History EvenEvilHasStandards / Literature

30th Apr '16 9:24:00 AM Silverblade2
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** The backstory features a case of "Even {{Jerkass}}es Have Standards." As teenagers, James Potter and Sirius Black were both major-league dicks, especially toward Severus Snape. But Sirius's attempted DeadlyPrank on Severus was too dickish even by James Potter's standards, which is why James saved Severus's life (and why Severus held a grudging [[IOweYouMyLife life debt]] toward James and, by extension, James's son Harry).
11th Apr '16 2:57:07 PM QuantumReality
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* Tedrin, the villain in ''Literature/EdenGreen'', is a sadistic monster who sees no problem with killing and infecting other humans with his alien needle symbiote, but balks at the idea of raping the main character.

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* Tedrin, the villain in ''Literature/EdenGreen'', is a sadistic monster who sees no problem with killing and infecting other humans with his alien needle symbiote, but balks at the idea of raping the main character.character.
* In ''Literature/RobotsAndEmpire'' [[TheDragon Levular Mandamus]] balks at aiding and abetting the mass murder of billions of Earthpeople by [[BigBad Kelden Amadiro]].
30th Mar '16 7:24:08 AM GentlemensDame883
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* Tedrin, the villain in ''Literature/EdenGreen'', is a sadistic monster who sees no problem with killing and infecting other humans with his alien needle symbiote, but balks at the idea of raping the main character.
* In the Literature/PaladinOfShadows books, Katya is an absolutely frigid self-serving sadist bitch, but Kurt Schwenke's use of chemical tortures on prostitutes appalls even her.

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* Tedrin, the villain in ''Literature/EdenGreen'', is a sadistic monster who sees no problem with killing and infecting other humans with his alien needle symbiote, but balks at the idea of raping the main character.
* In the Literature/PaladinOfShadows books, Katya is an absolutely frigid self-serving sadist bitch, but Kurt Schwenke's use of chemical tortures on prostitutes appalls even her.
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30th Mar '16 7:23:09 AM GentlemensDame883
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* Tedrin, the villain in ''Literature/EdenGreen'', is a sadistic monster who sees no problem with killing and infecting other humans with his alien needle symbiote, but balks at the idea of raping the main character.

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* Tedrin, the villain in ''Literature/EdenGreen'', is a sadistic monster who sees no problem with killing and infecting other humans with his alien needle symbiote, but balks at the idea of raping the main character.character.
* In the Literature/PaladinOfShadows books, Katya is an absolutely frigid self-serving sadist bitch, but Kurt Schwenke's use of chemical tortures on prostitutes appalls even her.
22nd Mar '16 9:57:40 AM Eoppen
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** And later, Alex is horrified and indignant at the use of Beethoven's music during the Ludovico Treatment. "He never harmed anybody! He just wrote music!"
1st Mar '16 12:53:26 PM HeraldAlberich
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* From the ''StarwarsExpandedUniverse'':
** In the ''Literature/TalesOfTheBountyHunters'' anthology, there's a Boba Fett story. Apparently Jabba gives Leia to the bounty hunter for the night, as a reward. Fett is disgusted by this, but doesn't send her back. He [[TheWomenAreSafeWithUs gives her the bed]] and stands near the door, and tells her that sex before marriage is immoral and Han Solo is evil for smuggling spice--spice, in Star Wars, being anything from a drug to a rare medicine to an unusual food additive. Leia calls him out on this--one, he's a ''bounty hunter'', essentially assassinating people for the prices on their heads, and two, he's working for Jabba the Hutt, who does a lot worse. Fett says that morality does not enter into that, because what he does is legal. Leia doesn't press it.

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* From the ''StarwarsExpandedUniverse'':
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** In the ''Literature/TalesOfTheBountyHunters'' anthology, there's a Boba Fett story. Apparently Jabba gives Leia to the bounty hunter for the night, as a reward. Fett is disgusted by this, but doesn't send her back. He [[TheWomenAreSafeWithUs gives her the bed]] and stands near the door, and tells her that sex before marriage is immoral and Han Solo is evil for smuggling spice--spice, in Star Wars, ''Star Wars'', being anything from a drug to a rare medicine to an unusual food additive. Leia calls him out on this--one, he's a ''bounty hunter'', essentially assassinating people for the prices on their heads, and two, he's working for Jabba the Hutt, who does a lot worse. Fett says that morality does not enter into that, because what he does is legal. Leia doesn't press it.



