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* Tropers/Sceptre: Patriot Games. Home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and "Shipoopi" scenes. The first was just unnecessary violence and is uncomfortable to watch. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.
* [[Tropers/{{Midoriri}} Midoriri:]] For me, it was one of the Manatee Gags in ''Padre de Familia.'' Brian reminds Peter that he (Peter) didn't even ''know'' about 9/11 until years later. Okay, fine...but then we cut to Lois, watching the coverage with tears in her eyes and a tissue in hand...and peter walks in, glances at the TV, ''laughs'' and says "Must be a woman-pilot," before walking off. ''[[DudeNotFunny That's not f* cking funny!]]''
* ''SuperSaiyaMan'': ''Untitled Griffin Family Story'' is the episode where you can actually PIN-POINT [[FamilyGuy Family Guy's]] descent into mediocrity and SoBadItsHorrible. Lets see, we revisit Nate Griffin, which could have been good but...well it turned out bad when we learn he 'invented the DMV'. Then we learn the Griffins are literally ''related to Hitler''. And finally, when the family doesn't do anything to help [[ButtMonkey Meg]] from getting arrested, and Peter's comment at the end and overall attitude...yeah, this is the starting point of the show's descent into suckiness.
* ''ShadowSlip'': The way they wrote out Cleveland's Ex-Wife in that Family Guy/Cleveland Show crossover. Basically, it says a man (Glen Quagmire) can be an adulterer (let's not forget some of his more questionable behavior) all he likes and [[KarmaHoudini not get any sort of comeuppance for his behavior]], but when a woman does it even ONCE [[DoubleStandard has to be made to pay for it with her LIFE later on!]]. This Troper is sick of this.

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* Tropers/Sceptre: Tropers/{{Sceptre}}: Patriot Games. Home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and "Shipoopi" scenes. The first was just unnecessary violence and is uncomfortable to watch. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.
* [[Tropers/{{Midoriri}} Midoriri:]] For me, it was one of the Manatee Gags in ''Padre de Familia.'' Brian reminds Peter that he (Peter) didn't even ''know'' about 9/11 until years later. Okay, fine... but then we cut to Lois, watching the coverage with tears in her eyes and a tissue in hand...hand... and peter walks in, glances at the TV, ''laughs'' and says "Must be a woman-pilot," before walking off. ''[[DudeNotFunny That's not f* cking funny!]]''
f*cking funny]]!''
* ''SuperSaiyaMan'': ''Untitled Griffin Family Story'' is the episode where you can actually PIN-POINT [[FamilyGuy Family Guy's]] descent into mediocrity and SoBadItsHorrible. Lets see, we revisit Nate Griffin, which could have been good but... well it turned out bad when we learn he 'invented the DMV'. Then we learn the Griffins are literally ''related to Hitler''. And finally, when the family doesn't do anything to help [[ButtMonkey Meg]] from getting arrested, and Peter's comment at the end and overall attitude... yeah, this is the starting point of the show's descent into suckiness.
* ''ShadowSlip'': The way they wrote out Cleveland's Ex-Wife in that Family Guy/Cleveland Show crossover. Basically, it says a man (Glen Quagmire) can be an adulterer (let's not forget some of his more questionable behavior) all he likes and [[KarmaHoudini not get any sort of comeuppance for his behavior]], but when a woman does it even ONCE [[DoubleStandard has to be made to pay for it with her LIFE later on!]]. on]]! This Troper is sick of this.this.
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* ''ShadowSlip'': The way they wrote out Cleveland's Ex-Wife in that Family Guy/Cleveland Show crossover. Basically, it says a man (Glen Quagmire) can be an adulterer (let's not forget some of his more questionable behavior) all he likes and [[Karma Houdini not get any sort of comeuppance for his behavior]], but when a woman does it even ONCE [[DoubleStandard has to be made to pay for it with her LIFE later on!]]. This Troper is sick of this.

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* ''ShadowSlip'': The way they wrote out Cleveland's Ex-Wife in that Family Guy/Cleveland Show crossover. Basically, it says a man (Glen Quagmire) can be an adulterer (let's not forget some of his more questionable behavior) all he likes and [[Karma Houdini [[KarmaHoudini not get any sort of comeuppance for his behavior]], but when a woman does it even ONCE [[DoubleStandard has to be made to pay for it with her LIFE later on!]]. This Troper is sick of this.
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* ''SuperSaiyaMan'': ''Untitled Griffin Family Story'' is the episode where you can actually PIN-POINT [[FamilyGuy Family Guy's]] descent into mediocrity and SoBadItsHorrible. Lets see, we revisit Nate Griffin, which could have been good but...well it turned out bad when we learn he 'invented the DMV'. Then we learn the Griffins are literally ''related to Hitler''. And finally, when the family doesn't do anything to help [[ButtMonkey Meg]] from getting arrested, and Peter's comment at the end and overall attitude...yeah, this is the starting point of the show's descent into suckiness.

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* ''SuperSaiyaMan'': ''Untitled Griffin Family Story'' is the episode where you can actually PIN-POINT [[FamilyGuy Family Guy's]] descent into mediocrity and SoBadItsHorrible. Lets see, we revisit Nate Griffin, which could have been good but...well it turned out bad when we learn he 'invented the DMV'. Then we learn the Griffins are literally ''related to Hitler''. And finally, when the family doesn't do anything to help [[ButtMonkey Meg]] from getting arrested, and Peter's comment at the end and overall attitude...yeah, this is the starting point of the show's descent into suckiness.suckiness.
* ''ShadowSlip'': The way they wrote out Cleveland's Ex-Wife in that Family Guy/Cleveland Show crossover. Basically, it says a man (Glen Quagmire) can be an adulterer (let's not forget some of his more questionable behavior) all he likes and [[Karma Houdini not get any sort of comeuppance for his behavior]], but when a woman does it even ONCE [[DoubleStandard has to be made to pay for it with her LIFE later on!]]. This Troper is sick of this.
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** ''Many'' of the show's attempts to preach liberal views, usually by Brian, have been poorly recieved by many liberals due to how {{Anvilicious}} the views are presented, how the other side is pointlessly demonized, and how Brian comes across as a blatant {{Jerkass}} AuthorAvatar MarySue in delivering it all.
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** ''Many'' of the show's attempts to preach liberal views, usually by Brian, have been poorly recieved by many liberals due to how {{Anvilicious}} the views are presented, how the other side is pointlessly demonized, and how Brian comes across as a blatant {{Jerkass}} AuthorAvatar MarySue in delivering it all.
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* Tropers/DragonQuestZ: The "Nazis would support [=McCain=] and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap people like Sean Hannity and Anne Coulter would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.

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* Tropers/DragonQuestZ: The "Nazis would support [=McCain=] and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap people like Sean Hannity and Anne Ann Coulter would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.
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* [[Tropers/{{Midoriri}} Midoriri:]] For me, it was one of the Manatee Gags in ''Padre de Familia.'' Brian reminds Peter that he (Peter) didn't even ''know'' about 9/11 until years later. Okay, fine...but then we cut to Lois, watching the coverage with tears in her eyes and a tissue in hand...and peter walks in, glances at the TV, ''laughs'' and says "Must be a woman-pilot," before walking off. ''[[DudeNotFunny That's not f*cking funny!]]''

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* [[Tropers/{{Midoriri}} Midoriri:]] For me, it was one of the Manatee Gags in ''Padre de Familia.'' Brian reminds Peter that he (Peter) didn't even ''know'' about 9/11 until years later. Okay, fine...but then we cut to Lois, watching the coverage with tears in her eyes and a tissue in hand...and peter walks in, glances at the TV, ''laughs'' and says "Must be a woman-pilot," before walking off. ''[[DudeNotFunny That's not f*cking funny!]]''funny!]]''
*''SuperSaiyaMan'': ''Untitled Griffin Family Story'' is the episode where you can actually PIN-POINT [[FamilyGuy Family Guy's]] descent into mediocrity and SoBadItsHorrible. Lets see, we revisit Nate Griffin, which could have been good but...well it turned out bad when we learn he 'invented the DMV'. Then we learn the Griffins are literally ''related to Hitler''. And finally, when the family doesn't do anything to help [[ButtMonkey Meg]] from getting arrested, and Peter's comment at the end and overall attitude...yeah, this is the starting point of the show's descent into suckiness.
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* Tropers/Sceptre: Patriot Games. Home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and "Shipoopi" scenes. The first was just unnecessary violence and is uncomfortable to watch. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.

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* Tropers/Sceptre: Patriot Games. Home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and "Shipoopi" scenes. The first was just unnecessary violence and is uncomfortable to watch. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.again.
* [[Tropers/{{Midoriri}} Midoriri:]] For me, it was one of the Manatee Gags in ''Padre de Familia.'' Brian reminds Peter that he (Peter) didn't even ''know'' about 9/11 until years later. Okay, fine...but then we cut to Lois, watching the coverage with tears in her eyes and a tissue in hand...and peter walks in, glances at the TV, ''laughs'' and says "Must be a woman-pilot," before walking off. ''[[DudeNotFunny That's not f*cking funny!]]''
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* Pagannerd: From the episode where Meg dates "A completely normal boy!", when Lois, who, although being a bitch, has always tried to be a good mother who looks out for her children, undergoes the final step of her Jerkass Character Derailment by sexually assualting her daughters' boyfriend, and then, when caught, claiming that he was RAPING her.

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* Pagannerd: From the episode where Meg dates "A completely normal boy!", when Lois, who, although being a bitch, has always tried to be a good mother who looks out for her children, undergoes the final step of her Jerkass Character Derailment by sexually assualting her daughters' boyfriend, and then, when caught, claiming that he was RAPING her.her.
* Tropers/Sceptre: Patriot Games. Home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and "Shipoopi" scenes. The first was just unnecessary violence and is uncomfortable to watch. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.
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* Tropers/HappyMan: Family Gay. How the "being gay is not a choice, and we should accpet them the way they are" intended aesop was warped into "gays are ammoral assholes that find partners easily replaceable and care nothing but sex, and we should accept them the way they are". Because that's exactly what Peter says with his actions after becoming gay: he ditches his wife and family for a random guy named Scott, leaving them ravaged. Let's not forget that, apparently, being gay makes you want to bang ten guys at once. This shows how bad is to preach in a comedy show, you simply can't be serious and funny at the same time. Oh, and the forsting of the cake was Lois' last line, "I can't change your orientation, and I'd be wrong for me to try", when they DID change Peter's orientation.

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* Tropers/HappyMan: Family Gay. How the "being gay is not a choice, and we should accpet them the way they are" intended aesop was warped into "gays are ammoral assholes that find partners easily replaceable and care nothing but sex, and we should accept them the way they are". Because that's exactly what Peter says with his actions after becoming gay: he ditches his wife and family for a random guy named Scott, leaving them ravaged. Let's not forget that, apparently, being gay makes you want to bang ten guys at once. This shows how bad is to preach in a comedy show, you simply can't be serious and funny at the same time. Oh, and the forsting of the cake was Lois' last line, "I can't change your orientation, and I'd be wrong for me to try", when they DID change Peter's orientation.orientation.
* Pagannerd: From the episode where Meg dates "A completely normal boy!", when Lois, who, although being a bitch, has always tried to be a good mother who looks out for her children, undergoes the final step of her Jerkass Character Derailment by sexually assualting her daughters' boyfriend, and then, when caught, claiming that he was RAPING her.
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** This feminist troper on the other hand, thinks it was completely called for, since the woman is constantly soft balled for the sole reason of having a vagina.
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** This feminist troper on the other hand, thinks it was completely called for, since the woman is constantly soft balled for the sole reason of having a vagina.

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** This feminist troper on the other hand, thinks it was completely called for, since the woman is constantly soft balled for the sole reason of having a vagina.vagina.
* Tropers/HappyMan: Family Gay. How the "being gay is not a choice, and we should accpet them the way they are" intended aesop was warped into "gays are ammoral assholes that find partners easily replaceable and care nothing but sex, and we should accept them the way they are". Because that's exactly what Peter says with his actions after becoming gay: he ditches his wife and family for a random guy named Scott, leaving them ravaged. Let's not forget that, apparently, being gay makes you want to bang ten guys at once. This shows how bad is to preach in a comedy show, you simply can't be serious and funny at the same time. Oh, and the forsting of the cake was Lois' last line, "I can't change your orientation, and I'd be wrong for me to try", when they DID change Peter's orientation.
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* Tropers/DragonQuestZ: The "Nazis would support [=McCain=] and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap people like Sean Hannity and Anne Coulter would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.

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* Tropers/DragonQuestZ: The "Nazis would support [=McCain=] and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap people like Sean Hannity and Anne Coulter would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.show.
** This feminist troper on the other hand, thinks it was completely called for, since the woman is constantly soft balled for the sole reason of having a vagina.
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* Tropers/DragonQuestZ: The "Nazis would support [=McCain=] and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap Sean Hannity would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.

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* Tropers/DragonQuestZ: The "Nazis would support [=McCain=] and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap people like Sean Hannity and Anne Coulter would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.
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* Tropers/DragonQuestZ: The "Nazis would support [=McCain=] and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap ''FoxNews'' would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.

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* Tropers/DragonQuestZ: The "Nazis would support [=McCain=] and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap ''FoxNews'' Sean Hannity would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.
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* Tropers/DragonQuestZ: The "Nazis would support [=McCain=] and Palin" joke. I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap ''FoxNews'' would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.

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* Tropers/Scruffy: I think Brian shows his true colors in the episode ''Not all Dogs go to Heaven''. He insults Meg for being ugly... this coming from a dog. I don't know what happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but Brian apparently doesn't care. What he sees as "ugly", is totally irrelevant to God because He created what He believes is actually good. It's also worth noting that Brian completely disregards Meg's Christian messages as a whole. Whether or not you agree with a religion, any at all really, a lot of them have genuinely good messages of not stealing, not lying, and so forth. Most people of any religious affiliation (including the non-religious) would probably attest to this. The entire episode doesn't even touch on this. Furthermore, Brian comes off as a HUGE hypocrite when he criticizes Meg for being some "crazy, outspoken, conversion-happy Christian", but it turns out that it's okay for him to convert her into an atheist... which in fact makes him some grand visionary. [[SarcasmMode You gotta love double standards.]] Also egregious is the the entire process of Meg "becoming" a Christian, and the way Brian changes her mind, which are simply pathetic. She didn't convert through deep spiritual reflection or existential pondering, she just... watched a show. Brian backhandedly comments on both Meg and her faith, and [[WallBanger converts her in all but 30 seconds.]] McFarland would lead you to believe that religious people are easily manipulated or "brainwashed", because he knows everything. Or perhaps it simply doesn't matter what approximately 85% of America (the population with a religious preference) thinks about his show. To say that McFarland has an agenda is a huge understatement.
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* Tropers/Scruffy I think Brian shows his true colors in the episode ''Not all Dogs go to Heaven''. He insults Meg for being ugly... this coming from a dog. I don't know what happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but Brian apparently doesn't care. What he sees as "ugly", is totally irrelevant to God because He created what He believes is actually good. It's also worth noting that Brian completely disregards Meg's Christian messages as a whole. Whether or not you agree with a religion, any at all really, a lot of them have genuinely good messages of not stealing, not lying, and so forth. Most people of any religious affiliation (including the non-religious) would probably attest to this. The entire episode doesn't even touch on this. Furthermore, Brian comes off as a HUGE hypocrite when he criticizes Meg for being some "crazy, outspoken, conversion-happy Christian", but it turns out that it's okay for him to convert her into an atheist... which in fact makes him some grand visionary. [[SarcasmMode You gotta love double standards.]] Also egregious is the the entire process of Meg "becoming" a Christian, and the way Brian changes her mind, which are simply pathetic. She didn't convert through deep spiritual reflection or existential pondering, she just... watched a show. Brian backhandedly comments on both Meg and her faith, and [[WallBanger converts her in all but 30 seconds.]] McFarland would lead you to believe that religious people are easily manipulated or "brainwashed", because he knows everything. Or perhaps it simply doesn't matter what approximately 85% of America (the population with a religious preference) thinks about his show. To say that McFarland has an agenda is a huge understatement.

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* Tropers/Scruffy Tropers/Scruffy: I think Brian shows his true colors in the episode ''Not all Dogs go to Heaven''. He insults Meg for being ugly... this coming from a dog. I don't know what happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but Brian apparently doesn't care. What he sees as "ugly", is totally irrelevant to God because He created what He believes is actually good. It's also worth noting that Brian completely disregards Meg's Christian messages as a whole. Whether or not you agree with a religion, any at all really, a lot of them have genuinely good messages of not stealing, not lying, and so forth. Most people of any religious affiliation (including the non-religious) would probably attest to this. The entire episode doesn't even touch on this. Furthermore, Brian comes off as a HUGE hypocrite when he criticizes Meg for being some "crazy, outspoken, conversion-happy Christian", but it turns out that it's okay for him to convert her into an atheist... which in fact makes him some grand visionary. [[SarcasmMode You gotta love double standards.]] Also egregious is the the entire process of Meg "becoming" a Christian, and the way Brian changes her mind, which are simply pathetic. She didn't convert through deep spiritual reflection or existential pondering, she just... watched a show. Brian backhandedly comments on both Meg and her faith, and [[WallBanger converts her in all but 30 seconds.]] McFarland would lead you to believe that religious people are easily manipulated or "brainwashed", because he knows everything. Or perhaps it simply doesn't matter what approximately 85% of America (the population with a religious preference) thinks about his show. To say that McFarland has an agenda is a huge understatement.
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* Tropers/SNESMasterKI: The episode ''Not all Dogs go to Heaven'', which can basically be described as an anti-theist ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.

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* Tropers/SNESMasterKI: The episode ''Not all Dogs go to Heaven'', which can basically be described as an anti-theist ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.was.
* Tropers/Scruffy I think Brian shows his true colors in the episode ''Not all Dogs go to Heaven''. He insults Meg for being ugly... this coming from a dog. I don't know what happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but Brian apparently doesn't care. What he sees as "ugly", is totally irrelevant to God because He created what He believes is actually good. It's also worth noting that Brian completely disregards Meg's Christian messages as a whole. Whether or not you agree with a religion, any at all really, a lot of them have genuinely good messages of not stealing, not lying, and so forth. Most people of any religious affiliation (including the non-religious) would probably attest to this. The entire episode doesn't even touch on this. Furthermore, Brian comes off as a HUGE hypocrite when he criticizes Meg for being some "crazy, outspoken, conversion-happy Christian", but it turns out that it's okay for him to convert her into an atheist... which in fact makes him some grand visionary. [[SarcasmMode You gotta love double standards.]] Also egregious is the the entire process of Meg "becoming" a Christian, and the way Brian changes her mind, which are simply pathetic. She didn't convert through deep spiritual reflection or existential pondering, she just... watched a show. Brian backhandedly comments on both Meg and her faith, and [[WallBanger converts her in all but 30 seconds.]] McFarland would lead you to believe that religious people are easily manipulated or "brainwashed", because he knows everything. Or perhaps it simply doesn't matter what approximately 85% of America (the population with a religious preference) thinks about his show. To say that McFarland has an agenda is a huge understatement.
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* Tropers/SNESMasterKI: The episode ''Not all Dogs go to Heaven'' can basically be described as an anti-theist ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.

