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* Tropers/{{Pgj1997}}: Probably the most infamous episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine'' is "[[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS15E17WonkyWhistle Wonky Whistle]]", and I couldn't agree more. Most Thomas fans already know the plethora of problems with this episode, but for the sake of everyone else, I'll go over them anyway. So the plot of the episode is that Thomas is getting his whistle fixed when Sir Topham Hatt asks him to pick up and deliver animals to the "country show", and advertise it on the way. Thomas (who's supposed to be a role model for children by the way) rushes off excitedly before the repairmen finish fixing his whistle. Okay, two problems right off the bat. First off, [[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS1E5ThomasTrain Thomas already learned the importance of patience way back in season one]], so Thomas shouldn't have to learn this moral again. Really, you can replace Thomas with any other engine, and this wouldn't be a problem. Secondly, the writers fail to stay accurate to how a steam engine actually works. A whistle doesn't just magically become a slide whistle when it breaks like it does in the episode. If you want to know what an ''actual'' broken whistle sounds like, watch the episode "[[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS1E20WhistlesAndSneezes Whistles & Sneezes]]", it's much more accurate. Continuing on with the story, Thomas collects the animals, but rushes off before the farmworkers fully close the door on the car. He's blissfully unaware about the constant banging the door is making right behind him as he travels. On his way to the country show, Thomas stops to advertise it, blowing his whistle afterwards. This causes one of the animals to escape from the car, and we reach the exact same problem. He's blissfully unaware that there's something wrong with his whistle that he's heard like a million times before hand, and that the animals are escaping right behind him. Yes, they try to tell him but, get this, he mistakes it for them saying hello... [[WhatAnIdior as he's leaving]]. Thomas does not get punished for doing any of this one bit. He's even called a "really useful engine" by the end of it. Why? The only thing we get is him realizing his mistake, and recapping what we already know. [[SpaceWhaleAesop Yes kids, you can be as ignorant as all hell, but as long as you admit that you were, you won't suffer any consequences]]. Now, I can't talk about Wonky Whistle without talking about what's arguably the biggest problem with this episode: the constant rhyming and alliteration. Of course, this is a Miller-era episode, so that sort of thing is expected, but it's really apparent here, and it gets really grating. I've counted. There's a total of 54 rhymes and alliterations in this episode. 54. Imagine hearing that for 8 minutes straight. That's this episode. It's not hard to see why people hate this episode so much. It's annoying, frustrating, and makes a character incomprehensibly stupid for the sake of the plot. Thankfully, the person who wrote this episode, Neil Ben, [[NoHitWonder never wrote another Thomas episode ever again]], and praise the lord for that.
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* Tropers/{{Pgj1997}}: Probably the most infamous episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine'' is "[[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS15E17WonkyWhistle Wonky Whistle]]", and I couldn't agree more. Most Thomas fans already know the plethora of problems with this episode, but for the sake of everyone else, I'll go over them anyway. So the plot of the episode is that Thomas is getting his whistle fixed when Sir Topham Hatt asks him to pick up and deliver animals to the "country show", and advertise it on the way. Thomas (who's supposed to be a role model for children by the way) rushes off excitedly before the repairmen finish fixing his whistle. Okay, two problems right off the bat. First off, [[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS1E5ThomasTrain Thomas already learned the importance of patience way back in season one]], so Thomas shouldn't have to learn this moral again. Really, you can replace Thomas with any other engine, and this wouldn't be a problem. Secondly, the writers fail to stay accurate to how a steam engine actually works. A whistle doesn't just magically become a slide whistle when it breaks like it does in the episode. If you want to know what an ''actual'' broken whistle sounds like, watch the episode "[[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS1E20WhistlesAndSneezes Whistles & Sneezes]]", it's much more accurate. Continuing on with the story, Thomas collects the animals, but rushes off before the farmworkers fully close the door on the car. He's blissfully unaware about the constant banging the door is making right behind him as he travels. On his way to the country show, Thomas stops to advertise it, blowing his whistle afterwards. This causes one of the animals to escape from the car, and we reach the exact same problem. He's blissfully unaware that there's something wrong with his whistle that he's heard like a million times before hand, and that the animals are escaping right behind him. Yes, they try to tell him but, get this, he mistakes it for them saying hello... [[WhatAnIdior [[WhatAnIdiot as he's leaving]]. Thomas does not get punished for doing any of this one bit. He's even called a "really useful engine" by the end of it. Why? The only thing we get is him realizing his mistake, and recapping what we already know. [[SpaceWhaleAesop Yes kids, you can be as ignorant as all hell, but as long as you admit that you were, you won't suffer any consequences]]. Now, I can't talk about Wonky Whistle without talking about what's arguably the biggest problem with this episode: the constant rhyming and alliteration. Of course, this is a Miller-era episode, so that sort of thing is expected, but it's really apparent here, and it gets really grating. I've counted. There's a total of 54 rhymes and alliterations in this episode. 54. Imagine hearing that for 8 minutes straight. That's this episode. It's not hard to see why people hate this episode so much. It's annoying, frustrating, and makes a character incomprehensibly stupid for the sake of the plot. Thankfully, the person who wrote this episode, Neil Ben, [[NoHitWonder never wrote another Thomas episode ever again]], and praise the lord for that.