** In the ''ComicBook/XWingSeries'', Kirtan Loor has a couple moments like this. He's petty, puffed up, and vindictive, but when [[BigBad Isard]] talks about how the [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke Krytos plague]] will decimate the Sullustans to such an extent that it might be best if they set aside some breeding stock for when the plague has run its course, Loor is taken aback and feels uneasy. The narration says that while he does consider Sullustans to be [[FantasticRacism inferior]], talking about them like they're grain to be poisoned for rats, with some pristine kernels held back, is a bit much. He's also sickened in General Derricote's plague lab when he sees the disease working on test subjects, and orders what he assumes to be a stricken mother and child to be taken away and cured, although he does hastily tell the General that this is part of the plan to drain the New Republic's resources. Later he becomes the leader of a terrorism front that detonates speeders filled with explosives in health centers and public places, but when his ''new'' boss orders a [[WouldntHurtAChild school]] to be bombed, he's horrified. His new boss sardonically mocks him. Here he is, not wanting to kill children, and yet he's performing strikes to keep people away from health centers, meaning that the Krytos Plague, which doesn't spare the young, will be less impeded.
** In ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'', Tahiri Veila chooses to offer Luke's son Ben sex in exchange for information rather than torturing him. Either option is disturbing when you consider that he's just turned 14--but, knowing 14 year old boys, is surprisingly good psychology...

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** In the ''ComicBook/XWingSeries'', ''Literature/XWingSeries'', Kirtan Loor has a couple moments like this. He's petty, puffed up, and vindictive, but when [[BigBad Isard]] talks about how the [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke Krytos plague]] will decimate the Sullustans to such an extent that it might be best if they set aside some breeding stock for when the plague has run its course, Loor is taken aback and feels uneasy. The narration says that while he does consider Sullustans to be [[FantasticRacism inferior]], talking about them like they're grain to be poisoned for rats, with some pristine kernels held back, is a bit much. He's also sickened in General Derricote's plague lab when he sees the disease working on test subjects, and orders what he assumes to be a stricken mother and child to be taken away and cured, although he does hastily tell the General that this is part of the plan to drain the New Republic's resources. Later he becomes the leader of a terrorism front that detonates speeders filled with explosives in health centers and public places, but when his ''new'' boss orders a [[WouldntHurtAChild school]] to be bombed, he's horrified. His new boss sardonically mocks him. Here he is, not wanting to kill children, and yet he's performing strikes to keep people away from health centers, meaning that the Krytos Plague, which doesn't spare the young, will be less impeded.
** In ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce'', Tahiri Veila chooses to offer Luke's son Ben sex in exchange for information rather than torturing him. Either option is disturbing when you consider that he's just turned 14--but, knowing 14 year old 14-year-old boys, is surprisingly good psychology...psychology...
** ''Literature/DarkLordTheRiseOfDarthVader'': Even though they're enemies, Vader disapproves of former Jedi Master Roan Shryne turning to smuggling. He outright tells him that it's unbecoming of a Jedi.
19th Feb '16 10:01:43 AM PaulA
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* MagnificentBastard Long John Silver in ''TreasureIsland'' may be a pirate, mutineer and murderer, but he draws the line at harming [[MoralityPet Jim Hawkins]]. He also despises the Black Spot, because it means tearing a page from the Bible to draw the death sentence of a pirate. Captain Flint himself and his surviving crew feared Silver, but didn't have a problem with the Black Spot and tearing a page from the Bible.

