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13th Jun '16 12:32:48 AM DrY9K
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13th Jun '16 12:31:55 AM DrY9K
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** PS; one of the things mentioned is that F. Miller's "Unauthorized Biography" of Catwoman has Batman wielding a gun and killing people. Which Batman, originally, did do. Normally, it'd be an amusing MythologyGag, but here it comes off as blaming Miller for something that wasn't his fault. [[note]]Batman does use a gun briefly in TDKR...to save the life of someone being held hostage. It's not clear whether he actually kills the hostage-taker. The only other time he uses a gun in that story is in order to fire a tightrope line. Eventually, he says the Sons of Batman will not use guns, period.[[/note]]

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** PS; one of the things mentioned is that F. Miller's "Unauthorized Biography" of Catwoman has Batman wielding a gun and killing people. Which Batman, originally, did do. Normally, it'd be an amusing MythologyGag, but here it comes off as blaming Miller for something that wasn't his fault. [[note]]Batman does use a gun briefly in TDKR...to save the life of someone being held hostage. It's not clear whether he actually kills the hostage-taker. The only other time he uses a gun in that story is in order to fire a tightrope line. Eventually, he says the Sons of Batman will not use guns, period.[[/note]][[/note]]
* DrY9K: The VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys2 fanfic [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10831245/1/A-Couple-of-Misfits A Couple of Misfits]] would be decent if it didn't decide to keep Foxy as an [[spoiler:UndeadChild]] as he is in the game, and portray Mangle as a non-[[spoiler:possessed]] robot. The author decides Foxy being a [[spoiler:murder victim]] isn't important and what is important is that he and Mangle become close friends/lovers, essentially making the story a case of "[[spoiler:[[{{Squick}} dead child X soulless, deteriorating robot]]]]," and yet the author thinks this is [[DudeNotFunny cute]]?!?
24th May '16 10:42:40 AM cricri3007
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** PS; one of the things mentioned is that F. Miller's "Unauthorized Biography" of Catwoman has Batman wielding a gun and killing people. Which Batman, originally, did do. Normally, it'd be an amusing MythologyGag, but here it comes off as blaming Miller for something that wasn't his fault. [[note]]Batman does use a gun briefly in TDKR...to save the life of someone being held hostage. It's not clear whether he actually kills the hostage-taker. The only other time he uses a gun in that story is in order to fire a tightrope line. Eventually, he says the Sons of Batman will not use guns, period.[[/note]]
* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8817260/19/Digital-Doctor Digital Doctor]]'', a ''Series/DoctorWho''[=/=]''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' crossover, is awesome, had me completely hooked and I loved it. That is, until the ending. Spoilers herafter. So, XANA (in this story, a TARDIS mutated into the SuperComputer) is destoryed, but a figment of her managed to possess Aelita and almost kills her but, Aelita being a half TimeLord, regenerates (something that, being part human, shouldn't be possible) into an adult woman and, in order to give her a "normal" life, the Doctor [[LaserGuidedAmnesia erase her memory of everything related to XANA]], including all her adventures with the other kids. Talk about a downer.

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** PS; one of the things mentioned is that F. Miller's "Unauthorized Biography" of Catwoman has Batman wielding a gun and killing people. Which Batman, originally, did do. Normally, it'd be an amusing MythologyGag, but here it comes off as blaming Miller for something that wasn't his fault. [[note]]Batman does use a gun briefly in TDKR...to save the life of someone being held hostage. It's not clear whether he actually kills the hostage-taker. The only other time he uses a gun in that story is in order to fire a tightrope line. Eventually, he says the Sons of Batman will not use guns, period.[[/note]]
* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8817260/19/Digital-Doctor Digital Doctor]]'', a ''Series/DoctorWho''[=/=]''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' crossover, is awesome, had me completely hooked and I loved it. That is, until the ending. Spoilers herafter. So, XANA (in this story, a TARDIS mutated into the SuperComputer) is destoryed, but a figment of her managed to possess Aelita and almost kills her but, Aelita being a half TimeLord, regenerates (something that, being part human, shouldn't be possible) into an adult woman and, in order to give her a "normal" life, the Doctor [[LaserGuidedAmnesia erase her memory of everything related to XANA]], including all her adventures with the other kids. Talk about a downer.
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21st May '16 5:43:58 AM cricri3007
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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8817260/19/Digital-Doctor Digital Doctor]]'', a ''Series/DoctorWho''[=/=]''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' crossover, is awesome, had me completely hooked and I loved it. That is, until the ending. Spoilers herafter. So, XANA (in this story, a TARDIS mutated into the SuperComputer) is destoryed, but a figment of her managed to possess Aelita and almost kills her but, Aelita being a half TimeLord, regenerates (something that, being part human, shouldn't be possible) into an adult woman and, in order to give her a "normal" life, the Doctor [[LaserGuidedAmnesia erase her memory of everything related to XANA]], including all her adventures wit the other kids. Talk about a downer.

