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** It says a lot about how badly yuri fans have been burned out by baiting when there is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, even ones that threaten [[PortmanteauCoupleName SuleMio]], which includes Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta (who ''actually'' considers killing Miorine so that she can have Suletta all to herself), or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff. This is partly for YuriFan reasons, and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).

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** It says a lot about how badly yuri fans have been burned out by baiting when there is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, even ones that threaten [[PortmanteauCoupleName SuleMio]], which includes Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta (who ''actually'' considers killing Miorine so that she can have Suletta all to herself), or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend Miorine's ChildhoodFriend that has feelings for her in a the light novel spinoff.adaptation. This is partly for YuriFan reasons, and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).
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** The ire of [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Athrun Zala]]/[[{{Tsundere}} Cagalli Yula Athha]] fans, after [[ShipSinking canon went against them]] in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Gundam SEED Destiny]]'', brought ''lots'' of bashing of [[NaiveEverygirl Meyrin Hawke]], [[{{Shorttank}} Lunamaria "Luna" Hawke]] and [[{{Stripperiffic}} Meer Campbell]]... to the point that some people have either: a) sworn off both series as a whole SOLELY for the ShipSinking; b) sworn off the Athrun/Cagalli pairing, or c) ''bashed Athrun/Cagalli back'' for the evil it inflicted on their girls or ships - especially poor Cagalli.

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** The ire of [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Athrun Zala]]/[[{{Tsundere}} Cagalli Yula Athha]] fans, after [[ShipSinking canon went against them]] them in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Gundam SEED Destiny]]'', brought ''lots'' of bashing of [[NaiveEverygirl Meyrin Hawke]], [[{{Shorttank}} Lunamaria "Luna" Hawke]] and [[{{Stripperiffic}} Meer Campbell]]... to the point that some people have either: a) sworn off both series as a whole SOLELY for the ShipSinking; b) sworn off the Athrun/Cagalli pairing, or c) ''bashed Athrun/Cagalli back'' for the evil it inflicted on their girls or ships - especially poor Cagalli.
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** Guel is probably the biggest recipient of this. Guel's character as written in the series goes through development, starting out as a violent JerkJock and Miorine's initial entirely-loveless partner, but then losing Miorine,being humbled, and becoming increasingly kinder, in part due to an unrequited crush on [[LoveAtFirstPunch Suletta, the first girl to ever beat him honorably]]. However, though he is generally popular, the show's yuri fandom was probably slowest to forgive him. This was not helped by the fact that, as he was the most prominent male character, people who disliked the series for, frankly, misogynistic and/or homophobic reasons latched onto Guel as the "real protagonist" as a way to instigate conflict, even loudly supporting Guel/Suletta despite whole miniarcs going by without them interacting nor Suletta even thinking about him. Even after that pairing was about as sunken as it could be (Guel confesses his feelings properly, Suletta declares herself taken and lets him down gently, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he accepts this]]) and [[ShipperOnDeck Guel had made it clear that he actually supported Suletta and Miorine getting together]], he still proved visibly more controversial among the yuri fandom due to being seen as a SpotlightStealingSquad in the show's very packed second cour beyond just shipping reasons.
** It says a lot about how badly yuri fans have been burned out by baiting when there is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples even ones that threaten [[PortmanteauCoupleName SuleMio]] such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta (who ''actually'' considers killing Miorine so that she can have Suletta all to herself), or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).

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** Guel is probably the biggest recipient of this. Guel's character as written in the series goes through development, starting starts out as a violent JerkJock and Miorine's initial entirely-loveless partner, but then losing Miorine,being loses Miorine, gets humbled, and becoming becomes increasingly kinder, in part due to an unrequited crush on [[LoveAtFirstPunch Suletta, the first girl to ever beat him honorably]]. However, though he is generally popular, the show's yuri fandom was probably slowest to forgive him. This was not helped by the fact that, as he was the most prominent male character, people who disliked the series for, frankly, misogynistic and/or homophobic reasons latched onto Guel as the "real protagonist" as a way to instigate conflict, even loudly supporting Guel/Suletta despite whole miniarcs going by without them interacting nor Suletta even thinking about him. Even after that pairing was about as sunken as it could be (Guel confesses his feelings properly, Suletta declares herself taken and lets him down gently, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he accepts this]]) and [[ShipperOnDeck Guel had made makes it clear that he actually supported Suletta and Miorine getting together]], he still proved visibly more controversial among the yuri fandom due to being seen as a SpotlightStealingSquad in the show's very packed second cour cour, beyond just shipping reasons.
** It says a lot about how badly yuri fans have been burned out by baiting when there is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples couples, even ones that threaten [[PortmanteauCoupleName SuleMio]] such as SuleMio]], which includes Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta (who ''actually'' considers killing Miorine so that she can have Suletta all to herself), or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, spinoff. This is partly for YuriFan reasons reasons, and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).
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* ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAge Gundam AGE]]'' has this too, due to the hostility between Flit/Emily and Flit/Yurin shippers. The first accuse Yurin of being "too goody-goody" and say her and Flit's romance is a borderline RomanticPlotTumor[=/=]StrangledByTheRedString deal, so Emily has a better chance since [[ChildhoodFriendRomance she has known Flit from much earlier]] and thus can handle him better; the latter say that Emily is a mere SatelliteLoveInterest without any depths, therefore the kind Yurin would be more "meaningful" and fit better as Flit's girlfriend. [[spoiler: [[HarsherInHindsight Made worse]] [[WhamEpisode by how episode 14]] '''[[KillTheCutie horribly kills off Yurin.]]''', thus Emily goes the VictoriousChildhoodFriend route (at the very high price of knowing Flit [[TheGwenStacy will never get over Yurin]], mind you).]]

