that she has hatched a dragon, Ned makes Robb promise that in event of his untimely dead before the time comes, Robb is to declare for Lyarra aka Lyarra, akak Visenya Targaryen. He does this without a hint of ConflictingLoyalties to Robert.
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** Catelyn fears that her children are this for Ned. Ned was pretty much forced to marry her when he was in love with another woman that as a second son he would have been free to marry. It drives her cruelty toward Lyarra.
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** Catelyn fears that her children are this for Ned. Ned was pretty much forced had to marry her in a last-minute strategic match when her original betrothed, his brother Brandon, died, while he was in love with another woman that as a second son he would have been free to marry. It drives her cruelty toward Lyarra.
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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Despite giving herself airs as a highborn lady of legitimate birth, Sansa is painfully aware that Lyarra is more beautiful and talented than her.
** Catelyn also knows very well that Ned wished to marry the beautiful, alluring and elegant Lady Ashara Dayne.
** Catelyn also knows very well that Ned wished to marry the beautiful, alluring and elegant Lady Ashara Dayne.
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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: AlwaysSomeoneBetter:
** Despite giving herself airs as a highborn lady of legitimate birth, Sansa is painfully aware that Lyarra is more beautiful and talented than her.
** Catelynalso knows very well that Ned wished to marry the beautiful, alluring and elegant Lady Ashara Dayne.
** Despite giving herself airs as a highborn lady of legitimate birth, Sansa is painfully aware that Lyarra is more beautiful and talented than her.
** Catelyn
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* TheHighQueen: [[spoiler: Visenya will be one in the future.]]
* HybridPower: Lyarra's {{Seer|s}} ability is especially strong due to her Stark blood giving her the greensight and her Targaryean blood giving her Dragon dreams. She hasn't realized yet and thinks all her magic comes from her father's side.
** The bond between her and Azantys comes from her Valyrian heritage, but is being strengthened by her skinchanging abilities. She realises this is actually quite dangerous, since if either one of them experiences a strong emotion, they could end up overwhelming each other.
* HybridPower: Lyarra's {{Seer|s}} ability is especially strong due to her Stark blood giving her the greensight and her Targaryean blood giving her Dragon dreams. She hasn't realized yet and thinks all her magic comes from her father's side.
** The bond between her and Azantys comes from her Valyrian heritage, but is being strengthened by her skinchanging abilities. She realises this is actually quite dangerous, since if either one of them experiences a strong emotion, they could end up overwhelming each other.
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* HybridPower: Lyarra's {{Seer|s}} ability is especially strong due to her Stark blood giving her the greensight and her Targaryean blood giving her Dragon dreams. She hasn't realized yet and thinks all her magic comes from her father's
** The
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* LikeFatherLikeSon: Aegon and Rhaegar both are/were AmazonChaser.
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* LikeFatherLikeSon: Aegon and Rhaegar both are/were AmazonChaser.{{Amazon Chaser}}s.
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* MeaningfulName: Azantys means warrior/knight in High Valyrian and Lyarra/Visenya notes that he will have to fight to earn back Aegon's throne.
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* MeaningfulName: MeaningfulName:
** Azantys means warrior/knight in High Valyrian and Lyarra/Visenya notes that he will have to fight to earn back Aegon's throne.
** Azantys means warrior/knight in High Valyrian and Lyarra/Visenya notes that he will have to fight to earn back Aegon's throne.
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* NotSoAboveItAll: Lyarra/Visenya imagines gloating to Catelyn that as the one that brought the dragons back from the dead has guaranteed her a name in history for centuries, while Catelyn's children would be lucky to even be remembered a few decades after their deaths.
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* NotSoAboveItAll: NotSoAboveItAll:
** Lyarra/Visenya imagines gloating to Catelyn that as the one that brought the dragons back from the dead has guaranteed her a name in history for centuries, while Catelyn's children would be lucky to even be remembered a few decades after their deaths.
** Lyarra/Visenya imagines gloating to Catelyn that as the one that brought the dragons back from the dead has guaranteed her a name in history for centuries, while Catelyn's children would be lucky to even be remembered a few decades after their deaths.
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--> “All hail Her Grace, Visenya of Houses Targaryen and Stark, First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals and the First Men, Lady of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm,” Monford Velaryon declared, with all of the fervent belief of a man whose loyalty to his Queen will never be questioned or swayed.
