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-> ''"Fuck This Company!"''
-->-- '''Wrestling/JimCornette''' in response to one of many moments like these.

While maybe professional {{Sports}} can't be used as a DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck, the fact that pro wrestling always has a predetermined outcome means it is also subject to the same moments of suck as its media cousins.

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* Tropers/{{JIKTV}}: Wrestling/ShawnMichaels' "I Lost My Smile" speech from the February 13, 1997 ''Wrestling/WWERaw'', Thursday [=Raw=] Thursday. After regaining the [[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wwe/wwe-h.html WWE Championship]] from [[Wrestling/SidEudy Sycho Sid]] a month earlier at the ''Wrestling/RoyalRumble'', and facing the prospect of dropping the belt back to Wrestling/BretHart at ''Wrestling/{{WrestleMania}} XIII'', in return for Bret having done so for Shawn a year earlier, Shawn takes the coward's way out and forfeits the belt with a bogus excuse. All because he didn't want to do the job and he missed his [[Wrestling/TheKliq three asshole friends]] who were [[Wrestling/NewWorldOrder stinking up the joint in]] Wrestling/{{WCW}}. Despite this, Shawn would remain employed, go on to win the [[http://wrestling-titles.com/wwe/wwe-world-t.html WWE World Tag Team Titles]] in the summer with Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin (which he would vacate, of course), [[Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob win the title for a third and final time]], and eventually go on to be inducted into the [=WWE=] Hall of Fame in 2011 as if this and all his other moments of political bullshit had never happened.
** SaiyanWarrior006: You're only delving into a small part of it. Shawn at that time was argubaly the biggest prick in the Wrestling world with how he acted. Threatening to leave or no show if things didn't go his way. Refusing to put wrestlers over (If he did lose it was by DQ or countout) and a whole lot of other things including throwing a tantrum backstage and demanding he wins The European title at a show in Britain against British Bulldog (despite Wrestling/{{Davey Boy|Smith}} having it in his contract he'd never lose in his home country.) and afterwards gloating and dedicating the win to Bulldog's sister in the front row who had cancer and shortly died afterwards. Shawn would do nothing with it and drop it to his buddy Triple H making it all pointless. If it wasn't for the fact he was one of their bigger stars and it was a difficult time as they needed all the stars and marketable people they could get, his ass would've been fired long ago for the stunts he pulled.
* Blueranger: Wrestling/{{Melina}} vs Wrestling/AliciaFox at ''Wrestling/{{Summerslam}} 2010''. Whether or not you liked Alicia as champion, the way Melina completely buried her in that match is inexcusable. Melina can't help how she's booked (winning the match) but she can help the way she wrestles. Alicia was only able to get basic offence in that match and looked incredibly weak. Things got worse in their rematch for the title - Alicia got no offence in whatsoever. For three minutes all Melina did was beat the crap non stop out of Alicia, burying her once again. These days Alicia is being used as a jobber while Melina got a push of her own and is still being booked strongly.
* Rickysayshi: ''Survivor Series 2006'', Wrestling/{{Lita}}'s farewell from WWE. Who honestly thought this up? After years of dedication she gets sent away by having Cryme Tyme give a "Ho Sale" and sell her "belongings" that include her panties, tampons and a dildo. And you want to know the kicker? Before the segment starts you can see a security guy confiscating a "Thank You Lita" sign from a group of people in the crowd.
** Tropers/tsstevens: I would second this and by rights this should probably be considered worse because of the disrespect shown to Amy Dumas as a person rather than the character she played. However for a moment put this shameful act in context of Lita being a slut heel, that was the villain she was. What brought this on to a degree was the Wrestling/{{Kane}} angle where she is kidnapped and raped. Think about that for a moment: they try and sell a character by using rape. RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil is very much a RealLife trope. It deserves to be treated as being that heinous for real. If the WWE wanted to market Kane or Glenn Jacobs again this would be a major issue, or should have been, instead the whole idea seemed to have been forgotten or buried. To make it worse this seems to be a bout of punishment against Amy Dumas with other incidents such as male abuse and humiliation, all for saying that recreating the kiss she had with Wrestling/MattHardy would ruin the magic. And to make things even worse they had an angle with Gene Snitsky where he caused Lita to have a miscarriage of a baby she did not want in the first place and run with this angle for years. In the words of Wrestling/JimCornette who has spoken out against such ideas, fuck this company!
* L3XJam3s: The Straight Edge Society. First off, it started off simple enough. It was CM Punk and Luke Gallows saving random indie wrestlers in the audience, and shaving their heads to get a "New Start". After a fantastic feud with Wrestling/{{Rey Mysterio|JR}}, the company didn't care that they were the hottest act in the company, and paired them Wrestling/TheBigShow as a rival. What happened next was the subsequent burial of all the talents. Joey Mercury joined for no reason, Serena was gone from the group from ''Raw 900'' and [[{{ChuckCunninghamSyndrome}} never got mentioned again]], and Luke Gallows turned Face for a while, and then he was released. And Punk? He became a color commentator on Raw for 3 months. But Big Show... [[{{CurbStompBattle}} He was busy killing Wade Barrett's new stable, and would do so to the New Nexus, only this time with Kane]].
* gurudyne: [[Series/JerseyShore Snooki]] debuting in Wrestlemania 27. Wrestlemania, as in the crown jewel of WWE's [=PPV=]s, the event that exists as a hallmark of each participating wrestler's career. Sure, it's never been completely free of gimmicks or special guests, but I honestly can't remember someone less deserving of screentime at Wrestlemania, let alone a match. Wrestling/BryanDanielson was bumped off the card for Snooki's match. To make matters worse, this reeks of something TNA would pull.
*** SNL95: While on the topic of ''[=WrestleMania=] 27'' let's add the Corre being squashed in 90 seconds at Wrestlemania. Already having a squash match in a Pay-Per-View is horrible but it gets worse due to the fact that Wade Barret was the Intercontinental Champion and Wrestling/HeathSlater and Wrestling/JustinGabriel were the Tag Team Champions leading to both titles losing most if not all of their prestige. It's especially bad that there was a rematch the next Friday on Smackdown that actually let them come out strong which begs the question why they didn't use the Smackdown match for Wrestlemania and if there was any point to them being squashed.
* Lionheart0: Wrestling/BookerT vs Triple H at Wrestlemania 19 for the World Heavyweight Championship. Up until this point, Booker T is crazy over, the crowd is rooting for him and it looks like he'll finally win the big one. The entire build up has Triple H verbally burying Booker, insulting his skills, and saying [[UnfortunateImplications a person like him]] could never be WHC. Come Wrestlemania 19 you fully expect Booker to finally win the match right? Right? No dice. Booker T gives Triple H everything he's got, but Trips win after a single Pedigree. So not only did Triple H get to verbally bury Booker T, [[KarmaHoudini he ended being proven right at that.]]
* The_Reptile_: This one needs a bit of explaining. After the 2011 Draft, Wrestling/RandyOrton was put onto Smackdown, the apparent plan there to make him the top guy there, much like Wrestling/JohnCena was on RAW. To do this, they needed to put the belt on him as soon as possible. Okay, fair enough. The problem is that fan favorite Wrestling/{{Christian}} got the belt to keep it on Smackdown after Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio got drafted onto RAW. Now, its been well documented that not just Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, but pretty much the entire booking committee behind WWE don't think too highly of Christian as a Main Event player, no matter what fans may say to the contrary. So how do they get the belt off of Christian? Have him keep it until Over the Limit, which is only about two weeks away? Nope! They have him lose it on the Smackdown afterwards to Randy Orton!
** Voidekat: To make things even clearer, that long awaited title that Christian truly deserved? His first ever one? The one that made everybody happy? The heartwarming moment? All scrapped in less than two days.
*** Gravityman: Christian did win the title back a little while later, but unfortunately they apparently decided that Christian isn't allowed to look competent or anything. To put the belt on him, they put them in a match were if Orton gets disqualified, Christian gets the belt. The match then ends with... Orton randomly kicking Christian in the junk, a move so bizarrely out of character that it comes off as nothing but incredibly forced.
* Jables6: Wrestling/JohnCena and Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio failed to stop CM Punk from escaping MITB with the championship. In response, Vince holds a tournament of eight superstars, and none of them is Cena. Wrestling/ReyMysterioJr and Wrestling/TheMiz enter the finals, but their match is postponed by Vince, who wanted to fire Cena in front of the entire WWE universe. Cue HHH. He walks in, not only to stop Vince from firing Cena, but to fire Vince as well, with HHH taking his place. Fast forward one week. Mysterio beats the Miz to obtain not only the first post-[=McMahon=] championship, but his first WWE Championship. Now all that's left is to see how long it will be before Del Rio cashes in his MITB. Then, Triple H pulls what many sports analysts call a 'dick move' and forces Mysterio to defend his title against none other than John Cena in the same night. in less than two hours, Mysterio lost his championship, and not even Wrestling/CMPunk walking out with the real belt around his waist to his old indy theme, Cult Of Personality, blaring through the speakers could end the fan rage felt that night.
* Tropers/KilgoreTrout: I took a break from WWE starting in 2003. There was stuff on the show that made me uncomfortable, such as the infamous Katie Vick stuff, and a sketch involving the Hurricane and Rosey where Rosey tried to rescue a cat from a tree as part of his superhero training and ended up killing it, but I kept watching...until the Iraq War began and Vince [=McMahon=] decided to crank the PatrioticFervor UpToEleven. I distinctly remember Wrestling/JimRoss talking about how great it was that the U.S. was invading that country, taking time out of a pay-per-view to do it no less. And then came the [[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/classic40.html debate between Scott Steiner and Christopher Nowinski]]. Which, as I recall, was preceded a week earlier by Nowinski walking out with a mic to talk about how wrong it was for the U.S. to invade Iraq, prompting [[Wrestling/ScottSteiner Steiner]] to run out and kick his ass on behalf of all "true Americans". And then came "La Resistance", who were heels because they were from France, which had objected to the invasion you see. There was only so long I could continue to watch a show that kept on villifying people with my beliefs and creating [[StrawCharacter Strawman Political]] heels for the baby{{face}}s to destroy. I really felt like Vince's message was "If you're not behind UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush 100%, then you also deserve an asskicking like Nowinski's getting and like La Resistance are getting."
** Tropers/PresidentAlBundy: At least it gave us the classic "I wrestled a lot of countries" line.
* Goldeneye101: I'd say the Wrestling/CMPunk / Cena Feud after Money In the Bank 2011. Not only did the aforementioned tournament happen, but at the actual match, Kevin Nash attacks Punk after he wins and Alberto Del Rio wins the title by cashing in the Money in the Bank. Cena gets pissy because him and Punk work their asses off to end in THAT. There then is a No. 1 contender matchup, where Nash interferes again by distracting Punk. Cena, completely contradicting his actions last week, capitalizes on it to win.
* clownishchimp: The whole Triple H as the COO angle. Before that the angle was about Wrestling/CMPunk shooting on Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and WWE, taking shots at their behind the scenes activities and their attempt at a PG public image. As a result Vince suspended him and decided to give someone else a shot at the title until John Cena confronted him and demanded that Punk get his shot or he would walk out. Vince agrees but says if [[YouHaveFailedMe Cena fails to beat Punk, he is fired]]. So Punk gets his shot, and despite Vince's attempts at another Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, Punk wins and escapes with the title. At this point WWE is getting a ton of praise over the angle and people can't wait to see what happens next. The following night they hold a tournament to crown a new WWE Champion, while Cena is about to be fired by Vince, making people wonder if Vince would actually do it or not. Then the angle goes downhill when Triple H shows up completely out of the blue and announces that the Board of Directors has relieved Vince of his duties (even though Wrestling/VinceMcMahon is the majority owner of the company [[note]]However, according to RealLife business laws, while the majority shareholder does get the final say most of the time, the Board and/or the other shareholders can still file a legal injunction against his actual voting power if they feel that his actions just endanger the overall company too much -- which was presumably what ({{Kayfabe}}) happened here.[[/note]]) and that he is the new COO. There's also the fact that this is Wrestling/VinceMcMahon the man whose been running WWE since the 80's and brought wrestling to the mainstream and boom periods such as the Rock N Wrestling and [[Wrestling/AttitudeEra Attitude Eras]], and who has played the BigBad of WWE programming since the Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, and yet he's just kicked out of his own company out of nowhere and dropped and forgotten about like a bad date, just to stop him from firing Cena. It gets worse when Cena simply gets the title back the next week and Punk shows up right after he wins it. This has lead to an extremely confusing angle in which HHH and Punk are feuding, yet neither wants to do a FaceHeelTurn, making it hard for the fans to figure out who to root for. Then at Summerslam Punk beats Cena to be undisputed WWE champion, but is then attacked by Wrestling/KevinNash so that Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio, a heel whom WWE had pushed to the moon despite his lack of overness with the fans, can become the new champion. So Cena is now busy feuding with Del Rio for the title, while the angle turns into a three-way feud between Punk, HHH, and Nash(who is the one playing the heel), two of them being semi-retired from in-ring competition. There's a whole mystery over who sent the text to Nash, but he then reveals he sent it to himself, so HHH fires him. HHH and Punk finally face each other at Night of Champions, which has interference from Wrestling/TheMiz, [[Wrestling/RonKillings R-Truth]], and Nash, and HHH winds up winning the match, thus burying Punk. He then fires Miz and R-Truth and makes a Triple Threat match for HIAC between Punk, Cena (who beat Del Rio cleanly to win the title), and Del rio for the title. It ends with Del Rio winning the title despite just losing it weeks ago when Miz and R-Truth attack Punk. This incident leads to the entire roster becoming threatened by an "unsafe workplace"(yeah, they are afraid of the [[SmugSnake MIZ]] of all people), and pretty much everyone on the roster walks out since they do not have confidence in Triple H and want him to step down. Yes, almost the entire roster pulls a FaceHeelTurn because they do not support HHH, whom is being portrayed as the sympathetic face of the storyline. And there's no end in sight for this angle. To make things even worse, they are playing up [[YesMan John Laurinitis]] as the [[TheManBehindTheMan the person, or one of the people, behind the conspiracy]], meaning that potentially the angles payoff of this whole storyline is a semi-retired Wrestling/TripleH fighting one of his [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon father-in-law's]] former stooges for control over WWE. Alternatively it could also lead to yet another feud between Wrestling/TripleH and his wife Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon for control over their father/father-in-law's company. What would make the latter potentially worse is that it may extend to Wrestlemania 28, in which the Wrestlemania ten years earlier saw the last feud between HHH and Stephanie, which was terrible and the match that the feud was building up to, HHH vs Wrestling/ChrisJericho, [[EpicFail somehow got to be the final match on the card over]] [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] vs [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hollywood Hulk Hogan]], one of the biggest matches of all time. And Wrestlemania 28 has Rock vs Cena as the schedule main event. [[FridgeHorror Which means WWE could be repeating history by booking HHH and Stephanie's marriage problems over one of the biggest, most anticiopate matches of all time.]] So basically it looks like this whole thing is just to make HHH [[CreatorsPet the center]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of attention]] once again. And as big as this rant is, it still probably doesn't fully cover how bad this is, but I will leave that to anyone else who has something to say about it.
** ryu238: I was alright with the whole angle up until Kevin Nash opened his mouth on the Raw after [=SummerSlam=]. (Though they really should've held off longer on CM Punk's return till at least after [=SummerSlam=]) The whole angle died right there and then despite the WWE's attempts to revive it with Miz and R-Truth. And then it died again once Nash said [[ShockingSwerve he sent the text.]] How does that make sense? And while the vote of no confidence angle was compelling, FridgeLogic took some of the excitement away, and then WWE screwed that up by making the angle null and void, and shit, by resolving it the next week by having everybody just come back in because Trips was replaced by Laurenitis. And Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, who we really never expected to see again, announced it by interrupting a exciting match. EpicFall doesn't begin to describe how badly the whole thing was handled.
** TnAdct1: Oh god, the "vote of confidence" segment is pretty much one of the worst segments ever written for a WWE program, as there's so many problems in that bit that I'm likely going to miss one of them. First, the whole reason for this "vote of confidence" has to do with the talent feeling unsafe due to recent run-ins by recently "fired" wrestlers The Miz and R-Truth. In other words, they are complaining about stuff that's the norm in any wrestling league. That's like saying that hockey players feeling that their sport is unsafe due to the amount of body checking in their games. Second, outside of a referee and Wrestling/JerryLawler (who himself provides another problem in that he votes "no confidence" despite the fact that he clearly points out that this is not Triple H's fault, but rather someone conspiring to overthrow him), everyone who spoke against Triple H were heel wrestlers. Making things worse, among those complaining are [[{{Hypocrite}} Wade Barrett (whose actions during the initial Nexus attack the previous year were far worse than what Miz and R Truth did), Mark Henry (who is booked as a vicious monster heel and had attacked Lawler two weeks prior), and Beth Pheonix (who feels that these run-ins may result in the Divas getting harmed, despite the fact that she's a monster heel Diva and one of only two females to ever wrestled in a Royal Rumble match)]]. In other words, it's [[StrawHypocrite hypocrisy]] at its worst. Third, WWE bookers purposely had all the top faces (John Cena, CM Punk) not take part in this bit, as they didn't want them to receive heat during the walk-out at the end. Hence, rather than have Cena come out and obviously call out all the bull that's been going on here (and hopefully encourage the faces and non-wrestling staff to give a vote of confidence), it turns into basically a thing to make Triple H feel sympathetic to the fans. Finally, [[SpotlightStealingSquad this whole event]] took prominence over actually getting things ready for Vengeance, resulting in two PPV's in a row in which there's only two weeks to have the Raw portion of the card built up before the event.
* OnSoaringWings: 11-22-11 Wrestling/DanielBryan cashes in Money in the Bank against a knocked out Mark Henry, and wins the World Heavyweight Title only for Theodore Long to come out and declare that since Henry was unable to compete the title change was null and void. I'm sorry doesn't that completely fly in the face of almost every single money in the bank cash in ever!? NegativeContinuity should not be used to justify screwing a face over, especially an EnsembleDarkHorse like Bryan
** FusengerShadow: Worse yet, Michael Cole was annoying enough insulting Daniel Bryan before he was champ. Cue Bryan winning the WHC. Does the insulting stop or even diminish any? It sure doesn't! You do not have your featured commentator bury one of your champs! It's like WWE is going out their way to deliberately sabotage Bryan's run at the top. However, Cole has transitioned into being a full Bryan supporter now, as a heel commentator should be. It just took two months longer than it should.
* Tropers/DasNordlicht91: At ''Wrestling/WrestleMania XXVIII'', Daniel Bryan vs. Wrestling/{{Sheamus}} for the World Heavyweight Championship opened the show. You would expect a back-and-forth and hard-fought match to get the crowd going for what could be one of the best Wrestlemania events in recent memory, right? [[spoiler:Nope. Sheamus squashes Bryan in 18 seconds flat with one Brogue Kick to become the new WHC. I mean, wow. You've got two guys who were bumped off [=WM27=] the year prior in a big title match, and it ends in eighteen fucking seconds. Wow.]]
* Tropers/Renelia: Going back in time, it has to be The Invasion and what went wrong. It was supposed to be the biggest angle in (then) [[Wrestling/{{WWE}} WWF]] history. Now, I understand that some of the wrestlers they couldn't get a hold of because of contractual issues. The main problem was that it had a lot of potential and it ended up [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot utterly wasted]] because of unknown reasons. What causes this to be even worse: the wrestlers that were "too expensive", with the exception of Sting, ended up wrestling in the WWF/WWE in the (then) near-future! However, what made this a real wall banger: The so-called WWF vs. WCW battle royal match in November 2001...the last two wrestlers were from the WWF during the Attitude Era. It may have been a deliberate plot for WWF to screw over what was left of WCW, but the entire angle was poorly planned and it's no wonder why it's remembered as one of the [[Horrible/{{WWE}} worst angles in WWE history.]]
** Tropers/CynicalBastardo: And, of course, Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin suddenly turning heel (again) and joining WCW because "they appreciate him." Anyone who knows Austin's career and how he badly was treated in his WCW run, essentially began moving their heads in the direction of the nearest wall.
* [=KantonKage=]: John Cena vs Wrestling/DamienSandow. Sandow first practically destroys Cena's injured arm and cashed in his Money In the Bank and still loses and is buried in the process. Their second encounter, Sandow is treated like chopped liver, [[JobberEntrance meaning no televised entrance]], Cena get introduces first despite coming out last and Sandow doesn't get introduced at all.
* [=O-Zone=]: So does anyone remember when WWE introduced the Anonymous Raw General Manager back in 2010? Where they were represented by a computer (evidently complete with [=GLaDOS=] voice during one night). And then after about a year of putting up with it, the company decided just to do away with it all together without even revealing whoever it was? Yea...well, you know how WWE has been bringing back past General Managers to run both Raw and SD!? Guess who was back on July 9th 2012 Raw? yep, the computer, complete with Michael Cole reading the emails and all. Oh but wait, there's more! At one point, King and Cole were arguing later that night and Cole accidentally throws a drink in King's face, which lead to the GM booking a Wrestlemania rematch between the two...so yea we get a rehash of that match, like we really needed it...Booker and Josh come out to commentate it and after Cole tries to escape before hand, Booker throws him in the ring, and Jerry Lawler pins him in about 10 seconds....but then, the GM reverses the decision because Booker interfered (as in simply throwing Cole back in the ring, how is that considered interference?) and declares Cole the winner ([[HereWeGoAgain Yes, just like at Mania]]). But wait! Here comes the [[SarcasmMode "Best"]] part of all! Wrestling/SantinoMarella, who has been doing detective work (complete with Sherlock Holmes hat) throughout the night to try and find out who the Raw GM is, comes out and declares that he's "solved the case" or something like that; he determines that the Raw GM is under the ring (and you base this on what?) cue the annoying "ding" and the email says there is no one under the ring...of course Santino goes under and...it's, ready for this, [[spoiler:Hornswoggle (yes, the Little Bastard/Illegitimate Child of Vince [=McMahon=]....The Anonymous Raw GM, introduced about 2 years ago, then just disappeared, is finally revealed to be hornswoggle all along...]] Remind me again, why do people think TNA is the worst company?
* Cynical Bastardo: Wrestlemania IX. Yokuzuna beats Wrestling/BretHart and is shown to be an unstoppable monster heel. That is, until Wrestling/HulkHogan comes down and challenges Yoko for the title and beats him in no time at all. Further still, Hogan didn't defend the title again until Wrestling/KingOfTheRing (and refused to job to Bret).
** Tropers/{{Krendall}}: To make things worse, the original plan was for Hogan to have one more run with the title and then drop the belt to Hart in a "passing the torch" moment at Kin of the Ring or Summer Slam. Hogan then decided to take a three-month vacation immediately after Wrestling/WrestleMania (not even making TV appearances), pissing off management so much that they demand he drop the belt at [=KotR=] and leave the company. Even then Hogan refused to put Bret Hart over, only agreeing to drop the belt back to Wrestling/{{Yokozuna}}.
* Armando Payne: 2013 Royal Rumble. Punk V Rock. Rock winning with 2 fucking moves. It's like David Arquette being the WCW champion all over again.
* Smapti: At Summerslam 2013, Daniel Bryan faced John Cena for the WWE championship. Going into this feud, Bryan was massively over, to the point that Cena actually ended up working as a heel during the nearly half-hour-long wrestling clinic of a match that ensued. In the end, Bryan pinned Cena and won the match, being one of the few people to ever score a clean title victory over Cena, and the crowd went wild. You'd think that would be Bryan's crowning moment of awesome, wouldn't you? Bryan's reign lasted three minutes. No sooner had his celebration finished than guest referee Triple H gave him a Pedigree which instantly knocked him unconscious (despite his taking much worse punishment from Cena during the match itself), allowing Randy Orton to come out, cash in his Money in the Bank contract, and pin Bryan in the shortest world championship match in WWF/E history (breaking the 8-second record set by Wrestling/BobBacklund and Diesel in 1994) to win the championship and set up Orton, HHH, Vince [=McMahon=], and (for some reason) Wrestling/TheShield as a rehash of the Corporation stable from the Attitude Era. It becomes even worse when you consider that the entire reason HHH had inserted himself as guest referee in the first place was to prevent Vince from having a crooked referee fix the match against Bryan. The entire audience wanted to see Bryan become champion, and instead he got squashed and buried, completely ruining what could have been the defining moment of his career, in order to reboot an angle from fifteen years prior.