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* Tropers/SNESMasterKI: The episode ''Not all Dogs go to Heaven'' Heaven'', which can basically be described as an anti-theist ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.
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'''[[ThisIsGonnaSuck Well, here it is.]] [[MostTriumphantExample The worst offender of the worst offenders.]] [[SarcasmMode Enjoy.]]'''
* The episode can basically be described as an anti-theist ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.- SNES Master KI
** Not to mention the above quote of "her very existence proves no benevolent force exists" is said with a complete straight face. It's not meant as a joke. It's not meant as an insult to her. It's meant as a fact. Danny Smith is the one that is the creator of this. FridgeLogic applies and means that he's therefore a non-benevolent individual that hates everyone and everything. I'll be completely honest, I watch ''Moral Orel'' and laugh at its portrayal of 'straw Christians'. Mostly because I know that most of them aren't like that, and it's a small vocal minority. But if the people who make the show want to focus on them so and empower them, it's their choice to do so. But this show, it truly hurt me and hurt my feelings. But then I've noticed that ''Family Guy'' has become more and more about being a mouth piece for far-left liberal and atheist beliefs and less about being funny. Really, if you're going to have a show be a mouthpiece, stop saying it's just for jokes, and say what it is: [[SouthPark your own personal propaganda machine.]]
*** I always saw the Meg statement as an extension of The Writer's general misogyny, interpreting "Meg" as basically "any woman who isn't hot". In this way, the statement makes [[InsaneTrollLogic vaguely more sense]], but [[BeyondTheImpossible becomes so much more disgusting as a result]].
*** I think Brian shows his true colors here. He insults Meg for being ugly... this coming from a dog. I don't know what happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but Brian apparently doesn't care. What he sees as "ugly", is totally irrelevant to God because He created what He believes is actually good. It's also worth noting that Brian completely disregards Meg's Christian messages as a whole. Whether or not you agree with a religion, any at all really, a lot of them have genuinely good messages of not stealing, not lying, and so forth. Most people of any religious affiliation (including the non-religious) would probably attest to this. Furthermore, Brian comes off as a HUGE hypocrite when he criticizes Meg for being some "crazy, outspoken, conversion-happy Christian", but it turns out that it's okay for him to convert her into an atheist. [[SarcasmMode Man I love double standards.]]
** Oh thank you for seeing the exact same problem I saw. The argument isn't even an attempt at logic, it's just "If God existed, he would've made Meg pretty." To sum up, if God existed then the atheistic creator of the cartoon would've have drawn a single character in an attractive manner. Dear Krishna, Mr. [=MacFarlane=]! Does he actually consider that a realistic reason to not believe in a God? The strangest part is that Brian's statement is accepted as a reasonable argument and the entire book burning is put to a halt and all the townspeople, who had started behaving like Nazis after becoming more religious, go back to being normal.
*** Similar to how most atheists won't spend their entire time trying to prove that everyone who is religious is an idiot Nazi and most atheists are actually quite fine with people practicing whatever religion makes them happy. But Danny Smith is the exception that proves the rule.
**** As an atheist, I was still somehow offended. It was either going far beyond the realms of parody in terms of portraying Christians, or it was the whole bringing great shame to atheists everywhere. It was just plain painful to watch.
***** The whole town converts back instantly too. Apparently Meg's existence is a pretty strong argument.
****** The really ridiculous thing is that in early seasons Brian was at least semi-religious. He had a Bible handy at times ("And the Lord said, Go Sox," in response to someone wondering what the bible verse people frequently referenced at ballgames was) and he was the only one who recognized the plagues when Peter made himself a false god, slapping Peter and declaring [[ThisIsSparta "God. Is. Pissed."]]
* That episode doesn't even pass the FridgeLogic test - God and Jesus are characters in the show, as is the Grim Reaper! Brian's venturing into FlatEarthAtheist territory saying that God doesn't exist in a universe where God can be found picking up women at the bar, all for the sake of being a mouthpiece. Also, as a liberal agnostic who used to like ''FamilyGuy'' for totally non-political reasons, I've just gotta comment that sharing his world views doesn't make the recent AuthorTract format any less preachy or condescending. The show just plain isn't funny anymore.
** Crap, at the end of the episode, it even showed that Brian's hypothesis that even though God doesn't exist (except that he does on the show), the universe is an amazing and wondrous place is wrong, as the universe was actually a molecule in the lamp on Adam West's nightstand.
** Wasn't there an episode where Meg became pretty and at the end of the episode it was concluded that being pretty wasn't good for her and she switched back to being ugly of her own free will? Which means that Meg choosing to not be pretty means there isn't a God because if there was a God he would've gone out of his way to interfere with her free will and force her to be attractive. HeadDesk, HeadDesk, HeadDesk.
* Not to mention that they managed to get the entire ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' cast to cameo and barely used them in the weakest guest appearance comedy yet on the show. I had all but given up on the show for a while, but being a TNG fan decided to sit for this one, my blood pressure steadily increasing as it became increasingly obvious that I was subjected effectively to a bait-and-switch (though I don't blame Fox for promoting the cameo, given what a train wreck the entire episode became).
** The first line of the episode implied that ''StarTrek'' convention-goers rarely see sunlight. Guess they wanted to pull out the fresh material right away.
* For the first half of the episode it seems to explicitly set up the moral that you shouldn't discriminate against someone for their faith or lack of one, or that maybe Meg just happened to take her religious belief a little too far... but nope! According to FamilyGuy, Christianity = BAD and Atheism = GOOD.
** That was the same aesop they seemed to be setting up for the episode "Familiy Goy". If I remember correctly, it ended with Jesus saying "[[BrokenAesop Six to one, they're [all religions] all complete crap]]".
** Either that or he's going with the flow of the [[{{Anvilicious}} overly passionate]] young people who [[AcceptableTargets blame religion for everything that's wrong with the Universe]]. Either way it's bad.
* Let's put it this way: this episode was so bad that ''even Seth'' had to eventually apologize for just how blatantly ''stupid'' this episode was in Jerome is the New Black (Quagmire's [[http://www.hulu.com/watch/111154/family-guy-quagmire-goes-off brutal tirade]] against Brian, that many consider Glen's CrowningMomentOfAwesome). This is the same man who approved "Prom Night Dumpster Baby" and yet ''THIS'' was the thing he apologized for. Seriously, it's that bad.
** The worst part. The single worst part of all of this... is that at the end of the episode, where someone calls out Brian, FINALLY, someone calls his bullshit, he comes home crying...and Stewie comforts him and tells him it's okay and not to worry about it. Brian has always been Stewie's first target. Sure, there's some serious FoeYay, but he ALWAYS goes the hell after Brian. And he comforts him. Comforts him and removes that nagging doubt that he's not a complete and utter failure of a character. [[INeedAFreakingDrink Someone get me a beer...]]
* The biggest irony of this whole mess is that Brian's speech at the end of the episode was ''supposed'' to be his CrowningMomentOfAwesome. Instead it wound up here.
* One has to wonder what the point of this episode was: was it meant to turn Christians into atheists? Make atheists shun their friends and family if they believed in, well, ''anything?'' Were we supposed to ''agree'' with Brian and admit that the majority of Americans are evil idiots because they believe in something? WHAT. WAS. THE. POINT?
* The reason why Meg became a Christian in the first place was because her life was starting to ''really'' suck. In other words Danny Smith arrogantly assumed that the ''only reason'' religion exists is because peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then...never mind the fact that Brian's big argument that converts the whole town to atheism is "Peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then." So, um, the exact same thing except with atheism. Not much a difference, is it?
** It also implied that the only reason people believe there isn't a God is because people's lives suck. Not because atheism is what makes sense to some people or anything. Of course not. It simply must be that all atheists are what they are because the God they don't believe in is a jerk. This episode made this atheist want to scream.
* This atheist was extremely offended that the episode portrayed Christians as if they were total morons. This is not the 13th fucking century, very few theists are that radical; not all of them are going to try to convert you or run you out of town. Have some class.
* It didn't help that the only Christians they portrayed are the vocal, extreme minority. Yes, some Christians still practice book burning but the same logic can be applied to everything: some men cheat on their wives so does that make all men evil? No.
* ''Possibly'', Brian's argument is what Christians refer to as the "problem of pain": why would God, who is Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent, allow for abusive parents, rapists, mustard gas, war etc? (In RealLife, it's a highly contested issue within the Christian faith alone.) Brian's argument might've held ''some'' water if handled properly. Instead, it came out as: "Meg, a ''fictional character'' has a really crummy life; ergo a benevolent God cannot exist." This episode, it seems, was nothing more than a logic-free TakeThat not only at Christianity, but ''any'' type of faith in the unseen.
** I want to say that first off, I am a hardcore Christian. However, this is my biggest problem with most of the quotes on this page...I feel like we're all totally missing the point. Brian's argument wasn't so much "Meg is ugly, therefore, God can't exist," it was more "Meg, why do you believe/trust in a God that allows all of these horrible things to happen to you?" (Her family hating her, her friends making fun of her, etc...) I think Brian's argument makes a little more sense than we give it credit for, but at the same time, he doesn't fully understand the Christian faith either to make a statement like that...in any case, it still fits nicely on this page.
** Yeah that's what I figured, it didn't seem like he was calling Meg "ugly" or anything, to me it seemed more like he was commenting on that the fact that nearly EVERYBODY that makes eye contact with Meg considers her ugly and is repulsed by her(not to mention the way overrused gag of her being mistaken for a guy), and he uses that logic to convince her that god dosen't exist-and that was more then enough to convince her to believe Brian, and when you consider all the abuse she's gone through, Brian's argument would naturally make perfect sense to her. I didn't have the same hatred for this episode that most people do, but it STILL definitely went too far with the ridiculously over-the-top scene with Brian being demonized by everyone just for being an Atheist.
* In somewhat of a direction toward the FridgeLogic[=/=]WallBanger portion of this, the fact that Brian is an atheist was introduced and driven toward maddening levels, completely ignoring the fact that his atheism is a direct punch in the face of the admittedly inconsistent continuity anyway. Now to be fair, the dumb line about Meg being too ugly to allow a God to exist was said by an AuthorAvatar, Brian and the fact that he said something so insanely wall banging with a straight face may have been an attempt at making it funny. This didn't make it any less jarring at the fact that Brian apparently doesn't believe in God and Jesus after having ''seen them with his own eyes, '''spent an entire episode trying to convince Peter that he shouldn't try to take over for the real God''''', and on a less notable example been the victim of otherworldly/paranormal events in the past, such as his ''entire house being sucked into nothingness.'' So either the context of this episode is that the God that has been shown in the past in the show was written off as if he never existed just to make a point or one of Brian's head injuries throughout the series caused him to forget the fact that he's been ''confronted'' by God in the past.
* If we cut past all of Danny Smith's bad logic the moral of the episode was "If God exists then why does suffering exist?". The problem with that is that, at some point, nigh-everyone in a religious society thinks of this: we didn't need an entire episode just to hear the same question.
* Wait, Meg had just become a Christian in that episode. Last time I checked people who've just joined a new religion wouldn't be that good at defending it.
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[[folder:"Family Gay"]]
*The episode where Peter leaves his jobless housewife and three kids (one of which being a baby) because he suddenly turned gay. Yes, guys, we understand that it's okay to be gay, but that doesn't give you the right to abandon all of your responsibilities without so much as a token conversation about child support. Hell, Lois even agrees that Peter didn't do anything wrong! He fucking did! He left your ass with three kids and NO WAY TO SUPPORT THEM. HE DIDN'T EVEN WAIT FOR HER TO GET A JOB SO THAT HIS FAMILY (which he should still care somewhat about because, you know, gay people aren't amoral assholes) COULD SUPPORT THEMSELVES!! YES, THATS RIGHT PETER, GO AHEAD AND JUST &^!@#&*^!$&(@#*#!$YGHQSF!!!
**Considering that it was [[RalphWiggum Peter]], they were better off without him, which [[LampshadeHanging the episode hung a lantern on]]. It had good comedic value, but it shows that the writers failed once again at preaching political correctness in a DeadBabyComedy. If he had proved ''SouthPark'' right about it just being a GagSeries, [[{{Understatement}} this Article would be a lot shorter]].
**You forgot to mention the worst parts. Peter became test subject for genetic experiments because he couldn't afford to pay for the damages a horse he bought did, almost ruining the family. SoYeah, to ruin your family and then leave them without any kind of support just because you're now gay is the right thing to do, and if you dare to say otherwise, you're a homophobe. And the most shocking thing is that everybody was putting Peter's happiness before everything, despite Peter being the cause of all the problems. I wonder why there are still so many people who says that Peter is not a blatant AntiSue.
***Some of you seem to be forgetting about Lois's billionaire father. Peter didn't need to support her, because daddy would just pay the bills.
***Did anyone forget that he was injected with ''gay person DNA''?! Did fucking ''[[{{Sonichu}} Chris-Chan]]'' write this?
***Eh, Peter's just lucky he's the main character of ''Family Guy''. [[DesignatedHero At this point, in any other show, he'd be the villain.]] No really, he would be. Just paint his skin a disgusting shade of green, put a nasty-looking sword in his hands, and you've got yourself an honest-to-badness [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Great Unclean One]].
****At this time I'm reminded of "{{Superman}} At Earth's End", a comic where guns are used to solve all the problems, and then ends with an anti-gun message. Similarly, you can't have a pro-tolerance message in an episode that makes such egregious, un-ironic use of stereotypes. Things just work a certain way, and no amount of "comedy" can make up for that.
**Lois' line "I can't change your orientation, and it'd be wrong for me to try" absolutely made NO SENSE since they DID CHANGE Peter's orientation earlier. However, [[{{Anvilicious}} banging people's head with the idea that homosexuality is not a choice was more important]].
*I simply love how Stewie suddenly takes the stance of staunch christian conservative (or perhaps christians in general, considering the show) for the sake of a temporary AuthorTract.
**Not to mention that Stewie is gay according to the {{Word of God}}
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[[folder: "Road to the Multiverse"]]
*"Road to the Multiverse" is ten minutes of poop and fart jokes interlaced with a thin plot and several Meg-is-ugly jokes. Then, in the very end, Brian from an alternate universe wants to come back to the main universe even though he [[FridgeLogic would've already gotten the chance to stay when he traveled with his Stewie through the Multiverse and didn't take that opportunity]] only to walk off and be hit by a car. The car was so predictable and obvious and that there wasn't a single person who didn't see it coming. Worse yet, alternate Brian would've been an interesting plot for a future episode but no, they killed him off instantly, which made the last seven minutes of the show worthless.
**This is exactly why the end of the Disney segment in the episode is so bad; this show is just as anti-Semitic as Seth purports Disney to be. Yes, we all know it's ''Disney'', but don't fucking pretend that this show isn't as offensive as anything that Disney puts out.
***If it was a shot at "Uncle Walt's" anti-semitism, it wasn't a very good one. If they had an animated Walt leading the charge to kill Mort, then that would have made more sense. But there wasn't, everything was ''all'' happy-scrappy until Mort showed up. The regular characters had designs reminiscent of various Disney characters (the latest being Meg's, based off of ''The Little Mermaid's'' Ursula, which came out waaayy long after Disney's death) and it gives off the impression that the Walt Disney Corporation as a whole hates Jews. And as for Family Guy not being anti-semitic? Well, let's see: the recurring Jewish character is Mort Goldman, who is pretty much a walking-talking personification of almost every Jewish stereotype known to man, his lesser seen family are pretty much his clones, and that when Peter once put up a "scare-Jew" (i.e. a scarecrow made up to look like AdolfHitler) to scare Mort away from the house so he wouldn't borrow anymore of the Griffens' stuff, Mort runs away screaming for everyone to protect Jon Stewart ("He's our most important Jew!") from the "reincarnated Hitler". So while Family Guy isn't anti-semitic per se, it does absolutely nothing to offset/subvert Jewish stereotypes. But yes, the Disney universe was a shitty joke, there is that too.
**** This troper actually ''loved'' the Disney universe segment and considers it the series' CrowningMomentOfAwesome. But, since [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] ''constantly'' makes that stupid Disney joke (Brian at the beginning of "Movin' Out, Brian's Song", the cutaway in some episode saying that Goofy goes to Hell for being involved with 9/11, etc.), I have to agree that the end of that segment was stupid. I was expecting a meta-joke about the Disney universe being too expensive to animate, and that would be why they had to leave. Not sure if that would have been better. Though, the end of that segment was not enough to make me not like that scene, "It's a Wonderful Day for Pie" and the Herbert part were still gold.
*** The thing is though, Walt Disney wasn't actually that racist, he was actually ''less racist'' than most people of his era. The reason him being anti-semetic became a popular belief was because of [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,295141,00.html a comment Brett Butler made on Letterman.]] Brett Butler's a psychotic drug addict, and was so addicted at the time that her show went through five producers in five years.
** I thought the whole Road to the Multiverse counts as a DethroningMomentOfSuck. You can literally put all the jokes in three categories. Bowel movements, Meg is ugly, and violence. Mayor [=McCheese=] gets shot, [[spoiler:alternate universe Brian gets hit by a car (predictable enough)]], John Hinkley (Reagan's attempted assassin) painted the Sistine Chapel, and Mort the Jew gets beat to death in the Disney universe.
** Wellesely Wild's anti-theism shines through again where he says Christianity holds back science here as well.
** What was really frustrating about it was the statement that without Christianity there would not have been the Dark ages. In reality, the biggest contributor to the Dark Ages was the power vacuum created by the fall of {{the Roman Empire}}, and it was largely the culture and technology brought back to Europe by the ''Crusades'' that ended them.
**Never mind the fact that Europe =/= the entire world. While Europe was enveloped in the Dark Ages, scientific advances still continued in other places like the Far East and the Islamic Empire (which reintroduced scientific and mathematic discoveries to Europe centuries after they had been lost there).
* When they went to the world where Japan won WW2. That joke was completely racist.
* This troper, a secular humanist, found the Christianity/Dark Ages joke in very bad taste.
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[[folder: "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag"]]
*The worst part of the Episode was when Brian dates an older woman was when showed the younger girl a video of himself in ''DieHard''. It wasn't funny, and it was just another use of LimitedAnimation. Considering that this is coming from ''Family Guy'', which has shown us four minutes of Conway Twitty singing with no animation ''at all'', this can be seen as an improvement.
