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6th Jan '16 2:08:53 PM FF32
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* Tropers/{{theenglishman}}: There's one absolutely groan-worthy moment in ''[[LANoire L.A. Noire]]'' during a flashback to [[PlayerCharacter Cole Phelps]]' memories of [[WorldWarTwo Okinawa]]. Cole, then a Marine officer, is trying to control his squad's bloodthirsty desire for Japanese casualties, and asks them why they're even fighting the Japanese in the first place. One says it's because the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour, but Cole responds that the Japanese attacked Pearl because the US had cut off their oil supply to Japan. Then, [[AsideGlance with almost a wink at the audience]], he wonders what they would all think [[TheWarOnTerror if the US ever invaded another country for their own lack of oil.]] Realistic or not, it was such an awfully blatant TakeThat that it ruined the entire scene. That being said, the rest of the game is so amazing that the amount of damage caused by this ultimate moment of suck is minimal at worst.

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* Tropers/{{theenglishman}}: There's one absolutely groan-worthy moment in ''[[LANoire ''[[VideoGame/LANoire L.A. Noire]]'' during a flashback to [[PlayerCharacter Cole Phelps]]' memories of [[WorldWarTwo Okinawa]]. Cole, then a Marine officer, is trying to control his squad's bloodthirsty desire for Japanese casualties, and asks them why they're even fighting the Japanese in the first place. One says it's because the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbour, but Cole responds that the Japanese attacked Pearl because the US had cut off their oil supply to Japan. Then, [[AsideGlance with almost a wink at the audience]], he wonders what they would all think [[TheWarOnTerror if the US ever invaded another country for their own lack of oil.]] Realistic or not, it was such an awfully blatant TakeThat that it ruined the entire scene. That being said, the rest of the game is so amazing that the amount of damage caused by this ultimate moment of suck is minimal at worst.
7th Nov '15 5:30:10 PM nombretomado
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* Tropers/CynicalBastardo: [[spoiler: Cole's death]] left a sour taste in my mouth, because, unlike [[spoiler:John Marston's HeroicSacrifice]] in ''RedDeadRedemption'', there's no real reason for it to happen. The flooding of the sewers comes across as a DiabolusExMachina that seems tacked on for drama.

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* Tropers/CynicalBastardo: [[spoiler: Cole's death]] left a sour taste in my mouth, because, unlike [[spoiler:John Marston's HeroicSacrifice]] in ''RedDeadRedemption'', ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption'', there's no real reason for it to happen. The flooding of the sewers comes across as a DiabolusExMachina that seems tacked on for drama.
18th Aug '15 10:52:49 AM Naoto_best_waifu
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** Tropers/{{Naoto_best_waifu}}: Not to mention they act like America was in the wrong for not giving Japan (one of our allies enemies) access to a very useful wartime resource. America not giving a hostile enemy country oil does not justify them comitting a sneak attack on oblivious sailors that costed 2500 people their lives.

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** Tropers/{{Naoto_best_waifu}}: Tropers/{{Naoto_Best_Waifu}}: Not to mention they act like America was in the wrong for not giving Japan (one of our allies enemies) access to a very useful wartime resource. America not giving a hostile enemy country oil does not justify them comitting a sneak attack on oblivious sailors that costed 2500 people their lives.
18th Aug '15 10:49:22 AM Naoto_best_waifu
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** Tropers/{{Naoto_best_waifu}}: Not to mention they act like America was in the wrong for not giving Japan (one of our allies enemies) access to a very useful wartime resource. America not giving a hostile enemy country oil does not justify them comitting a sneak attack on oblivious sailors that costed 2500 people their lives.
1st Jul '15 10:53:56 AM Midna
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** Tropers/{{Bastard1}}: Throwing in my vote for "The Quarter Moon Killings" (and, by virtue of retroactiveness, the entire Homicide desk) simply because of the writers' complete ineptitude in handling the Black Dahlia case. When you invoke BD, a certain level of professionalism is expected. Reduced to being a part of a string of murders (whose Modus operandi in no way fits the pattern of what was done to Ms. Short) perpetrated by your dimestore "deranged killer doing God's work" cliche is a disservice to the departed Ms. Short. At best, it's a crutch for writers forced to drum up some publicity for a long-gestating work stuck in DevelopmentHell; at worst, it's cynical exploitation of a true crime case by inept hacks. And [[SarcasmMode as the icing on the cake]], due to the killer's connections to some bigwig, it's being hushed up and besides your having solved some grievous murders and prevented future ones, all your work was for ''nothing'' seeing as how neither the public nor surviving relatives will ever know! And that, right there, is why I had to take month-long break from this game. [[AndThatsTerrible And I never do that]]. That oughta tell you something.

