History DethroningMoment / Naruto

26th Jul '16 3:20:44 PM Anddrix
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* Tropers/RayneCyro: [[{{Asspull}} The Great Snake Escape.]] Let's run through the checklist: Killing off my favorite Akatsuki character not named Pain? Check. Having him die pointlessly? Check. Having him lose to [[BaseBreaker Sasuke?]] Check. Having Sasuke win by breaking the established rules of canon and pulling off something that shouldn't be possible for even the Fourth Hokage? Check.
* [=ajr1218=]: Tobi's true identity. Note that I am not spoiling this as the answer is [[TheUntwist so goddamn obvious]] and so [[BaseBreaker base-breaking]] that it almost ruined the entire series for me (and I enjoy this series a lot), but let's just say it was not only completely obvious, but utterly implausible. Congrats, Kishimoto, you have a lot of freakin' explaining to do.

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* Tropers/RayneCyro: [[{{Asspull}} The Great Snake Escape.]] Let's run through the checklist: Killing off my favorite Akatsuki character not named Pain? Check. Having him die pointlessly? Check. Having him lose to [[BaseBreaker [[BaseBreakingCharacter Sasuke?]] Check. Having Sasuke win by breaking the established rules of canon and pulling off something that shouldn't be possible for even the Fourth Hokage? Check.
* [=ajr1218=]: Tobi's true identity. Note that I am not spoiling this as the answer is [[TheUntwist so goddamn obvious]] and so [[BaseBreaker base-breaking]] base-breaking that it almost ruined the entire series for me (and I enjoy this series a lot), but let's just say it was not only completely obvious, but utterly implausible. Congrats, Kishimoto, you have a lot of freakin' explaining to do.
15th Jun '16 7:49:24 AM Berrenta
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9th Jun '16 7:08:26 PM Berrenta
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14th Mar '16 3:51:49 AM KhlavKalash
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* [=JediMasterDraco=]: The last couple episodes of Pein's invasion are pure torture. Up until then, we'd seen Naruto kicking butt and using his brains and then Hinata comes in, not to fight Pein directly, but too fight him off long enough to free Naruto. This leads to her being defeated, almost killed, and Naruto going up to six-tails in rage. And then the fight scene, which should have been a beautiful moment to express just how much pain Naruto is in gets turned into something out of Tom and Jerry. Compare it to the last time Naruto allowed Kyuubi to take over ad tell me which one is better. Frickin ridiculous. And then we have Pein be instantly forgiven. Admittedly, it's more justified then in a lot of other cases in this series owing to him bringing all of Konoha's citizens back to life. Oh, and then Hinata's confession gets absolutely no resolution. It's times like this when I understand why people drink.

