History DethroningMoment / Webcomics

* {{@/Fofa}}: I normally love ''Webcomic/AwkwardZombie'', but [[http://awkwardzombie.com/index.php?page=0&comic=091911 this is one strip]] I just can't defend. I never played any of the Professor Layton games and even I know that Layton would never slap Luke in a million years, but besides this, it plays child abuse for laughs. It hasn't stopped me from reading the strip altogether, but it almost did.

* DCorp123: The recent years of ''Webcomic/Housepets'' have been pretty weak, but the "My Life As A Teenage Squirrel" arc was where it really lost me. After not one, but two overlong arcs, we get this arc that lasted the entire second half of 2019, all focused around an entirely new character who seemed to come out of pretty much nowhere. We barely got to see any of the already established cast who we know and love, instead following the same whiny human-turned-squirrel for six months. I wouldn't have even complained as much if it wasn't for the sheer length of this arc. It moves insanely slow, and made me lose pretty much all interest in the comic at this point.

** Fersh Ferd: The chapters "New Look"/"Billy"; Mandy letting Grim go? It's possible. Billy not noticing Grim is gone? Yes, Billy is practically retarded, but it has been stated several times in the show how he sees Grim as his best friend,and the very idea basically defies Billy's character.

** @/DontKillBugs: I have been known for being an extraordinarily patient man. I read all of ''Better Days'' and a good chunk of ''Original Life'' before I even knew a Naylor-hatedom existed. I still hold the theory that Fisk joined a completely legal black-ops group, and every single person on earth misinterpreted it. I still do not believe that Naylor and his webcomics are nearly as bad as the people on [[ImageBoard Godammit Freehaven]] insist, and continue to state that said people are the worst trolls I have ever had the misfortune to meet. But when Naylor started a story arc about the [[https://jaynaylor.com/originallife/archives/2011/07/218.html sexual awakening]] of Tommy and Lucy's son Leo at the ripe old age of twelve, I threw up my hands and jumped ship. My respect for Naylor, which had been whithering slowly over the duration of the [[StrawCharacter uber-strawman]] Justice Defender arc, including its utter lack of an ending, finally croaked it and died. Congrats, Freehaven trolls, you finally won.

* Tropers/HawkOfCoul: The premise of ''Webcomic/TheWotch'' spinoff, ''WebComic/{{Cheer}}''. Especially the point where [[spoiler: one of the GenderBender cheerleaders remembers everything and decides not to let the other 'girls' know the truth about themselves because [[AssPull they aren't jerks anymore]]. Apart from the gigantic offensive implications this has (that apparently the only way to stop a man from being a jerk is [[InsaneTrollLogic turning him into a woman]]) you can do whatever you want with yourself, you sexist freak, but doing it for the others as well?]] It's not your decision to make!

* Krystalis: {{Webcomic/MSF High}} was never my all time favorite comic, but back before I knew I was queer I used to read it and EGS. At some point the author posted a [[https://www.deviantart.com/msfhwraith/journal/Rise-of-the-Pseudophiles-656104642 blog on their DeviantArt positing themself as Truscum,]] their words, not mine, started grouping people in the larger GSRM groups with pedophiles, even when the larger GSRM discourages associations and has enough trouble with that already, and started fighting with people in the comments about how they were wrong if they disagreed. Honestly I don't care what you think, but please think about it before you post it. That amount of hatred has driven me away from it permanently. At least I still have EGS.

* Tropers/Krystalis: {{Webcomic/MSF High}} was never my all time favorite comic, but back before I knew I was queer I used to read it and EGS. At some point the author posted a [[https://www.deviantart.com/msfhwraith/journal/Rise-of-the-Pseudophiles-656104642 blog on their DeviantArt positing themself as Truscum,]] their words, not mine, started grouping people in the larger GSRM groups with pedophiles, even when the larger GSRM discourages associations and has enough trouble with that already, and started fighting with people in the comments about how they were wrong if they disagreed. Honestly I don't care what you think, but please think about it before you post it. That amount of hatred has driven me away from it permanently. At least I still have EGS.

* Tropers/Krystalis: {{Webcomic/MSF High}} was never my all time favorite comic, but back before I knew I was queer I used to read it an EGS. At some point the author posted a [[https://www.deviantart.com/msfhwraith/journal/Rise-of-the-Pseudophiles-656104642 blog on their DeviantArt positing themself as Truscum,]] their words, not mine, started grouping people in the larger GSRM groups with pedophiles, even when the larger GSRM discourages associations and has enough trouble with that already, and started fighting with people in the comments about how they were wrong if they disagreed. Honestly I don't care what you think, but please think about it before you post it. That amount of hatred has driven me away from it permanently. At least I still have EGS.

* Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi: Over the past year, I've been catching up on ''Webcomic/BittersweetCandyBowl''. I was curious about how things went down from "[[DramaBomb December]]" onwards, and I have some mixed feelings at this point. The worst moment in the entire webcomic thus far IMO is Paulo's behavior and [[spoiler:Daisy and Abbey's break-up]] in the chapter "Love Again". For the tl;dr version, Paulo had feelings for Lucy, [[spoiler:who returned to Roseville after attempting suicide due to how Mike had treated her]]. After Lucy doesn't pay any attention to Paulo, he acts like a total prick towards his friends. While Paulo [[spoiler:tugging on Mike's scarf]] is somewhat understandable, how he acted towards Daisy and Abbey felt so [[ConflictBall forced and out-of-nowhere]]. It gets so bad that [[spoiler: Paulo brings up the time Abbey assaulted him, which causes Abbey and Daisy break up because she called him out for that incident]]. How Daisy could even manage to make things up with Paulo afterwards baffles me because if I were her, I would never speak to him again for weeks at minimum. However, at least Taeshi tried fixing that crazy Somali boy in the next few chapters.

* Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi: Over the past year, I've been catching up on ''Webcomic/BittersweetCandyBowl''. I was curious about how things went down from "[[DramaBomb December]]" onwards, and I have some mixed feelings at this point. The worst moment in the entire webcomic thus far IMO is Paulo's behavior and [[spoiler:Daisy and Abbey's break-up]] in the chapter "Love Again". For the tl;dr version, Paulo had feelings for Lucy, [[spoiler:who returned to Roseville after attempting suicide due to how Mike treated her]]. After Lucy doesn't pay any attention to Paulo, he acts like a total prick towards his friends. While Paulo [[spoiler:tugging on Mike's scarf]] is somewhat understandable, how he acted towards Daisy and Abbey felt so forced and out-of-nowhere. It gets so bad that [[spoiler: Paulo brings up the time Abbey assaulted him, which causes Abbey and Daisy break up because she called him out for that incident]]. How Daisy could even manage to make things up with Paulo afterwards baffles me because if I were her, I would never speak to him again for weeks at minimum. However, at least Taeshi tried fixing that crazy Somali boy in the next few chapters.

* Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi: Over the past year, I've been catching up on ''Webcomic/BittersweetCandyBowl''. I was curious about how things went down from "[[DramaBomb December]]" onwards, and I have some mixed feelings at this point. The worst moment in the entire webcomic thus far IMO is Paulo's behavior and [[spoiler:Daisy and Abbey's break-up]] in the chapter "Love Again". For the tl;dr version, Paulo had feelings for Lucy, [[spoiler:who returned to Roseville after attempting suicide due to how Mike treated her]]. After Lucy doesn't pay any attention to Paulo, he acts like a total prick towards his friends. While Paulo [[spoiler:tugging on Mike's scarf]] is somewhat understandable, how he acted towards Daisy and Abbey felt so forced and out-of-nowhere. It gets so bad that [[spoiler: Paulo brings up the time Abbey assaulted him, which causes Abbey and Daisy break up because she called him out for that incident]]. How Daisy could even manage to make things up with Paulo afterwards baffles me because if I were her, I would never speak to him ever again. However, at least Taeshi tried fixing that crazy Somali boy in the next few chapters.

* Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi: Over the past year, I've been catching up on ''Webcomic/BittersweetCandyBowl''. I was curious about how things went down from "[[DramaBomb December]]" onwards, and I have some mixed feelings at this point. The worst moment in the entire webcomic thus far IMO is Paulo's behavior and [[spoiler:Daisy and Abbey's break-up]] in the chapter "Love Again". For the tl;dr version, Paulo had feelings for Lucy, [[spoiler:who returned to Roseville after attempting suicide due to how Mike treated her]]. After Lucy doesn't pay any attention to Paulo, he acts like a total prick towards his friends. While Paulo [[spoiler:tugging on Mike's scarf]] is somewhat understandable, how he acted towards Daisy and Abbey felt so forced and out-of-nowhere. It gets so bad that [[spoiler: Paulo brings up the time Abbey assaulted him, which causes Abbey and Daisy break up because she called him out for that incident]]. How Daisy could even manage to make things up with Paulo afterwards baffles me because if I were her, I would never speak to Paulo ever again. However, at least Taeshi tried fixing that crazy Somali boy in the next few chapters.