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* Tropers/{{Pgj1997}}: Probably the most infamous episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine'' is "[[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS15E17WonkyWhistle Wonky Whistle]]", and I couldn't agree more. Most Thomas fans already know the plethora of problems with this episode, but for the sake of everyone else, I'll go over them anyway. So the plot of the episode is that Thomas is getting his whistle fixed when Sir Topham Hatt asks him to pick up and deliver animals to the "country show", and advertise it on the way. Thomas (who's supposed to be a role model for children by the way) rushes off excitedly before the repairmen finish fixing his whistle. Okay, two problems right off the bat. First off, [[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS1E5ThomasTrain Thomas already learned the importance of patience way back in season one]], so Thomas shouldn't have to learn this moral again. Really, you can replace Thomas with any other engine, and this wouldn't be a problem. Secondly, the writers fail to stay accurate to how a steam engine actually works. A whistle doesn't just magically become a slide whistle when it breaks like it does in the episode. If you want to know what an ''actual'' broken whistle sounds like, watch the episode "[[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS1E20WhistlesAndSneezes Whistles & Sneezes]]", it's much more accurate. Continuing on with the story, Thomas collects the animals, but rushes off before the farmworkers fully close the door on the car. He's blissfully unaware about the constant banging the door is making right behind him as he travels. On his way to the country show, Thomas stops to advertise it, blowing his whistle afterwards. This causes one of the animals to escape from the car, and we reach the exact same problem. He's blissfully unaware that there's something wrong with his whistle that he's heard like a million times before hand, and that the animals are escaping right behind him. Yes, they try to tell him but, get this, he mistakes it for them saying hello... as he's leaving. Thomas, why would people say hello to you when you're leaving? Clearly, there's something wrong. Thomas does not get punished for doing any of this one bit. He's even called a "really useful engine" by the end of it. Why? The only thing we get it him realizing his mistake, and recapping what we already know. [[SpaceWhaleAesop Yes kids, you can be as ignorant as all hell, but as long as you admit that you were, you won't suffer any consequences]]. Now, I can't talk about Wonky Whistle without talking about what's arguably the biggest problem with this episode: the constant rhyming and alliteration. Of course, this is a Miller-era episode, so that sort of thing is expected, but it's really apparent here, and it gets really grating. I've counted. There's a total of 54 rhymes and alliterations in this episode. 54. Imaging hearing that for 8 minutes straight. That's this episode. It's not hard to see why people hate this episode so much. It's annoying, frustrating, and makes a character incomprehensibly stupid for the sake of the plot. Thankfully, the person who wrote this episode, Neil Ben, [[NoHitWonder never wrote another Thomas episode ever again]], and praise the lord for that.
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* Tropers/{{Pgj1997}}: Probably the most infamous episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine'' is "[[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS15E17WonkyWhistle Wonky Whistle]]", and I couldn't agree more. Most Thomas fans already know the plethora of problems with this episode, but for the sake of everyone else, I'll go over them anyway. So the plot of the episode is that Thomas is getting his whistle fixed when Sir Topham Hatt asks him to pick up and deliver animals to the "country show", and advertise it on the way. Thomas (who's supposed to be a role model for children by the way) rushes off excitedly before the repairmen finish fixing his whistle. Okay, two problems right off the bat. First off, [[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS1E5ThomasTrain Thomas already learned the importance of patience way back in season one]], so Thomas shouldn't have to learn this moral again. Really, you can replace Thomas with any other engine, and this wouldn't be a problem. Secondly, the writers fail to stay accurate to how a steam engine actually works. A whistle doesn't just magically become a slide whistle when it breaks like it does in the episode. If you want to know what an ''actual'' broken whistle sounds like, watch the episode "[[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS1E20WhistlesAndSneezes Whistles & Sneezes]]", it's much more accurate. Continuing on with the story, Thomas collects the animals, but rushes off before the farmworkers fully close the door on the car. He's blissfully unaware about the constant banging the door is making right behind him as he travels. On his way to the country show, Thomas stops to advertise it, blowing his whistle afterwards. This causes one of the animals to escape from the car, and we reach the exact same problem. He's blissfully unaware that there's something wrong with his whistle that he's heard like a million times before hand, and that the animals are escaping right behind him. Yes, they try to tell him but, get this, he mistakes it for them saying hello... [[WhatAnIdior as he's leaving. Thomas, why would people say hello to you when you're leaving? Clearly, there's something wrong.leaving]]. Thomas does not get punished for doing any of this one bit. He's even called a "really useful engine" by the end of it. Why? The only thing we get it is him realizing his mistake, and recapping what we already know. [[SpaceWhaleAesop Yes kids, you can be as ignorant as all hell, but as long as you admit that you were, you won't suffer any consequences]]. Now, I can't talk about Wonky Whistle without talking about what's arguably the biggest problem with this episode: the constant rhyming and alliteration. Of course, this is a Miller-era episode, so that sort of thing is expected, but it's really apparent here, and it gets really grating. I've counted. There's a total of 54 rhymes and alliterations in this episode. 54. Imaging Imagine hearing that for 8 minutes straight. That's this episode. It's not hard to see why people hate this episode so much. It's annoying, frustrating, and makes a character incomprehensibly stupid for the sake of the plot. Thankfully, the person who wrote this episode, Neil Ben, [[NoHitWonder never wrote another Thomas episode ever again]], and praise the lord for that.
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Episode order. Because I'm a stingy bitch.
* Tropers/Ciel12: The handling of the aesop in 'Barn Mates'. I guess the point of the episode is that we should always try to forgive and see the best in people, but it was handled very poorly. Lapis dislikes being around Peridot because Peridot was once her jailer. When she initially brushes off Peridot, both Peridot and Steven go to increasing lengths to win her over. Lapis tells Period all she wants is for Peridot to [[GetOut leave]], and (to her credit) Peridot immediately complies. My problem is with Steven chewing Lapis out afterwards - he tells her that she should give Peridot a chance and not decide that she dislikes Peridot without getting to know her. The thing is, this isn't about Lapis not liking Peridot - it's about Lapis being so angry at Peridot that she ''doesn't even want to be in the same vicinity as her''. Lapis had every right to be angry as she had been through some terrible things, but the episode casts Steven as being in the right because he's the AllLovingHero who fixes everything with friendship. The thing is, he expects Lapis to put aside her legitimate feelings of anger just to please him and Peridot and so he can have a happy family. But genuine forgiveness takes time - the aesop could have been so much better if it had been 'you can ask someone for forgiveness if you show them you've changed, but don't expect them to warm up to you when you tell them to.' Instead we get Steven essentially shaming Lapis into repressing her own feelings, rather than the episode admitting Lapis needed more time to heal (for contrast, Pearl and Greg's animosity went on for some time before it was addressed, and that was over their feelings for Rose, not severe harm one party had inflicted on another). Steven is usually wise beyond his years, but here he's just insufferably naive and insensitive, and the episode never calls him out on it.