**The episode where Brian got involved with an actual elderly woman. You know, someone who's actually OLD and not just above 21 years old. Even though that old lady died at the end of that episode, that was treated with a lot more respect and pathos then this episode saw fit to treat a woman who was, horrors of horrors, MORE THEN FORTY YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!
**The supposed {{Aesop}} of this episode was [[BrokenAesop broken beyond repair]]. Brian berates everyone for treating him poorly for dating an older woman, pointing out the hypocrisy of younger women dating older men and younger men dating older women. So, what happens? Again, the older woman tells Brian (who tells her he feels ''horrible'' for sleeping with another, younger, woman) that he's immature and that she's too good for him. Yes, according to the writers, it's not due to traditional sex roles, or {{double standard}}s, or traditional reasons that the idea of a man dating an older woman is frowned on. No, according to this episode, it's because men are immature. [[StreetFighter OF COURSE!]] I'm not sure which sex should be offended more...
*** Even though his family's reactions were jerkassy and his girlfriend seemed to suddenly and inexplicably turn into [[TheSimpsons Grandpa Simpson]], Brian's actions in that episode were pretty heinous. He pretty blatantly decided to propose in order to spite his family's prejudices, and though he apologized for cheating on her, he phrased it in a way that made it seem as though it was a good thing because it proved to him that SHE wasn't too old for him. DethroningMomentOfSuck from both sides of the argument.
**Perhaps the worst part of this episode was the writing within it. The older woman in question is screamed at by Peter, who grabs her shirt and starts demanding her age, sending her off in tears. The family seems UTTERLY DEVOTED to destroying Brian's love life. From the perspective of one who has worked very hard for his love life, I would ''beat my own kin'' if they did that. So, Brian does a good thing, comforts her, makes her feel loved and beautiful. It's amazing, maybe Brian does have a soul. Besides, age difference isn't that bad - Brian goes back and forth between 49 and 7, so hey, whatever. So, moving on from that. The woman is actually a fairly likable character. Well, we can't have that in a one shot, can we? So, in the fastest fucking case of {{Flanderization}} I've ever seen, this woman goes from being fairly on top of things and even somewhat modern to basically 80 in mannerisms and speech processes. My mother is 50. She's not talking in 1930s lingo. This is placed in to make her unsympathetic. Oh, and let's not forget the complete and utter CriticalResearchFailure - a picture is shown of the woman as a young child with her mother. Brian picks it up and comments "Huh... there's not enough stars on this flag!" in a nervous tone, implying she was born before Alaska and Hawaii were made states (1959). The woman is 50 (the episode first aired in 2009). If she's 50...and the picture shows her as a young, bipedal child with her mother (see, at least two years old, probably more)... then there WERE 50 stars on the flag...hmm. Thanks guys. I confirmed the Alaska/Hawaii thing in two minutes on TheOtherWiki. [[SarcasmMode I'm GLAD you can do the same]].
***Consider this: The entire family is ragging on her because she's "old." She's only fifty years old...In an earlier episode it was revealed that ''Peter'' is ''forty-two''. There's only eight years between them, ten between her and Lois! And ''that is what they call "old?!"''
***What's even more enraging is that Brian is about 49 in human years, which means that he's technically ''a year younger than her!'' Come ''on!''
*Lucy getting the ever-loving shit kicked out of her in "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag?" You know, I know she screwed with Charlie a lot back in ''{{Peanuts}}'' but nothing she did could you use to justify her getting kicked the crap out of her. Especially since she's a child, to make matters worse Peter actually brings up the therapy shtick she used as another reason to kick her. I dunno, maybe it's just me because I liked Lucy and don't like the concept of children being hurt... let alone a small 8-Year Old Girl all brought about [[RoadHouse a Patrick Swayze movie]] and Seth paying homage to him. Thanks Seth, I'm pretty sure Patrick would've wanted to be remembered for inspiring some idiot to beat up children.
**Not having seen the scene in particular, it sounds like a literal curb stomping, which is bad enough, but the fact that they did the same joke years before, only using Louis instead of Charlie Brown, just makes it worse. ''RobotChicken'' did something similar, but wasn't so bad, because it was so cartoonish, you could laugh at it.
**They did this joke already in ''Lethal Weapons'' (season 2), but much milder and to much better effect: Lois, in a martial arts training montage, runs to kick a football held by Lucy. The football gets yanked, Lois falls out of frame, then runs back to roundhouse Lucy, who cries. That's exactly the right amount of justice via cartoon violence that what Lucy did deserve. They ''knew'' how to do this joke right already, but have totally forgotten it since the pre-resurrection era.
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[[folder:'''Other Episodes''']]
*Hey, [=MacFarlane=], we fucking get it, you hate Jews. Enough already, okay? Really seriously getting a little sick of how much we need to hear about how much you hate Jews. Honest. Don't really need to hear Stewie smarming right at the camera about how God will kick the Jews' ass for killing Jesus. Wow. Fucking seriously, we're going to go with that bit? Really? From Stewie, not from Peter, we're really going to go with "Jews killed Christ."
**But no seriously, [=MacFarlane=] averages one Jew joke per episode. The only ethnicity he goes after as much or more are the Hispanics. Seriously, fucking enough, kk.
** Several of the writers, producers and voice actors for the show are Jewish. It's more likely to be SelfDepreciatingHumour than anti-semitism, something which American Jews are hardly alien to.
*In one episode, Jesus himself (mind you a couple of episodes before said that God and Jesus didn't exist) said that all religion was crap, and surprise, Brian agrees.
**I think that part of the episode was a response to complaints of how Brian could be an atheist when he's met God and Jesus. Rather than a clever or thoughtful explanation of how Brian could maintain his atheism, Mark Hentemenn instead has Jesus say that all religion is crap because Brian can't possibly be wrong. EVER. That's right, Brian's now officially a BlackHoleSue and the universe bends to his will. Of course that doesn't explain how Jesus has superpowers but I'm sure we'll get another episode where that's explained to the most insulting extent possible.
***Also the fact that deism isn't religious, but also believes there is a God. That could have been used, but NOOOOO, the AuthorAvatar is ALWAYS right!
****Which makes no sense as Brian's won an award for his essay and was hired by the New Yorker on the strength of his writing and worked himself to the bone (to the point of taking the mayor hostage) to fight a discriminatory law. His novel is apparently pretty lousy and accidentally a remake of [[IronEagle an existing story]], but he does seem to have a history as a talented writer. Not to mention that he was being chewed out by a guy who has been almost explicitly shown to engage in date rape, statutory rape, incest and bestiality, has left many fatherless children, and also hits on his best friend's wife (and outright slept with his other one's). The rant would have made sense if it was Cleaveland or Joe making it, but Quagmire?
*****Also, one of Quagmire's points was that he has no illusions about who he is, what he wants, and what he's after, and doesn't particularly try to hide it, either. Brian, on the other hand...
****** There's a difference between admitting that you're shallow and admitting that you're a rapist.
******When it comes to creative writing, Brian just sucks, has no originality, his best work is plagiarism and his mediocre work is unintentional plagiarism.
*The [[MoralDissonance Fighting a discriminatory law by taking the mayor hostage]] one. I'm sorry; WHAT?!?!? I don't care who you are or what you believe; tell me, for the love of all things sane, you see the problem with this! Brian, trying to prevent a gay marriage ban, takes an elected official hostage at gun point; and all it takes is a talking to from Lois about he's, surprise surprise, right again to get him to give up.
**What ticks ''This'' Troper off even more? Lois believes that gays should have the right to be together, but is against gay marriage. This is a moderate position, and indeed may be the majority one in America. But what convinces her that this opinion is wrong, wrong, wrong? Seeing Brian performing his '''''ACT OF TERRORISM''''' on the news, because obviously "he feels really strongly about this." '''''What?!''''' News flash, idiot writers: lots of people "feel really strongly" about their opinions, that has exactly ''zero'' definitive correlation to whether or not those opinions are right! To put it another way, if ''Lois'' had taken the mayor hostage to ''prevent'' gay marriage, would Brian have been so [[EasyEvangelism easily converted]] to her side, given how "strongly" she apparently believed she was right?
**Probably the worst part of that episode, for This Troper? The rape joke about Elizabeth Smart. RapeAsComedy is really toeing the line, even though this show does it constantly. But calling out the name of an ''actual'' rape victim, specifically a ''child?'' '''FUCK YOU, ASSHOLES.''' You know, I hope her ''family'' wasn't watching or anything.
*[[NostalgiaCritic ...I like to think of myself as a semi-reasonable human being, as a man of the world, so to speak, with a view somewhat grounded in comedic reality and realization. That view has been challenged. By what, you may ask?]] ''FamilyGuy''. Sweet Jebus what went wrong? It was all going so well! Then it went like ''TheSimpsons'', and each successive season got worse and worse! I persevered, oh I sat through it! If the Beatles movies couldn't break me, then certainly ''Family Guy'' wouldn't. This last season looked so harmless too. Even though every episode seemed to be composed of pure suck, there were at least moments to make up for it. But this last one... Why? Dear merciful God in Heaven, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger WHY? WHY DID CONWAY TWITTY SING FOR FIVE WHOLE MINUTES?!]] I'm...I'm ashamed to admit it...but that was the first time I turned away from a T.V. show in disgust. It was as if all [[WorseThanItSounds my senses were being raped by this single episode.]] I am a broken man... Don't cry for me, I'm already dead.
**"I'm alive! But I'm so angry, somebody's gotta pay for this!" While bad, the line was [[RefugeInAudacity so absurd and out of nowhere that I got some laughs out of that scene.]]
*''Family Guy'' has a tendency of ripping things off, shot-by-shot, word-for-word. While this effect is intentional, it comes off as greatly annoying to more than one troper. To wit:
**For me, ''FamilyGuy's'' Dethroning Moment of Suck was the "Ding Fries Are Done" song, which was an absolutely verbatim ripoff of a radio bit/viral video that had long been circulating on the Internet.
**The recreation of "Somewhere That's Green" from 'LittleShopOfHorrors''. Too much goddamn fucking filler, no gags added or anything, and all for a tired joke involving Herbert, their worst character. And not to mention the fact that Herbert is in drag in that scene. No amount of BrainBleach can wipe away the image that is now burned in my retinas.
**Adding to THAT, the show lifted, verbatim, an old joke that had been around long before the show returned from cancellation. Not a joke from any show, a "did you hear the one..." joke. The cutaway gag where Peter, dressed like a doctor, informs a husband that his wife has become a vegetable, and that he'll have to spend all his life caring for her, then follows it with "Nah, I'm just kidding, she's dead". That's probably hilarious, had you not been told that joke less than a year before the show returned from cancellation... [[DudeNotFunny Good luck telling that joke, now, and not being accused of getting it from ''Family Guy''. "Kudos" to Seth MacFarlane and pals for ripping off a source material that can't be pinpointed. Not like that's stopped them, because moment-by-moment recreations are apparently hilarious.]]
***Then there is the episode in which Peter founds his own religion. Quagmire comes to him and tells him about all the dirty things he has done. When Peter explains to him that there is no point in telling him that as there is no confession in his religion, Quagmire responds, "Are you nuts? I'm telling this to ''everyone!''" Also an old joke. It appeared before that in the third ''BlueCollarComedyTour'' movie, told by JeffFoxworthy.
*Yeesh, Meg. Where exactly it started this troper can't pinpoint (and has no real desire to look anyway), but wherever it was that Meg went from [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] teenager with self-esteem issues to punching bag qualifies as the Dethroning Moment of Suck. The fact it was done because the writers allegedly didn't know how to write for a teenage female character just makes it even more stupid. Some examples: Shot full of poison darts? Check. Thrown out of a boat, caught by fisherman, and then verbally berated? Check. Blamed and punished for everything in the series? Check yet again. Being shot POINT BLANK in the head just for greeting her father? Check and mate. And, indeed, compared to everyone else, Meg is far more likable than anyone else in the series these days.
**Agreed. I could understand it as a ''RunningGag'' (because it does make me like Meg more, because seriously, the stuff she gets put through), but Jesus, "The Road to {{The Multiverse}}" is pretty much ''the'' Dethroning Moment for me when it comes to Meg. [[spoiler:''Every single dimension'' hates her for the exact same reason: that she's not pretty enough for them ([[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]] legs in Disneyverse, Bulldog in the Dogs Rule-verse, committing seppuku in the Japanverse for being ugly and being promptly farted on. Even in the universe where Brian and Stewie see her as a sex bomb. [[ThisIsSparta What. The. Hell.]] The worst part there is they show several other women in the background and a woman who's just finished having sex with Quagmire. None come close to as hot as hot Meg]]. The shallowness really just pisses me off.
***Oh, ''God'', yes. I thought things were looking up when Meg was shown to be apparently pretty sexy in one 'verse, but then we find out she's still considered hideous? God damn you, Wellesely. ''Damn you!''
****Really, the only thing funny about the whole Meg's-ugly concept anymore is the fact that in the show's entire run, she's been voiced by two ridiculously gorgeous actresses -— Lacey Chabert and Mila Kunis, for the uninformed.
****One of the Meg's Ugly jokes that really p.o.'d this troper was when Meg was in her underwear (Which I for one enjoyed) and said to BillClinton he could have her and he went eww, and this man was in a limo with like five women who were ''WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY'' fatter than Meg's supposed to be.
*****That scene was undoubtedly intended as a Monica Lewinsky joke. Which ''might'' have been mildly funny, if the episode had aired...oh, '''EIGHT YEARS EARLIER!''' Gee, writers—why don't you throw in some O.J. Simpson jokes while you're at it? Oh, ''wait....''
***The one I hated was when she is begging to get raped, because no other man would have her, and the horrified criminal runs away in disgust.
**[[Tropers/{{Jonn}} I]] sat down for that episode telling myself, "Okay, let's see how long before The Writers bash Christians." Four minutes later, I changed the channel, noted the time for the WriterOnBoard page, and have never watched a new ''Family Guy'' again.
*The MileyCyrus episode had one that was quite disturbing. Brian asks Stewie to reprogram Miley Cyrus into being Brian's sex slave and since she's a minor, Brian is a pedophile (oh God, they're gonna make him the new Herbert!). While that's disgusting enough on its own, Brian justifies this by saying that he's 7. This only makes things worse because now [[FridgeLogic every girl Brian has dated is now a pedophile]]. While he would normally be considered 49 technically (in dog years, since one dog year equals 7 human years), he himself said he's 7 and he can't have it both ways. Either he is 49 and going after a 17 year old (which even Stewie found unacceptable) or else he's 7 and going after a 17 year old (which somehow made everything okay?) and both ways are {{squick}}y.
**Her age isn't even the whole of it. They wanted to re-program her to have sex with Brian against her free will. She may have been a robot, but the implications of rape were definitely there - her being underage only makes an already really creepy moment worse.
***Take into mind that Brian is a dog....as in not a human...[[{{Squick}} how many girlfriends has he had?]]
***What about the scene from the ''HannahMontana'' show where Miley's dad (who is played by her real father) told her to put on her wig so he could have sex with her under the notion that Hannah is not his daughter? Seriously, how many incest jokes do they have to have?
**Don't forget that the Evil Monkey is really a pretty nice guy. More than a few people claimed that was a JumpTheShark moment.
*"Stew-roids". This episode was probably just to get fans of the new, gay, Stewie (yes, they exist) to watch it when it turns out that it was a "Meg episode". But ''that's'' not the problem. Then Connie dates Chris (long story) just to make him "cool". But '''that's''' not the problem. Then Chris breaks up with Connie. But '''''that's''''' not the problem. The problem? Well, Connie "teams up" with Meg to get back at Chris, so Meg gets Neil to show an embarrassing video of Chris to get him to be "not cool" anymore, then ''the freaking principal of the school'' just jumps out of nowhere and says that ''Connie'' is now "cool" again for "getting back at Chris". But...when did Connie do anything? Meg at least gave Neil the deal. Now, does this show run on StatusQuoIsGod or not? They could have done it better, MUCH better. Bonus negative points for making Meg look like a [[PsychoLesbian lesbian creep]] near the end. (Tropers/GreatPikminFan)
**What the principal said was that Connie was popular because the guy who dethroned her had himself been dethroned. Therefore, anything he did was considered irrelevant.
***And despite the title being "Stew-roids", the whole reason he got really buffed up was to get revenge on Susie for humiliating him at the party -- and yet at no point does he ever go back to challenge her and his muscles get totally wasted. They also wasted a good opportunity to have him beat the shit out of Brian, and yet by the end of the episode his muscles waste away, having accomplished nothing -- and Brian chases him out a window and he flies away using his flappy skin.
*Without even getting into the politics, what really got me was the episode where Stewie questions the obvious PlotHole of Brian, a 7-year-old dog, having a teenaged son. Brian's response is "If you don't like it, go on the Internet and complain" (yes, I am aware of the irony). Because obviously, no matter how crappy your own writing skills are, all it takes to defend yourself is to call your opponents nerds with no life. Way to bite the hand that feeds you writers. (Tropers/{{AmuroNT1}})
**There's nothing inherently wrong with intentionally invoking the RuleOfFunny, so long as you remember that the key word is "funny".
***That moment was when I (Tropers/MetalShadowX) declared the seventh season to be the absolute worst. I'm pretty lenient on the show (Even ignoring the stupider crap listed here), but that was uncalled for; I also didn't like the other episode scenes with this "joke", but that was definitely the worst joke yet. With season 8 having no Conway Twitty segment in sight, I'd say things are looking up.
***They do the same in the episode "I Dream of Jesus". "Ha, ha! He's on the internet, and I'm in college!" Considering college students are probably one of Family Guy's biggest markets, I'm surprised how few people seem to have noticed the huge TakeThat against the target audience.
*In "Road to Germany" when Stewie sees the Nazi uniform has a [=McCain=]/Palin 08 tag on it. I don't hate this for political reasons, I hate this because this episode aired in OCTOBER of 2008. That joke would be relevant for one month and then it would seem off-putting. We know you guys are Democrats, and speaking as a Democrat I can say it makes the rest of us look terrible.
** The entire episode, really. [[DudeNotFunny It's all over the map.]]
*The episode where they travel to Texas. There's playing up stereotypes for humor, and there's presenting a direct critique of something. Both fine by themselves; ''they do not go well together''. Like bleach and ammonia. It's frightening that anyone out there is so bad at satire as to not know this; even moreso that a major network will still gladly pump the resulting cloud of toxic gas into people's homes.
** I think that this is a semi-stereotype at best. Being from Texas, I find few cowboy hat-wearing, rootin'-tootin', hicks. However, I imagine some Texans do indeed enjoy filling this stereotype while traveling to irritate other people. Sadly, it seems that quite a few non-Texans are surprised when they realize that not every Texan is a horse-wranglin', cattle-russlin', stereotype. Still, the other presumptions made by Seth and his crew are definitely below the belt.
**And then there's the pretense to get the Griffins to Texas: Stewie throws up in church after drinking too much wine and eating communion wafers, leading people to believe he's been possessed. So the ''whole town'' shows up to take Stewie away from his family to ''perform an exorcism'', and the Griffins '''leave Rhode Island'''. Never mind the fact that most church-sanctioned exorcisms are only for extreme cases -- the '''whole fucking town''' thinks that taking a child away from its family to perform a dangerous and potentially fatal religious practice based on a single instance of that child throwing up in church is '''A GOOD THING TO DO?!''' Oh, and let's not forget that while they're on the way to Texas, the Griffins learn that '''the police''' are looking for Stewie. Let me repeat that: '''the police are looking for a child because he may be possessed.''' Listen, I know it's just ''FamilyGuy'', and it's not meant to be intelligent entertainment on any level, but still... this qualifies as an Extreme DarthWiki/WallBanger in my opinion, and one of the absolute dumbest moments in television history.
***Also, considering that Stewie is like, an '''INFANT''', and infants vomit a lot, '''it makes even LESS SENSE''' that they would assume that he is possessed ''simply because he barfed'' '''AFTER EATING A LOT'''. WHAT ARE THESE MORONIC POLICEMEN ON?
***I also like that, despite the fact that the Griffins are stuck inside their house while it is surrounded by an angry mob, in the next scene they have somehow gotten into their car.
***Don't forget the fact that the Texans ''immediately'' try to execute Peter when he tells them he's retarded. Yes, Texas ''did'' execute a mentally retarded man, but he shot a cop. ''[[CriticalResearchFailure They don't try to kill retarded people for simply existing]]''.
**What annoyed me the most about the episode was Brian's short anti-Texas rant that was flirting with being a BigLippedAlligatorMoment where he notes that Texas is "A Red State Full of Right-Wing Nutjobs". Okay, [=MacFarlane=] or whoever the hell wrote this ep, I have one question for you: Have you NEVER heard of Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, or ANY OTHER GODDAMN URBAN SPRAWL IN TEXAS!? Seriously, there are some areas in Texas that are so Blue they make LA look Red. The only reason Texas is a Republican stronghold is because the suburbs around the cities tend to be more red as well as the large population nested in the Panhandle and the Guadelupe Mountains...
*"The Juice Is Loose": it was extremely dated (which they lamely tried to cover up in the intro), the jokes seemed to be stolen from a lame talk show circa 1993 and the ending was such a lame {{Shaggy Dog|Story}} moment. This is proof that if an episode can be dated BEFORE IT EVEN AIRS, it won't be long until the entire show become old and stale.