* [=ChrisDV=]: The WWE's inability to develop new stars, and constantly relying on Cena & Orton. With the Attitude Era stars finally retiring, the WWE has a severe lack of star power & has become increasingly reliant on Cena & Orton. Even though they have pushed some superstars to the main event - such as CM Punk, the Miz & Daniel Bryan - the only one you can argue is truly still a main eventer is Punk, with the likes of Miz & Bryan being immediately shoved back down to midcard status after their world title feuds have finished, and that's largely because of how long Punk was champion & that he went from the WWE champion to a feud with the Undertaker. If Orton & Cena both suffered lengthy injuries between now & [=WrestleMania=], the WWE would be forced to rely on mid-carders & part-timers for their biggest show of the year. And part of the problem is that when someone (Like Zack Ryder, Wrestling/DolphZiggler or Daniel Bryan) gets over on their own, the WWE take it upon themselves to give them a moment in the spotlight before throwing them back down to an even worse spot on the card than before, seemingly because they didn't choose that superstar to be pushed.
* [=HeavyMetalSnail=]: Batista winning the 2014 Royal Rumble. There are so many reasons why this sucks. First, Batista had not worked with the company since 2010 and has only been back for around a month, making it absurd that he were to win something so big after being with the company for such a short amount of time. Second, he won the rumble by eliminating young Roman Reigns after Reigns broke Kane's elimination record in a rather effortless and anticlimactic fashion, completely derailing the momentum that he built up in the match. Third, the match was stacked with several people who had not only worked for the company longer, had not won the rumble before, and have shown themselves to be far greater talent than Batista (CM Punk, Antonio Cesaro, The Shield, The Wyatt Family, Big E Langston, and Dolph Ziggler being the most notable examples). Fourth, Batista is guaranteed a title match at Wrestlemania over several more over wrestlers, including the beloved Daniel Bryan (who was not even in the match), signifying that WWE would rather have a match featuring a 45 year old has-been rather than one of their more popular, younger, and better wrestlers who would actually benefit from a rumble win and a world title match. This finish was so bad, that it seems like WWE was trying to piss off their fans and alienate their viewers. It is proof positive that WWE hates their fans and does not want to listen to them. Why else would they not push any of the wrestlers that the fans actually like? It was an abysmal finish that shows that WWE wants to keep rehashing the same old shit instead of actually trying to run a wrestling company properly. This is the kind of garbage that you expect from WCW.
** [=KiraBlaize=]: Batista made his return six days earlier. He stated he was going to take Randy's title before the segment was over. What makes it worse is how PREDICTABLE this was. Once CM Punk was eliminated (By KANE, who was eliminated earlier no less) and the crowd realized that Bryan would NOT be in the rumble, they turned on EVERYONE. The rage was so great that after Batista won (adding the the rage I might add) he was so pissed at the crowd that he flipped them off. Mind you, Dave is FACE here.
** [=GX Next=]: Looking at it from a booking perspective was a real crap moment. Look at the Legends panel; the COO's hero growing up and his bestie. Who wins the tag titles? COO's Wrestling/DgenerationX stablemates the New Age Outlaws, a {{tag team}} with a combined age of 94. Who is still the WWEWHC? COO's Evolution stablemate. Who is the surprise legend entrant into the Royal Rumble? Kevin Nash, not Diesel as he had been a mere three years prior, Kevin Nash. Finally who is the winner of the Rumble? COO's other Evolution stablemate. Any one or two of these would have been okay and honestly Shawn Michaels and Ric Flair on the legends panel was more than justified, but all of that together makes me think this should have been called Kliq-a-mania than rather than the Royal Rumble.
* Tropers/{{Totaldramawwe}}: One of the things I didn't like about Wrestling/WrestleMania XXX (don't get me wrong, I like it) was when John Cena beat Wrestling/BrayWyatt with the AA. My problem is not because he defeated Bray, but because this was the time where Cena could have developed his character with the whole storyline he and Bray had been through the past few weeks and what became of it? Nothing, just nothing. Luckily for the Wyatts, they beat John with Sheamus and Big E on the day after the event, but it was still a waste of a good plot and some great character development for John.
** Tropers/[Zerombr]: Agreed, and even more so was this stupid 'will Cena give in to......evil?' shtick. Where the REF was the one telling him that 'he's better than this'. And Cena panicking so atrociously. It was horrific. Bray says "I know how to beat you now" and....nothing comes of it, nothing at all. Just horrible use of my man, Bray Wyatt, in a match that goes absolutely nowhere.
* ColeYote: Back in time a couple years, John Cena vs The Miz I Quit match at Over The Limit 2011. Match was a half-hour 2-on-1 beatdown of John Cena which "ended" with a rehash of the Rock/Mankind recorded "I quit" dirty finish. Except the referee decided to be smart for once, checked it out and restarted the match. John Cena then no-sells half an hour of injuries and literally wins with four moves, one of which was ducking a title belt to the head and another of which was a bit of pants belt whipping (which, as a masochist, I can say is hardly crippling). I cannot overstate the absurdity of it. I mean, I am not exaggerating when I say it was half an hour of The Miz beating on John Cena only for John to completely forget about it as soon as the match was restarted.
* WWE Raw - 8/25/2014: After he got absolutely demolished by Wrestling/BrockLesnar at Wrestling/SummerSlam, we were supposed to hear from what should've been a "walking wounded" John Cena and his crazy reasoning for why he wants to rematch Brock right away at Night of Champions. Instead we get a do-nothing "Hall of Famers" conference with Hulk Hogan kissing up to Cena, Cena comes out, selling absolutely nothing from his beatdown by Lesnar other than "Oh, I got my ass kicked" and instead of the same impassioned promo we heard from him before Summer Slam, just flatly says he's going to beat Brock Lesnar's ass, doing absolutely nothing to sell his destruction at Summer Slam or even sell the rematch at NOC, which we can only hope is not WWE's cheap way of popping the belt back on Cena to tie Flair's world title record and take even further refuge under their ever thinning security blanket that is John Cena.
* falcon2484: For me, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JODV1xJNlrU the introduction of the Gobbledy Gooker at Survivor Series 1990]] came very close to destroying all my enthusiasm for wrestling. Was Vince [=McMahon=] on drugs?
* Tropers/TotzthePlaid: For me, it's not a stupid character or plot twist that comes to mind as the WWE's D.M.o.S. (though there are many that are mind-numbingly bad), but rather a brain-dead moment where the very rules of a match were completely forgotten by every single person involved. All five wrestlers (John Cena, Wrestling/DeanAmbrose, Randy Orton, Kane and Wrestling/SethRollins), the referee, and all three commentators (JBL, Michael Cole, and Jerry Lawler) completely forgot that a Street Fight is basically a no-holds-barred-all-weapons-allowed-free-for-all brawl, not a handicap tag-team match. This lasted for at least ten minutes of tagging in and out, everyone staying in the ring, the referee breaking up holds and counting on "illegal" actions, with everyone acting like it was normal. The WWE's had many moronic things happen since I started watching, but the main event of the October 20, 2014 Raw is the only time I rage-quit a match so far. (I've read that it broke out into chaos later in the overrun, but that's what the match stipulation promised from the start, not well-ordered idiocy.)
* Zepkhan: Survivor Series 2014... the match was going alright, Wrestling/DolphZiggler was kicking out at 2 for everything but apart from that it was ok. Then Wrestling/TheBigShow took out Wrestling/JohnCena leaving Ziggler in a 1 on 3. [[UnderdogsNeverLose You could basically predict the rest from there.]] Ziggler eliminated Wrestling/LukeHarper by [[NoSell no-selling]] [[UpToEleven a powerbomb]] and Kane. Then Wrestling/TripleH took matters into his own hands by stopping 2 pins on Rollins and bringing in Scott Armstrong FTW? Nope. [[Wrestling/{{Sting}} Some relic from an angle cancelled a long time ago]] comes in for his debut as Armstrong's on 2 and Armstrong completely [[ForgotAboutHisPowers forgets how to count]]... to cap this off, the crowd not only approves but cheers.
* Tropers/saltyoven: The 2015 Royal Rumble was already a terrible PPV with only the triple threat championship match standing out as a good match, but the big dethroning moment occured at the actual royal rumble. After Daniel Bryan was eliminated, people realized quickly that Roman Reigns was going to win it. Okay this is going to need bullet points on why this was a terrible idea from the get go. 1. This would mean that Wrestlemania 31 will only be Roman Reigns 2nd singles match in a PPV and he's already in a match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship, it makes Brock Lesnar Look like a complete and utter chump with his push to being the champion. 2. After Daniel Bryan was eliminated, people still kept chanting for him and were booing every other entrant afterwards. 3. Towards the end of the match, there were "We want Wrestling/{{Rusev|AndLana}}!" Chants. Yes, people would rather see an anti-american Heel win than the babyface. 4. By sheer location at which the royal rumble was held: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. To give an idea, that is pretty much smark HQ. And because everyone was booing there, casual fans will buy into the booing and dislike the result as well. This also has the potential to be filed under the DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible page because after that night, within 24 hours WWE Network lost 300,000 subscribers, the #1 trending Hashtag on Twitter was [=#CancelWWENetwork=], and they lost subs so quickly, [[DemandOverload the website actually crashed]] trying to keep up with the cancellations.
* NazirulTakashi: Okay. As a long time WWE fan, I've endured a lot of stupid things that I could easily put on this page. But I'm not going to put them easily due to the fact that I could only pit one stupid thing on this page only. But after the 23/2/2015 edition of RAW, I've finally found something to be written here. In that show there's a Divas Match between Wrestling/{{Emma}} and Wrestling/{{Paige}} against the Wrestling/BellaTwins. What makes me to put that match as a DMOS? The way WWE treated the match of course! First of all, Paige makes her entrance before going to the Commercials and showing a Sting promo. In other words, Paige is in that ring for 10 minutes while those things are happening (while at that time, Emma does a JobberEntrance). Then the match starts... which instantly ended in 30 seconds with the Bellas winning the match. So let me get this straight? WWE RAW is 3 hours and yet they can only give the Divas 30 seconds worth of screen time? The way the Divas Division were handled were pretty insulting towards the fans of said Division to the point that [=#GiveDivasAChance=] were trending No 1 on Twitter, hoping that the Division improves someday! If that doesn't change the WWE's view in handling the Divas Division, I don't know what will.
* Gravityman: The entire Wrestling/RomanReigns push has been pretty bad, so there are a lot of things that could be added. His Royal Rumble win was really awful, but it was actually topped later. For the new Fastlane PPV, WWE made it look like they were throwing the audience a bone by booking Reigns to defend his title shot against Daniel Bryan, who never really lost his title. Everything is fine with that, the match itself was pretty good, and then Reigns went over, despite what the crowd wanted. This in itself isn't horrible, but on the Raw the night afterward, WWE had Bryan cut a promo where he put Reigns over, and by "put over" I mean he all but got on his knees and begged his fans to like Reigns (many likened it to "verbal fellatio"). It seemed more than anything like Bryan himself was simply giving up and accepting whatever WWE was going to give him. The entire thing was a pretty clear message from WWE that what the fans actually want doesn't matter at all and many fans completely gave up on the company after this whole thing.
* Tropers/SomeoneElse17: I have been around for a ''lot of shit''. In over 16 years as a wrestling fan, and even having watched further back than when I started, I have seen asinine booking decisions, start/stop pushes, horribly-executed fails, and more. Many of the moments listed on this page, I've seen and I totally agree. In fact, until now, I was on the page simply backing up one of these with a followup based on it that sucked. However, none have made me so thoroughly done with a character despite my utmost respect for the performer than what the 9/28/2015 ''RAW'' did to Wrestling/{{Kane}}. After several cringeworthy backstage segments between Kane, Wrestling/SethRollins, and a [[OneShotCharacter Human Resources director named Ashley]] who was "evaluating" Kane's ability to remain Director of Operations after an "anonymous complaint" came in, we were treated to a long and tedious in-ring promo about her "report" that far overstayed its welcome. The whole thing [[IncompetenceInc made a total mockery of WWE's HR department and managerial structure]], making one wonder how these people manage to run a near-billion-dollar company all the time. But that wasn't the worst yet to come. When Seth finally confronted Kane in the ring after Ashley ''somehow'' judged '''[[AxCrazy K]][[PlayingWithFire A]][[ImplacableMan N]][[UnnecessaryRoughness E]]''' to be sane, kind, and professional enough to remain Director of Operations, Seth attacked Kane with an awkward Pedigree and then proceeded to beat on his leg with a chair, re-breaking his ankle and sending him back into an ambulance. But then the ambulance stopped on a dime, red weed smoke could be seen flashing from it, and [[SplitPersonality Corporate Kane became Demon Kane]], first hobbling out of the ambulance, then suddenly popping the leg back to normal with a stomp, making a beeline with flames towards Rollins, and ''no-selling chair attacks to the leg''. 18 years in the company being Mr. Hellfire and Brimstone[[note]]as Kane; Jacobs has been wrestling overall 23 years[[/note]], hundreds of losses, several times out with injury, ''the reason he's after Rollins is partly because of an injury Seth made worse on purpose which forced him out for months,'' [[note]]the other part being the months Seth spent being a dick to Kane beforehand,[[/note]] yet I'm supposed to believe '''NOW''' that he's got this outstanding supernatural HealingFactor complete with [[Anime/DragonBallZ Zenkai]]. There's AcceptableBreaksFromReality. There's CanonDiscontinuity. There's even the IdiotBall. And then there's such a level of story-booking incompetence that it will outright break my WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief by throwing out all rules and boundaries involved with an act. This is where we are right now with Kane. As much as I respect Glenn Jacobs, he needs to finally retire and move on to work backstage, because the character has officially crossed over into being completely stupid and unreliable.
* Nyame: ''Wrestling/SurvivorSeries 2015'': This PPV had a lot of stupid moments, but I'm just going to mention the main event to cut time. Okay, you're original world champion was injured and you're having a tournament to determine a new champion. You've got Wrestling/RomanReigns, the original number one contender, and Wrestling/DeanAmbrose, best friends and self-proclaimed "brothers" in opposite blocks of the tournament, making it blatantly obvious who's going to the finals (especially since Wrestling/SethRollins, the third of their number who betrayed them, was the champion who got injured). Predictable? Sure. But this was what the fans, including this troper, wanted, especially if they weren't going to get the Rolleigns match. Then comes the actual match. Which is nine minutes long. Nine minutes. ''For a '''world title match'''''. It's not like the performers lacked chemistry or intensity, and sure, they may have wrestled the semi-finals earlier in the night, but would it have killed them to be given five or so more minutes? And then there's after the match. Where Wrestling/{{Sheamus}}, a heel who has been booked into nigh-oblivion since he returned and has been regarded as irrelevant for ''years'' now, cashed in and won the title off of Wrestling/RomanReigns, in a blatant rehash of ''Wrestling/SummerSlam 2013'' two years before. Reports came in the next day that the only reason this happened is because Vince didn't want Reigns to be booed when he won, and it was booked hours before the show started. There were so many missed opportunities to do something new and exciting in this PPV, and they absolutely blew every single one of them. Just because they're so desperate to get their chosen guy over as the next Wrestling/JohnCena, they put the title on a guy that no one, not even the company itself, wanted on top. Just another event that proved that WWE doesn't give a damn about what their fans think and is more willing to overwear a long since outdated formula rather than do something spontaneous and new. It shouldn't have been surprising that the ratings for RAW the next night dropped to the lowest rating for a non-holiday episode in the last eighteen years.
* Jon Milne: One of the most distasteful things I have ever come across as a wrestling fan is the exploitation of real life deaths of people connected to wrestling for use in storyline angles, which namely tends to happen via the heel characters mocking the face characters about the death of said wrestling personality, but such efforts only tend to succeed in bringing really cheap heat from fans and smack of incredibly lazy and bad taste storytelling - Paige bringing up Reid Flair to Charlotte, and CM Punk bringing up Paul Bearer to the Undertaker being notable examples in recent years. But to me, the absolute nadir of this kind of thing was the "Eddie-sploitation" of 2006, in which the death of Eddie Guerrero was repeatedly utilised in truly disgusting storylines and angles, not least Randy Orton being scripted to tell Rey Mysterio that Eddie was "in hell", and that Rey had as much chance of beating Orton as Eddie had of coming back to life. Mark Henry would get in on the act, telling the Guerreros that he would spit on Eddie as well as the other family members if he was alive. And then Chavo and Vickie would be cast as the villains (yes, the ''villains'') in the feud they would have with Rey, and later Chris Benoit, and Eddie's name would keep on getting brought up despite fans very obviously hating that the WWE kept doing this. To understand how offensively bad this is, this is to date the only Gooker Award winning induction on Wrestlecrap to not contain any pictures or jokes, just straight up criticism about how truly full of bad taste this angle was.
* {{emmens}}: Wrestlemania 32 was bad and there are so many things I could call a dethroning moment of suck. The cheap use of legends, The Rock being in a "match" with Erick Rowan, the placement of the Undertaker vs Shane [=McMahon=] match where the fate of the wwe hung in the balance. but I think the truest dethroning moment of suck from all of this most recent Wrestlemania was from the night after. The opening ladder match ended in the best feel good moment of the year where Zack Ryder won his first Wresltemania match to become Intercontinental champion. this is significant due to how wwe has chosen to use Zack Ryder before this point (google it so this entry doesn't get too long.) and immediately on raw the next night Zack loses the championship, to The Miz, because his wife Maryse distracted Ryder. Absolutely disgusting.
* Tropers/DrZulu2010: I removed my original entry because, speaking of Undertaker vs Shane O' Mac, in the end, the Hell In A Cell match between them was that because of how moot the whole thing was. Shane, despite losing, still has control of Raw and the Undertaker may have wrestled his final match (or at least, his final non-wrestlemania match) while giving Shane a proverbial slap on the wrist. For something like that to happen on Wrestlemania, which is supposed to be similar to a season finale was a good sign of Vince's lack of long-term thinking.
* Tropers/{{chucknormie}}: For me, it was the push to the moon of [[Wrestling/FergalDevitt Finn Bálor]] following his official main roster debut in August 2016. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the man himself. I think Finn is one of the best athletes in the company as a whole, and definitely deserves to be at the top of the card for at least some of his career. What I don't get is how WWE screwed up such an easy angle to run. You'd think a likeable, charismatic guy like Finn would get the crowd on his side pretty easily after a few weeks and then get a push, right? Nope, WWE hotshotted him to winning their brand-new Universal Championship (still one of the worst names and belt designs I've ever seen, btw), right out of the gate when most of the casual fans were still scratching their heads over who exactly he was, or just cheering him because he wasn't Wrestling/RomanReigns. It doesn't help matters how management made Wrestling/SethRollins, his opponent, play the same cowardly chickenshit heel character the fans were tired of seeing against him, and how Finn continually made him look like a chump, and Finn saying he "earned" the opportunity when people like Wrestling/SamiZayn have been toiling in the lower midcard for more than a year is more than laughable. The "Demon King" was intimidating on NXT, but just plain cheesy on the main roster, and I feel like the "feud" was less of that and more of Vince or someone in management trying to throw the smarks a bone after realizing that they buy most of the merchandise nowadays, disregarding the fact that a bland, flat character pushed to the moon is exactly what the smarks don't want to see once the novelty wears off. Wrestling/{{WWENXT}}, while great, has one major flaw as seen in this case: it allows wrestlers to coast on their independent reputation with the smarky crowd and doesn't develop characters in many occurrences. In a strange way, Finn's injury may have helped out all the parties more in the long run: it created a comeback narrative that most fans can get behind for the man himself, allowed Rollins to finally complete his turn into the badass AntiHero we all wanted to see, and gave a title reign to [[spoiler:[[Wrestling/KevinSteen Kevin Owens]]]], one of the arguably most deserving men on the roster.
* Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: In light of ''[=WrestleMania=] 33'', I've removed my previous Streak-related entry. Brock Lesnar's match may have been an AntiClimax, but at least he was still a WorthyOpponent for The Undertaker... unlike Roman Reigns, the #1 {{Scrappy}} in wrestling today. 'Taker seemingly retired at 23-2, and Reigns was once again forced upon an absolutely disgusted crowd. And Vince [=McMahon=] wonders why so many people [[DudeNotFunny wish that he'd just die already]] so that the company can finally get new leadership.
* {{Tropers/BlahaIsAFraud}}: Survivor Series 2008. John Cena comes back from injury and immediately buries Chris Jericho, a horrible WWE title match between HHH and VLADIMIR KOSLOV of all people, and an abysmal casket match.
* Giant Leviathan: Sami Zayn's FaceHeelTurn. I have one word to perfectly summarise why turning Sami Zayn Heel was a colossally stupid decision: R-Evolution. The entire point of that storyline, was that Sami Zayn was tempted to turn Heel after months and months of getting screwed over, but ultimately chose not to. And the thing is, he did show an edge, he did show character (Probably more character than anyone on the main roster has right now), and he did it all while making the conscious choice to stay Babyface. But now we're saying that that moment no longer matters. This pivotal moment in Sami Zayn's character may as well have never happened. [[SarcasmMode Great, well done]] [=WWE=]. This is as idiotic as Batman suddenly gunning down families in alleyways, or Spiderman deciding he doesn't need to bother stopping criminals, or [[TakeThat Captain America joining Hydra]]. You're going against one of the most important moments in their character development (And in Sami Zayn's case, the very thing that made him stand out as a unique character) for the sake of a shock moment, and his reasoning is moronic too. "[[InsaneTrollLogic After being severely injured, I now realise that my worst enemy is totally correct and I will now change my life's philosophy to agree with him!]]" [[SarcasmMode Gee... I never realised it was so easy! I think tonight I'll go stab some Westburo Baptist Church members. Because as we all know, violently assaulting someone is the best way to get them to agree with your worldview.]] Also, this makes no sense for Kevin Owens either. This is the guy who is the most paranoid man on the planet. [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder The guy who turned on Chris Jericho because he felt so uncomfortable with someone being so close to him]]. There is no way Kevin Owens would be so accepting of this. If the writers had any consideration for character consistency whatsoever, Kevin should be going: "What's your angle? You think I owe you something? Don't try to pull that "I just wanted to help" shit on me!" Because an act of such loyalty would make Kevin Owen deeply uncomfortable. [[HeelRealization Since it reminds him of how much of a treacherous scumbag he is]]. But no. Fuck nuance. Fuck character depth and consistency. We need a random shock moment because the [=WWE=] doesn't know how to write characters. So here's the real story as far as I'm concerned:Sami Zayn died on a hospital bed due to a crushed throat. The guy who came to save Kevin Owens is his identical cousin Mami Sane. And I'm done. The two characters that brought me back into the WWE, into wrestling, were Bray Wyatt and Sami Zayn. Now one of them is a rambling idiot who is about as worthless as slime mold.And the other one is dead.Fuck you WWE.
* Tropers/ZeoSpark16: I would love to rip into this one but a huge Dethroning Moment for me was Jinder Mahal's WWE title run. Let me first say that Jinder Mahal as a jobber for three years. Three freaking years! And, all of a sudden, when he gets moved to Smackdown via the Shakeup, he is suddenly World Champion material. Let me point out during that time, Mahal didn't even have a good finisher and suddenly he is just given the world title. Mahal is definitely one of the worst WWE Champions in a long time because [[FlatCharacter his personality was so bland and too much of a generic heel]]. His moveset sucked, his theme song is annoying, and he is overall not WWE champion material. WWE only did this because they were doing a tour in India and they wanted Mahal to feel like a "hero" to them because he's holding the WWE title to represent them. Well, there was one problem with that. Mahal is not Indian! He's Canadian! And you know what else? [[DidntThinkThisThrough Everyone knew he wasn't Indian]] so having a major title on a mediocre wrestler such as him was entirely pointless! It was a good thing WWE nixed the idea of having Mahal win back the title from AJ Styles or we would've stayed with a boring champion for an even longer time. I still can't believe he ran with the title for around 6 months. I nearly stopped watching Smackdown if it wasn't for the good rivalry between Kevin Owens and AJ Styles over the US title.
** AjWargo: I couldn't agree with you more. Jinder had absolutly no reason to be champion. I'll add another good reason- his previous history prior to winning the belt was full of losses, both in singles matches and as part of the band of jobbers known as 3MB. I actually slogged through the equally disastrous reign of the Authority hoping maybe, maybe the company would recover. But after Jinder retained his belt against Randy Orton at Money in the Bank, I gave up on watching wrestling. I usually only watch moments where something is smashed or destroyed now.
* Tropers/RedTheHedgehog: My original Dethroning Moment had to do with Wrestling/{{Bayley}}, and the way Wrestling/{{WWE}} was booking her compared to how she was booked in Wrestling/{{WWENXT}}. But my new Dethroning Moment was WrestleMania 34. While [[Wrestling/WrestleMania WrestleMania 34]] was not a bad show by any means, in fact, it had a lot of great moments that NEARLY made me forget about these negatives, said negatives nearly made me [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere rage quit the show and the company all together]]. First thing was during the Women's Battle Royal. What I thought was gonna be a beam of hope in Bayley's career, was ruined because Naomi wasn't officially eliminated. Now, I don't mind Naomi at all, but they decided to tease the Bayley marks first, and piss them off on Purpose. That didn't piss me off as much as the other 2 things that happened though. The second thing that made me mad and the first thing that made me said "Fuck WWE" was Wrestling/{{Charlotte}} beating [[Wrestling/KanakoUrai Asuka]]'s [[PunctuatedForEmphasis 2. year. long. undefeated. streak.]] In what was a weak finish that made Asuka look weak. [[AtomicFBomb Fuck]] You WWE. Taking one of the top [[ Wrestling/{{WWENXT}} NXT]] women's stars that had a great gimmick and an amazing winning streak that even surpassed Wrestling/{{Goldberg}}'s streak, gets lowkey buried by a lady that gets all the accolades for her namesake! Luckily, I forgave it after the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments Heartwarming Moment]] of Asuka humbling out and showing respect to Charlotte. But, the worst of the worst was [[Wrestling/BrockLesnar Brock "Piece of shit Part-Timer" Lesnar]] walking out in the main event with the Universal Championship once again. After the crap he pulled over the build to Mania(No-Showing events, skipping out on FastLane to take selfies with Dana White, etc.), I actually gained sympathy for Wrestling/RomanReigns, which I hated ever since he beat Wrestling/JohnCena at No Mercy that past year. After a [[SoOkayItsAverage boring but alright]] main event, Brock walks away with the title again, and is most likely he's gonna keep that title for another year. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Fuck. You. WWE.]]
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* [=GetterKaizer=]: I don't think I have to explain the FingerPokeOfDoom. Or David Arquette winning the Wrestling/{{WCW}} Heavyweight Title in a Tag Team Match.
** [=tsstevens=]: Wait, let's not overlook the night that killed WCW. There was the Wrestling/{{Goldberg}} angle where he was portrayed as a stalker (originally a rapist,) the Wrestling/HulkHogan and Wrestling/KevinNash "match" above or the ResetButton being used on the NWO angle to make them a GodModeSue. However if fans could point to one moment in the night it would be this: Wrestling/MickFoley was going to win the WWF Championship on Raw, which was pre taped. Eric Bischoff saw fit to spoil this and then had Tony Schiavonie insult Foley by saying, [[SarcasmMode "Wow, that'll put the butts in the seats, hyeh."]] Half a million WCW fans jumped ship that night, and just over two years later the company died, by insulting someone the fans held in high regard.
* Tork: How 'bout Wrestling/VinceRusso winning the belt? The InsaneTrollLogic of Arquette as champ doesn't even apply to Russo winning the title. It had no possible avenue to draw money (nobody liked him and he had no matches to where he could get beaten up) and cheapened the status of the already hurting WCW title. On top of that, Wrestling/BookerT (the champ Vinnie get the belt from) won it back almost immediately, making the whole angle entirely pointless aside from the fact that Russo can now put "former WCW Champion" on his resume.
* SNL95: To put how little the WCW title meant after these aforementioned incidents; after Wrestling/{{Goldberg}} lost the title it changed hands 32 TIMES in two years with the longest reign being 3 months. Some title reigns didn't even last a week and David Arquette and Wrestling/VinceRusso were among the champions. Hell, Wrestling/ChrisBenoit willingly giving up the title is a testament to how meaningless the title had become under Wrestling/VinceRusso's booking.
* dictatorsaurus: June of 1991 - Jim Herd fires Wrestling/RicFlair, who was Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA World Heavyweight Champion at the time. Not only did the firing destroy the plans for the Great American Bash, which had Wrestling/LexLuger finally defeating Flair for the title, but it nearly killed the NWA World Title itself. Speaking of the Great American Bash, not only did it end up as one of the worst PPV shows of all time, but it ended with Lex Luger vs. Wrestling/BarryWindham in a steel cage match for the vacant title. What could make that even worse? Luger would win the title, and then immediately turn heel, siding with Harley Race. As big of a DMoS as it was, there was a silver lining later in the year: Wrestling/RickRude's debut as the WCW Phantom (and the centerpiece of the Dangerous Alliance) at Halloween Havoc. The formation of the Dangerous Alliance sparked a critical renaissance in WCW.
* Tropers/RetsofNoraa: "Oklahoma", a parody of WWE commentator Wrestling/JimRoss, complete with a tasteless mockery of Ross's drooping face as a result of Bell's Palsy. The invention of this character sparked a seething hatred in Wrestling/JimCornette toward Ed Ferrara, who portrayed the character, and even Ferrara has come to admit that the idea was horrible and should never have been done.
* Tropers/DrZulu2010: If David Arquette winning the title was the final nail in WCW's coffin and the Fingerpoke of Doom was the moment that killed WCW, the main event at Starrcade 97 might be where the disease that slowly killed WCW was caught. To put it simply, if there was a wrestler who was extremely over back in 1997, it was ''Wrestling/{{Sting}}''. The storyline where he observes the NWO and ''Wrestling/HulkHogan'' was masterful with one year to build the same way WWE were doing it with the Mega Powers exploding. So, clearly they couldn't screw it up, right? Well, there is a good reason why there is no WCW network. Hogan was wailing on Sting with the latter giving no offence until the pin where the refree Nick Patrick doing a fast count. Or at least, that was the plan since Nick did a normal three count. And then, out of nowhere, Bret Hart comes up and restart the match to make sure they won't repeat a screwjob like in Montreal. In the end, Sting wins but that also makes him weak since he didn't win clean to Hogan, it makes Bret like a sore loser because he can't let Hogan win even though the ending was botched and it makes Hogan into an invincible villain where the fans are starting to get tired of Hogan and the NWO's schtick. WCW has the perfect opportunity to deliver the final blow to the WWE in the Monday Night War and they blew it. We can blame Sting's poor physical form and personnal demons, Hogan's creative control or Bischoff's lack of foresight but it gave the WWE enough time to build up the Attitude Era, leading to Mankind's victory against The Rock for the World Heavyweight Championship the night WCW did the infamous fingerpoke. And the rest, as they say, is history.
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* [=Lionheart0=]: Victory Road 2011 saw Wrestling/JeffHardy coming out to the ring intoxicated. Keep in mind, this was the main event of the match and Jeff Hardy was the champion of the company. Considering Jeff's past poor track record, this is as much as a Dethroning Moment from the company since they put so much faith in Jeff in the first place.
* [=SNL95=]: The whole Wrestling/{{TNA}} World Heavyweight Title drama leading up to, during and after Bound For Glory 2011 is one massive DMOS for the company. First some background, in the lead up to Bound For Glory (read 5 months before hand) TNA started doing a "Bound For Glory Series" which was a round robin style tournament where the winner would get a TNA title shot at Bound for Glory. The series itself was a mess, nobody understood the points system, it was continued through house shows leaving many viewers hopelessly confused about the standings which would change on a whim. Points were won through the most ridiculous means and Crimson, the guy who was at the top of the series, was injured forcing TNA to give [[Wrestling/BobbyRoode Robert Roode]] the series victory. Despite this fans were happy for Roode and after he wins he gets a huge buildup going into Bound For Glory making people sure he would beat Wrestling/KurtAngle for the title. However Roode loses the match in a screwjob finish which was a blatant ripoff of the Summerslam 2011 ending (Angle pinned Roode while Roode was touching the ropes) and despite the fact that Kurt injured his hamstring and could barely wrestle a match. It was later revealed that Hulk Hogan, who buried Roode in a shoot interview before the show, got the match result changed because he felt Roode wasn't ready to hold the title. So already Hulk blatantly screws over young talent because of his own opinion, not the opinion of the fans who were almost completely behind Roode to make his face turn the highlight of the show instead of Roode's victory. Then on the next Impact taping Wrestling/JamesStorm, Roode's tag team partner, squashes Angle for the belt despite having no buildup and there being no reason for his victory other than the fact that Hogan wanted it. The question here is: Why didn't TNA build up Storm in the first place? Fans were pissed because there was literally nothing stopping them from building up Storm over Roode. Instead TNA wasted months of storyline, screwed over a young talent before he got his chance, created a contrived {{authors saving throw}} that pissed off several TNA "fans" and showed how terrible their bookers actually are. Good job TNA, good fucking job.
* TheNotoriousAMP It gets even worse, my friend, during the next tapings they have Roode wrestle Storm where he ends up turning heel by hitting storm with a beer bottle. Which he follows by spitting on storm and then standing on him, declaring that he felt great after having betrayed his "brother" of 4 years. Note, this would not be a bad storyline if played out over a series of months, but it was so compressed it just sucked the potential out of it.
* koopakoop: Anything in which Garett Bischoff appears. Especially when he beat Kurt Angle, of all people.
* SuperSauce: The [[Wrestling/AJStyles A.J.]]-Claire Lynch story that long outstayed its welcome. I would've preferred he had an affair with Dixie instead of this. [[spoiler: The entire thing being a set-up]] almost made the pain worth it, though.
* Shadow200: TNA's inability to get things right and learn from their mistakes make things go from bad to worse. Everytime it looks like they are turning the corner you just have to count to three to watch them do something stupid. And yet they continue to do so again and again, whether it's idiotic storylines, depushing and firing over talent that people like cause it's not who Dixie likes. Wasting millions of Dollars on so called celebrities (Jenna Morasca, Johnny Fairplay, The Mutants from Jersey Shore) while talent has to live off of food stamps. No wonder so many people have been turned off from them and never bothering to watch them again. I'm one of them.
* AyaReiko: Having [[Creator/SpikeTV Spike]] opt to not renew the television contract for ''Impact!'', full stop. TNA would eventually find a new home on Destination America, a network only available to slightly more than half of Spike's audience. These days, getting over 500K viewers is thought of as a reason to celebrate, it was a mere three years ago that the show used to get 1.7 million viewers to watch it.
* homiedclown: The beginning of the end was two things: 1) the 35-second "world title match" between Sting and Hardy, and 2) combining Fortune and Immortal. They should have been two rivals groups fighting each other instead of being a "group" of 15 wrestlers. Raven said it best on ''Talk is Jericho''. How, with the talent roster being that deep, do you only get ratings of 1-2? His answer is, well, you have the have the worst booking committee in the world to do that. And they did it.
* [=KingLyger=]: "Hardy vs. Hardy: The Final Deletion" has been said to be SoBadItsGood by half of the people who watch it, and SoBadItsHorrible by the other half. This troper personally feels the latter category is more justified. Beyond just using Wrestling/JeffHardy and Wrestling/MattHardy to recreate spots that were way past their prime, the editing was so bad that it was impossible to follow along. The SpecialEffectsFailure of using holograms from drones just looked flat-out ridiculous, even by the standards of professional wrestling. There are so many {{Ass Pull}}s, {{Shocking Swerve}}s, and random costume changes that the match simply had no basis in reality anymore. The flat-out {{Narm}} of lines like "it's a dilapidated boat!" killed the credibility even further. Also, as CrazyAwesome as Matt Hardy's character is supposed to be, his constant bleating of "Brother Nero!" quickly became the MostAnnoyingSound of the whole video. Finally, the audio quality was just terrible, with noticeable popping and scratching every time either wrestler hits the mat. It's already being called "''Film/TheRoom'' of pro wrestling matches," and it's not hard to see why. It has this troper convinced that TNA won't live to see 2017.
* Tropers/~{{tsstevens}}: Dixie Carter, outside of her role as the CorruptCorporateExecutive so this was real, a shoot, addressed the, "Fire [[Wrestling/VinceRusso Russo]]" chants when asked about hiring him. Her threat to fire someone else if it happens again was all the evidence needed if there wasn't before that Carter's attitude was very much, "[[PrecisionFStrike Fuck]] the fans, we don't care."