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* Tropers/Ciel12: The handling of the aesop in 'Barn Mates'. I guess the point of the episode is that we should always try to forgive and see the best in people, but it was handled very poorly. Lapis dislikes being around Peridot because Peridot was once her jailer. When she initially brushes off Peridot, both Peridot and Steven go to increasing lengths to win her over. Lapis tells Period all she wants is for Peridot to [[GetOut leave]], and (to her credit) Peridot immediately complies. My problem is with Steven chewing Lapis out afterwards - he tells her that she should give Peridot a chance and not decide that she dislikes Peridot without getting to know her. The thing is, this isn't about Lapis not liking Peridot - it's about Lapis being so angry at Peridot that she ''doesn't even want to be in the same vicinity as her''. Lapis had every right to be angry as she had been through some terrible things, but the episode casts Steven as being in the right because he's the AllLovingHero who fixes everything with friendship. The thing is, he expects Lapis to put aside her legitimate feelings of anger just to please him and Peridot and so he can have a happy family. But genuine forgiveness takes time - the aesop could have been so much better if it had been 'you can ask someone for forgiveness if you show them you've changed, but don't expect them to warm up to you when you tell them to.' Instead we get Steven essentially shaming Lapis into repressing her own feelings, rather than the episode admitting Lapis needed more time to heal (for contrast, Pearl and Greg's animosity went on for some time before it was addressed, and that was over their feelings for Rose, not severe harm one party had inflicted on another). Steven is usually wise beyond his years, but here he's just insufferably naive and insensitive, and the episode never calls him out on it.
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The ONLY edit I'm making here is that of a spoiler. Other than that, good on ya man.
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** squadallahthistle: For me, just the entire latter half of Season 2 was enough to turn me off of the show. I tried posting my opinions on the YMMV tab as an alternate point of view, but they got removed almost immediately. Now, I'm OK with a show veering into dramatic territory every once in a while, ''Gravity Falls'' did it well (except for "Dipper and Mabel VS the Future"), but the way ''Star VS the Forces Of Evil'' did it just seemed uncomfortable to me. First, Marco and Jackie got together. Then, Starco, which I used to ship HARD, became possible pedophilia after Marco spent 16 years trapped in another dimension. They tried to justify it by saying he doesn't remember much, but it still doesn't feel right. Then, the world just seems to keep beating down on Star, culminating in her having to leave Earth. I'm sorry, didn't this show used to be a comedy? The comedic elements that made me love the show in the first place seem to be overshadowed so much by the drama (and creepiness) of the latter half of Season 2 that I don't even care about when the next episodes will come out. Everyone else on this site sees it as improvement, but I see it as jumping the shark, and the people on the YMMV page for the show apparently don't want anyone who has that opinion to be heard. I'm not the only one who thinks this either, many of my friends on YouTube feel the same way.
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** squadallahthistle: For me, just the entire latter half of Season 2 was enough to turn me off of the show. I tried posting my opinions on the YMMV tab as an alternate point of view, but they got removed almost immediately. Now, I'm OK with a show veering into dramatic territory every once in a while, ''Gravity Falls'' did it well (except for "Dipper and Mabel VS the Future"), but the way ''Star VS the Forces Of Evil'' did it just seemed uncomfortable to me. First, Marco and Jackie got together. Then, Starco, which I used to ship HARD, became possible pedophilia after Marco spent 16 years trapped in another dimension. They tried to justify it by saying he doesn't remember much, but it still doesn't feel right. Then, the world just seems to keep beating down on Star, culminating in her having [[spoiler:having to leave Earth.Earth]]. I'm sorry, didn't this show used to be a comedy? The comedic elements that made me love the show in the first place seem to be overshadowed so much by the drama (and creepiness) of the latter half of Season 2 that I don't even care about when the next episodes will come out. Everyone else on this site sees it as improvement, but I see it as jumping the shark, and the people on the YMMV page for the show apparently don't want anyone who has that opinion to be heard. I'm not the only one who thinks this either, many of my friends on YouTube feel the same way.
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Okay, who's the wise guy who decided to hide this man's entry? He's making his opinion heard on a page specifically for that very reason! It's like my entry only got spared because I LIKE the latter half of season 2! If he doesn't like it, that's great! It makes him UNIQUE! Now leave his entry alone and just let it stick, Moon damnit!
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers because [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike this episode is still utterly amazing on its own]]: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they both try to make things infinitely less awkward by focusing on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, But Ludo is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into perspective, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
%%** squadallahthistle: For me, just the entire latter half of Season 2 was enough to turn me off of the show. I tried posting my opinions on the YMMV tab as an alternate point of view, but they got removed almost immediately. Now, I'm OK with a show veering into dramatic territory every once in a while, ''Gravity Falls'' did it well (except for "Dipper and Mabel VS the Future"), but the way ''Star VS the Forces Of Evil'' did it just seemed uncomfortable to me. First, Marco and Jackie got together. Then, Starco, which I used to ship HARD, became possible pedophilia after Marco spent 16 years trapped in another dimension. They tried to justify it by saying he doesn't remember much, but it still doesn't feel right. Then, the world just seems to keep beating down on Star, culminating in her having to leave Earth. I'm sorry, didn't this show used to be a comedy? The comedic elements that made me love the show in the first place seem to be overshadowed so much by the drama (and creepiness) of the latter half of Season 2 that I don't even care about when the next episodes will come out. Everyone else on this site sees it as improvement, but I see it as jumping the shark, and the people on the YMMV page for the show apparently don't want anyone who has that opinion to be heard. I'm not the only one who thinks this either, many of my friends on YouTube feel the same way.
%%** squadallahthistle: For me, just the entire latter half of Season 2 was enough to turn me off of the show. I tried posting my opinions on the YMMV tab as an alternate point of view, but they got removed almost immediately. Now, I'm OK with a show veering into dramatic territory every once in a while, ''Gravity Falls'' did it well (except for "Dipper and Mabel VS the Future"), but the way ''Star VS the Forces Of Evil'' did it just seemed uncomfortable to me. First, Marco and Jackie got together. Then, Starco, which I used to ship HARD, became possible pedophilia after Marco spent 16 years trapped in another dimension. They tried to justify it by saying he doesn't remember much, but it still doesn't feel right. Then, the world just seems to keep beating down on Star, culminating in her having to leave Earth. I'm sorry, didn't this show used to be a comedy? The comedic elements that made me love the show in the first place seem to be overshadowed so much by the drama (and creepiness) of the latter half of Season 2 that I don't even care about when the next episodes will come out. Everyone else on this site sees it as improvement, but I see it as jumping the shark, and the people on the YMMV page for the show apparently don't want anyone who has that opinion to be heard. I'm not the only one who thinks this either, many of my friends on YouTube feel the same way.
