History FandomRivalry / Music

21st Feb '18 6:26:03 PM nombretomado
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** The biggest split is pro-Creator/RichardWagner vs. anti-Richard Wagner. Wagner fans cite his operas as being magnificently orchestrated, highly expressive, having intricate plots, and push the limits of singing ability to the max. Anti-Wagnerists claim that his operas are overly bombastic, histrionic, needlessly complex in terms of both singing and plot, and JUST TOO DAMN LONG.

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** The biggest split is pro-Creator/RichardWagner pro-Music/RichardWagner vs. anti-Richard Wagner. Wagner fans cite his operas as being magnificently orchestrated, highly expressive, having intricate plots, and push the limits of singing ability to the max. Anti-Wagnerists claim that his operas are overly bombastic, histrionic, needlessly complex in terms of both singing and plot, and JUST TOO DAMN LONG.
21st Feb '18 7:08:15 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* Similar to the Suffocation example, the Music/MorbidAngel fandom has fans of David Vincent versus fans of Steve Tucker. Vincent fans see Tucker as a completely generic frontman with no distinctive identity or personality and feel that Vincent, washed-up and ''clearly'' not into death metal as he may be, is still the rightful frontman and that his absence from Morbid Angel is as good a sign as any that Trey should just hang it up and call it a day. Tucker fans, meanwhile, see Vincent as a once-great frontman who fell from grace, returned to Morbid Angel as a grotesque parody of himself for all the wrong reasons, and then proceeded to almost destroy the band before Trey let him go for their own mutual good, and they see Tucker as someone who wasn't given a fair chance the first time around who has more than proven his worth as a frontman with the new lineup.

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* Similar to the Suffocation example, the Music/MorbidAngel fandom has fans of David Vincent versus fans of Steve Tucker. Vincent fans see Tucker as a completely generic frontman with no distinctive identity or personality and feel that Vincent, washed-up and ''clearly'' not into death metal as he may be, is still the rightful frontman and that his absence from Morbid Angel is as good a sign as any that Trey should just hang it up and call it a day. Tucker fans, meanwhile, see Vincent as a once-great frontman who fell from grace, returned to Morbid Angel as a grotesque parody of himself for all the wrong reasons, and then proceeded to almost destroy the band before Trey let him go for their own mutual good, and they see Tucker as someone who wasn't given a fair chance the first time around who has more than proven his worth as a frontman with the new lineup.lineup.
* Fans of Music/TheAgonist versus fans of Alissa White-Gluz. Fans of Alissa see her old bandmates as fairweather friends who threw her under the bus the minute that she became inconvenient and then attempted to sully her name with a heavily revised retelling of events as retaliation for her calling them out, while fans of The Agonist see her as a pompous, egomaniacal asshole who treated the band like it was a solo project, used it as a ticket to personal gain, firmly showed where her priorities were when she hopped on the gravy train that was Music/ArchEnemy and then decided that she wanted to have her cake and eat it too in a way that jeopardized The Agonist's survival, and then had the nerve to play the victim when her old bandmates cut her loose for the sake of their own survival.
29th Jan '18 8:22:20 PM nombretomado
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** Though not as big as the above, there's also Music/{{Wolfmother}} fans vs. fans of pretty much any MikePatton project: It can all be traced back to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THV23g3z5qU one interview with Patton]].

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** Though not as big as the above, there's also Music/{{Wolfmother}} fans vs. fans of pretty much any MikePatton Music/MikePatton project: It can all be traced back to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THV23g3z5qU one interview with Patton]].
14th Dec '17 7:03:05 AM Kitchen90
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* East 17 versus Music/TakeThat. The main rivals for the title of top British BoyBand in the 1990s, East 17 were London hard-boys (their name comes from the postcode for Walthamstow) with mild R'N'B overtones, while Take That were northerners but seen as boys-next-door with a more traditional pop style. Curiously paralleled the Beatles Vs. Stones rivalry in sixties rock.

