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** Loki is getting quite a lot of leather pants treatment from Fandom. It helps that he is depicted quite sympathetically with a decent FreudianExcuse and is played by the good-looking yet melancholy Creator/TomHiddleston. He even does wear leather pants. An it's not just the fandom -- Tom Hiddleston himself ''frequently'' speaks in interviews about how he believes Loki needs a hug and some self-esteem, and that he's doing everything he does in ''The Avengers'' because he needs someone to [[LoveRedeems fix him with love]].
*** It was averted a little in ''The Avengers'' where some fangirls jumped off from the Loki worship because of his [[MoralEventHorizon actions]] (namely, the fact that he kills Agent Coulson, the film-original character who's been present since Iron Man, and for the fact that he brainwashes multiple S.H.I.E.L.D. personnel and Hawkeye, then has them fight their own comrades). But for many, the Loki love was still pretty high, some even theorizing that he was brainwashed and mind-controlled during ''The Avengers'' and wasn't responsible for any of his actions. His getting the tar smacked out of him by the Hulk, while one of the funniest and awesomest parts of the film, probably enacted the FlorenceNightingaleEffect on many viewers.
*** Come ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'', it seems to have gone back 'round the bend and no one really needs to make excuses anymore. He's clearly upset by his mother's death, giving him back any sympathy he lost from ''The Avengers'', and he seemingly dies heroically saving Thor. His gleeful prodding of Thor during their escape from Asgard brings back his lighthearted side from the original movie and he still proves he's a cunning master with his not-death and quiet usurping of the throne by the end of the film. Basically all the traits he had revoked by his actions in ''The Avengers'' were undone by this movie.
*** And after ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' and ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', it turns into a subversion with [[spoiler:Loki performing a HeelFaceTurn when he arrives with TheCavalry to save the day in the first film and performs a HeroicSacrifice in the second one, thus dropping the "Draco" part.]]
*** This gets something of a FandomNod in ''Ragnarok'', where we get to see Loki's version of the final events of ''The Dark World'' (which he's commissioned as a play after having faked his death). Loki is written as [[{{Wimpification}} a weepy woobie]] [[HerCodeNameWasMarySue who never really meant to hurt anyone and just wanted his brother to love him.]] Most of the audience is sobbing, while the real Loki, lounging on his throne in disguise and eating grapes, finds the whole thing hilarious.

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** Loki is was getting quite a lot of leather pants treatment from Fandom.Fandom after the release of ''Thor''. It helps that he is depicted quite sympathetically with a decent FreudianExcuse and is played by the good-looking yet melancholy Creator/TomHiddleston. He even does wear leather pants. An it's not just the fandom -- Tom Hiddleston himself ''frequently'' speaks in interviews about how he believes Loki needs a hug and some self-esteem, and that he's doing everything he does in ''The Avengers'' because he needs someone to [[LoveRedeems fix him with love]].
*** It was averted a little in In ''The Avengers'' where Avengers,'' some fangirls jumped off from the Loki worship because of his [[MoralEventHorizon actions]] (namely, the fact that he actions]]. He kills Agent Coulson, the film-original character who's been present since Iron Man, and for the fact that he brainwashes multiple S.H.I.E.L.D. personnel and Hawkeye, then has them fight their own comrades).comrades. But for many, the Loki love was still pretty high, some even theorizing that he was brainwashed and mind-controlled during ''The Avengers'' and wasn't responsible for any of his actions. His getting the tar smacked out of him by the Hulk, while one of the funniest and awesomest parts of the film, probably enacted the FlorenceNightingaleEffect on many viewers.
*** Come ''Film/ThorTheDarkWorld'', it seems to have gone back 'round all the bend traits he had revoked by his actions in ''The Avengers'' were undone and no one really needs needed to make excuses anymore. He's clearly upset by his mother's death, giving him back any sympathy he lost from ''The Avengers'', and he seemingly dies heroically saving Thor. His gleeful prodding of Thor during their escape from Asgard brings back his lighthearted side from the original movie ''Thor'' and he still proves he's a cunning master with his not-death and quiet usurping of the throne by the end of the film. Basically all the traits he had revoked by his actions in ''The Avengers'' were undone by this movie.
*** And after ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' and ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', it turns into a subversion with [[spoiler:Loki performing a HeelFaceTurn when he arrives with TheCavalry to save the day in the first film and performs a HeroicSacrifice in the second one, thus dropping the "Draco" part.]]
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*** This gets something of a FandomNod in ''Ragnarok'', where we get to see Loki's version of the final events of ''The Dark World'' (which he's commissioned as a play after having faked his death). Loki is written as [[{{Wimpification}} a weepy woobie]] woobie [[HerCodeNameWasMarySue who never really meant to hurt anyone and just wanted his brother family to love him.]] Most of the audience is sobbing, while the real Loki, lounging on his throne in disguise and eating grapes, finds the whole thing hilarious.hilarious.
*** In ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' and ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', [[spoiler:Loki performs a HeelFaceTurn when he arrives with TheCavalry to save the day in the first film and performs a HeroicSacrifice in the second one.]] He thus drops the "Draco" part.
*** Ten years later, ''Series/{{Loki|2021}}'' uses some of the justifications fandom made for Loki back in the day, stating that his viciousness in ''The Avengers'' was largely an act to cover up his insecurity, and he only posed as evil and sadistic because he subconsiously believed in ThenLetMeBeEvil while being completely un-self-aware. The series deconstructs his character and [[TraumaCongaLine thoroughly breaks him]]. By the end of season 1, Loki is no longer a villain.
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* Samara Morgan from the American remake of ''Film/TheRing''. Some interpret her dialogue with the doctor as her being an [[TheWoobie innocent victim of cruel, misunderstanding parents]] and a BlessedWithSuck type of power that she can't control that causes her to implant evil in people's minds without wanting to. Even if we were to assume that [[FreudianExcuse far-fetched interpertation]] is true, it still doesn't justify her killing innocent people who just happened to watch her tape.