**I would like to point out that in two past episodes they made jokes that made O.J. innocent in the murder, including a news broadcast the real killer was found, and then all of a sudden he's deemed the murder again, talk about SeasonalRot.
*For [[DreadBaron me]] the final minutes of "Lois Kills Stewie" was the DMOS. The episode was (or so I thought) Stewie's final appearance, as his plans had finally succeeded. In a matter of minutes, we go from Stewie's "last hurrah" turns into a simulation. This was the breaking point, in my opinion.
**Still the [[strike: LampshadeHanging]], correction: the '''expected''' lampshade hanging with [[DontExplainTheJoke Brian and Stewie talking about how people would be disappointed]] [[ItGotWorse only made it worse]].
*[[Tropers/{{vampireklepto}} For me]], they started to get a bad omen watching Stewie's [[VillainSong over-the-top song about world domination]]. Ironic that part of the lyrics berated ''TheSimpsons'' for [[TakeThat not being funny anymore]], when ''Family Guy'' has managed it in fewer seasons. The main problem is watching the degeneration from actual jokes to just sex and violence (watch the chicken fights in order, they start getting a lot darker) and after watching "Love Blactually" with the most annoying, preachy, self-righteous Brian I think gives [[TheSimpsons Lisa Simpson]] a run for her money, I don't have high hopes of the rest of season 7.
*I stuck by Family Guy through the first 7 seasons broadcast in the UK. Then came "I dream of Jesus". Then I saw how dependent the show had become on cutaway or recurring unfunny gags drawn out so damn long, as well as all the political stuff Seth had seeped through lately. That one episode caused me to have enough of the entire show.
**Perhaps this Christian might be looking into this a bit to deeply, but what was up with their portrayal of Jesus as an immature brat in the last half of the episode? Where did that characterization come from at all? The first half of the episode played JesusWasWayCool fairly straight, then dropped it entirely for "immature celebrity" gags featuring Jesus. And in the end, the make Peter out to be more mature than Jesus; maybe it would have been more understandable (if not arrogant) if Brian was the one lecturing Jesus at the end... but ''[[RalphWiggum Peter]]''?
*My personal BerserkButton is the episode "Prick Up Your Ears", where the students at Meg's high school take abstinence pledges instead of being taught safe sex. Now, on one level I can agree with the basic {{Aesop}} that safe sex should be taught and condoms should be used...but what really turned this episode into a [=DMoS=] for me was the implication that if you deliberately choose not to have sex, there's something seriously wrong with you. [[RapeIsOkWhenItIsFemaleOnMale Apparently, according to Lois, rape is alright when it's used as a teaching tool to demonstrate to people why they shouldn't be abstinent.]] So if I, though the freedom of choice that the episode is supposed to promote, decide I don't want to have sex, it's alright for me to be raped as a means of "enlightening" me? Yikes.
**Especially the part about abstinence not being a "reasonable choice". That's like saying you can only either stay away from cigarettes your whole life or smoke 2 cartons every day, there is no in between.
*The one where Quagmire begins to rape [[TheSimpsons Marge]] and then she gives in is a particularly bad example. Matt Groening himself was pissed and chewed [=MacFarlane=] out. Eventually even [=MacFarlane=] admitted the joke was in really bad taste.
**For me, Quagmire crossed the MoralEventHorizon when he did that. Yeah guys, go ahead and show my favorite childhood characters get raped and killed. (Tropers/{{Emperordaein}})
***It gets worse. [[RapeIsLove Marge eventually GIVES IN]]. And after doing it with her, he kills the entire Simpsons family. [[ThisIsSparta WHAT. THE. FUCK.]] [[NoJustNo IS wrong with these people]]?! Some fans do take some solemn refuge in the thought that after Maggie's distinctive pacifier sucking is heard, there is a pause before the last gunshot is heard, which some fans like to interpret as Maggie taking the gun off him and doing him in. Would be bloody glorious if that actually happened, even if it wouldn't quite make up for the previous (appalling) joke.
***In my opinion, one of the worst DarthWiki/{{wall banger}}s about that whole segment was that it could have actually made for a decent joke/sight gag - if they cut it off right before it went straight into DudeNotFunny with the aforementioned cold-blooded murder (or, if you prefer, [[RapeIsLove Marge giving in]]).
**The biggest wallbanger comes in the DVD commentary for the episode where [=MacFarlene=] goes off on a long, unfunny tangent in which he goes on a long, whiny tirade about the joke being cut for syndication, insisting it's some sort of conspiracy perpetrated by Fox because he insulted their beloved cash cow (as opposed to the fact that it was a tasteless joke involving rape, murder and infanticide) then goes on to say the joke was justified because the Simpsons had already made several (Minor, mostly in good will) jokes at Family Guy's expense.
* My. God. Even after giving up on this show forever IT STILL MANAGES TO DISAPPOINT ME. On the 61st Emmys (2009) ''Family Guy'' did a segment for the show. Can you guess what they did? Have the family argue who's going to win? Have Peter meet the nominees? Do something funny? Nope. They repeated a joke. Which joke? THE ONE THAT HAS STEWIE BEATING UP BRIAN. THE EXACT SAME JOKE. The only thing they did change was the lines. And in turn, MADE THE FACT THAT STEWIE BEATS UP BRIAN MAKE NO SENSE. Any you know what, people laughed. TV's finest writers, actors, and other people laughing at this sick excuse for a joke. I died a little inside.
*What's even more stunning than "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" is "420", where Brian basically serves as a mouthpiece for pro-pot legalization propaganda, from conspiracy theories to all the supposed wonderful benefits that society receives once it's done. Not once does the episode really suggest that anything bad might happen as a result of wide-spread pot use, and the status quo is restored purely as a result of one man's greed.
** ''[[Tropers/LoneHoundoom I]] most certainly object to jokes implying that you can only enjoy [[DoctorWho Doctor]] [[HePannedItNowHeSucks Who]] if you're high.'' Not cool, man, not cool.
* [[Tropers/{{Demetrios}} I]] pretty much stopped watching the show after the episode "Family Goy". Why, you may ask? I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]].
**Bravo, Mark. You took one of the most chilling and disturbing scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' and played it for laughs (a shirtless Peter casually attempts to shoot Lois with a sniper rifle, all while his cigarette sits on the balcony ledge (and since when did they have a balcony?)). The only way that could've made a more tasteless reference to the Holocaust would be by having Mort Goldman complain about how dirty a gas chamber is. Of course, Hentemenn will probably read this, and think that's a great idea...
*When Quagmire gets the cat, and the other guys get annoyed and decide to shave it. We see Peter "shaving" it, actually killing it, complete with shrieks of pain from the cat, and blood spurting with each cut, landing on Peter and everywhere else. Besides not being funny in any conceivable way, this drags Peter's character and intelligence to depths never imagined, and crossed the MoralEventHorizon. The eventual payoff at the end of the episode reinforces these new lows.
**And it is even worse when you (miraculously) make it through to the end, where Quagmire is offering $200 dollars for the information of the whereabouts of his cat. Peter grabs the money out of Quagmire's hand and says he killed the cat in a very callous tone and walks off. Credits roll. '''WHAT!!!???'''
*The episode where they make fun of Carrot Top for his alleged over-reliance on props in order to be funny...because its not like ''FamilyGuy'' uses something way too much for the purpose of comedy.
*After watching a scene where Peter listed "all the brown people you can rape" as a benefit of joining the U.S. Navy in "Saving Private Brian", I swore myself off of ''Family Guy'' forever.
*When they started doing a rape or domestic violence joke at least, oh, once an episode if not more. LOL a woman is being horribly assaulted! I like dark humor, but there's a world of difference between say, Sarah Silverman's infamous bit in ''TheAristocrats'' and in ''Family Guy'' where there's no other joke besides...a woman being raped. Or horribly beaten. And Peter's "Oh get over it, it's a cartoon!" was particularly sickening cause I'm even more offended by the laziness and cowardice of that defense than I am the actual jokes themselves.
**"[[AquaMan You shouldn't have]] [[CompleteMonster led him on.]]" I first saw that gag along with a friend that had been a victim of sexual assault. I had voiced my concerns with her about my own disdain over how Meg's abuse was being played for laughs, having been a child abuse victim myself, but that ''AquaMan'' joke was the beginning of the end. Namely, the end of watching ''Family Guy'' ever again. We found that to be the turning point, sort of like CerebusSyndrome for being incredibly distasteful. You can't just flatly mirror real-life ignorant statements for laughs. Some hate later episodes for basically saying "THIS IS A JOKE", but we hated the series far before then, when they started saying "THIS IS SEXIST/RACIST/ETC." ''and playing this ignorance for laughs.'' Like, when ''KingOfTheHill'' is doing its usual thing, you're just like, "Ha ha, Bible-belt StrawmanPolitical conservative hijinks!" When ''FamilyGuy'' tries something similar, your reaction is more like, "Ha h--wait, incredibly offensive hijinks with a touch of TruthInTelevision? DudeNotFunny." It's hard to classify this under a definitive episode, but the ''AquaMan'' joke is definitely when I first started realizing just how badly these subjects were being handled.
* Next to ''DrawnTogether'', this is the animated show that '''defines''' NegativeContinuity, but when it comes to the characters' backgrounds, you used to look for a little consistency. For most of the show, Peter was the son of an Irish-Catholic, but discovered that one of his ancestors was a black man who was enslaved by his wife's family. And since that ancestor was renamed "Nate Griffin", it is logical to assume that Nate was from Peter's father's side of the family. Even "Untitled Griffin Family History" acknowledged Nate as a member of the family. But then, in one extremely stupid episode, we discover that not only was Francis Griffin '''NOT''' Peter's father, but Peter's father was a drunk living in Ireland. So Nate's outta the picture, unless the writers pulls out of their ass an explanation that Nate went over to Ireland for some reason (which until he does makes Nate a complete waste of time). And then comes ''"Padre de Familia"'' where it turns out that not is only Peter at least three-quarters Irish, but he was actually born from a failed abortion in Mexico. So now all of a sudden, Peter is now technically Mexican and is an illegal. [[DidNotDoTheResearch Putting aside that not only do immigration laws NOT work that way]], having three biological kids and living your entire life in America would at least not make him an illegal. And he has to work with migrant workers on his father-in-law's mansion because he want to get in touch with his non-existent roots, only for a SnapBack at the end. I won't get into detail about Lois' family's changes. For the love of God ([[StrawAtheist oh, wait...]]) guys, why do you feel the need to change what little you had established?
** In ''Family Guy'', immigration laws (like everything else) work the way that would most effectively create an {{anvilicious}} [[StrawmanPolitical strawman conservative]].
* The episode "Business Guy". The episode didn't exactly do or say anything offensive but it suffered from major plot holes, poor writing, an arbitrary resolution, and had only a few mediocre jokes. This isn't the offensive episode that ruins a show, this is the mediocre episode that makes people realize a show has run out of steam. Peter takes over Carter Pewterschmidt's company after a strip club sequence, whereupon the episode meanders along for 20 minutes (with a mediocre Quagmire joke in it) then tries to use a ''ScoobyDoo'' reference that ''Scooby Doo'' fans are sick of.
* I know it's ''Family Guy'', and it lives to be offensive, but is anyone else starting to notice that the show has a bit of a fixation on Jewish stereotypes and antisemitic gags? We have Peter reenacting scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' for laughs, an entire segment consisting of Mort Goldman coming up with dozens of ways to call Jews cheap.
** Here's something strange worth noting-- when Mort Goldman would originally appear, his large "weakling" personality was the source of comedy from him. Probably three years later after the show returned in 2005, jokes about him started to focus on his being a Jew. I am getting such a bad vibe from that shift in humor.
** Honestly, it goes beyond antisemitic jokes. There is a ton of casual racism that's just played out for laughs, especially in regard to blacks. The first few times I noticed it was from Brian which, alright, fine; Brian's a staunch progressive with a hidden, slightly racist streak inherited from his father. But then the jokes started coming from Stewie as well. And then every other character. I know the entire cast has been more or less [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into complete jackasses but when the racist jokes come so often and from every character, it starts to seem like maybe [[WriterOnBoard the writers have some issues]].
* Is it just me or has there been a lot of Robin Williams bashing lately? The cutaway in "[=McStroke=]" was lame enough, but then in "Baby Not On Board" a cutaway showed the kids in ''PatchAdams'' killing themselves over Robin's jokes (Something ''MadMagazine'' [[ItsBeenDone already did a decade earlier!]]), "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag" had ''WhatDreamsMayCome'' as one of the [=DVDs=] no one wanted to buy, and most recently in "Big Man On Hippocamus" there was a lame cutaway gag where the joke basically is "Robin isn't funny anymore". Right. [[SarcasmMode Because antisemitism, misogyny, and three minutes of Conway Twitty singing are much funnier than]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTAcw9puvY this]]. And don't think I'm complaining about all this because I'm a butthurt Robin fangirl. I'm complaining because these {{Take That}}s are unoriginal and not clever at all. My only consolation is that they haven't done a {{Gorn}}-filled animated snuff film ala ''{{Futurama}}''... yet. I wouldn't put it past them though.
* The second ''StarWars'' parody managed to be [[SoOkayItsAverage surprisingly alright]], its main flaw coming from missing out on the chance to make jokes (Missed Moment Of Funny?). The abortion joke, however, was [[DudeNotFunny just tasteless]].
* In the episode "Extra-Large Medium," the first gag of the show is Peter skating around in circles shouting "StarlightExpress" over and over. Apparently just [[ShallowParody saying the name of the thing you're making fun of]] counts as a joke now. Taking a page out of the ''SeltzerAndFriedberg'' book of comedy?
** The entire episode is a slap in the face to [[SarahPalin a certain politician]]. Subtle political satire is good, but this is just pathetic. The whole concept of the plot is mean-spirited and completely unnecessary. Said politician understandably criticized the episode for taking shots at someone who was supposed to be miles away from political crossfire. In response the actor who portrayed the character in question proceeded to defend her position and attack the politician for being hyper-sensitive and treating her son poorly. But here's the punchline-Seth backs her up. Not surprising that the actor would defend her own character (she was paid to voluntarily act, mind you), and proceed to explain that the attack was on the politician, not the child, which is not only still in poor taste, but is also a terrible excuse. Not to mention, more unlikely than an episode without an anti-Chrstian/Republican undertone. Her whole "get a sense of humor" is about as weak of an argument as they come. I dare that actor to publicly tell that to every single parent with a Downs Syndrome child, or someone who actually has the syndrome. Just think about it.
* Did anyone else {{facepalm}} after watching Lois make fun of Brian for dating an idiot in ''Whistle While Your Wife Works''? Especially since said idiot was only about as dumb Lois's husband, but much nicer, hotter and more infinitely more mentally stable and emotionally mature?
** Not just that Jillian is a much better companion than Peter, but considering that Lois knows that Brian has always loved her (Lois) since ''Brian in Love'' in Season 2 (and re-iterated in ''Play It Again, Brian''), it was downright cruel for her to mock Brian for his romantic choices. The guy is trying to preserve his friendships with you and your husband, and your marriage, by moving on and looking for someone else, and you throw it back in his face?!
* For me, another DMOS has to be what they did with Connie's character. Originally she was just the popular [[TheLibby Libby]] character who would make fun of Meg for her efforts to try to fit in with the popular kids. But nowadays she goes out her way to tease Meg even if Meg is just minding her own business, and even though Meg honestly wanted to be friends with Connie in the past. It just was fucking cruel in the "Stew-Roids" episode where Meg shows Connie the cuts she deliberately gave herself over the years as a result of Connie's cruel treatment of her when Connie asked Meg for help to make Chris "uncool". Because in later episodes if anything even after seeing how badly Meg has been hurt by her bullying (and how Meg cuts herself as a result of it) she ''still'' treats Meg like shit, if not more so.
* Ugh, the episode ''Baby Not On Board'', we all knew Peter is an idiot but at least he has some plausible reasons for it. Here it just...I don't have the words for it but man I know I couldn't be the only person who wanted to punch out Peter for his mind blowing stupidity. But no, NO, that's not the worst of it. After all the crap he puts his family through, Lois finally blows up at him for it. And then...feels ashamed when Peter ''rebuffs'' her for it? WHAT?! No! Nononononono. {{Rule of Funny}} or not, I can't give this show that one. There are just some {{Karma Houdini}} moments I can't forgive.
** [[Tropers/UberCream Someone]] should probably elaborate for those who are curious: Lois yells at him, and Peter responds with the speech John Candy delivers in ''PlanesTrainsAndAutomobiles''. Yes, the entire speech-- almost word for word. And Lois immediately forgives him.
*** And don't forget they end it by [[DontExplainTheJoke explaining the joke]] with Chris going 'haa, movie reference'. Just in case ya didn't get it. DID YA GET IT?! He's stealing a monologue word-for-word from an infinitely better and funnier movie!...''{{Futurama}}'' can't return fast enough in [[Tropers/TheDogSage my]] opinion.
* For me, the Dethroner came in ''Padre de Familia,'' when, in a cutaway gag, it's revealed Peter didn't even know what 9/11 was until months after...he walked in, saw Lois watching the coverage with tears in her eyes, and he ''laughs and says it must be a woman pilot.'' [[DudeNotFunny THAT'S NOT F*CKING FUNNY!]]
** You'd think [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] would hold more respect for the victims of 9/11, considering he was almost one of them.
***Objection, [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] did not write that episode. Let's give the guy some credit, and assume he didn't read the script until after. But, yeah...that joke should have been vetoed quick.
*** Overruled. He voices two of the main characters; of course he read the script beforehand.
* For me, the DMOS showed up in the episode "No Chris Left Behind" when the family went to see the Nutcracker and Stewie turned to Meg and said "You know Meg, female ballet dancers are famous for anorexia and bulimia, and uh...seems to work out for them. So, hintidy hint hint." Um...ok I know Meg bashing is a RunningGag for this show but that wasn't even funny. Heck the first time I saw that part in the episode I felt disgusted. In part because I've had anorexia myself in the past, and looking back on it I can only hope that I don't ever go down that road again. Telling Meg, who was just minding her own business, that she should develop an eating disorder...could he have acted any more like a unlikeable {{jerkass}}? Oh, and that's not the first time...he also deliberately picked at Jillian's issues with her weight and the knowledge that she has bulimia in order to get her to throw up all so he could take one of her teeth to give to the tooth fairy. And Jillian has always been genuinely nice to Stewie! Oh, and basically just the fact that Stewie was getting his daily lulz out of something as potentially life-threatening as having an eating disorder.
** That was very off putting to me as well. Another thing about the situation with Jillian's eating disorder that upset me was Brian's way of dealing with it. His girlfriend is causing serious harm to herself, but Brian doesn't do anything to help her because it makes her look "so hot" to him. What a selfish jackass.
* I think we should start listing all the worst {{Flanderization}} moments that have degraded Lois from a [[MamaBear loving mother and wife]] to a abusive shrew:
** "Go Stewie Go" had Lois trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, giving the [[DarthWiki/WallBanger wall banging]] excuse that Meg's boyfriend was trying to "rape" her when Meg caught them in the act, and then having the gall to insist that she could easily steal him away from her daughter if she wanted to during her "apology". Wasn't this [[CompleteMonster repulsive]] woman a mother?
** "Peter-assment" was an alright episode, as it made Peter out to be a much nicer guy than most episodes do (even counting him deciding to assault his boss), however, it finished off Lois as a likeable character for me...namely "It doesn't count as sexual harrasment if it's a woman on a man"...so let me get this straight. Men don't care if someone touches them if it's a woman, because we enjoy it no matter what, even if we really can't stand the person, and we are already deeply devoted to the woman we love? And because of that, it doesn't count as sexual harrasment? Coupled with her just ignoring the fact that Meg was, in fact, sexually harrased by a teacher...for god's sake, I never wanted a character to be permanently killed off so much.
*** I'd say it's worse than that: some have noticed that Meg isn't getting as much abuse this season as before (maybe someone's been reading this page). This was, in a way, the case here, but the conversation was so obviously meant to set up either Peter or Lois laughing at and insulting Meg that it was as if the writers figured that if they can't abuse Meg, they're not going to try to write for her.
*** Oh, Lois had an even ''worse'' moment in that episode! When Peter's boss called him to harass him over the phone, Peter begs Lois to tell her (his boss) he's not home. Lois calls him a baby, then gets back on the phone and says "Peter's in the shower...touching himself to your picture." All said with a smile on her face. So Peter has no choice but to take the call. ''What the fucking hell, woman?!''
**** The level of general CharacterDerailment is at the point of no return: I was aware that what Lois did was actually quite heinous, but I just couldn't feel bad about it. Considering that the last time Peter accused someone of sexual assault was his '''doctor''' for a '''digital rectal exam''', it was impossible for me to feel empathy for him.
***** One must remember in that episode, when Peter walked in the kitchen looking traumatised, Lois asks what's wrong, to which Peter says, "I was raped." Though it's true that Peter wasn't raped, one MUST remember that Lois's first reaction to this statement is that she '''LAUGHS!''' WTF Lois?!?
*** There's also the massive gap in logic that Lois doesn't seem to care that another woman is trying to seduce her husband.
** Lois basically telling Meg that she should kill herself in the episode "Stew-Roids". At one point in the episode Lois attempted to comfort Meg who was ''denied the right to attend a party Chris was holding at their own house''. However, Lois gives up trying to comfort Meg after 45 minutes, gives her a Sylvia Plath novel, a bottle of Ambien and leaves her to her misery, saying "whatever happens, happens." All because she couldn't be bothered to spend any more of her precious time on Meg. That moment pretty much made Lois out to be the ultimate [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] in my eyes.
** In the episode "Peter's Daughter" when Meg thinks she's pregnant, she refuses to have an abortion. Lois suggests Meg consider drinking and smoking a lot to cause a miscarriage, but not to "wimp out halfway through", because Lois ended up with Chris.
*** Not to mention when Peter's actions put Meg in a coma Peter starts to feel bad and rethink how he's been treating Meg. And what does Lois tell Peter when he says he feels like he never treated Meg as well as he should have? "Oh, don't be too hard on yourself, Peter. We all do things that we're not proud of." It's just the idea that she basically doesn't think the fact that Peter put Meg into a coma is that big of a deal. [[BerserkButton F*ck THAT! It IS a big f*cking deal!]]
* The episode that consisted of Brian getting a pilot published which was then butchered by TV execs with a subplot of Stewie suffering a severe head injury and Chris and Meg have to cover it up while he's unconscious. The jokes ranged from mediocre to DudeNotFunny. I was horrified that they tried to cover up Stewie's injury by throwing him under the car while it was pulling out, and the incest joke that was included in Brian's butchered show was disgusting.
** It's completely understandable to have a subplot where a character gets knocked out and the others pretend he's okay, but when it's an ''infant'' that's knocked out, and the family shows callous disregard of the injury to the point of negligence ([[NauseaFuel maggots growing on exposed brain matter, a goddamn raccoon gnawing at the wound]]), it just goes from being in bad taste to becoming completely, unrepentantly horrible.
** I would like to to point out that was Peter who threw Stewie under that car, because he wanted to make Lois think she was behind Stewie's injury for no good reason and and that Meg was going to take Stewie to hospital but Peter stopped. This leads to another example of Lois' [[CharacterDerailment character derailment]] when she immediately suggests a cover-up, just as Peter had been doing.
* The episode where Brian got angry over the Army being allowed to try and recruit at Meg and Chris's high school was it for me. I'd had enough of him at that point.
* Peter shooting the Native American girl (who was about to be ''[[RapeAsComedy raped]]'' no less) in "April In Quahog". Might as well rename the show to ''Misogyny Guy'' at this point.
** There's also when it's implied Meg strangled a cat to death. Seriously, '''[[CharacterDerailment Meg???]]''' Great, now she's the ''FamilyGuy'' equivalent of [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Evil Manga Kaworu]].
* The episode "Dog Gone". It was pretty much just scenes of dogs getting mutilated and killed horribly, paired with an animal rights {{aesop}}. It also shows that Brian's family would love to kill and eat him to see what he tastes like, but after hearing (falsely) that he died, they still manage to be sad about it. That was the episode that ruined the rest of the series for me.
** I seriously couldn't enjoy any part of that episode. Also, I found it weird that at the town meeting, Brian was demanding that everyone stop eating meat, even though he's a dog ... an animal that is, by nature, carnivorous. Even today, a dog's diet consists mainly of meat or meat based products and Brian's always been shown eating meat throughout the series, so from where did this come?
* This may not qualify, since it was ''technically'' on ''TheClevelandShow'', but it was a crossover episode, and the [=DMoS=] moments apply to ''Family Guy'' characters. So in this episode, Cleveland finds out that his ex-wife Loretta had died, and he doesn't know why he is so sad about it, considering that he hated her in every way possible. This seems like a decent emotional plot to an episode, except for the cause of death. Quagmire travels down to Cleveland's new (old) town to tell Cleveland that [[KarmaHoudini Peter]] had accidentally dropped a T-Rex skeleton (don't ask) on Cleveland's house from Family Guy, where Loretta was living. She was in the bathtub and fell out of the house in that silly way Cleveland did a lot, except she broke her neck when the tub hit the ground. Instead of calling an ambulance, Peter stood there and laughed at her "gross boobs." This was a horrible thing to do, even for Peter.
** Oh, AND Quagmire took Loretta's dead body, put it in a French Maid costume, and then ''had sex with it'' before driving it to Cleveland's for a proper burial.
* At the end of the episode ''FOX-y Lady'', Lois reveals that she no longer works for FOX, with no explanation given to how or why, then she gives a piss poor [[LampshadeHanging excuse]] that [[ViewersAreMorons no one cares]], to make up for the writers' inability to properly end the episode. As a writer, it's your job to atleast [[HandWave attempt]] to write a proper ending.
*The 150th episode begins with another Brian and Stewie episode. Brian eats Stewie's poo. And washes it down with Stewie's puke. Then wipes Stewie with his tongue. {{Squick}} does not even begin to describe it.
**For me, it was Brian trying to pierce Stewie's ear, and getting the pin lodged inside his ear canal and getting it stuck...I mean, ''my GOD''.
**At the end of the episode Brian appears to say "I hope you enjoyed this very special episode." This merely served as adding insult to injury.
** There was also the incredibly hamfisted character drama between Stewie and Brian, especially Brian being suicidal which comes out of nowhere and is done in the most eye rollingly bad fashion imaginable. And then afterwards Brian and Stewie proclaim that they're best friends and they love each other...which makes no sense when just a few minutes earlier, Stewie made Brian eat his poop and outright said he did it just to see if he could get Brian to do it.
** I was excited to hear that the episode was supposed to have no random cutaway scenes. I wanted to see if Family Guy would be able to stand on its own without them, and boy was I not surprised. It was a 45 minute long {{bottle episode}}, taking place entirely in a bank vault. The other fifteen minutes was just old/unaired footage. Cheapest milestone event EVER.
** The episode did not even contain humor, nor make an attempt to. In a comedy show, they didn't even try to do anything funny, or even very entertaining.
** It was like they were just trying to see if they could piss off everyone watching the show...
** Considering the episode upped Brian's Sueness to previously unheard levels, brought Stewie IMMENSELY OOC, focused it solely on those two, I have a feeling it was more of a {{take that}} to everyone who complained.
**The only episode I turned off due to sheer boredom with it all, and I can't be the only one
* The episode "Quagmire's Dad" takes the Brian hate to a new level with the blatant, unprovoked one-sided "fight" between Brian and Quagmire (who I'd already lost respect for because of his TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Brian), not to mention the subsequent death threat.
** The entire plot of the episode was cringe worthy, it starts off with the portrayal of an EasySexChange that is PlayedForLaughs and {{Squick}} for the entirety of the episode. [[DidNotDoTheResearch The sex change is shown to not only change sex but do everything else as well.]] I believe the character in question even became shorter due to the operation as she is seen in heels the rest of the episode. No one in the episode sides with transsexuals, they just seem to have varying degrees of disgust regarding the whole situation. Quagmire admitting he just wants his dad to be happy is the closest thing. To top it all of, there wasn't even a real ending, Brain and Quagmire fight and then Brain says "I fucked your dad". No resolution, No {{Aesop}}, just "Hey look! Isn't this gross?"
** This episode gets frickin' worse: Lois and Peter. I'm perfectly fine with Peter being an insensitive douche but Lois is Brian's friend. I mean I know his plots are boring but they totally treated him like garbage and chased him out and then laughed and laughed about how he was dating a transsexual instead of breaking it to him gently. Peter maybe but not Lois. [[DudeNotFunny And especially not after an episode where we learn Brian was contemplating suicide. My god these writers have lost all sense of shame and decorum.]]
** This episode shows Brian's worst descent from [[OnlySaneMan the likable voice of reason]] to UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, and then enters outright {{jerkass}} territory towards the end of the episode. He starts out needy and harbours [[SmallNameBigEgo unhealthy levels of self-importance]] when Lois isn't on-board with his every move. Upon meeting Ida, he forces a mention of the pretentious-sounding seminar he's attended to strike up a conversation, and continues to label himself a "writer" despite recent episodes showing his [[GiftedlyBad woeful ineptitude]]. Brian makes out with Ida, and presumably reach fourth base in Ida's hotel room. Upon his return home, he's pissed that Lois is unable to show genuine interest in his seminar (did he ask anyone else what they'd be up to?), but is excited to mention the woman he met last night. Sure, Lois' reaction to the photo is [[CharacterDerailment uncharacteristically harsh]], but when Brian hears from Stewie about Quagmire's (as-yet-unnamed) father having undergone gender reassignment surgery, he reacts just as brutally (and silences [[ButtMonkey Meg]] when she ''does'' ask him about the seminar). Upon {{the reveal}}, Brian's disgust is a [[{{Understatement}} protracted]] VomitIndiscretionShot that was presumably meant by the writers to appear {{squick}}y, but if we could all take a moment to consider the long-running and [[ElephantInTheLivingRoom unignorable]] quirk in the series' run of {{interspecies romance}} Brian has encountered: Ida may have a vagina that has been surgically constructed from her inverted penis, but Brian is a freakin' ''DOG''! Brian has no right to be so vomit-inducingly disgusted (or require thorough scrubbing afterward) when he discovers that his partner was not born female, when he isn't even the same species as her. To top it, yelling to Quagmire, "I fucked your dad" confirms his unwarranted prejudice, and any remaining shred of sympathy dissolves hereon. [[SarcasmMode Way to go, Brian. A real mature retort there]].
*** Sounds like another fail parody of a 90's pop reference. The Crying Game at least was treated well by ''RobotChicken''.
** Along with all this, let's not forget that Brian is the victim here, and he didn't even do anything wrong. ''He didn't know that was Quagmire's father''. And Quagmire's righteous indignation and beating of Brian is especially hypocritical when you consider the fact that there are probably hundreds of people who'd be far more justified in beating '''him''' half to death for raping them and/or their loved ones. Or maybe one of those children he's fathered, but never sees, could give him a good beating.
*** Me personally, this was the episode where I gave up on Quagmire. Yes, I could agree with some of what he said in "Jerome is the New Black" (even IF it made Brian cry), but '''senselessly beating the crap out of somebody who had no idea of what he did was wrong, and didn't EVEN want to fight back (and was RUNNING AWAY IN FEAR)''' is... just... WOW. Seriously, if there a REASON for causing friction between Quagmire and Brian, ok, fine. ...but god damn, Seth...
**** The entire reason of Quagmire beating Brian makes no sense to me. Is it normal practice in {{Eagleland}} to attack your ugh... mother's boyfriend? It looks like they just thought it would be cool make Glenn beating Brian. But [[ConfusingMultipleNegatives it's not just not funny]] it's not even an attempt to be funny. It's just horrible.
* "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". If they were going for RefugeInAudacity, they failed, because [[SomebodyElsesProblem that is]] ''[[SomebodyElsesProblem exactly]]'' [[SomebodyElsesProblem how if works in]] RealLife. It's disturbing to watch and made me feel sick.
** The joke itself was pretty funny (Ha, Dr. Seuss wrote a book named "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". This makes no sense, why would someone write such book for children? Thats makes me laugh) ManateeGag just ruined it. It didn't add anything but disturbing context.
** [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi I]] was really shocked when I first witnessed that cutaway, so nowadays, I would change the channel for a few seconds. They could've thought of a less painful cutaway to fill 22 minutes?
* All the put downs towards women in "The Splendid Source" literally made this troper say, "screw you" to her television.
** Seconded. I had given up on Family Guy, but decided to give IT one more chance. I thought this episode was kind of funny. Then I got up to the point where Peter is in the room with the smartest people in the room, and smugly comments, "Not a lot of women." Well, this woman is smart enough to skip this show and its lazy, misogynistic writers.
* I happen to be politically conservative, and swore off ''Family Guy'' after about seven seasons' worth of straw man arguments. Stewie in a Nazi uniform with a "[=McCain=]/Palin" button? Check. Peter repeating "We should bomb Iraq" at the 9/11 memorial? Check. I literally threw my ''Family Guy'' DVDs away.
** Dude, Tropers/MacPhisto is a borderline '''MARXIST''', and even he is disgusted by Seth's endless left-wing strawmanship (gives the rest of us a bad name). I believe that Sarah Palin is the worst thing to happen to this country since it was founded, and even I think "comparing-Republicans-to-Nazis" is both in bad taste and incredibly stupid.
* "Patriot Games", home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and the infamous "Shipoopi" scene. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.
* The episode "Partial Terms of Endearment" (Unaired by FOX) made me so disappointed and disturbed. Not like I have anything to do with pro-life, but somehow they managed to convince me that probably they won't do abortion. I thought "Oh, it's like season finale, maybe they decided to add new character to family with hilarity and heartwarming ensuing. That must be great, [[TheScrappy even if it won't]] things can't get worse" [[StatusQuoIsGod but no]].
** What's even more offensive is the way Peter keeps trying to induce an abortion on Lois.
** It gets even worse when Peter, for the sole purpose of providing a counter argument, is persuaded to become pro life after a 30 second video clip, even by his standards of stupidity, that's too ridiculous. Especially when he went from trying to kill the baby several times to being against abortion in the event of incest, genetic disorders, and even rape. What the fuck?
*** This is made even worse, because abortion is a serious topic, and having the [[StrawmanPolitical dumbest character on the show become the anti abortion strawman]] for no reason is completely offensive to a serious issue.
* This is going to be controversal: In one episode, Peter gets shipwrecked and Brian becomes Lois' new husband. We see that Brian has sexual interest in Lois, but she refuses to do youknowwhat, even though he is a way better father than Peter. In the end, Lois is together with Peter again and NOW she tells Brian that sie did wanted to move their beds together, elaborating on what kinds of things she would have liked to do with him. Don't get me wrong, dog-on-woman is creepy and just gross. But do you really have to tease him with this? Goddammit, he got your daughter a date with a famous sports reporter (which had one of the few funny lines in this episode BTW)! It just feels like she was saying "Yeah, you were nice, but I don't feel like you should be rewarded for it. So FUCK YOU!" This scene makes me want to pay somebody to do a Flash animation in which Lois gets repeatedly stabbed with a rusty knife.
*"Go Stewie Go". The episode was basically justifying Lois and her [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Wallbanging]] motivation of trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, being so selfish to ignore the fact that this was apparently the first normal guy Meg has ever dated (which the episode also goes out of its way to exaggeratedly point this out). Does she take a moment to respect her daughter? (or her husband, [[NegativeContinuity but she's already cheated on him before]], [[SoYeah so...]]) No! She just continues on in her already {{Scrappy}} {{Flanderization}}. [[KarmaHoudini And she gets off the whole ordeal]] with giving a simple (and horrible) apology to Meg and Peter ([[SarcasmMode wait ''silly me'']] she didn't apologise to Peter, [[WallBanger '''she blamed him''' for the whole thing!]]).
**The A-plot of "Go Stewie Go", I understand they were trying to do "Tootsie", but seriously, all they did was replace "soap opera" with "kids' show." That's it, that's all it it was, other than the "band aid" gag, there was ZERO originality.
**Peter exhibiting incestuous attraction towards Meg in the episode "Go Stewie Go" was downright disgusting and made this troper rather uncomfortable, especially when he made Meg kiss him on the lips. Given that Peter is already filling in the verbal and physical abuse aspects of being an [[AbusiveParents abusive parent]] we can now add sexual abuse as well!
**But the ultimate [=DMoS=] of the episode was the bar scene. [[FridgeLogic Did Brian just try and hit on a baby girl?]] It may have been Stewie in drag, sure, but [[CompletelyMissingThePoint the point of the costume was to fool the producers that he was ''A ONE YEAR OLD GIRL!'']] Wouldn't Brian ''also'' think that this is [[{{Squick}} a ONE YEAR OLD's hand]] that he's trying to place on his ''[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean other tail?]]''
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'''[[ThisIsGonnaSuck Well, here it is.]] [[MostTriumphantExample The worst offender of the worst offenders.]] [[SarcasmMode Enjoy.]]'''
* The episode
Heaven'' can basically be described as an anti-theist ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.- SNES Master KI
** Not to mention the above quote of "her very existence proves no benevolent force exists" is said with a complete straight face. It's not meant as a joke. It's not meant as an insult to her. It's meant as a fact. Danny Smith is the one that is the creator of this. FridgeLogic applies and means that he's therefore a non-benevolent individual that hates everyone and everything. I'll be completely honest, I watch ''Moral Orel'' and laugh at its portrayal of 'straw Christians'. Mostly because I know that most of them aren't like that, and it's a small vocal minority. But if the people who make the show want to focus on them so and empower them, it's their choice to do so. But this show, it truly hurt me and hurt my feelings. But then I've noticed that ''Family Guy'' has become more and more about being a mouth piece for far-left liberal and atheist beliefs and less about being funny. Really, if you're going to have a show be a mouthpiece, stop saying it's just for jokes, and say what it is: [[SouthPark your own personal propaganda machine.]]
*** I always saw the Meg statement as an extension of The Writer's general misogyny, interpreting "Meg" as basically "any woman who isn't hot". In this way, the statement makes [[InsaneTrollLogic vaguely more sense]], but [[BeyondTheImpossible becomes so much more disgusting as a result]].
*** I think Brian shows his true colors here. He insults Meg for being ugly... this coming from a dog. I don't know what happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but Brian apparently doesn't care. What he sees as "ugly", is totally irrelevant to God because He created what He believes is actually good. It's also worth noting that Brian completely disregards Meg's Christian messages as a whole. Whether or not you agree with a religion, any at all really, a lot of them have genuinely good messages of not stealing, not lying, and so forth. Most people of any religious affiliation (including the non-religious) would probably attest to this. Furthermore, Brian comes off as a HUGE hypocrite when he criticizes Meg for being some "crazy, outspoken, conversion-happy Christian", but it turns out that it's okay for him to convert her into an atheist. [[SarcasmMode Man I love double standards.]]
** Oh thank you for seeing the exact same problem I saw. The argument isn't even an attempt at logic, it's just "If God existed, he would've made Meg pretty." To sum up, if God existed then the atheistic creator of the cartoon would've have drawn a single character in an attractive manner. Dear Krishna, Mr. [=MacFarlane=]! Does he actually consider that a realistic reason to not believe in a God? The strangest part is that Brian's statement is accepted as a reasonable argument and the entire book burning is put to a halt and all the townspeople, who had started behaving like Nazis after becoming more religious, go back to being normal.
*** Similar to how most atheists won't spend their entire time trying to prove that everyone who is religious is an idiot Nazi and most atheists are actually quite fine with people practicing whatever religion makes them happy. But Danny Smith is the exception that proves the rule.
**** As an atheist, I was still somehow offended. It was either going far beyond the realms of parody in terms of portraying Christians, or it was the whole bringing great shame to atheists everywhere. It was just plain painful to watch.
***** The whole town converts back instantly too. Apparently Meg's existence is a pretty strong argument.
****** The really ridiculous thing is that in early seasons Brian was at least semi-religious. He had a Bible handy at times ("And the Lord said, Go Sox," in response to someone wondering what the bible verse people frequently referenced at ballgames was) and he was the only one who recognized the plagues when Peter made himself a false god, slapping Peter and declaring [[ThisIsSparta "God. Is. Pissed."]]
* That episode doesn't even pass the FridgeLogic test - God and Jesus are characters in the show, as is the Grim Reaper! Brian's venturing into FlatEarthAtheist territory saying that God doesn't exist in a universe where God can be found picking up women at the bar, all for the sake of being a mouthpiece. Also, as a liberal agnostic who used to like ''FamilyGuy'' for totally non-political reasons, I've just gotta comment that sharing his world views doesn't make the recent AuthorTract format any less preachy or condescending. The show just plain isn't funny anymore.