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* ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAge Gundam AGE]]'' has this too, due to the hostility between Flit/Emily and Flit/Yurin shippers. The first accuse Yurin of being "too goody-goody" and say her and Flit's romance is a borderline RomanticPlotTumor[=/=]StrangledByTheRedString deal, so Emily has a better chance since [[ChildhoodFriendRomance she has known Flit from much earlier]] and thus can handle him better; the latter say that Emily is a mere SatelliteLoveInterest without any depths, therefore the kind Yurin would be more "meaningful" and fit better as Flit's girlfriend. [[spoiler: [[HarsherInHindsight Made worse]] [[WhamEpisode by how episode 14]] '''[[KillTheCutie horribly kills off Yurin.]]''', thus Emily goes the VictoriousChildhoodFriend route (at the very high price of knowing Flit [[TheGwenStacy [[ILetGwenStacyDie will never get over Yurin]], mind you).]]
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** As far as [[TagAlongKid Saji]]/[[BrokenBird Louise]] shippers go, they have a good reason to bash Louise's partner [[OedipusComplex Andrei Smirnov]] for trying to win Louise's heart, as he has became TheScrappy for [[spoiler:killing his father, [[ColonelBadass Colonel]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse Sergei]] [[CoolOldGuy Smirnov]]]]. And again by [[spoiler: [[MomentKiller interrupting Saji and Louise during an important conversation during Episode 19]].]] And ''again'' in episode 24 when [[spoiler: [[MurderTheHypotenuse he directly assaults Saji]] [[FreudianExcuse blaming him for Louise's deteriorating mental condition]]. Fortunately, Setsuna is there to prevent it , and then [[KarmaHoudini Andrei is swayed away from them]] by his interaction with Marie...]] However, they "conveniently forget" that in TheMovie, Andrei not only [[TookALevelInKindness has learned his lesson]] and gotten some bits of CharacterDevelopment, but [[spoiler: he ''does'' [[LaserGuidedKarma pay for his sins]], via a RedemptionEqualsDeath.]]

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** As far as [[TagAlongKid Saji]]/[[BrokenBird Louise]] shippers go, they have a good reason to bash Louise's partner [[OedipusComplex Andrei Smirnov]] Smirnov for trying to win Louise's heart, as he has became TheScrappy for [[spoiler:killing his father, [[ColonelBadass Colonel]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse Sergei]] [[CoolOldGuy Smirnov]]]]. And again by [[spoiler: [[MomentKiller interrupting Saji and Louise during an important conversation during Episode 19]].]] And ''again'' in episode 24 when [[spoiler: [[MurderTheHypotenuse he directly assaults Saji]] [[FreudianExcuse blaming him for Louise's deteriorating mental condition]]. Fortunately, Setsuna is there to prevent it , and then [[KarmaHoudini Andrei is swayed away from them]] by his interaction with Marie...]] However, they "conveniently forget" that in TheMovie, Andrei not only [[TookALevelInKindness has learned his lesson]] and gotten some bits of CharacterDevelopment, but [[spoiler: he ''does'' [[LaserGuidedKarma pay for his sins]], via a RedemptionEqualsDeath.]]
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Sue and UI are Flame Bait. Not the place for complaining about DFOS.


** This brought a [[http://i.imgur.com/j7Ur1.jpg VERY bitter meme]] in which the more rabid [[spoiler: Flit/Yurin]] fans lash at [[spoiler: Emily]] after the aforementioned facts. The UnfortunateImplications born from this are insanely creepy [[spoiler: (Yurin is a [[PossessionSue pure little saint]] who [[EntitledtoHaveYou "deserved" Flit better]] for being "the cute and super pure girl" that guys would most likely choose as a wife, Flit only married Emily at the end of the first part to shape her into a sort-of ReplacementGoldfish for Yurin, Flit [[UnwantedSpouse deep down hates his wife and the mother of her kids]] and wishes '''she''' was the one who died instead so Yurin would be his wife, etc.]]) [[http://mr-starman.tumblr.com/post/41795144234/frozenviolets-zetsubouwill-this-why-cant-i as pointed out here]].
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** Guel is probably the biggest recipient of this. Guel's character as written in the series is more or less a JerkToNiceGuyPlot, starting out as a violent JerkJock and Miorine's initial entirely-loveless partner, but then losing Miorine,being humbled, and becoming increasingly kinder, in part due to an unrequited crush on [[LoveAtFirstPunch Suletta, the first girl to ever beat him honorably]]. However, though he is generally popular, the show's yuri fandom was probably slowest to forgive him. This was not helped by the fact that, as he was the most prominent male character, people who disliked the series for, frankly, misogynistic and/or homophobic reasons latched onto Guel as the "real protagonist" as a way to instigate conflict, even loudly supporting Guel/Suletta despite whole miniarcs going by without them interacting nor Suletta even thinking about him. Even after that pairing was about as sunken as it could be (Guel confesses his feelings properly, Suletta declares herself taken and lets him down gently, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he accepts this]]) and [[ShipperOnDeck Guel had made it clear that he actually supported Suletta and Miorine getting together]], he still proved visibly more controversial among the yuri fandom due to being seen as a SpotlightStealingSquad in the show's very packed second cour beyond just shipping reasons.