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* Samara Morgan from the American remake of ''Film/TheRing''. Some interpret her dialogue with the doctor as her being an [[TheWoobie innocent victim of cruel, misunderstanding parents]] and a BlessedWithSuck type of power that she can't control that causes her to implant evil in people's minds without wanting to. Even if we were to assume that [[FreudianExcuse far-fetched interpertation]] interpretation]] is true, it still doesn't justify her killing innocent people who just happened to watch her tape.
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* ''Film/TheDevilWearsPrada'': Miranda Priestly is presented in a far better light by the fanbase than the film, mainly due to the commanding presence of Creator/MerylStreep. Fans seem to ignore her abusive behavior towards her employees and instead portray her as a tough but fair boss. Fans also like to ignore the fact that she robbed her friend, Nigel, of his dream job to save her own. This also comes from the fact that a lot of fans like to ship her with the lead Andy, so these fans often say the fact that she gave Andy a recommendation at the end is her supporting Andy's career, but this ignores the fact that much of the film is Miranda trying to mold Andy into being ruthless like herself.
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** The MUTOs of ''Film/Godzilla2014'' often get this treatment. In the film, they're depicted as being completely callous to the damage they cause to humans, but fans tend to focus more on the fact they're only interested in defending themselves and living out their life cycle, whilst overlooking the catastrophic consequences their survival and reproduction would entail; depicting them as {{Tragic Monster}}s.

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** King Ghidorah's ''[[MultipleHeadCase left head]]'' gets this treatment in ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'', where the fandom portrays him as Adorkable and the most friendly and innocent of the three and nicknaming him [[FanNickname Kevin]], even though in the film proper he's easily the most AxCrazy of the trio, happily incinerating human soldiers with his gravity beam and then licking up the charred remains.

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** King ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'' has several cases:
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Ghidorah's ''[[MultipleHeadCase left head]]'' heads]]'' gets this treatment in ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'', where treatment. Many fans like to depict the fandom portrays him left head, nicknamed "San" or more often "Kevin", as Adorkable and the most friendly and innocent of the three and nicknaming him [[FanNickname Kevin]], three, even though in the film proper he exhibits no compunctions against killing humans with his Gravity Beam once the middle head has gotten him in line. Even the director has [[https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-godzilla-director-ghidorah-mothra-rodan-20190602-story.html gotten in on this interpretation]], joking that Kevin would likely not be such a bad guy if he could call more of the shots.
*** Rodan, to a lesser extent. A number of fans have sympathized with the Fire Demon, claiming that
he's easily not a really bad guy, and was just minding his own business before stupid humans fire missiles at him and force him to fight Ghidorah, who in turn beat him and force him to fight Godzilla and Mothra. Never mind that he shows unprecedented aggression towards the most AxCrazy of humans, clearly enjoying himself as he picked them out one by one--unlike Godzilla, who is willing to ignore the trio, happily incinerating human soldiers humans' hostility against him as long as it doesn't interfere with his gravity beam goals, and then licking up Mothra, who is able to drive off aggressors in a non-violent way.
*** [[JerkassWoobie Mark Russell]] to a slight degree. Fans and fanfics are likely to focus on his sympathetic qualities and trauma, but downplay or overlook
the charred remains.bits where he acts high-horsed and where he treats his ex-colleagues like shit most of the time for the first half of the film.
*** From his lovers, Admiral William Stenz gets this in regards to the Oxygen Destroyer's launch. Viewers who really like him are quick to argue that he was JustFollowingOrders and that he actually personally disagrees with the weapon's usage against the Titans, despite what Stenz's choice of words ("With any luck it'll '''kill these things''' and '''this nightmare will finally be over'''") and his vocal tone (he sounds purely annoyed when refuting Serizawa's protest) indicate.
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** TheEmpire in general gets a fair amount of this. It goes beyond RootingForTheEmpire (which is when people root for the bad guys ''while still acknowledging they're the bad guys''), since some political analysts [[http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2540 have actually interpreted the Empire as the real heroes of the franchise]].

