History DorkAge / VideoGames

29th Mar '18 2:06:34 PM bowserbros
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* Nintendo has begun to hear accusations of this in TheNewTens; while most of their games continue to be well-received by fans and critics alike, their gameplay has gradually become more and more streamlined to cater to Japanese audiences, whom Ken Sugimori described as increasingly impatient as a result of the growing prevalence of smartphones and the internet in Japan. This has led to game design choices that have ranged from questionable to outright [[BrokenBase controversial]] (most notably in the case of ''Paper Mario'' and ''Metroid''). This was coupled by the failure of the Wii U due to a poor selection of games and a terrible marketing campaign. Meanwhile, Nintendo of America has come under criticism for its localization practices, with a noticeable rise in [[WereStillRelevantDammit references to internet memes]] and [[{{Bowdlerise}} acts of censorship]] that many have deemed unnecessary (despite much of said censorship being implemented to conform to [[ValuesDissonance differences in content standards]] between Japan and the United States, with age of consent being the most prominent one) as well as their DMCA takedowns of fangames such as ''[[VideoGame/AnotherMetroid2Remake AM2R]]''. However, with the commercial success of the Wii U's successor, the UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch, and the widespread critical acclaim of games such as ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'' in 2017, Nintendo appears to be exiting this notable DorkAge. In addition, they've been cutting back on the censorship, possibly in an attempt to fight the "kid-friendly" image that stuck with them for so long, and ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2'', unlike the [[VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX previous installment]] (which had some features cut and some revealing articles of clothing altered to be less revealing), was actually released in America unaltered from the Japanese version (except for some dialog changes in the English voice track), with an option for the original Japanese voice track through free [=DLC=].

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* Nintendo has begun to hear heard accusations of this in throughout much of TheNewTens; while most of their games continue to be well-received by fans and critics alike, their gameplay has gradually become more and more streamlined to cater to Japanese audiences, whom Ken Sugimori described as increasingly impatient as a result of the growing prevalence of smartphones and the internet in Japan. This has led to game design choices that have ranged from questionable to outright [[BrokenBase controversial]] (most notably in the case of ''Paper Mario'' and ''Metroid''). This was coupled by the failure of the Wii U due to a poor selection of games and a terrible marketing campaign. Meanwhile, Nintendo of America has come under criticism for its localization practices, with a noticeable rise in [[WereStillRelevantDammit references to internet memes]] and [[{{Bowdlerise}} acts of censorship]] that many have deemed unnecessary (despite much of said censorship being implemented to conform to [[ValuesDissonance differences in content standards]] between Japan and the United States, with age of consent being the most prominent one) as well as their DMCA takedowns of fangames such as ''[[VideoGame/AnotherMetroid2Remake AM2R]]''. However, with the commercial success of the Wii U's successor, the UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch, and the widespread critical acclaim of games such as ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'' and ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey'' in 2017, Nintendo appears to be exiting this notable DorkAge. In addition, they've been cutting back on the censorship, possibly in an attempt to fight the "kid-friendly" image that stuck with them for so long, and ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2'', unlike the [[VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX previous installment]] (which had some features cut and some revealing articles of clothing altered to be less revealing), was actually released in America unaltered from the Japanese version (except for some dialog changes in the English voice track), with an option for the original Japanese voice track through free [=DLC=].
20th Mar '18 10:36:42 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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The first non-Team Silent game, ''VideoGame/SilentHillOrigins'', a {{prequel}} by the British developer, Climax Studios, was seen as a rather meager entry for having a main character who's own motivation and goal was rather vague at best and weak at worst, and having some rather glaring {{Series Continuity Error}}s. ''VideoGame/SilentHillHomecoming'', developed by the American developer, Double Helix, was met with some degree of skepticism, as some fans felt that it was too slanted towards being an ActionizedSequel, amongst other criticisms like the game being too "Americanized", taking too many cues from the somewhat controversial ''Film/SilentHill'' film, and favoring PanderingToTheBase over actual symbolism, but on the whole the game ended up being mostly seen as SoOkayItsAverage. ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'' broke the fanbase further, between those convinced that the series remained mired in suck, and those who believe this entry was fresh and compelling enough to possibly signal a revival of the franchise.\\\