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** Guel is probably the biggest recipient of this. Guel's character as written in the series is more or less a JerkToNiceGuyPlot, goes through development, starting out as a violent JerkJock and Miorine's initial entirely-loveless partner, but then losing Miorine,being humbled, and becoming increasingly kinder, in part due to an unrequited crush on [[LoveAtFirstPunch Suletta, the first girl to ever beat him honorably]]. However, though he is generally popular, the show's yuri fandom was probably slowest to forgive him. This was not helped by the fact that, as he was the most prominent male character, people who disliked the series for, frankly, misogynistic and/or homophobic reasons latched onto Guel as the "real protagonist" as a way to instigate conflict, even loudly supporting Guel/Suletta despite whole miniarcs going by without them interacting nor Suletta even thinking about him. Even after that pairing was about as sunken as it could be (Guel confesses his feelings properly, Suletta declares herself taken and lets him down gently, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he accepts this]]) and [[ShipperOnDeck Guel had made it clear that he actually supported Suletta and Miorine getting together]], he still proved visibly more controversial among the yuri fandom due to being seen as a SpotlightStealingSquad in the show's very packed second cour beyond just shipping reasons.
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** It says a lot about how badly yuri fans have been burned out by baiting when there is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples even ones that threaten SuleMio such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta (who ''actually'' considers killing Miorine so that she can have Suletta all to herself), or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).

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** It says a lot about how badly yuri fans have been burned out by baiting when there is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples even ones that threaten SuleMio [[PortmanteauCoupleName SuleMio]] such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta (who ''actually'' considers killing Miorine so that she can have Suletta all to herself), or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).
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** Setsuna turned out to be the standard Gundam [[UsefulNotes/{{Asexuality}} Asexual]] CelibateHero... [[spoiler: until TheMovie's distant finale. He visits an elderly Marina and, according to TheMovie's manga adaptation, Setsuna restores Marina's youth and ''ultimately marries her,'' much to the chagrin of the Setsuna/Feldt shippers.(Though there are doubts about [[AlternateUniverse how canon that one is...]])]]

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** Setsuna turned out to be the standard Gundam [[UsefulNotes/{{Asexuality}} Asexual]] UsefulNotes/{{Asexual}} CelibateHero... [[spoiler: until TheMovie's distant finale. He visits an elderly Marina and, according to TheMovie's manga adaptation, Setsuna restores Marina's youth and ''ultimately marries her,'' much to the chagrin of the Setsuna/Feldt shippers.(Though there are doubts about [[AlternateUniverse how canon that one is...]])]]

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story ([[spoiler:ultimately being married in the finale]]), and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. One of the more morbid cases of this was Elan Ceres, who has probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta (who actually considers killing Miorine so that she can have Suletta all to herself), or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).
** Guel is probably the biggest recipient of this. Guel's character as written in the series is more or less a JerkToNiceGuyPlot, starting out as a violent JerkJock and Miorine's initial entirely-loveless partner, but then losing Miorine,being humbled, and becoming increasingly kinder, in part due to an unrequited crush on [[LoveAtFirstPunch Suletta, the first girl to ever beat him honorably]]. However, though he is generally popular, the show's yuri fandom was probably slowest to forgive him. This was not helped by the fact that, as he was the most prominent male character, people who disliked the series for, frankly, misogynistic reasons latched onto Guel as a "real protagonist" as a way to instigate conflict, even loudly supporting Guel/Suletta despite whole miniarcs going by without them interacting. Even after that pairing was about as sunken as it could be (Guel confesses his feelings properly, Suletta declares herself taken and lets him down gently, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he accepts this]]) and [[ShipperOnDeck Guel had made it clear that he actually supported Suletta and Miorine getting together]], he still proved visibly more controversial among the yuri fandom due to being seen as a SpotlightStealingSquad in the show's very packed second cour.

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story ([[spoiler:ultimately being married in the finale]]), and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. one.
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One of the more morbid cases of this was [[RomanticFalseLead Elan Ceres, Ceres]] who has early on seemed to express an interest in Suletta (with the latter seemingly having a crush on him in return) that can be framed in and out-universe as having romantic undertones, all while the other characters (including Miorine) interpret their interactions as romantic in nature and try pushing them together. He is probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's as [[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a out.]] A surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta (who actually considers killing Miorine so that she can have Suletta all to herself), or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).
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** Guel is probably the biggest recipient of this. Guel's character as written in the series is more or less a JerkToNiceGuyPlot, starting out as a violent JerkJock and Miorine's initial entirely-loveless partner, but then losing Miorine,being humbled, and becoming increasingly kinder, in part due to an unrequited crush on [[LoveAtFirstPunch Suletta, the first girl to ever beat him honorably]]. However, though he is generally popular, the show's yuri fandom was probably slowest to forgive him. This was not helped by the fact that, as he was the most prominent male character, people who disliked the series for, frankly, misogynistic and/or homophobic reasons latched onto Guel as a the "real protagonist" as a way to instigate conflict, even loudly supporting Guel/Suletta despite whole miniarcs going by without them interacting. interacting nor Suletta even thinking about him. Even after that pairing was about as sunken as it could be (Guel confesses his feelings properly, Suletta declares herself taken and lets him down gently, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he accepts this]]) and [[ShipperOnDeck Guel had made it clear that he actually supported Suletta and Miorine getting together]], he still proved visibly more controversial among the yuri fandom due to being seen as a SpotlightStealingSquad in the show's very packed second cour.cour beyond just shipping reasons.
** It says a lot about how badly yuri fans have been burned out by baiting when there is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples even ones that threaten SuleMio such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta (who ''actually'' considers killing Miorine so that she can have Suletta all to herself), or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).
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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story ([[spoiler:ultimately being married in the finale]]), and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. One of the more morbid cases of this was Elan Ceres, who has probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story ([[spoiler:ultimately being married in the finale]]), and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. One of the more morbid cases of this was Elan Ceres, who has probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta (who actually considers killing Miorine so that she can have Suletta all to herself), or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).
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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story, and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. One of the more morbid cases of this was Elan Ceres, who has probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story, story ([[spoiler:ultimately being married in the finale]]), and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. One of the more morbid cases of this was Elan Ceres, who has probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).
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** Guel is probably the biggest recipient of this. Guel's character as written in the series is more or less a JerkToNiceGuyPlot, starting out as a violent JerkJock and Miorine's initial entirely-loveless partner, but then losing Miorine,being humbled, and becoming increasingly kinder, in part due to an unrequited crush on [[LoveAtFirstPunch Suletta, the first girl to ever beat him honorably]]. However, though he is generally popular, the show's yuri fandom was probably slowest to forgive him--not helped by the fact that, as he was the most prominent male character, people who disliked the series for, frankly, misogynistic reasons latched onto Guel as a "real protagonist" as a way to instigate conflict, even loudly supporting Guel/Suletta despite whole miniarcs going by without them interacting. Even after that pairing was about as sunken as it could be (Guel confesses his feelings properly, Suletta declares herself taken and lets him down gently, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he accepts this]]) and [[ShipperOnDeck Guel had made it clear that he actually supported Suletta and Miorine getting together]], he still proved visibly more controversial among the yuri fandom due to being seen as a SpotlightStealingSquad in the show's very packed second cour.

