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Dethroning Moment: Naruto
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Sageheart: The Kyuubi/Kurama being magically just misunderstood the whole time. I don't know about anyone else (and I hope I'm not ranting on a headcanon especially), but to me, the Kyuubi was characterized as a villain, ready to maim and kill indiscriminatly at the drop of a hat - intelligent, yes, friendly or concerned with others, no. It was always portrayed as murderous, vicious, and cruel, only ever helping Naruto to save its own hide. It really rubs me the wrong way that after all of the development towards its villany, the Kyuubi ends up being a good guy tsundere just because Naruto has to be everybody's friend. Its current characterization, and buildup to it, strikes me as forced and bizarre, very much against the character I'd been seeing before.
Lily Nadesico: Narutohyperventilating and fainting like a pushover when he discovers that pretty much everyone is ready to kill Sasuke. And Kishimoto expects us to be understanding towards this Failure Hero and agree with him? That. Is. It. I'm done with Naruto.
Dr HQ: We got a flashback to the struggle with the Kyuubi. We see Kakashi, Gai, Asuma and Kurenai when they were younger, being told to stay behind. Kurenai is specifically told to stay behind so that she can have loads of grandchildren for her father, because she's a woman. He actually says that. No consideration for her choice, just 'you are a woman, have children.' On top of every other sexist thing in this manga this was where I snapped.
Dav Cube: Sakura's Character Derailment. She seemed to be doing well enough for her character before, reacting as one would probably expect for her position, but then the Kage Summit happens and she blows it all to pieces. First, she tries to trick Naruto into stopping his search for Sasuke, which he doesn't fall for and just makes him angry. Second, she then decides to search for him herself, putting her teammates in harms way for her own justified, but still selfish goals. Third, she actually thinks she can trick him once the two finally meet up. Fourth, after almost getting killed by Sasuke for the second time in the course of the story, she stops herself before stabbing him with a kunai because she still can't wrap her head around what he's done. I could imagine maybe unconsciously missing, that would be a good way to write it, but full-on stopping? Bullcrap. And then finally, after Sasuke leaves, she outright states that she can't do anything anymore and has to leave it up to Naruto and Sasuke. In that one fell swoop, aside from her new abilities established at the beginning of Part 2, all her development over nearly 500 chapters is flushed down the toilet. This is why you don't give the distinction of the "embodiment of the weakness of the human heart" to the female lead, Kishimoto.
Animeking1108: The third Naruto movie has this one scene that pisses me off. Similar to the "Arthur's Big Hit" example on the Western Animation page, Naruto finally has it with Hikaru. After one too many insults, Naruto finally grabs the little brat and knocks him on the head. This was a small bop, and the kid starts crying bloody murder. Sakura hears this and uppercuts Naruto. Even though the brat was asking for it, everyone looks at Naruto like he's the bad guy. Naruto is tied up and starved until he apologizes. And just to add insult to injury, Sakura taunts Naruto by holding the food in front of him and eating it. This is especially hypocritical of Sakura since she herself has shown no problems when striking children (Konohamaru, anyone?).
Average NOOB: Look Naruto. I get your an orphan who can pretty much be called emotionally handicapped. I get it. But What. The. Fuck. Dude. Hinata just said she loved you! Give the girl a damn answer! Don't fucking avoid her! Is it really that hard to just say "Sorry to much angst." or "Not now. Sasuke comes first."?
TheDogSage: The Konoha Sports Festival "special". It's basically a long poop joke involving Naruto trying and failing to use the toilet. Shino is uncharacteristically vindictive to Naruto and Chouji is disgusting, rolling through a set of port-a-johns with his jutsu. And the less said about Naruto taking a relay baton up the poop chute, the better. And how does it end? With Naruto finally giving up and pooping himself in front of all his friends. Seriously.
Rayne Cyro: The Great Snake Escape. Let's run through the checklist: Killing off my favorite Akatsuki character not named Pain? Check. Having him die pointlessly? Check. Having him lose to Sasuke? Check. Having Sasuke win by breaking the established rules of canon and pulling off something that shouldn't be possible for even the Fourth Hokage? Check.
