History EvenEvilHasStandards / Literature

2nd Nov '17 2:48:18 PM RedScharlach
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* In ''Literature/TheSilenceOfTheLambs'', Hannibal Lecter gets disgusted when Migs, the patient in the next cell over from him throws his [[ADateWithRosiePalms semen]] at Clarisse on her way out. Hannibal is so insulted that he agrees to help her find Gumb to make up for it, and [[spoiler: talks Migs into killing himself]]. He is a cold-blooded, cannibalistic serial killer and a brilliant psychiatrist, at that.

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* In ''Literature/TheSilenceOfTheLambs'', Hannibal Lecter gets disgusted when Migs, the patient in the next cell over from him throws his [[ADateWithRosiePalms semen]] at Clarisse on her way out. Hannibal is so insulted that he agrees to help her find Gumb to make up for it, and [[spoiler: talks [[spoiler:talks Migs into killing himself]]. He is a cold-blooded, cannibalistic serial killer and a brilliant psychiatrist, at that.



* In the ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' novel 'Star Lord,' it's implied that there's rogue mercenary and pirate bands who turned down offers to work with an otherwise charismatic and surprisingly well heeled leader not unlike a Bandit King when they discovered he was a direct genetic descendant of the setting's greatest and most infamous monster looking to finish what his ancestor started. These pirates are generally taking slaves, burning villages, and otherwise being barbaric... and they ''still'' don't want to be associated with this guy. Some groups eventually did join his army, in a flat aversion of this trope.

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* In the ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' novel 'Star Lord,' it's implied that there's there are rogue mercenary and pirate bands who turned down offers to work with an otherwise charismatic and surprisingly well heeled well-heeled leader not unlike a Bandit King when they discovered he was a direct genetic descendant of the setting's greatest and most infamous monster looking to finish what his ancestor started. These pirates are generally taking slaves, burning villages, and otherwise being barbaric... and they ''still'' don't want to be associated with this guy. Some groups eventually did join his army, in a flat aversion of this trope.



** Victarion Greyjoy has no problem whatsoever with kidnapping a woman to be his 'salt wife' (forced paramour). But when he finds out his brother Euron has impregnated her (again, it's unlikely to have been though consent), and he must kill her according to Ironborn law, he breaks down in tears and swears vengeance on Euron. Note how "break the law by sparing her life, killing the sprog by abortion or drowning-at-birth and then screaming vengence at the heavens" wasn't a palatable option.

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** Victarion Greyjoy has no problem whatsoever with kidnapping a woman to be his 'salt wife' (forced paramour). But when he finds out his brother Euron has impregnated her (again, it's unlikely to have been though consent), consensual), and he must kill her according to Ironborn law, he breaks down in tears and swears vengeance on Euron. Note how "break the law by sparing her life, killing the sprog by abortion or drowning-at-birth and then screaming vengence vengeance at the heavens" wasn't a palatable option.



* In the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'', one of the main industries of Jackson's Hole is making clone-slaves; including clones that allow rich men to achieve immortality by transplanting their brains and throwing away the old one, thus killing it's personality. ''Nearly everyone'' outlaws that. On Jackson's Whole there isn't any law.

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* In the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'', one of the main industries of Jackson's Hole is making clone-slaves; including clones that allow rich men to achieve immortality by transplanting their brains and throwing away the old one, thus killing it's its personality. ''Nearly everyone'' outlaws that. On Jackson's Whole there isn't any law.



* In the novel ''Literature/TheHouseOfSilk'' (the new Sherlock Holmes novel by Anthony Horowitz) we learn that even the Napoleon of Crime himself (never named in the book but it's obviously him) has standards [[spoiler: he finds the child sexual abuse practice in the eponymous house so appalling he gives Watson information which directly assists in solving the case.]] The section where this happens is very well-written and despite this moment of dog-petting the reader is left in no doubt that Moriarty is a very sinister man indeed.

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* In the novel ''Literature/TheHouseOfSilk'' (the new Sherlock Holmes novel by Anthony Horowitz) we learn that even the Napoleon of Crime himself (never named in the book but it's obviously him) has standards [[spoiler: he standards: [[spoiler:he finds the child sexual abuse practice practiced in the eponymous house so appalling that he gives Watson information which directly assists in solving the case.]] The section where this happens is very well-written and despite this moment of dog-petting the reader is left in no doubt that Moriarty is a very sinister man indeed.



* Dark elf [[Literature/MalusDarkblade Malus]] [[VillainProtagonist Darkblade]] is a sadistic bloodthirsty spiteful backstabbing opportunist, so it really says something about the [[TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyBattle world]] he lives in that he still finds things there to be genuinly appalled about, such as the way his forest-dwelling cousins mutilate their dark elven slaves - cut out their vocal cords and ears and pluck out their eyes. Mind you, dark elves are very fond of torture as well, but the city-dwellers like Malus would usually finish off their victims after they're done with them, and definitely not force them to drag on such a wretched existance.