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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8817260/19/Digital-Doctor Digital Doctor]]'', a ''Series/DoctorWho''[=/=]''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' crossover, is awesome, had me completely hooked and I loved it. That is, until the ending. Spoilers herafter. So, XANA (in this story, a TARDIS mutated into the SuperComputer) is destoryed, but a figment of her managed to possess Aelita and almost kills her but, Aelita being a half TimeLord, regenerates (something that, being part human, shouldn't be possible) into an adult woman and, in order to give her a "normal" life, the Doctor [[LaserGuidedAmnesia erase her memory of everything related to XANA]], including all her adventures wit with the other kids. Talk about a downer.
19th May '16 5:31:11 AM cricri3007
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** PS; one of the things mentioned is that F. Miller's "Unauthorized Biography" of Catwoman has Batman wielding a gun and killing people. Which Batman, originally, did do. Normally, it'd be an amusing MythologyGag, but here it comes off as blaming Miller for something that wasn't his fault. [[note]]Batman does use a gun briefly in TDKR...to save the life of someone being held hostage. It's not clear whether he actually kills the hostage-taker. The only other time he uses a gun in that story is in order to fire a tightrope line. Eventually, he says the Sons of Batman will not use guns, period.[[/note]]

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** PS; one of the things mentioned is that F. Miller's "Unauthorized Biography" of Catwoman has Batman wielding a gun and killing people. Which Batman, originally, did do. Normally, it'd be an amusing MythologyGag, but here it comes off as blaming Miller for something that wasn't his fault. [[note]]Batman does use a gun briefly in TDKR...to save the life of someone being held hostage. It's not clear whether he actually kills the hostage-taker. The only other time he uses a gun in that story is in order to fire a tightrope line. Eventually, he says the Sons of Batman will not use guns, period.[[/note]][[/note]]
* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8817260/19/Digital-Doctor Digital Doctor]]'', a ''Series/DoctorWho''[=/=]''WesternAnimation/CodeLyoko'' crossover, is awesome, had me completely hooked and I loved it. That is, until the ending. Spoilers herafter. So, XANA (in this story, a TARDIS mutated into the SuperComputer) is destoryed, but a figment of her managed to possess Aelita and almost kills her but, Aelita being a half TimeLord, regenerates (something that, being part human, shouldn't be possible) into an adult woman and, in order to give her a "normal" life, the Doctor [[LaserGuidedAmnesia erase her memory of everything related to XANA]], including all her adventures wit the other kids. Talk about a downer.
25th Apr '16 7:31:45 AM SystemCellar
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* Tropers/Candycane14: What did [[Franchise/TheSmurfs Handy ever do to deserve the SlashFic "I Love you Handy"?! Even as a slash fan I hate this fic... I like Handy because he's a smart inventor and, although he isn't physically strong like Hefty, he has courage. All of which thrown out the window as he suffers the worst form of {{Wimpification}} in the fic. There are a lot of UnfortunateImplications -- if you're best friends with someone, it means you wanna have constant sodomy with them, Rape Equals Love, girl's first choices are hot muscled guys, and more I'll get to below. Furthermore, Papa Smurf reveals at one point that Handy and Hefty are brothers -- [[IncestYayShipping guess who the slashed couple are]]. The worst part? After Handy gets lost in the forest (as a result of being handled the IdiotBall) and is caught by Gargamel, Hefty and the other smurfs manage to save him, but Hefty gets gravely injured and dies. What does Handy do? He blames Greedy for not coming to help sooner and attacks him. Uh, no, prick! It's your own fault for not listening to Papa's advice to stay out of the woods, getting lost into the forest without preparing anything for support, and getting captured! And the whiny, spoiled little shit gets away with it! Over the next few chapters Handy doesn't do anything but cry. And then the fic pulls an AssPull of epic proportions: Hefty is brought back to life ''because of'' all Handy's crying... This in a fic which was co-written by two authors who get lots of praise for it! This fic made me quit the Smurfs fandom.