Super Saiyaman: One word Izanami in Itachi's skillset and power. Kishimoto officially made him a God Mode Sue and sucked any and all tension out of the Sasuke and Itachi vs. Kabuto fight, as well as reduced Kabuto, who was outsmarting and out gambitting TOBI of all people look like a blithering moron. Even worse now that how Izanami works has been explained. On why Izanami is an ass pull- it had zero foreshadowing. No, Izanagi's mere existence doesn't count for it. Not only that, there had to be a retcon for Itachi to even have Izanami (when it was established that only Uchiha who gained Senju DNA could use Izanagi) by Itachi claiming there were 'Izanagi Wars'. Third, its useless against almost anyone except for Izanagi users and people like Kabuto.I
KantonKage: Madarapossessing the Mokuton and Rinnegan in addition to the EMS in a span of a few chapters and you thought Itachi was bad. Especially when the former Kage was simply worfed for Naruto and Gaara's Character Development. Primarily, when A wanted to go out and fight his father, he was stopped. Guess what he also know how to cancel Edo Tensei too. Also Kabuto and Nagato gets Stuffed in the Fridge. Tobi even struggles a little. It's gotten up to the point that, I'm shocked that he didn't succeed at summoning Kurama from inside Naruto. In chapter 613 it's has reached all time low. It's practically screams that only Uchiha Madara is the only credible threat now and only he can kill major characters.
ajr1218: Tobi's true identity. Note that I am not spoiling this as the answer is so goddamn obvious and so base-breaking that it almost ruined the entire series for me (and I enjoy this series a lot). A while ago, I posted my guess in the Wild Mass Guessing page (The Juubi's spirit manifested into a human being), yet the less plausible, more obvious answer was declared canon. Congrats, Kishimoto, you have a lot of freakin' explaining to do.
Mic1988: For me way back in the Chunin Exams there was a Dethroning Moment. During the Exams we know That The Sound Trio Team is ordered to kill Sasuke right? We all know how that played out when Sasuke awoke with The Cursed Seal. Later on in the Exams, one of them Dosu Kinuta realizes that he and his teammates had been setup by Orochimaru and they had been played for fools. After beating Choji (Which showed his abilities as not to be underestimated as he Curb Stomped him.) He makes a silent vow to show to Orochimaru that he is not someone who can be tossed aside. So what does he do? Tell a Leaf Nin or a Reasonable Authority Figure that Orochimaru is the ruler of the Sound Village and is planning something? Save Zaku and Kin his teammates and thwart his Edo Tensei plans? Be a wildcard that none of the people who watch or read Naruto can guess who's side his's on? Wrong...he goes off and challenges Gaara and gets killed in under five seconds. What. Here we have a guy who is shown to care somewhat for his teammates (vowing to defeat Shino for crippling Zaku for example) and could show that even bad guys care for their teammates and comrades. Instead he gets killed pointlessly and goes to show that the Sound Nins are all evil murderers and psychopaths with few if any redeeming qualities.
ncfan: An odd one, I know, but the number of deaths that have occurred in chapters 613 and 614. Yeah, it's war, so there's gonna be death, but just the abruptness of it strikes me as being the result of Kishimoto having looked over his work and realized that no one with a name's died yet, and that in his outline, no one with a name does die. It's just too little, too late.
Caellach Tiger Eye: While I was kind of glad that people are finally dying (making it feel like there are consequences to the war), I have to agree. This is worse than J. K. Rowling and her HP Book 7 bloodbath - at least there, the fights were smattered across the book and it was where the action really began. Here, no major character dies at all until the Ten-Tails is revived, and suddenly people are quickly dropping like flies because their character arcs/role is finished. I'm not sure whether I'm more annoyed with Naruto for this, or with Bleach for its incessant use of No One Could Survive That (at least those were spaced out more)... It's sad that Kishimoto couldn't find the right compromise within the Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism and had to resort to a nigh-unstoppable Eldritch Abomination to actually have the guts to kill off anyone. Considering the major deaths prior to this were well-handled and balanced (ie: Hayate, Sarutobi, Asuma, Jiraiya, Konan), it's more than a little bit jarring.