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* dictatorsaurus: [[Wrestling/SethRollins Tyler Black]] vs. Wrestling/NigelMcGuinness from Injustice 2. Don't get me wrong; the match was tremendous. However, the booking of the finish is what supplies the moment. Not only was there a draw where the timekeeper messed up and called it after 45 minutes (instead of the usual hour), there was no on-screen payoff to the timekeeper's mishap. Plus, this finish essentially killed Wrestling/{{R|ingOfHonor}}OH's New Jersey market until 2012.[[note]]{ROH ran two more shows in New Jersey in 2009, but both were far from the marquee cards New Jersey once had. They were set to return to Edison in April 2010, but they outright cancelled the show due to a poor advance (likewise, the show from Boston the night prior was only postponed until September). To put the drop in perspective, the New Jersey market witnessed the CM Punk World Title win and heel turn, the ROH debuts of Naomichi Marufuji and [[Wrestling/KentaKobayashi KENTA]], Homicide's [[HeelFaceTurn face turn]], Wrestling/SamoaJoe vs. Bryan Danielson during Danielson's World Title reign (KENTA vs. Davey Richards was on that same card that night), and Nigel [=McGuinness's=] World Title victory. When 2009 rolled along, New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, and Toronto easily lapped Edison, NJ as one of ROH's major markets. They would return to Rahway, NJ for Killer Instinct in October 2012, which ironically enough, included another main event finish that has broken the base.}[[/note]]
* Grattiano: Supercard of Honor VII: Jay Briscoe starts mounting a comeback against Wrestling/KevinSteen in the main event for the world title when members of S.C.U.M. begin to storm the ring. The ROH locker room empties as a brawl erupts on the outside with even Veda Scott getting involved when...iPPV issues result in the feed becoming frozen resulting in most viewers missing out on Jay Briscoe dethroning Kevin Steen and becoming the ROH champion. To make matters worse, up until this pivotal moment it looked like ROH had FINALLY solved the iPPV streaming issues that had been plaguing ROH for months prior. While the actual dethroning wasn't a moment of suck, the streaming problem completely ruined the flow of the match for those who were watching at home.
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* Tropers/{{JIKTV}}: Wrestling/ShawnMichaels' "I Lost My Smile" speech from the February 13, 1997 ''Wrestling/WWERaw'', Thursday [=Raw=] Thursday. After regaining the [[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wwe/wwe-h.html WWE Championship]] from [[Wrestling/SidEudy Sycho Sid]] a month earlier at the ''Wrestling/RoyalRumble'', and facing the prospect of dropping the belt back to Wrestling/BretHart at ''Wrestling/{{WrestleMania}} XIII'', in return for Bret having done so for Shawn a year earlier, Shawn takes the coward's way out and forfeits the belt with a bogus excuse. All because he didn't want to do the job and he missed his [[Wrestling/TheKliq three asshole friends]] who were [[Wrestling/NewWorldOrder stinking up the joint in]] Wrestling/{{WCW}}. Despite this, Shawn would remain employed, go on to win the [[http://wrestling-titles.com/wwe/wwe-world-t.html WWE World Tag Team Titles]] in the summer with Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin (which he would vacate, of course), [[Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob win the title for a third and final time]], and eventually go on to be inducted into the [=WWE=] Hall of Fame in 2011 as if this and all his other moments of political bullshit had never happened.
** SaiyanWarrior006: You're only delving into a small part of it. Shawn at that time was argubaly the biggest prick in the Wrestling world with how he acted. Threatening to leave or no show if things didn't go his way. Refusing to put wrestlers over (If he did lose it was by DQ or countout) and a whole lot of other things including throwing a tantrum backstage and demanding he wins The European title at a show in Britain against British Bulldog (despite Wrestling/{{Davey Boy|Smith}} having it in his contract he'd never lose in his home country.) and afterwards gloating and dedicating the win to Bulldog's sister in the front row who had cancer and shortly died afterwards. Shawn would do nothing with it and drop it to his buddy Triple H making it all pointless. If it wasn't for the fact he was one of their bigger stars and it was a difficult time as they needed all the stars and marketable people they could get, his ass would've been fired long ago for the stunts he pulled.
* Blueranger: Wrestling/{{Melina}} vs Wrestling/AliciaFox at ''Wrestling/{{Summerslam}} 2010''. Whether or not you liked Alicia as champion, the way Melina completely buried her in that match is inexcusable. Melina can't help how she's booked (winning the match) but she can help the way she wrestles. Alicia was only able to get basic offence in that match and looked incredibly weak. Things got worse in their rematch for the title - Alicia got no offence in whatsoever. For three minutes all Melina did was beat the crap non stop out of Alicia, burying her once again. These days Alicia is being used as a jobber while Melina got a push of her own and is still being booked strongly.
* Rickysayshi: ''Survivor Series 2006'', Wrestling/{{Lita}}'s farewell from WWE. Who honestly thought this up? After years of dedication she gets sent away by having Cryme Tyme give a "Ho Sale" and sell her "belongings" that include her panties, tampons and a dildo. And you want to know the kicker? Before the segment starts you can see a security guy confiscating a "Thank You Lita" sign from a group of people in the crowd.
** Tropers/tsstevens: I would second this and by rights this should probably be considered worse because of the disrespect shown to Amy Dumas as a person rather than the character she played. However for a moment put this shameful act in context of Lita being a slut heel, that was the villain she was. What brought this on to a degree was the Wrestling/{{Kane}} angle where she is kidnapped and raped. Think about that for a moment: they try and sell a character by using rape. RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil is very much a RealLife trope. It deserves to be treated as being that heinous for real. If the WWE wanted to market Kane or Glenn Jacobs again this would be a major issue, or should have been, instead the whole idea seemed to have been forgotten or buried. To make it worse this seems to be a bout of punishment against Amy Dumas with other incidents such as male abuse and humiliation, all for saying that recreating the kiss she had with Wrestling/MattHardy would ruin the magic. And to make things even worse they had an angle with Gene Snitsky where he caused Lita to have a miscarriage of a baby she did not want in the first place and run with this angle for years. In the words of Wrestling/JimCornette who has spoken out against such ideas, fuck this company!
* L3XJam3s: The Straight Edge Society. First off, it started off simple enough. It was CM Punk and Luke Gallows saving random indie wrestlers in the audience, and shaving their heads to get a "New Start". After a fantastic feud with Wrestling/{{Rey Mysterio|JR}}, the company didn't care that they were the hottest act in the company, and paired them Wrestling/TheBigShow as a rival. What happened next was the subsequent burial of all the talents. Joey Mercury joined for no reason, Serena was gone from the group from ''Raw 900'' and [[{{ChuckCunninghamSyndrome}} never got mentioned again]], and Luke Gallows turned Face for a while, and then he was released. And Punk? He became a color commentator on Raw for 3 months. But Big Show... [[{{CurbStompBattle}} He was busy killing Wade Barrett's new stable, and would do so to the New Nexus, only this time with Kane]].
* gurudyne: [[Series/JerseyShore Snooki]] debuting in Wrestlemania 27. Wrestlemania, as in the crown jewel of WWE's [=PPV=]s, the event that exists as a hallmark of each participating wrestler's career. Sure, it's never been completely free of gimmicks or special guests, but I honestly can't remember someone less deserving of screentime at Wrestlemania, let alone a match. Wrestling/BryanDanielson was bumped off the card for Snooki's match. To make matters worse, this reeks of something TNA would pull.
*** SNL95: While on the topic of ''[=WrestleMania=] 27'' let's add the Corre being squashed in 90 seconds at Wrestlemania. Already having a squash match in a Pay-Per-View is horrible but it gets worse due to the fact that Wade Barret was the Intercontinental Champion and Wrestling/HeathSlater and Wrestling/JustinGabriel were the Tag Team Champions leading to both titles losing most if not all of their prestige. It's especially bad that there was a rematch the next Friday on Smackdown that actually let them come out strong which begs the question why they didn't use the Smackdown match for Wrestlemania and if there was any point to them being squashed.
* Lionheart0: Wrestling/BookerT vs Triple H at Wrestlemania 19 for the World Heavyweight Championship. Up until this point, Booker T is crazy over, the crowd is rooting for him and it looks like he'll finally win the big one. The entire build up has Triple H verbally burying Booker, insulting his skills, and saying [[UnfortunateImplications a person like him]] could never be WHC. Come Wrestlemania 19 you fully expect Booker to finally win the match right? Right? No dice. Booker T gives Triple H everything he's got, but Trips win after a single Pedigree. So not only did Triple H get to verbally bury Booker T, [[KarmaHoudini he ended being proven right at that.]]
* The_Reptile_: This one needs a bit of explaining. After the 2011 Draft, Wrestling/RandyOrton was put onto Smackdown, the apparent plan there to make him the top guy there, much like Wrestling/JohnCena was on RAW. To do this, they needed to put the belt on him as soon as possible. Okay, fair enough. The problem is that fan favorite Wrestling/{{Christian}} got the belt to keep it on Smackdown after Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio got drafted onto RAW. Now, its been well documented that not just Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, but pretty much the entire booking committee behind WWE don't think too highly of Christian as a Main Event player, no matter what fans may say to the contrary. So how do they get the belt off of Christian? Have him keep it until Over the Limit, which is only about two weeks away? Nope! They have him lose it on the Smackdown afterwards to Randy Orton!
** Voidekat: To make things even clearer, that long awaited title that Christian truly deserved? His first ever one? The one that made everybody happy? The heartwarming moment? All scrapped in less than two days.
*** Gravityman: Christian did win the title back a little while later, but unfortunately they apparently decided that Christian isn't allowed to look competent or anything. To put the belt on him, they put them in a match were if Orton gets disqualified, Christian gets the belt. The match then ends with... Orton randomly kicking Christian in the junk, a move so bizarrely out of character that it comes off as nothing but incredibly forced.
* Jables6: Wrestling/JohnCena and Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio failed to stop CM Punk from escaping MITB with the championship. In response, Vince holds a tournament of eight superstars, and none of them is Cena. Wrestling/ReyMysterioJr and Wrestling/TheMiz enter the finals, but their match is postponed by Vince, who wanted to fire Cena in front of the entire WWE universe. Cue HHH. He walks in, not only to stop Vince from firing Cena, but to fire Vince as well, with HHH taking his place. Fast forward one week. Mysterio beats the Miz to obtain not only the first post-[=McMahon=] championship, but his first WWE Championship. Now all that's left is to see how long it will be before Del Rio cashes in his MITB. Then, Triple H pulls what many sports analysts call a 'dick move' and forces Mysterio to defend his title against none other than John Cena in the same night. in less than two hours, Mysterio lost his championship, and not even Wrestling/CMPunk walking out with the real belt around his waist to his old indy theme, Cult Of Personality, blaring through the speakers could end the fan rage felt that night.
* Tropers/KilgoreTrout: I took a break from WWE starting in 2003. There was stuff on the show that made me uncomfortable, such as the infamous Katie Vick stuff, and a sketch involving the Hurricane and Rosey where Rosey tried to rescue a cat from a tree as part of his superhero training and ended up killing it, but I kept watching...until the Iraq War began and Vince [=McMahon=] decided to crank the PatrioticFervor UpToEleven. I distinctly remember Wrestling/JimRoss talking about how great it was that the U.S. was invading that country, taking time out of a pay-per-view to do it no less. And then came the [[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/classic40.html debate between Scott Steiner and Christopher Nowinski]]. Which, as I recall, was preceded a week earlier by Nowinski walking out with a mic to talk about how wrong it was for the U.S. to invade Iraq, prompting [[Wrestling/ScottSteiner Steiner]] to run out and kick his ass on behalf of all "true Americans". And then came "La Resistance", who were heels because they were from France, which had objected to the invasion you see. There was only so long I could continue to watch a show that kept on villifying people with my beliefs and creating [[StrawCharacter Strawman Political]] heels for the baby{{face}}s to destroy. I really felt like Vince's message was "If you're not behind UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush 100%, then you also deserve an asskicking like Nowinski's getting and like La Resistance are getting."
** Tropers/PresidentAlBundy: At least it gave us the classic "I wrestled a lot of countries" line.
* Goldeneye101: I'd say the Wrestling/CMPunk / Cena Feud after Money In the Bank 2011. Not only did the aforementioned tournament happen, but at the actual match, Kevin Nash attacks Punk after he wins and Alberto Del Rio wins the title by cashing in the Money in the Bank. Cena gets pissy because him and Punk work their asses off to end in THAT. There then is a No. 1 contender matchup, where Nash interferes again by distracting Punk. Cena, completely contradicting his actions last week, capitalizes on it to win.
* clownishchimp: The whole Triple H as the COO angle. Before that the angle was about Wrestling/CMPunk shooting on Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and WWE, taking shots at their behind the scenes activities and their attempt at a PG public image. As a result Vince suspended him and decided to give someone else a shot at the title until John Cena confronted him and demanded that Punk get his shot or he would walk out. Vince agrees but says if [[YouHaveFailedMe Cena fails to beat Punk, he is fired]]. So Punk gets his shot, and despite Vince's attempts at another Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, Punk wins and escapes with the title. At this point WWE is getting a ton of praise over the angle and people can't wait to see what happens next. The following night they hold a tournament to crown a new WWE Champion, while Cena is about to be fired by Vince, making people wonder if Vince would actually do it or not. Then the angle goes downhill when Triple H shows up completely out of the blue and announces that the Board of Directors has relieved Vince of his duties (even though Wrestling/VinceMcMahon is the majority owner of the company [[note]]However, according to RealLife business laws, while the majority shareholder does get the final say most of the time, the Board and/or the other shareholders can still file a legal injunction against his actual voting power if they feel that his actions just endanger the overall company too much -- which was presumably what ({{Kayfabe}}) happened here.[[/note]]) and that he is the new COO. There's also the fact that this is Wrestling/VinceMcMahon the man whose been running WWE since the 80's and brought wrestling to the mainstream and boom periods such as the Rock N Wrestling and [[Wrestling/AttitudeEra Attitude Eras]], and who has played the BigBad of WWE programming since the Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, and yet he's just kicked out of his own company out of nowhere and dropped and forgotten about like a bad date, just to stop him from firing Cena. It gets worse when Cena simply gets the title back the next week and Punk shows up right after he wins it. This has lead to an extremely confusing angle in which HHH and Punk are feuding, yet neither wants to do a FaceHeelTurn, making it hard for the fans to figure out who to root for. Then at Summerslam Punk beats Cena to be undisputed WWE champion, but is then attacked by Wrestling/KevinNash so that Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio, a heel whom WWE had pushed to the moon despite his lack of overness with the fans, can become the new champion. So Cena is now busy feuding with Del Rio for the title, while the angle turns into a three-way feud between Punk, HHH, and Nash(who is the one playing the heel), two of them being semi-retired from in-ring competition. There's a whole mystery over who sent the text to Nash, but he then reveals he sent it to himself, so HHH fires him. HHH and Punk finally face each other at Night of Champions, which has interference from Wrestling/TheMiz, [[Wrestling/RonKillings R-Truth]], and Nash, and HHH winds up winning the match, thus burying Punk. He then fires Miz and R-Truth and makes a Triple Threat match for HIAC between Punk, Cena (who beat Del Rio cleanly to win the title), and Del rio for the title. It ends with Del Rio winning the title despite just losing it weeks ago when Miz and R-Truth attack Punk. This incident leads to the entire roster becoming threatened by an "unsafe workplace"(yeah, they are afraid of the [[SmugSnake MIZ]] of all people), and pretty much everyone on the roster walks out since they do not have confidence in Triple H and want him to step down. Yes, almost the entire roster pulls a FaceHeelTurn because they do not support HHH, whom is being portrayed as the sympathetic face of the storyline. And there's no end in sight for this angle. To make things even worse, they are playing up [[YesMan John Laurinitis]] as the [[TheManBehindTheMan the person, or one of the people, behind the conspiracy]], meaning that potentially the angles payoff of this whole storyline is a semi-retired Wrestling/TripleH fighting one of his [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon father-in-law's]] former stooges for control over WWE. Alternatively it could also lead to yet another feud between Wrestling/TripleH and his wife Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon for control over their father/father-in-law's company. What would make the latter potentially worse is that it may extend to Wrestlemania 28, in which the Wrestlemania ten years earlier saw the last feud between HHH and Stephanie, which was terrible and the match that the feud was building up to, HHH vs Wrestling/ChrisJericho, [[EpicFail somehow got to be the final match on the card over]] [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] vs [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hollywood Hulk Hogan]], one of the biggest matches of all time. And Wrestlemania 28 has Rock vs Cena as the schedule main event. [[FridgeHorror Which means WWE could be repeating history by booking HHH and Stephanie's marriage problems over one of the biggest, most anticiopate matches of all time.]] So basically it looks like this whole thing is just to make HHH [[CreatorsPet the center]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of attention]] once again. And as big as this rant is, it still probably doesn't fully cover how bad this is, but I will leave that to anyone else who has something to say about it.
** ryu238: I was alright with the whole angle up until Kevin Nash opened his mouth on the Raw after [=SummerSlam=]. (Though they really should've held off longer on CM Punk's return till at least after [=SummerSlam=]) The whole angle died right there and then despite the WWE's attempts to revive it with Miz and R-Truth. And then it died again once Nash said [[ShockingSwerve he sent the text.]] How does that make sense? And while the vote of no confidence angle was compelling, FridgeLogic took some of the excitement away, and then WWE screwed that up by making the angle null and void, and shit, by resolving it the next week by having everybody just come back in because Trips was replaced by Laurenitis. And Wrestling/VinceMcMahon, who we really never expected to see again, announced it by interrupting a exciting match. EpicFall doesn't begin to describe how badly the whole thing was handled.
** TnAdct1: Oh god, the "vote of confidence" segment is pretty much one of the worst segments ever written for a WWE program, as there's so many problems in that bit that I'm likely going to miss one of them. First, the whole reason for this "vote of confidence" has to do with the talent feeling unsafe due to recent run-ins by recently "fired" wrestlers The Miz and R-Truth. In other words, they are complaining about stuff that's the norm in any wrestling league. That's like saying that hockey players feeling that their sport is unsafe due to the amount of body checking in their games. Second, outside of a referee and Wrestling/JerryLawler (who himself provides another problem in that he votes "no confidence" despite the fact that he clearly points out that this is not Triple H's fault, but rather someone conspiring to overthrow him), everyone who spoke against Triple H were heel wrestlers. Making things worse, among those complaining are [[{{Hypocrite}} Wade Barrett (whose actions during the initial Nexus attack the previous year were far worse than what Miz and R Truth did), Mark Henry (who is booked as a vicious monster heel and had attacked Lawler two weeks prior), and Beth Pheonix (who feels that these run-ins may result in the Divas getting harmed, despite the fact that she's a monster heel Diva and one of only two females to ever wrestled in a Royal Rumble match)]]. In other words, it's [[StrawHypocrite hypocrisy]] at its worst. Third, WWE bookers purposely had all the top faces (John Cena, CM Punk) not take part in this bit, as they didn't want them to receive heat during the walk-out at the end. Hence, rather than have Cena come out and obviously call out all the bull that's been going on here (and hopefully encourage the faces and non-wrestling staff to give a vote of confidence), it turns into basically a thing to make Triple H feel sympathetic to the fans. Finally, [[SpotlightStealingSquad this whole event]] took prominence over actually getting things ready for Vengeance, resulting in two PPV's in a row in which there's only two weeks to have the Raw portion of the card built up before the event.
* OnSoaringWings: 11-22-11 Wrestling/DanielBryan cashes in Money in the Bank against a knocked out Mark Henry, and wins the World Heavyweight Title only for Theodore Long to come out and declare that since Henry was unable to compete the title change was null and void. I'm sorry doesn't that completely fly in the face of almost every single money in the bank cash in ever!? NegativeContinuity should not be used to justify screwing a face over, especially an EnsembleDarkHorse like Bryan
** FusengerShadow: Worse yet, Michael Cole was annoying enough insulting Daniel Bryan before he was champ. Cue Bryan winning the WHC. Does the insulting stop or even diminish any? It sure doesn't! You do not have your featured commentator bury one of your champs! It's like WWE is going out their way to deliberately sabotage Bryan's run at the top. However, Cole has transitioned into being a full Bryan supporter now, as a heel commentator should be. It just took two months longer than it should.
* Tropers/DasNordlicht91: At ''Wrestling/WrestleMania XXVIII'', Daniel Bryan vs. Wrestling/{{Sheamus}} for the World Heavyweight Championship opened the show. You would expect a back-and-forth and hard-fought match to get the crowd going for what could be one of the best Wrestlemania events in recent memory, right? [[spoiler:Nope. Sheamus squashes Bryan in 18 seconds flat with one Brogue Kick to become the new WHC. I mean, wow. You've got two guys who were bumped off [=WM27=] the year prior in a big title match, and it ends in eighteen fucking seconds. Wow.]]
* Tropers/Renelia: Going back in time, it has to be The Invasion and what went wrong. It was supposed to be the biggest angle in (then) [[Wrestling/{{WWE}} WWF]] history. Now, I understand that some of the wrestlers they couldn't get a hold of because of contractual issues. The main problem was that it had a lot of potential and it ended up [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot utterly wasted]] because of unknown reasons. What causes this to be even worse: the wrestlers that were "too expensive", with the exception of Sting, ended up wrestling in the WWF/WWE in the (then) near-future! However, what made this a real wall banger: The so-called WWF vs. WCW battle royal match in November 2001...the last two wrestlers were from the WWF during the Attitude Era. It may have been a deliberate plot for WWF to screw over what was left of WCW, but the entire angle was poorly planned and it's no wonder why it's remembered as one of the [[Horrible/{{WWE}} worst angles in WWE history.]]
** Tropers/CynicalBastardo: And, of course, Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin suddenly turning heel (again) and joining WCW because "they appreciate him." Anyone who knows Austin's career and how he badly was treated in his WCW run, essentially began moving their heads in the direction of the nearest wall.
* [=KantonKage=]: John Cena vs Wrestling/DamienSandow. Sandow first practically destroys Cena's injured arm and cashed in his Money In the Bank and still loses and is buried in the process. Their second encounter, Sandow is treated like chopped liver, [[JobberEntrance meaning no televised entrance]], Cena get introduces first despite coming out last and Sandow doesn't get introduced at all.
* [=O-Zone=]: So does anyone remember when WWE introduced the Anonymous Raw General Manager back in 2010? Where they were represented by a computer (evidently complete with [=GLaDOS=] voice during one night). And then after about a year of putting up with it, the company decided just to do away with it all together without even revealing whoever it was? Yea...well, you know how WWE has been bringing back past General Managers to run both Raw and SD!? Guess who was back on July 9th 2012 Raw? yep, the computer, complete with Michael Cole reading the emails and all. Oh but wait, there's more! At one point, King and Cole were arguing later that night and Cole accidentally throws a drink in King's face, which lead to the GM booking a Wrestlemania rematch between the two...so yea we get a rehash of that match, like we really needed it...Booker and Josh come out to commentate it and after Cole tries to escape before hand, Booker throws him in the ring, and Jerry Lawler pins him in about 10 seconds....but then, the GM reverses the decision because Booker interfered (as in simply throwing Cole back in the ring, how is that considered interference?) and declares Cole the winner ([[HereWeGoAgain Yes, just like at Mania]]). But wait! Here comes the [[SarcasmMode "Best"]] part of all! Wrestling/SantinoMarella, who has been doing detective work (complete with Sherlock Holmes hat) throughout the night to try and find out who the Raw GM is, comes out and declares that he's "solved the case" or something like that; he determines that the Raw GM is under the ring (and you base this on what?) cue the annoying "ding" and the email says there is no one under the ring...of course Santino goes under and...it's, ready for this, [[spoiler:Hornswoggle (yes, the Little Bastard/Illegitimate Child of Vince [=McMahon=]....The Anonymous Raw GM, introduced about 2 years ago, then just disappeared, is finally revealed to be hornswoggle all along...]] Remind me again, why do people think TNA is the worst company?
* Cynical Bastardo: Wrestlemania IX. Yokuzuna beats Wrestling/BretHart and is shown to be an unstoppable monster heel. That is, until Wrestling/HulkHogan comes down and challenges Yoko for the title and beats him in no time at all. Further still, Hogan didn't defend the title again until Wrestling/KingOfTheRing (and refused to job to Bret).
** Tropers/{{Krendall}}: To make things worse, the original plan was for Hogan to have one more run with the title and then drop the belt to Hart in a "passing the torch" moment at Kin of the Ring or Summer Slam. Hogan then decided to take a three-month vacation immediately after Wrestling/WrestleMania (not even making TV appearances), pissing off management so much that they demand he drop the belt at [=KotR=] and leave the company. Even then Hogan refused to put Bret Hart over, only agreeing to drop the belt back to Wrestling/{{Yokozuna}}.
* Armando Payne: 2013 Royal Rumble. Punk V Rock. Rock winning with 2 fucking moves. It's like David Arquette being the WCW champion all over again.
* Smapti: At Summerslam 2013, Daniel Bryan faced John Cena for the WWE championship. Going into this feud, Bryan was massively over, to the point that Cena actually ended up working as a heel during the nearly half-hour-long wrestling clinic of a match that ensued. In the end, Bryan pinned Cena and won the match, being one of the few people to ever score a clean title victory over Cena, and the crowd went wild. You'd think that would be Bryan's crowning moment of awesome, wouldn't you? Bryan's reign lasted three minutes. No sooner had his celebration finished than guest referee Triple H gave him a Pedigree which instantly knocked him unconscious (despite his taking much worse punishment from Cena during the match itself), allowing Randy Orton to come out, cash in his Money in the Bank contract, and pin Bryan in the shortest world championship match in WWF/E history (breaking the 8-second record set by Wrestling/BobBacklund and Diesel in 1994) to win the championship and set up Orton, HHH, Vince [=McMahon=], and (for some reason) Wrestling/TheShield as a rehash of the Corporation stable from the Attitude Era. It becomes even worse when you consider that the entire reason HHH had inserted himself as guest referee in the first place was to prevent Vince from having a crooked referee fix the match against Bryan. The entire audience wanted to see Bryan become champion, and instead he got squashed and buried, completely ruining what could have been the defining moment of his career, in order to reboot an angle from fifteen years prior.