** [=Ryanruff13=]: As much as I do still appreciate some aspects of ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'', the webcomic hasn't personally appealed to me [[JumpingTheShark as much as it had early on in its run]], with [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=503 "Garfield Plus Jim Davis' Ego"]] serving as an example of one of the reasons why I believe so. The only joke of the comic is editing it so that ''Garfield'' creator Jim Davis brags about himself by taking Garfield's bragging in the original strip and giving it to him, for no reason other than to perpetuate the perception that "Jim Davis is egotistical lel". While [[TakeThat Take Thats]] can be humorous, and while I do believe that there are numerous critiques that one could make about the ''Garfield'' comics, I still feel that ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'' had shifted towards an overreliance on mockery of its source material early on. There's only so much that one can [[{{Deconstruct}} deconstruct]] something before it all just feels overly cynical, if not arrogant.

* Tropers/FrankiLew: I've always had issues with Webcomic/{{Zoophobia}} and the writing of it's creator, Viv. Since it seems like the comic is going to rebooted I feel the need to mention my [=DMoS=], which started with Zill and Kayla's chapter. Up until that point, the comic had no main character but a single character you the audience follow around and meet the rest of the cast with: Cameron. She's a human thrust into a strange world and has to learn how the magic therein works. It's through her that we get to know the academy faculty, and it's a dynamic that's written pretty well as shown by the scene where they interrogate the vampires; Cameron is present during a confrontation between characters who have a past she knows as much about as the readers do. Once Zill and Kayla's anniversary plot is introduced, Cameron is nowhere to be found and it's now about these characters we were kinda introduced to through her, but don't know that much about. Viv has this way of assuming that, if you've followed her art for long enough you must know who the characters are. Zill and Kayla are important OC's of hers, but in the context of the story I don't know much about them and it feel weird for the webcomic to abandon Cameron to focus on these two. The comic does this again when we follow Damien and later Addison. WE HAVEN'T BEEN PROPERLY INTRODUCED TO THESE CHARACTERS. The reason this irks me so is that it's so easy for Cameron to be written into these characters' subplots. We see later on that she becomes a guidance counselor which is where Jack tells his and Zill's story, so she's present for their moment of establishment/development. Have her become a guidance counselor earlier into the story, have characters tell her their problems while illustrating it, or heck, after they have their session with Cameron have it be that Cameron get's roped into the drama BECAUSE she's the guidance counselor. Instead of just focusing on Damien, make Damien's nanny's be the ones to drag Cameron around to find him. Instead of focusing on Addison out of the blue, have him be a character who walks Cameron to work so she/we get to meet the characters he talks to on the way there. In a comic such as this, we need a character to keep us ground with their perspective, no matter how passive. Zoophobia as it is now/was has lots of problems character-wise, and the narrative flow of who's perspective we're seeing this through is a big problem.

* {{@/Geoduck}}: Never thought I'd be saying this, but ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' managed to at least edge into this territory with Agatha's adventures in Paris; when she got kidnapped, again, right out from under the noses of a Smoke Knight, a Jager, a master spy and a warrior princess, by some third-rate never-before-seen Spark, meaning we're off on yet another plot diversion, the groaning and eye-rolling among the fandom was pretty widely spread.

* {{@/Animeking1108}}: I hate to sound like a fanboy, but the epilogue of ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'' makes this, because was basically an excuse for the author to go on a [[AuthorFilibuster rant]] [[TakeThat against]] [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII the]] [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII 3 D]] [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Final]] [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX Fantasy]] [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI games]]. Now, I wouldn't have a problem with this if it weren't for this way-too-harsh StealthInsult towards post-FFVII-fans:

* @/AdamC: From ''WebComic/MenageA3'', the dethroning moment for me is certainly the baffling decision to have Zii get revenge on an internet troll by having sex with his mom. To elaborate: Zii is being teased online by an internet troll and decides to get revenge. She gets his address from Gary and, in spite of Gary's attempt's to stop her, bonks the kid's Mom all night long. The next morning when he gets up, Zii gleefully teases him about it and rubs it in his face while his mother cheerfully informs him that due to Zii's super-magic-love-making, she and his father are getting a divorce. The comic tries to save this from making Zii look like a total sociopath by having it awkwardly shoved in that his father was apparently sleeping with his secretary, claiming that Zii was ultimately doing the woman a favor by nailing her for extremely petty and selfish reasons and made her life better, but this almost makes it even worse. Zii had long since been getting complaints from the fandom about being a KarmaHoudini and not receiving any punishment for her "antics" but breaking up a kid's family for being mean to her on the internet and trying to make it seem like it was a good thing just took it too far. The entire thing left a bad taste in people's mouths and Zii has yet to be punished for it. It totally ruined her character for me, and while others claim she's just a LoveableSexManiac, I can't get past this.