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** Tropers/{{Bastard1}}: Throwing in my vote for "The Quarter Moon Killings" (and, by virtue of retroactiveness, the entire Homicide desk) simply because of the writers' complete ineptitude in handling the Black Dahlia case. When you invoke BD, a certain level of professionalism is expected. Reduced to being a part of a string of murders (whose Modus operandi in no way fits the pattern of what was done to Ms. Short) perpetrated by your dimestore "deranged killer doing God's work" cliche is a disservice to the departed Ms. Short. At best, it's a crutch for writers forced to drum up some publicity for a long-gestating work stuck in DevelopmentHell; at worst, it's cynical exploitation of a true crime case by inept hacks. And [[SarcasmMode as the icing on the cake]], due to the killer's connections to some bigwig, it's being hushed up and besides your having solved some grievous murders and prevented future ones, all your work was for ''nothing'' nothing seeing as how neither the public nor surviving relatives will ever know! And that, right there, is why I had to take month-long break from this game. [[AndThatsTerrible And I never do that]]. That oughta tell you something.
29th Mar '15 7:02:46 PM Bastard1
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** Tropers/{{Bastard1}}: Throwing in my vote for "The Quarter Moon Killings" (and, by virtue of retroactiveness, the entire Homicide desk) simply because of the writers' complete ineptitude in handling the Black Dahlia case. When you invoke BD, a certain level of professionalism is expected. Reduced to being a part of a string of murders (whose Modus operandi in no way fits the pattern of what was done to Ms. Short) perpetrated by your dimestore "deranged killer doing God's work" cliche is a disservice to the departed Ms. Short. At best, it's a crutch for writers forced to drum up some publicity for a long-gestating work stuck in DevelopmentHell; at worst, it's cynical exploitation of a true crime case by inept hacks. And [[SarcasmMode as the icing on the cake]], due to the killer's connections to some bigwig, it's being hushed up and besides your having solved some grievous murders and prevented future ones, all your work was for ''nothing'' seeing as how neither the public nor surviving relatives will ever know! And that, right there, is why I had to take month-long break from this game. [[AndThatsTerrible And I never do that]]. That oughta tell you something.
29th Mar '15 2:07:09 AM Kimarous
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* Tropers/CynicalBastardo: [[spoiler: Cole's death]] left a sour taste in my mouth, because, unlike [[spoiler:John Marston's HeroicSacrifice]] in ''RedDeadRedemption'', there's no real reason for it to happen. The flooding of the sewers comes across as a DiablosExMachina that seems tacked on for drama.

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* Tropers/CynicalBastardo: [[spoiler: Cole's death]] left a sour taste in my mouth, because, unlike [[spoiler:John Marston's HeroicSacrifice]] in ''RedDeadRedemption'', there's no real reason for it to happen. The flooding of the sewers comes across as a DiablosExMachina DiabolusExMachina that seems tacked on for drama.
26th Feb '15 7:07:14 PM maxwellsilver
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* Tropers/CynicalBastardo: [[spoiler: Cole's death]] left a sour taste in my mouth, because, unlike [[spoiler:John Marston's HeroicSacrifice]]]] in ''RedDeadRedemption'', there's no real reason for it to happen. The flooding of the sewers comes across as a DiablosExMachina that seems tacked on for drama.

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* Tropers/CynicalBastardo: [[spoiler: Cole's death]] left a sour taste in my mouth, because, unlike [[spoiler:John Marston's HeroicSacrifice]]]] HeroicSacrifice]] in ''RedDeadRedemption'', there's no real reason for it to happen. The flooding of the sewers comes across as a DiablosExMachina that seems tacked on for drama.
26th Feb '15 7:06:57 PM maxwellsilver
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* Tropers/{{Regu}}: The end off the homicide storyline ended on a very sour note that left a bad taste in my mouth. To elaborate, you spend an entire case figuring out who the Werewolf killer is and where he's hiding. The case itself is thrilling and makes you think by reading excerpts from famous poems to discover the next clue. After going through a maze, walking over the tar pits, climbing a to the very top of the library tower, and most dangerously, tight rope walking to a chandelier that is very high up to find a clue, and then almost falling with it when it collapses, you find the killer at an abandoned church. after a rather lackluster chase, [[spoiler:you kill the Werewolf, only to have the Captain Donnoly tell you that his identity can't reveled to the public and the case will be closed... simply because the guy is the half-brother of a influential politician.]] The only good part is that the people whom you've wrongly accused are set free.

