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20th Feb '18 6:31:46 PM DrZulu2010
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* Tropers/DrZulu2010: If David Arquette winning the title was the nail in WCW's coffin and the Fingerpoke of Doom was the moment that killed WCW, the main event at Starrcade 97 might me where the disease who slowly killed WCW was caught. To put it simply, if there is a wrestler who is extremely over in 1997, it was ''Wrestling/{{Sting}}''. The storyline where he observes the NWO and ''Wrestling/HulkHogan'' was masterful with one year to build the same way WWE were doing it with the Mega Powers exploding. So, clearly they couldn't screw it up, right? Well, there is a good reason why there is no WCW network. Hogan was wailing on Sting with the latter giving no offence until the pin where the refree Nick Patrick doing a fast count. Or at least, that was the plan since Nick did a normal three count. And then, out of nowhere, Bret Hart comes up and restart the match to make sure they won't repeat a screwjob like in Montreal. In the end, Sting wins but that also makes him weak since he didn't win clean to Hogan, it makes Bret like a sore loser because he can't let Hogan win even though the ending was botched and it makes Hogan into an invincible villain where the fans are starting to get tired of Hogan and the NWO's schtick. WCW has the perfect opportunity to deliver the final blow to the WWE in the Monday Night War and they blew it. We can blame Sting's poor shape and personnal demons, Hogan's creative control or Bischoff's lack of foresight but it gave the WWE enough time to build up the Attitude Era, leading to Mankind's victory against The Rock the night WCW did the infamous fingerpoke.

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* Tropers/DrZulu2010: If David Arquette winning the title was the final nail in WCW's coffin and the Fingerpoke of Doom was the moment that killed WCW, the main event at Starrcade 97 might me be where the disease who that slowly killed WCW was caught. To put it simply, if there is was a wrestler who is was extremely over back in 1997, it was ''Wrestling/{{Sting}}''. The storyline where he observes the NWO and ''Wrestling/HulkHogan'' was masterful with one year to build the same way WWE were doing it with the Mega Powers exploding. So, clearly they couldn't screw it up, right? Well, there is a good reason why there is no WCW network. Hogan was wailing on Sting with the latter giving no offence until the pin where the refree Nick Patrick doing a fast count. Or at least, that was the plan since Nick did a normal three count. And then, out of nowhere, Bret Hart comes up and restart the match to make sure they won't repeat a screwjob like in Montreal. In the end, Sting wins but that also makes him weak since he didn't win clean to Hogan, it makes Bret like a sore loser because he can't let Hogan win even though the ending was botched and it makes Hogan into an invincible villain where the fans are starting to get tired of Hogan and the NWO's schtick. WCW has the perfect opportunity to deliver the final blow to the WWE in the Monday Night War and they blew it. We can blame Sting's poor shape physical form and personnal demons, Hogan's creative control or Bischoff's lack of foresight but it gave the WWE enough time to build up the Attitude Era, leading to Mankind's victory against The Rock the night WCW did the infamous fingerpoke.
19th Feb '18 10:34:37 PM DrZulu2010
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* Tropers/DrZulu2010: If David Arquette winning the title was the nail in WCW's coffin and the Fingerpoke of Doom was the moment that killed WCW, the main event at Starrcade 97 might me where the disease who slowly killed WCW was caught. To put it simply, if there is a wrestler who is extremely over in 1997, it was ''Wrestling/{{Sting}}''. The storyline where he observes the NWO and ''Wrestling/HulkHogan'' was masterful with one year to build the same way WWE were doing it with the Mega Powers exploding. So, clearly they couldn't screw it up, right? Well, there is a good reason why there is no WCW network. Hogan was wailing on Sting with the latter giving no offence until the pin where the refree Nick Patrick doing a fast count. Or at least, that was the plan since Nick did a normal three count. And then, out of nowhere, Bret Hart comes up and restart the match to make sure they won't repeat a screwjob like in Montreal. In the end, Sting wins but that also makes him weak since he didn't win clean to Hogan, it makes Bret like a sore loser because he can't let Hogan win even though the ending was botched and it makes Hogan into an invincible villain where the fans are starting to get tired of Hogan and the NWO's schtick. WCW has the perfect opportunity to deliver the final blow to the WWE in the Monday Night War and they blew it. We can blame Sting's poor shape and personnal demons, Hogan's creative control or Bischoff's lack of foresight but it gave the WWE enough time to build up the Attitude Era, leading to Mankind's victory against The Rock the night WCW did the infamous fingerpoke.