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* East 17 versus Music/TakeThat.Music/TakeThatBand. The main rivals for the title of top British BoyBand in the 1990s, East 17 were London hard-boys (their name comes from the postcode for Walthamstow) with mild R'N'B overtones, while Take That were northerners but seen as boys-next-door with a more traditional pop style. Curiously paralleled the Beatles Vs. Stones rivalry in sixties rock.
20th Nov '17 10:13:40 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* Within the Music/{{Suffocation}} fandom, fans of Terrance Hobbs versus fans of Mike Smith. Hobbs fans see Smith as an arrogant, toxic bully who was only in Suffocation for the sake of his own (enormous) ego and who desperately needed to go before he completely destroyed their ability to function as a band. Smith fans, meanwhile, see Hobbs as a drunken manchild who treats Suffocation as one giant party that he's turned into a FranchiseZombie and who has to hire a bunch of people young enough to be his kids because he stopped aging mentally in his early twenties and doesn't want to grow up.

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* Within the Music/{{Suffocation}} fandom, fans of Terrance Hobbs versus fans of Mike Smith. Hobbs fans see Smith as an arrogant, toxic bully who was only in Suffocation for the sake of his own (enormous) ego and who desperately needed to go before he completely destroyed their ability to function as a band. Smith fans, meanwhile, see Hobbs as a drunken manchild who treats Suffocation as one giant party that he's turned into a FranchiseZombie and who has to hire a bunch of people young enough to be his kids because he stopped aging mentally in his early twenties and doesn't want to grow up.up.
* Similar to the Suffocation example, the Music/MorbidAngel fandom has fans of David Vincent versus fans of Steve Tucker. Vincent fans see Tucker as a completely generic frontman with no distinctive identity or personality and feel that Vincent, washed-up and ''clearly'' not into death metal as he may be, is still the rightful frontman and that his absence from Morbid Angel is as good a sign as any that Trey should just hang it up and call it a day. Tucker fans, meanwhile, see Vincent as a once-great frontman who fell from grace, returned to Morbid Angel as a grotesque parody of himself for all the wrong reasons, and then proceeded to almost destroy the band before Trey let him go for their own mutual good, and they see Tucker as someone who wasn't given a fair chance the first time around who has more than proven his worth as a frontman with the new lineup.
11th Nov '17 6:28:28 PM HasturHasturHastur
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** In the niche genre of a capella music with humorous lyrics, two bands emerged from the city of Cologne almost at the same time during the 1990s, ''Wise Guys'' and ''Basta'', leading to a lot of arguments about every conceivable quality, from singing to humor and/or intelligence of lyrics. It got a bit one sided after ''Wise Guys'' made it big. Again, as so often, the bands themselves got along quite well.

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** In the niche genre of a capella music with humorous lyrics, two bands emerged from the city of Cologne almost at the same time during the 1990s, ''Wise Guys'' and ''Basta'', leading to a lot of arguments about every conceivable quality, from singing to humor and/or intelligence of lyrics. It got a bit one sided after ''Wise Guys'' made it big. Again, as so often, the bands themselves got along quite well.well.
* Within the Music/{{Suffocation}} fandom, fans of Terrance Hobbs versus fans of Mike Smith. Hobbs fans see Smith as an arrogant, toxic bully who was only in Suffocation for the sake of his own (enormous) ego and who desperately needed to go before he completely destroyed their ability to function as a band. Smith fans, meanwhile, see Hobbs as a drunken manchild who treats Suffocation as one giant party that he's turned into a FranchiseZombie and who has to hire a bunch of people young enough to be his kids because he stopped aging mentally in his early twenties and doesn't want to grow up.
10th Nov '17 1:17:02 PM Ulkomaalainen
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* This trope is OlderThanSteam. In the early 1770s, Paris was a warzone between fans of two composers, the german Christoph Gluck and the Italian Niccolo Piccini. It went so far that people would introduce themselves with their preferred composer's name rather than their own, and street fights between Gluckists and Piccininists were common. Ironically, Gluck and Piccini were good friends. Creator/BenjaminFranklin, who was in Paris at the time, wrote home:

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* This trope is OlderThanSteam. In the early 1770s, Paris was a warzone between fans of two composers, the german German Christoph Gluck and the Italian Niccolo Piccini. It went so far that people would introduce themselves with their preferred composer's name rather than their own, and street fights between Gluckists and Piccininists were common. Ironically, Gluck and Piccini were good friends. Creator/BenjaminFranklin, who was in Paris at the time, wrote home:



** If asked about the other band in interviews, both bands tend to deny any rivalries.

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** If asked about the other band in interviews, both bands tend to deny any rivalries.rivalries.
* A couple appear in local markets, e. g. in Germany.
** While "mainstream punk" bands ''Die Ärzte'' and ''Die toten Hosen'' get along quite well, their respective fandoms don't, with the latter accusing the former of immature teenie music and the former claiming the latter "sold out".
** In the niche genre of a capella music with humorous lyrics, two bands emerged from the city of Cologne almost at the same time during the 1990s, ''Wise Guys'' and ''Basta'', leading to a lot of arguments about every conceivable quality, from singing to humor and/or intelligence of lyrics. It got a bit one sided after ''Wise Guys'' made it big. Again, as so often, the bands themselves got along quite well.
10th Nov '17 1:09:04 PM Ulkomaalainen
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** For a while(about 2002-2004), Eminem vs. Music/{{JaRule}}, which was an extension of the fandom rivalry between [[Music/FiftyCent 50 Cent]] and Ja Rule.

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** For a while(about while (about 2002-2004), Eminem vs. Music/{{JaRule}}, which was an extension of the fandom rivalry between [[Music/FiftyCent 50 Cent]] and Ja Rule.
3rd Nov '17 3:25:13 AM Jackets
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** Nowadays it is [[{{Music/BTS}} BTS]] fandom that EXO fandom have a bad relationship with. After BTS starting to rise from 2015, the fandoms started to gain rivalry because the two groups are compared with. The way that the two groups are always nominated the same awards doesn't help. To make it worse, BTS group leader Rapmonster accidentally posted a derp picture of EXO member Kai, which made the fans exploded, even if he apologized quickly.

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** Nowadays it is [[{{Music/BTS}} BTS]] fandom that EXO fandom have a bad relationship with. After BTS starting to rise from 2015, the fandoms started to fandom gain rivalry because the two groups are compared with. with, The way fact that the two groups are always [[AwardSnub nominated the same awards awards]] doesn't help. To make it worse, BTS group leader Rapmonster accidentally posted a derp picture of EXO member Kai, which made the fans exploded, even if he apologized quickly.
3rd Nov '17 3:20:51 AM Jackets
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* An example in K-pop is [[{{Music/EXO}} EXO]] vs. BAP. To add fuel to the fire, both groups were candidates for the MAMA 2012 rookie award. Neither group won, which resulted in both fandoms having a rivalry with fans of the indie group Busker Busker, for a few months. The rivalry didn't really last because most of Busker Busker's fans are Korean, while the EXO and BAP fans who are at war are foreign.

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* An example in K-pop is used to be [[{{Music/EXO}} EXO]] vs. BAP. To add fuel to the fire, both groups were candidates for the MAMA 2012 rookie award. Neither group won, which resulted in both fandoms having a rivalry with fans of the indie group Busker Busker, for a few months. The rivalry didn't really last because most of Busker Busker's fans are Korean, while the EXO and BAP fans who are at war are foreign.foreign.
** Nowadays it is [[{{Music/BTS}} BTS]] fandom that EXO fandom have a bad relationship with. After BTS starting to rise from 2015, the fandoms started to gain rivalry because the two groups are compared with. The way that the two groups are always nominated the same awards doesn't help. To make it worse, BTS group leader Rapmonster accidentally posted a derp picture of EXO member Kai, which made the fans exploded, even if he apologized quickly.
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