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** [[spoiler: Seeing that Visenya will be Aegon's queen in the future, Catelyn will really end up having tons of regrets.]]
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** [[spoiler: Seeing [[spoiler:Seeing that Visenya will be Aegon's queen in the future, Catelyn will really end up having tons of regrets.]]
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* DragonRider: Azantys is too small right now but Visenya will ride him once he is big enough to carry her. [[spoiler: A flashforward has one little girl witnessing Queen Visenya riding her dragon over the castle.]]
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* DragonRider: Azantys is too small right now but Visenya will ride him once he is big enough to carry her. [[spoiler: A [[spoiler:A flashforward has one little girl witnessing Queen Visenya riding her dragon over the castle.]]
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* SecretKeeper: Arya knows that Lyarra is Visenya Targaryen and that she has hatched Azantys. She also is the only one other than Lyarra/Visenya to know that Azantys is capable of speech.
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* SecretKeeper: SecretKeeper:
** Arya knows that Lyarra is Visenya Targaryen and that she has hatched Azantys. She also is the only one other than Lyarra/Visenya to know that Azantys is capable ofspeech.speech.
** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept LockedOutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
** Arya knows that Lyarra is Visenya Targaryen and that she has hatched Azantys. She also is the only one other than Lyarra/Visenya to know that Azantys is capable of
** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept LockedOutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
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* TheUnfavorite: Catelyn fears that her children are this for Ned. Ned was pretty much forced to marry her when he was in love with another woman that as a second son he would have been free to marry. It drives her cruelty toward Lyarra.
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* TheUnfavorite: TheUnfavorite:
** Catelyn fears that her children are this for Ned. Ned was pretty much forced to marry her when he was in love with another woman that as a second son he would have been free to marry. It drives her cruelty toward Lyarra.
** Catelyn fears that her children are this for Ned. Ned was pretty much forced to marry her when he was in love with another woman that as a second son he would have been free to marry. It drives her cruelty toward Lyarra.
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These examples of Surprisingly Realistic Outcome seem to violate at least one of these rules, which disqualifies them: No character reactions (characters get angry, don't forgive, don't change their personality instantly, etc.); Too fantastical (depends on the properties of magic, powers, sci-fi tech, monsters, etc.); Not surprising (a character was warned about the outcome, it's used to provide Karma or An Aesop, or it simply follows normal conventions for this genre or medium); Plot happens (the example only describes an event, but not why audiences would expect a different, unrealistic outcome); Not an outcome (a character just explains why something wouldn't work as expected); More of a Deconstruction (the event has major, lasting effects on the plot, make something more realistic, but not completely realistic, or a parody/fanwork applies realistic consequences to the events of a different work); or fits better under a different trope. See the trope's definition for more details.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: After hatching Azantys Lyarra/Visenya no longer can stay in Winterfell.
** Constantly wishing an innocent child gone in both senses of the word and making no secret of your irrational hatred toward her, can make people look at you with suspicion when said child disappears, right Catelyn?
*** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept LockedOutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stannis once he has a Targaryen heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disappearance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
** Constantly wishing an innocent child gone in both senses of the word and making no secret of your irrational hatred toward her, can make people look at you with suspicion when said child disappears, right Catelyn?
*** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept LockedOutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stannis once he has a Targaryen heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disappearance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
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* AdultFear: Your niece/adoptive daughter disappearing without any idea of what happened to her. It breaks Ned and causes him to age ten years overnight. It is even worse when it becomes clear that she left on her own volition, causing Ned to nearly have a breakdown over failing on his promise to Lyarra's mother to keep her daughter safe.
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* AdultFear: Your niece/adoptive daughter disapearing without any idea of what happened to her. It breaks Ned and causes him to age ten years overnight. It is even worse when it becomes clear that she left on her own volition, causing Ned to nearly have a breakdown over failing on his promise to Lyarra's mother to keep her daughter safe.
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* AdultFear: Your niece/adoptive daughter disapearing disappearing without any idea of what happened to her. It breaks Ned and causes him to age ten years overnight. It is even worse when it becomes clear that she left on her own volition, causing Ned to nearly have a breakdown over failing on his promise to Lyarra's mother to keep her daughter safe.
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* DiseaseBleach: Visenya's disapearance causes Ned Stark to age ten years overnight.
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* DiseaseBleach: Visenya's disapearance disappearance causes Ned Stark to age ten years overnight.