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers because [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike this episode is still utterly amazing on its own]]: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they both try to make things infinitely less awkward by focusing on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, But Ludo is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into perspective, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. What is it with shows ending a season on these kinds of notes, anyway? It's like the WebVideo/NostalgiaCritic said in his Sonic review: "Leaving us on a cliffhanger doesn't guarantee a sequel, it just pisses us off! And even if they do have a sequel, it doesn't always mean it's gonna be good; just be self-contained!" I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
%%** ** squadallahthistle: For me, just the entire latter half of Season 2 was enough to turn me off of the show. I tried posting my opinions on the YMMV tab as an alternate point of view, but they got removed almost immediately. Now, I'm OK with a show veering into dramatic territory every once in a while, ''Gravity Falls'' did it well (except for "Dipper and Mabel VS the Future"), but the way ''Star VS the Forces Of Evil'' did it just seemed uncomfortable to me. First, Marco and Jackie got together. Then, Starco, which I used to ship HARD, became possible pedophilia after Marco spent 16 years trapped in another dimension. They tried to justify it by saying he doesn't remember much, but it still doesn't feel right. Then, the world just seems to keep beating down on Star, culminating in her having to leave Earth. I'm sorry, didn't this show used to be a comedy? The comedic elements that made me love the show in the first place seem to be overshadowed so much by the drama (and creepiness) of the latter half of Season 2 that I don't even care about when the next episodes will come out. Everyone else on this site sees it as improvement, but I see it as jumping the shark, and the people on the YMMV page for the show apparently don't want anyone who has that opinion to be heard. I'm not the only one who thinks this either, many of my friends on YouTube feel the same way.
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* Skapokon: I really like ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', but I hate ''WesternAnimation/UncleGrandpa'', so I wasn't very pleased when the Crossover Episode "Say Uncle" was revealed. While it resulted to be a pleasant surprise and much better than I expected, there's something about this episode that bugs me. Pearl's Portrayal during the episode. I don't know why they did it, but this episode really destroyed the character and made me glad it's not canon. Why? Because they made her way too overprotective on Steven and made her overreact way too much. In the show, she cares of Steven and tries to protect him, but only a bit more than the other two Gems. Here, she is screaming all the time, makes weird faces every time and it just gets irritating. Seeing how this episode parodies parts of the Fandom (Gemsonas, Lars and Sadie's Ship...), something tells me that this is how fans see Pearl. If that's the case, I don't want to know how they portray the rest of the cast.
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* Skapokon: I really like ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', but I hate ''WesternAnimation/UncleGrandpa'', so I wasn't very pleased when the Crossover Episode "Say Uncle" was revealed. While it resulted to be a pleasant surprise and much better than I expected, there's something about this episode that bugs me. Pearl's Portrayal portrayal during the episode. I don't know why they did it, but this episode really destroyed the character and made me glad it's not canon. Why? Because they made her way too overprotective on Steven and made her overreact way too much. In the show, she cares of Steven and tries to protect him, but only a bit more than the other two Gems. Here, she is screaming all the time, makes weird faces every time and it just gets irritating. Seeing how this episode parodies parts of the Fandom (Gemsonas, Lars and Sadie's Ship...), something tells me that this is how fans see Pearl. If that's the case, I don't want to know how they portray the rest of the cast.
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** [=SenorCornholio=]: You know what they say: if an entire movie is so notorious that the entire ''script'' is a [[MemeticMutation meme]], it's probably for a reason. ''Bee Movie'' is just filled with the absolute worst of Creator/DreamWorksAnimation's DorkAge: it's pigeonholed with [[CelebrityVoiceActor Celebrity Voice Actors]], the plot can't stay focused on one subject for very long, and the OnlySaneMan Ken is the ButtMonkey just for finding the whole situation ridiculous (at least Creator/PatrickWarburton still made it manageable; he's always a joy to listen to). There were a lot of hit-or-miss jokes, and the ''Winnie the Pooh'' gag was definitely one of them, but what bothers me the most is the treatment of the bees at the bee farm. Basically, [[CriticalResearchFailure the beekeepers keep them in a confined space]] [[WhatAnIdiot to make more honey]]. The movie, for a moment, completely forgets that bees need ''nectar'' to make honey. Nectar that is found outside. The bees need to go outside, and gather nectar, so they can make honey, for their queen which I recall is still alive ([[UnfortunateImplications and is a drag queen apparently...'kay]]). If they didn't, the StupidEvil employees would go out of business like the bums they are. This, my friends, is one of many reasons that ''Bee Movie'' fails, and I'm glad WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda made DreamWorks into a company that could rival {{Creator/Pixar}}. If it weren't for that, we'd have more of this.
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** [=SenorCornholio=]: You know what they say: if an entire movie is so notorious that the entire ''script'' is a [[MemeticMutation meme]], it's probably for a reason. ''Bee Movie'' is just filled with the absolute worst of Creator/DreamWorksAnimation's DorkAge: it's pigeonholed with [[CelebrityVoiceActor Celebrity Voice Actors]], the plot can't stay focused on one subject for very long, and the OnlySaneMan Ken is the ButtMonkey just for finding the whole situation ridiculous (at least Creator/PatrickWarburton still made it manageable; he's always a joy to listen to). There were a lot of hit-or-miss jokes, and the ''Winnie the Pooh'' gag was definitely one of them, but what bothers me the most is the treatment of the bees at the bee farm. Basically, [[CriticalResearchFailure the beekeepers keep them in a confined space]] [[WhatAnIdiot to make more honey]]. The movie, for a moment, completely forgets that bees need ''nectar'' to make honey. Nectar that is found outside. The bees need to go outside, and gather nectar, so they can make honey. Otherwise, the StupidEvil employees would go out of business like the bums they are. This, my friends, is one of many reasons that ''Bee Movie'' fails, and I'm glad WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda made DreamWorks into a company that could rival {{Creator/Pixar}}. If it weren't for that, we'd have more of this.
