History ExecutiveMeddling / ComicBooks

14th May '16 10:49:05 AM EDP
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* Done in-universe in a [[ComicBook/MickeyMouseComicUniverse Mickey Mouse]] story dealing with the [[ShowWithinAShow in-universe tv series]] ''Bolton'' (a counterpart to ''Series/{{Columbo}}''), showing both the bad and the good of this trope:
** The bad: When the writer disappears (as [[spoiler:he, the director and the main actor all feel that the series has gone long enough and would like to do something else but the producer is forcing them to continue, so they hope to kill the series and replace it with their new project this way]]) both Mickey and Mortimer are brought in as replacements, with Mickey writing scripts that [[OriginalFlavor could be mistaken for being written by the original writer]]... Except Mortimer, who didn't even see an episode before joining the staff, convinces the producer to dumb down Mickey's scripts, introduce nonsensical magic and science fiction elements, turn the main character in a goof and generally JumpingTheShark. This gets the original fans to leave and get replaced by teenagers who treat it as a comedy (instead of the adventure series that Mortimer intends) and the director, the main actor and Mickey leaving in disgust, with the latter deciding to track down the original writer to save the show (only to change his mind when he succeeds and finds out ''why'').
** The good: As the first episode of Mortimer's run as the director, writer and main actor is aired, he and the producer find out that the original writer, director and main actor, together with Mickey and his friends, have literally stole away both the original fans and the new ones with the fan-financed pilot of a new adventure series. The sponsors, already enraged by getting the original crowd replaced with fans that won't buy their adult-targeted watches, aftershaves and similar products (with the original fans not wishing to be associated to a moron), takes this as the last straw and intervene by killing ''Bolton'', replace it with the new show, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking force Mortimer to star in a last episode written by Mickey in which his version of Bolton is declared an imposter and kidnapped by a robot that wants to go back to Mars]] [[CoolAndUnusualPunishment as punishment for ruining the old show]].
26th Apr '16 2:03:46 PM DaibhidC
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* ''ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}'':
** J.H. Williams III and Haden Blackman both walked off because of "Eleventh Hour Changes". These include a new origin for Killer Croc and not allowing Kate Kane and Maggie Sawyer to marry (though they said specifically that it wasn't because they were gay but because of the brouhaha of superheroes marrying that was becoming something of a stigma in certain companies). This caused the last two issues of their run (#25 and #26) to be thrown out by DC, which pushed back the finale of their run where Batwoman and Batman fight to a few months later for the next writer to tie up the loose ends.
** Gail Simone was fired on two separate occasions. The first time, it was because refused to write the crossover issues of ''Comicbook/Batgirl2011'' for ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'', with DC eventually bringing her back after massive fanback backlash. The second time, it was because a new editor was tired of the TrueArtIsAngsty angle going on.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}'':
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''ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}'': J.H. Williams III and Haden Blackman both walked off because of "Eleventh Hour Changes". These include a new origin for Killer Croc and not allowing Kate Kane and Maggie Sawyer to marry (though they said specifically that it wasn't because they were gay but because of the brouhaha of superheroes marrying that was becoming something of a stigma in certain companies). This caused the last two issues of their run (#25 and #26) to be thrown out by DC, which pushed back the finale of their run where Batwoman and Batman fight to a few months later for the next writer to tie up the loose ends.
** * Gail Simone was fired from ''Comicbook/Batgirl2011'' on two separate occasions. The first time, it was because refused to write the crossover issues of ''Comicbook/Batgirl2011'' for ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'', with DC eventually bringing her back after massive fanback backlash. The second time, it was because a new editor was tired of the TrueArtIsAngsty angle going on. Which ''wasn't even her idea'', but the result of ''previous'' executive meddling; she's gone on record that the new creative team's LighterAndSofter approach is the book she ''wanted'' to write.
11th Apr '16 4:44:33 PM PF
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** In the original comics, The Joker started out as a sadistic serial killer; in the first two years, he was used he killed close to 30 people. Eventually, he became less murderous and more of an {{Idiosyncrazy}} villain with a "jokes and gags" theme who robbed banks, built wacky gadgets, and pulled harmless pranks because of the Comics Code Authority.
** DC insisted Batman have a KidSidekick, which creator Bob Kane protested for being a stupid idea. He lost the argument, leading to the creation Dick Grayson, the first ComicBook/{{Robin}}.
** Another account claims that Kane had drafted a more fantastical sidekick for Batman, a young boy with the codename "Mercury" who'd wear a special suit that gave him powers. Jerry Robinson then convinced Kane to bring the child down to a more realistic level and suggested the name "Robin" after "Robin Hood" (the bird symbolism wouldn't come into play until much later).