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** Guel is probably the biggest recipient of this. Guel's character as written in the series is more or less a JerkToNiceGuyPlot, starting out as a violent JerkJock and Miorine's initial entirely-loveless partner, but then losing Miorine,being humbled, and becoming increasingly kinder, in part due to an unrequited crush on [[LoveAtFirstPunch Suletta, the first girl to ever beat him honorably]]. However, though he is generally popular, the show's yuri fandom was probably slowest to forgive him--not him. This was not helped by the fact that, as he was the most prominent male character, people who disliked the series for, frankly, misogynistic reasons latched onto Guel as a "real protagonist" as a way to instigate conflict, even loudly supporting Guel/Suletta despite whole miniarcs going by without them interacting. Even after that pairing was about as sunken as it could be (Guel confesses his feelings properly, Suletta declares herself taken and lets him down gently, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he accepts this]]) and [[ShipperOnDeck Guel had made it clear that he actually supported Suletta and Miorine getting together]], he still proved visibly more controversial among the yuri fandom due to being seen as a SpotlightStealingSquad in the show's very packed second cour.
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** Guel is probably the biggest recipient of this. Guel's character as written in the series is more or less a JerkToNiceGuyPlot, starting out as a violent JerkJock and Miorine's initial partner, but then being humbled and becoming increasingly kinder. However, though he is generally popular, the show's yuri fandom was probably slowest to forgive him--not helped by the fact that, as he was the most prominent male character, people who disliked the series for, frankly, misogynistic reasons latched onto Guel as a "real protagonist" as a way to instigate conflict, even loudly supporting Guel/Suletta. Even after that pairing was about as sunken as it could be (Guel confesses his feelings properly, Suletta lets him down gently, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he accepts this]]) and [[ShipperOnDeck Guel had made it clear that he actually supported Suletta and Miorine getting together]], he still proved visibly more controversial among the yuri fandom due to being seen as a SpotlightStealingSquad in the show's very packed second cour.

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** Guel is probably the biggest recipient of this. Guel's character as written in the series is more or less a JerkToNiceGuyPlot, starting out as a violent JerkJock and Miorine's initial entirely-loveless partner, but then being humbled losing Miorine,being humbled, and becoming increasingly kinder. kinder, in part due to an unrequited crush on [[LoveAtFirstPunch Suletta, the first girl to ever beat him honorably]]. However, though he is generally popular, the show's yuri fandom was probably slowest to forgive him--not helped by the fact that, as he was the most prominent male character, people who disliked the series for, frankly, misogynistic reasons latched onto Guel as a "real protagonist" as a way to instigate conflict, even loudly supporting Guel/Suletta. Guel/Suletta despite whole miniarcs going by without them interacting. Even after that pairing was about as sunken as it could be (Guel confesses his feelings properly, Suletta declares herself taken and lets him down gently, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he accepts this]]) and [[ShipperOnDeck Guel had made it clear that he actually supported Suletta and Miorine getting together]], he still proved visibly more controversial among the yuri fandom due to being seen as a SpotlightStealingSquad in the show's very packed second cour.
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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story, and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. One of the more morbid cases of this was Elan Ceres, who has probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story, and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. One of the more morbid cases of this was Elan Ceres, who has probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much an established gay one for an underwritten gay one).one).
** Guel is probably the biggest recipient of this. Guel's character as written in the series is more or less a JerkToNiceGuyPlot, starting out as a violent JerkJock and Miorine's initial partner, but then being humbled and becoming increasingly kinder. However, though he is generally popular, the show's yuri fandom was probably slowest to forgive him--not helped by the fact that, as he was the most prominent male character, people who disliked the series for, frankly, misogynistic reasons latched onto Guel as a "real protagonist" as a way to instigate conflict, even loudly supporting Guel/Suletta. Even after that pairing was about as sunken as it could be (Guel confesses his feelings properly, Suletta lets him down gently, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he accepts this]]) and [[ShipperOnDeck Guel had made it clear that he actually supported Suletta and Miorine getting together]], he still proved visibly more controversial among the yuri fandom due to being seen as a SpotlightStealingSquad in the show's very packed second cour.
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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story, and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. One of the more morbid cases of this was Elan Ceres, who has probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a gay pairing for a straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much a gay one for a different gay one).

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story, and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. One of the more morbid cases of this was Elan Ceres, who has probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way (bait-and-switching a well-established gay pairing for a an underwritten straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much a an established gay one for a different an underwritten gay one).
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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story, and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. One of the more morbid cases of this was Elan Ceres, who has probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way.