18th Feb '18 7:41:43 PM nombretomado
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* dictatorsaurus: June of 1991 - Jim Herd fires Wrestling/RicFlair, who was Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA World Heavyweight Champion at the time. Not only did the firing destroy the plans for the Great American Bash, which had Wrestling/LexLuger finally defeating Flair for the title, but it nearly killed the NWA World Title itself. Speaking of the Great American Bash, not only did it end up as one of the worst PPV shows of all time, but it ended with Lex Luger vs. Wrestling/BarryWindham in a steel cage match for the vacant title. What could make that even worse? Luger would win the title, and then immediately turn heel, siding with Harley Race. As big of a DMoS as it was, there was a silver lining later in the year: RickRude's debut as the WCW Phantom (and the centerpiece of the Dangerous Alliance) at Halloween Havoc. The formation of the Dangerous Alliance sparked a critical renaissance in WCW.

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* dictatorsaurus: June of 1991 - Jim Herd fires Wrestling/RicFlair, who was Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA World Heavyweight Champion at the time. Not only did the firing destroy the plans for the Great American Bash, which had Wrestling/LexLuger finally defeating Flair for the title, but it nearly killed the NWA World Title itself. Speaking of the Great American Bash, not only did it end up as one of the worst PPV shows of all time, but it ended with Lex Luger vs. Wrestling/BarryWindham in a steel cage match for the vacant title. What could make that even worse? Luger would win the title, and then immediately turn heel, siding with Harley Race. As big of a DMoS as it was, there was a silver lining later in the year: RickRude's Wrestling/RickRude's debut as the WCW Phantom (and the centerpiece of the Dangerous Alliance) at Halloween Havoc. The formation of the Dangerous Alliance sparked a critical renaissance in WCW.
2nd Feb '18 7:11:48 AM RedTheHedgehog
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* Tropers/RedTheHedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/{{WWE}} Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs (Especially {{Raw Wrestling/WWERaw}}) was the burial of Wrestling/{{Bayley}}. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/{{Charlotte}}, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from {{Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown}} and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[{{Fanservice}} Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[{{Pun}} Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.

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* Tropers/RedTheHedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/{{WWE}} Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs (Especially {{Raw Wrestling/WWERaw}}) Raw Wrestling/WWERaw) was the burial of Wrestling/{{Bayley}}. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/{{Charlotte}}, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from {{Smackdown [[{{Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown}} Wrestling/WWESmackDown}}]] and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[{{Fanservice}} Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[{{Pun}} Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.
2nd Feb '18 7:08:03 AM RedTheHedgehog
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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/{{WWE}} Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs (Especially W) was the burial of Wrestling/{{Bayley}}. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/{{Charlotte}}, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[{{Fanservice}} Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[{{Pun}} Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.

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* Red The Hedgehog: Tropers/RedTheHedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/{{WWE}} Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs (Especially W) {{Raw Wrestling/WWERaw}}) was the burial of Wrestling/{{Bayley}}. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/{{Charlotte}}, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from Smackdown {{Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown Wrestling/WWESmackDown}} and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[{{Fanservice}} Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[{{Pun}} Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.