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** In the original comics, The Joker started out as a sadistic serial killer; in the first two years, years he was used used, he killed close to 30 people. Eventually, he became less murderous and more of an {{Idiosyncrazy}} villain with a "jokes and gags" theme who robbed banks, built wacky gadgets, and pulled harmless pranks because of the Comics Code Authority.
** DC insisted Batman have a KidSidekick, which creator Bob Kane protested for being a stupid idea. He lost the argument, leading to the creation Dick Grayson, the first ComicBook/{{Robin}}.
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ComicBook/{{Robin}}. Another account claims that Kane had drafted a more fantastical sidekick for Batman, a young boy with the codename "Mercury" who'd wear a special suit that gave him powers. Jerry Robinson then convinced Kane to bring the child down to a more realistic level and suggested the name "Robin" after "Robin Hood" (the bird symbolism wouldn't come into play until much later).



** There was once a comic called ''Josie'' that ran for six years. It was basically a DistaffCounterpart of ''Archie'' until the success of the ''WesternAnimation/TheArchieShow'' and (more importantly) the success of the hit song from said cartoon "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar,_Sugar Sugar, Sugar".]] Creator/HannaBarbera then approached Archie Comics and asked them about adapting another one of its properties. So in December 1969, Archie retooled ''Josie''. Josie and her friends decided to [[ComicBook/JosieAndThePussycats form a rock band]]. It was all done so Hanna-Barbera could adopt the upcoming [[WesternAnimation/JosieAndThePussyCats cartoon]] as a music-based series.

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** There was once a comic called ''Josie'' that ran for six years. It was basically a DistaffCounterpart of ''Archie'' until the success of the ''WesternAnimation/TheArchieShow'' and (more importantly) the success of the hit song from said cartoon "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar,_Sugar Sugar, Sugar".]] Creator/HannaBarbera then approached Archie Comics and asked them about adapting another one of its properties. So in December 1969, Archie retooled ''Josie''. Josie and her friends decided to [[ComicBook/JosieAndThePussycats form a rock band]]. It was all done so Hanna-Barbera could adopt the then upcoming [[WesternAnimation/JosieAndThePussyCats cartoon]] as a music-based series.
5th Apr '16 7:24:09 AM Willbyr
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21st Feb '16 3:06:42 PM KamenRiderKrypton
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* ''ComicBook/MarvelStarWars'': When Marvel got the license after the first movie, Creator/GerogeLucas forbade them to have Vader directly interact with the rebels, as it could interfere with what he had in mind for the movies.

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* ''ComicBook/MarvelStarWars'': When Marvel got the license after the first movie, Creator/GerogeLucas Creator/GeorgeLucas forbade them to have Vader directly interact with the rebels, as it could interfere with what he had in mind for the movies.
14th Feb '16 3:00:15 PM ZeldaQueen64
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** Nigel Kitching, a writer for the comic, wanted Amy to be a funny ActionGirl who teased Sonic for [[TheGadfly kicks and giggles]]. He wanted the two to have a bond similar to the ones in early twentieth century "screwball comedies" like the 1939 film, ''It's A Wonderful World''. A director decided GirlsNeedRoleModels, so Amy's personality was changed to be [[WomenAreWiser more sensible]] and CloserToEarth than the boys. Kitching noticeably had CreatorBacklash, saying Amy became a one-dimensional stereotype. [[WriterRevolt He gave up writing her]] until the final arc, ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'''s adaptation, where she returned to something more similar to her original persona. It's glaringly noticeable that Amy is less active than usual in that arc.