* [=ChrisDV=]: The WWE's inability to develop new stars, and constantly relying on Cena & Orton. With the Attitude Era stars finally retiring, the WWE has a severe lack of star power & has become increasingly reliant on Cena & Orton. Even though they have pushed some superstars to the main event - such as CM Punk, the Miz & Daniel Bryan - the only one you can argue is truly still a main eventer is Punk, with the likes of Miz & Bryan being immediately shoved back down to midcard status after their world title feuds have finished, and that's largely because of how long Punk was champion & that he went from the WWE champion to a feud with the Undertaker. If Orton & Cena both suffered lengthy injuries between now & [=WrestleMania=], the WWE would be forced to rely on mid-carders & part-timers for their biggest show of the year. And part of the problem is that when someone (Like Zack Ryder, Wrestling/DolphZiggler or Daniel Bryan) gets over on their own, the WWE take it upon themselves to give them a moment in the spotlight before throwing them back down to an even worse spot on the card than before, seemingly because they didn't choose that superstar to be pushed.
* [=HeavyMetalSnail=]: Batista winning the 2014 Royal Rumble. There are so many reasons why this sucks. First, Batista had not worked with the company since 2010 and has only been back for around a month, making it absurd that he were to win something so big after being with the company for such a short amount of time. Second, he won the rumble by eliminating young Roman Reigns after Reigns broke Kane's elimination record in a rather effortless and anticlimactic fashion, completely derailing the momentum that he built up in the match. Third, the match was stacked with several people who had not only worked for the company longer, had not won the rumble before, and have shown themselves to be far greater talent than Batista (CM Punk, Antonio Cesaro, The Shield, The Wyatt Family, Big E Langston, and Dolph Ziggler being the most notable examples). Fourth, Batista is guaranteed a title match at Wrestlemania over several more over wrestlers, including the beloved Daniel Bryan (who was not even in the match), signifying that WWE would rather have a match featuring a 45 year old has-been rather than one of their more popular, younger, and better wrestlers who would actually benefit from a rumble win and a world title match. This finish was so bad, that it seems like WWE was trying to piss off their fans and alienate their viewers. It is proof positive that WWE hates their fans and does not want to listen to them. Why else would they not push any of the wrestlers that the fans actually like? It was an abysmal finish that shows that WWE wants to keep rehashing the same old shit instead of actually trying to run a wrestling company properly. This is the kind of garbage that you expect from WCW.
** [=KiraBlaize=]: Batista made his return six days earlier. He stated he was going to take Randy's title before the segment was over. What makes it worse is how PREDICTABLE this was. Once CM Punk was eliminated (By KANE, who was eliminated earlier no less) and the crowd realized that Bryan would NOT be in the rumble, they turned on EVERYONE. The rage was so great that after Batista won (adding the the rage I might add) he was so pissed at the crowd that he flipped them off. Mind you, Dave is FACE here.
** [=GX Next=]: Looking at it from a booking perspective was a real crap moment. Look at the Legends panel; the COO's hero growing up and his bestie. Who wins the tag titles? COO's Wrestling/DgenerationX stablemates the New Age Outlaws, a {{tag team}} with a combined age of 94. Who is still the WWEWHC? COO's Evolution stablemate. Who is the surprise legend entrant into the Royal Rumble? Kevin Nash, not Diesel as he had been a mere three years prior, Kevin Nash. Finally who is the winner of the Rumble? COO's other Evolution stablemate. Any one or two of these would have been okay and honestly Shawn Michaels and Ric Flair on the legends panel was more than justified, but all of that together makes me think this should have been called Kliq-a-mania than rather than the Royal Rumble.
* Tropers/{{Totaldramawwe}}: One of the things I didn't like about Wrestling/WrestleMania XXX (don't get me wrong, I like it) was when John Cena beat Wrestling/BrayWyatt with the AA. My problem is not because he defeated Bray, but because this was the time where Cena could have developed his character with the whole storyline he and Bray had been through the past few weeks and what became of it? Nothing, just nothing. Luckily for the Wyatts, they beat John with Sheamus and Big E on the day after the event, but it was still a waste of a good plot and some great character development for John.
** Tropers/[Zerombr]: Agreed, and even more so was this stupid 'will Cena give in to......evil?' shtick. Where the REF was the one telling him that 'he's better than this'. And Cena panicking so atrociously. It was horrific. Bray says "I know how to beat you now" and....nothing comes of it, nothing at all. Just horrible use of my man, Bray Wyatt, in a match that goes absolutely nowhere.
* ColeYote: Back in time a couple years, John Cena vs The Miz I Quit match at Over The Limit 2011. Match was a half-hour 2-on-1 beatdown of John Cena which "ended" with a rehash of the Rock/Mankind recorded "I quit" dirty finish. Except the referee decided to be smart for once, checked it out and restarted the match. John Cena then no-sells half an hour of injuries and literally wins with four moves, one of which was ducking a title belt to the head and another of which was a bit of pants belt whipping (which, as a masochist, I can say is hardly crippling). I cannot overstate the absurdity of it. I mean, I am not exaggerating when I say it was half an hour of The Miz beating on John Cena only for John to completely forget about it as soon as the match was restarted.
* WWE Raw - 8/25/2014: After he got absolutely demolished by Wrestling/BrockLesnar at Wrestling/SummerSlam, we were supposed to hear from what should've been a "walking wounded" John Cena and his crazy reasoning for why he wants to rematch Brock right away at Night of Champions. Instead we get a do-nothing "Hall of Famers" conference with Hulk Hogan kissing up to Cena, Cena comes out, selling absolutely nothing from his beatdown by Lesnar other than "Oh, I got my ass kicked" and instead of the same impassioned promo we heard from him before Summer Slam, just flatly says he's going to beat Brock Lesnar's ass, doing absolutely nothing to sell his destruction at Summer Slam or even sell the rematch at NOC, which we can only hope is not WWE's cheap way of popping the belt back on Cena to tie Flair's world title record and take even further refuge under their ever thinning security blanket that is John Cena.
* falcon2484: For me, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JODV1xJNlrU the introduction of the Gobbledy Gooker at Survivor Series 1990]] came very close to destroying all my enthusiasm for wrestling. Was Vince [=McMahon=] on drugs?
* Tropers/TotzthePlaid: For me, it's not a stupid character or plot twist that comes to mind as the WWE's D.M.o.S. (though there are many that are mind-numbingly bad), but rather a brain-dead moment where the very rules of a match were completely forgotten by every single person involved. All five wrestlers (John Cena, Wrestling/DeanAmbrose, Randy Orton, Kane and Wrestling/SethRollins), the referee, and all three commentators (JBL, Michael Cole, and Jerry Lawler) completely forgot that a Street Fight is basically a no-holds-barred-all-weapons-allowed-free-for-all brawl, not a handicap tag-team match. This lasted for at least ten minutes of tagging in and out, everyone staying in the ring, the referee breaking up holds and counting on "illegal" actions, with everyone acting like it was normal. The WWE's had many moronic things happen since I started watching, but the main event of the October 20, 2014 Raw is the only time I rage-quit a match so far. (I've read that it broke out into chaos later in the overrun, but that's what the match stipulation promised from the start, not well-ordered idiocy.)
* Zepkhan: Survivor Series 2014... the match was going alright, Wrestling/DolphZiggler was kicking out at 2 for everything but apart from that it was ok. Then Wrestling/TheBigShow took out Wrestling/JohnCena leaving Ziggler in a 1 on 3. [[UnderdogsNeverLose You could basically predict the rest from there.]] Ziggler eliminated Wrestling/LukeHarper by [[NoSell no-selling]] [[UpToEleven a powerbomb]] and Kane. Then Wrestling/TripleH took matters into his own hands by stopping 2 pins on Rollins and bringing in Scott Armstrong FTW? Nope. [[Wrestling/{{Sting}} Some relic from an angle cancelled a long time ago]] comes in for his debut as Armstrong's on 2 and Armstrong completely [[ForgotAboutHisPowers forgets how to count]]... to cap this off, the crowd not only approves but cheers.
* Tropers/saltyoven: The 2015 Royal Rumble was already a terrible PPV with only the triple threat championship match standing out as a good match, but the big dethroning moment occured at the actual royal rumble. After Daniel Bryan was eliminated, people realized quickly that Roman Reigns was going to win it. Okay this is going to need bullet points on why this was a terrible idea from the get go. 1. This would mean that Wrestlemania 31 will only be Roman Reigns 2nd singles match in a PPV and he's already in a match for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship, it makes Brock Lesnar Look like a complete and utter chump with his push to being the champion. 2. After Daniel Bryan was eliminated, people still kept chanting for him and were booing every other entrant afterwards. 3. Towards the end of the match, there were "We want Wrestling/{{Rusev|AndLana}}!" Chants. Yes, people would rather see an anti-american Heel win than the babyface. 4. By sheer location at which the royal rumble was held: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. To give an idea, that is pretty much smark HQ. And because everyone was booing there, casual fans will buy into the booing and dislike the result as well. This also has the potential to be filed under the DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible page because after that night, within 24 hours WWE Network lost 300,000 subscribers, the #1 trending Hashtag on Twitter was [=#CancelWWENetwork=], and they lost subs so quickly, [[DemandOverload the website actually crashed]] trying to keep up with the cancellations.
* NazirulTakashi: Okay. As a long time WWE fan, I've endured a lot of stupid things that I could easily put on this page. But I'm not going to put them easily due to the fact that I could only pit one stupid thing on this page only. But after the 23/2/2015 edition of RAW, I've finally found something to be written here. In that show there's a Divas Match between Wrestling/{{Emma}} and Wrestling/{{Paige}} against the Wrestling/BellaTwins. What makes me to put that match as a DMOS? The way WWE treated the match of course! First of all, Paige makes her entrance before going to the Commercials and showing a Sting promo. In other words, Paige is in that ring for 10 minutes while those things are happening (while at that time, Emma does a JobberEntrance). Then the match starts... which instantly ended in 30 seconds with the Bellas winning the match. So let me get this straight? WWE RAW is 3 hours and yet they can only give the Divas 30 seconds worth of screen time? The way the Divas Division were handled were pretty insulting towards the fans of said Division to the point that [=#GiveDivasAChance=] were trending No 1 on Twitter, hoping that the Division improves someday! If that doesn't change the WWE's view in handling the Divas Division, I don't know what will.
* Gravityman: The entire Wrestling/RomanReigns push has been pretty bad, so there are a lot of things that could be added. His Royal Rumble win was really awful, but it was actually topped later. For the new Fastlane PPV, WWE made it look like they were throwing the audience a bone by booking Reigns to defend his title shot against Daniel Bryan, who never really lost his title. Everything is fine with that, the match itself was pretty good, and then Reigns went over, despite what the crowd wanted. This in itself isn't horrible, but on the Raw the night afterward, WWE had Bryan cut a promo where he put Reigns over, and by "put over" I mean he all but got on his knees and begged his fans to like Reigns (many likened it to "verbal fellatio"). It seemed more than anything like Bryan himself was simply giving up and accepting whatever WWE was going to give him. The entire thing was a pretty clear message from WWE that what the fans actually want doesn't matter at all and many fans completely gave up on the company after this whole thing.
* Tropers/SomeoneElse17: I have been around for a ''lot of shit''. In over 16 years as a wrestling fan, and even having watched further back than when I started, I have seen asinine booking decisions, start/stop pushes, horribly-executed fails, and more. Many of the moments listed on this page, I've seen and I totally agree. In fact, until now, I was on the page simply backing up one of these with a followup based on it that sucked. However, none have made me so thoroughly done with a character despite my utmost respect for the performer than what the 9/28/2015 ''RAW'' did to Wrestling/{{Kane}}. After several cringeworthy backstage segments between Kane, Wrestling/SethRollins, and a [[OneShotCharacter Human Resources director named Ashley]] who was "evaluating" Kane's ability to remain Director of Operations after an "anonymous complaint" came in, we were treated to a long and tedious in-ring promo about her "report" that far overstayed its welcome. The whole thing [[IncompetenceInc made a total mockery of WWE's HR department and managerial structure]], making one wonder how these people manage to run a near-billion-dollar company all the time. But that wasn't the worst yet to come. When Seth finally confronted Kane in the ring after Ashley ''somehow'' judged '''[[AxCrazy K]][[PlayingWithFire A]][[ImplacableMan N]][[UnnecessaryRoughness E]]''' to be sane, kind, and professional enough to remain Director of Operations, Seth attacked Kane with an awkward Pedigree and then proceeded to beat on his leg with a chair, re-breaking his ankle and sending him back into an ambulance. But then the ambulance stopped on a dime, red weed smoke could be seen flashing from it, and [[SplitPersonality Corporate Kane became Demon Kane]], first hobbling out of the ambulance, then suddenly popping the leg back to normal with a stomp, making a beeline with flames towards Rollins, and ''no-selling chair attacks to the leg''. 18 years in the company being Mr. Hellfire and Brimstone[[note]]as Kane; Jacobs has been wrestling overall 23 years[[/note]], hundreds of losses, several times out with injury, ''the reason he's after Rollins is partly because of an injury Seth made worse on purpose which forced him out for months,'' [[note]]the other part being the months Seth spent being a dick to Kane beforehand,[[/note]] yet I'm supposed to believe '''NOW''' that he's got this outstanding supernatural HealingFactor complete with [[Anime/DragonBallZ Zenkai]]. There's AcceptableBreaksFromReality. There's CanonDiscontinuity. There's even the IdiotBall. And then there's such a level of story-booking incompetence that it will outright break my WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief by throwing out all rules and boundaries involved with an act. This is where we are right now with Kane. As much as I respect Glenn Jacobs, he needs to finally retire and move on to work backstage, because the character has officially crossed over into being completely stupid and unreliable.
* Nyame: ''Wrestling/SurvivorSeries 2015'': This PPV had a lot of stupid moments, but I'm just going to mention the main event to cut time. Okay, you're original world champion was injured and you're having a tournament to determine a new champion. You've got Wrestling/RomanReigns, the original number one contender, and Wrestling/DeanAmbrose, best friends and self-proclaimed "brothers" in opposite blocks of the tournament, making it blatantly obvious who's going to the finals (especially since Wrestling/SethRollins, the third of their number who betrayed them, was the champion who got injured). Predictable? Sure. But this was what the fans, including this troper, wanted, especially if they weren't going to get the Rolleigns match. Then comes the actual match. Which is nine minutes long. Nine minutes. ''For a '''world title match'''''. It's not like the performers lacked chemistry or intensity, and sure, they may have wrestled the semi-finals earlier in the night, but would it have killed them to be given five or so more minutes? And then there's after the match. Where Wrestling/{{Sheamus}}, a heel who has been booked into nigh-oblivion since he returned and has been regarded as irrelevant for ''years'' now, cashed in and won the title off of Wrestling/RomanReigns, in a blatant rehash of ''Wrestling/SummerSlam 2013'' two years before. Reports came in the next day that the only reason this happened is because Vince didn't want Reigns to be booed when he won, and it was booked hours before the show started. There were so many missed opportunities to do something new and exciting in this PPV, and they absolutely blew every single one of them. Just because they're so desperate to get their chosen guy over as the next Wrestling/JohnCena, they put the title on a guy that no one, not even the company itself, wanted on top. Just another event that proved that WWE doesn't give a damn about what their fans think and is more willing to overwear a long since outdated formula rather than do something spontaneous and new. It shouldn't have been surprising that the ratings for RAW the next night dropped to the lowest rating for a non-holiday episode in the last eighteen years.
* Jon Milne: One of the most distasteful things I have ever come across as a wrestling fan is the exploitation of real life deaths of people connected to wrestling for use in storyline angles, which namely tends to happen via the heel characters mocking the face characters about the death of said wrestling personality, but such efforts only tend to succeed in bringing really cheap heat from fans and smack of incredibly lazy and bad taste storytelling - Paige bringing up Reid Flair to Charlotte, and CM Punk bringing up Paul Bearer to the Undertaker being notable examples in recent years. But to me, the absolute nadir of this kind of thing was the "Eddie-sploitation" of 2006, in which the death of Eddie Guerrero was repeatedly utilised in truly disgusting storylines and angles, not least Randy Orton being scripted to tell Rey Mysterio that Eddie was "in hell", and that Rey had as much chance of beating Orton as Eddie had of coming back to life. Mark Henry would get in on the act, telling the Guerreros that he would spit on Eddie as well as the other family members if he was alive. And then Chavo and Vickie would be cast as the villains (yes, the ''villains'') in the feud they would have with Rey, and later Chris Benoit, and Eddie's name would keep on getting brought up despite fans very obviously hating that the WWE kept doing this. To understand how offensively bad this is, this is to date the only Gooker Award winning induction on Wrestlecrap to not contain any pictures or jokes, just straight up criticism about how truly full of bad taste this angle was.
* {{emmens}}: Wrestlemania 32 was bad and there are so many things I could call a dethroning moment of suck. The cheap use of legends, The Rock being in a "match" with Erick Rowan, the placement of the Undertaker vs Shane [=McMahon=] match where the fate of the wwe hung in the balance. but I think the truest dethroning moment of suck from all of this most recent Wrestlemania was from the night after. The opening ladder match ended in the best feel good moment of the year where Zack Ryder won his first Wresltemania match to become Intercontinental champion. this is significant due to how wwe has chosen to use Zack Ryder before this point (google it so this entry doesn't get too long.) and immediately on raw the next night Zack loses the championship, to The Miz, because his wife Maryse distracted Ryder. Absolutely disgusting.
* Tropers/DrZulu2010: I removed my original entry because, speaking of Undertaker vs Shane O' Mac, in the end, the Hell In A Cell match between them was that because of how moot the whole thing was. Shane, despite losing, still has control of Raw and the Undertaker may have wrestled his final match (or at least, his final non-wrestlemania match) while giving Shane a proverbial slap on the wrist. For something like that to happen on Wrestlemania, which is supposed to be similar to a season finale was a good sign of Vince's lack of long-term thinking.
* Tropers/{{chucknormie}}: For me, it was the push to the moon of [[Wrestling/FergalDevitt Finn Bálor]] following his official main roster debut in August 2016. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the man himself. I think Finn is one of the best athletes in the company as a whole, and definitely deserves to be at the top of the card for at least some of his career. What I don't get is how WWE screwed up such an easy angle to run. You'd think a likeable, charismatic guy like Finn would get the crowd on his side pretty easily after a few weeks and then get a push, right? Nope, WWE hotshotted him to winning their brand-new Universal Championship (still one of the worst names and belt designs I've ever seen, btw), right out of the gate when most of the casual fans were still scratching their heads over who exactly he was, or just cheering him because he wasn't Wrestling/RomanReigns. It doesn't help matters how management made Wrestling/SethRollins, his opponent, play the same cowardly chickenshit heel character the fans were tired of seeing against him, and how Finn continually made him look like a chump, and Finn saying he "earned" the opportunity when people like Wrestling/SamiZayn have been toiling in the lower midcard for more than a year is more than laughable. The "Demon King" was intimidating on NXT, but just plain cheesy on the main roster, and I feel like the "feud" was less of that and more of Vince or someone in management trying to throw the smarks a bone after realizing that they buy most of the merchandise nowadays, disregarding the fact that a bland, flat character pushed to the moon is exactly what the smarks don't want to see once the novelty wears off. Wrestling/{{WWENXT}}, while great, has one major flaw as seen in this case: it allows wrestlers to coast on their independent reputation with the smarky crowd and doesn't develop characters in many occurrences. In a strange way, Finn's injury may have helped out all the parties more in the long run: it created a comeback narrative that most fans can get behind for the man himself, allowed Rollins to finally complete his turn into the badass AntiHero we all wanted to see, and gave a title reign to [[spoiler:[[Wrestling/KevinSteen Kevin Owens]]]], one of the arguably most deserving men on the roster.
* Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: In light of ''[=WrestleMania=] 33'', I've removed my previous Streak-related entry. Brock Lesnar's match may have been an AntiClimax, but at least he was still a WorthyOpponent for The Undertaker... unlike Roman Reigns, the #1 {{Scrappy}} in wrestling today. 'Taker seemingly retired at 23-2, and Reigns was once again forced upon an absolutely disgusted crowd. And Vince [=McMahon=] wonders why so many people [[DudeNotFunny wish that he'd just die already]] so that the company can finally get new leadership.
* {{Tropers/BlahaIsAFraud}}: Survivor Series 2008. John Cena comes back from injury and immediately buries Chris Jericho, a horrible WWE title match between HHH and VLADIMIR KOSLOV of all people, and an abysmal casket match.
* Giant Leviathan: Sami Zayn's FaceHeelTurn. I have one word to perfectly summarise why turning Sami Zayn Heel was a colossally stupid decision: R-Evolution. The entire point of that storyline, was that Sami Zayn was tempted to turn Heel after months and months of getting screwed over, but ultimately chose not to. And the thing is, he did show an edge, he did show character (Probably more character than anyone on the main roster has right now), and he did it all while making the conscious choice to stay Babyface. But now we're saying that that moment no longer matters. This pivotal moment in Sami Zayn's character may as well have never happened. [[SarcasmMode Great, well done]] [=WWE=]. This is as idiotic as Batman suddenly gunning down families in alleyways, or Spiderman deciding he doesn't need to bother stopping criminals, or [[TakeThat Captain America joining Hydra]]. You're going against one of the most important moments in their character development (And in Sami Zayn's case, the very thing that made him stand out as a unique character) for the sake of a shock moment, and his reasoning is moronic too. "[[InsaneTrollLogic After being severely injured, I now realise that my worst enemy is totally correct and I will now change my life's philosophy to agree with him!]]" [[SarcasmMode Gee... I never realised it was so easy! I think tonight I'll go stab some Westburo Baptist Church members. Because as we all know, violently assaulting someone is the best way to get them to agree with your worldview.]] Also, this makes no sense for Kevin Owens either. This is the guy who is the most paranoid man on the planet. [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder The guy who turned on Chris Jericho because he felt so uncomfortable with someone being so close to him]]. There is no way Kevin Owens would be so accepting of this. If the writers had any consideration for character consistency whatsoever, Kevin should be going: "What's your angle? You think I owe you something? Don't try to pull that "I just wanted to help" shit on me!" Because an act of such loyalty would make Kevin Owen deeply uncomfortable. [[HeelRealization Since it reminds him of how much of a treacherous scumbag he is]]. But no. Fuck nuance. Fuck character depth and consistency. We need a random shock moment because the [=WWE=] doesn't know how to write characters. So here's the real story as far as I'm concerned:Sami Zayn died on a hospital bed due to a crushed throat. The guy who came to save Kevin Owens is his identical cousin Mami Sane. And I'm done. The two characters that brought me back into the WWE, into wrestling, were Bray Wyatt and Sami Zayn. Now one of them is a rambling idiot who is about as worthless as slime mold.And the other one is dead.Fuck you WWE.
* Tropers/ZeoSpark16: I would love to rip into this one but a huge Dethroning Moment for me was Jinder Mahal's WWE title run. Let me first say that Jinder Mahal as a jobber for three years. Three freaking years! And, all of a sudden, when he gets moved to Smackdown via the Shakeup, he is suddenly World Champion material. Let me point out during that time, Mahal didn't even have a good finisher and suddenly he is just given the world title. Mahal is definitely one of the worst WWE Champions in a long time because [[FlatCharacter his personality was so bland and too much of a generic heel]]. His moveset sucked, his theme song is annoying, and he is overall not WWE champion material. WWE only did this because they were doing a tour in India and they wanted Mahal to feel like a "hero" to them because he's holding the WWE title to represent them. Well, there was one problem with that. Mahal is not Indian! He's Canadian! And you know what else? [[DidntThinkThisThrough Everyone knew he wasn't Indian]] so having a major title on a mediocre wrestler such as him was entirely pointless! It was a good thing WWE nixed the idea of having Mahal win back the title from AJ Styles or we would've stayed with a boring champion for an even longer time. I still can't believe he ran with the title for around 6 months. I nearly stopped watching Smackdown if it wasn't for the good rivalry between Kevin Owens and AJ Styles over the US title.
** AjWargo: I couldn't agree with you more. Jinder had absolutly no reason to be champion. I'll add another good reason- his previous history prior to winning the belt was full of losses, both in singles matches and as part of the band of jobbers known as 3MB. I actually slogged through the equally disastrous reign of the Authority hoping maybe, maybe the company would recover. But after Jinder retained his belt against Randy Orton at Money in the Bank, I gave up on watching wrestling. I usually only watch moments where something is smashed or destroyed now.
* Tropers/RedTheHedgehog: My original Dethroning Moment had to do with Wrestling/{{Bayley}}, and the way Wrestling/{{WWE}} was booking her compared to how she was booked in Wrestling/{{WWENXT}}. But my new Dethroning Moment was WrestleMania 34. While [[Wrestling/WrestleMania WrestleMania 34]] was not a bad show by any means, in fact, it had a lot of great moments that NEARLY made me forget about these negatives, said negatives nearly made me [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere rage quit the show and the company all together]]. First thing was during the Women's Battle Royal. What I thought was gonna be a beam of hope in Bayley's career, was ruined because Naomi wasn't officially eliminated. Now, I don't mind Naomi at all, but they decided to tease the Bayley marks first, and piss them off on Purpose. That didn't piss me off as much as the other 2 things that happened though. The second thing that made me mad and the first thing that made me said "Fuck WWE" was Wrestling/{{Charlotte}} beating [[Wrestling/KanakoUrai Asuka]]'s [[PunctuatedForEmphasis 2. year. long. undefeated. streak.]] In what was a weak finish that made Asuka look weak. [[AtomicFBomb Fuck]] You WWE. Taking one of the top [[ Wrestling/{{WWENXT}} NXT]] women's stars that had a great gimmick and an amazing winning streak that even surpassed Wrestling/{{Goldberg}}'s streak, gets lowkey buried by a lady that gets all the accolades for her namesake! Luckily, I forgave it after the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments Heartwarming Moment]] of Asuka humbling out and showing respect to Charlotte. But, the worst of the worst was [[Wrestling/BrockLesnar Brock "Piece of shit Part-Timer" Lesnar]] walking out in the main event with the Universal Championship once again. After the crap he pulled over the build to Mania(No-Showing events, skipping out on FastLane to take selfies with Dana White, etc.), I actually gained sympathy for Wrestling/RomanReigns, which I hated ever since he beat Wrestling/JohnCena at No Mercy that past year. After a [[SoOkayItsAverage boring but alright]] main event, Brock walks away with the title again, and is most likely he's gonna keep that title for another year. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Fuck. You. WWE.]]
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* [=GetterKaizer=]: I don't think I have to explain the FingerPokeOfDoom. Or David Arquette winning the Wrestling/{{WCW}} Heavyweight Title in a Tag Team Match.
** [=tsstevens=]: Wait, let's not overlook the night that killed WCW. There was the Wrestling/{{Goldberg}} angle where he was portrayed as a stalker (originally a rapist,) the Wrestling/HulkHogan and Wrestling/KevinNash "match" above or the ResetButton being used on the NWO angle to make them a GodModeSue. However if fans could point to one moment in the night it would be this: Wrestling/MickFoley was going to win the WWF Championship on Raw, which was pre taped. Eric Bischoff saw fit to spoil this and then had Tony Schiavonie insult Foley by saying, [[SarcasmMode "Wow, that'll put the butts in the seats, hyeh."]] Half a million WCW fans jumped ship that night, and just over two years later the company died, by insulting someone the fans held in high regard.
* Tork: How 'bout Wrestling/VinceRusso winning the belt? The InsaneTrollLogic of Arquette as champ doesn't even apply to Russo winning the title. It had no possible avenue to draw money (nobody liked him and he had no matches to where he could get beaten up) and cheapened the status of the already hurting WCW title. On top of that, Wrestling/BookerT (the champ Vinnie get the belt from) won it back almost immediately, making the whole angle entirely pointless aside from the fact that Russo can now put "former WCW Champion" on his resume.
* SNL95: To put how little the WCW title meant after these aforementioned incidents; after Wrestling/{{Goldberg}} lost the title it changed hands 32 TIMES in two years with the longest reign being 3 months. Some title reigns didn't even last a week and David Arquette and Wrestling/VinceRusso were among the champions. Hell, Wrestling/ChrisBenoit willingly giving up the title is a testament to how meaningless the title had become under Wrestling/VinceRusso's booking.
* dictatorsaurus: June of 1991 - Jim Herd fires Wrestling/RicFlair, who was Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA World Heavyweight Champion at the time. Not only did the firing destroy the plans for the Great American Bash, which had Wrestling/LexLuger finally defeating Flair for the title, but it nearly killed the NWA World Title itself. Speaking of the Great American Bash, not only did it end up as one of the worst PPV shows of all time, but it ended with Lex Luger vs. Wrestling/BarryWindham in a steel cage match for the vacant title. What could make that even worse? Luger would win the title, and then immediately turn heel, siding with Harley Race. As big of a DMoS as it was, there was a silver lining later in the year: Wrestling/RickRude's debut as the WCW Phantom (and the centerpiece of the Dangerous Alliance) at Halloween Havoc. The formation of the Dangerous Alliance sparked a critical renaissance in WCW.
* Tropers/RetsofNoraa: "Oklahoma", a parody of WWE commentator Wrestling/JimRoss, complete with a tasteless mockery of Ross's drooping face as a result of Bell's Palsy. The invention of this character sparked a seething hatred in Wrestling/JimCornette toward Ed Ferrara, who portrayed the character, and even Ferrara has come to admit that the idea was horrible and should never have been done.
* Tropers/DrZulu2010: If David Arquette winning the title was the final nail in WCW's coffin and the Fingerpoke of Doom was the moment that killed WCW, the main event at Starrcade 97 might be where the disease that slowly killed WCW was caught. To put it simply, if there was a wrestler who was extremely over back in 1997, it was ''Wrestling/{{Sting}}''. The storyline where he observes the NWO and ''Wrestling/HulkHogan'' was masterful with one year to build the same way WWE were doing it with the Mega Powers exploding. So, clearly they couldn't screw it up, right? Well, there is a good reason why there is no WCW network. Hogan was wailing on Sting with the latter giving no offence until the pin where the refree Nick Patrick doing a fast count. Or at least, that was the plan since Nick did a normal three count. And then, out of nowhere, Bret Hart comes up and restart the match to make sure they won't repeat a screwjob like in Montreal. In the end, Sting wins but that also makes him weak since he didn't win clean to Hogan, it makes Bret like a sore loser because he can't let Hogan win even though the ending was botched and it makes Hogan into an invincible villain where the fans are starting to get tired of Hogan and the NWO's schtick. WCW has the perfect opportunity to deliver the final blow to the WWE in the Monday Night War and they blew it. We can blame Sting's poor physical form and personnal demons, Hogan's creative control or Bischoff's lack of foresight but it gave the WWE enough time to build up the Attitude Era, leading to Mankind's victory against The Rock for the World Heavyweight Championship the night WCW did the infamous fingerpoke. And the rest, as they say, is history.
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* [=Lionheart0=]: Victory Road 2011 saw Wrestling/JeffHardy coming out to the ring intoxicated. Keep in mind, this was the main event of the match and Jeff Hardy was the champion of the company. Considering Jeff's past poor track record, this is as much as a Dethroning Moment from the company since they put so much faith in Jeff in the first place.
* [=SNL95=]: The whole Wrestling/{{TNA}} World Heavyweight Title drama leading up to, during and after Bound For Glory 2011 is one massive DMOS for the company. First some background, in the lead up to Bound For Glory (read 5 months before hand) TNA started doing a "Bound For Glory Series" which was a round robin style tournament where the winner would get a TNA title shot at Bound for Glory. The series itself was a mess, nobody understood the points system, it was continued through house shows leaving many viewers hopelessly confused about the standings which would change on a whim. Points were won through the most ridiculous means and Crimson, the guy who was at the top of the series, was injured forcing TNA to give [[Wrestling/BobbyRoode Robert Roode]] the series victory. Despite this fans were happy for Roode and after he wins he gets a huge buildup going into Bound For Glory making people sure he would beat Wrestling/KurtAngle for the title. However Roode loses the match in a screwjob finish which was a blatant ripoff of the Summerslam 2011 ending (Angle pinned Roode while Roode was touching the ropes) and despite the fact that Kurt injured his hamstring and could barely wrestle a match. It was later revealed that Hulk Hogan, who buried Roode in a shoot interview before the show, got the match result changed because he felt Roode wasn't ready to hold the title. So already Hulk blatantly screws over young talent because of his own opinion, not the opinion of the fans who were almost completely behind Roode to make his face turn the highlight of the show instead of Roode's victory. Then on the next Impact taping Wrestling/JamesStorm, Roode's tag team partner, squashes Angle for the belt despite having no buildup and there being no reason for his victory other than the fact that Hogan wanted it. The question here is: Why didn't TNA build up Storm in the first place? Fans were pissed because there was literally nothing stopping them from building up Storm over Roode. Instead TNA wasted months of storyline, screwed over a young talent before he got his chance, created a contrived {{authors saving throw}} that pissed off several TNA "fans" and showed how terrible their bookers actually are. Good job TNA, good fucking job.
* TheNotoriousAMP It gets even worse, my friend, during the next tapings they have Roode wrestle Storm where he ends up turning heel by hitting storm with a beer bottle. Which he follows by spitting on storm and then standing on him, declaring that he felt great after having betrayed his "brother" of 4 years. Note, this would not be a bad storyline if played out over a series of months, but it was so compressed it just sucked the potential out of it.
* koopakoop: Anything in which Garett Bischoff appears. Especially when he beat Kurt Angle, of all people.
* SuperSauce: The [[Wrestling/AJStyles A.J.]]-Claire Lynch story that long outstayed its welcome. I would've preferred he had an affair with Dixie instead of this. [[spoiler: The entire thing being a set-up]] almost made the pain worth it, though.
* Shadow200: TNA's inability to get things right and learn from their mistakes make things go from bad to worse. Everytime it looks like they are turning the corner you just have to count to three to watch them do something stupid. And yet they continue to do so again and again, whether it's idiotic storylines, depushing and firing over talent that people like cause it's not who Dixie likes. Wasting millions of Dollars on so called celebrities (Jenna Morasca, Johnny Fairplay, The Mutants from Jersey Shore) while talent has to live off of food stamps. No wonder so many people have been turned off from them and never bothering to watch them again. I'm one of them.
* AyaReiko: Having [[Creator/SpikeTV Spike]] opt to not renew the television contract for ''Impact!'', full stop. TNA would eventually find a new home on Destination America, a network only available to slightly more than half of Spike's audience. These days, getting over 500K viewers is thought of as a reason to celebrate, it was a mere three years ago that the show used to get 1.7 million viewers to watch it.
* homiedclown: The beginning of the end was two things: 1) the 35-second "world title match" between Sting and Hardy, and 2) combining Fortune and Immortal. They should have been two rivals groups fighting each other instead of being a "group" of 15 wrestlers. Raven said it best on ''Talk is Jericho''. How, with the talent roster being that deep, do you only get ratings of 1-2? His answer is, well, you have the have the worst booking committee in the world to do that. And they did it.
* [=KingLyger=]: "Hardy vs. Hardy: The Final Deletion" has been said to be SoBadItsGood by half of the people who watch it, and SoBadItsHorrible by the other half. This troper personally feels the latter category is more justified. Beyond just using Wrestling/JeffHardy and Wrestling/MattHardy to recreate spots that were way past their prime, the editing was so bad that it was impossible to follow along. The SpecialEffectsFailure of using holograms from drones just looked flat-out ridiculous, even by the standards of professional wrestling. There are so many {{Ass Pull}}s, {{Shocking Swerve}}s, and random costume changes that the match simply had no basis in reality anymore. The flat-out {{Narm}} of lines like "it's a dilapidated boat!" killed the credibility even further. Also, as CrazyAwesome as Matt Hardy's character is supposed to be, his constant bleating of "Brother Nero!" quickly became the MostAnnoyingSound of the whole video. Finally, the audio quality was just terrible, with noticeable popping and scratching every time either wrestler hits the mat. It's already being called "''Film/TheRoom'' of pro wrestling matches," and it's not hard to see why. It has this troper convinced that TNA won't live to see 2017.
* Tropers/~{{tsstevens}}: Dixie Carter, outside of her role as the CorruptCorporateExecutive so this was real, a shoot, addressed the, "Fire [[Wrestling/VinceRusso Russo]]" chants when asked about hiring him. Her threat to fire someone else if it happens again was all the evidence needed if there wasn't before that Carter's attitude was very much, "[[PrecisionFStrike Fuck]] the fans, we don't care."