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* Dark elf [[Literature/MalusDarkblade Malus]] [[VillainProtagonist Darkblade]] is a sadistic bloodthirsty spiteful backstabbing opportunist, so it really says something about the [[TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyBattle world]] he lives in that he still finds things there to be genuinly genuinely appalled about, such as the way his forest-dwelling cousins mutilate their dark elven slaves - cut out their vocal cords and ears and pluck out their eyes. Mind you, dark elves are very fond of torture as well, but the city-dwellers like Malus would usually finish off their victims after they're done with them, and definitely not force them to drag on such a wretched existance.
31st Oct '17 1:38:32 PM darkemyst
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** Inverted with Umbridge; not only does she lack standards, she makes Snape, a Smug Snake and known Death Eater by the [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix book she's introduced in]], look good next to her.
--->'''Snape:''' Unless you wish to poison Potter [[TakeThat and I would be in the greatest possible sympathy with you if you did]] I cannot help you.
22nd Oct '17 11:42:37 AM SLOOGOVS
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* ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity'': Sam. He explicitly states that none of the assassins ever killed an entire family, plus they make their killing quick and painless.
12th Aug '17 3:34:21 AM WanderingBrowser
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* In the ''Literature/DragonLance'' short story "Boom", by Jeeff Grubb, the wing-commander of one of Takhisis' Dragon Armies, a man who leads monsters and evil men to conquer and kill on behalf of the chief GodOfEvil of the setting, refuses to use a mad gnome's [[FantasticNuke atomic bomb equivalent]]. Part of the reason is that, like [[BunglingInventor all gnome inventors]], it's [[FantasyGunControl less practical than spellcraft]], but mostly it's because the sheer scope of its devastation, miles of fertile land reduced to ashes and leaving behind a poisoned wasteland, horrifies him as being far too terrible to use.

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* In the ''Literature/DragonLance'' ''Literature/{{DragonLance}}'' short story "Boom", by Jeeff Jeff Grubb, the wing-commander of one of Takhisis' Dragon Armies, a man who leads monsters and evil men to conquer and kill on behalf of the chief GodOfEvil of the setting, refuses to use a mad gnome's [[FantasticNuke atomic bomb equivalent]]. Part of the reason is that, like [[BunglingInventor like all gnome inventors]], inventions]], it's [[FantasyGunControl less practical than spellcraft]], but mostly it's because the sheer scope of its devastation, described as resulting in miles of fertile land reduced to ashes and leaving behind a poisoned wasteland, horrifies him as being far too terrible to use.
18th Jul '17 2:23:31 PM DanaO
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* In the ''Literature/HIVESeries'' about a school of evil villains, villains like Dr Nero disapprove of needless violence even if they are evil.

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* In the ''Literature/HIVESeries'' about a school of evil villains, villains like Dr Dr. Nero disapprove of needless violence even if they are evil.evil. Nero's internal monologues suggest he sees villainy as a matter of natural talent and individual empowerment: his goal is to see those inclined to become criminal masterminds or hired killers or mad scientists or sleazy bankers/lawyers/politicians "be all they can be" while at the same time dedicating himself to curbing the excesses of ''expressing'' those talents.
23rd Jun '17 6:42:37 PM foxley
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* ''Literature/AnnaPigeon'': In ''Destroying Angel'', Reg - one of a gang of kidnappers - refuses to kill a crippled dog when his boss orders him to, arguing that it's not right. The Dude points out that as he has already expressed his willingness to kill a paraplegic woman and a teenaged girl, this seems to show a somewhat skewed sense of morality. Reg is also disgusted by Sean's sexual interest in underage girls.

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* ''Literature/AnnaPigeon'': In ''Destroying ''Destroyer Angel'', Reg - one of a gang of kidnappers - refuses to kill a crippled dog when his boss orders him to, arguing that it's not right. The Dude points out that as he has already expressed his willingness to kill a paraplegic woman and a teenaged girl, this seems to show a somewhat skewed sense of morality. Reg is also disgusted by Sean's sexual interest in underage girls.
22nd Jun '17 11:10:56 PM foxley
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* ''Literature/AnnaPigeon'': In ''Destroying Angel'', Reg - one of a gang of kidnappers - refuses to kill a crippled dog when his boss orders him to, arguing that it's not right. The Dude points out that as he has already expressed his willingness to kill a paraplegic woman and a teenaged girl, this seems to show a somewhat skewed sense of morality. Reg is also disgusted by Sean's sexual interest in underage girls.
17th Jun '17 4:34:29 PM Kakai
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* ''Literature/TheMachineriesOfEmpire'': Jedao may be a mass murderer and merciless assassin, but he's absolutely repulsed by rape and anything that's PoweredByAForsakenChild. Mikodez considers this somewhat unreasonable.
28th May '17 3:14:31 PM nombretomado
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* Dark elf [[Literature/MalusDarkblade Malus]] [[VillainProtagonist Darkblade]] is a sadistic bloodthirsty spiteful backstabbing opportunist, so it really says something about the [[WarhammerFantasyBattle world]] he lives in that he still finds things there to be genuinly appalled about, such as the way his forest-dwelling cousins mutilate their dark elven slaves - cut out their vocal cords and ears and pluck out their eyes. Mind you, dark elves are very fond of torture as well, but the city-dwellers like Malus would usually finish off their victims after they're done with them, and definitely not force them to drag on such a wretched existance.

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* Dark elf [[Literature/MalusDarkblade Malus]] [[VillainProtagonist Darkblade]] is a sadistic bloodthirsty spiteful backstabbing opportunist, so it really says something about the [[WarhammerFantasyBattle [[TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasyBattle world]] he lives in that he still finds things there to be genuinly appalled about, such as the way his forest-dwelling cousins mutilate their dark elven slaves - cut out their vocal cords and ears and pluck out their eyes. Mind you, dark elves are very fond of torture as well, but the city-dwellers like Malus would usually finish off their victims after they're done with them, and definitely not force them to drag on such a wretched existance.
20th May '17 6:55:36 AM LadyJaneGrey
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** Played straight in that they will ''not'' however, permit cannibalism. Katniss recalls one Tribute in a previous Games who was eliminated for doing so.
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