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** TheEmpire in general gets a fair amount of this. It goes beyond RootingForTheEmpire (which is when people root for the bad guys ''while still acknowledging they're the bad guys''), since some political analysts [[http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/2540 [[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/the-case-for-the-empire have actually interpreted the Empire as the real heroes of the franchise]].
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* Luke Lerner from ''Film/BetterWatchOut'' tends to get this treatment from fans quite a lot. One example is in the Sequel Fic [[https://fanfiction.fandom.com/wiki/Better_Watch_Out_(aftermath) Better Watch Out: Aftermath]] where Luke forgets his memory of the murders and portrays his actions as being just a prank.
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* ''Film/HardCandy'' has Hayley, played by a pre-Juno Creator/EllenPage. She has hordes of fangirls cheering her on and calling her a righteous angel. They ignore the fact that she's clearly a mentally disturbed and sociopathic girl who ties up a man and tortures him for hours on end, eventually [[spoiler: making him believe she's castrated him and forcing him to commit suicide]]. Because said man is a child molester, Hayley is held as a paragon of [[StrawFeminism feminism]] and her fans ignore the obvious fact that she's using the child molester as an excuse to further her own twisted desires.

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* ''Film/HardCandy'' has Hayley, played by a pre-Juno Creator/EllenPage.Creator/ElliotPage. She has hordes of fangirls cheering her on and calling her a righteous angel. They ignore the fact that she's clearly a mentally disturbed and sociopathic girl who ties up a man and tortures him for hours on end, eventually [[spoiler: making him believe she's castrated him and forcing him to commit suicide]]. Because said man is a child molester, Hayley is held as a paragon of [[StrawFeminism feminism]] and her fans ignore the obvious fact that she's using the child molester as an excuse to further her own twisted desires.

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* Samara Morgan from American remake of ''Film/TheRing''. Some interpret her dialogue with the doctor as her being an [[TheWoobie innocent victim of cruel, misunderstanding parents]] and a BlessedWithSuck type of power that she can't control that causes her to implant evil in people's minds without wanting to. Even if we were to assume that [[FreudianExcuse far-fetched interpertation]] is true, it still doesn't justify her killing innocent people who just happened to watch her tape.
** It's not ''ridiculously'' far-fetched. Just because Samara was evil [[EvilVersusEvil doesn't make the heart-wrenching things she was put through good]]. Besides, the firm establishment of Samara as being really, truly evil rather than indeed being driven insane with misery until her powers went beyond her control even after she died only happens [[DeusAngstMachina in the last five minutes of the movie]]... up until then even the main character thought that explanation was correct. It doesn't forgive people completely ''ignoring'' said last five minutes, but it does make it easier to understand where it comes from.
** Sadako Yamamura, her counterpart in the original Japanese films, is given this as well, but by ''Ringu 0'' [[TearJerker it's much]] [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds more justifiable]].

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* Samara Morgan from the American remake of ''Film/TheRing''. Some interpret her dialogue with the doctor as her being an [[TheWoobie innocent victim of cruel, misunderstanding parents]] and a BlessedWithSuck type of power that she can't control that causes her to implant evil in people's minds without wanting to. Even if we were to assume that [[FreudianExcuse far-fetched interpertation]] is true, it still doesn't justify her killing innocent people who just happened to watch her tape.
** It's not ''ridiculously'' far-fetched. Just because Samara was evil [[EvilVersusEvil doesn't make the heart-wrenching things she was put through good]]. Besides, the firm establishment of Samara as being really, truly evil rather than indeed being driven insane with misery until her powers went beyond her control even after she died only happens [[DeusAngstMachina in the last five minutes of the movie]]... up until then even the main character thought that explanation was correct. It doesn't forgive people completely ''ignoring'' said last five minutes, but it does make it easier to understand where it comes from.
** Sadako Yamamura, her counterpart in the original Japanese films, is given this as well, but by ''Ringu 0'' [[TearJerker 0'', it's much]] much [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds more justifiable]].



* A subset of the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' fandom refer to themselves as 'Hoffbunnies' due to their all-consuming love for the franchise's resident MagnificentBastard, Detective Mark Hoffman. He may be a [[BitchInSheepsClothing heartless, sadistic]] and [[AxCrazy violent killer]] but that doesn't stop his fanbase from waxing lyrical about how badass and [[EvilIsSexy sexy]] he is at every available opportunity. It's most likely [[ArousedByTheirVoice that voice]]. Or those [[WhatBeautifulEyes baby blue eyes.]] Or ''those lips''.

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* A subset of the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' fandom refer to themselves as 'Hoffbunnies' due to their all-consuming love for the franchise's resident MagnificentBastard, Detective Mark Hoffman. He may be a [[BitchInSheepsClothing heartless, sadistic]] and [[AxCrazy violent killer]] but that doesn't stop his fanbase from waxing lyrical about how badass and [[EvilIsSexy sexy]] he is at every available opportunity. It's most likely [[ArousedByTheirVoice that voice]]. Or those [[WhatBeautifulEyes baby blue eyes.]] Or ''those lips''.
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** Same with Mrs Lovett. Interprtations of her range from anti-villain to woobie, despite the fact that she knows what she's doing and that it's wrong, but doesn't care.