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* dictatorsaurus: [[Wrestling/SethRollins Tyler Black]] vs. Wrestling/NigelMcGuinness from Injustice 2. Don't get me wrong; the match was tremendous. However, the booking of the finish is what supplies the moment. Not only was there a draw where the timekeeper messed up and called it after 45 minutes (instead of the usual hour), there was no on-screen payoff to the timekeeper's mishap. Plus, this finish essentially killed Wrestling/{{R|ingOfHonor}}OH's New Jersey market until 2012.[[note]]{ROH ran two more shows in New Jersey in 2009, but both were far from the marquee cards New Jersey once had. They were set to return to Edison in April 2010, but they outright cancelled the show due to a poor advance (likewise, the show from Boston the night prior was only postponed until September). To put the drop in perspective, the New Jersey market witnessed the CM Punk World Title win and heel turn, the ROH debuts of Naomichi Marufuji and [[Wrestling/KentaKobayashi KENTA]], Homicide's [[HeelFaceTurn face turn]], Wrestling/SamoaJoe vs. Bryan Danielson during Danielson's World Title reign (KENTA vs. Davey Richards was on that same card that night), and Nigel [=McGuinness's=] World Title victory. When 2009 rolled along, New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, and Toronto easily lapped Edison, NJ as one of ROH's major markets. They would return to Rahway, NJ for Killer Instinct in October 2012, which ironically enough, included another main event finish that has broken the base.}[[/note]]
* Grattiano: Supercard of Honor VII: Jay Briscoe starts mounting a comeback against Wrestling/KevinSteen in the main event for the world title when members of S.C.U.M. begin to storm the ring. The ROH locker room empties as a brawl erupts on the outside with even Veda Scott getting involved when...iPPV issues result in the feed becoming frozen resulting in most viewers missing out on Jay Briscoe dethroning Kevin Steen and becoming the ROH champion. To make matters worse, up until this pivotal moment it looked like ROH had FINALLY solved the iPPV streaming issues that had been plaguing ROH for months prior. While the actual dethroning wasn't a moment of suck, the streaming problem completely ruined the flow of the match for those who were watching at home.
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* Tropers/RedTheHedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/{{WWE}} Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs (Especially Raw Wrestling/WWERaw) was the burial of Wrestling/{{Bayley}}. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/{{Charlotte}}, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from [[{{Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown}}]] and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[{{Fanservice}} Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[{{Pun}} Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.