31st Jan '18 8:46:56 PM nombretomado
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* clownishchimp: The whole Triple H as the COO angle. Before that the angle was about Wrestling/CMPunk shooting on Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and WWE, taking shots at their behind the scenes activities and their attempt at a PG public image. As a result Vince suspended him and decided to give someone else a shot at the title until John Cena confronted him and demanded that Punk get his shot or he would walk out. Vince agrees but says if [[YouHaveFailedMe Cena fails to beat Punk, he is fired]]. So Punk gets his shot, and despite Vince's attempts at another Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, Punk wins and escapes with the title. At this point WWE is getting a ton of praise over the angle and people can't wait to see what happens next. The following night they hold a tournament to crown a new WWE Champion, while Cena is about to be fired by Vince, making people wonder if Vince would actually do it or not. Then the angle goes downhill when Triple H shows up completely out of the blue and announces that the Board of Directors has relieved Vince of his duties (even though Wrestling/VinceMcMahon is the majority owner of the company [[note]]However, according to RealLife business laws, while the majority shareholder does get the final say most of the time, the Board and/or the other shareholders can still file a legal injunction against his actual voting power if they feel that his actions just endanger the overall company too much -- which was presumably what ({{Kayfabe}}) happened here.[[/note]]) and that he is the new COO. There's also the fact that this is Wrestling/VinceMcMahon the man whose been running WWE since the 80's and brought wrestling to the mainstream and boom periods such as the Rock N Wrestling and [[Wrestling/AttitudeEra Attitude Eras]], and who has played the BigBad of WWE programming since the MontrealScrewjob, and yet he's just kicked out of his own company out of nowhere and dropped and forgotten about like a bad date, just to stop him from firing Cena. It gets worse when Cena simply gets the title back the next week and Punk shows up right after he wins it. This has lead to an extremely confusing angle in which HHH and Punk are feuding, yet neither wants to do a FaceHeelTurn, making it hard for the fans to figure out who to root for. Then at Summerslam Punk beats Cena to be undisputed WWE champion, but is then attacked by Wrestling/KevinNash so that Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio, a heel whom WWE had pushed to the moon despite his lack of overness with the fans, can become the new champion. So Cena is now busy feuding with Del Rio for the title, while the angle turns into a three-way feud between Punk, HHH, and Nash(who is the one playing the heel), two of them being semi-retired from in-ring competition. There's a whole mystery over who sent the text to Nash, but he then reveals he sent it to himself, so HHH fires him. HHH and Punk finally face each other at Night of Champions, which has interference from Wrestling/TheMiz, [[Wrestling/RonKillings R-Truth]], and Nash, and HHH winds up winning the match, thus burying Punk. He then fires Miz and R-Truth and makes a Triple Threat match for HIAC between Punk, Cena (who beat Del Rio cleanly to win the title), and Del rio for the title. It ends with Del Rio winning the title despite just losing it weeks ago when Miz and R-Truth attack Punk. This incident leads to the entire roster becoming threatened by an "unsafe workplace"(yeah, they are afraid of the [[SmugSnake MIZ]] of all people), and pretty much everyone on the roster walks out since they do not have confidence in Triple H and want him to step down. Yes, almost the entire roster pulls a FaceHeelTurn because they do not support HHH, whom is being portrayed as the sympathetic face of the storyline. And there's no end in sight for this angle. To make things even worse, they are playing up [[YesMan John Laurinitis]] as the [[TheManBehindTheMan the person, or one of the people, behind the conspiracy]], meaning that potentially the angles payoff of this whole storyline is a semi-retired Wrestling/TripleH fighting one of his [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon father-in-law's]] former stooges for control over WWE. Alternatively it could also lead to yet another feud between Wrestling/TripleH and his wife Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon for control over their father/father-in-law's company. What would make the latter potentially worse is that it may extend to Wrestlemania 28, in which the Wrestlemania ten years earlier saw the last feud between HHH and Stephanie, which was terrible and the match that the feud was building up to, HHH vs Wrestling/ChrisJericho, [[EpicFail somehow got to be the final match on the card over]] [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] vs [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hollywood Hulk Hogan]], one of the biggest matches of all time. And Wrestlemania 28 has Rock vs Cena as the schedule main event. [[FridgeHorror Which means WWE could be repeating history by booking HHH and Stephanie's marriage problems over one of the biggest, most anticiopate matches of all time.]] So basically it looks like this whole thing is just to make HHH [[CreatorsPet the center]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of attention]] once again. And as big as this rant is, it still probably doesn't fully cover how bad this is, but I will leave that to anyone else who has something to say about it.