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The first non-Team Silent game, ''VideoGame/SilentHillOrigins'', a {{prequel}} by the British developer, Climax Studios, was seen as a rather meager entry for having a main character who's own motivation and goal was rather vague at best and weak outright filmsy at worst, and having some rather glaring {{Series Continuity Error}}s. ''VideoGame/SilentHillHomecoming'', developed by the American developer, Double Helix, was met with some degree of skepticism, as some fans felt that it was too slanted towards being an ActionizedSequel, amongst other criticisms like the game being too "Americanized", taking too many cues from the somewhat controversial ''Film/SilentHill'' film, and favoring PanderingToTheBase over actual symbolism, but on the whole the game ended up being mostly seen as SoOkayItsAverage. ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'' broke the fanbase further, between those convinced that the series remained mired in suck, and those who believe this entry was fresh and compelling enough to possibly signal a revival of the franchise.\\\
20th Mar '18 10:36:00 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* ''Franchise/SilentHill'' is notorious for its horribly BrokenBase, but most fans will agree that the series peaked with the [[VideoGame/SilentHill1 first]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill2 three]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill3 games]], and the existence of a franchise DorkAge is nearly unanimous. The general summation of this is a [[CreatorWorship reverence for "Team Silent"]] and a [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight mistrust of the games in which this development team was not involved]], though the consensus is that ''VideoGame/SilentHill4: The Room'', the last of the Team Silent entries (and a DolledUpInstallment), is where the slide began. The first non-Team Silent game, ''VideoGame/SilentHillHomecoming'', developed by the American developer, Double Helix, was met with some degree of skepticism, as some fans felt that it was too slanted towards being an ActionizedSequel, amongst other criticisms like the game being too "Americanized", taking too many cues from the somewhat controversial ''Film/SilentHill'' film, and favoring PanderingToTheBase over actual symbolism, but on the whole the game ended up being mostly seen as SoOkayItsAverage. ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'' broke the fanbase further, between those convinced that the series remained mired in suck, and those who believe this entry was fresh and compelling enough to possibly signal a revival of the franchise. Reception to ''VideoGame/SilentHillDownpour'' was far more positive, and the announcement of ''VideoGame/SilentHills'' got even the most jaded fans interested in the series again... until [[{{Vaporware}} it got canceled]] in a dreadful case of [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed by the Publisher]], which (along with the announcement of a ''Silent Hill'' slot machine) has many fans wishing the Ten Plagues on Creator/{{Konami}} and fearing that the series may never escape its Dork Age.

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* ''Franchise/SilentHill'' is notorious for its horribly BrokenBase, but most fans will agree that the series peaked with the [[VideoGame/SilentHill1 first]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill2 three]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill3 games]], and the existence of a franchise DorkAge is nearly unanimous. The general summation of this is a [[CreatorWorship reverence for "Team Silent"]] and a [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight mistrust of the games in which this development team was not involved]], though the consensus is that ''VideoGame/SilentHill4: The Room'', the last of the Team Silent entries (and a DolledUpInstallment), is where the slide began. \\\
The first non-Team Silent game, ''VideoGame/SilentHillOrigins'', a {{prequel}} by the British developer, Climax Studios, was seen as a rather meager entry for having a main character who's own motivation and goal was rather vague at best and weak at worst, and having some rather glaring {{Series Continuity Error}}s. ''VideoGame/SilentHillHomecoming'', developed by the American developer, Double Helix, was met with some degree of skepticism, as some fans felt that it was too slanted towards being an ActionizedSequel, amongst other criticisms like the game being too "Americanized", taking too many cues from the somewhat controversial ''Film/SilentHill'' film, and favoring PanderingToTheBase over actual symbolism, but on the whole the game ended up being mostly seen as SoOkayItsAverage. ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'' broke the fanbase further, between those convinced that the series remained mired in suck, and those who believe this entry was fresh and compelling enough to possibly signal a revival of the franchise. \\\
Reception to ''VideoGame/SilentHillDownpour'' was far more positive, and the announcement of ''VideoGame/SilentHills'' got even the most jaded fans interested in the series again... until [[{{Vaporware}} it got canceled]] in a dreadful case of [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed by the Publisher]], which (along with the announcement of a ''Silent Hill'' slot machine) has many fans wishing the Ten Plagues on Creator/{{Konami}} and fearing that the series may never escape its Dork Age.
20th Mar '18 10:23:23 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* ''Franchise/SilentHill'' is notorious for its horribly BrokenBase, but most fans will agree that the series peaked with the [[VideoGame/SilentHill1 first]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill2 three]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill3 games]], and the existence of a franchise DorkAge is nearly unanimous. The general summation of this is a [[CreatorWorship reverence for "Team Silent"]] and a [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight mistrust of the games in which this development team was not involved]], though the consensus is that ''VideoGame/SilentHill4: The Room'', the last of the Team Silent entries (and a DolledUpInstallment), is where the slide began. ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'' broke the fanbase further, between those convinced that the series remained mired in suck, and those who believe this entry was fresh and compelling enough to possibly signal a revival of the franchise. Reception to ''VideoGame/SilentHillDownpour'' was far more positive, and the announcement of ''VideoGame/SilentHills'' got even the most jaded fans interested in the series again... until [[{{Vaporware}} it got canceled]] in a dreadful case of [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed by the Publisher]], which (along with the announcement of a ''Silent Hill'' slot machine) has many fans wishing the Ten Plagues on Creator/{{Konami}} and fearing that the series may never escape its Dork Age.