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** Same with Mrs Lovett. Interprtations Interpretations of her range from anti-villain to woobie, despite the fact that she knows what she's doing and that it's wrong, but doesn't care.
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** This has been augmented by actual neo-nazis and right-wing revisionists who fiercedly welcomed a non-negative portrayal of an SS officer (despite the fact that Landa is still [[MisaimedFandom far from a 'non-negative' portrayal of an SS officer]]) and exaggerated his virtues while overlooking his flaws, claiming the whole SS to have been like him. It makes even less sense if you remember that the ''one'' heroic thing Landa ever does (and it was just to guarantee he'd be a KarmaHoudini) was [[spoiler: blowing up Hitler, Goebbels, Goering, and Boorman]] - in other words, apparently [[LogicBomb neo-Nazis admire him for]] ''[[LogicBomb being anti-Nazi]]''.

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** This has been augmented by actual neo-nazis and right-wing revisionists who fiercedly welcomed a non-negative portrayal of an SS officer (despite the fact that Landa is still [[MisaimedFandom far from a 'non-negative' portrayal of an SS officer]]) and exaggerated his virtues while overlooking his flaws, claiming the whole SS to have been like him. It makes even less sense if you remember that the ''one'' heroic thing Landa ever does (and it was just to guarantee he'd be a KarmaHoudini) was [[spoiler: blowing up Hitler, Goebbels, Goering, and Boorman]] Bormann]] - in other words, apparently [[LogicBomb neo-Nazis admire him for]] ''[[LogicBomb being anti-Nazi]]''.
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** Sadako is given this as well, but by ''Ringu 0'' [[TearJerker it's much]] [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds more justifiable]].

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** Sadako Yamamura, her counterpart in the original Japanese films, is given this as well, but by ''Ringu 0'' [[TearJerker it's much]] [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds more justifiable]].
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** The Dark Side of the Force itself has one of the influential uses of this trope in media. A popular fanon idea was that the Dark Side was necessary half of the force to counteract the Light Side. Sort of like Yin and Yang. This idea (coupled with the expected DarkIsNotEvil)was given a significant amount of lip service the now non-canon ''Legends'' extended universe, but George Lucas himself has dismissed it. In his mind, the Dark Side inherently disturbs the Force and eliminating it means bringing balance to the Force. A number of other fandoms have been influenced by this Ying Yang model of the force however when they themselves dilp supernatural forces.
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* Andrew from ''Film/{{Chronicle}}'' has quite a bit of followers who feel sorry for him. He was merely a scrawny kid [[AbusiveParents with a violent, alcoholic father]], [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas a crippled and dying mother]], is bullied by everyone in school, and has a neglectful cousin, all of whom are no help to him whatsoever. However once he gets telepathy, he goes out for vengeance, even against those who have never met him and vice versa.

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* Andrew from ''Film/{{Chronicle}}'' has quite a bit of followers who feel sorry for him. He was merely a scrawny kid [[AbusiveParents with a violent, alcoholic father]], [[EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas a crippled and dying mother]], is bullied by everyone in school, and has a neglectful cousin, all of whom are no help to him whatsoever. However once he gets telepathy, telekinesis, he goes out for vengeance, even against those who have never met him and vice versa.
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The film's long since come out. And this is kind of odd because on the whole the films push him as an anti hero after Pitch Black, whether that's earned or not.


* From ''Franchise/TheChroniclesOfRiddick'' we have Richard B. Riddick. Central character, yes. Hero, no. Even as he's deepened and made more sympathetic, humanised even, as it becomes clear he admires honesty, bravery and honor, he's bent on his own survival. And none of that takes away from the fact that he is a murderer with serious mental issues, and he's only given more. He has a [[Film/{{Riddick}} third film]] planned. Apparently it involves revenge. Seriously girls, he's not your type.

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* From ''Franchise/TheChroniclesOfRiddick'' we have Richard B. Riddick. Central character, yes. Hero, no. Even as he's deepened and made more sympathetic, humanised even, as it becomes clear he admires honesty, bravery and honor, he's bent on his own survival. And none of that takes away from the fact that he is a murderer with serious mental issues, and he's only given more. He has a [[Film/{{Riddick}} third film]] planned. Apparently it involves revenge. Seriously girls, he's not your type.
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** King Ghidorah's ''[[MultipleHeadCase left head]]'' gets this treatment in ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'', where the fandom portrays him as Adorkable and the most friendly and innocent of the three and nicknaming him [[FanNickname Kevin]], even though in the film proper he's easily the most AxCrazy of the trio, happily incinerating human soldiers with his gravity beam and then licking up the charred remains.
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*** Likewise, Boba’s father, Jango Fett, while [[PapaWolf showcasing some tenderness towards Boba]] and being an unquestionable {{Badass}}, was still an assassin who tried to kill Amidala because his employer was peeved she had the nerve not to let him try and conquer her planet with little justification, who tried to kill Obi-Wan Kenobi, and killed his subordinate assassin to keep her from spilling the beans. Additionally, Jango let himself serve as a template for an army of clones, basically his brothers (or, given his relationship with Boba, his children), to serve as cannon fodder for a war that his contact helped start in the first place.