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* MagnificentBastard Long John Silver in ''TreasureIsland'' ''Literature/TreasureIsland'' may be a pirate, mutineer and murderer, but he draws the line at harming [[MoralityPet Jim Hawkins]]. He also despises the Black Spot, because it means tearing a page from the Bible to draw the death sentence of a pirate. Captain Flint himself and his surviving crew feared Silver, but didn't have a problem with the Black Spot and tearing a page from the Bible.
16th Feb '16 12:19:55 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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** Sirius Black's evil, pureblood-maniac parents, who disowned Sirius (after he ran away) when he was sixteen, didn't join Voldemort because they thought he was going too far. Sirius's own brother, Regulus, did join Voldemort, but then [[spoiler:when Voldemort tortures a loyal house-elf,]] turns against him.
** Godelot Sr, writer of ''Magick Moste Evile'', wouldn't touch the subject of Horcruxes. The notes in ''Tales of Beedle the Bard'' indicate that he was a CardCarryingVillain.

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** Sirius Black's evil, pureblood-maniac evil blood-purist parents, who disowned Sirius (after he ran away) when he was sixteen, didn't join Voldemort because they thought he was going too far. Sirius's own brother, Regulus, did join Voldemort, but then [[spoiler:when Voldemort tortures turned against him after [[spoiler:Voldemort tortured a loyal house-elf,]] turns against him.
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** [[CardCarryingVillain Godelot Sr, Sr]], writer of ''Magick Moste Evile'', wouldn't touch the subject of Horcruxes. The notes in ''Tales of Beedle the Bard'' indicate that he was a CardCarryingVillain.Horcruxes.



** Drumstrang Institute is a school infamous for teaching the [[DarkIsEvil Dark Arts]] and are very anti-Muggle to the point that Muggleborns aren't allowed to enroll. It was also the school that [[EvilSorcerer Gellert Grinderwald]] attended only to be expelled for "twisted experiments".

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** Drumstrang Durmstrang Institute is a school infamous for teaching the [[DarkIsEvil Dark Arts]] TheDarkArts and are very anti-Muggle to the point that Muggleborns aren't allowed to enroll. It was also the school that forbidding Muggle-borns from enrolling. But even ''they'' kicked [[EvilSorcerer Gellert Grinderwald]] attended only to be expelled for out after discovering his "twisted experiments".experiments."
28th Jan '16 2:23:25 PM GrammarNavi
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* SvenHassel writes of soldiers in a penal battalion, some of the roughest, cruelest, most degraded men in the forces of UsefulNotes/NaziGermany...but sometimes they run across things done by the Nazis, or the Soviets, that repulse even these hardened, callous killers. When they get a chance to express their disapproval of such things in concrete form, it can get...''messy.''

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* SvenHassel Creator/SvenHassel writes of soldiers in a penal battalion, some of the roughest, cruelest, most degraded men in the forces of UsefulNotes/NaziGermany...but sometimes they run across things done by the Nazis, or the Soviets, that repulse even these hardened, callous killers. When they get a chance to express their disapproval of such things in concrete form, it can get...''messy.''
18th Jan '16 4:39:31 PM FekketCantenel
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* Spademan, assassin and NominalHero of ''Shovel Ready'' has no problem killing adults but if you're under eighteen you;re safe from him. When he finds out that his latest "client" is pregnant it instigates his HeelFaceTurn.

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* Spademan, assassin and NominalHero of ''Shovel Ready'' has no problem killing adults adults, but if you're under eighteen you;re eighteen, you're safe from him. When he finds out that his latest "client" is pregnant pregnant, it instigates his HeelFaceTurn.



* ''[[Literature/ChroniclesOfNarnia The Magician's Nephew]]'': The rulers of Charn became more evil and bloodthirsty throughout the generations, but even they knew better than to use the [[FantasticNuke Deplorable Word]], keeping it a secret amongst themselves and making oaths to never seek it out. Not that it stopped Jadis from using it when her sister refused to give up the throne.

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* ''[[Literature/ChroniclesOfNarnia The Magician's Nephew]]'': The rulers of Charn became more evil and bloodthirsty throughout the generations, but even they knew better than to use the [[FantasticNuke Deplorable Word]], keeping it a secret amongst themselves and making oaths to never seek it out. Not that it stopped Jadis from using it when her sister refused to give up the throne.throne.
* Tedrin, the villain in ''Literature/EdenGreen'', is a sadistic monster who sees no problem with killing and infecting other humans with his alien needle symbiote, but balks at the idea of raping the main character.
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