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* Tropers/RedTheHedgehog: My original Dethroning Moment had to do with Wrestling/{{Bayley}}, and the way Wrestling/{{WWE}} was booking her compared to how she was booked in Wrestling/{{WWENXT}}. But my new Dethroning Moment was WrestleMania 34. While [[Wrestling/WrestleMania WrestleMania 34]] was not a bad show by any means, in fact, it had a lot of great moments that NEARLY made me forget about these negatives, said negatives nearly made me [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere rage quit the show and the company all together]]. First thing was during the Women's Battle Royal. What I thought was gonna be a beam of hope in Bayley's career, was ruined because Naomi wasn't officially eliminated. Now, I don't mind Naomi at all, but they decided to tease the Bayley marks first, and piss them off on Purpose. That didn't piss me off as much as the other 2 things that happened though. The second thing that made me mad and the first thing that made me said "Fuck WWE" was Wrestling/{{Charlotte}} beating [[Wrestling/KanakoUrai Asuka]]'s [[PunctuatedForEmphasis 2. year. long. undefeated. streak.]] In what was a weak finish that made Asuka look weak. [[AtomicFBomb Fuck]] You WWE. Taking one of the top [[ Wrestling/{{WWENXT}} NXT]] women's stars that had a great gimmick and an amazing winning streak that even surpassed Wrestling/{{Goldberg}}'s streak, gets lowkey buried by a lady that gets all the accolades for her namesake! Luckily, I forgave it after the [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments Heartwarming Moment]] of Asuka humbling out and showing respect to Charlotte. But, the worst of the worst was [[Wrestling/BrockLesnar Brock "Piece of shit Part-Timer" Lesnar]] walking out in the main event with the Universal Championship once again. After the crap he pulled over the build to Mania(No-Showing events, skipping out on FastLane to take selfies with Dana White, etc.), I actually gained sympathy for Wrestling/RomanReigns, which I hated ever since he beat Wrestling/JohnCena at No Mercy that past year. After a [[SoOkayItsAverage boring but alright]] main event, Brock walks away with the title again, and is most likely he's gonna keep that title for another year. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Fuck. You. WWE.]]
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** Tropers/[Zerombr]: Agreed, and even more so was this stupid 'will Cena give in to......evil?' shtick. Where the REF was the one telling him that 'he's better than this'. And Cena panicking so atrociously. It was horrific. Bray says "I know how to beat you now" and....nothing comes of it, nothing at all. Just horrible use of my man, Bray Wyatt, in a match that goes absolutely nowhere.
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* Tropers/DrZulu2010: If David Arquette winning the title was the final nail in WCW's coffin and the Fingerpoke of Doom was the moment that killed WCW, the main event at Starrcade 97 might be where the disease that slowly killed WCW was caught. To put it simply, if there was a wrestler who was extremely over back in 1997, it was ''Wrestling/{{Sting}}''. The storyline where he observes the NWO and ''Wrestling/HulkHogan'' was masterful with one year to build the same way WWE were doing it with the Mega Powers exploding. So, clearly they couldn't screw it up, right? Well, there is a good reason why there is no WCW network. Hogan was wailing on Sting with the latter giving no offence until the pin where the refree Nick Patrick doing a fast count. Or at least, that was the plan since Nick did a normal three count. And then, out of nowhere, Bret Hart comes up and restart the match to make sure they won't repeat a screwjob like in Montreal. In the end, Sting wins but that also makes him weak since he didn't win clean to Hogan, it makes Bret like a sore loser because he can't let Hogan win even though the ending was botched and it makes Hogan into an invincible villain where the fans are starting to get tired of Hogan and the NWO's schtick. WCW has the perfect opportunity to deliver the final blow to the WWE in the Monday Night War and they blew it. We can blame Sting's poor physical form and personnal demons, Hogan's creative control or Bischoff's lack of foresight but it gave the WWE enough time to build up the Attitude Era, leading to Mankind's victory against The Rock the night WCW did the infamous fingerpoke.

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* Tropers/DrZulu2010: If David Arquette winning the title was the final nail in WCW's coffin and the Fingerpoke of Doom was the moment that killed WCW, the main event at Starrcade 97 might be where the disease that slowly killed WCW was caught. To put it simply, if there was a wrestler who was extremely over back in 1997, it was ''Wrestling/{{Sting}}''. The storyline where he observes the NWO and ''Wrestling/HulkHogan'' was masterful with one year to build the same way WWE were doing it with the Mega Powers exploding. So, clearly they couldn't screw it up, right? Well, there is a good reason why there is no WCW network. Hogan was wailing on Sting with the latter giving no offence until the pin where the refree Nick Patrick doing a fast count. Or at least, that was the plan since Nick did a normal three count. And then, out of nowhere, Bret Hart comes up and restart the match to make sure they won't repeat a screwjob like in Montreal. In the end, Sting wins but that also makes him weak since he didn't win clean to Hogan, it makes Bret like a sore loser because he can't let Hogan win even though the ending was botched and it makes Hogan into an invincible villain where the fans are starting to get tired of Hogan and the NWO's schtick. WCW has the perfect opportunity to deliver the final blow to the WWE in the Monday Night War and they blew it. We can blame Sting's poor physical form and personnal demons, Hogan's creative control or Bischoff's lack of foresight but it gave the WWE enough time to build up the Attitude Era, leading to Mankind's victory against The Rock for the World Heavyweight Championship the night WCW did the infamous fingerpoke.fingerpoke. And the rest, as they say, is history.
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** AjWargo: I couldn't agree with you more. Jinder had absolutly no reason to be champion. I'll add another good reason- his previous history prior to winning the belt was full of losses, both in singles matches and as part of the band of jobbers known as 3MB. I actually slogged through the equally disastrous reign of the Authority hoping maybe, maybe the company would recover. But after Jinder retained his belt against Randy Orton at Money in the Bank, I gave up on watching wrestling. I usually only watch moments where something is smashed or destroyed now.
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** Tropers/CynicalBastardo: And, of course, StoneColdSteveAustin suddenly turning heel (again) and joining WCW because "they appreciate him." Anyone who knows Austin's career and how he badly was treated in his WCW run, essentially began moving their heads in the direction of the nearest wall.

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** Tropers/CynicalBastardo: And, of course, StoneColdSteveAustin Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin suddenly turning heel (again) and joining WCW because "they appreciate him." Anyone who knows Austin's career and how he badly was treated in his WCW run, essentially began moving their heads in the direction of the nearest wall.
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* Tropers/ZeoSpark16: I would love to rip into this one but a huge Dethroning Moment for me was Jinder Mahal's WWE title run. Let me first say that Jinder Mahal as a jobber for three years. Three freaking years! And, all of a sudden, when he gets moved to Smackdown via the Shakeup, he is suddenly World Champion material. Let me point out during that time, Mahal didn't even have a good finisher and suddenly he is just given the world title. Mahal is definitely one of the worst WWE Champions in a long time because [[FlatCharacter his personality was so bland and too much of a generic heel]]. His moveset sucked, his theme song is annoying, and he is overall not WWE champion material. WWE only did this because they were doing a tour in India and they wanted Mahal to feel like a "hero" to them because he's holding the WWE title to represent them. Well, there was one problem with that. Mahal is not Indian! He's Canadian! And you know what else? [[DidntThinkThisThrough Everyone knew he wasn't Indian]] so having a major title on a mediocre wrestler such as him was entirely pointless! It was a good thing WWE nixed the idea of having Mahal win back the title from AJ Styles or we would've stayed with a boring champion for an even longer time. I still can't believe he ran with the title for around 6 months. I nearly stopped watching Smackdown if it wasn't for the good rivalry between Kevin Owens and AJ Styles over the US title.
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* Tropers/DrZulu2010: If David Arquette winning the title was the nail in WCW's coffin and the Fingerpoke of Doom was the moment that killed WCW, the main event at Starrcade 97 might me where the disease who slowly killed WCW was caught. To put it simply, if there is a wrestler who is extremely over in 1997, it was ''Wrestling/{{Sting}}''. The storyline where he observes the NWO and ''Wrestling/HulkHogan'' was masterful with one year to build the same way WWE were doing it with the Mega Powers exploding. So, clearly they couldn't screw it up, right? Well, there is a good reason why there is no WCW network. Hogan was wailing on Sting with the latter giving no offence until the pin where the refree Nick Patrick doing a fast count. Or at least, that was the plan since Nick did a normal three count. And then, out of nowhere, Bret Hart comes up and restart the match to make sure they won't repeat a screwjob like in Montreal. In the end, Sting wins but that also makes him weak since he didn't win clean to Hogan, it makes Bret like a sore loser because he can't let Hogan win even though the ending was botched and it makes Hogan into an invincible villain where the fans are starting to get tired of Hogan and the NWO's schtick. WCW has the perfect opportunity to deliver the final blow to the WWE in the Monday Night War and they blew it. We can blame Sting's poor shape and personnal demons, Hogan's creative control or Bischoff's lack of foresight but it gave the WWE enough time to build up the Attitude Era, leading to Mankind's victory against The Rock the night WCW did the infamous fingerpoke.

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* Tropers/DrZulu2010: If David Arquette winning the title was the final nail in WCW's coffin and the Fingerpoke of Doom was the moment that killed WCW, the main event at Starrcade 97 might me be where the disease who that slowly killed WCW was caught. To put it simply, if there is was a wrestler who is was extremely over back in 1997, it was ''Wrestling/{{Sting}}''. The storyline where he observes the NWO and ''Wrestling/HulkHogan'' was masterful with one year to build the same way WWE were doing it with the Mega Powers exploding. So, clearly they couldn't screw it up, right? Well, there is a good reason why there is no WCW network. Hogan was wailing on Sting with the latter giving no offence until the pin where the refree Nick Patrick doing a fast count. Or at least, that was the plan since Nick did a normal three count. And then, out of nowhere, Bret Hart comes up and restart the match to make sure they won't repeat a screwjob like in Montreal. In the end, Sting wins but that also makes him weak since he didn't win clean to Hogan, it makes Bret like a sore loser because he can't let Hogan win even though the ending was botched and it makes Hogan into an invincible villain where the fans are starting to get tired of Hogan and the NWO's schtick. WCW has the perfect opportunity to deliver the final blow to the WWE in the Monday Night War and they blew it. We can blame Sting's poor shape physical form and personnal demons, Hogan's creative control or Bischoff's lack of foresight but it gave the WWE enough time to build up the Attitude Era, leading to Mankind's victory against The Rock the night WCW did the infamous fingerpoke.
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* Tropers/DrZulu2010: If David Arquette winning the title was the nail in WCW's coffin and the Fingerpoke of Doom was the moment that killed WCW, the main event at Starrcade 97 might me where the disease who slowly killed WCW was caught. To put it simply, if there is a wrestler who is extremely over in 1997, it was ''Wrestling/{{Sting}}''. The storyline where he observes the NWO and ''Wrestling/HulkHogan'' was masterful with one year to build the same way WWE were doing it with the Mega Powers exploding. So, clearly they couldn't screw it up, right? Well, there is a good reason why there is no WCW network. Hogan was wailing on Sting with the latter giving no offence until the pin where the refree Nick Patrick doing a fast count. Or at least, that was the plan since Nick did a normal three count. And then, out of nowhere, Bret Hart comes up and restart the match to make sure they won't repeat a screwjob like in Montreal. In the end, Sting wins but that also makes him weak since he didn't win clean to Hogan, it makes Bret like a sore loser because he can't let Hogan win even though the ending was botched and it makes Hogan into an invincible villain where the fans are starting to get tired of Hogan and the NWO's schtick. WCW has the perfect opportunity to deliver the final blow to the WWE in the Monday Night War and they blew it. We can blame Sting's poor shape and personnal demons, Hogan's creative control or Bischoff's lack of foresight but it gave the WWE enough time to build up the Attitude Era, leading to Mankind's victory against The Rock the night WCW did the infamous fingerpoke.
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* dictatorsaurus: June of 1991 - Jim Herd fires Wrestling/RicFlair, who was Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA World Heavyweight Champion at the time. Not only did the firing destroy the plans for the Great American Bash, which had Wrestling/LexLuger finally defeating Flair for the title, but it nearly killed the NWA World Title itself. Speaking of the Great American Bash, not only did it end up as one of the worst PPV shows of all time, but it ended with Lex Luger vs. Wrestling/BarryWindham in a steel cage match for the vacant title. What could make that even worse? Luger would win the title, and then immediately turn heel, siding with Harley Race. As big of a DMoS as it was, there was a silver lining later in the year: RickRude's debut as the WCW Phantom (and the centerpiece of the Dangerous Alliance) at Halloween Havoc. The formation of the Dangerous Alliance sparked a critical renaissance in WCW.

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* dictatorsaurus: June of 1991 - Jim Herd fires Wrestling/RicFlair, who was Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA World Heavyweight Champion at the time. Not only did the firing destroy the plans for the Great American Bash, which had Wrestling/LexLuger finally defeating Flair for the title, but it nearly killed the NWA World Title itself. Speaking of the Great American Bash, not only did it end up as one of the worst PPV shows of all time, but it ended with Lex Luger vs. Wrestling/BarryWindham in a steel cage match for the vacant title. What could make that even worse? Luger would win the title, and then immediately turn heel, siding with Harley Race. As big of a DMoS as it was, there was a silver lining later in the year: RickRude's Wrestling/RickRude's debut as the WCW Phantom (and the centerpiece of the Dangerous Alliance) at Halloween Havoc. The formation of the Dangerous Alliance sparked a critical renaissance in WCW.
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* Tropers/RedTheHedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/{{WWE}} Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs (Especially {{Raw Wrestling/WWERaw}}) was the burial of Wrestling/{{Bayley}}. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/{{Charlotte}}, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from {{Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown}} and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[{{Fanservice}} Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[{{Pun}} Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.