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* clownishchimp: The whole Triple H as the COO angle. Before that the angle was about Wrestling/CMPunk shooting on Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and WWE, taking shots at their behind the scenes activities and their attempt at a PG public image. As a result Vince suspended him and decided to give someone else a shot at the title until John Cena confronted him and demanded that Punk get his shot or he would walk out. Vince agrees but says if [[YouHaveFailedMe Cena fails to beat Punk, he is fired]]. So Punk gets his shot, and despite Vince's attempts at another Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, Punk wins and escapes with the title. At this point WWE is getting a ton of praise over the angle and people can't wait to see what happens next. The following night they hold a tournament to crown a new WWE Champion, while Cena is about to be fired by Vince, making people wonder if Vince would actually do it or not. Then the angle goes downhill when Triple H shows up completely out of the blue and announces that the Board of Directors has relieved Vince of his duties (even though Wrestling/VinceMcMahon is the majority owner of the company [[note]]However, according to RealLife business laws, while the majority shareholder does get the final say most of the time, the Board and/or the other shareholders can still file a legal injunction against his actual voting power if they feel that his actions just endanger the overall company too much -- which was presumably what ({{Kayfabe}}) happened here.[[/note]]) and that he is the new COO. There's also the fact that this is Wrestling/VinceMcMahon the man whose been running WWE since the 80's and brought wrestling to the mainstream and boom periods such as the Rock N Wrestling and [[Wrestling/AttitudeEra Attitude Eras]], and who has played the BigBad of WWE programming since the MontrealScrewjob, Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, and yet he's just kicked out of his own company out of nowhere and dropped and forgotten about like a bad date, just to stop him from firing Cena. It gets worse when Cena simply gets the title back the next week and Punk shows up right after he wins it. This has lead to an extremely confusing angle in which HHH and Punk are feuding, yet neither wants to do a FaceHeelTurn, making it hard for the fans to figure out who to root for. Then at Summerslam Punk beats Cena to be undisputed WWE champion, but is then attacked by Wrestling/KevinNash so that Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio, a heel whom WWE had pushed to the moon despite his lack of overness with the fans, can become the new champion. So Cena is now busy feuding with Del Rio for the title, while the angle turns into a three-way feud between Punk, HHH, and Nash(who is the one playing the heel), two of them being semi-retired from in-ring competition. There's a whole mystery over who sent the text to Nash, but he then reveals he sent it to himself, so HHH fires him. HHH and Punk finally face each other at Night of Champions, which has interference from Wrestling/TheMiz, [[Wrestling/RonKillings R-Truth]], and Nash, and HHH winds up winning the match, thus burying Punk. He then fires Miz and R-Truth and makes a Triple Threat match for HIAC between Punk, Cena (who beat Del Rio cleanly to win the title), and Del rio for the title. It ends with Del Rio winning the title despite just losing it weeks ago when Miz and R-Truth attack Punk. This incident leads to the entire roster becoming threatened by an "unsafe workplace"(yeah, they are afraid of the [[SmugSnake MIZ]] of all people), and pretty much everyone on the roster walks out since they do not have confidence in Triple H and want him to step down. Yes, almost the entire roster pulls a FaceHeelTurn because they do not support HHH, whom is being portrayed as the sympathetic face of the storyline. And there's no end in sight for this angle. To make things even worse, they are playing up [[YesMan John Laurinitis]] as the [[TheManBehindTheMan the person, or one of the people, behind the conspiracy]], meaning that potentially the angles payoff of this whole storyline is a semi-retired Wrestling/TripleH fighting one of his [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon father-in-law's]] former stooges for control over WWE. Alternatively it could also lead to yet another feud between Wrestling/TripleH and his wife Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon for control over their father/father-in-law's company. What would make the latter potentially worse is that it may extend to Wrestlemania 28, in which the Wrestlemania ten years earlier saw the last feud between HHH and Stephanie, which was terrible and the match that the feud was building up to, HHH vs Wrestling/ChrisJericho, [[EpicFail somehow got to be the final match on the card over]] [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] vs [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hollywood Hulk Hogan]], one of the biggest matches of all time. And Wrestlemania 28 has Rock vs Cena as the schedule main event. [[FridgeHorror Which means WWE could be repeating history by booking HHH and Stephanie's marriage problems over one of the biggest, most anticiopate matches of all time.]] So basically it looks like this whole thing is just to make HHH [[CreatorsPet the center]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of attention]] once again. And as big as this rant is, it still probably doesn't fully cover how bad this is, but I will leave that to anyone else who has something to say about it.