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* Tropers/{{Regu}}: The end off of the homicide storyline ended on a very sour note that left a bad taste in my mouth. To elaborate, you spend an entire case figuring out who the Werewolf killer is and where he's hiding. The case itself is thrilling and makes you think by reading excerpts from famous poems to discover the next clue. After going through a maze, walking over the tar pits, climbing a to the very top of the library tower, and most dangerously, tight rope walking to a chandelier that is very high up to find a clue, and then almost falling with it when it collapses, you find the killer at an abandoned church. after a rather lackluster chase, [[spoiler:you kill the Werewolf, only to have the Captain Donnoly tell you that his identity can't reveled to the public and the case will be closed... simply because the guy is the half-brother of a influential politician.]] The only good part is that the people whom you've wrongly accused are set free.



* Tropers/CynicalBastardo: [[spoiler: Cole's death]] left a sour taste in my mouth, because, unlike John Marston's HeroicSacrifice in ''RedDeadRedemption'', there's no real reason for it to happen. The flooding of the sewers comes across as a DiablosExMachina that seems tacked on for drama.

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* Tropers/CynicalBastardo: [[spoiler: Cole's death]] left a sour taste in my mouth, because, unlike John [[spoiler:John Marston's HeroicSacrifice HeroicSacrifice]]]] in ''RedDeadRedemption'', there's no real reason for it to happen. The flooding of the sewers comes across as a DiablosExMachina that seems tacked on for drama.
27th Sep '14 4:07:56 AM CynicalBastardo
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* Illuminatus: Manifest Destiny. [[spoiler: The LA media learns at the beginning that the LAPD has been taking payoffs from a madam and basically running their own prostitution ring. Desperate to get out from under this, they jump at the opportunity to smear Cole when Roy Earle reveals Cole's affair.]] The problem is, the case itself is the climax of the side plot wherein [[spoiler:Cole's former Marine underlings get so furious with his success that they rob the Army of crates of guns and drugs and become gangsters of their own - butting heads with the real-life Mickey Cohen. The case itself is a citywide bloodbath as Cohen tries to assassinate the Marines all at once, including attacking a public bus with a machine gun and murdering two of them right on the red carpet at the Chinese Theater. You also learn that the mafia has a mole inside the LAPD who fed them these names, leading to the deaths of most of Cole's old unit and indirectly to the death of several cops. Finally, the case reaches its high point when Cole arrests and confronts Courtney Sheldon, the mastermind of the heist and the man who shot him in the back on Okinawa, only for Capt. Donnelly to interrupt this pivotal scene to berate you for the affair and demote you to Arson.]] Almost none of these massive plot threads are mentioned again.

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* Illuminatus: Manifest Destiny. [[spoiler: The LA media learns at the beginning that the LAPD has been taking payoffs from a madam and basically running their own prostitution ring. Desperate to get out from under this, they jump at the opportunity to smear Cole when Roy Earle reveals Cole's affair.]] The problem is, the case itself is the climax of the side plot wherein [[spoiler:Cole's former Marine underlings get so furious with his success that they rob the Army of crates of guns and drugs and become gangsters of their own - butting heads with the real-life Mickey Cohen. The case itself is a citywide bloodbath as Cohen tries to assassinate the Marines all at once, including attacking a public bus with a machine gun and murdering two of them right on the red carpet at the Chinese Theater. You also learn that the mafia has a mole inside the LAPD who fed them these names, leading to the deaths of most of Cole's old unit and indirectly to the death of several cops. Finally, the case reaches its high point when Cole arrests and confronts Courtney Sheldon, the mastermind of the heist and the man who shot him in the back on Okinawa, only for Capt. Donnelly to interrupt this pivotal scene to berate you for the affair and demote you to Arson.]] Almost none of these massive plot threads are mentioned again.again.
* Tropers/CynicalBastardo: [[spoiler: Cole's death]] left a sour taste in my mouth, because, unlike John Marston's HeroicSacrifice in ''RedDeadRedemption'', there's no real reason for it to happen. The flooding of the sewers comes across as a DiablosExMachina that seems tacked on for drama.
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