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story, and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. One of the more morbid cases of this was Elan Ceres, who has probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way.way (bait-and-switching a gay pairing for a straight one happens pretty regularly, not so much a gay one for a different gay one).
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** In the second generation, [[TheCutie Romary]] got ''massive'' loathing from the [[TheHero Asem]] / [[TheRival Zeheart]] [[HoYay shippers.]] And more than one potshot from Asem/[[PluckyGirl Arisa]] fans, too. And bonus accusations of being TheObstructiveLoveInterest or a SatelliteLoveInterest for being a GirlNextDoor.

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** In the second generation, [[TheCutie Romary]] got ''massive'' loathing from the [[TheHero Asem]] / [[TheRival Zeheart]] [[HoYay shippers.]] And more than one potshot from Asem/[[PluckyGirl Arisa]] fans, too. And bonus accusations of being TheObstructiveLoveInterest or a SatelliteLoveInterest for being a GirlNextDoor.GirlNextDoor.
* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story, and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one. One of the more morbid cases of this was Elan Ceres, who has probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season ([[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out]])--a surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date. There is noticeably far less antipathy towards the handful of same-sex teased couples, such as Sophie's odd apparent crush on Suletta or Miorine having an ex-girlfriend in a light novel spinoff, partly for YuriFan reasons and partly because they don't scan as "threats" in the same way.
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** The ire of [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Athrun]]/[[{{Tsundere}} Cagalli]] fans, after [[ShipSinking canon went against them]] in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Gundam SEED Destiny]]'', brought ''lots'' of bashing of [[NaiveEverygirl Meyrin Hawke]], [[{{Shorttank}} Lunamaria "Luna" Hawke]] and [[{{Stripperiffic}} Meer Campbell]]... to the point that some people have either: a) sworn off both series as a whole SOLELY for the ShipSinking; b) sworn off the Athrun/Cagalli pairing, or c) ''bashed Athrun/Cagalli back'' for the evil it inflicted on their girls or ships - especially poor Cagalli.

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** The ire of [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Athrun]]/[[{{Tsundere}} Cagalli]] Athrun Zala]]/[[{{Tsundere}} Cagalli Yula Athha]] fans, after [[ShipSinking canon went against them]] in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Gundam SEED Destiny]]'', brought ''lots'' of bashing of [[NaiveEverygirl Meyrin Hawke]], [[{{Shorttank}} Lunamaria "Luna" Hawke]] and [[{{Stripperiffic}} Meer Campbell]]... to the point that some people have either: a) sworn off both series as a whole SOLELY for the ShipSinking; b) sworn off the Athrun/Cagalli pairing, or c) ''bashed Athrun/Cagalli back'' for the evil it inflicted on their girls or ships - especially poor Cagalli.



** And it's not only about the infamous Athrun shipwar. If you like Kira/Lacus, apparently you can't like [[PrincessInRags Fllay]] and must call her "whore" and "rapist". If you prefer Kira/Fllay, you're often expected to call [[AllLovingHero Lacus]] an unrealistic PuritySue. Not ''all'' the fans are like that, but it's still often the first thing that other fans see when the ShipToShipCombat is mentioned.

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** And it's not only about the infamous Athrun shipwar. If you like Kira/Lacus, [[AllLovingHero Kira Yamato]]/[[IdolSinger Lacus Clyne]], apparently you can't like [[PrincessInRags Fllay]] Flay Allster]] and must call her "whore" and "rapist". If you prefer Kira/Fllay, Kira/Flay, you're often expected to call [[AllLovingHero Lacus]] an unrealistic PuritySue. Not ''all'' the fans are like that, but it's still often the first thing that other fans see when the ShipToShipCombat is mentioned.
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** As for 00's main star [[ChildSoldiers Setsuna]], there are those who ship him with [[RebelliousPrincess Marina]] or with [[CuteAndPsycho Nena]]. The odds are most likely in Marina's favor now since [[spoiler: Nena was killed by Louise]]. However, the two aforementioned ladies are... [[TheScrappy not well-liked]]. As a result, some fans [[LauncherOfAThousandShips paired Setsuna with other characters]] such as [[CargoShip his Gundams]], [[HoYay his fellow Meisters, Saji]], [[FoeYay Graham]], [[CrackPairing Louise, Liu-Mei]] or [[FanPreferredCouple Feldt]]. [[spoiler:The last one mentioned [[ShipTease already made her move]], and unlike the two ladies, [[EnsembleDarkhorse she's liked]].]] Recently, however, [[spoiler:questions on who will be Setsuna's LoveInterest in TheMovie have caused some ShipToShipCombat, even though it's most likely he'll end up with no one.]]

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** As for 00's main star [[ChildSoldiers Setsuna]], there are those who ship him with [[RebelliousPrincess Marina]] or with [[CuteAndPsycho Nena]]. The odds are most likely in Marina's favor now since [[spoiler: Nena was killed by Louise]]. However, the two aforementioned ladies are... [[TheScrappy not well-liked]]. As a result, some fans [[LauncherOfAThousandShips paired Setsuna with other characters]] such as [[CargoShip his Gundams]], [[HoYay his fellow Meisters, Saji]], [[FoeYay [[FoeYayShipping Graham]], [[CrackPairing Louise, Liu-Mei]] or [[FanPreferredCouple Feldt]]. [[spoiler:The last one mentioned [[ShipTease already made her move]], and unlike the two ladies, [[EnsembleDarkhorse she's liked]].]] Recently, however, [[spoiler:questions on who will be Setsuna's LoveInterest in TheMovie have caused some ShipToShipCombat, even though it's most likely he'll end up with no one.]]
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* [[RebelliousPrincess Relena Darlian/Peacecraft]], from the [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls fangirl-popular]] Franchise/{{Gundam}} series ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]],'' is perhaps the most famous victim of DieForOurShip ''ever'' in {{anime}}, and may be one of '''the''' most hated fictional women, along with [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Akane Tendo]], [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Orihime Inoue]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Ginny Weasley]] and [[Manga/FushigiYuugi Miaka Yuuki]]. She is often [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] as a RichBitch, a {{Yandere}}, or (sometimes) even a CardCarryingVillain by [[YaoiFangirl fans who prefer the]] [[YaoiGuys Heero/Duo pairing]], even though Heero/Duo is ''virtually non-existent'' throughout the series (with the HoYay technically going more towards other pairings than them), even though ''Duo himself'' is shown several times to [[ShipperOnDeck ship Heero/Relena]], and even though the lyrics to Relena's ImageSong "Always a Secret" depict her as [[NiceGirl a sweet and kind girl]] who would be [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy pretty willing to let go of Heero]] and go the MarriedToTheJob way if he fell in love with someone else. [[spoiler:And then the sequel novel ''Frozen Teardrop'', for all of its controversial writing, ended with Heero and Relena getting married.]]