31st Jan '18 3:05:32 PM Peridonyx
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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/WWE Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially W) was the burial of Wrestling/Bayley. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/Charlotte, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Fanservice Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[Pun Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.

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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/WWE Wrestling/{{WWE}} Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially Programs (Especially W) was the burial of Wrestling/Bayley.Wrestling/{{Bayley}}. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/Charlotte, Wrestling/{{Charlotte}}, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Fanservice [[{{Fanservice}} Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[Pun [[{{Pun}} Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.
31st Jan '18 7:37:26 AM RedTheHedgehog
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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/WWE Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially Raw Wrestling/WWERaw) was the burial of Wrestling/Bayley. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/Charlotte, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a Bitch AlphaBitch by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it SarcasmMode. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Eye Candy Fanservice]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad Angle Pun, and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.

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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/WWE Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially Raw Wrestling/WWERaw) W) was the burial of Wrestling/Bayley. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/Charlotte, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a Bitch AlphaBitch [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it SarcasmMode. it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Eye Candy Fanservice]]? [[Fanservice Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad Angle Pun, [[Pun Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.
31st Jan '18 7:33:19 AM RedTheHedgehog
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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current [[Wrestling/WWE]] Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially[[Raw Wrestling/WWERaw]]) was the burial of [[Wrestling/Bayley]]. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, [[Wrestling/Charlotte]], and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[Bitch AlphaBitch]] by the name of [[Wrestling/AlexaBliss]] gets drafted from [[Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown]] and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it SarcasmMode]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Eye Candy Fanservice]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM [[Wrestling/KurtAngle]] thought was a bad [[Angle Pun]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.

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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current [[Wrestling/WWE]] Wrestling/WWE Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially[[Raw Wrestling/WWERaw]]) Programs(Especially Raw Wrestling/WWERaw) was the burial of [[Wrestling/Bayley]].Wrestling/Bayley. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, [[Wrestling/Charlotte]], Wrestling/Charlotte, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[Bitch AlphaBitch]] Bitch AlphaBitch by the name of [[Wrestling/AlexaBliss]] Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from [[Smackdown Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown]] Wrestling/WWESmackDown and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[When When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it SarcasmMode]]. SarcasmMode. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Eye Candy Fanservice]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM [[Wrestling/KurtAngle]] Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[Angle Pun]], Angle Pun, and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.