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* [=JediMasterDraco=]: The last couple episodes of Pein's invasion are pure torture. Up until then, we'd seen Naruto kicking butt and using his brains and then Hinata comes in, not to fight Pein directly, but too to fight him off long enough to free Naruto. This leads to her being defeated, almost killed, and Naruto going up to six-tails in rage. And then the fight scene, which should have been a beautiful moment to express just how much pain Naruto is in gets turned into something out of Tom and Jerry. Compare it to the last time Naruto allowed Kyuubi to take over ad and tell me which one is better. Frickin ridiculous. And then we have Pein be instantly forgiven. Admittedly, it's more justified then than in a lot of other cases in this series owing to him bringing all of Konoha's citizens back to life. Oh, and then Hinata's confession gets absolutely no resolution. It's times like this when I understand why people drink.
14th Mar '16 3:47:48 AM KhlavKalash
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* Retloclive: The ending of the Pain Invasion arc not acknowledging Hinata's attempt to save Naruto's life. Naruto returns to the village upon defeating Pain, he gets a hug from Sakura while the crowd cheers his return... and Hinata just stands and watches. Ya, thanks Kishi, way to make Naruto come off like an UngratefulBastard.
* [=JediMasterDraco=]: The last couple episodes of Pein's invasion are pure torture. Up until then, we'd seen Naruto kicking butt and using his brains and then Hinata comes in, not to fight Pein directly, but too fight him off long enough to free Naruto. This leads to her being defeated, almost killed, and Naruto going up to six-tails in rage. And then the fight scene, which should have been a beautiful moment to express just how much pain Naruto is in gets turned into something out of Tom and Jerry. Compare it to the last time Naruto allowed Kyuubi to take over ad tell me which one is better. Frickin ridiculous. And then we have Pein be instantly forgiven. Admittedly, it's more justified then in a lot of other cases in this series owing to him bringing all of Konoha's citizens back to life. Oh, and then Hinata's confession gets absolutely no resolution. It's times like this when I understand why people drink.
* Tropers/{{HeartlessandSoulless}}: Before the battle with Kakuzu, Kakashi teaches Naruto that doing training while using the kage bunshin jutsu is WAY faster (1 person = 1 hour of training and 1 person + 1 clone = 2 hours of training) and more effective; and if that were not enough, he specifically said that Naruto was the only one that could do it, because he has absurd amounts of chakra (ergo, he already knew about how the Uzumaki lineage/clan was special). I didn't pay this much mind until way after I was done with the manga, but as soon as it hit me, I was like: "[[WhatTheHellHero WHAT THE FUCK, KAKASHI]]? Why the hell didn't you teach this to Naruto before, you bastard? Didn't you thought it would ever be useful?". This is what actually broke the illusion of the Naruto manga to me. Sure, it has its cool moments, but I can never take it seriously as a narrative again.



* Retloclive: The ending of the Pain Invasion arc not acknowledging Hinata's attempt to save Naruto's life. Naruto returns to the village upon defeating Pain, he gets a hug from Sakura while the crowd cheers his return...and Hinata just stands and watches. Ya, thanks Kishi, way to make Naruto come off like an UngratefulBastard.
* [=JediMasterDraco=]: The last couple episodes of Pein's invasion are pure torture. Up until then, we'd seen Naruto kicking butt and using his brains and then Hinata comes in, not to fight Pein directly, but too fight him off long enough to free Naruto. This leads to her being defeated, almost killed, and Naruto going up to six-tails in rage. And then the fight scene, which should have been a beautiful moment to express just how much pain Naruto is in gets turned into something out of Tom and Jerry. Compare it to the last time Naruto allowed Kyuubi to take over ad tell me which one is better. Frickin ridiculous. And then we have Pein be instantly forgiven. Admittedly, it's more justified then in a lot of other cases in this series owing to him bringing all of Konoha's citizens back to life. Oh, and then Hinata's confession gets absolutely no resolution. It's times like this when I understand why people drink.
* Tropers/{{HeartlessandSoulless}}: Before the battle with Kakuzu, Kakashi teaches Naruto that doing training while using the kage bunshin jutsu is WAY faster (1 person = 1 hour of training and 1 person + 1 clone = 2 hours of training) and more effective; and if that were not enough, he specifically said that Naruto was the only one that could do it, because he has absurd amounts of chakra (ergo, he already knew about how the Uzumaki lineage/clan was special). I didn't pay this much mind until way after I was done with the manga, but as soon as it hit me, I was like: "[[WhatTheHellHero WHAT THE FUCK, KAKASHI]]? Why the hell didn't you teach this to Naruto before, you bastard? Didn't you thought it would ever be useful?". This is what actually broke the illusion of the Naruto manga to me. Sure, it has its cool moments, but I can never take it seriously as a narrative again.
5th Mar '16 7:06:53 PM HeartlessandSoulless
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* Tropers/{{HeartlessandSoulless}}: Before the battle with Kakuzu, Kakashi teaches Naruto that doing training while using the kage bunshin jutsu is WAY faster (1 person = 1 hour of training and 1 person + 1 clone = 2 hours of training) and more effective; and if that were not enough, he specifically said that Naruto was the only one that could do it, because he has absurd amounts of chakra (ergo, he already knew about how the Uzumaki lineage/clan was special). I didn't pay this much mind until way after I was done with the manga, but as soon as it hit me, I was like: "[[WhatTheHellHero WHAT THE FUCK, KAKASHI]]? Why the hell didn't you teach this to Naruto before, you bastard? Didn't you thought it would ever be useful?". This is what actually broke the illusion of the Naruto manga to me. Sure, it has its cool moments, but I can never take it seriously as a narrative again.
9th Feb '16 7:38:27 AM JediMasterDraco
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* [=JediMasterDraco=]: The last couple episodes of Pein's invasion are pure torture. Up until then, we'd seen Naruto kicking butt and using his brains and then Hinata comes in, not to fight Pein directly, but too fight him off long enough to free Naruto. This leads to her being defeated, almost killed, and Naruto going up to six-tails in rage. And then the fight scene, which should have been a beautiful moment to express just how much pain Naruto is in gets turned into something out of Tom and Jerry. Compare it to the last time Naruto allowed Kyuubi to take over ad tell me which one is better. Frickin ridiculous. And then we have Pein be instantly forgiven. Admittedly, it's more justified then in a lot of other cases in this series owing to him bringing all of Konoha's citizens back to life. Oh, and then Hinata's confession gets absolutely no resolution. It's times like this when I understand why people drink.
6th Feb '16 2:37:23 PM Retloclive
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* Retloclive: The ending of the Pain Invasion arc not acknowledging Hinata's attempt to save Naruto's life. Naruto returns to the village upon defeating Pain, he gets a hug from Sakura while the crowd cheers his return...and Hinata just stands and watches. Ya, [[UngratefulBastard way to be thankful Naruto]].