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** [=SenorCornholio=]: You know what they say: if an entire movie is so notorious that the entire ''script'' is a [[MemeticMutation meme]], it's probably for a reason. ''Bee Movie'' is just filled with the absolute worst of Creator/DreamWorksAnimation's DorkAge: it's pigeonholed with [[CelebrityVoiceActor Celebrity Voice Actors]], the plot can't stay focused on one subject for very long, and the OnlySaneMan Ken is the ButtMonkey just for finding the whole situation ridiculous (at least Creator/PatrickWarburton still made it manageable; he's always a joy to listen to). There were a lot of hit-or-miss jokes, and the ''Winnie the Pooh'' gag was definitely one of them, but what bothers me the most is the treatment of the bees at the bee farm. Basically, [[CriticalResearchFailure the beekeepers keep them in a confined space]] [[WhatAnIdiot to make more honey]]. The movie, for a moment, completely forgets that bees need ''nectar'' to make honey. Nectar that is found outside. The bees need to go outside, and gather nectar, so they can make honey. Otherwise, honey, for their queen which I recall is still alive ([[UnfortunateImplications and is a drag queen apparently...'kay]]). If they didn't, the StupidEvil employees would go out of business like the bums they are. This, my friends, is one of many reasons that ''Bee Movie'' fails, and I'm glad WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda made DreamWorks into a company that could rival {{Creator/Pixar}}. If it weren't for that, we'd have more of this.
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** [=SenorCornholio=]: You know what they say: if an entire movie is so notorious that the entire ''script'' is a [[MemeticMutation meme]], it's probably for a reason. ''Bee Movie'' is just filled with the absolute worst of Creator/DreamWorksAnimation's DorkAge: it's pigeonholed with [[CelebrityVoiceActor Celebrity Voice Actors]], the plot can't stay focused on one subject for very long, and the OnlySaneMan Ken is the ButtMonkey just for finding the whole situation ridiculous (at least Creator/PatrickWarburton still made it manageable; he's always a joy to listen to). There were a lot of hit-or-miss jokes, and the ''Winnie the Pooh'' gag was definitely one of them, but what bothers me the most is the treatment of the bees at the bee farm. Basically, [[CriticalResearchFailure they keep them in a confined space]] [[WhatAnIdiot to make more honey]]. The movie, for a moment, completely forgets that bees need ''nectar'' to make honey. Nectar that is found outside. The bees need to go outside, and gather nectar, so they can make honey. Otherwise, the StupidEvil employees would go out of business like the bums they are. This, my friends, is one of many reasons that ''Bee Movie'' fails, and I'm glad WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda made DreamWorks into a company that could rival {{Creator/Pixar}}. If it weren't for that, we'd have more of this.
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** [=SenorCornholio=]: You know what they say: if an entire movie is so notorious that the entire ''script'' is a [[MemeticMutation meme]], it's probably for a reason. ''Bee Movie'' is just filled with the absolute worst of Creator/DreamWorksAnimation's DorkAge: it's pigeonholed with [[CelebrityVoiceActor Celebrity Voice Actors]], the plot can't stay focused on one subject for very long, and the OnlySaneMan Ken is the ButtMonkey just for finding the whole situation ridiculous (at least Creator/PatrickWarburton still made it manageable; he's always a joy to listen to). There were a lot of hit-or-miss jokes, and the ''Winnie the Pooh'' gag was definitely one of them, but what bothers me the most is the treatment of the bees at the bee farm. Basically, [[CriticalResearchFailure they the beekeepers keep them in a confined space]] [[WhatAnIdiot to make more honey]]. The movie, for a moment, completely forgets that bees need ''nectar'' to make honey. Nectar that is found outside. The bees need to go outside, and gather nectar, so they can make honey. Otherwise, the StupidEvil employees would go out of business like the bums they are. This, my friends, is one of many reasons that ''Bee Movie'' fails, and I'm glad WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda made DreamWorks into a company that could rival {{Creator/Pixar}}. If it weren't for that, we'd have more of this.
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** [=SenorCornholio=]: You know what they say: if an entire movie is so notorious that the entire ''script'' is a [[MemeticMutation meme]], it's probably for a reason. ''Bee Movie'' is just filled with the absolute worst of Creator/DreamWorksAnimation's DorkAge: it's pigeonholed with [[CelebrityVoiceActor Celebrity Voice Actors]], the plot can't stay focused on one subject for very long, and the OnlySaneMan Ken is the ButtMonkey just for finding the whole situation ridiculous (at least Creator/PatrickWarburton still made it manageable; he's always a joy to listen to). There were a lot of hit-or-miss jokes, and the ''Winnie the Pooh'' gag was definitely one of them, but what bothers me the most is the treatment of the bees at the bee farm. Basically, [[CriticalResearchFailure they keep them in a confined space]] [[WhatAnIdiot to make more honey]]. The movie, for a moment, completely forgets that bees need ''nectar'' to make honey. Nectar that is found outside. The bees need to go outside, and gather nectar, so they can make honey. Otherwise, the StupidEvil employees would go out of business like the bums they are. This, my friends, is one of many reasons that ''Bee Movie'' fails, and I'm glad WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda made DreamWorks into a company that could rival {{Creator/Pixar}}. If it weren't for that, we'd have more of this.
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* Tropers/TommyTiger: I like the ''WesternAnimation/TheMrMenShow'' (it's not as good as the original series, but still watchable), but Mr. Stubborn's plot of the episode "Caves" had one ugly moment: Miss Naughty encounters the Fangosaurus, and it starts torturing her. [[{{Jerkass}} Mr. Stubborn]] does not believe her at all, and when they go away, Miss Naughty is too scared to even speak. In most episodes of this show, when Miss Naughty gets bad luck, it's [[LaserGuidedKarma because she did something to deserve it]]. Here, the worst thing she did was play some non-malicious pranks on the others... and yet she reaches a state of insanity [[FridgeHorror she would never snap out of]] without StatusQuoIsGod. Mr. Stubborn would count as UnintentionallyUnsympathetic but I don't think we were meant to root for him. It's just a [[DudeNotFunny really mean-spirited]] KickTheDog moment towards [[UnintentionallySympathetic a character who didn't deserve it this time]]. And at the ending, we get the Fangosaurus still torturing Miss Naughty. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking You know the worst part?]] This plot was adapted for a book (specifically, "Mr. Stubborn says there are no Monsters in this Book"), and the book version of it is better than the original.
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* Tropers/TommyTiger: I like the ''WesternAnimation/TheMrMenShow'' (it's not as good as the original series, but still watchable), but Mr. Stubborn's plot of the episode "Caves" had one ugly moment: Miss Naughty encounters the Fangosaurus, and it starts torturing her. [[{{Jerkass}} Mr. Stubborn]] does not believe her at all, and when they go away, Miss Naughty is too scared to even speak. In most episodes of this show, when Miss Naughty gets bad luck, it's [[LaserGuidedKarma because she did something to deserve it]]. Here, the worst thing she did was play some non-malicious pranks on the others... and yet she reaches a state of insanity [[FridgeHorror she would never snap out of]] without StatusQuoIsGod. Mr. Stubborn would count as UnintentionallyUnsympathetic but I don't think we were meant to root for him. What I ''do'' know however, is that he counts as a KarmaHoudini. It's just a [[DudeNotFunny really mean-spirited]] KickTheDog moment towards [[UnintentionallySympathetic a character who didn't deserve it this time]]. And at the ending, we get the Fangosaurus still torturing Miss Naughty. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking You know the worst part?]] This plot was adapted for a book (specifically, "Mr. Stubborn says there are no Monsters in this Book"), and the book version of it is better than the original.