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* clownishchimp: The whole Triple H as the COO angle. Before that the angle was about Wrestling/CMPunk shooting on Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and WWE, taking shots at their behind the scenes activities and their attempt at a PG public image. As a result Vince suspended him and decided to give someone else a shot at the title until John Cena confronted him and demanded that Punk get his shot or he would walk out. Vince agrees but says if [[YouHaveFailedMe Cena fails to beat Punk, he is fired]]. So Punk gets his shot, and despite Vince's attempts at another Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, Punk wins and escapes with the title. At this point WWE is getting a ton of praise over the angle and people can't wait to see what happens next. The following night they hold a tournament to crown a new WWE Champion, while Cena is about to be fired by Vince, making people wonder if Vince would actually do it or not. Then the angle goes downhill when Triple H shows up completely out of the blue and announces that the Board of Directors has relieved Vince of his duties (even though VinceMcMahon is the majority owner of the company [[note]]However, according to RealLife business laws, while the majority shareholder does get the final say most of the time, the Board and/or the other shareholders can still file a legal injunction against his actual voting power if they feel that his actions just endanger the overall company too much -- which was presumably what ({{Kayfabe}}) happened here.[[/note]]) and that he is the new COO. There's also the fact that this is VinceMcMahon the man whose been running WWE since the 80's and brought wrestling to the mainstream and boom periods such as the Rock N Wrestling and [[Wrestling/AttitudeEra Attitude Eras]], and who has played the BigBad of WWE programming since the MontrealScrewjob, and yet he's just kicked out of his own company out of nowhere and dropped and forgotten about like a bad date, just to stop him from firing Cena. It gets worse when Cena simply gets the title back the next week and Punk shows up right after he wins it. This has lead to an extremely confusing angle in which HHH and Punk are feuding, yet neither wants to do a FaceHeelTurn, making it hard for the fans to figure out who to root for. Then at Summerslam Punk beats Cena to be undisputed WWE champion, but is then attacked by Wrestling/KevinNash so that Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio, a heel whom WWE had pushed to the moon despite his lack of overness with the fans, can become the new champion. So Cena is now busy feuding with Del Rio for the title, while the angle turns into a three-way feud between Punk, HHH, and Nash(who is the one playing the heel), two of them being semi-retired from in-ring competition. There's a whole mystery over who sent the text to Nash, but he then reveals he sent it to himself, so HHH fires him. HHH and Punk finally face each other at Night of Champions, which has interference from Wrestling/TheMiz, [[Wrestling/RonKillings R-Truth]], and Nash, and HHH winds up winning the match, thus burying Punk. He then fires Miz and R-Truth and makes a Triple Threat match for HIAC between Punk, Cena (who beat Del Rio cleanly to win the title), and Del rio for the title. It ends with Del Rio winning the title despite just losing it weeks ago when Miz and R-Truth attack Punk. This incident leads to the entire roster becoming threatened by an "unsafe workplace"(yeah, they are afraid of the [[SmugSnake MIZ]] of all people), and pretty much everyone on the roster walks out since they do not have confidence in Triple H and want him to step down. Yes, almost the entire roster pulls a FaceHeelTurn because they do not support HHH, whom is being portrayed as the sympathetic face of the storyline. And there's no end in sight for this angle. To make things even worse, they are playing up [[YesMan John Laurinitis]] as the [[TheManBehindTheMan the person, or one of the people, behind the conspiracy]], meaning that potentially the angles payoff of this whole storyline is a semi-retired Wrestling/TripleH fighting one of his [[VinceMcMahon father-in-law's]] former stooges for control over WWE. Alternatively it could also lead to yet another feud between Wrestling/TripleH and his wife Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon for control over their father/father-in-law's company. What would make the latter potentially worse is that it may extend to Wrestlemania 28, in which the Wrestlemania ten years earlier saw the last feud between HHH and Stephanie, which was terrible and the match that the feud was building up to, HHH vs Wrestling/ChrisJericho, [[EpicFail somehow got to be the final match on the card over]] [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] vs [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hollywood Hulk Hogan]], one of the biggest matches of all time. And Wrestlemania 28 has Rock vs Cena as the schedule main event. [[FridgeHorror Which means WWE could be repeating history by booking HHH and Stephanie's marriage problems over one of the biggest, most anticiopate matches of all time.]] So basically it looks like this whole thing is just to make HHH [[CreatorsPet the center]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of attention]] once again. And as big as this rant is, it still probably doesn't fully cover how bad this is, but I will leave that to anyone else who has something to say about it.