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* [[RebelliousPrincess Relena Darlian/Peacecraft]], from the [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls fangirl-popular]] Franchise/{{Gundam}} series ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]],'' is perhaps the most famous victim of DieForOurShip ''ever'' in {{anime}}, and may be one of '''the''' most hated fictional women, along with [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Akane Tendo]], [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Orihime Inoue]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Ginny Weasley]] and [[Manga/FushigiYuugi Miaka Yuuki]]. She is often [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] as a RichBitch, a {{Yandere}}, or (sometimes) even a CardCarryingVillain by [[YaoiFangirl fans who prefer the]] [[YaoiGuys Heero/Duo pairing]], pairing, even though Heero/Duo is ''virtually non-existent'' throughout the series (with the HoYay technically going more towards other pairings than them), even though ''Duo himself'' is shown several times to [[ShipperOnDeck ship Heero/Relena]], and even though the lyrics to Relena's ImageSong "Always a Secret" depict her as [[NiceGirl a sweet and kind girl]] who would be [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy pretty willing to let go of Heero]] and go the MarriedToTheJob way if he fell in love with someone else. [[spoiler:And then the sequel novel ''Frozen Teardrop'', for all of its controversial writing, ended with Heero and Relena getting married.]]
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** Setsuna turned out to be the standard Gundam [[{{Asexuality}} Asexual]] CelibateHero... [[spoiler: until TheMovie's distant finale. He visits an elderly Marina and, according to TheMovie's manga adaptation, Setsuna restores Marina's youth and ''ultimately marries her,'' much to the chagrin of the Setsuna/Feldt shippers.(Though there are doubts about [[AlternateUniverse how canon that one is...]])]]

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** Setsuna turned out to be the standard Gundam [[{{Asexuality}} [[UsefulNotes/{{Asexuality}} Asexual]] CelibateHero... [[spoiler: until TheMovie's distant finale. He visits an elderly Marina and, according to TheMovie's manga adaptation, Setsuna restores Marina's youth and ''ultimately marries her,'' much to the chagrin of the Setsuna/Feldt shippers.(Though there are doubts about [[AlternateUniverse how canon that one is...]])]]

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* [[RebelliousPrincess Relena Darlian/Peacecraft]], from the [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls fangirl-popular]] Franchise/{{Gundam}} series ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]],'' is perhaps the most famous victim of DieForOurShip ''ever'' in {{anime}}, and may be one of '''the''' most hated fictional women, along with [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Akane Tendo]], [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Orihime Inoue]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Ginny Weasley]] and [[Manga/FushigiYuugi Miaka Yuuki]]. She is often [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] as a RichBitch, a {{Yandere}}, or (sometimes) even a CardCarryingVillain by [[YaoiFangirl fans who prefer the]] [[YaoiGuys Heero/Duo pairing]], even though Heero/Duo is ''virtually non-existent'' throughout the series (with the HoYay technically going more towards Trowa and Quatre than them), even though ''Duo himself'' is shown several times to [[ShipperOnDeck ship Heero/Relena]], and even though the lyrics to Relena's ImageSong "Always a Secret" depict her as [[NiceGirl a sweet and kind girl]] who would be [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy pretty willing to let go of Heero]] and go the MarriedToTheJob way if he fell in love with someone else. [[spoiler:And then the sequel novel ''Frozen Teardrop'', for all of its controversial writing, ended with Heero and Relena getting married.]]
** Technically, this happens to most of the show's female cast, since there's a 1-to-1 ratio of men to women among the primary cast -- even ones who don't express any overt signs of romantic love for their counterparts and seem to go more for friendship or partnership with the guys. Relena gets it the worst (by far) because of a bad first impression. Other common victims are Duo's partner and potential girlfriend [[GenkiGirl Hilde]]; [[TheDragon Treize's right-hand]] Lady Une; and Quatre's rival/counterpart [[RichBitch Dorothy]], who also receives hate for opposing and hurting TheWoobie during a fight late in the show. Trowa's CoolBigSis Catherine Bloom gets surprisingly little of this, perhaps because she and Trowa act more like siblings than potential lovers. [[spoiler: It ''has'' been established in recent years that they are, in fact, blood siblings, and see each other as such]].
* In ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed Gundam SEED]]'' and its sequel: The ire of [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Athrun]]/[[{{Tsundere}} Cagalli]] fans, after [[ShipSinking canon went against them]] in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Gundam SEED Destiny]]'', brought ''lots'' of bashing of [[NaiveEverygirl Meyrin Hawke]], [[{{Shorttank}} Lunamaria "Luna" Hawke]] and [[{{Stripperiffic}} Meer Campbell]]... to the point that some people have either: a) sworn off ''SEED'' as a whole SOLELY for the ShipSinking; b) sworn off the Athrun/Cagalli pairing, or c) ''bashed [=AsuCaga=] back'' for the evil it inflicted on their girls or ships - especially poor Cagalli.
** It doesn't help that the amount the AsuCaga ship even sinks depends on which edition you're watching. The fact that WordOfGod flip-flops all over the place just makes the situation worse.
** And it's not only about the infamous [=AsuCaga=] shipwar. If you like Kira/Lacus, apparently you can't like [[FallenPrincess Fllay]] and must call her "whore" and "rapist". If you prefer Kira/Fllay, you're often expected to call [[AllLovingHero Lacus]] a plain and unrealistic PuritySue. Not ''all'' the fans are like that, but it's still often the first thing that other fans see when the ShipToShipCombat is mentioned.