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* Tropers/Candycane14: What did [[Franchise/TheSmurfs Handy Handy]] ever do to deserve the SlashFic "I Love you Handy"?! Even as a slash fan I hate this fic... I like Long story short, Handy because he's a smart inventor and, although he isn't physically strong like Hefty, he has courage. All of which thrown out the window as he suffers the worst form of {{Wimpification}} in the fic. There fic as he gets into a relationship with Hefty (who, by the way, [[IncestYayShipping are revealed to be brothers by Papa Smurf]]). Furthermore, there are a lot of UnfortunateImplications -- if you're best friends with someone, it means you wanna have constant sodomy with them, Rape Equals Love, girl's first choices are hot muscled guys, and more I'll get to below. Furthermore, Papa Smurf reveals at one point that Handy and Hefty are brothers -- [[IncestYayShipping guess who Now, toward the slashed couple are]]. The worst part? After Handy gets lost in end of the forest (as a result of being handled the IdiotBall) and is caught by Gargamel, Hefty and the other smurfs manage to save him, but fic, Hefty gets gravely injured when trying to save Handy from Gargamel and dies. What does Handy do? He blames Greedy for not coming to help sooner and attacks him. Uh, no, prick! It's your own fault for [[IdiotBall not listening to Papa's advice to stay out of the woods, getting lost into the forest without preparing anything for support, and getting captured! And the whiny, spoiled little shit gets away with it! captured]]! Over the next few chapters Handy doesn't do anything but cry. And then the fic pulls an AssPull of epic proportions: Hefty is brought back to life ''because of'' all Handy's crying... This crying. ... And what's worse, this in a fic which was co-written by two authors who get lots of praise for it! This fic made me quit the Smurfs fandom.it.



I'll make it as simple as I can: Buttercup bets her soul during a poker game with Him and looses. Bubbles begs Him to take her instead, leading to a deal that if Bubbles stays with Him as a pet for a week, the bet is off and Buttercup's free. Okay? Okay. So a little later, Bubbles goes with Him to Hell and gets a rundown of the rules of this agreement, etc, and then is left to have a rest for the night before starting her "duties" the next day.\\
So, what awaits her the next day? Him insists she stays stark naked, wears a collar and leash like a dog, eats/ sleeps on the floor just like an animal, and only refers to Him as "Master". Yeah...but it gets worse. Later on Him forces Bubbles to get in the tub for a bath with him, and she of course hesitates. This pisses off Him, who forces Bubbles to give him a hand job as a punishment. Bubbles is of course upset but Him angrily insists that he is not asking her to give him her virginity, so she should essentially shut up and do what he says. Uh- okay, if you force someone to give you sexual pleasure against their will, [[PunctuatedForEmphasis that. Is. Rape.]] Intercourse or not. Wanna see it get worse? Later we get the same situation with the bath again, but Bubbles goes through with it out of fear. Him insists on washing her and violating her personal space until she's (justifiably) certain this will lead to rape. Him once again insists he will not rape her. RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, after all. [[SarcasmMode But--it's a-okay if he simply manhandles her a little for kicks as long as it's not the direct act of sex.]] Oh, and it doesn't end there. [[StockholmSyndrome Later Bubbles has started to fall for Him,]] and her time is almost up and she can go back home in a few days. Now, does Him reveal that the whole "Take Me Instead and use me like a Pet" is a big supernatural contract that was out of Him's control to change the rules of, and they both had to get through it on those terms whether either of them agreed to them or not? Nope. Him reveals that this was all just a clever little scheme he put together to trick innocent little Bubbles into falling for/ trusting him. So is Bubbles pissed out of her mind since all the humiliation and molestation she went through was just a trick and proceeds to kick his demonic ass? Oh no, she's just a little insulted. Look, Bubbles might be the most kindhearted and understanding of the Girls, but she is certainly is not this kind of a pushover! I won't use up the rest of this page typing out the ending or the stuff that comes after this. The thing that gets me is that these plot elements make the moral come off as: "If someone forces you to be a glorified SexSlave that = True Love!!" and "Rape is only if someone forces intercourse on you, not any other type of touching or sexual contact against your will." The fic is supposed to be darkly romantic, but this comes across as deeply disturbing.