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* Retloclive: The ending of the Pain Invasion arc not acknowledging Hinata's attempt to save Naruto's life. Naruto returns to the village upon defeating Pain, he gets a hug from Sakura while the crowd cheers his return...and Hinata just stands and watches. Ya, [[UngratefulBastard thanks Kishi, way to be thankful Naruto]].make Naruto come off like an UngratefulBastard.
6th Feb '16 1:34:58 AM Retloclive
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* Retloclive: The ending of the Pain Invasion arc. Earlier, Hinata risked her life to save Naruto from being taken away by Pain. However, after Naruto returns to the village upon defeating Pain, he gets a hug from Sakura while the crowd cheers his return...while Hinata just stands and watches. Ya, [[UngratefulBastard way to be thankful Naruto]].

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* Retloclive: The ending of the Pain Invasion arc. Earlier, Hinata risked her life arc not acknowledging Hinata's attempt to save Naruto from being taken away by Pain. However, after Naruto's life. Naruto returns to the village upon defeating Pain, he gets a hug from Sakura while the crowd cheers his return...while and Hinata just stands and watches. Ya, [[UngratefulBastard way to be thankful Naruto]].
6th Feb '16 1:29:53 AM Retloclive
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%%* Retloclive: The original anime series capping off their run with a plethora of overly-bad {{Filler}} episodes will always be mind-boggling to me since it still ended up not being enough to solve the current issue of giving the manga more breathing room. After the 80+ episodes of filler hell were finally done with, the first canon arcs for Naruto Shippuden ended up suffering some of the worst pacing and animation seen throughout the series anyway, so it just makes you wonder why they the producers didn't just decide to go on hiatus in order to better prepare themselves for the next canon arc.%%


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* Retloclive: The ending of the Pain Invasion arc. Earlier, Hinata risked her life to save Naruto from being taken away by Pain. However, after Naruto returns to the village upon defeating Pain, he gets a hug from Sakura while the crowd cheers his return...while Hinata just stands and watches. Ya, [[UngratefulBastard way to be thankful Naruto]].
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