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* ''Franchise/SilentHill'' is notorious for its horribly BrokenBase, but most fans will agree that the series peaked with the [[VideoGame/SilentHill1 first]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill2 three]] [[VideoGame/SilentHill3 games]], and the existence of a franchise DorkAge is nearly unanimous. The general summation of this is a [[CreatorWorship reverence for "Team Silent"]] and a [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight mistrust of the games in which this development team was not involved]], though the consensus is that ''VideoGame/SilentHill4: The Room'', the last of the Team Silent entries (and a DolledUpInstallment), is where the slide began. The first non-Team Silent game, ''VideoGame/SilentHillHomecoming'', developed by the American developer, Double Helix, was met with some degree of skepticism, as some fans felt that it was too slanted towards being an ActionizedSequel, amongst other criticisms like the game being too "Americanized", taking too many cues from the somewhat controversial ''Film/SilentHill'' film, and favoring PanderingToTheBase over actual symbolism, but on the whole the game ended up being mostly seen as SoOkayItsAverage. ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'' broke the fanbase further, between those convinced that the series remained mired in suck, and those who believe this entry was fresh and compelling enough to possibly signal a revival of the franchise. Reception to ''VideoGame/SilentHillDownpour'' was far more positive, and the announcement of ''VideoGame/SilentHills'' got even the most jaded fans interested in the series again... until [[{{Vaporware}} it got canceled]] in a dreadful case of [[ScrewedByTheNetwork Screwed by the Publisher]], which (along with the announcement of a ''Silent Hill'' slot machine) has many fans wishing the Ten Plagues on Creator/{{Konami}} and fearing that the series may never escape its Dork Age.
5th Mar '18 3:21:20 PM Chasem
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* The "Compilation of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII''", spearheaded by ''Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren'', is seen as one for the ''[=FF7=]'' sub-franchise. ''Advent Children'' was met with highly mixed reception, and many fans were not happy with the {{Flanderization}} of various characters, particularly Cloud into the kind of "emo pretty-boy" stereotype that [[NeverLiveItDown eventually became a frequent point of criticism]] for ''Final Fantasy'', and Square Enix, as a whole. As the Compilation continued to build up, ''[=FF7=]'' lost much of its prestige and recognition; most of the other entries were also met with similar criticisms and mixed reception -- barring a few standouts like ''VideoGame/CrisisCoreFinalFantasyVII'', which nonetheless [[ToughActToFollow weren't as prestigious and loved as the original game]]. ''[=FF7's=]'' reputation only started to see a rise again with the announcement of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' and Cloud's addition to ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', both of which were driven by HolyShitQuotient reactions and drew heavily from the original game while ignoring developments from ''Advent Children'' and the rest of the Compilation.[[note]]However, Cloud's popular ''Advent Children'' costume is an alternate costume in ''Smash''.[[/note]]