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* Tropers/TommyTiger: I normally like WesternAnimation/PinkPantherAndPals, except for a select few episodes. Other times, I might like an episode but hate one part of it. Such is the case of "Pink, Pink, Pink, Pink". It was a really funny episode, but I hate the [[DownerEnding ending]]. While not enough to ruin the epsiode for me, it's the worst part in the episode. After the Pink Panther gets decloned, Big Nose follows him, and what happens next? Does he make amends with Pinky? Does he help him destroy the machine? No, he clones himself and the clones all chase Pinky. It is very possible they wanted to ''kill'' him. First of all, the ending is a very good example of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot. The endings I listed before would have made the episode more enjoyable, but no! We get this ending. Second, Big Nose can be a JerkWithAHeartOfGold if he wants too, even having a lot of EnemyMine moments with Pinky, and this ending makes these moments somewhat uncomfortable. Third, Big Nose [[KarmaHoudini gets of scot-free]]. Fourth, [[DudeNotFunny we're supposed to find this funny]]. How is trying to kill [[NiceGuy Pinky]] funny? I'm a very tolerating animation fan (I've even managed to read a comic version of [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants One Coarse Meal]] and stomach it). This, however, is bad for me, as it was an otherwise fun episode that was almost ruined by a sloppy ending.
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* Tropers/TommyTiger: I normally like WesternAnimation/PinkPantherAndPals, except for a select few episodes. Other times, I might like an episode but hate one part of it. Such is the case of "Pink, Pink, Pink, Pink". It was a really funny episode, but I hate the [[DownerEnding ending]]. While not enough to ruin the epsiode for me, it's the worst part in the episode. After the Pink Panther gets decloned, Big Nose follows him, and what happens next? Does he make amends with Pinky? Does he help him destroy the machine? No, he clones himself and the clones all chase Pinky. [[FridgeHorror It is very possible possible]] they wanted to ''kill'' him. him! First of all, the ending is a very good example of TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot. The endings I listed before would have made the episode more enjoyable, but no! We get this ending. Second, Big Nose can be a JerkWithAHeartOfGold if he wants too, even having a lot of EnemyMine moments with Pinky, and this ending makes these moments somewhat uncomfortable. Third, Big Nose [[KarmaHoudini gets of scot-free]]. Fourth, [[DudeNotFunny we're supposed to find the series treats this ending as funny]]. How is trying to kill Yes, it's always hilarious whenever [[NiceGuy Pinky]] funny? is chased to be possibly ''killed''. I'm a very tolerating tolerant animation fan (I've even managed to read a comic version of [[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants One Coarse Meal]] and stomach it). This, This and my other Western Animation-related DMOS', however, is are too bad for me, as it to even tolerate. It was an otherwise fun episode that was almost ruined by a sloppy ending.
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Too general. The rules state that it has to be a particular moment. No "this whole episode", "this whole season", or "this whole series" entries.
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** squadallahthistle: For me, just the entire latter half of Season 2 was enough to turn me off of the show. I tried posting my opinions on the YMMV tab as an alternate point of view, but they got removed almost immediately. Now, I'm OK with a show veering into dramatic territory every once in a while, ''Gravity Falls'' did it well (except for "Dipper and Mabel VS the Future"), but the way ''Star VS the Forces Of Evil'' did it just seemed uncomfortable to me. First, Marco and Jackie got together. Then, Starco, which I used to ship HARD, became possible pedophilia after Marco spent 16 years trapped in another dimension. They tried to justify it by saying he doesn't remember much, but it still doesn't feel right. Then, the world just seems to keep beating down on Star, culminating in her having to leave Earth. I'm sorry, didn't this show used to be a comedy? The comedic elements that made me love the show in the first place seem to be overshadowed so much by the drama (and creepiness) of the latter half of Season 2 that I don't even care about when the next episodes will come out. Everyone else on this site sees it as improvement, but I see it as jumping the shark, and the people on the YMMV page for the show apparently don't want anyone who has that opinion to be heard. I'm not the only one who thinks this either, many of my friends on YouTube feel the same way.
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**squadallahthistle: For me, just the entire latter half of Season 2 was enough to turn me off of the show. I tried posting my opinions on the YMMV tab as an alternate point of view, but they got removed almost immediately. Now, I'm OK with a show veering into dramatic territory every once in a while, ''Gravity Falls'' did it well (except for "Dipper and Mabel VS the Future"), but the way ''Star VS the Forces Of Evil'' did it just seemed uncomfortable to me. First, Marco and Jackie got together. Then, Starco, which I used to ship HARD, became possible pedophilia after Marco spent 16 years trapped in another dimension. They tried to justify it by saying he doesn't remember much, but it still doesn't feel right. Then, the world just seems to keep beating down on Star, culminating in her having to leave Earth. I'm sorry, didn't this show used to be a comedy? The comedic elements that made me love the show in the first place seem to be overshadowed so much by the drama (and creepiness) of the latter half of Season 2 that I don't even care about when the next episodes will come out. Everyone else on this site sees it as improvement, but I see it as jumping the shark, and the people on the YMMV page for the show apparently don't want anyone who has that opinion to be heard. I'm not the only one who thinks this either, many of my friends on YouTube feel the same way.