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* RealityEnsues: After hatching Azantys Lyarra/Visenya no longer can stay in Winterfell.
** Constantly wishing an innocent child gone in both senses of the word and making no secret of your irrational hatred toward her, can make people look at you with suspicion when said child disapears, right Catelyn?
*** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept LockedOutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stannis once he has a Targaryen heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disaperance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
** Constantly wishing an innocent child gone in both senses of the word and making no secret of your irrational hatred toward her, can make people look at you with suspicion when said child disapears, right Catelyn?
*** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept LockedOutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stannis once he has a Targaryen heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disaperance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: After hatching Azantys Lyarra/Visenya no longer can stay in Winterfell.
** Constantly wishing an innocent child gone in both senses of the word and making no secret of your irrational hatred toward her, can make people look at you with suspicion when said child disappears, right Catelyn?
*** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept LockedOutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stannis once he has a Targaryen heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disappearance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
** Constantly wishing an innocent child gone in both senses of the word and making no secret of your irrational hatred toward her, can make people look at you with suspicion when said child disappears, right Catelyn?
*** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept LockedOutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stannis once he has a Targaryen heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disappearance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
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* HybridPower: Lyarra's {{Seer}} ability is especially strong due to her Stark blood giving her the greensight and her Targaryean blood giving her Dragon dreams. She hasn't realized yet and thinks all her magic comes from her father's side.
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* HybridPower: Lyarra's {{Seer}} {{Seer|s}} ability is especially strong due to her Stark blood giving her the greensight and her Targaryean blood giving her Dragon dreams. She hasn't realized yet and thinks all her magic comes from her father's side.
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* {{Seer}}: Thanks to her First Men and Valyrian heritages Lyarra is an exceptionally talented one.
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* {{Seer}}: {{Seers}}: Thanks to her First Men and Valyrian heritages Lyarra is an exceptionally talented one.
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* PrettyPrincessPowerhouse: Lyarra/Visenya, she is beautiful, gifted and talented at magic, a future dragonrider, a budding ActionGirl, and was born a royal princess. Also Lyanna, who married Rhaegar, proved her ActionGirl credentials by defeating three knights at jousting and beating up their squires prior to marrying a prince.
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* PrettyPrincessPowerhouse: Lyarra/Visenya, she is beautiful, gifted and talented at magic, a future dragonrider, a budding ActionGirl, and was born a royal princess. Also Lyanna, who married Rhaegar, proved her ActionGirl credentials by defeating three knights at jousting and beating up their squires prior to marrying a prince.
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** The bond between her and Azantys comes from her Valyrian heritage, but is being strengthened by her skinchanging abilities. She realises this is actually quite dangerous, since if either one of them experiences a strong emotion, they could end up overwhelming each other.
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* PrettyPrincessPowerhouse: Lyarra/Visenya, she is beautiful, gifted and talented at magic, a future dragonrider, a budding ActionGirl, and was born a royal princess. Also Lyanna, who proved her ActionGirl credentials by defeating three knights at jousting and beating up their squires prior to marrying a prince.
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* PrettyPrincessPowerhouse: Lyarra/Visenya, she is beautiful, gifted and talented at magic, a future dragonrider, a budding ActionGirl, and was born a royal princess. Also Lyanna, who married Rhaegar, proved her ActionGirl credentials by defeating three knights at jousting and beating up their squires prior to marrying a prince.
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* DragonRider: Azantys is too small right now but Visenya will ride him once he is big enough to carry her. [[spoiler: A flashforward has one little girl witnessing Queen Visenya ridinh hee dragon over the castle.]]
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* DragonRider: Azantys is too small right now but Visenya will ride him once he is big enough to carry her. [[spoiler: A flashforward has one little girl witnessing Queen Visenya ridinh hee riding her dragon over the castle.]]
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* BondCreatures: Azantys is Lyarra/Visenya's. [[WordOfGod says 5 other people will hatch and bond with their own dragons. These are Aegon, Daenarys, Viserys, Shireen and Tyrion.]]
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* BondCreatures: Azantys is Lyarra/Visenya's. [[WordOfGod [[spoiler: WordOfGod says 5 other people will hatch and bond with their own dragons. These are Aegon, Daenarys, Viserys, Shireen and Tyrion.]]
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* DragonRider: Azantys is too small right now but Visenya will ride him once he is big enough to carry her.