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** Nigel Kitching, a writer for the comic, wanted Amy to be a funny ActionGirl who teased Sonic for [[TheGadfly kicks and giggles]]. He wanted the two to have a bond similar to the ones in early twentieth century "screwball comedies" like the 1939 film, ''It's A Wonderful World''. A director decided GirlsNeedRoleModels, so Amy's personality was changed to be [[WomenAreWiser more sensible]] and CloserToEarth than the boys. Kitching noticeably had CreatorBacklash, saying Amy became a one-dimensional stereotype. [[WriterRevolt He gave up writing her]] until the final arc, ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'''s adaptation, where she returned to something more similar to her original persona. It's glaringly noticeable that Amy is less active than usual in that arc.
7th Feb '16 6:44:56 AM PF
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* ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'': Creator/DwayneMcDuffie was not allowed to use any of the Big Seven, and had to constantly rewrite stories around the plots of other books. In one instance, [=McDuffie=] was informed that Hawkgirl was to be killed off in ''Final Crisis'', but at the last second was informed that she wouldn't die after all. The latter news came after a scene reacting to her death was both written and drawn.

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* ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica'': Creator/DwayneMcDuffie Creator/{{Dwayne McDuffie}} was not allowed to use any of the Big Seven, and had to constantly rewrite stories around the plots of other books. In one instance, [=McDuffie=] was informed that Hawkgirl was to be killed off in ''Final Crisis'', but at the last second was informed that she wouldn't die after all. The latter news came after a scene reacting to her death was both written and drawn.
7th Feb '16 6:41:05 AM PF
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** There was once a comic called ''Josie'' that ran for six years. It was basically a DistaffCounterpart of ''Archie'' until the success of the ''WesternAnimation/TheArchieShow'' and (more importantly) the success of the hit song from said cartoon "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar,_Sugar Sugar, Sugar".]] CBS then approached [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_DeCarlo Dan DeCarlo]], the creator of ''Josie'', and asked him about adapting another of his properties. So in December 1969, [=DeCarlo=] retooled ''Josie''. Josie and her friends decided to [[ComicBook/JosieAndThePussycats form a rock band]]. It was all done so the musical numbers for the upcoming [[WesternAnimation/JosieAndThePussyCats cartoon]] would be more "accessible".