Super Saiyan 006: Minato abandoning Naruto and claiming that without Kushina he was nothing and unfit to raise a child. What... And Kushiha agreeing with him on doing it. Double What. Those two not only abandoned their less than an hour old infant son but did it with a smile on their faces, while knowingly condemning him to the life of a jinchuuriki, which they both know will force him to live a terrible life!
Omega Radiance:The whole Uchihas-love-more-than-anyone-else, and hatred basically being genetic as a result via the Sharingan. Not only is it a easy excuse for why we're supposed to forgive Sasuke, but it also invalidates Obito as Naruto's evil counterpart - even with Naruto's own formerly-believed-to-be-evil entity inside him, his isn't given the excuse of it being genetic. Not to mention that all Uchihas seem to get them sooner or later, pretty much making the Second Hokage right in his views that they should be exterminated sooner or later. Even Itachi shows that his love drove him to do countless things that broke Sasuke out of love. With a entire clan of unstable people who could go off the deep end from something as simple as their dog dying, it honestly makes it hard to see anything wrong with the total annihilation of them all. The only one who seemed to truly be sane compared to other Uchihas is Itachi's best friend Shisui Uchiha, and he kills himself and gives Itachi his eye after his plan to brainwash the Uchiha leaders into cooperating with the village failed.
Ashleybud: Chapter 619 is a definite Dethroning Moment Of Suck for me. I really hate Sasuke at this point and am getting real tired of Naruto in general which is sad because Masashi Kishimoto is a great writer but this Creator's Pet thing he has for Sasuke to the point of completely ignoring and rewriting canon in an effort to make him likeable. You've taken his character to a point where happily making up is literally impossible accept it and move on. But what really makes this a DMTS is this notion of the Uchiha gaining their power because they love too much. No other clan treasured love like the Uchiha is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. There is nothing, absolutely nothing to support this in fact evidence proves the complete opposite. First let’s take a look at the requirements for the Mangekyo Sharingan, the first one we as the audience were told was that the Mangekyō Sharingan is awakened through the trauma experienced from the death of the person closest to the Sharingan user. With the user normally having to witness or experience this first hand, Uchiha throughout history have killed the person closest to them in order to expedite this process. To obtain the Mangekyō Sharingan, one must feel the emotion of losing a friend or family, as merely killing them or watching them die will not activate it. That’s not love being tainted that is killing a loved one in order to gain power. Then to gain the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan you have to take and transplant the Mangekyō of another Uchiha — integrating the two pairs of eyes in the process. Once again a sign of the Uchiha selfishly sacrificing a loved one to obtain power because the tighter the blood ties are between the "donor" and the "receiver", the better it is for compatibility — a sibling for example seems to make the best donor. And they only do this because over time, use of the Mangekyō Sharingan's techniques deteriorates the user's eyesight to the point of blindness. So not only do they abuse the power they gain from sacrificing a loved one to the point of killing themselves they just sacrifice another one. And when you think about it the Uchiha rebelling because they were forced to live in separate quarters doesn’t make sense because every bloodlimit clan lives in there own separate areas in order to practice there techniques in secrets. They lived in opulent mansions, could continue to be ninja and ninja police, even a few being a Hokage Candidate's student. Hell even Madara's story falls apart when we realize there WAS a Hokage Candidate who was a Uchiha in Hiruzen's time. Them wanting more governmental power falls on its face when they run the police. Heck this entire war is because 1. Tobi wants revenge and 2. Madara want’s to erase the fact that he lost from the face of the earth. It’s pretty obvious Sasuke is going to be forgiven somehow but at least make it believable. If the third told Sasuke that the curse of the Uchiha was that they were entitled assholes who beilieve everything should be handed to them. When their not strong enough they take the skill from their opponent, when that isn’t enough they kill a love one for power. When they abuse that power they do it again. If that doesn’t work they bend reality to their wishes. And finally when that doesn’t prove enough they seal opponent within their own mind. The Uchiha were willing to kill thousands upon thousands of innocent people because they felt they weren’t given enough and Sasuke’s actions up to now proves that the third made the right decision. Sorry about the rant but I was so pissed that it took a while to put my thoughts into words.