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*** Likewise, Boba’s father, Jango Fett, while [[PapaWolf showcasing some tenderness towards Boba]] and being an unquestionable {{Badass}}, badass, was still an assassin who tried to kill Amidala because his employer was peeved she had the nerve not to let him try and conquer her planet with little justification, who tried to kill Obi-Wan Kenobi, and killed his subordinate assassin to keep her from spilling the beans. Additionally, Jango let himself serve as a template for an army of clones, basically his brothers (or, given his relationship with Boba, his children), to serve as cannon fodder for a war that his contact helped start in the first place.

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** Boba Fett never really did anything in the original trilogy to showcase any kind of softer side. He was a mercenary who worked for gangsters and one of the most oppressive empires in history. He had to be reminded not to disintegrate his targets, and sounded disappointed about such a restriction. And his father, while showcasing some tenderness towards Boba, was still an assassin who tried to kill Amidala because his employer was peeved she had the nerve not to let him try and conquer her planet with little justification, and killed his subordinate to keep her from spilling the beans. And let himself serve as a template for an army of clones, basically his brothers (or, given his relationship with Boba, his children), to serve as cannon fodder for a war that his contact helped start in the first place. Boba Fett having a more sympathetic characterization is quite possibly a result of the ExpandedUniverse where he often wavers somewhere between AntiHero and AntiVillain. Even when he's presented as an out-and-out antagonist, those works tend to portray him as an almost elemental force rather than someone doing something villainous out of greed or immorality.

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** Boba Fett never really did anything in the original trilogy to showcase any kind of softer side. He was a mercenary who worked for gangsters and one of the most oppressive empires in history. He had to be reminded not to disintegrate his targets, and sounded disappointed about such a restriction. And his father, while showcasing some tenderness towards Boba, was still an assassin who tried to kill Amidala because his employer was peeved she had the nerve not to let him try and conquer her planet with little justification, and killed his subordinate to keep her from spilling the beans. And let himself serve Even as a template for an army of clones, basically his brothers (or, given his relationship with Boba, his children), to serve as cannon fodder for a war that his contact helped start child in the first place. prequels, Boba Fett was not averse to witnessing and partaking in violence against the Jedi. Boba having a more sympathetic characterization is quite possibly a result of the ExpandedUniverse where he often wavers somewhere between AntiHero and AntiVillain. Even when he's presented as an out-and-out antagonist, those works tend to portray him as an almost elemental force rather than someone doing something villainous out of greed or immorality.immorality.
*** Likewise, Boba’s father, Jango Fett, while [[PapaWolf showcasing some tenderness towards Boba]] and being an unquestionable {{Badass}}, was still an assassin who tried to kill Amidala because his employer was peeved she had the nerve not to let him try and conquer her planet with little justification, who tried to kill Obi-Wan Kenobi, and killed his subordinate assassin to keep her from spilling the beans. Additionally, Jango let himself serve as a template for an army of clones, basically his brothers (or, given his relationship with Boba, his children), to serve as cannon fodder for a war that his contact helped start in the first place.
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** Thanos in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' is given more depth than a typical MCU villain as he [[JerkassWoobie garners a large amount of sympathy]] and has a noble goal of trying to prevent an overpopulation crisis that would doom the universe. However, many people still forget that regardless of his motivations and backstory, Thanos is still a [[OmnicidalManiac genocidal madman]] whose ultimate plans involves killing half of the population of the universe as soon as he possesses the means to do so. In particular, they offer him a ''lot'' of sympathy because he's sad after [[spoiler:Gamora]] dies, completely ignoring the fact that he himself willingly sacrificed her for power. Then there's the fact that his ultimate plan of depopulation is [[ArtisticLicenseBiology scientifically unsound]] and [[InsaneTrollLogic logically unsound]], which would only cause needless deaths, and with the [[Superweapon Infinity Gauntlet]] he could do literally ''[[RealityWarper anything else]]'' to solve overpopulation, yet stuck to his plan of murdering half a universe.

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** Thanos in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' is given more depth than a typical MCU villain as he [[JerkassWoobie garners a large amount of sympathy]] and has a noble goal of trying to prevent an overpopulation crisis that would doom the universe. However, many people still forget that regardless of his motivations and backstory, Thanos is still a [[OmnicidalManiac genocidal madman]] whose ultimate plans involves killing half of the population of the universe as soon as he possesses the means to do so. In particular, they offer him a ''lot'' of sympathy because he's sad after [[spoiler:Gamora]] dies, completely ignoring the fact that he himself willingly sacrificed her for power. Then there's the fact that his ultimate plan of depopulation is [[ArtisticLicenseBiology scientifically unsound]] and [[InsaneTrollLogic logically unsound]], which would only cause needless deaths, and with the [[Superweapon [[{{Superweapon}} Infinity Gauntlet]] he could do literally ''[[RealityWarper anything else]]'' to solve overpopulation, yet stuck to his plan of murdering half a universe.
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** Thanos in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' is given more depth than a typical MCU villain as he [[JerkassWoobie garners a large amount of sympathy]] and has a noble goal of trying to prevent an overpopulation crisis that would doom the universe. However, many people still forget that regardless of his motivations and backstory, Thanos is still a [[OmnicidalManiac genocidal madman]] whose ultimate plans involves killing half of the population of the universe as soon as he possesses the means to do so. In particular, they offer him a ''lot'' of sympathy because he's sad after [[spoiler:Gamora]] dies, completely ignoring the fact that he himself willingly sacrificed her for power. Then there's the fact that his ultimate plan of depopulation is [[ArtisticLicenseBiology scientifically unsound]] and [[InsaneTrollLogic logically unsound]], which would only cause needless deaths.