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* Tropers/Ninja857142: "Last Day of Summer." If you like it, that's fine, but I found it to be incredibly disappointing and anticlimactic. This was the series ''finale.'' This was meant to be the episode that gave closure. So what happens? Phineas and Ferb do stuff, Candace tries to bust them, some time-shenanigans ensues, and then everything's back to normal! Sounds familiar... The only thing that really changed was [[spoiler:Doof turning good]] (which was a nice touch, I'll admit), but otherwise, this felt like a terrible finale. For all I know, Candace is still going to try to bust her brothers ([[AesopAmnesia she's learned to have fun with life multiple times before]]), Linda still has no idea about her sons' amazing creations, Perry's identity's still a secret, and Phineas and Ferb's "creation" is largely forgettable and hardly even appears! And by the way, where is everyone? What happened to Jeremy and Stacy? Weren't they a part of this great show as well? The memories? This episode is also partly at fault for not explaining what happened to Monty (along with the other finale episodes); Vanessa joins O.W.C.A., but what then? I actually liked "Act Your Age" a lot more; it may not have been as energetic, but it as least showed what happened to lots of characters in the future, and felt emotionally closing and had a real HappyEnding. Since the plot of this episode is a time loop, it all feels like a dream that's largely irrelevant and erased in the end (aside from the [[spoiler:Doof-turns-good thing]]). In a nutshell, "Last Day of Summer" might have been a decent episode, but it was a terrible finale. If it hadn't been for the contributions from other "finale" episodes, I might have been let down by the series' ending entirely.
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* Tropers/Ninja857142: "Last Day of Summer." If you like it, that's fine, but I found it to be incredibly disappointing and anticlimactic. This was the series ''finale.'' finale. This was meant to be the episode that gave closure. So what happens? Phineas and Ferb do stuff, Candace tries to bust them, some time-shenanigans ensues, and then everything's back to normal! Sounds familiar... The only thing that really changed was [[spoiler:Doof turning good]] (which was a nice touch, I'll admit), but otherwise, this felt like a terrible finale. For all I know, Candace is still going to try to bust her brothers ([[AesopAmnesia she's learned to have fun with life multiple times before]]), Linda still has no idea about her sons' amazing creations, Perry's identity's still a secret, and Phineas and Ferb's "creation" is largely forgettable and hardly even appears! And by the way, where is everyone? What happened to Jeremy and Stacy? Weren't they a part of this great show as well? The memories? This episode is also partly at fault for not explaining what happened to Monty (along with the other finale episodes); Vanessa joins O.W.C.A., but what then? I actually liked "Act Your Age" a lot more; it may not have been as energetic, but it as least showed what happened to lots of characters in the future, and felt emotionally closing and had a real HappyEnding. Since the plot of this episode is a time loop, it all feels like a dream that's largely irrelevant and erased in the end (aside from the [[spoiler:Doof-turns-good thing]]). In a nutshell, "Last Day of Summer" might have been a decent episode, but it was a terrible finale. If it hadn't been for the contributions from other "finale" episodes, I might have been let down by the series' ending entirely.
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* Tropers/Ninja857142: "Last Day of Summer." If you like, that's fine, but I found it to be incredibly disappointing and anticlimactic. This was the series ''finale.'' This was meant to be the episode that gave closure. So what happens? Phineas and Ferb do stuff, Candace tries to bust them, some time-shenanigans ensues, and then everything's back to normal! The only thing that really changed was [[spoiler:Doof turning good]] (which was a nice touch, I'll admit), but otherwise, this felt like a terrible finale. For all I know, Candace is still going to try to bust her brothers ([[AesopAmnesia she's learned to have fun with life multiple times before]]), Linda still has no idea about her sons' amazing creations, Perry's identity's still a secret, and Phineas and Ferb's "creation" is largely forgettable and hardly even appears! And by the way, where is everyone? What happened to Jeremy and Stacy? Weren't they a part of this great show as well? The memories? This episode is also partly at fault for not explaining what happened to Monty (along with the other finale episodes); Vanessa joins O.W.C.A., but what then? I actually liked "Act Your Age" a lot more; it may not have been as energetic, but it as least showed what happened to lots of characters in the future, and gave me emotional closure and a HappyEnding. Since the plot of this episode is a time loop, it all feels like a dream that's largely irrelevant and erased in the end (aside from the [[spoiler:Doof-turns-good thing]]). In a nutshell, "Last Day of Summer" might have been a decent episode, but it was a terrible finale. If it hadn't been for the contributions from other "finale" episodes, I might have been let down by the series' ending entirely.
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* Tropers/Ninja857142: "Last Day of Summer." If you like, like it, that's fine, but I found it to be incredibly disappointing and anticlimactic. This was the series ''finale.'' This was meant to be the episode that gave closure. So what happens? Phineas and Ferb do stuff, Candace tries to bust them, some time-shenanigans ensues, and then everything's back to normal! Sounds familiar... The only thing that really changed was [[spoiler:Doof turning good]] (which was a nice touch, I'll admit), but otherwise, this felt like a terrible finale. For all I know, Candace is still going to try to bust her brothers ([[AesopAmnesia she's learned to have fun with life multiple times before]]), Linda still has no idea about her sons' amazing creations, Perry's identity's still a secret, and Phineas and Ferb's "creation" is largely forgettable and hardly even appears! And by the way, where is everyone? What happened to Jeremy and Stacy? Weren't they a part of this great show as well? The memories? This episode is also partly at fault for not explaining what happened to Monty (along with the other finale episodes); Vanessa joins O.W.C.A., but what then? I actually liked "Act Your Age" a lot more; it may not have been as energetic, but it as least showed what happened to lots of characters in the future, and gave me emotional closure felt emotionally closing and had a real HappyEnding. Since the plot of this episode is a time loop, it all feels like a dream that's largely irrelevant and erased in the end (aside from the [[spoiler:Doof-turns-good thing]]). In a nutshell, "Last Day of Summer" might have been a decent episode, but it was a terrible finale. If it hadn't been for the contributions from other "finale" episodes, I might have been let down by the series' ending entirely.
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* Tropers/Ninja857142: "Last Day of Summer." If you like, that's fine, but I found it to be incredibly disappointing and anticlimactic. This was the series ''finale.'' This was meant to be the episode that gave closure. So what happens? Phineas and Ferb do stuff, Candace tries to bust them, some time-shenanigans ensues, and then everything's back to normal! The only thing that really changed was [[spoiler:Doof turning good]] (which was a nice touch, I'll admit), but otherwise, this felt like a terrible finale. For all I know, Candace is still going to try to bust her brothers ([[AesopAmnesia she's learned to have fun with life multiple times before]]), Linda still has no idea about her sons' amazing creations, Perry's identity's still a secret, and Phineas and Ferb's "creation" is largely forgettable and hardly even appears! And by the way, where is everyone? What happened to Jeremy and Stacy? Weren't they a part of this great show as well? The memories? This episode is also partly at fault for not explaining what happened to Monty (along with the other finale episodes); Vanessa joins O.W.C.A., but what then? I actually liked "Act Your Age" a lot more; it may not have been as energetic, but it as least showed what happened to lots of characters in the future, and gave me emotional closure and a HappyEnding. Since the plot of this episode is a time loop, it all feels like a dream that's largely irrelevant and erased in the end (aside from the [[spoiler:Doof-turns-good thing]]). In a nutshell, "Last Day of Summer" might have been a decent episode, but it was a terrible finale. If it hadn't been for the contributions from other "finale" episodes, I might have been let down by the series' ending entirely.