** [[@/SGManForever SG_Man_Forever]]: The chapter where Fisk asks if UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar was "worth it." After a [[WallOfText wall of]] [[YouFailLogicForever blithering logical fallacies]], the person Fisk is talking to concludes three things: (1) A country having a system of government another country doesn't like (Communism) is a legitimate reason to attempt to destroy that country. (2) The war was a moral victory for America, and (3) that yes, the war was "worth it." Reality check. Vietnam was probably the single most horrifically pointless war in American history, thousands of Americans lost their lives in the name of a fight that had nothing to do with them, and it was one of the single most brutally fought wars in American history. There's a reason so many men came back with PTSD. They were being put into (in many cases, drafted into) a position where they were forced to fight {{child soldiers}}, lived constant fear of ambushes or booby traps, and constant fear that someone in the platoon would lose their mind and murder someone else in it. As you can tell, people being ignorant about Vietnam is something of a BerserkButton with me, as my uncle served in it, and I have seen the effects of PTSD firsthand, and it is heartbreaking. Nevermind that the war was started on extremely shaky evidence. As a result of this evidence, almost sixty thousand men lost their lives, and hundreds of thousands were injured. Mr. Naylor, I want you to tell the families of those sixty thousand men that the deaths of their brothers, uncles, fathers, and sons was worth fighting against the "scourge" of communism. Tell me that my uncle's sanity was "worth it." Tell me that him living in madness for 37 years was "worth it." Tell me the thousands of shattered families that it was "worth it."

* Tropers/FrankiLew: I've always had issues with Webcomic/{{Zoophobia}} and the writing of it's creator, Viv. Since it seems like the comic is going to rebooted I feel the need to mention my DMoS, which started with Zill and Kayla's chapter. Up until that point, the comic had no main character but a single character you the audience follow around and meet the rest of the cast with: Cameron. She's a human thrust into a strange world and has to learn how the magic therein works. It's through her that we get to know the academy faculty, and it's a dynamic that's written pretty well as shown by the scene where they interrogate the vampires; Cameron is present during a confrontation between characters who have a past she knows as much about as the readers do. Once Zill and Kayla's anniversary plot is introduced, Cameron is nowhere to be found and it's now about these characters we were kinda introduced to through her, but don't know that much about. Viv has this way of assuming that, if you've followed her art for long enough you must know who the characters are. Zill and Kayla are important OC's of hers, but in the context of the story I don't know much about them and it feel weird for the webcomic to abandon Cameron to focus on these two. The comic does this again when we follow Damien and later Addison. WE HAVEN'T BEEN PROPERLY INTRODUCED TO THESE CHARACTERS. The reason this irks me so is that it's so easy for Cameron to be written into these characters' subplots. We see later on that she becomes a guidance counselor which is where Jack tells his and Zill's story, so she's present for their moment of establishment/development. Have her become a guidance counselor earlier into the story, have characters tell her their problems while illustrating it, or heck, after they have their session with Cameron have it be that Cameron get's roped into the drama BECAUSE she's the guidance counselor. Instead of just focusing on Damien, make Damien's nanny's be the ones to drag Cameron around to find him. Instead of focusing on Addison out of the blue, have him be a character who walks Cameron to work so she/we get to meet the characters he talks to on the way there. In a comic such as this, we need a character to keep us ground with their perspective, no matter how passive. Zoophobia as it is now/was has lots of problems character-wise, and the narrative flow of who's perspective we're seeing this through is a big problem.

* {{Tropers/EarthClown}}: {{Critical Miss}} hit an all time low by making this story arc called Chapter 2. Basically it starts off promising, where Erin gets into a fight with Molly and after almost hurting her seriously, she runs off to a bar, and is harrassed by videogame character hallucinations and meets a guy she starts to like. After that, the story dies, the jokes are lame, the entire plot progresses so slow to the point of massive Arc Fatique. And after SIX months of writing that goes absolutly nowhere, a fight that is never shown, and stupid jump cuts to incoherent places, the ending is revealed to make absolutly no sense and has such a stupid shocking swerve it seems that Grey Carter was inspired by M. Night Shyamalan. Then again, what do I expect from a webcomic about videogames?

** Fersh Ferd: The chapters "New Look"/"Billy"; Mandy letting Grim go? It's possible. Billy not noticing Grim is gone? Yes, Billy is practically retarded, but it has been stated several times in the show how he sees Grim as his best friend, and while it is plausible he may not notice Grim missing, the very idea basically defies Billy's character.