** Crap, at the end of the episode, it even showed that Brian's hypothesis that even though God doesn't exist (except that he does on the show), the universe is an amazing and wondrous place is wrong, as the universe was actually a molecule in the lamp on Adam West's nightstand.
** Wasn't there an episode where Meg became pretty and at the end of the episode it was concluded that being pretty wasn't good for her and she switched back to being ugly of her own free will? Which means that Meg choosing to not be pretty means there isn't a God because if there was a God he would've gone out of his way to interfere with her free will and force her to be attractive. HeadDesk, HeadDesk, HeadDesk.
* Not to mention that they managed to get the entire ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' cast to cameo and barely used them in the weakest guest appearance comedy yet on the show. I had all but given up on the show for a while, but being a TNG fan decided to sit for this one, my blood pressure steadily increasing as it became increasingly obvious that I was subjected effectively to a bait-and-switch (though I don't blame Fox for promoting the cameo, given what a train wreck the entire episode became).
** The first line of the episode implied that ''StarTrek'' convention-goers rarely see sunlight. Guess they wanted to pull out the fresh material right away.
* For the first half of the episode it seems to explicitly set up the moral that you shouldn't discriminate against someone for their faith or lack of one, or that maybe Meg just happened to take her religious belief a little too far... but nope! According to FamilyGuy, Christianity = BAD and Atheism = GOOD.
** That was the same aesop they seemed to be setting up for the episode "Familiy Goy". If I remember correctly, it ended with Jesus saying "[[BrokenAesop Six to one, they're [all religions] all complete crap]]".
** Either that or he's going with the flow of the [[{{Anvilicious}} overly passionate]] young people who [[AcceptableTargets blame religion for everything that's wrong with the Universe]]. Either way it's bad.
* Let's put it this way: this episode was so bad that ''even Seth'' had to eventually apologize for just how blatantly ''stupid'' this episode was in Jerome is the New Black (Quagmire's [[http://www.hulu.com/watch/111154/family-guy-quagmire-goes-off brutal tirade]] against Brian, that many consider Glen's CrowningMomentOfAwesome). This is the same man who approved "Prom Night Dumpster Baby" and yet ''THIS'' was the thing he apologized for. Seriously, it's that bad.
** The worst part. The single worst part of all of this... is that at the end of the episode, where someone calls out Brian, FINALLY, someone calls his bullshit, he comes home crying...and Stewie comforts him and tells him it's okay and not to worry about it. Brian has always been Stewie's first target. Sure, there's some serious FoeYay, but he ALWAYS goes the hell after Brian. And he comforts him. Comforts him and removes that nagging doubt that he's not a complete and utter failure of a character. [[INeedAFreakingDrink Someone get me a beer...]]
* The biggest irony of this whole mess is that Brian's speech at the end of the episode was ''supposed'' to be his CrowningMomentOfAwesome. Instead it wound up here.
* One has to wonder what the point of this episode was: was it meant to turn Christians into atheists? Make atheists shun their friends and family if they believed in, well, ''anything?'' Were we supposed to ''agree'' with Brian and admit that the majority of Americans are evil idiots because they believe in something? WHAT. WAS. THE. POINT?
* The reason why Meg became a Christian in the first place was because her life was starting to ''really'' suck. In other words Danny Smith arrogantly assumed that the ''only reason'' religion exists is because peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then...never mind the fact that Brian's big argument that converts the whole town to atheism is "Peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then." So, um, the exact same thing except with atheism. Not much a difference, is it?
** It also implied that the only reason people believe there isn't a God is because people's lives suck. Not because atheism is what makes sense to some people or anything. Of course not. It simply must be that all atheists are what they are because the God they don't believe in is a jerk. This episode made this atheist want to scream.
* This atheist was extremely offended that the episode portrayed Christians as if they were total morons. This is not the 13th fucking century, very few theists are that radical; not all of them are going to try to convert you or run you out of town. Have some class.
* It didn't help that the only Christians they portrayed are the vocal, extreme minority. Yes, some Christians still practice book burning but the same logic can be applied to everything: some men cheat on their wives so does that make all men evil? No.
* ''Possibly'', Brian's argument is what Christians refer to as the "problem of pain": why would God, who is Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent, allow for abusive parents, rapists, mustard gas, war etc? (In RealLife, it's a highly contested issue within the Christian faith alone.) Brian's argument might've held ''some'' water if handled properly. Instead, it came out as: "Meg, a ''fictional character'' has a really crummy life; ergo a benevolent God cannot exist." This episode, it seems, was nothing more than a logic-free TakeThat not only at Christianity, but ''any'' type of faith in the unseen.
** I want to say that first off, I am a hardcore Christian. However, this is my biggest problem with most of the quotes on this page...I feel like we're all totally missing the point. Brian's argument wasn't so much "Meg is ugly, therefore, God can't exist," it was more "Meg, why do you believe/trust in a God that allows all of these horrible things to happen to you?" (Her family hating her, her friends making fun of her, etc...) I think Brian's argument makes a little more sense than we give it credit for, but at the same time, he doesn't fully understand the Christian faith either to make a statement like that...in any case, it still fits nicely on this page.
** Yeah that's what I figured, it didn't seem like he was calling Meg "ugly" or anything, to me it seemed more like he was commenting on that the fact that nearly EVERYBODY that makes eye contact with Meg considers her ugly and is repulsed by her(not to mention the way overrused gag of her being mistaken for a guy), and he uses that logic to convince her that god dosen't exist-and that was more then enough to convince her to believe Brian, and when you consider all the abuse she's gone through, Brian's argument would naturally make perfect sense to her. I didn't have the same hatred for this episode that most people do, but it STILL definitely went too far with the ridiculously over-the-top scene with Brian being demonized by everyone just for being an Atheist.
* In somewhat of a direction toward the FridgeLogic[=/=]WallBanger portion of this, the fact that Brian is an atheist was introduced and driven toward maddening levels, completely ignoring the fact that his atheism is a direct punch in the face of the admittedly inconsistent continuity anyway. Now to be fair, the dumb line about Meg being too ugly to allow a God to exist was said by an AuthorAvatar, Brian and the fact that he said something so insanely wall banging with a straight face may have been an attempt at making it funny. This didn't make it any less jarring at the fact that Brian apparently doesn't believe in God and Jesus after having ''seen them with his own eyes, '''spent an entire episode trying to convince Peter that he shouldn't try to take over for the real God''''', and on a less notable example been the victim of otherworldly/paranormal events in the past, such as his ''entire house being sucked into nothingness.'' So either the context of this episode is that the God that has been shown in the past in the show was written off as if he never existed just to make a point or one of Brian's head injuries throughout the series caused him to forget the fact that he's been ''confronted'' by God in the past.
* If we cut past all of Danny Smith's bad logic the moral of the episode was "If God exists then why does suffering exist?". The problem with that is that, at some point, nigh-everyone in a religious society thinks of this: we didn't need an entire episode just to hear the same question.
* Wait, Meg had just become a Christian in that episode. Last time I checked people who've just joined a new religion wouldn't be that good at defending it.
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[[folder:"Family Gay"]]
*The episode where Peter leaves his jobless housewife and three kids (one of which being a baby) because he suddenly turned gay. Yes, guys, we understand that it's okay to be gay, but that doesn't give you the right to abandon all of your responsibilities without so much as a token conversation about child support. Hell, Lois even agrees that Peter didn't do anything wrong! He fucking did! He left your ass with three kids and NO WAY TO SUPPORT THEM. HE DIDN'T EVEN WAIT FOR HER TO GET A JOB SO THAT HIS FAMILY (which he should still care somewhat about because, you know, gay people aren't amoral assholes) COULD SUPPORT THEMSELVES!! YES, THATS RIGHT PETER, GO AHEAD AND JUST &^!@#&*^!$&(@#*#!$YGHQSF!!!
**Considering that it was [[RalphWiggum Peter]], they were better off without him, which [[LampshadeHanging the episode hung a lantern on]]. It had good comedic value, but it shows that the writers failed once again at preaching political correctness in a DeadBabyComedy. If he had proved ''SouthPark'' right about it just being a GagSeries, [[{{Understatement}} this Article would be a lot shorter]].
**You forgot to mention the worst parts. Peter became test subject for genetic experiments because he couldn't afford to pay for the damages a horse he bought did, almost ruining the family. SoYeah, to ruin your family and then leave them without any kind of support just because you're now gay is the right thing to do, and if you dare to say otherwise, you're a homophobe. And the most shocking thing is that everybody was putting Peter's happiness before everything, despite Peter being the cause of all the problems. I wonder why there are still so many people who says that Peter is not a blatant AntiSue.
***Some of you seem to be forgetting about Lois's billionaire father. Peter didn't need to support her, because daddy would just pay the bills.
***Did anyone forget that he was injected with ''gay person DNA''?! Did fucking ''[[{{Sonichu}} Chris-Chan]]'' write this?
***Eh, Peter's just lucky he's the main character of ''Family Guy''. [[DesignatedHero At this point, in any other show, he'd be the villain.]] No really, he would be. Just paint his skin a disgusting shade of green, put a nasty-looking sword in his hands, and you've got yourself an honest-to-badness [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Great Unclean One]].
****At this time I'm reminded of "{{Superman}} At Earth's End", a comic where guns are used to solve all the problems, and then ends with an anti-gun message. Similarly, you can't have a pro-tolerance message in an episode that makes such egregious, un-ironic use of stereotypes. Things just work a certain way, and no amount of "comedy" can make up for that.
**Lois' line "I can't change your orientation, and it'd be wrong for me to try" absolutely made NO SENSE since they DID CHANGE Peter's orientation earlier. However, [[{{Anvilicious}} banging people's head with the idea that homosexuality is not a choice was more important]].
*I simply love how Stewie suddenly takes the stance of staunch christian conservative (or perhaps christians in general, considering the show) for the sake of a temporary AuthorTract.
**Not to mention that Stewie is gay according to the {{Word of God}}
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[[folder: "Road to the Multiverse"]]
*"Road to the Multiverse" is ten minutes of poop and fart jokes interlaced with a thin plot and several Meg-is-ugly jokes. Then, in the very end, Brian from an alternate universe wants to come back to the main universe even though he [[FridgeLogic would've already gotten the chance to stay when he traveled with his Stewie through the Multiverse and didn't take that opportunity]] only to walk off and be hit by a car. The car was so predictable and obvious and that there wasn't a single person who didn't see it coming. Worse yet, alternate Brian would've been an interesting plot for a future episode but no, they killed him off instantly, which made the last seven minutes of the show worthless.
**This is exactly why the end of the Disney segment in the episode is so bad; this show is just as anti-Semitic as Seth purports Disney to be. Yes, we all know it's ''Disney'', but don't fucking pretend that this show isn't as offensive as anything that Disney puts out.
***If it was a shot at "Uncle Walt's" anti-semitism, it wasn't a very good one. If they had an animated Walt leading the charge to kill Mort, then that would have made more sense. But there wasn't, everything was ''all'' happy-scrappy until Mort showed up. The regular characters had designs reminiscent of various Disney characters (the latest being Meg's, based off of ''The Little Mermaid's'' Ursula, which came out waaayy long after Disney's death) and it gives off the impression that the Walt Disney Corporation as a whole hates Jews. And as for Family Guy not being anti-semitic? Well, let's see: the recurring Jewish character is Mort Goldman, who is pretty much a walking-talking personification of almost every Jewish stereotype known to man, his lesser seen family are pretty much his clones, and that when Peter once put up a "scare-Jew" (i.e. a scarecrow made up to look like AdolfHitler) to scare Mort away from the house so he wouldn't borrow anymore of the Griffens' stuff, Mort runs away screaming for everyone to protect Jon Stewart ("He's our most important Jew!") from the "reincarnated Hitler". So while Family Guy isn't anti-semitic per se, it does absolutely nothing to offset/subvert Jewish stereotypes. But yes, the Disney universe was a shitty joke, there is that too.
**** This troper actually ''loved'' the Disney universe segment and considers it the series' CrowningMomentOfAwesome. But, since [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] ''constantly'' makes that stupid Disney joke (Brian at the beginning of "Movin' Out, Brian's Song", the cutaway in some episode saying that Goofy goes to Hell for being involved with 9/11, etc.), I have to agree that the end of that segment was stupid. I was expecting a meta-joke about the Disney universe being too expensive to animate, and that would be why they had to leave. Not sure if that would have been better. Though, the end of that segment was not enough to make me not like that scene, "It's a Wonderful Day for Pie" and the Herbert part were still gold.
*** The thing is though, Walt Disney wasn't actually that racist, he was actually ''less racist'' than most people of his era. The reason him being anti-semetic became a popular belief was because of [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,295141,00.html a comment Brett Butler made on Letterman.]] Brett Butler's a psychotic drug addict, and was so addicted at the time that her show went through five producers in five years.
** I thought the whole Road to the Multiverse counts as a DethroningMomentOfSuck. You can literally put all the jokes in three categories. Bowel movements, Meg is ugly, and violence. Mayor [=McCheese=] gets shot, [[spoiler:alternate universe Brian gets hit by a car (predictable enough)]], John Hinkley (Reagan's attempted assassin) painted the Sistine Chapel, and Mort the Jew gets beat to death in the Disney universe.
** Wellesely Wild's anti-theism shines through again where he says Christianity holds back science here as well.
** What was really frustrating about it was the statement that without Christianity there would not have been the Dark ages. In reality, the biggest contributor to the Dark Ages was the power vacuum created by the fall of {{the Roman Empire}}, and it was largely the culture and technology brought back to Europe by the ''Crusades'' that ended them.
**Never mind the fact that Europe =/= the entire world. While Europe was enveloped in the Dark Ages, scientific advances still continued in other places like the Far East and the Islamic Empire (which reintroduced scientific and mathematic discoveries to Europe centuries after they had been lost there).
* When they went to the world where Japan won WW2. That joke was completely racist.
* This troper, a secular humanist, found the Christianity/Dark Ages joke in very bad taste.
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[[folder: "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag"]]
*The worst part of the Episode was when Brian dates an older woman was when showed the younger girl a video of himself in ''DieHard''. It wasn't funny, and it was just another use of LimitedAnimation. Considering that this is coming from ''Family Guy'', which has shown us four minutes of Conway Twitty singing with no animation ''at all'', this can be seen as an improvement.
**The episode where Brian got involved with an actual elderly woman. You know, someone who's actually OLD and not just above 21 years old. Even though that old lady died at the end of that episode, that was treated with a lot more respect and pathos then this episode saw fit to treat a woman who was, horrors of horrors, MORE THEN FORTY YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!
**The supposed {{Aesop}} of this episode was [[BrokenAesop broken beyond repair]]. Brian berates everyone for treating him poorly for dating an older woman, pointing out the hypocrisy of younger women dating older men and younger men dating older women. So, what happens? Again, the older woman tells Brian (who tells her he feels ''horrible'' for sleeping with another, younger, woman) that he's immature and that she's too good for him. Yes, according to the writers, it's not due to traditional sex roles, or {{double standard}}s, or traditional reasons that the idea of a man dating an older woman is frowned on. No, according to this episode, it's because men are immature. [[StreetFighter OF COURSE!]] I'm not sure which sex should be offended more...
*** Even though his family's reactions were jerkassy and his girlfriend seemed to suddenly and inexplicably turn into [[TheSimpsons Grandpa Simpson]], Brian's actions in that episode were pretty heinous. He pretty blatantly decided to propose in order to spite his family's prejudices, and though he apologized for cheating on her, he phrased it in a way that made it seem as though it was a good thing because it proved to him that SHE wasn't too old for him. DethroningMomentOfSuck from both sides of the argument.
**Perhaps the worst part of this episode was the writing within it. The older woman in question is screamed at by Peter, who grabs her shirt and starts demanding her age, sending her off in tears. The family seems UTTERLY DEVOTED to destroying Brian's love life. From the perspective of one who has worked very hard for his love life, I would ''beat my own kin'' if they did that. So, Brian does a good thing, comforts her, makes her feel loved and beautiful. It's amazing, maybe Brian does have a soul. Besides, age difference isn't that bad - Brian goes back and forth between 49 and 7, so hey, whatever. So, moving on from that. The woman is actually a fairly likable character. Well, we can't have that in a one shot, can we? So, in the fastest fucking case of {{Flanderization}} I've ever seen, this woman goes from being fairly on top of things and even somewhat modern to basically 80 in mannerisms and speech processes. My mother is 50. She's not talking in 1930s lingo. This is placed in to make her unsympathetic. Oh, and let's not forget the complete and utter CriticalResearchFailure - a picture is shown of the woman as a young child with her mother. Brian picks it up and comments "Huh... there's not enough stars on this flag!" in a nervous tone, implying she was born before Alaska and Hawaii were made states (1959). The woman is 50 (the episode first aired in 2009). If she's 50...and the picture shows her as a young, bipedal child with her mother (see, at least two years old, probably more)... then there WERE 50 stars on the flag...hmm. Thanks guys. I confirmed the Alaska/Hawaii thing in two minutes on TheOtherWiki. [[SarcasmMode I'm GLAD you can do the same]].
***Consider this: The entire family is ragging on her because she's "old." She's only fifty years old...In an earlier episode it was revealed that ''Peter'' is ''forty-two''. There's only eight years between them, ten between her and Lois! And ''that is what they call "old?!"''
***What's even more enraging is that Brian is about 49 in human years, which means that he's technically ''a year younger than her!'' Come ''on!''
*Lucy getting the ever-loving shit kicked out of her in "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag?" You know, I know she screwed with Charlie a lot back in ''{{Peanuts}}'' but nothing she did could you use to justify her getting kicked the crap out of her. Especially since she's a child, to make matters worse Peter actually brings up the therapy shtick she used as another reason to kick her. I dunno, maybe it's just me because I liked Lucy and don't like the concept of children being hurt... let alone a small 8-Year Old Girl all brought about [[RoadHouse a Patrick Swayze movie]] and Seth paying homage to him. Thanks Seth, I'm pretty sure Patrick would've wanted to be remembered for inspiring some idiot to beat up children.