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*** Shadoboy: Just to twist the knife further in with the lackluster villains, at the end of the episode they show for a brief moment Freaky Fred threathening Courage from the TV. Yes, they relegated one of Courage's most memorable enemies to a cameo.
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers because this episode is still utterly amazing on its own: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they both try to make things infinitely less awkward by focusing on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, But Ludo is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into perspective, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers because [[GushingAboutShowsYouLike this episode is still utterly amazing on its own: own]]: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they both try to make things infinitely less awkward by focusing on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, But Ludo is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into perspective, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they both try to make things infinitely less awkward by focusing on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, But Ludo is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into perspective, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: spoilers because this episode is still utterly amazing on its own: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they both try to make things infinitely less awkward by focusing on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, But Ludo is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into perspective, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they both try to make things infinitely less awkward by focusing on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, But Ludo is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they both try to make things infinitely less awkward by focusing on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, But Ludo is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, perspective, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they both try to make things infinitely less awkward by focusing on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they both try to make things infinitely less awkward by focusing on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who But Ludo is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus both try to make things infinitely less awkward by focusing on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she Star leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I hate, period. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then controlled by the spirit of [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I hate, period.dislike, period; maybe a few instances of EarlyInstallmentWeirdness, but nothing more. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then [[DemonicPossession controlled by the spirit of of]] [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...then I found out that this is the season finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I hate, period. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then controlled by the spirit of [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...which again, will be happening in a few months as of this post because this is the season finale. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I hate, period. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then controlled by the spirit of [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...which again, will be happening in a few months as of this post because then I found out that this is the season finale.finale and the outcome will happen in a few months. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I hate, period. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then controlled by the spirit of [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...which again, will be happening in a few months as of this post because this is the season finale. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note.
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I hate, period. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then controlled by the spirit of [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits.]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...which again, will be happening in a few months as of this post because this is the season finale. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note. Now I know how some people felt with [[Recap/AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheCrossroadsOfDestiny Avatar's season 2 finale]].
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I hate, period. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then controlled by the spirit of [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits. not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...which again, will be happening in a few months as of this post because this is the season finale. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note.
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I hate, period. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then controlled by the spirit of [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, with Toffee declaring that he's coming for Star. Moon then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. [[DownerEnding Cut to credits. not ]] Not even the MoodWhiplash ending theme plays this time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...which again, will be happening in a few months as of this post because this is the season finale. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note.
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I hate, period. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "Starcrushed" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans, and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect". Meanwhile however, Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then controlled by the spirit of [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. Not even the MoodWhiplash that is the ending theme plays this time around, it's so somber.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...which again, will be happening in a few months as of this post because this is the season finale. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note.
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I hate, period. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "Starcrushed" "[[Recap/StarVsTheForcesOfEvilS2E41Starcrushed Starcrushed]]" despite only being the season 2 finale. Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans, Mewmans (on top of Star losing her spell book and Glossaryk), and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect". Meanwhile however, Queen "perfect".]] Sounds good for an A plot, but the B plot gets hectic: [[spoiler:Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then controlled by the spirit of [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. Not [[DownerEnding Cut to credits. not even the MoodWhiplash that is the ending theme plays this time around, it's so somber.time.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...which again, will be happening in a few months as of this post because this is the season finale. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note.
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I hate, period. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "Starcrushed" despite only being the season 2 finale. Massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of Star's crush being blurted out in front of several Mewmans, and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect". Meanwhile however, Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then controlled by the spirit of [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. Not even the MoodWhiplash that is the ending theme plays this time around, it's so somber.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...which again, will be happening in a few months as of this post because this is the season finale. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note.
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* [=SenorCornholio=]: [[LampshadeHanging I keep showing up a lot here, huh?]] Look, I just wanna say something: WesternAnimation/StarVsTheForcesOfEvil is one of my favorite shows of this decade and there's not a single episode I hate, period. It's just that...well, let's just say I agree with [=Calamity2007=] that the otherwise decent "[[Recap/TeenTitansS5E13ThingsChange Things Change]]" should not have been the SeriesFinale of WesternAnimation/TeenTitans, and that applies to the episode "Starcrushed" despite only being the season 2 finale. Massive Here's a summary, with massive spoilers: [[spoiler:Star and Marco are on the receiving end of Star's the former's crush on the latter being blurted out in front of several Mewmans, and they just wanna go back to living like they used to with summer vacation about to start, so they focus on just hanging out with the others while they can, with Marco hanging with Jackie and Star going with her friends to a separate party where she can hang loose and talk with Oskar, who Star realizes isn't exactly "perfect". Meanwhile however, Queen Moon Butterfly and the Magic High Commission go to where Ludo is located and proceed to take care of his minions; Moon is almost successful in convincing Ludo to pull a HeelFaceTurn, who is then controlled by the spirit of [[KnightOfCerebus Toffee]], who temporarily ''kills'' Moon and manages to effortlessly destroy the Magic High Commission, including the possibly permanent HeroicSacrifice of [[WhiteMage Lekmet]]. Moon fights Toffee, but to no avail, so she grabs what remains of her allies and escapes, then goes to Star to tell her what's going on and that they now have to leave Earth, possibly forever. [[TearJerker Star then goes downstairs and tells Marco how she really feels]], leaving the latter speechless and Jackie having a HeroicBSOD; she leaves, Marco runs after her, and by the time he makes it, Star's room is completely gone, leaving the old room from the first episode. Not even the MoodWhiplash that is the ending theme plays this time around, it's so somber.]] To put into context, this is a ''fantastic'' episode in my eyes, and I was eager to see where it leads...which again, will be happening in a few months as of this post because this is the season finale. I'm glad this isn't the last episode, because if it was then it'd pretty much suffer the same fate as WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM or the aforementioned WesternAnimation/TeenTitans. Even then, it's kind of a dick move to just have a season end on this kind of note.