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** There was once a comic called ''Josie'' that ran for six years. It was basically a DistaffCounterpart of ''Archie'' until the success of the ''WesternAnimation/TheArchieShow'' and (more importantly) the success of the hit song from said cartoon "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar,_Sugar Sugar, Sugar".]] CBS Creator/HannaBarbera then approached [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_DeCarlo Dan DeCarlo]], the creator of ''Josie'', Archie Comics and asked him them about adapting another one of his its properties. So in December 1969, [=DeCarlo=] Archie retooled ''Josie''. Josie and her friends decided to [[ComicBook/JosieAndThePussycats form a rock band]]. It was all done so the musical numbers for Hanna-Barbera could adopt the upcoming [[WesternAnimation/JosieAndThePussyCats cartoon]] would be more "accessible".as a music-based series.
6th Feb '16 9:04:20 PM Karxrida
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** When they did find a way to bring Jean back without the Dark Phoenix baggage (by [[RetCon having it be the Phoenix Force impersonating her while the real Jean was being healed in a cocoon at the bottom of Jamaica Bay]]), it was decided to relaunch the original X-Men lineup as ''ComicBook/XFactor''. One slight problem - Angel, Beast, and Iceman were tied up in ''[[ComicBook/TheDefenders The New Defenders]]'', so that series was cancelled, and the rest of the team killed off in a HeroicSacrifice, so the trio could be freed up for ''X-Factor''.
** Even though the writers were forced to kill Jean again, the plans to give her a FinalDeath were changed to allow her to come back one day.
** While on the subject, Creator/ChrisClaremont returned to the titles in 2000, and since his return he has fallen victim to this trope numerous times. ''Exiles'' was re-packaged as ''New Exiles'' and Claremont was told he could only use characters he created, or wrote, during his first run on ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}},'' as the protagonists. Igor Kordey was replaced as the artist on ''New Excalibur'', while already working on the first issue; nobody informed Claremont, the writer, at the time of the change in artists. During his third, and latest, run on ''Uncanny X-Men,'' Claremont had to drop an ongoing plot, namely the formation of a new Hellfire Club, while the story was in full swing. He was told to abandon the story because a different writer at the time professed interest in using the Hellfire Club. Eventually, it turned out to be {{all just a dream}}, making the forced abandonment of the plot in ''Uncanny X-Men'' a jarring example of executive meddling.
*** The polar opposite has occurred with Claremont's ''X-Men Forever,'' where Quesada has apparently assured Claremont he can do absolutely anything the title's rating will allow with his characters, starting with rebooting the series to just after ''X-Men'' (vol. 2) #3 and [[KilledOffForReal killing Magneto and Wolverine permanently]] -- [[WordOfGod word of Claremont]] says they will never, under any circumstances, return in ''X-Men Forever'' (indeed, no dead character will come back from same again) -- and having a [[TheReveal big reveal]] that makes the mutant gifts of the X-Men a death curse that will burn them out before they're 50.
** Another X-Men example, Claremont originally wanted to reveal that Nightcrawler's parents were Mystique and her female lover, Destiny, with Mystique having used her shapeshifting powers to turn into a man and impregnate Destiny. The higher-ups at Marvel wouldn't allow it.
** The Reavers exist solely because of this trope. During Byrne's run on the title he made a habit of having Wolverine kill people off-panel (thought there would always be a veiled reference to it later in the same issue). Jim Shooter had a bad habit of having his assistants read the books, so he wasn't aware of his trend until he actually overheard John Byrne bragging about it to a fan during an autograph session. Jim Shooter then demanded that every character that Wolverine killed off-panel be brought back. Claremont ended up with the unsavory task, and brought them all back as cyborgs, who eventually formed the band of villains known as the Reavers.

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** When they did find a way it was decided to bring Jean Grey back without the Dark Phoenix baggage (by [[RetCon having it be the Phoenix Force impersonating her while the real Jean was being healed in a cocoon at the bottom of Jamaica Bay]]), it was decided to relaunch the original X-Men lineup as ''ComicBook/XFactor''. One slight problem - Angel, Beast, and Iceman were tied up in ''[[ComicBook/TheDefenders The New Defenders]]'', so that series was cancelled, and the rest of the team killed off in a HeroicSacrifice, so the trio could be freed up for ''X-Factor''.
** Even though the When writers were forced to kill Jean again, the plans to give her a FinalDeath were changed to allow her to come back one day.
** While on the subject, Creator/ChrisClaremont returned had to deal with many mandates when he came back to the titles book in 2000, and since his return he has fallen victim to this trope numerous times. 2000. ''Exiles'' was re-packaged as ''New Exiles'' and Claremont was told he could only use characters he created, created or wrote, during wrote as the protagonists for his first run on ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}},'' as the protagonists. ''ComicBook/XMen''. Igor Kordey was replaced as the artist on ''New Excalibur'', Excalibur'' while already working on the first issue; nobody informed Claremont, the writer, at the time of the change in artists. During his third, and latest, run on ''Uncanny X-Men,'' X-Men'', Claremont had to drop an ongoing plot, namely the formation of a new Hellfire Club, while the story was in full swing. He was told to abandon the story because a different writer at the time professed interest in using the Hellfire Club. Eventually, it turned out to be {{all just a dream}}, making the forced abandonment of the plot in ''Uncanny X-Men'' a jarring example of executive meddling.
*** The polar opposite has occurred with Claremont's ''X-Men Forever,'' where Quesada has apparently assured Claremont he can do absolutely anything the title's rating will allow with his characters, starting with rebooting the series to just after ''X-Men'' (vol. 2) #3 and [[KilledOffForReal killing Magneto and Wolverine permanently]] -- [[WordOfGod word of Claremont]] says they will never, under any circumstances, return in ''X-Men Forever'' (indeed, no dead character will come back from same again) -- and having a [[TheReveal big reveal]] that makes the mutant gifts of the X-Men a death curse that will burn them out before they're 50.
** Another X-Men example, Chris Claremont originally wanted to reveal that Nightcrawler's parents were Mystique and her female lover, Destiny, with Mystique having used her shapeshifting powers to turn into a man and impregnate Destiny. The higher-ups at Marvel wouldn't allow it.
** The Reavers exist solely because of this trope. During Byrne's run on the title he made a habit of having Wolverine kill people off-panel (thought there would always be a veiled reference to it later in the same issue). Jim Shooter had a bad habit of having his assistants read the books, so he wasn't aware of his trend until he actually overheard John Byrne bragging about it to a fan during an autograph session. Jim Shooter then demanded that every character that Wolverine killed off-panel be brought back. Claremont ended up with the unsavory task, and brought them all back as cyborgs, who eventually formed the band of villains known as the Reavers.