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* DragonRider: Azantys is too small right now but Visenya will ride him once he is big enough to carry her. [[spoiler: A flashforward has one little girl witnessing Queen Visenya ridinh hee dragon over the castle.]]
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* BondCreatures: Azantys is Lyarra/Visenya's.
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* BondCreatures: Azantys is Lyarra/Visenya's. [[WordOfGod says 5 other people will hatch and bond with their own dragons. These are Aegon, Daenarys, Viserys, Shireen and Tyrion.]]
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* NeverLiveItDown: According to WordOfGod, Aegon will never let Rolly forget that it was his TemptingFate that led to Aegon falling in love.
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* OnceDoneNeverForgotten: According to WordOfGod, Aegon will never let Rolly forget that it was his TemptingFate that led to Aegon falling in love.
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* RealityEnsues: After hatching Azantys Lyarra/Visenya no longer can stay in Winterfell.
** Constantly wishing an innocent child gone in both senses of the word and making no secret of your irrational hatred toward her, can make people look at you with suspicion when said child disapears, right Catelyn?
*** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept OutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stannis once he has a Targaryen heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disaperance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
** Constantly wishing an innocent child gone in both senses of the word and making no secret of your irrational hatred toward her, can make people look at you with suspicion when said child disapears, right Catelyn?
*** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept OutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stannis once he has a Targaryen heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disaperance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
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** Constantly wishing an innocent child gone in both senses of the word and making no secret of your irrational hatred toward her, can make people look at you with suspicion when said child disapears, right Catelyn?
*** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept OutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stannis once he has a Targaryen heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disaperance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
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* RealityEnsues: After hatching Azantys Lyarra/Visenya no longer can stay in Winterfell.
** Constantly wishing an innocent child gone in both senses of the word and making no secret of your irrational hatred toward her, can make people look at you with suspicion when said child disapears, right Catelyn?
*** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept LockedOutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stannis once he has a Targaryen heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disaperance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
** Constantly wishing an innocent child gone in both senses of the word and making no secret of your irrational hatred toward her, can make people look at you with suspicion when said child disapears, right Catelyn?
*** Ned tells Robb about Visenya's true origin and makes him swear an oath to declare for her when the time comes. Catelyn is kept LockedOutOfTheLoop because neither of them can trust her with Lyarra/Visenya's safety and best interests.
** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stannis once he has a Targaryen heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disaperance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
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* TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivalry: One sided on Sansa's part. Lyarra is more beautiful, better at music and far smarter. Lyarra on her part seems to have given Sansa up as a lost cause,when the latter distances herself from her.
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* TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivalry: One sided on Sansa's part. Lyarra is more beautiful, better at music and far smarter. Lyarra on her part seems to have given Sansa up as a lost cause,when cause, when the latter distances herself becomes distant from her.
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* MeaningfulName: Azantys means warrior/knight in High Valyrian and Lyarra/Visenya notes that he will have to fight to earn back Aegon's throne. The first Visenya was an expert warrior and adept sorceress. Her modern namesake is slowly budding into one.
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* MeaningfulName: Azantys means warrior/knight in High Valyrian and Lyarra/Visenya notes that he will have to fight to earn back Aegon's throne.
** The first Visenya was an expert warrior and adept sorceress. Her modern namesake is slowly budding into one.
** The first Visenya was an expert warrior and adept sorceress. Her modern namesake is slowly budding into one.
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* AdultFear: Your niece/adoptive daughter disapearing without a trace of what happened to her. It breaks Ned and causes him to age ten years overnight. It is even worse when it becomes clear that she left on her own volition, causing Ned to nearly have a breakdown over failing on his promise to Lyarra's mother to keep her daughter safe.
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* AdultFear: Your niece/adoptive daughter disapearing without a trace any idea of what happened to her. It breaks Ned and causes him to age ten years overnight. It is even worse when it becomes clear that she left on her own volition, causing Ned to nearly have a breakdown over failing on his promise to Lyarra's mother to keep her daughter safe.
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* AttractiveBentGender: Lyarra disguised as Lyle Snow was offered marriage to an innkeepers daughter.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: A rather downplayed one but the moment Lyarra Visenya shows Azantys to Lord Velaryon he, Aurane and the random guard in the room immediately fall in their knees and proclaim her the rightful Queen. Visenya ruins it by making them rise and telling them of Aegon's survival.