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** Thanos in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' is given more depth than a typical MCU villain as he [[JerkassWoobie garners a large amount of sympathy]] and has a noble goal of trying to prevent an overpopulation crisis that would doom the universe. However, many people still forget that regardless of his motivations and backstory, Thanos is still a [[OmnicidalManiac genocidal madman]] whose ultimate plans involves killing half of the population of the universe as soon as he possesses the means to do so. In particular, they offer him a ''lot'' of sympathy because he's sad after [[spoiler:Gamora]] dies, completely ignoring the fact that he himself willingly sacrificed her for power. Then there's the fact that his ultimate plan of depopulation is [[ArtisticLicenseBiology scientifically unsound]] and [[InsaneTrollLogic logically unsound]], which would only cause needless deaths.deaths, and with the [[Superweapon Infinity Gauntlet]] he could do literally ''[[RealityWarper anything else]]'' to solve overpopulation, yet stuck to his plan of murdering half a universe.
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* ''Film/FightClub'': Some fans idolize Tyler Durden's anarchist philosophy and hyper-masculine ideals all while ignoring how he's exploiting his followers. Although Tyler rightfully points out how the capitalist society turns people into mindless slaves, he's still a manipulative hypocrite who uses Project Mayhem to turn frustrated men into mindless slaves who brutalize each other and commit acts of wanton domestic terrorism. For a person who preaches about liberation and restoring manhood, Tyler only causes further enslavement and emasculation.

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* ''Film/FightClub'': Some fans idolize Tyler Durden's anarchist philosophy and hyper-masculine ideals all while ignoring how he's he is exploiting his followers. Although Tyler rightfully points out how the capitalist society turns people into mindless slaves, he's still a manipulative hypocrite who uses Project Mayhem to turn frustrated men into mindless slaves who brutalize each other and commit acts of wanton domestic terrorism. For a person who preaches about liberation and restoring manhood, Tyler only causes further enslavement and emasculation.
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* Tajōmaru in ''Film/{{Rashomon}}''; It's true that he's played by the sexy, charismatic Creator/ToshiroMifune. And the establishing shot in his flashback, where he's show sleeping quietly under the shade of a huge tree, is bound to make a few women swoon. However, he's sweaty, gross, an unrepentant sexual predator, a pathological liar and a SmallNameBigEgo who's really not as fearless as he makes himself out to be. Also he has an AnnoyingLaugh. Some already acknowledge this but don't really care, because Mifune was a notorious MrFanservice. It doesn't help either that the husband in some of the flashbacks come across as a bit of a jerk to his wife painting Tajōmaru somewhat nobly.

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* Tajōmaru in ''Film/{{Rashomon}}''; It's true that he's played by the sexy, charismatic Creator/ToshiroMifune. And the establishing shot in his flashback, where he's show sleeping quietly under the shade of a huge tree, is bound to make a few women swoon. However, he's sweaty, gross, an unrepentant sexual predator, a pathological liar and a SmallNameBigEgo who's really not as fearless as he makes himself out to be. Also he has an AnnoyingLaugh. Some already acknowledge this but don't really care, because Mifune was a notorious MrFanservice. It doesn't help either that the husband in some of the flashbacks come across as a bit of a jerk to his wife painting Tajōmaru somewhat nobly.
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* ''Film/PansLabyrinth'': There are actually [[FanDumb people]] out there who honestly give this treatment to ''Captain Vidal''.

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* ''Film/PansLabyrinth'': There are actually [[FanDumb people]] people out there who honestly give this treatment to ''Captain Vidal''.
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* Alex from ''Film/AClockworkOrange''. True, he's the main character, his society and the adults in his life don't give a crap about him, and Creator/MalcolmMcDowell's performance is very compelling. He's still a sociopathic teenage psycho and Mary Sue fics where the author tries to redeem him with True Love miss the point. While the original book ''did'' have an epilogue chapter where he genuinely reforms after he becomes older and even thinks about eventually having a family, the film doesn't include this at all.

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* Alex from ''Film/AClockworkOrange''. True, he's the main character, his society and the adults in his life don't give a crap about him, and Creator/MalcolmMcDowell's performance is very compelling. He's still a sociopathic teenage psycho and Mary Sue fics where the author tries to redeem him with True Love miss the point. While the original book ''did'' have an epilogue chapter where he genuinely reforms after he becomes older and even thinks about eventually having a family, the film doesn't include this at all.