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* Tropers/RedTheHedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/{{WWE}} Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs (Especially {{Raw Wrestling/WWERaw}}) Raw Wrestling/WWERaw) was the burial of Wrestling/{{Bayley}}. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/{{Charlotte}}, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from {{Smackdown [[{{Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown}} Wrestling/WWESmackDown}}]] and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[{{Fanservice}} Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[{{Pun}} Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.
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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/{{WWE}} Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs (Especially W) was the burial of Wrestling/{{Bayley}}. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/{{Charlotte}}, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[{{Fanservice}} Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[{{Pun}} Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.

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* Red The Hedgehog: Tropers/RedTheHedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/{{WWE}} Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs (Especially W) {{Raw Wrestling/WWERaw}}) was the burial of Wrestling/{{Bayley}}. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/{{Charlotte}}, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from Smackdown {{Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown Wrestling/WWESmackDown}} and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[{{Fanservice}} Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[{{Pun}} Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.
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* clownishchimp: The whole Triple H as the COO angle. Before that the angle was about Wrestling/CMPunk shooting on Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and WWE, taking shots at their behind the scenes activities and their attempt at a PG public image. As a result Vince suspended him and decided to give someone else a shot at the title until John Cena confronted him and demanded that Punk get his shot or he would walk out. Vince agrees but says if [[YouHaveFailedMe Cena fails to beat Punk, he is fired]]. So Punk gets his shot, and despite Vince's attempts at another Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, Punk wins and escapes with the title. At this point WWE is getting a ton of praise over the angle and people can't wait to see what happens next. The following night they hold a tournament to crown a new WWE Champion, while Cena is about to be fired by Vince, making people wonder if Vince would actually do it or not. Then the angle goes downhill when Triple H shows up completely out of the blue and announces that the Board of Directors has relieved Vince of his duties (even though Wrestling/VinceMcMahon is the majority owner of the company [[note]]However, according to RealLife business laws, while the majority shareholder does get the final say most of the time, the Board and/or the other shareholders can still file a legal injunction against his actual voting power if they feel that his actions just endanger the overall company too much -- which was presumably what ({{Kayfabe}}) happened here.[[/note]]) and that he is the new COO. There's also the fact that this is Wrestling/VinceMcMahon the man whose been running WWE since the 80's and brought wrestling to the mainstream and boom periods such as the Rock N Wrestling and [[Wrestling/AttitudeEra Attitude Eras]], and who has played the BigBad of WWE programming since the MontrealScrewjob, and yet he's just kicked out of his own company out of nowhere and dropped and forgotten about like a bad date, just to stop him from firing Cena. It gets worse when Cena simply gets the title back the next week and Punk shows up right after he wins it. This has lead to an extremely confusing angle in which HHH and Punk are feuding, yet neither wants to do a FaceHeelTurn, making it hard for the fans to figure out who to root for. Then at Summerslam Punk beats Cena to be undisputed WWE champion, but is then attacked by Wrestling/KevinNash so that Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio, a heel whom WWE had pushed to the moon despite his lack of overness with the fans, can become the new champion. So Cena is now busy feuding with Del Rio for the title, while the angle turns into a three-way feud between Punk, HHH, and Nash(who is the one playing the heel), two of them being semi-retired from in-ring competition. There's a whole mystery over who sent the text to Nash, but he then reveals he sent it to himself, so HHH fires him. HHH and Punk finally face each other at Night of Champions, which has interference from Wrestling/TheMiz, [[Wrestling/RonKillings R-Truth]], and Nash, and HHH winds up winning the match, thus burying Punk. He then fires Miz and R-Truth and makes a Triple Threat match for HIAC between Punk, Cena (who beat Del Rio cleanly to win the title), and Del rio for the title. It ends with Del Rio winning the title despite just losing it weeks ago when Miz and R-Truth attack Punk. This incident leads to the entire roster becoming threatened by an "unsafe workplace"(yeah, they are afraid of the [[SmugSnake MIZ]] of all people), and pretty much everyone on the roster walks out since they do not have confidence in Triple H and want him to step down. Yes, almost the entire roster pulls a FaceHeelTurn because they do not support HHH, whom is being portrayed as the sympathetic face of the storyline. And there's no end in sight for this angle. To make things even worse, they are playing up [[YesMan John Laurinitis]] as the [[TheManBehindTheMan the person, or one of the people, behind the conspiracy]], meaning that potentially the angles payoff of this whole storyline is a semi-retired Wrestling/TripleH fighting one of his [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon father-in-law's]] former stooges for control over WWE. Alternatively it could also lead to yet another feud between Wrestling/TripleH and his wife Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon for control over their father/father-in-law's company. What would make the latter potentially worse is that it may extend to Wrestlemania 28, in which the Wrestlemania ten years earlier saw the last feud between HHH and Stephanie, which was terrible and the match that the feud was building up to, HHH vs Wrestling/ChrisJericho, [[EpicFail somehow got to be the final match on the card over]] [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] vs [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hollywood Hulk Hogan]], one of the biggest matches of all time. And Wrestlemania 28 has Rock vs Cena as the schedule main event. [[FridgeHorror Which means WWE could be repeating history by booking HHH and Stephanie's marriage problems over one of the biggest, most anticiopate matches of all time.]] So basically it looks like this whole thing is just to make HHH [[CreatorsPet the center]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of attention]] once again. And as big as this rant is, it still probably doesn't fully cover how bad this is, but I will leave that to anyone else who has something to say about it.

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* clownishchimp: The whole Triple H as the COO angle. Before that the angle was about Wrestling/CMPunk shooting on Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and WWE, taking shots at their behind the scenes activities and their attempt at a PG public image. As a result Vince suspended him and decided to give someone else a shot at the title until John Cena confronted him and demanded that Punk get his shot or he would walk out. Vince agrees but says if [[YouHaveFailedMe Cena fails to beat Punk, he is fired]]. So Punk gets his shot, and despite Vince's attempts at another Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, Punk wins and escapes with the title. At this point WWE is getting a ton of praise over the angle and people can't wait to see what happens next. The following night they hold a tournament to crown a new WWE Champion, while Cena is about to be fired by Vince, making people wonder if Vince would actually do it or not. Then the angle goes downhill when Triple H shows up completely out of the blue and announces that the Board of Directors has relieved Vince of his duties (even though Wrestling/VinceMcMahon is the majority owner of the company [[note]]However, according to RealLife business laws, while the majority shareholder does get the final say most of the time, the Board and/or the other shareholders can still file a legal injunction against his actual voting power if they feel that his actions just endanger the overall company too much -- which was presumably what ({{Kayfabe}}) happened here.[[/note]]) and that he is the new COO. There's also the fact that this is Wrestling/VinceMcMahon the man whose been running WWE since the 80's and brought wrestling to the mainstream and boom periods such as the Rock N Wrestling and [[Wrestling/AttitudeEra Attitude Eras]], and who has played the BigBad of WWE programming since the MontrealScrewjob, Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, and yet he's just kicked out of his own company out of nowhere and dropped and forgotten about like a bad date, just to stop him from firing Cena. It gets worse when Cena simply gets the title back the next week and Punk shows up right after he wins it. This has lead to an extremely confusing angle in which HHH and Punk are feuding, yet neither wants to do a FaceHeelTurn, making it hard for the fans to figure out who to root for. Then at Summerslam Punk beats Cena to be undisputed WWE champion, but is then attacked by Wrestling/KevinNash so that Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio, a heel whom WWE had pushed to the moon despite his lack of overness with the fans, can become the new champion. So Cena is now busy feuding with Del Rio for the title, while the angle turns into a three-way feud between Punk, HHH, and Nash(who is the one playing the heel), two of them being semi-retired from in-ring competition. There's a whole mystery over who sent the text to Nash, but he then reveals he sent it to himself, so HHH fires him. HHH and Punk finally face each other at Night of Champions, which has interference from Wrestling/TheMiz, [[Wrestling/RonKillings R-Truth]], and Nash, and HHH winds up winning the match, thus burying Punk. He then fires Miz and R-Truth and makes a Triple Threat match for HIAC between Punk, Cena (who beat Del Rio cleanly to win the title), and Del rio for the title. It ends with Del Rio winning the title despite just losing it weeks ago when Miz and R-Truth attack Punk. This incident leads to the entire roster becoming threatened by an "unsafe workplace"(yeah, they are afraid of the [[SmugSnake MIZ]] of all people), and pretty much everyone on the roster walks out since they do not have confidence in Triple H and want him to step down. Yes, almost the entire roster pulls a FaceHeelTurn because they do not support HHH, whom is being portrayed as the sympathetic face of the storyline. And there's no end in sight for this angle. To make things even worse, they are playing up [[YesMan John Laurinitis]] as the [[TheManBehindTheMan the person, or one of the people, behind the conspiracy]], meaning that potentially the angles payoff of this whole storyline is a semi-retired Wrestling/TripleH fighting one of his [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon father-in-law's]] former stooges for control over WWE. Alternatively it could also lead to yet another feud between Wrestling/TripleH and his wife Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon for control over their father/father-in-law's company. What would make the latter potentially worse is that it may extend to Wrestlemania 28, in which the Wrestlemania ten years earlier saw the last feud between HHH and Stephanie, which was terrible and the match that the feud was building up to, HHH vs Wrestling/ChrisJericho, [[EpicFail somehow got to be the final match on the card over]] [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] vs [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hollywood Hulk Hogan]], one of the biggest matches of all time. And Wrestlemania 28 has Rock vs Cena as the schedule main event. [[FridgeHorror Which means WWE could be repeating history by booking HHH and Stephanie's marriage problems over one of the biggest, most anticiopate matches of all time.]] So basically it looks like this whole thing is just to make HHH [[CreatorsPet the center]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of attention]] once again. And as big as this rant is, it still probably doesn't fully cover how bad this is, but I will leave that to anyone else who has something to say about it.
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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/WWE Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially W) was the burial of Wrestling/Bayley. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/Charlotte, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Fanservice Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[Pun Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.

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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/WWE Wrestling/{{WWE}} Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially Programs (Especially W) was the burial of Wrestling/Bayley.Wrestling/{{Bayley}}. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/Charlotte, Wrestling/{{Charlotte}}, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Fanservice [[{{Fanservice}} Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[Pun [[{{Pun}} Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.
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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/WWE Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially Raw Wrestling/WWERaw) was the burial of Wrestling/Bayley. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/Charlotte, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a Bitch AlphaBitch by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it SarcasmMode. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Eye Candy Fanservice]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad Angle Pun, and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.

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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current Wrestling/WWE Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially Raw Wrestling/WWERaw) W) was the burial of Wrestling/Bayley. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, Wrestling/Charlotte, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a Bitch AlphaBitch [[AlphaBitch Bitch]] by the name of Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[SarcasmMode When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it SarcasmMode. it]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Eye Candy Fanservice]]? [[Fanservice Eye Candy]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad Angle Pun, [[Pun Angle]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.
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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current [[Wrestling/WWE]] Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially[[Raw Wrestling/WWERaw]]) was the burial of [[Wrestling/Bayley]]. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, [[Wrestling/Charlotte]], and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[Bitch AlphaBitch]] by the name of [[Wrestling/AlexaBliss]] gets drafted from [[Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown]] and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it SarcasmMode]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Eye Candy Fanservice]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM [[Wrestling/KurtAngle]] thought was a bad [[Angle Pun]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.

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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current [[Wrestling/WWE]] Wrestling/WWE Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially[[Raw Wrestling/WWERaw]]) Programs(Especially Raw Wrestling/WWERaw) was the burial of [[Wrestling/Bayley]].Wrestling/Bayley. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, [[Wrestling/Charlotte]], Wrestling/Charlotte, and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[Bitch AlphaBitch]] Bitch AlphaBitch by the name of [[Wrestling/AlexaBliss]] Wrestling/AlexaBliss gets drafted from [[Smackdown Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown]] Wrestling/WWESmackDown and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[When When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it SarcasmMode]]. SarcasmMode. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Eye Candy Fanservice]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM [[Wrestling/KurtAngle]] Wrestling/KurtAngle thought was a bad [[Angle Pun]], Angle Pun, and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.
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* clownishchimp: The whole Triple H as the COO angle. Before that the angle was about Wrestling/CMPunk shooting on Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and WWE, taking shots at their behind the scenes activities and their attempt at a PG public image. As a result Vince suspended him and decided to give someone else a shot at the title until John Cena confronted him and demanded that Punk get his shot or he would walk out. Vince agrees but says if [[YouHaveFailedMe Cena fails to beat Punk, he is fired]]. So Punk gets his shot, and despite Vince's attempts at another Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, Punk wins and escapes with the title. At this point WWE is getting a ton of praise over the angle and people can't wait to see what happens next. The following night they hold a tournament to crown a new WWE Champion, while Cena is about to be fired by Vince, making people wonder if Vince would actually do it or not. Then the angle goes downhill when Triple H shows up completely out of the blue and announces that the Board of Directors has relieved Vince of his duties (even though VinceMcMahon is the majority owner of the company [[note]]However, according to RealLife business laws, while the majority shareholder does get the final say most of the time, the Board and/or the other shareholders can still file a legal injunction against his actual voting power if they feel that his actions just endanger the overall company too much -- which was presumably what ({{Kayfabe}}) happened here.[[/note]]) and that he is the new COO. There's also the fact that this is VinceMcMahon the man whose been running WWE since the 80's and brought wrestling to the mainstream and boom periods such as the Rock N Wrestling and [[Wrestling/AttitudeEra Attitude Eras]], and who has played the BigBad of WWE programming since the MontrealScrewjob, and yet he's just kicked out of his own company out of nowhere and dropped and forgotten about like a bad date, just to stop him from firing Cena. It gets worse when Cena simply gets the title back the next week and Punk shows up right after he wins it. This has lead to an extremely confusing angle in which HHH and Punk are feuding, yet neither wants to do a FaceHeelTurn, making it hard for the fans to figure out who to root for. Then at Summerslam Punk beats Cena to be undisputed WWE champion, but is then attacked by Wrestling/KevinNash so that Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio, a heel whom WWE had pushed to the moon despite his lack of overness with the fans, can become the new champion. So Cena is now busy feuding with Del Rio for the title, while the angle turns into a three-way feud between Punk, HHH, and Nash(who is the one playing the heel), two of them being semi-retired from in-ring competition. There's a whole mystery over who sent the text to Nash, but he then reveals he sent it to himself, so HHH fires him. HHH and Punk finally face each other at Night of Champions, which has interference from Wrestling/TheMiz, [[Wrestling/RonKillings R-Truth]], and Nash, and HHH winds up winning the match, thus burying Punk. He then fires Miz and R-Truth and makes a Triple Threat match for HIAC between Punk, Cena (who beat Del Rio cleanly to win the title), and Del rio for the title. It ends with Del Rio winning the title despite just losing it weeks ago when Miz and R-Truth attack Punk. This incident leads to the entire roster becoming threatened by an "unsafe workplace"(yeah, they are afraid of the [[SmugSnake MIZ]] of all people), and pretty much everyone on the roster walks out since they do not have confidence in Triple H and want him to step down. Yes, almost the entire roster pulls a FaceHeelTurn because they do not support HHH, whom is being portrayed as the sympathetic face of the storyline. And there's no end in sight for this angle. To make things even worse, they are playing up [[YesMan John Laurinitis]] as the [[TheManBehindTheMan the person, or one of the people, behind the conspiracy]], meaning that potentially the angles payoff of this whole storyline is a semi-retired Wrestling/TripleH fighting one of his [[VinceMcMahon father-in-law's]] former stooges for control over WWE. Alternatively it could also lead to yet another feud between Wrestling/TripleH and his wife Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon for control over their father/father-in-law's company. What would make the latter potentially worse is that it may extend to Wrestlemania 28, in which the Wrestlemania ten years earlier saw the last feud between HHH and Stephanie, which was terrible and the match that the feud was building up to, HHH vs Wrestling/ChrisJericho, [[EpicFail somehow got to be the final match on the card over]] [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] vs [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hollywood Hulk Hogan]], one of the biggest matches of all time. And Wrestlemania 28 has Rock vs Cena as the schedule main event. [[FridgeHorror Which means WWE could be repeating history by booking HHH and Stephanie's marriage problems over one of the biggest, most anticiopate matches of all time.]] So basically it looks like this whole thing is just to make HHH [[CreatorsPet the center]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of attention]] once again. And as big as this rant is, it still probably doesn't fully cover how bad this is, but I will leave that to anyone else who has something to say about it.

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* clownishchimp: The whole Triple H as the COO angle. Before that the angle was about Wrestling/CMPunk shooting on Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and WWE, taking shots at their behind the scenes activities and their attempt at a PG public image. As a result Vince suspended him and decided to give someone else a shot at the title until John Cena confronted him and demanded that Punk get his shot or he would walk out. Vince agrees but says if [[YouHaveFailedMe Cena fails to beat Punk, he is fired]]. So Punk gets his shot, and despite Vince's attempts at another Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, Punk wins and escapes with the title. At this point WWE is getting a ton of praise over the angle and people can't wait to see what happens next. The following night they hold a tournament to crown a new WWE Champion, while Cena is about to be fired by Vince, making people wonder if Vince would actually do it or not. Then the angle goes downhill when Triple H shows up completely out of the blue and announces that the Board of Directors has relieved Vince of his duties (even though VinceMcMahon Wrestling/VinceMcMahon is the majority owner of the company [[note]]However, according to RealLife business laws, while the majority shareholder does get the final say most of the time, the Board and/or the other shareholders can still file a legal injunction against his actual voting power if they feel that his actions just endanger the overall company too much -- which was presumably what ({{Kayfabe}}) happened here.[[/note]]) and that he is the new COO. There's also the fact that this is VinceMcMahon Wrestling/VinceMcMahon the man whose been running WWE since the 80's and brought wrestling to the mainstream and boom periods such as the Rock N Wrestling and [[Wrestling/AttitudeEra Attitude Eras]], and who has played the BigBad of WWE programming since the MontrealScrewjob, and yet he's just kicked out of his own company out of nowhere and dropped and forgotten about like a bad date, just to stop him from firing Cena. It gets worse when Cena simply gets the title back the next week and Punk shows up right after he wins it. This has lead to an extremely confusing angle in which HHH and Punk are feuding, yet neither wants to do a FaceHeelTurn, making it hard for the fans to figure out who to root for. Then at Summerslam Punk beats Cena to be undisputed WWE champion, but is then attacked by Wrestling/KevinNash so that Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio, a heel whom WWE had pushed to the moon despite his lack of overness with the fans, can become the new champion. So Cena is now busy feuding with Del Rio for the title, while the angle turns into a three-way feud between Punk, HHH, and Nash(who is the one playing the heel), two of them being semi-retired from in-ring competition. There's a whole mystery over who sent the text to Nash, but he then reveals he sent it to himself, so HHH fires him. HHH and Punk finally face each other at Night of Champions, which has interference from Wrestling/TheMiz, [[Wrestling/RonKillings R-Truth]], and Nash, and HHH winds up winning the match, thus burying Punk. He then fires Miz and R-Truth and makes a Triple Threat match for HIAC between Punk, Cena (who beat Del Rio cleanly to win the title), and Del rio for the title. It ends with Del Rio winning the title despite just losing it weeks ago when Miz and R-Truth attack Punk. This incident leads to the entire roster becoming threatened by an "unsafe workplace"(yeah, they are afraid of the [[SmugSnake MIZ]] of all people), and pretty much everyone on the roster walks out since they do not have confidence in Triple H and want him to step down. Yes, almost the entire roster pulls a FaceHeelTurn because they do not support HHH, whom is being portrayed as the sympathetic face of the storyline. And there's no end in sight for this angle. To make things even worse, they are playing up [[YesMan John Laurinitis]] as the [[TheManBehindTheMan the person, or one of the people, behind the conspiracy]], meaning that potentially the angles payoff of this whole storyline is a semi-retired Wrestling/TripleH fighting one of his [[VinceMcMahon [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon father-in-law's]] former stooges for control over WWE. Alternatively it could also lead to yet another feud between Wrestling/TripleH and his wife Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon for control over their father/father-in-law's company. What would make the latter potentially worse is that it may extend to Wrestlemania 28, in which the Wrestlemania ten years earlier saw the last feud between HHH and Stephanie, which was terrible and the match that the feud was building up to, HHH vs Wrestling/ChrisJericho, [[EpicFail somehow got to be the final match on the card over]] [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] vs [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hollywood Hulk Hogan]], one of the biggest matches of all time. And Wrestlemania 28 has Rock vs Cena as the schedule main event. [[FridgeHorror Which means WWE could be repeating history by booking HHH and Stephanie's marriage problems over one of the biggest, most anticiopate matches of all time.]] So basically it looks like this whole thing is just to make HHH [[CreatorsPet the center]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of attention]] once again. And as big as this rant is, it still probably doesn't fully cover how bad this is, but I will leave that to anyone else who has something to say about it.
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* Jables6: Wrestling/JohnCena and Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio failed to stop CM Punk from escaping MITB with the championship. In response, Vince holds a tournament of eight superstars, and none of them is Cena. Wrestling/ReyMysterioJr and TheMiz enter the finals, but their match is postponed by Vince, who wanted to fire Cena in front of the entire WWE universe. Cue HHH. He walks in, not only to stop Vince from firing Cena, but to fire Vince as well, with HHH taking his place. Fast forward one week. Mysterio beats the Miz to obtain not only the first post-[=McMahon=] championship, but his first WWE Championship. Now all that's left is to see how long it will be before Del Rio cashes in his MITB. Then, Triple H pulls what many sports analysts call a 'dick move' and forces Mysterio to defend his title against none other than John Cena in the same night. in less than two hours, Mysterio lost his championship, and not even Wrestling/CMPunk walking out with the real belt around his waist to his old indy theme, Cult Of Personality, blaring through the speakers could end the fan rage felt that night.

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* Jables6: Wrestling/JohnCena and Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio failed to stop CM Punk from escaping MITB with the championship. In response, Vince holds a tournament of eight superstars, and none of them is Cena. Wrestling/ReyMysterioJr and TheMiz Wrestling/TheMiz enter the finals, but their match is postponed by Vince, who wanted to fire Cena in front of the entire WWE universe. Cue HHH. He walks in, not only to stop Vince from firing Cena, but to fire Vince as well, with HHH taking his place. Fast forward one week. Mysterio beats the Miz to obtain not only the first post-[=McMahon=] championship, but his first WWE Championship. Now all that's left is to see how long it will be before Del Rio cashes in his MITB. Then, Triple H pulls what many sports analysts call a 'dick move' and forces Mysterio to defend his title against none other than John Cena in the same night. in less than two hours, Mysterio lost his championship, and not even Wrestling/CMPunk walking out with the real belt around his waist to his old indy theme, Cult Of Personality, blaring through the speakers could end the fan rage felt that night.