* BigBrotherInstinct: Robb has in in spades especially toward Lyarra. When he incorrectly suspects that her flight might have been due to have been dishonoured and impregnated he immediately vows to kill the man that did so.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: A rather downplayed one but the moment Lyarra Visenya shows Azantys to Lord Velaryon he, Aurane and the random guard in the room immediately fall in their knees and proclaim her the rightful Queen. Visenya ruins it by making them rise and telling them of Aegon's survival.
* BigBrotherInstinct: Robb has in in spades especially toward Lyarra. When he incorrectly suspects that her flight might have been due to have been dishonoured and impregnated he immediately vows to kill the man that did so.
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* AttractiveBentGender: Lyarra disguised as Lyle Snow was offered marriage to an innkeepers innkeeper's daughter.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: A rather downplayed one but the momentLyarra Visenya Lyarra/Visenya shows Azantys to Lord Velaryon he, Aurane and the random guard in the room immediately fall in their knees and proclaim her the rightful Queen. Visenya ruins it by making them rise and telling them of Aegon's survival.
* BigBrotherInstinct: Robb has in inspades spades, especially toward Lyarra. When he incorrectly suspects that her flight might have been due to have been dishonoured and impregnated he immediately vows to kill the man that did so.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: A rather downplayed one but the moment
* BigBrotherInstinct: Robb has in in
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* ConflictingLoyalties: Lyara/Visenya chooses Azantys over her Stark family. Ned choses his niece over his lifelong friend.
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* ConflictingLoyalties: Lyara/Visenya chooses Azantys over her Stark family. Ned choses his niece over his lifelong friend.friend when he tells Robb to declare for her if she takes the throne.
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* TheCutie: Lyarra/Visenya's baby dragon Azantys. He is small, very beautiful in the colors of the dusky sky and can speak.
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* TheCutie: Lyarra/Visenya's baby dragon Azantys. He is small, very beautiful in the colors of the dusky sky and can speak.is constantly curious.
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* ExactWords: Lyarra sent a letter to Winterfell in which she explains she left to protect "a tiny life", whom she loves with all her might. Robb briefly goes into a temper, believing his bastard sister fell ''pregnant''.
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* ExactWords: Lyarra sent a letter to Winterfell in which she explains she left to protect "a tiny life", whom she loves with all her might. Robb briefly goes into a temper, believing his bastard sister fell ''pregnant''.pregnant.
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* TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivalry: One sided on Sansa's part. Lyarra is more beautiful, better at music and far smarter. Lyarra on her part seems to have given Sansa up as a lost cause.
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* TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivalry: One sided on Sansa's part. Lyarra is more beautiful, better at music and far smarter. Lyarra on her part seems to have given Sansa up as a lost cause.cause,when the latter distances herself from her.
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* TheHighQueen: Visenya will be one in the future.
* HybridPower: Lyarra's {{Seer}} ability is especially strong due to her Stark blood giving her the greensight and her Targaryean blood giving her Dragon dreams.
* HybridPower: Lyarra's {{Seer}} ability is especially strong due to her Stark blood giving her the greensight and her Targaryean blood giving her Dragon dreams.
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* TheHighQueen: [[spoiler: Visenya will be one in the future.
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* HybridPower: Lyarra's {{Seer}} ability is especially strong due to her Stark blood giving her the greensight and her Targaryean blood giving her Dragon dreams. She hasn't realized yet and thinks all her magic comes from her father's side.
* HybridPower: Lyarra's {{Seer}} ability is especially strong due to her Stark blood giving her the greensight and her Targaryean blood giving her Dragon dreams. She hasn't realized yet and thinks all her magic comes from her father's side.
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* MeaningfulName: Azantys means warrior/solder in High Valyrian and Lyarra/Visenya notes that he will have to fight to earn back Aegon's throne. The first Visenya was an expert warrior and adept sorceress. Her modern namesake is slowly budding into one.
* RealityEnsues: After hatching Azantys Lyarra/Visenya no longer can stay in Winterfel.
* RealityEnsues: After hatching Azantys Lyarra/Visenya no longer can stay in Winterfel.
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* MeaningfulName: Azantys means warrior/solder warrior/knight in High Valyrian and Lyarra/Visenya notes that he will have to fight to earn back Aegon's throne. The first Visenya was an expert warrior and adept sorceress. Her modern namesake is slowly budding into one.