* Just like the ''Nightmare'' series below, ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' has a pretty weird fan base that for some reason thinks Jason Voorhees is not only a SympatheticMurderer, but also sexy enough for their MarySue to be attracted to. Jason is badly deformed with serious mental deficiencies. But those are things that make him ''pitiable,'' not attractive. Later on he becomes undead to an increasing degree. And he's not going to return your sexy feelings anyway. Even taking everything else into account, he's very clearly a psychopathic manchild who exists to kill anybody who trespasses on his territory, once stated to have been posessed by a demon, and he ''hates'' sex.

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* Just like the ''Nightmare'' series below, ''Franchise/FridayThe13th'' has a pretty weird fan base that for some reason thinks Jason Voorhees is not only a SympatheticMurderer, but also sexy enough for their MarySue OC to be attracted to. Jason is badly deformed with serious mental deficiencies. But those are things that make him ''pitiable,'' not attractive. Later on he becomes undead to an increasing degree. And he's not going to return your sexy feelings anyway. Even taking everything else into account, he's very clearly a psychopathic manchild who exists to kill anybody who trespasses on his territory, once stated to have been posessed by a demon, and he ''hates'' sex.



* Prince Nuada from ''Film/HellboyIITheGoldenArmy'' suffers this in spades. He's a ruthless self-exiled prince intent on wiping out the entire human race, and fangirls have instead painted him as a major WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds - more so than the film, anyway - who eventually sees the error of his ways, goes completely out of character, and falls in love with the MarySue who are normally human, which he outright hates in the film.

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* Prince Nuada from ''Film/HellboyIITheGoldenArmy'' suffers this in spades. He's a ruthless self-exiled prince intent on wiping out the entire human race, and fangirls have instead painted him as a major WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds - more so than the film, anyway - who eventually sees the error of his ways, goes completely out of character, and falls in love with the MarySue OC who are normally human, which he outright hates in the film.



** ''Everybody'' in ''Film/InglouriousBasterds'' FanFic gets this treatment, but Donny (the Bear Jew), Landa, and Stiglitz get the worst of it by far. And there was that one MarySue fic that made Donny speak fluent Finnish to communicate with the Mary Sue.

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** ''Everybody'' in ''Film/InglouriousBasterds'' FanFic gets this treatment, but Donny (the Bear Jew), Landa, and Stiglitz get the worst of it by far. And there was that one MarySue fic that made Donny speak fluent Finnish to communicate with the Mary Sue.



** While Captain Jack Sparrow has his noble moments, the movies make it clear that he has done many unsavory things in his life, as well as tending to throw other people over to save his own skin. His snarkiness, attractiveness, and the fact that he is played by Creator/JohnnyDepp means that there are fan girls aplenty who insist that he's the sweetest guy ever, that Will, Elizabeth, and the British Royal Navy are a bunch of assholes for getting pissed at his double-crossing, and that he'd surely be a faithful lover to the various [[MarySue Mary Sues]] in fanfictions. Keep in mind that even in ''[[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanOnStrangerTides On Stranger Tides]]'', when Jack is given an official love interest, the movie still ends with [[spoiler:him leaving her stranded an island, looking vaguely horrified when she tries to trick him into staying by lying that she's pregnant with his child.]]
** Amazingly, Davy Jones can get this. Yes he has a tragic backstory, but it's also made clear that he has become heartless in every sense of the word. Yet there are fangirls who have him deciding that [[spoiler:Tia Dalma/Calypso]] is a bitch that he doesn't care about and falling into the arms of the nearest MarySue. Maybe it's because he's played by Creator/BillNighy...

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** While Captain Jack Sparrow has his noble moments, the movies make it clear that he has done many unsavory things in his life, as well as tending to throw other people over to save his own skin. His snarkiness, attractiveness, and the fact that he is played by Creator/JohnnyDepp means that there are fan girls aplenty who insist that he's the sweetest guy ever, that Will, Elizabeth, and the British Royal Navy are a bunch of assholes for getting pissed at his double-crossing, and that he'd surely be a faithful lover to the various [[MarySue Mary Sues]] OCs in fanfictions. Keep in mind that even in ''[[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanOnStrangerTides On Stranger Tides]]'', when Jack is given an official love interest, the movie still ends with [[spoiler:him leaving her stranded an island, looking vaguely horrified when she tries to trick him into staying by lying that she's pregnant with his child.]]
** Amazingly, Davy Jones can get this. Yes he has a tragic backstory, but it's also made clear that he has become heartless in every sense of the word. Yet there are fangirls who have him deciding that [[spoiler:Tia Dalma/Calypso]] is a bitch that he doesn't care about and falling into the arms of the nearest MarySue.OC. Maybe it's because he's played by Creator/BillNighy...



* Lash, one of the school bullies who joins up with [[BigBad Royal Pain]] in ''Film/SkyHigh2005'', has a surprising amount of steamy fanfics written about him (usually involving him and Layla Draco-and-Hermione-style, or [[MarySue an OC]] redeeming him during or after the movie's events).