**Not having seen the scene in particular, it sounds like a literal curb stomping, which is bad enough, but the fact that they did the same joke years before, only using Louis instead of Charlie Brown, just makes it worse. ''RobotChicken'' did something similar, but wasn't so bad, because it was so cartoonish, you could laugh at it.
**They did this joke already in ''Lethal Weapons'' (season 2), but much milder and to much better effect: Lois, in a martial arts training montage, runs to kick a football held by Lucy. The football gets yanked, Lois falls out of frame, then runs back to roundhouse Lucy, who cries. That's exactly the right amount of justice via cartoon violence that what Lucy did deserve. They ''knew'' how to do this joke right already, but have totally forgotten it since the pre-resurrection era.
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[[folder:'''Other Episodes''']]
*Hey, [=MacFarlane=], we fucking get it, you hate Jews. Enough already, okay? Really seriously getting a little sick of how much we need to hear about how much you hate Jews. Honest. Don't really need to hear Stewie smarming right at the camera about how God will kick the Jews' ass for killing Jesus. Wow. Fucking seriously, we're going to go with that bit? Really? From Stewie, not from Peter, we're really going to go with "Jews killed Christ."
**But no seriously, [=MacFarlane=] averages one Jew joke per episode. The only ethnicity he goes after as much or more are the Hispanics. Seriously, fucking enough, kk.
** Several of the writers, producers and voice actors for the show are Jewish. It's more likely to be SelfDepreciatingHumour than anti-semitism, something which American Jews are hardly alien to.
*In one episode, Jesus himself (mind you a couple of episodes before said that God and Jesus didn't exist) said that all religion was crap, and surprise, Brian agrees.
**I think that part of the episode was a response to complaints of how Brian could be an atheist when he's met God and Jesus. Rather than a clever or thoughtful explanation of how Brian could maintain his atheism, Mark Hentemenn instead has Jesus say that all religion is crap because Brian can't possibly be wrong. EVER. That's right, Brian's now officially a BlackHoleSue and the universe bends to his will. Of course that doesn't explain how Jesus has superpowers but I'm sure we'll get another episode where that's explained to the most insulting extent possible.
***Also the fact that deism isn't religious, but also believes there is a God. That could have been used, but NOOOOO, the AuthorAvatar is ALWAYS right!
****Which makes no sense as Brian's won an award for his essay and was hired by the New Yorker on the strength of his writing and worked himself to the bone (to the point of taking the mayor hostage) to fight a discriminatory law. His novel is apparently pretty lousy and accidentally a remake of [[IronEagle an existing story]], but he does seem to have a history as a talented writer. Not to mention that he was being chewed out by a guy who has been almost explicitly shown to engage in date rape, statutory rape, incest and bestiality, has left many fatherless children, and also hits on his best friend's wife (and outright slept with his other one's). The rant would have made sense if it was Cleaveland or Joe making it, but Quagmire?
*****Also, one of Quagmire's points was that he has no illusions about who he is, what he wants, and what he's after, and doesn't particularly try to hide it, either. Brian, on the other hand...
****** There's a difference between admitting that you're shallow and admitting that you're a rapist.
******When it comes to creative writing, Brian just sucks, has no originality, his best work is plagiarism and his mediocre work is unintentional plagiarism.
*The [[MoralDissonance Fighting a discriminatory law by taking the mayor hostage]] one. I'm sorry; WHAT?!?!? I don't care who you are or what you believe; tell me, for the love of all things sane, you see the problem with this! Brian, trying to prevent a gay marriage ban, takes an elected official hostage at gun point; and all it takes is a talking to from Lois about he's, surprise surprise, right again to get him to give up.
**What ticks ''This'' Troper off even more? Lois believes that gays should have the right to be together, but is against gay marriage. This is a moderate position, and indeed may be the majority one in America. But what convinces her that this opinion is wrong, wrong, wrong? Seeing Brian performing his '''''ACT OF TERRORISM''''' on the news, because obviously "he feels really strongly about this." '''''What?!''''' News flash, idiot writers: lots of people "feel really strongly" about their opinions, that has exactly ''zero'' definitive correlation to whether or not those opinions are right! To put it another way, if ''Lois'' had taken the mayor hostage to ''prevent'' gay marriage, would Brian have been so [[EasyEvangelism easily converted]] to her side, given how "strongly" she apparently believed she was right?
**Probably the worst part of that episode, for This Troper? The rape joke about Elizabeth Smart. RapeAsComedy is really toeing the line, even though this show does it constantly. But calling out the name of an ''actual'' rape victim, specifically a ''child?'' '''FUCK YOU, ASSHOLES.''' You know, I hope her ''family'' wasn't watching or anything.
*[[NostalgiaCritic ...I like to think of myself as a semi-reasonable human being, as a man of the world, so to speak, with a view somewhat grounded in comedic reality and realization. That view has been challenged. By what, you may ask?]] ''FamilyGuy''. Sweet Jebus what went wrong? It was all going so well! Then it went like ''TheSimpsons'', and each successive season got worse and worse! I persevered, oh I sat through it! If the Beatles movies couldn't break me, then certainly ''Family Guy'' wouldn't. This last season looked so harmless too. Even though every episode seemed to be composed of pure suck, there were at least moments to make up for it. But this last one... Why? Dear merciful God in Heaven, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger WHY? WHY DID CONWAY TWITTY SING FOR FIVE WHOLE MINUTES?!]] I'm...I'm ashamed to admit it...but that was the first time I turned away from a T.V. show in disgust. It was as if all [[WorseThanItSounds my senses were being raped by this single episode.]] I am a broken man... Don't cry for me, I'm already dead.
**"I'm alive! But I'm so angry, somebody's gotta pay for this!" While bad, the line was [[RefugeInAudacity so absurd and out of nowhere that I got some laughs out of that scene.]]
*''Family Guy'' has a tendency of ripping things off, shot-by-shot, word-for-word. While this effect is intentional, it comes off as greatly annoying to more than one troper. To wit:
**For me, ''FamilyGuy's'' Dethroning Moment of Suck was the "Ding Fries Are Done" song, which was an absolutely verbatim ripoff of a radio bit/viral video that had long been circulating on the Internet.
**The recreation of "Somewhere That's Green" from 'LittleShopOfHorrors''. Too much goddamn fucking filler, no gags added or anything, and all for a tired joke involving Herbert, their worst character. And not to mention the fact that Herbert is in drag in that scene. No amount of BrainBleach can wipe away the image that is now burned in my retinas.
**Adding to THAT, the show lifted, verbatim, an old joke that had been around long before the show returned from cancellation. Not a joke from any show, a "did you hear the one..." joke. The cutaway gag where Peter, dressed like a doctor, informs a husband that his wife has become a vegetable, and that he'll have to spend all his life caring for her, then follows it with "Nah, I'm just kidding, she's dead". That's probably hilarious, had you not been told that joke less than a year before the show returned from cancellation... [[DudeNotFunny Good luck telling that joke, now, and not being accused of getting it from ''Family Guy''. "Kudos" to Seth MacFarlane and pals for ripping off a source material that can't be pinpointed. Not like that's stopped them, because moment-by-moment recreations are apparently hilarious.]]
***Then there is the episode in which Peter founds his own religion. Quagmire comes to him and tells him about all the dirty things he has done. When Peter explains to him that there is no point in telling him that as there is no confession in his religion, Quagmire responds, "Are you nuts? I'm telling this to ''everyone!''" Also an old joke. It appeared before that in the third ''BlueCollarComedyTour'' movie, told by JeffFoxworthy.
*Yeesh, Meg. Where exactly it started this troper can't pinpoint (and has no real desire to look anyway), but wherever it was that Meg went from [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] teenager with self-esteem issues to punching bag qualifies as the Dethroning Moment of Suck. The fact it was done because the writers allegedly didn't know how to write for a teenage female character just makes it even more stupid. Some examples: Shot full of poison darts? Check. Thrown out of a boat, caught by fisherman, and then verbally berated? Check. Blamed and punished for everything in the series? Check yet again. Being shot POINT BLANK in the head just for greeting her father? Check and mate. And, indeed, compared to everyone else, Meg is far more likable than anyone else in the series these days.
**Agreed. I could understand it as a ''RunningGag'' (because it does make me like Meg more, because seriously, the stuff she gets put through), but Jesus, "The Road to {{The Multiverse}}" is pretty much ''the'' Dethroning Moment for me when it comes to Meg. [[spoiler:''Every single dimension'' hates her for the exact same reason: that she's not pretty enough for them ([[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]] legs in Disneyverse, Bulldog in the Dogs Rule-verse, committing seppuku in the Japanverse for being ugly and being promptly farted on. Even in the universe where Brian and Stewie see her as a sex bomb. [[ThisIsSparta What. The. Hell.]] The worst part there is they show several other women in the background and a woman who's just finished having sex with Quagmire. None come close to as hot as hot Meg]]. The shallowness really just pisses me off.
***Oh, ''God'', yes. I thought things were looking up when Meg was shown to be apparently pretty sexy in one 'verse, but then we find out she's still considered hideous? God damn you, Wellesely. ''Damn you!''
****Really, the only thing funny about the whole Meg's-ugly concept anymore is the fact that in the show's entire run, she's been voiced by two ridiculously gorgeous actresses -— Lacey Chabert and Mila Kunis, for the uninformed.
****One of the Meg's Ugly jokes that really p.o.'d this troper was when Meg was in her underwear (Which I for one enjoyed) and said to BillClinton he could have her and he went eww, and this man was in a limo with like five women who were ''WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY'' fatter than Meg's supposed to be.
*****That scene was undoubtedly intended as a Monica Lewinsky joke. Which ''might'' have been mildly funny, if the episode had aired...oh, '''EIGHT YEARS EARLIER!''' Gee, writers—why don't you throw in some O.J. Simpson jokes while you're at it? Oh, ''wait....''
***The one I hated was when she is begging to get raped, because no other man would have her, and the horrified criminal runs away in disgust.
**[[Tropers/{{Jonn}} I]] sat down for that episode telling myself, "Okay, let's see how long before The Writers bash Christians." Four minutes later, I changed the channel, noted the time for the WriterOnBoard page, and have never watched a new ''Family Guy'' again.
*The MileyCyrus episode had one that was quite disturbing. Brian asks Stewie to reprogram Miley Cyrus into being Brian's sex slave and since she's a minor, Brian is a pedophile (oh God, they're gonna make him the new Herbert!). While that's disgusting enough on its own, Brian justifies this by saying that he's 7. This only makes things worse because now [[FridgeLogic every girl Brian has dated is now a pedophile]]. While he would normally be considered 49 technically (in dog years, since one dog year equals 7 human years), he himself said he's 7 and he can't have it both ways. Either he is 49 and going after a 17 year old (which even Stewie found unacceptable) or else he's 7 and going after a 17 year old (which somehow made everything okay?) and both ways are {{squick}}y.
**Her age isn't even the whole of it. They wanted to re-program her to have sex with Brian against her free will. She may have been a robot, but the implications of rape were definitely there - her being underage only makes an already really creepy moment worse.
***Take into mind that Brian is a dog....as in not a human...[[{{Squick}} how many girlfriends has he had?]]
***What about the scene from the ''HannahMontana'' show where Miley's dad (who is played by her real father) told her to put on her wig so he could have sex with her under the notion that Hannah is not his daughter? Seriously, how many incest jokes do they have to have?
**Don't forget that the Evil Monkey is really a pretty nice guy. More than a few people claimed that was a JumpTheShark moment.
*"Stew-roids". This episode was probably just to get fans of the new, gay, Stewie (yes, they exist) to watch it when it turns out that it was a "Meg episode". But ''that's'' not the problem. Then Connie dates Chris (long story) just to make him "cool". But '''that's''' not the problem. Then Chris breaks up with Connie. But '''''that's''''' not the problem. The problem? Well, Connie "teams up" with Meg to get back at Chris, so Meg gets Neil to show an embarrassing video of Chris to get him to be "not cool" anymore, then ''the freaking principal of the school'' just jumps out of nowhere and says that ''Connie'' is now "cool" again for "getting back at Chris". But...when did Connie do anything? Meg at least gave Neil the deal. Now, does this show run on StatusQuoIsGod or not? They could have done it better, MUCH better. Bonus negative points for making Meg look like a [[PsychoLesbian lesbian creep]] near the end. (Tropers/GreatPikminFan)
**What the principal said was that Connie was popular because the guy who dethroned her had himself been dethroned. Therefore, anything he did was considered irrelevant.
***And despite the title being "Stew-roids", the whole reason he got really buffed up was to get revenge on Susie for humiliating him at the party -- and yet at no point does he ever go back to challenge her and his muscles get totally wasted. They also wasted a good opportunity to have him beat the shit out of Brian, and yet by the end of the episode his muscles waste away, having accomplished nothing -- and Brian chases him out a window and he flies away using his flappy skin.
*Without even getting into the politics, what really got me was the episode where Stewie questions the obvious PlotHole of Brian, a 7-year-old dog, having a teenaged son. Brian's response is "If you don't like it, go on the Internet and complain" (yes, I am aware of the irony). Because obviously, no matter how crappy your own writing skills are, all it takes to defend yourself is to call your opponents nerds with no life. Way to bite the hand that feeds you writers. (Tropers/{{AmuroNT1}})
**There's nothing inherently wrong with intentionally invoking the RuleOfFunny, so long as you remember that the key word is "funny".
***That moment was when I (Tropers/MetalShadowX) declared the seventh season to be the absolute worst. I'm pretty lenient on the show (Even ignoring the stupider crap listed here), but that was uncalled for; I also didn't like the other episode scenes with this "joke", but that was definitely the worst joke yet. With season 8 having no Conway Twitty segment in sight, I'd say things are looking up.
***They do the same in the episode "I Dream of Jesus". "Ha, ha! He's on the internet, and I'm in college!" Considering college students are probably one of Family Guy's biggest markets, I'm surprised how few people seem to have noticed the huge TakeThat against the target audience.
*In "Road to Germany" when Stewie sees the Nazi uniform has a [=McCain=]/Palin 08 tag on it. I don't hate this for political reasons, I hate this because this episode aired in OCTOBER of 2008. That joke would be relevant for one month and then it would seem off-putting. We know you guys are Democrats, and speaking as a Democrat I can say it makes the rest of us look terrible.
** The entire episode, really. [[DudeNotFunny It's all over the map.]]
*The episode where they travel to Texas. There's playing up stereotypes for humor, and there's presenting a direct critique of something. Both fine by themselves; ''they do not go well together''. Like bleach and ammonia. It's frightening that anyone out there is so bad at satire as to not know this; even moreso that a major network will still gladly pump the resulting cloud of toxic gas into people's homes.
** I think that this is a semi-stereotype at best. Being from Texas, I find few cowboy hat-wearing, rootin'-tootin', hicks. However, I imagine some Texans do indeed enjoy filling this stereotype while traveling to irritate other people. Sadly, it seems that quite a few non-Texans are surprised when they realize that not every Texan is a horse-wranglin', cattle-russlin', stereotype. Still, the other presumptions made by Seth and his crew are definitely below the belt.
**And then there's the pretense to get the Griffins to Texas: Stewie throws up in church after drinking too much wine and eating communion wafers, leading people to believe he's been possessed. So the ''whole town'' shows up to take Stewie away from his family to ''perform an exorcism'', and the Griffins '''leave Rhode Island'''. Never mind the fact that most church-sanctioned exorcisms are only for extreme cases -- the '''whole fucking town''' thinks that taking a child away from its family to perform a dangerous and potentially fatal religious practice based on a single instance of that child throwing up in church is '''A GOOD THING TO DO?!''' Oh, and let's not forget that while they're on the way to Texas, the Griffins learn that '''the police''' are looking for Stewie. Let me repeat that: '''the police are looking for a child because he may be possessed.''' Listen, I know it's just ''FamilyGuy'', and it's not meant to be intelligent entertainment on any level, but still... this qualifies as an Extreme DarthWiki/WallBanger in my opinion, and one of the absolute dumbest moments in television history.
***Also, considering that Stewie is like, an '''INFANT''', and infants vomit a lot, '''it makes even LESS SENSE''' that they would assume that he is possessed ''simply because he barfed'' '''AFTER EATING A LOT'''. WHAT ARE THESE MORONIC POLICEMEN ON?
***I also like that, despite the fact that the Griffins are stuck inside their house while it is surrounded by an angry mob, in the next scene they have somehow gotten into their car.
***Don't forget the fact that the Texans ''immediately'' try to execute Peter when he tells them he's retarded. Yes, Texas ''did'' execute a mentally retarded man, but he shot a cop. ''[[CriticalResearchFailure They don't try to kill retarded people for simply existing]]''.
**What annoyed me the most about the episode was Brian's short anti-Texas rant that was flirting with being a BigLippedAlligatorMoment where he notes that Texas is "A Red State Full of Right-Wing Nutjobs". Okay, [=MacFarlane=] or whoever the hell wrote this ep, I have one question for you: Have you NEVER heard of Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, or ANY OTHER GODDAMN URBAN SPRAWL IN TEXAS!? Seriously, there are some areas in Texas that are so Blue they make LA look Red. The only reason Texas is a Republican stronghold is because the suburbs around the cities tend to be more red as well as the large population nested in the Panhandle and the Guadelupe Mountains...
*"The Juice Is Loose": it was extremely dated (which they lamely tried to cover up in the intro), the jokes seemed to be stolen from a lame talk show circa 1993 and the ending was such a lame {{Shaggy Dog|Story}} moment. This is proof that if an episode can be dated BEFORE IT EVEN AIRS, it won't be long until the entire show become old and stale.
**I would like to point out that in two past episodes they made jokes that made O.J. innocent in the murder, including a news broadcast the real killer was found, and then all of a sudden he's deemed the murder again, talk about SeasonalRot.
*For [[DreadBaron me]] the final minutes of "Lois Kills Stewie" was the DMOS. The episode was (or so I thought) Stewie's final appearance, as his plans had finally succeeded. In a matter of minutes, we go from Stewie's "last hurrah" turns into a simulation. This was the breaking point, in my opinion.
**Still the [[strike: LampshadeHanging]], correction: the '''expected''' lampshade hanging with [[DontExplainTheJoke Brian and Stewie talking about how people would be disappointed]] [[ItGotWorse only made it worse]].
*[[Tropers/{{vampireklepto}} For me]], they started to get a bad omen watching Stewie's [[VillainSong over-the-top song about world domination]]. Ironic that part of the lyrics berated ''TheSimpsons'' for [[TakeThat not being funny anymore]], when ''Family Guy'' has managed it in fewer seasons. The main problem is watching the degeneration from actual jokes to just sex and violence (watch the chicken fights in order, they start getting a lot darker) and after watching "Love Blactually" with the most annoying, preachy, self-righteous Brian I think gives [[TheSimpsons Lisa Simpson]] a run for her money, I don't have high hopes of the rest of season 7.
*I stuck by Family Guy through the first 7 seasons broadcast in the UK. Then came "I dream of Jesus". Then I saw how dependent the show had become on cutaway or recurring unfunny gags drawn out so damn long, as well as all the political stuff Seth had seeped through lately. That one episode caused me to have enough of the entire show.
**Perhaps this Christian might be looking into this a bit to deeply, but what was up with their portrayal of Jesus as an immature brat in the last half of the episode? Where did that characterization come from at all? The first half of the episode played JesusWasWayCool fairly straight, then dropped it entirely for "immature celebrity" gags featuring Jesus. And in the end, the make Peter out to be more mature than Jesus; maybe it would have been more understandable (if not arrogant) if Brian was the one lecturing Jesus at the end... but ''[[RalphWiggum Peter]]''?
*My personal BerserkButton is the episode "Prick Up Your Ears", where the students at Meg's high school take abstinence pledges instead of being taught safe sex. Now, on one level I can agree with the basic {{Aesop}} that safe sex should be taught and condoms should be used...but what really turned this episode into a [=DMoS=] for me was the implication that if you deliberately choose not to have sex, there's something seriously wrong with you. [[RapeIsOkWhenItIsFemaleOnMale Apparently, according to Lois, rape is alright when it's used as a teaching tool to demonstrate to people why they shouldn't be abstinent.]] So if I, though the freedom of choice that the episode is supposed to promote, decide I don't want to have sex, it's alright for me to be raped as a means of "enlightening" me? Yikes.