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* The "Compilation of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII''", spearheaded by ''Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren'', is seen as one for the ''[=FF7=]'' sub-franchise. ''Advent Children'' was met with highly mixed reception, and many fans were not happy with the {{Flanderization}} of various characters, particularly Cloud into Cloud, who was bashed as the kind of "emo pretty-boy" stereotype that [[NeverLiveItDown eventually became a frequent point of criticism]] for ''Final Fantasy'', and Square Enix, as a whole. As the Compilation continued to build up, ''[=FF7=]'' lost much of its prestige and recognition; most of the other entries were also met with similar criticisms and mixed reception -- barring a few standouts like ''VideoGame/CrisisCoreFinalFantasyVII'', which nonetheless [[ToughActToFollow weren't as prestigious and loved as the original game]]. ''[=FF7's=]'' reputation only started to see a rise again with the announcement of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' and Cloud's addition to ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', both of which were driven by HolyShitQuotient reactions and drew heavily from the original game while ignoring developments from ''Advent Children'' and the rest of the Compilation.[[note]]However, Cloud's popular ''Advent Children'' costume is an alternate costume in ''Smash''.[[/note]]
5th Mar '18 3:20:30 PM Chasem
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* The "Compilation of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII''", spearheaded by ''Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren'', is seen as one for the ''[=FF7=]'' sub-franchise. ''Advent Children'' was met with highly mixed reception, and many fans were not happy with the {{Flanderization}} of various characters, particularly Cloud into the kind of "emo pretty-boy" stereotype that [[NeverLiveItDown eventually became a frequent point of criticism]] for ''Final Fantasy'', and Square Enix, as a whole. As the Compilation continued to build up, ''[=FF7=]'' lost much of its prestige and recognition; most of the other entries were also met with similar criticisms and mixed reception barring a few standouts like ''VideoGame/CrisisCoreFinalFantasyVII'' which nonetheless [[ToughActToFollow weren't as prestigious and loved as the original game]]. ''[=FF7's=]'' reputation only started to see a rise again with the announcement of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' and Cloud's addition to ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', both of which were driven by HolyShitQuotient reactions and drew heavily from the original game while ignoring developments from ''Advent Children'' and the rest of the Compilation.[[note]]However, Cloud's popular ''Advent Children'' costume is an alternate costume in ''Smash''.[[/note]]

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* The "Compilation of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII''", spearheaded by ''Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren'', is seen as one for the ''[=FF7=]'' sub-franchise. ''Advent Children'' was met with highly mixed reception, and many fans were not happy with the {{Flanderization}} of various characters, particularly Cloud into the kind of "emo pretty-boy" stereotype that [[NeverLiveItDown eventually became a frequent point of criticism]] for ''Final Fantasy'', and Square Enix, as a whole. As the Compilation continued to build up, ''[=FF7=]'' lost much of its prestige and recognition; most of the other entries were also met with similar criticisms and mixed reception -- barring a few standouts like ''VideoGame/CrisisCoreFinalFantasyVII'' ''VideoGame/CrisisCoreFinalFantasyVII'', which nonetheless [[ToughActToFollow weren't as prestigious and loved as the original game]]. ''[=FF7's=]'' reputation only started to see a rise again with the announcement of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' and Cloud's addition to ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', both of which were driven by HolyShitQuotient reactions and drew heavily from the original game while ignoring developments from ''Advent Children'' and the rest of the Compilation.[[note]]However, Cloud's popular ''Advent Children'' costume is an alternate costume in ''Smash''.[[/note]]
5th Mar '18 3:20:06 PM Chasem
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* The "Compilation of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII''", spearheaded by ''Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren'', is seen as one for the ''[=FF7=]'' sub-franchise. ''Advent Children'' was met with highly mixed reception, and many fans were not happy with the {{Flanderization}} of various characters, particularly Cloud into the kind of "emo pretty-boy" stereotype that [[NeverLiveItDown eventually became a frequent point of criticism]] for ''Final Fantasy'', and Square Enix, as a whole. As the Compilation continued to build up, ''[=FF7=]'' lost much of its prestige and recognition; most of the other entries were also met with similar criticisms and mixed reception barring a few standouts like ''VideoGame/CrisisCoreFinalFantasyVII'' which nonetheless [[ToughActToFollow weren't as prestigious and loved as the original game]]. ''[=FF7's=]'' reputation only started to see a rise again with the announcement of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' and Cloud's addition to ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', both of which were driven by HolyShitQuotient reactions and drew heavily from the original game while ignoring developments from ''Advent Children'' and the rest of the Compilation.[[note]]However, Cloud's popular ''Advent Children'' costume is an alternate costume in ''Smash''.[[/note]]
2nd Mar '18 10:27:18 AM BZL8
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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' has hit a very debatable one from ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' onwards. While the franchise is in fantastic health and the games have reached mainstream success not seen since ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', many fans argue that the games are becoming increasingly shallow and dodgy in order to prioritize merchandising and marketing (which, in turn, may be ''why'' they're so successful), with each game having glaring technical issues, removing large amounts of features, and having increasingly shallow postgame content. There are some fans who will extend the DorkAge back to the previous generation, ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', as those games were less successful with mainstream audiences and boasted the AudienceAlienatingPremise of only providing new Pokémon during the game -- many of which were [[ReplacementScrappy replacement scrappies]] or [[BaseBreakingCharacter very divisive]] in their own right. However, including ''BW'' in the Dork Age is a debate unto itself, as the generation also has many defenders for trying to shake up the formula and do something different, and at the very least it's controversial for completely different reasons than the later 3DS entries. This DorkAge is taken even further in some foreign markets (French Canada, Latin America, and China), due to the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks controversy]] over eliminating and/or "homogenizing" their local translations of the games and franchise.
28th Feb '18 10:45:21 AM Chasem
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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' has hit a very debatable one from ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' onwards. While the franchise is in fantastic health and the games have reached mainstream success not seen since ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', many fans argue that the games are becoming increasingly shallow and dodgy in order to prioritize merchandising and marketing (which, in turn, may be ''why'' they're so successful), with each game having glaring technical issues, removing large amounts of features, and having increasingly shallow postgame content. There are some fans who will extend the DorkAge back to the previous generation, ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', as those games were less successful with mainstream audiences and boasted the AudienceAlienatingPremise of only providing new Pokémon during the game -- many of which were [[ReplacementScrappy replacement scrappies]] or [[BaseBreakingCharacter very divisive]] in their own right. However, including ''BW'' in the Dork Age is a debate unto itself, as the generation also has many defenders for trying to shake up the formula and do something different, and at the very least it's controversial for completely different reasons than the later 3DS entries.