** Writer Simon Furman spent a few years writing a series of epic ''Transformers'' stories for IDW publishing that featured LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, as well as new concepts like the [[ZombieApocalypse Dead Universe]] and a plausible Decepticon invasion plan that made vehicular disguises relevant to the story. Then, due to falling sales, IDW decided to truncate Furman's twelve-issue GrandFinale into four issues of the 'Spotlight series (necessitating each chapter focusing on a single character's thoughts in addition to all the action), and a five issue "Maximum Dinobots" series so that they can put their publishing power behind ''All Hail Megatron''.

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** Writer Simon Furman spent a few years writing a series of epic ''Transformers'' stories for IDW publishing that featured LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, as well as new concepts like the [[ZombieApocalypse Dead Universe]] and a plausible Decepticon invasion plan that made vehicular disguises relevant to the story. Then, due to falling sales, IDW decided to truncate Furman's twelve-issue GrandFinale into four issues of the 'Spotlight "Spotlight" series (necessitating each chapter focusing on a single character's thoughts in addition to all the action), and a five issue "Maximum Dinobots" series so that they can put their publishing power behind ''All Hail Megatron''.
6th Feb '16 8:57:48 PM Karxrida
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* Back during the late 80s and early 90s, Todd [=McFarlane=] had popularized Franchise/SpiderMan with having humongous eyes instead of the smaller ones he had for over 20 years (at that point), leading them to demand that Spidey's mask be always drawn with humongous eyes. Alex Ross had to fight tooth and nail to be allowed to use the smaller-eyed Spidey mask when he was working on ''ComicBook/{{Marvels}}'', due to the fact that it was his favorite and having the big eyes while working on a series set in Spidey's earlier days would be inaccurate, not to mention very difficult to pull off as a plausible mask design in Ross's photo-realistic style.



* There are rumblings going on that Marvel is trying to screw over some of their big franchises due to the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse. The biggest point of contention involve both ''Franchise/XMen'' and ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'', big name franchises being sat on by Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox. The big rumor is that Marvel and Fox are squabbling over the two franchises ever since Disney bought Creator/LucasArts, denying Fox access to future ''Franchise/StarWars'' films. This has lead to both franchises being removed from virtually anything ''not'' comics, such as t-shirts, posters, toys, the works, unless it was connected to the film and not the comics. The comics are a different story, though - though Creator/ChrisClaremont revealed that mutants can't be created for the Marvel Universe, Creator/BrianMichaelBendis has gone on record saying they could. In addition, while there is nothing Fantastic Four-related in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'', there are a whopping ''10'' X-Men-related comics, with only two of them pairing mutants up with ComicBook/TheAvengers. Come the release of the ''ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'', while there are still no Fantastic Four-related titles, there are still a number of X-Men titles, include four titles specifically starring SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}
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