* clownishchimp: The whole Triple H as the COO angle. Before that the angle was about Wrestling/CMPunk shooting on Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and WWE, taking shots at their behind the scenes activities and their attempt at a PG public image. As a result Vince suspended him and decided to give someone else a shot at the title until John Cena confronted him and demanded that Punk get his shot or he would walk out. Vince agrees but says if [[YouHaveFailedMe Cena fails to beat Punk, he is fired]]. So Punk gets his shot, and despite Vince's attempts at another Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, Punk wins and escapes with the title. At this point WWE is getting a ton of praise over the angle and people can't wait to see what happens next. The following night they hold a tournament to crown a new WWE Champion, while Cena is about to be fired by Vince, making people wonder if Vince would actually do it or not. Then the angle goes downhill when Triple H shows up completely out of the blue and announces that the Board of Directors has relieved Vince of his duties (even though VinceMcMahon is the majority owner of the company [[note]]However, according to RealLife business laws, while the majority shareholder does get the final say most of the time, the Board and/or the other shareholders can still file a legal injunction against his actual voting power if they feel that his actions just endanger the overall company too much -- which was presumably what ({{Kayfabe}}) happened here.[[/note]]) and that he is the new COO. There's also the fact that this is VinceMcMahon the man whose been running WWE since the 80's and brought wrestling to the mainstream and boom periods such as the Rock N Wrestling and [[Wrestling/AttitudeEra Attitude Eras]], and who has played the BigBad of WWE programming since the MontrealScrewjob, and yet he's just kicked out of his own company out of nowhere and dropped and forgotten about like a bad date, just to stop him from firing Cena. It gets worse when Cena simply gets the title back the next week and Punk shows up right after he wins it. This has lead to an extremely confusing angle in which HHH and Punk are feuding, yet neither wants to do a FaceHeelTurn, making it hard for the fans to figure out who to root for. Then at Summerslam Punk beats Cena to be undisputed WWE champion, but is then attacked by Wrestling/KevinNash so that Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio, a heel whom WWE had pushed to the moon despite his lack of overness with the fans, can become the new champion. So Cena is now busy feuding with Del Rio for the title, while the angle turns into a three-way feud between Punk, HHH, and Nash(who is the one playing the heel), two of them being semi-retired from in-ring competition. There's a whole mystery over who sent the text to Nash, but he then reveals he sent it to himself, so HHH fires him. HHH and Punk finally face each other at Night of Champions, which has interference from TheMiz, [[Wrestling/RonKillings R-Truth]], and Nash, and HHH winds up winning the match, thus burying Punk. He then fires Miz and R-Truth and makes a Triple Threat match for HIAC between Punk, Cena (who beat Del Rio cleanly to win the title), and Del rio for the title. It ends with Del Rio winning the title despite just losing it weeks ago when Miz and R-Truth attack Punk. This incident leads to the entire roster becoming threatened by an "unsafe workplace"(yeah, they are afraid of the [[SmugSnake MIZ]] of all people), and pretty much everyone on the roster walks out since they do not have confidence in Triple H and want him to step down. Yes, almost the entire roster pulls a FaceHeelTurn because they do not support HHH, whom is being portrayed as the sympathetic face of the storyline. And there's no end in sight for this angle. To make things even worse, they are playing up [[YesMan John Laurinitis]] as the [[TheManBehindTheMan the person, or one of the people, behind the conspiracy]], meaning that potentially the angles payoff of this whole storyline is a semi-retired Wrestling/TripleH fighting one of his [[VinceMcMahon father-in-law's]] former stooges for control over WWE. Alternatively it could also lead to yet another feud between Wrestling/TripleH and his wife Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon for control over their father/father-in-law's company. What would make the latter potentially worse is that it may extend to Wrestlemania 28, in which the Wrestlemania ten years earlier saw the last feud between HHH and Stephanie, which was terrible and the match that the feud was building up to, HHH vs Wrestling/ChrisJericho, [[EpicFail somehow got to be the final match on the card over]] [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] vs [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hollywood Hulk Hogan]], one of the biggest matches of all time. And Wrestlemania 28 has Rock vs Cena as the schedule main event. [[FridgeHorror Which means WWE could be repeating history by booking HHH and Stephanie's marriage problems over one of the biggest, most anticiopate matches of all time.]] So basically it looks like this whole thing is just to make HHH [[CreatorsPet the center]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of attention]] once again. And as big as this rant is, it still probably doesn't fully cover how bad this is, but I will leave that to anyone else who has something to say about it.

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* clownishchimp: The whole Triple H as the COO angle. Before that the angle was about Wrestling/CMPunk shooting on Wrestling/VinceMcMahon and WWE, taking shots at their behind the scenes activities and their attempt at a PG public image. As a result Vince suspended him and decided to give someone else a shot at the title until John Cena confronted him and demanded that Punk get his shot or he would walk out. Vince agrees but says if [[YouHaveFailedMe Cena fails to beat Punk, he is fired]]. So Punk gets his shot, and despite Vince's attempts at another Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob, Punk wins and escapes with the title. At this point WWE is getting a ton of praise over the angle and people can't wait to see what happens next. The following night they hold a tournament to crown a new WWE Champion, while Cena is about to be fired by Vince, making people wonder if Vince would actually do it or not. Then the angle goes downhill when Triple H shows up completely out of the blue and announces that the Board of Directors has relieved Vince of his duties (even though VinceMcMahon is the majority owner of the company [[note]]However, according to RealLife business laws, while the majority shareholder does get the final say most of the time, the Board and/or the other shareholders can still file a legal injunction against his actual voting power if they feel that his actions just endanger the overall company too much -- which was presumably what ({{Kayfabe}}) happened here.[[/note]]) and that he is the new COO. There's also the fact that this is VinceMcMahon the man whose been running WWE since the 80's and brought wrestling to the mainstream and boom periods such as the Rock N Wrestling and [[Wrestling/AttitudeEra Attitude Eras]], and who has played the BigBad of WWE programming since the MontrealScrewjob, and yet he's just kicked out of his own company out of nowhere and dropped and forgotten about like a bad date, just to stop him from firing Cena. It gets worse when Cena simply gets the title back the next week and Punk shows up right after he wins it. This has lead to an extremely confusing angle in which HHH and Punk are feuding, yet neither wants to do a FaceHeelTurn, making it hard for the fans to figure out who to root for. Then at Summerslam Punk beats Cena to be undisputed WWE champion, but is then attacked by Wrestling/KevinNash so that Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio, a heel whom WWE had pushed to the moon despite his lack of overness with the fans, can become the new champion. So Cena is now busy feuding with Del Rio for the title, while the angle turns into a three-way feud between Punk, HHH, and Nash(who is the one playing the heel), two of them being semi-retired from in-ring competition. There's a whole mystery over who sent the text to Nash, but he then reveals he sent it to himself, so HHH fires him. HHH and Punk finally face each other at Night of Champions, which has interference from TheMiz, Wrestling/TheMiz, [[Wrestling/RonKillings R-Truth]], and Nash, and HHH winds up winning the match, thus burying Punk. He then fires Miz and R-Truth and makes a Triple Threat match for HIAC between Punk, Cena (who beat Del Rio cleanly to win the title), and Del rio for the title. It ends with Del Rio winning the title despite just losing it weeks ago when Miz and R-Truth attack Punk. This incident leads to the entire roster becoming threatened by an "unsafe workplace"(yeah, they are afraid of the [[SmugSnake MIZ]] of all people), and pretty much everyone on the roster walks out since they do not have confidence in Triple H and want him to step down. Yes, almost the entire roster pulls a FaceHeelTurn because they do not support HHH, whom is being portrayed as the sympathetic face of the storyline. And there's no end in sight for this angle. To make things even worse, they are playing up [[YesMan John Laurinitis]] as the [[TheManBehindTheMan the person, or one of the people, behind the conspiracy]], meaning that potentially the angles payoff of this whole storyline is a semi-retired Wrestling/TripleH fighting one of his [[VinceMcMahon father-in-law's]] former stooges for control over WWE. Alternatively it could also lead to yet another feud between Wrestling/TripleH and his wife Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon for control over their father/father-in-law's company. What would make the latter potentially worse is that it may extend to Wrestlemania 28, in which the Wrestlemania ten years earlier saw the last feud between HHH and Stephanie, which was terrible and the match that the feud was building up to, HHH vs Wrestling/ChrisJericho, [[EpicFail somehow got to be the final match on the card over]] [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] vs [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hollywood Hulk Hogan]], one of the biggest matches of all time. And Wrestlemania 28 has Rock vs Cena as the schedule main event. [[FridgeHorror Which means WWE could be repeating history by booking HHH and Stephanie's marriage problems over one of the biggest, most anticiopate matches of all time.]] So basically it looks like this whole thing is just to make HHH [[CreatorsPet the center]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad of attention]] once again. And as big as this rant is, it still probably doesn't fully cover how bad this is, but I will leave that to anyone else who has something to say about it.



** TnAdct1: Oh god, the "vote of confidence" segment is pretty much one of the worst segments ever written for a WWE program, as there's so many problems in that bit that I'm likely going to miss one of them. First, the whole reason for this "vote of confidence" has to do with the talent feeling unsafe due to recent run-ins by recently "fired" wrestlers TheMiz and R-Truth. In other words, they are complaining about stuff that's the norm in any wrestling league. That's like saying that hockey players feeling that their sport is unsafe due to the amount of body checking in their games. Second, outside of a referee and Wrestling/JerryLawler (who himself provides another problem in that he votes "no confidence" despite the fact that he clearly points out that this is not Triple H's fault, but rather someone conspiring to overthrow him), everyone who spoke against Triple H were heel wrestlers. Making things worse, among those complaining are [[{{Hypocrite}} Wade Barrett (whose actions during the initial Nexus attack the previous year were far worse than what Miz and R Truth did), Mark Henry (who is booked as a vicious monster heel and had attacked Lawler two weeks prior), and Beth Pheonix (who feels that these run-ins may result in the Divas getting harmed, despite the fact that she's a monster heel Diva and one of only two females to ever wrestled in a Royal Rumble match)]]. In other words, it's [[StrawHypocrite hypocrisy]] at its worst. Third, WWE bookers purposely had all the top faces (John Cena, CM Punk) not take part in this bit, as they didn't want them to receive heat during the walk-out at the end. Hence, rather than have Cena come out and obviously call out all the bull that's been going on here (and hopefully encourage the faces and non-wrestling staff to give a vote of confidence), it turns into basically a thing to make Triple H feel sympathetic to the fans. Finally, [[SpotlightStealingSquad this whole event]] took prominence over actually getting things ready for Vengeance, resulting in two PPV's in a row in which there's only two weeks to have the Raw portion of the card built up before the event.

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** TnAdct1: Oh god, the "vote of confidence" segment is pretty much one of the worst segments ever written for a WWE program, as there's so many problems in that bit that I'm likely going to miss one of them. First, the whole reason for this "vote of confidence" has to do with the talent feeling unsafe due to recent run-ins by recently "fired" wrestlers TheMiz The Miz and R-Truth. In other words, they are complaining about stuff that's the norm in any wrestling league. That's like saying that hockey players feeling that their sport is unsafe due to the amount of body checking in their games. Second, outside of a referee and Wrestling/JerryLawler (who himself provides another problem in that he votes "no confidence" despite the fact that he clearly points out that this is not Triple H's fault, but rather someone conspiring to overthrow him), everyone who spoke against Triple H were heel wrestlers. Making things worse, among those complaining are [[{{Hypocrite}} Wade Barrett (whose actions during the initial Nexus attack the previous year were far worse than what Miz and R Truth did), Mark Henry (who is booked as a vicious monster heel and had attacked Lawler two weeks prior), and Beth Pheonix (who feels that these run-ins may result in the Divas getting harmed, despite the fact that she's a monster heel Diva and one of only two females to ever wrestled in a Royal Rumble match)]]. In other words, it's [[StrawHypocrite hypocrisy]] at its worst. Third, WWE bookers purposely had all the top faces (John Cena, CM Punk) not take part in this bit, as they didn't want them to receive heat during the walk-out at the end. Hence, rather than have Cena come out and obviously call out all the bull that's been going on here (and hopefully encourage the faces and non-wrestling staff to give a vote of confidence), it turns into basically a thing to make Triple H feel sympathetic to the fans. Finally, [[SpotlightStealingSquad this whole event]] took prominence over actually getting things ready for Vengeance, resulting in two PPV's in a row in which there's only two weeks to have the Raw portion of the card built up before the event.
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* Red The Hedgehog: I have to say, I'm not that indifferent from the current [[Wrestling/WWE]] Product, in fact, I was very involved with it ever since the 2nd Brand Split, but what put the nail in the coffin for me for watching the TV Programs(Especially[[Raw Wrestling/WWERaw]]) was the burial of [[Wrestling/Bayley]]. At first, they treated her with immediate praise and respect, having a glorious Main Roster debut at Battleground. Then you have her have a pretty Solid feud with her colleague, [[Wrestling/Charlotte]], and then you give her the Women's championship which she heavily deserved. Seems all fun and dandy, but then a [[Bitch AlphaBitch]] by the name of [[Wrestling/AlexaBliss]] gets drafted from [[Smackdown Live Wrestling/WWESmackDown]] and ruins the entire women's division by taking the title off of her, and she wasn't even Champion for more than 2 Months!! [[When it comes to Great booking, you sure know how to do it SarcasmMode]]. What happened to the New Era? You know, when you built women as legit competitors and not just [[Eye Candy Fanservice]]? That doesn't help that the next 2-3 months was Cringey angle after another, including the Awful "This Is Your Life" Segment, which even GM [[Wrestling/KurtAngle]] thought was a bad [[Angle Pun]], and several slow, and methodical beatdowns, I mean Matches of Bayley which she didn't deserve. As of 2018, Bayley is now just a "Woman on the Roster", lost in the shuffle and probably won't ever win the women's championship Ever Again.
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** Saitsu: Valid points and I think no one in their right mind would say that Shawn Michaels was in the right for...well, any of his antics back in the 90s. However remember this. When Shawn ducked the match, Bret needed a replacement match and we needed a replacement title match. What did we get? First off, the Undertaker got the strap which he was LONG overdue for as a {{face}}. The second? Bret's replacement match? With Stone Cold Steve Austin in a Submission Match. That match led to Bret's return as a vicious {{heel}}, and absolutely made Austin's star leading to the buildup of Austin winning the title and becoming the top guy in WWE. If Shawn stays and faces Bret at Mania as planned, who's to say what happens? Taker could be waiting longer for his recognition as champion, and Austin, while certainly over (hence the double turn in the first place), may not become the mega star he became without that match. Shawn's cowardice and terrible attitude may have actually saved the WWE in the long run, though I wouldn't tell him that.
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* Dixie Carter, outside of her role as the CorruptCorporateExecutive so this was real, a shoot, addressed the, "Fire [[Wrestling/VinceRusso Russo]]" chants when asked about hiring him. Her threat to fire someone else if it happens again was all the evidence needed if there wasn't before that Carter's attitude was very much, "[[PrecisionFStrike Fuck]] the fans, we don't care."

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* Tropers/~{{tsstevens}}: Dixie Carter, outside of her role as the CorruptCorporateExecutive so this was real, a shoot, addressed the, "Fire [[Wrestling/VinceRusso Russo]]" chants when asked about hiring him. Her threat to fire someone else if it happens again was all the evidence needed if there wasn't before that Carter's attitude was very much, "[[PrecisionFStrike Fuck]] the fans, we don't care."
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* Dixie Carter, outside of her role as the CorruptCorporateExecutive so this was real, a shoot, addressed the, "Fire [[Wrestling/Vince Russo Russo]]" chants when asked about hiring him. Her threat to fire someone else if it happens again was all the evidence needed if there wasn't before that Carter's attitude was very much, "[[PrecisionFStrike Fuck]] the fans, we don't care."

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* Dixie Carter, outside of her role as the CorruptCorporateExecutive so this was real, a shoot, addressed the, "Fire [[Wrestling/Vince Russo [[Wrestling/VinceRusso Russo]]" chants when asked about hiring him. Her threat to fire someone else if it happens again was all the evidence needed if there wasn't before that Carter's attitude was very much, "[[PrecisionFStrike Fuck]] the fans, we don't care."
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* Dixie Carter, outside of her role as the CorruptCorporateExecutive so this was real, a shoot, addressed the, "Fire [[Wrestling/Vince Russo Russo]]" chants when asked about hiring him. Her threat to fire someone else if it happens again was all the evidence needed if there wasn't before that Carter's attitude was very much, "[[PrecisionFStrike Fuck]] the fans, we don't care."
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* Giant Leviathan: Sami Zayn's FaceHeelTurn. I have one word to perfectly summarise why turning Sami Zayn Heel was a colossally stupid decision: R-Evolution. The entire point of that storyline, was that Sami Zayn was tempted to turn Heel after months and months of getting screwed over, but ultimately chose not to. And the thing is, he did show an edge, he did show character (Probably more character than anyone on the main roster has right now), and he did it all while making the conscious choice to stay Babyface. But now we're saying that that moment no longer matters. This pivotal moment in Sami Zayn's character may as well have never happened. [[SarcasmMode Great, well done]] [=WWE=]. This is as idiotic as Batman suddenly gunning down families in alleyways, or Spiderman deciding he doesn't need to bother stopping criminals, or [[TakeThat Captain America joining Hydra]]. You're going against one of the most important moments in their character development (And in Sami Zayn's case, the very thing that made him stand out as a unique character) for the sake of a shock moment, and his reasoning is moronic too. "[[InsaneTrollLogic After being severely injured, I now realise that my worst enemy is totally correct and I will now change my life's philosophy to agree with him!]]" [[SarcamMode Gee... I never realised it was so easy! I think tonight I'll go stab some Westburo Baptist Church members. Because as we all know, violently assaulting someone is the best way to get them to agree with your worldview.]] Also, this makes no sense for Kevin Owens either. This is the guy who is the most paranoid man on the planet. [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder The guy who turned on Chris Jericho because he felt so uncomfortable with someone being so close to him]]. There is no way Kevin Owens would be so accepting of this. If the writers had any consideration for character consistency whatsoever, Kevin should be going: "What's your angle? You think I owe you something? Don't try to pull that "I just wanted to help" shit on me!" Because an act of such loyalty would make Kevin Owen deeply uncomfortable. [[HeelRealization Since it reminds him of how much of a treacherous scumbag he is]]. But no. Fuck nuance. Fuck character depth and consistency. We need a random shock moment because the [=WWE=] doesn't know how to write characters. So here's the real story as far as I'm concerned:Sami Zayn died on a hospital bed due to a crushed throat. The guy who came to save Kevin Owens is his identical cousin Mami Sane. And I'm done. The two characters that brought me back into the WWE, into wrestling, were Bray Wyatt and Sami Zayn. Now one of them is a rambling idiot who is about as worthless as slime mold.And the other one is dead.Fuck you WWE.

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* Giant Leviathan: Sami Zayn's FaceHeelTurn. I have one word to perfectly summarise why turning Sami Zayn Heel was a colossally stupid decision: R-Evolution. The entire point of that storyline, was that Sami Zayn was tempted to turn Heel after months and months of getting screwed over, but ultimately chose not to. And the thing is, he did show an edge, he did show character (Probably more character than anyone on the main roster has right now), and he did it all while making the conscious choice to stay Babyface. But now we're saying that that moment no longer matters. This pivotal moment in Sami Zayn's character may as well have never happened. [[SarcasmMode Great, well done]] [=WWE=]. This is as idiotic as Batman suddenly gunning down families in alleyways, or Spiderman deciding he doesn't need to bother stopping criminals, or [[TakeThat Captain America joining Hydra]]. You're going against one of the most important moments in their character development (And in Sami Zayn's case, the very thing that made him stand out as a unique character) for the sake of a shock moment, and his reasoning is moronic too. "[[InsaneTrollLogic After being severely injured, I now realise that my worst enemy is totally correct and I will now change my life's philosophy to agree with him!]]" [[SarcamMode [[SarcasmMode Gee... I never realised it was so easy! I think tonight I'll go stab some Westburo Baptist Church members. Because as we all know, violently assaulting someone is the best way to get them to agree with your worldview.]] Also, this makes no sense for Kevin Owens either. This is the guy who is the most paranoid man on the planet. [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder The guy who turned on Chris Jericho because he felt so uncomfortable with someone being so close to him]]. There is no way Kevin Owens would be so accepting of this. If the writers had any consideration for character consistency whatsoever, Kevin should be going: "What's your angle? You think I owe you something? Don't try to pull that "I just wanted to help" shit on me!" Because an act of such loyalty would make Kevin Owen deeply uncomfortable. [[HeelRealization Since it reminds him of how much of a treacherous scumbag he is]]. But no. Fuck nuance. Fuck character depth and consistency. We need a random shock moment because the [=WWE=] doesn't know how to write characters. So here's the real story as far as I'm concerned:Sami Zayn died on a hospital bed due to a crushed throat. The guy who came to save Kevin Owens is his identical cousin Mami Sane. And I'm done. The two characters that brought me back into the WWE, into wrestling, were Bray Wyatt and Sami Zayn. Now one of them is a rambling idiot who is about as worthless as slime mold.And the other one is dead.Fuck you WWE.
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* Giant Leviathan: Sami Zayn's FaceHeelTurn. I have one word to perfectly summarise why turning Sami Zayn Heel was a colossally stupid decision: R-Evolution. The entire point of that storyline, was that Sami Zayn was tempted to turn Heel after months and months of getting screwed over, but ultimately chose not to. And the thing is, he did show an edge, he did show character (Probably more character than anyone on the main roster has right now), and he did it all while making the conscious choice to stay Babyface. But now we're saying that that moment no longer matters. This pivotal moment in Sami Zayn's character may as well have never happened. [[SarcasmMode Great, well done]] [=WWE=]. This is as idiotic as Batman suddenly gunning down families in alleyways, or Spiderman deciding he doesn't need to bother stopping criminals, or [[TakeThat Captain America joining Hydra]]. You're going against one of the most important moments in their character development (And in Sami Zayn's case, the very thing that made him stand out as a unique character) for the sake of a shock moment, and his reasoning is moronic too. "[[InsaneTrollLogic After being severely injured, I now realise that my worst enemy is totally correct and I will now change my life's philosophy to agree with him!]]" [[SarcamMode Gee... I never realised it was so easy! I think tonight I'll go stab some Westburo Baptist Church members. Because as we all know, violently assaulting someone is the best way to get them to agree with your worldview.]] Also, this makes no sense for Kevin Owens either. This is the guy who is the most paranoid man on the planet. [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder The guy who turned on Chris Jericho because he felt so uncomfortable with someone being so close to him]]. There is no way Kevin Owens would be so accepting of this. If the writers had any consideration for character consistency whatsoever, Kevin should be going: "What's your angle? You think I owe you something? Don't try to pull that "I just wanted to help" shit on me!" Because an act of such loyalty would make Kevin Owen deeply uncomfortable. [[HeelRealization Since it reminds him of how much of a treacherous scumbag he is]]. But no. Fuck nuance. Fuck character depth and consistency. We need a random shock moment because the [=WWE=] doesn't know how to write characters. So here's the real story as far as I'm concerned:Sami Zayn died on a hospital bed due to a crushed throat. The guy who came to save Kevin Owens is his identical cousin Mami Sane. And I'm done. The two characters that brought me back into the WWE, into wrestling, were Bray Wyatt and Sami Zayn. Now one of them is a rambling idiot who is about as worthless as slime mold.And the other one is dead.Fuck you WWE.
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Other low points for me were the 2005 angle involving Jim Ross' colonoscopy surgery, Shelton Benjamin's mother, HHH burying the entire roster in his 2007 return, Beaver Cleavage, and the Undertaker continuing his run way past his prime, giving us awful matches like the one against Roman Reigns at WM33.

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Other low points for me were the 2005 angle involving Jim Ross' colonoscopy surgery, Shelton Benjamin's mother, HHH burying the entire roster in his 2007 return, Beaver Cleavage, and the Undertaker continuing his run way past his prime, giving us awful matches like the one against Roman Reigns at WM33.

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