* RealityEnsues: After hatching Azantys Lyarra/Visenya no longer can stay inWinterfel.Winterfell.
* RealityEnsues: After hatching Azantys Lyarra/Visenya no longer can stay in
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** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stanis once he has a Targaryan heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
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** While passing through the Riverlands, Lyarra sees just how badly the current regime is treating the Targaryen loyalists. Lord Velaryon has little trouble convincing his fellow crownland lords to support his schemes to make life difficult for Stanis Stannis once he has a Targaryan Targaryen heir in his safekeeping and a hope for a restoration.
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* NeverLiveItDown: According to WordOfGod Aegon will never let Rolly forget that it was his TemptingFate that led to Aegon falling in love.
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* NeverLiveItDown: According to WordOfGod WordOfGod, Aegon will never let Rolly forget that it was his TemptingFate that led to Aegon falling in love.
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* NotSoAboveItAll: Lyarra/Visenya imagines gloating to Catelyn that as the one that brought the dragons back from the dead has guaranteed her a name in history for centuries. While Catelyn's children would be lucky to even be remembered a few decades after their deaths.
* PrettyPrincessPowerhouse: Lyarra/Visenya, she is beautiful, gifted and talented at magic, a dragonrider, a budding ActionGirl, and was born a royal princess. Also Lyanna, who proved her ActionGirl credentials by defeating three knights at jousting and beating up their squires prior to marrying a prince.
* PrettyPrincessPowerhouse: Lyarra/Visenya, she is beautiful, gifted and talented at magic, a dragonrider, a budding ActionGirl, and was born a royal princess. Also Lyanna, who proved her ActionGirl credentials by defeating three knights at jousting and beating up their squires prior to marrying a prince.
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* NotSoAboveItAll: Lyarra/Visenya imagines gloating to Catelyn that as the one that brought the dragons back from the dead has guaranteed her a name in history for centuries. While centuries, while Catelyn's children would be lucky to even be remembered a few decades after their deaths.
** The first time Lyarra sees Aegon in a dream, she is jealous that he is even prettier than she is.
* PrettyPrincessPowerhouse: Lyarra/Visenya, she is beautiful, gifted and talented at magic, a future dragonrider, a budding ActionGirl, and was born a royal princess. Also Lyanna, who proved her ActionGirl credentials by defeating three knights at jousting and beating up their squires prior to marrying a prince.
** The first time Lyarra sees Aegon in a dream, she is jealous that he is even prettier than she is.
* PrettyPrincessPowerhouse: Lyarra/Visenya, she is beautiful, gifted and talented at magic, a future dragonrider, a budding ActionGirl, and was born a royal princess. Also Lyanna, who proved her ActionGirl credentials by defeating three knights at jousting and beating up their squires prior to marrying a prince.
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* ProperLady: Lady Sylvia Velaryon, a gentle, sweet woman with perfect manners and plenty of kindness and compassion. Catelyn appears to be one but is a malicious, petty shrew.
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* ProperLady: Lady Sylvia Velaryon, a gentle, sweet woman with perfect manners and plenty of kindness and compassion. Catelyn appears to be one but is actually a malicious, petty shrew.
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* {{Seer}}: Thanks to her Firstmen and Valyrian heritages Lyarra is an exceptionally talented one.
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* {{Seer}}: Thanks to her Firstmen First Men and Valyrian heritages Lyarra is an exceptionally talented one.
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* TechnicolorEyes: Lyarra had light purple eyes, so does Aegon.
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* TechnicolorEyes: Lyarra had has light purple eyes, so does Aegon.
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* ThickerThanWater: After Visenya sends a letter to Ned informing him that she is aware of her true lineage and that she has hatched a dragon, Ned makes Robb promise that in event of his untimely dead before the time comes, Robb is to declare for Lyarra aka Visenya Targaryen. He does this without a hint of ConflictingLoyalties due to Robert.
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* ThickerThanWater: After Visenya sends a letter to Ned informing him that she is aware of her true lineage and that she has hatched a dragon, Ned makes Robb promise that in event of his untimely dead before the time comes, Robb is to declare for Lyarra aka Visenya Targaryen. He does this without a hint of ConflictingLoyalties due to Robert.
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** Sansa knows that she is Lyarra's least favorite sister, since Lyarra would have moved heaven and earth to ensure that Arya does not turn against her but did not consider Sansa worth fighting.