Megacles: Karin forgiving Sasuke was easily the worst part of it. We all kinda knew Sasuke was going to Heel Face Turn at some point (albeit we thought Naruto was going to be the one to do it). But Karin? I admired her greatly when she resolved to let go of Sasuke. And her breaking out of jail by acting Tsundere? Awesome. But instantly falling back in love with Sasuke after a brief "I'm sorry"? Words cannot even describe how awful that is. I'm personally crossing my fingers that she plans to knife him in the back, but I doubt it at this point.
Animeking1108: Even in the parody Spin-Off of Naruto, Studio Peirott manages to fuck up the fillers. Episode 6 of Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth was a Sports Festival episode. During the scavenger hunt, it started off hilarious enough (Lee summoning a demon, Neji looking for a ghost), but they completely ruin it by Naruto's turn, where it was implied that he had to take Sakura's panties. First off, Sakura, being herflandirized filler counterpart, completely ignored that it was beyond Naruto's controll and still struck him. Second, the next scene where it shows her healing him and then saying it was the lottery's fault was completely contradictory. Finally, Tsunade was sadistic enough to put Naruto in that type of situation? Fuck Studio Peirott! Fuck their character derailment! Fuck their fillers! They can't even get a comical spoof such as the Rock Lee series right without making such Wall Bangers!
KantonKage: Chapter 9 was simply turning Hinata into The Chew Toy, she gets peed on, having multiple people crash into her, she's also in her Ascended FanonFlanderization meaning she passes out when she sees Naruto at the end. Who gets attacked by Neji for no reason.
Lightflame: Chapter 599 and on. Tobi is Obito. This so-called twist was mind-numbingly obvious, and yet it was dragged out for another year after people already figured it out hundreds of chapters beforehand. Not to mention how lazy it is. We've already had "what Naruto could have been" in the form of Gaara and Nagato, and both were well-done. Obito has nothing new to bring to the table, making the story repetitive instead of adding a cool twist like the reveal of the man behind the mask should have done. In fact, he's more like Konohamaru than he is like Naruto, causing his "what Naruto could have been" shtick to fall completely flat. Also, since he has no connection to Naruto himself as Obito, the focus of the story is dragged away from the main character, while Obito himself ends up feeling more like a lackey. The explanation of the event was an overly long flashback, which was poorly written and required a retcon about "magical hate chakra" for it to make any kind of sense. And did I mention that it wrecks the story thematically? Obito showed that your heritage didn't define you, but making him turn evil changes the series-spanning aesop of "You can defy your heritage and choose your own fate" into "Trying to change your fate is completely meaningless, as you will always be an echo of your family." Meanwhile, it invalidates Kakashi's childhood Character Development, because if he had completed the mission instead of protecting his comrades then Obito would have died, giving Naruto an actual family, creating the possibility of Minato preventing the Uchiha Massacre, making the Mist a better place because its leader wasn't under mind control, letting the Moon's Eye Plan die with Madara, stopping Nagato from being as crazy and evil, and averting a world war. I am not exaggerating when I say that Obito is actually the worst possible character to be behind the mask. Sorry for the wall of spoiler text. I had to get that out.
Shadow200: Blame whoever wrote the script for that, probably the same person who did the goddamn two year long filler as well as the third movie. Sakura always get the short end of the stick when it comes to the movies. News flash Kishimoto, boosting their negative traits and making characters into Obnoxious idiots is not funny it's stupid and takes away from the product. Then again he probably wouldn't know with all the Character Derailment he's done as he's forgotten what the hell the Series was about in the first place in favor of his preferred characters.