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* clownishchimp: The whole Triple H as the COO angle. Before that the angle was about Wrestling/CMPunk shooting on Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and WWE, taking shots at their behind the scenes activities and their attempt at a PG public image. As a result Vince suspended him and decided to give someone else a shot at the title until John Cena confronted him and demanded that Punk get his shot or he would walk out. Vince agrees but says if [[YouHaveFailedMe Cena fails to beat Punk, he is fired]]. So Punk gets his shot, and despite Vince's attempts at another Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, Punk wins and escapes with the title. At this point WWE is getting a ton of praise over the angle and people can't wait to see what happens next. The following night they hold a tournament to crown a new WWE Champion, while Cena is about to be fired by Vince, making people wonder if Vince would actually do it or not. Then the angle goes downhill when Triple H shows up completely out of the blue and announces that the Board of Directors has relieved Vince of his duties (even though VinceMcMahon Wrestling/VinceMcMahon is the majority owner of the company [[note]]However, according to RealLife business laws, while the majority shareholder does get the final say most of the time, the Board and/or the other shareholders can still file a legal injunction against his actual voting power if they feel that his actions just endanger the overall company too much -- which was presumably what ({{Kayfabe}}) happened here.[[/note]]) and that he is the new COO. There's also the fact that this is VinceMcMahon Wrestling/VinceMcMahon the man whose been running WWE since the 80's and brought wrestling to the mainstream and boom periods such as the Rock N Wrestling and [[Wrestling/AttitudeEra Attitude Eras]], and who has played the BigBad of WWE programming since the MontrealScrewjob, and yet he's just kicked out of his own company out of nowhere and dropped and forgotten about like a bad date, just to stop him from firing Cena. It gets worse when Cena simply gets the title back the next week and Punk shows up right after he wins it. This has lead to an extremely confusing angle in which HHH and Punk are feuding, yet neither wants to do a FaceHeelTurn, making it hard for the fans to figure out who to root for. Then at Summerslam Punk beats Cena to be undisputed WWE champion, but is then attacked by Wrestling/KevinNash so that Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio, a heel whom WWE had pushed to the moon despite his lack of overness with the fans, can become the new champion. So Cena is now busy feuding with Del Rio for the title, while the angle turns into a three-way feud between Punk, HHH, and Nash(who is the one playing the heel), two of them being semi-retired from in-ring competition. There's a whole mystery over who sent the text to Nash, but he then reveals he sent it to himself, so HHH fires him. HHH and Punk finally face each other at Night of Champions, which has interference from Wrestling/TheMiz, [[Wrestling/RonKillings R-Truth]], and Nash, and HHH winds up winning the match, thus burying Punk. He then fires Miz and R-Truth and makes a Triple Threat match for HIAC between Punk, Cena (who beat Del Rio cleanly to win the title), and Del rio for the title. It ends with Del Rio winning the title despite just losing it weeks ago when Miz and R-Truth attack Punk. This incident leads to the entire roster becoming threatened by an "unsafe workplace"(yeah, they are afraid of the [[SmugSnake MIZ]] of all people), and pretty much everyone on the roster walks out since they do not have confidence in Triple H and want him to step down. Yes, almost the entire roster pulls a FaceHeelTurn because they do not support HHH, whom is being portrayed as the sympathetic face of the storyline. And there's no end in sight for this angle. To make things even worse, they are playing up [[YesMan John Laurinitis]] as the [[TheManBehindTheMan the person, or one of the people, behind the conspiracy]], meaning that potentially the angles payoff of this whole storyline is a semi-retired Wrestling/TripleH fighting one of his [[VinceMcMahon [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon father-in-law's]] former stooges for control over WWE. Alternatively it could also lead to yet another feud between Wrestling/TripleH and his wife Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon for control over their father/father-in-law's company. What would make the latter potentially worse is that it may extend to Wrestlemania 28, in which the Wrestlemania ten years earlier saw the last feud between HHH and Stephanie, which was terrible and the match that the feud was building up to, HHH vs Wrestling/ChrisJericho, [[EpicFail somehow got to be the final match on the card over]] [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] vs [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hollywood Hulk Hogan]], one of the biggest matches of all time. And Wrestlemania 28 has Rock vs Cena as the schedule main event. [[FridgeHorror Which means WWE could be repeating history by booking HHH and Stephanie's marriage problems over one of the biggest, most anticiopate matches of all time.]] So basically it looks like this whole thing is just to make HHH [[CreatorsPet the center]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of attention]] once again. And as big as this rant is, it still probably doesn't fully cover how bad this is, but I will leave that to anyone else who has something to say about it.
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