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* Lash, one of the school bullies who joins up with [[BigBad Royal Pain]] in ''Film/SkyHigh2005'', has a surprising amount of steamy fanfics written about him (usually involving him and Layla Draco-and-Hermione-style, or [[MarySue an OC]] OC redeeming him during or after the movie's events).
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** Godzilla is a bit of an interesting case. From the beginning, the character was intended to be a metaphor for nuclear weapons and their destructive potential, but as he grew more popular he was increasingly cast as a protagonist. However, the nuclear weapons metaphor aspect remained intact, but for a different reason. Instead of the metaphor being that nukes are pure evil, the metaphor now is that they are dangerous, and you really don't want to have to use them. This, in other words, is where we get the GodzillaThreshold.
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** Thanos in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' is given more depth than a typical MCU villain as he [[JerkassWoobie garners amount of sympathy]] and has a noble goal of trying to prevent an overpopulation crisis that would doom the universe. However, many people still forget that regardless of his motivations and backstory, Thanos is still a [[OmnicidalManiac genocidal madman]] whose ultimate plans involves killing half of the population of the universe as soon as he possesses the means to do so. In particular, they offer him a ''lot'' of sympathy because he's sad after [[spoiler:Gamora]] dies, completely ignoring the fact that he himself willingly sacrificed her for power. Then there's the fact that his ultimate plan of depopulation is [[ArtisticLicenseBiology scientifically unsound]] and [[InsaneTrollLogic logically unsound]], which would only cause needless deaths.

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** Thanos in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' is given more depth than a typical MCU villain as he [[JerkassWoobie garners a large amount of sympathy]] and has a noble goal of trying to prevent an overpopulation crisis that would doom the universe. However, many people still forget that regardless of his motivations and backstory, Thanos is still a [[OmnicidalManiac genocidal madman]] whose ultimate plans involves killing half of the population of the universe as soon as he possesses the means to do so. In particular, they offer him a ''lot'' of sympathy because he's sad after [[spoiler:Gamora]] dies, completely ignoring the fact that he himself willingly sacrificed her for power. Then there's the fact that his ultimate plan of depopulation is [[ArtisticLicenseBiology scientifically unsound]] and [[InsaneTrollLogic logically unsound]], which would only cause needless deaths.
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* Lash, one of the school bullies who joins up with [[BigBad Royal Pain]] in ''Film/SkyHigh2005'', has a surprising amount of steamy fanfics written about him (usually involving him and Layla Draco-and-Hermione-style).

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* Lash, one of the school bullies who joins up with [[BigBad Royal Pain]] in ''Film/SkyHigh2005'', has a surprising amount of steamy fanfics written about him (usually involving him and Layla Draco-and-Hermione-style).Draco-and-Hermione-style, or [[MarySue an OC]] redeeming him during or after the movie's events).
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* ''Film/FightClub'': Some fans have latched onto Tyler Durden's anarchist philosophy and hyper-masculine ideals all the while ignoring how he's exploiting the people who would idolize him. Although Tyler rightfully points out how the capitalist society turns people into mindless slaves, he's still a manipulative hypocrite who uses Project Mayhem to turn frustrated men into mindless slaves who brutalize each other and commit acts of wanton domestic terrorism. For a person who preaches about liberation and restoring manhood, Tyler only causes further enslavement and emasculation.

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* ''Film/FightClub'': Some fans have latched onto idolize Tyler Durden's anarchist philosophy and hyper-masculine ideals all the while ignoring how he's exploiting the people who would idolize him.his followers. Although Tyler rightfully points out how the capitalist society turns people into mindless slaves, he's still a manipulative hypocrite who uses Project Mayhem to turn frustrated men into mindless slaves who brutalize each other and commit acts of wanton domestic terrorism. For a person who preaches about liberation and restoring manhood, Tyler only causes further enslavement and emasculation.
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* ''Film/FightClub'''s Tyler Durden has a disturbing number of fans who his anarchist philosophy and hyper-masculine image. While Tyler rightfully points out how the capitalist society turns people into mindless slaves, he's still a sociopathic hypocrite who uses Project Mayhem to turn frustrated men into mindless slaves who brutalize each other and commit acts of domestic terrorism without finding genuine purpose and meaning. For a person who preaches about liberating normal people, Tyler only wants to replace one repressive system with another equally repressive system.

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* ''Film/FightClub'''s ''Film/FightClub'': Some fans have latched onto Tyler Durden has a disturbing number of fans who his Durden's anarchist philosophy and hyper-masculine image. While ideals all the while ignoring how he's exploiting the people who would idolize him. Although Tyler rightfully points out how the capitalist society turns people into mindless slaves, he's still a sociopathic manipulative hypocrite who uses Project Mayhem to turn frustrated men into mindless slaves who brutalize each other and commit acts of wanton domestic terrorism without finding genuine purpose and meaning. terrorism. For a person who preaches about liberating normal people, liberation and restoring manhood, Tyler only wants to replace one repressive system with another equally repressive system.causes further enslavement and emasculation.
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* ''Film/FightClub'''s Tyler Durden has a disturbing number of fans who his anarchist philosophy and hyper-masculine image. While Tyler rightfully points out how the capitalist society turns people into mindless slaves, he's still a sociopathic hypocrite who uses Project Mayhem to turn frustrated men into mindless slaves who brutalize each other and commit acts of domestic terrorism without finding genuine purpose and meaning. For a person who preaches about liberating normal people, Tyler only wants to replace one repressive system with another equally repressive system.

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