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* [[RebelliousPrincess Relena Darlian/Peacecraft]], from the [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls fangirl-popular]] Franchise/{{Gundam}} series ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]],'' is perhaps the most famous victim of DieForOurShip ''ever'' in {{anime}}, and may be one of '''the''' most hated fictional women, along with [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Akane Tendo]], [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Orihime Inoue]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Ginny Weasley]] and [[Manga/FushigiYuugi Miaka Yuuki]]. She is often [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] as a RichBitch, a {{Yandere}}, or (sometimes) even a CardCarryingVillain by [[YaoiFangirl fans who prefer the]] [[YaoiGuys Heero/Duo pairing]], even though Heero/Duo is ''virtually non-existent'' throughout the series (with the HoYay technically going more towards Trowa and Quatre other pairings than them), even though ''Duo himself'' is shown several times to [[ShipperOnDeck ship Heero/Relena]], and even though the lyrics to Relena's ImageSong "Always a Secret" depict her as [[NiceGirl a sweet and kind girl]] who would be [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy pretty willing to let go of Heero]] and go the MarriedToTheJob way if he fell in love with someone else. [[spoiler:And then the sequel novel ''Frozen Teardrop'', for all of its controversial writing, ended with Heero and Relena getting married.]]
** Technically, this happens to most of the show's female cast, since there's a 1-to-1 ratio of men to women among the primary cast -- even ones who don't express any overt signs of romantic love for their counterparts and seem to go more for friendship or partnership with the guys. Relena gets it the worst (by far) because of a bad first impression. Other common victims are Duo's partner and potential girlfriend [[GenkiGirl Hilde]]; Hilde Schbeiker]]; [[TheDragon Treize's right-hand]] Lady Une; and Une, Quatre's rival/counterpart the violently-inclined [[RichBitch Dorothy]], Dorothy Catalonia]], and [[DevotedToYou Lucrezia Noin]], who also receives hate for opposing and hurting TheWoobie during a fight late is in the show.closest thing this series has to a explicit romantic relationship with Zechs Merquise. Trowa's CoolBigSis Catherine Bloom gets surprisingly little of this, perhaps because she and Trowa act more like siblings than potential lovers. [[spoiler: It ''has'' been established in recent years that they According to ''Frozen Teardrop'' [[spoiler:they are, in fact, blood siblings, and see each other as such]].
siblings]].
* In ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed Gundam SEED]]'' and its sequel: sequel, ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny SEED Destiny]]'':
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The ire of [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Athrun]]/[[{{Tsundere}} Cagalli]] fans, after [[ShipSinking canon went against them]] in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Gundam SEED Destiny]]'', brought ''lots'' of bashing of [[NaiveEverygirl Meyrin Hawke]], [[{{Shorttank}} Lunamaria "Luna" Hawke]] and [[{{Stripperiffic}} Meer Campbell]]... to the point that some people have either: a) sworn off ''SEED'' both series as a whole SOLELY for the ShipSinking; b) sworn off the Athrun/Cagalli pairing, or c) ''bashed [=AsuCaga=] Athrun/Cagalli back'' for the evil it inflicted on their girls or ships - especially poor Cagalli.
** It doesn't help that the amount the AsuCaga ship Athrun/Cagalli even sinks depends on which edition you're watching. The fact that WordOfGod flip-flops all over the place just makes the situation worse.
** And it's not only about the infamous [=AsuCaga=] Athrun shipwar. If you like Kira/Lacus, apparently you can't like [[FallenPrincess [[PrincessInRags Fllay]] and must call her "whore" and "rapist". If you prefer Kira/Fllay, you're often expected to call [[AllLovingHero Lacus]] a plain and an unrealistic PuritySue. PuritySue. Not ''all'' the fans are like that, but it's still often the first thing that other fans see when the ShipToShipCombat is mentioned.



* And believe it or not, ''not even the Universal Century Gundam series are free''. The hate that ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'' fans levelled to [[{{Tsundere}} Fa Yuiri]] came less from her status as a NaiveEverygirl unable to become a 100% ActionGirl, but rather from for supposedly "getting in between" [[StarCrossedLovers Kamille and Four's True Love.]] [[spoiler: Even more so after Four actually ''dies'' in really tragic circumstances, Kamille lives on but is {{mind rape}}d into catatonia, and Fa lives on too and stays with him as he slooooowly gets better.]]

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* And believe it or not, ''not even the Universal Century Gundam series are free''. The hate that ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'' fans levelled to [[{{Tsundere}} [[GirlNextDoor Fa Yuiri]] Yuiry]] came less from her status as a NaiveEverygirl unable to 100% become a 100% an ActionGirl, but rather from for supposedly "getting in between" [[StarCrossedLovers Kamille and Four's True Love.]] [[spoiler: Even more so after Four actually ''dies'' in really tragic circumstances, Kamille lives on but is {{mind rape}}d into catatonia, and Fa lives on too survives and stays with him as he slooooowly gets better.]]better, to the point that they appear to be an OfficialCouple by the end of [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ the sequel]]]].