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** Sansa knows that she is Lyarra's least favorite sister, since Lyarra would have moved heaven and earth to ensure that Arya does not turn against her but did not consider Sansa worth fighting.fighting for.
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: The one thing Catelyn desperately wants is for Lyarra to leave Winterfel, when the hidden princess does so, Ned is left utterly broken and depressed. All the children are upset and miss her in different ways and people whisper that Catelyn might have done something to the young girl.
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: The one thing Catelyn desperately wants is for Lyarra to leave Winterfel, Winterfell, when the hidden princess does so, Ned is left utterly broken and depressed. All the children are upset and miss her in different ways and people whisper that Catelyn might have done something to the young girl.
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* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: A rather downplayed one but the moment Lyarra Visenya shows Azantys to Lord Velaryon he, Aurane and the random guards in the room immediately fall in their knees and proclaim her the rightful Queen. Visenya ruins it by making them rise and telling them of Aegon's survival.
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* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: A rather downplayed one but the moment Lyarra Visenya shows Azantys to Lord Velaryon he, Aurane and the random guards guard in the room immediately fall in their knees and proclaim her the rightful Queen. Visenya ruins it by making them rise and telling them of Aegon's survival.
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* {{Foil}}: Visenya is a practical, no nonsense girl who does not expect much from life. Sansa is a head in the clouds dreamer who expects her life to turn out like a song. Yet, Visenya is the one that practically checks off all the common fairly tale tropes being LostOrphanedRoyalty, TheChosenOne, and the recipient of LoveAtFirstSight from the [[RightfulKingReturns Rightful Targaryen King]]. Sansa, if her storyline is to follow cannon will be a deconstruction of PrincessClassic.
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* {{Foil}}: Visenya is a practical, no nonsense girl who does not expect much from life. Sansa is a head in the clouds dreamer who expects her life to turn out like a song. Yet, Visenya is the one that practically checks off all the common fairly tale tropes being LostOrphanedRoyalty, TheChosenOne, and the recipient of LoveAtFirstSight from the [[RightfulKingReturns Rightful rightful Targaryen King]].king]]. Sansa, if her storyline is to follow cannon will be a deconstruction of PrincessClassic.
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* TheGoodKing: A glimpse into the future shows that Aegon will be known as King Aegon the Just and Lyarra as Queen Visenya the Wise.
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* TheGoodKing: [[spoiler: A glimpse into the future shows that Aegon will be known as King Aegon the Just and Lyarra as Queen Visenya the Wise.]]
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* LockedOutOfTheLoop: From the Starks that are old enough to have agency Catelyn and Sansa are the only ones not to know that Lyarra is really Visenya Targaryen and that she has hatched a dragon. Lyarra tells Arya and Ned tells Robb.
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* LockedOutOfTheLoop: From the Starks that are old enough to have agency agency, Catelyn and Sansa are the only ones not to know that Lyarra is really Visenya Targaryen and that she has hatched a dragon. Lyarra tells Arya and Ned tells Robb.
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** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger ger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disaperance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
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** Lyarra did not consider Sansa worth the effort of changing her mind after Catelyn and the septa turned the younger ger girl against her. Sansa comes to regret it, and even prior to Lyarra's disaperance it did hurt her to know that she was not worth the effort.
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* NotMeThisTime: Due to her very public hatred of Lyarra, people suspect Catelyn being behind her disappearance. She is not.
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* NotMeThisTime: Due to her very public hatred of Lyarra, people suspect Catelyn being behind responsible for her disappearance. She is not.
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* SecretKeeper: Arya know that Lyarra is Visenya Targaryen and that she has hatched Azantys. She also is the only one other than Lyarra/Visenya to know that Azantys is capable of speech.
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* SecretKeeper: Arya know knows that Lyarra is Visenya Targaryen and that she has hatched Azantys. She also is the only one other than Lyarra/Visenya to know that Azantys is capable of speech.
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** Sansa knows that she is Lyarra's least favorite sister. Since Lyarra would have moved heaven and earth to ensure that Arya does not turn against her but did not consider Sansa worth fighting.
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** Sansa knows that she is Lyarra's least favorite sister. Since sister, since Lyarra would have moved heaven and earth to ensure that Arya does not turn against her but did not consider Sansa worth fighting.