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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' has hit a very debatable one from ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' onwards. While the franchise is in fantastic health and the games have reached mainstream success not seen since ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', many fans argue that the games are becoming increasingly shallow and dodgy in order to prioritize merchandising and marketing (which, in turn, may be ''why'' they're so successful), with each game having glaring technical issues, removing large amounts of features, and having increasingly shallow postgame content. There are some fans who will extend the DorkAge back to the previous generation, ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', as those games were less successful with mainstream audiences and boasted the AudienceAlienatingPremise of only providing new Pokémon during the game -- many of which were [[ReplacementScrappy replacement scrappies]] or [[BaseBreakingCharacter very divisive]] in their own right. However, including ''BW'' in the Dork Age is a debate unto itself, as the generation also has many defenders for trying to shake up the formula and do something different, and at the very least it's controversial for completely different reasons than the later 3DS entries. This DorkAge is taken even further in some foreign markets (French Canada, Latin America, and China), due to the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks controversy]] over eliminating and/or "homogenizing" their local translations of the games and franchise.
28th Feb '18 10:32:19 AM Chasem
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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' has hit a very debatable one from ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' onwards. While the franchise is in fantastic health and the games have reached mainstream success not seen since ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', many fans argue that the games are becoming increasingly shallow and dodgy in order to prioritize merchandising and marketing (which, in turn, may be ''why'' they're so successful), with each game having glaring technical issues, removing large amounts of features, and having increasingly shallow postgame content. There are some fans who will extend the DorkAge back to the previous generation, ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', as those games were less successful with mainstream audiences and boasted the AudienceAlienatingPremise of only providing new Pokémon during the game -- many of which were [[ReplacementScrappy replacement scrappies]] or [[BaseBreakingCharacter very divisive]] in their own right. However, including ''BW'' in the Dork Age is a debate unto itself, as the generation also has many defenders for trying to shake up the formula and do something different.

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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' has hit a very debatable one from ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' onwards. While the franchise is in fantastic health and the games have reached mainstream success not seen since ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'', many fans argue that the games are becoming increasingly shallow and dodgy in order to prioritize merchandising and marketing (which, in turn, may be ''why'' they're so successful), with each game having glaring technical issues, removing large amounts of features, and having increasingly shallow postgame content. There are some fans who will extend the DorkAge back to the previous generation, ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'', as those games were less successful with mainstream audiences and boasted the AudienceAlienatingPremise of only providing new Pokémon during the game -- many of which were [[ReplacementScrappy replacement scrappies]] or [[BaseBreakingCharacter very divisive]] in their own right. However, including ''BW'' in the Dork Age is a debate unto itself, as the generation also has many defenders for trying to shake up the formula and do something different.different, and at the very least it's controversial for completely different reasons than the later 3DS entries.
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