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* [[RebelliousPrincess Relena Darlian/Peacecraft]], from the [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls fangirl-popular]] Franchise/{{Gundam}} series ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]],'' is perhaps the most famous victim of DieForOurShip ''ever'' in {{anime}}, and may be one of '''the''' most hated fictional women, along with [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Akane Tendo]], [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Orihime Inoue]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Ginny Weasley]] and [[Manga/FushigiYuugi Miaka Yuuki]]. She is often [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] as a RichBitch, a {{Yandere}}, or (sometimes) even a CardCarryingVillain by [[YaoiFangirl fans who prefer the]] [[YaoiGuys Heero/Duo pairing]], even though Heero/Duo is ''virtually non-existent'' throughout the series (with the HoYay technically going more towards Trowa and Quatre than them), even though ''Duo himself'' is shown several times to [[ShipperOnDeck ship Heero/Relena]], and even though the lyrics to Relena's ImageSong "Always a Secret" depict her as [[NiceGirl a sweet and kind girl]] who would be [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy pretty willing to let go of Heero]] and go the MarriedToTheJob way if he fell in love with someone else.

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* [[RebelliousPrincess Relena Darlian/Peacecraft]], from the [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls fangirl-popular]] Franchise/{{Gundam}} series ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]],'' is perhaps the most famous victim of DieForOurShip ''ever'' in {{anime}}, and may be one of '''the''' most hated fictional women, along with [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Akane Tendo]], [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Orihime Inoue]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Ginny Weasley]] and [[Manga/FushigiYuugi Miaka Yuuki]]. She is often [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] as a RichBitch, a {{Yandere}}, or (sometimes) even a CardCarryingVillain by [[YaoiFangirl fans who prefer the]] [[YaoiGuys Heero/Duo pairing]], even though Heero/Duo is ''virtually non-existent'' throughout the series (with the HoYay technically going more towards Trowa and Quatre than them), even though ''Duo himself'' is shown several times to [[ShipperOnDeck ship Heero/Relena]], and even though the lyrics to Relena's ImageSong "Always a Secret" depict her as [[NiceGirl a sweet and kind girl]] who would be [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy pretty willing to let go of Heero]] and go the MarriedToTheJob way if he fell in love with someone else. [[spoiler:And then the sequel novel ''Frozen Teardrop'', for all of its controversial writing, ended with Heero and Relena getting married.]]



** ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]]'''s director Masashi Ikeda once admitted that he [[RelationshipWritingFumble can't write romances]], and that he was more concerned with politics. This is sometimes taken as evidence Relena and Heero aren't a "real" couple. But surely, if the director can't write romances, [[FridgeLogic then he can't write the]] FanPreferredCouple [[FridgeLogic either]]?
*** Ikeda was only one of five script writers for ''Wing''; three of the others penned side-stories which blatantly ship Heero[=/=]Relena, including ''Blind Target'' (where it's implied they actually kiss), ''Battlefield of Pacifists'' (where both Duo and Dorothy attempt to set the two of them up together) and ''Frozen Teardrop'' (where Heero and Relena are [[HumanPopsicle cryogenically frozen]] for 30 years, rendering any potential relationships with the rest of the cast {{Squick}}y).
*** But the last one has a big detail... [[spoiler: Relena is now a BrainwashedAndCrazy sort-of BarrierMaiden, and it looks like Heero ''will'' have to kill her in the end. As the corollary of several StarCrossedLovers deals involving people who, for [[IdenticalStranger one]] or [[IdenticalGrandson another]] reason, look a LOT like Heero and Relena themselves (the original Heero and Katrina Peacecraft, Ein Yuy and Angelina Khushrenada, etc.) So even with the aforementioned deal, poor Heero and Relena might '''not''' end up together either. (Or it'll take them LOTS of blood, sweat, and tears.)]] So yeah...
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* Pictured above: [[RebelliousPrincess Relena Darlian/Peacecraft]], from the [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls fangirl-popular]] Franchise/{{Gundam}} series ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]],'' is perhaps the most famous victim of DieForOurShip ''ever'' in {{anime}}, and may be one of '''the''' most hated fictional women, along with [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Akane Tendo]], [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Orihime Inoue]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Ginny Weasley]] and [[Manga/FushigiYuugi Miaka Yuuki]]. She is often [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] as a RichBitch, a {{Yandere}}, or (sometimes) even a CardCarryingVillain by [[YaoiFangirl fans who prefer the]] [[YaoiGuys Heero/Duo pairing]], even though Heero/Duo is ''virtually non-existent'' throughout the series (with the HoYay technically going more towards Trowa and Quatre than them), even though ''Duo himself'' is shown several times to [[ShipperOnDeck ship Heero/Relena]], and even though the lyrics to Relena's ImageSong "Always a Secret" depict her as [[NiceGirl a sweet and kind girl]] who would be [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy pretty willing to let go of Heero]] and go the MarriedToTheJob way if he fell in love with someone else.

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** Sadly, it went in Feldt's "defense". More than a few Feldt/[[spoiler: Lyle Dylandy (Neil's BackupTwin)]] fans bash Anew Returner HARD and call her a CanonSue for threatening their OTP. Which is ironic and utterly ''stupid'', since before Anew ''ever'' was in the picture, [[spoiler: Lyle actually preferred to put on a JerkassFacade in front of Feldt and [[ItsNotYouItsMe push her away]], rather than encourage her to pursue his affections.]] The fact that Anew in canon [[spoiler:hooked up with Lyle, turned on the crew (even if as a ManchurianAgent under MindControl), ''and'' wasn't convinced that her time/feelings for Lyle were true until it was way too late]] doesn't help fangirls' negative perception of her at all, even if that's not all there is to her character ''and'' that whole deal wasn't exactly '''her''' fault, but [[spoiler: her "twin brother" Revive and Ribbons's own [[DracoInLeatherPants And of course]], [[DoubleStandard these two men get scot free in fandom view]].]]

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