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I'll make it as simple as I can: Buttercup bets her soul during a poker game with Him and looses.loses. Bubbles begs Him to take her instead, leading to a deal that if Bubbles stays with Him as a pet for a week, the bet is off and Buttercup's free. Okay? Okay. So a little later, Bubbles goes with Him to Hell and gets a rundown of the rules of this agreement, etc, and then is left to have a rest for the night before starting her "duties" the next day.\\
So, what awaits her the next day? Him insists she stays stark naked, wears a collar and leash like a dog, eats/ sleeps on the floor just like an animal, and only refers to Him as "Master". Yeah...but it gets worse.
Later on on, Him forces Bubbles to get in the tub for a bath with him, and she of course hesitates. This pisses off Him, who forces Bubbles to give him a hand job as a punishment. Bubbles is of course upset but Him angrily insists that he is not asking her to give him her virginity, so she should essentially shut up and do what he says. Uh- okay, if you force someone to give you sexual pleasure against their will, [[PunctuatedForEmphasis that. Is. Rape.]] Intercourse or not. Wanna see it get worse? Later we get the same situation with the bath again, but Bubbles goes through with it out of fear. Him insists on washing her and violating her personal space until she's (justifiably) certain this will lead to rape. Him once again insists he will not rape her. RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, after all. [[SarcasmMode But--it's a-okay if he simply manhandles her a little for kicks as long as it's not the direct act of sex.]] Oh, and it doesn't end there. [[StockholmSyndrome Later Bubbles has started to fall for Him,]] and her time is almost up and she can go back home in a few days. Now, does Him reveal that the whole "Take Me Instead and use me like a Pet" is a big supernatural contract that was out of Him's control to change the rules of, and they both had to get through it on those terms whether either of them agreed to them or not? Nope. Him reveals that this was all just a clever little scheme he put together to trick innocent little Bubbles into falling for/ trusting for[=/=]trusting him. So is Bubbles pissed out of her mind since all the humiliation and molestation she went through was just a trick and proceeds to kick his demonic ass? Oh no, she's just a little insulted. Look, Bubbles might be the most kindhearted and understanding of the Girls, but she is certainly is not this kind of a pushover! I won't use up the rest of this page typing out the ending or the stuff that comes after this. The thing that gets me is that these plot elements make the moral come off as: "If someone forces you to be a glorified SexSlave that = True Love!!" and "Rape is only if someone forces intercourse on you, not any other type of touching or sexual contact against your will." The fic is supposed to be darkly romantic, but this comes across as deeply disturbing.
18th Apr '16 2:38:01 PM kenyastarflight
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* Tropers/KenyaStarflight: I came across a [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers Transformers]] fanfic a long time ago (so long ago that I can't tell you the title or even if it still exists online) that, for the first two chapters, was little more than "just another {{Lemon}} where Megatron sleeps with a MarySue love interest," which are so commonplace they're barely worth worrying about anymore. What made this one cross over into "completely irredeemable" territory was the fact that the author saw fit to pull a Creator/{{Bleedman}} and use 9/11 as a friggin' plot point. Seriously, the MarySue love interest was somehow involved in the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, was injured in the chaos, and while unconscious had a vision of her unborn child which gave her the will to keep going. ArtisticLicenseBiology aside, using the 9/11 attacks as a plot device to give Megatron and your MarySue a baby is tasteless, disrespectful, and completely unnecessary.
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