**Especially the part about abstinence not being a "reasonable choice". That's like saying you can only either stay away from cigarettes your whole life or smoke 2 cartons every day, there is no in between.
*The one where Quagmire begins to rape [[TheSimpsons Marge]] and then she gives in is a particularly bad example. Matt Groening himself was pissed and chewed [=MacFarlane=] out. Eventually even [=MacFarlane=] admitted the joke was in really bad taste.
**For me, Quagmire crossed the MoralEventHorizon when he did that. Yeah guys, go ahead and show my favorite childhood characters get raped and killed. (Tropers/{{Emperordaein}})
***It gets worse. [[RapeIsLove Marge eventually GIVES IN]]. And after doing it with her, he kills the entire Simpsons family. [[ThisIsSparta WHAT. THE. FUCK.]] [[NoJustNo IS wrong with these people]]?! Some fans do take some solemn refuge in the thought that after Maggie's distinctive pacifier sucking is heard, there is a pause before the last gunshot is heard, which some fans like to interpret as Maggie taking the gun off him and doing him in. Would be bloody glorious if that actually happened, even if it wouldn't quite make up for the previous (appalling) joke.
***In my opinion, one of the worst DarthWiki/{{wall banger}}s about that whole segment was that it could have actually made for a decent joke/sight gag - if they cut it off right before it went straight into DudeNotFunny with the aforementioned cold-blooded murder (or, if you prefer, [[RapeIsLove Marge giving in]]).
**The biggest wallbanger comes in the DVD commentary for the episode where [=MacFarlene=] goes off on a long, unfunny tangent in which he goes on a long, whiny tirade about the joke being cut for syndication, insisting it's some sort of conspiracy perpetrated by Fox because he insulted their beloved cash cow (as opposed to the fact that it was a tasteless joke involving rape, murder and infanticide) then goes on to say the joke was justified because the Simpsons had already made several (Minor, mostly in good will) jokes at Family Guy's expense.
* My. God. Even after giving up on this show forever IT STILL MANAGES TO DISAPPOINT ME. On the 61st Emmys (2009) ''Family Guy'' did a segment for the show. Can you guess what they did? Have the family argue who's going to win? Have Peter meet the nominees? Do something funny? Nope. They repeated a joke. Which joke? THE ONE THAT HAS STEWIE BEATING UP BRIAN. THE EXACT SAME JOKE. The only thing they did change was the lines. And in turn, MADE THE FACT THAT STEWIE BEATS UP BRIAN MAKE NO SENSE. Any you know what, people laughed. TV's finest writers, actors, and other people laughing at this sick excuse for a joke. I died a little inside.
*What's even more stunning than "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" is "420", where Brian basically serves as a mouthpiece for pro-pot legalization propaganda, from conspiracy theories to all the supposed wonderful benefits that society receives once it's done. Not once does the episode really suggest that anything bad might happen as a result of wide-spread pot use, and the status quo is restored purely as a result of one man's greed.
** ''[[Tropers/LoneHoundoom I]] most certainly object to jokes implying that you can only enjoy [[DoctorWho Doctor]] [[HePannedItNowHeSucks Who]] if you're high.'' Not cool, man, not cool.
* [[Tropers/{{Demetrios}} I]] pretty much stopped watching the show after the episode "Family Goy". Why, you may ask? I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]].
**Bravo, Mark. You took one of the most chilling and disturbing scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' and played it for laughs (a shirtless Peter casually attempts to shoot Lois with a sniper rifle, all while his cigarette sits on the balcony ledge (and since when did they have a balcony?)). The only way that could've made a more tasteless reference to the Holocaust would be by having Mort Goldman complain about how dirty a gas chamber is. Of course, Hentemenn will probably read this, and think that's a great idea...
*When Quagmire gets the cat, and the other guys get annoyed and decide to shave it. We see Peter "shaving" it, actually killing it, complete with shrieks of pain from the cat, and blood spurting with each cut, landing on Peter and everywhere else. Besides not being funny in any conceivable way, this drags Peter's character and intelligence to depths never imagined, and crossed the MoralEventHorizon. The eventual payoff at the end of the episode reinforces these new lows.
**And it is even worse when you (miraculously) make it through to the end, where Quagmire is offering $200 dollars for the information of the whereabouts of his cat. Peter grabs the money out of Quagmire's hand and says he killed the cat in a very callous tone and walks off. Credits roll. '''WHAT!!!???'''
*The episode where they make fun of Carrot Top for his alleged over-reliance on props in order to be funny...because its not like ''FamilyGuy'' uses something way too much for the purpose of comedy.
*After watching a scene where Peter listed "all the brown people you can rape" as a benefit of joining the U.S. Navy in "Saving Private Brian", I swore myself off of ''Family Guy'' forever.
*When they started doing a rape or domestic violence joke at least, oh, once an episode if not more. LOL a woman is being horribly assaulted! I like dark humor, but there's a world of difference between say, Sarah Silverman's infamous bit in ''TheAristocrats'' and in ''Family Guy'' where there's no other joke besides...a woman being raped. Or horribly beaten. And Peter's "Oh get over it, it's a cartoon!" was particularly sickening cause I'm even more offended by the laziness and cowardice of that defense than I am the actual jokes themselves.
**"[[AquaMan You shouldn't have]] [[CompleteMonster led him on.]]" I first saw that gag along with a friend that had been a victim of sexual assault. I had voiced my concerns with her about my own disdain over how Meg's abuse was being played for laughs, having been a child abuse victim myself, but that ''AquaMan'' joke was the beginning of the end. Namely, the end of watching ''Family Guy'' ever again. We found that to be the turning point, sort of like CerebusSyndrome for being incredibly distasteful. You can't just flatly mirror real-life ignorant statements for laughs. Some hate later episodes for basically saying "THIS IS A JOKE", but we hated the series far before then, when they started saying "THIS IS SEXIST/RACIST/ETC." ''and playing this ignorance for laughs.'' Like, when ''KingOfTheHill'' is doing its usual thing, you're just like, "Ha ha, Bible-belt StrawmanPolitical conservative hijinks!" When ''FamilyGuy'' tries something similar, your reaction is more like, "Ha h--wait, incredibly offensive hijinks with a touch of TruthInTelevision? DudeNotFunny." It's hard to classify this under a definitive episode, but the ''AquaMan'' joke is definitely when I first started realizing just how badly these subjects were being handled.
* Next to ''DrawnTogether'', this is the animated show that '''defines''' NegativeContinuity, but when it comes to the characters' backgrounds, you used to look for a little consistency. For most of the show, Peter was the son of an Irish-Catholic, but discovered that one of his ancestors was a black man who was enslaved by his wife's family. And since that ancestor was renamed "Nate Griffin", it is logical to assume that Nate was from Peter's father's side of the family. Even "Untitled Griffin Family History" acknowledged Nate as a member of the family. But then, in one extremely stupid episode, we discover that not only was Francis Griffin '''NOT''' Peter's father, but Peter's father was a drunk living in Ireland. So Nate's outta the picture, unless the writers pulls out of their ass an explanation that Nate went over to Ireland for some reason (which until he does makes Nate a complete waste of time). And then comes ''"Padre de Familia"'' where it turns out that not is only Peter at least three-quarters Irish, but he was actually born from a failed abortion in Mexico. So now all of a sudden, Peter is now technically Mexican and is an illegal. [[DidNotDoTheResearch Putting aside that not only do immigration laws NOT work that way]], having three biological kids and living your entire life in America would at least not make him an illegal. And he has to work with migrant workers on his father-in-law's mansion because he want to get in touch with his non-existent roots, only for a SnapBack at the end. I won't get into detail about Lois' family's changes. For the love of God ([[StrawAtheist oh, wait...]]) guys, why do you feel the need to change what little you had established?
** In ''Family Guy'', immigration laws (like everything else) work the way that would most effectively create an {{anvilicious}} [[StrawmanPolitical strawman conservative]].
* The episode "Business Guy". The episode didn't exactly do or say anything offensive but it suffered from major plot holes, poor writing, an arbitrary resolution, and had only a few mediocre jokes. This isn't the offensive episode that ruins a show, this is the mediocre episode that makes people realize a show has run out of steam. Peter takes over Carter Pewterschmidt's company after a strip club sequence, whereupon the episode meanders along for 20 minutes (with a mediocre Quagmire joke in it) then tries to use a ''ScoobyDoo'' reference that ''Scooby Doo'' fans are sick of.
* I know it's ''Family Guy'', and it lives to be offensive, but is anyone else starting to notice that the show has a bit of a fixation on Jewish stereotypes and antisemitic gags? We have Peter reenacting scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' for laughs, an entire segment consisting of Mort Goldman coming up with dozens of ways to call Jews cheap.
** Here's something strange worth noting-- when Mort Goldman would originally appear, his large "weakling" personality was the source of comedy from him. Probably three years later after the show returned in 2005, jokes about him started to focus on his being a Jew. I am getting such a bad vibe from that shift in humor.
** Honestly, it goes beyond antisemitic jokes. There is a ton of casual racism that's just played out for laughs, especially in regard to blacks. The first few times I noticed it was from Brian which, alright, fine; Brian's a staunch progressive with a hidden, slightly racist streak inherited from his father. But then the jokes started coming from Stewie as well. And then every other character. I know the entire cast has been more or less [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into complete jackasses but when the racist jokes come so often and from every character, it starts to seem like maybe [[WriterOnBoard the writers have some issues]].
* Is it just me or has there been a lot of Robin Williams bashing lately? The cutaway in "[=McStroke=]" was lame enough, but then in "Baby Not On Board" a cutaway showed the kids in ''PatchAdams'' killing themselves over Robin's jokes (Something ''MadMagazine'' [[ItsBeenDone already did a decade earlier!]]), "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag" had ''WhatDreamsMayCome'' as one of the [=DVDs=] no one wanted to buy, and most recently in "Big Man On Hippocamus" there was a lame cutaway gag where the joke basically is "Robin isn't funny anymore". Right. [[SarcasmMode Because antisemitism, misogyny, and three minutes of Conway Twitty singing are much funnier than]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTAcw9puvY this]]. And don't think I'm complaining about all this because I'm a butthurt Robin fangirl. I'm complaining because these {{Take That}}s are unoriginal and not clever at all. My only consolation is that they haven't done a {{Gorn}}-filled animated snuff film ala ''{{Futurama}}''... yet. I wouldn't put it past them though.
* The second ''StarWars'' parody managed to be [[SoOkayItsAverage surprisingly alright]], its main flaw coming from missing out on the chance to make jokes (Missed Moment Of Funny?). The abortion joke, however, was [[DudeNotFunny just tasteless]].
* In the episode "Extra-Large Medium," the first gag of the show is Peter skating around in circles shouting "StarlightExpress" over and over. Apparently just [[ShallowParody saying the name of the thing you're making fun of]] counts as a joke now. Taking a page out of the ''SeltzerAndFriedberg'' book of comedy?
** The entire episode is a slap in the face to [[SarahPalin a certain politician]]. Subtle political satire is good, but this is just pathetic. The whole concept of the plot is mean-spirited and completely unnecessary. Said politician understandably criticized the episode for taking shots at someone who was supposed to be miles away from political crossfire. In response the actor who portrayed the character in question proceeded to defend her position and attack the politician for being hyper-sensitive and treating her son poorly. But here's the punchline-Seth backs her up. Not surprising that the actor would defend her own character (she was paid to voluntarily act, mind you), and proceed to explain that the attack was on the politician, not the child, which is not only still in poor taste, but is also a terrible excuse. Not to mention, more unlikely than an episode without an anti-Chrstian/Republican undertone. Her whole "get a sense of humor" is about as weak of an argument as they come. I dare that actor to publicly tell that to every single parent with a Downs Syndrome child, or someone who actually has the syndrome. Just think about it.
* Did anyone else {{facepalm}} after watching Lois make fun of Brian for dating an idiot in ''Whistle While Your Wife Works''? Especially since said idiot was only about as dumb Lois's husband, but much nicer, hotter and more infinitely more mentally stable and emotionally mature?
** Not just that Jillian is a much better companion than Peter, but considering that Lois knows that Brian has always loved her (Lois) since ''Brian in Love'' in Season 2 (and re-iterated in ''Play It Again, Brian''), it was downright cruel for her to mock Brian for his romantic choices. The guy is trying to preserve his friendships with you and your husband, and your marriage, by moving on and looking for someone else, and you throw it back in his face?!
* For me, another DMOS has to be what they did with Connie's character. Originally she was just the popular [[TheLibby Libby]] character who would make fun of Meg for her efforts to try to fit in with the popular kids. But nowadays she goes out her way to tease Meg even if Meg is just minding her own business, and even though Meg honestly wanted to be friends with Connie in the past. It just was fucking cruel in the "Stew-Roids" episode where Meg shows Connie the cuts she deliberately gave herself over the years as a result of Connie's cruel treatment of her when Connie asked Meg for help to make Chris "uncool". Because in later episodes if anything even after seeing how badly Meg has been hurt by her bullying (and how Meg cuts herself as a result of it) she ''still'' treats Meg like shit, if not more so.
* Ugh, the episode ''Baby Not On Board'', we all knew Peter is an idiot but at least he has some plausible reasons for it. Here it just...I don't have the words for it but man I know I couldn't be the only person who wanted to punch out Peter for his mind blowing stupidity. But no, NO, that's not the worst of it. After all the crap he puts his family through, Lois finally blows up at him for it. And then...feels ashamed when Peter ''rebuffs'' her for it? WHAT?! No! Nononononono. {{Rule of Funny}} or not, I can't give this show that one. There are just some {{Karma Houdini}} moments I can't forgive.
** [[Tropers/UberCream Someone]] should probably elaborate for those who are curious: Lois yells at him, and Peter responds with the speech John Candy delivers in ''PlanesTrainsAndAutomobiles''. Yes, the entire speech-- almost word for word. And Lois immediately forgives him.
*** And don't forget they end it by [[DontExplainTheJoke explaining the joke]] with Chris going 'haa, movie reference'. Just in case ya didn't get it. DID YA GET IT?! He's stealing a monologue word-for-word from an infinitely better and funnier movie!...''{{Futurama}}'' can't return fast enough in [[Tropers/TheDogSage my]] opinion.
* For me, the Dethroner came in ''Padre de Familia,'' when, in a cutaway gag, it's revealed Peter didn't even know what 9/11 was until months after...he walked in, saw Lois watching the coverage with tears in her eyes, and he ''laughs and says it must be a woman pilot.'' [[DudeNotFunny THAT'S NOT F*CKING FUNNY!]]
** You'd think [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] would hold more respect for the victims of 9/11, considering he was almost one of them.
***Objection, [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] did not write that episode. Let's give the guy some credit, and assume he didn't read the script until after. But, yeah...that joke should have been vetoed quick.
*** Overruled. He voices two of the main characters; of course he read the script beforehand.
* For me, the DMOS showed up in the episode "No Chris Left Behind" when the family went to see the Nutcracker and Stewie turned to Meg and said "You know Meg, female ballet dancers are famous for anorexia and bulimia, and uh...seems to work out for them. So, hintidy hint hint." Um...ok I know Meg bashing is a RunningGag for this show but that wasn't even funny. Heck the first time I saw that part in the episode I felt disgusted. In part because I've had anorexia myself in the past, and looking back on it I can only hope that I don't ever go down that road again. Telling Meg, who was just minding her own business, that she should develop an eating disorder...could he have acted any more like a unlikeable {{jerkass}}? Oh, and that's not the first time...he also deliberately picked at Jillian's issues with her weight and the knowledge that she has bulimia in order to get her to throw up all so he could take one of her teeth to give to the tooth fairy. And Jillian has always been genuinely nice to Stewie! Oh, and basically just the fact that Stewie was getting his daily lulz out of something as potentially life-threatening as having an eating disorder.
** That was very off putting to me as well. Another thing about the situation with Jillian's eating disorder that upset me was Brian's way of dealing with it. His girlfriend is causing serious harm to herself, but Brian doesn't do anything to help her because it makes her look "so hot" to him. What a selfish jackass.
* I think we should start listing all the worst {{Flanderization}} moments that have degraded Lois from a [[MamaBear loving mother and wife]] to a abusive shrew:
** "Go Stewie Go" had Lois trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, giving the [[DarthWiki/WallBanger wall banging]] excuse that Meg's boyfriend was trying to "rape" her when Meg caught them in the act, and then having the gall to insist that she could easily steal him away from her daughter if she wanted to during her "apology". Wasn't this [[CompleteMonster repulsive]] woman a mother?
** "Peter-assment" was an alright episode, as it made Peter out to be a much nicer guy than most episodes do (even counting him deciding to assault his boss), however, it finished off Lois as a likeable character for me...namely "It doesn't count as sexual harrasment if it's a woman on a man"...so let me get this straight. Men don't care if someone touches them if it's a woman, because we enjoy it no matter what, even if we really can't stand the person, and we are already deeply devoted to the woman we love? And because of that, it doesn't count as sexual harrasment? Coupled with her just ignoring the fact that Meg was, in fact, sexually harrased by a teacher...for god's sake, I never wanted a character to be permanently killed off so much.
*** I'd say it's worse than that: some have noticed that Meg isn't getting as much abuse this season as before (maybe someone's been reading this page). This was, in a way, the case here, but the conversation was so obviously meant to set up either Peter or Lois laughing at and insulting Meg that it was as if the writers figured that if they can't abuse Meg, they're not going to try to write for her.
*** Oh, Lois had an even ''worse'' moment in that episode! When Peter's boss called him to harass him over the phone, Peter begs Lois to tell her (his boss) he's not home. Lois calls him a baby, then gets back on the phone and says "Peter's in the shower...touching himself to your picture." All said with a smile on her face. So Peter has no choice but to take the call. ''What the fucking hell, woman?!''
**** The level of general CharacterDerailment is at the point of no return: I was aware that what Lois did was actually quite heinous, but I just couldn't feel bad about it. Considering that the last time Peter accused someone of sexual assault was his '''doctor''' for a '''digital rectal exam''', it was impossible for me to feel empathy for him.
***** One must remember in that episode, when Peter walked in the kitchen looking traumatised, Lois asks what's wrong, to which Peter says, "I was raped." Though it's true that Peter wasn't raped, one MUST remember that Lois's first reaction to this statement is that she '''LAUGHS!''' WTF Lois?!?
*** There's also the massive gap in logic that Lois doesn't seem to care that another woman is trying to seduce her husband.
** Lois basically telling Meg that she should kill herself in the episode "Stew-Roids". At one point in the episode Lois attempted to comfort Meg who was ''denied the right to attend a party Chris was holding at their own house''. However, Lois gives up trying to comfort Meg after 45 minutes, gives her a Sylvia Plath novel, a bottle of Ambien and leaves her to her misery, saying "whatever happens, happens." All because she couldn't be bothered to spend any more of her precious time on Meg. That moment pretty much made Lois out to be the ultimate [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] in my eyes.
** In the episode "Peter's Daughter" when Meg thinks she's pregnant, she refuses to have an abortion. Lois suggests Meg consider drinking and smoking a lot to cause a miscarriage, but not to "wimp out halfway through", because Lois ended up with Chris.
*** Not to mention when Peter's actions put Meg in a coma Peter starts to feel bad and rethink how he's been treating Meg. And what does Lois tell Peter when he says he feels like he never treated Meg as well as he should have? "Oh, don't be too hard on yourself, Peter. We all do things that we're not proud of." It's just the idea that she basically doesn't think the fact that Peter put Meg into a coma is that big of a deal. [[BerserkButton F*ck THAT! It IS a big f*cking deal!]]
* The episode that consisted of Brian getting a pilot published which was then butchered by TV execs with a subplot of Stewie suffering a severe head injury and Chris and Meg have to cover it up while he's unconscious. The jokes ranged from mediocre to DudeNotFunny. I was horrified that they tried to cover up Stewie's injury by throwing him under the car while it was pulling out, and the incest joke that was included in Brian's butchered show was disgusting.
** It's completely understandable to have a subplot where a character gets knocked out and the others pretend he's okay, but when it's an ''infant'' that's knocked out, and the family shows callous disregard of the injury to the point of negligence ([[NauseaFuel maggots growing on exposed brain matter, a goddamn raccoon gnawing at the wound]]), it just goes from being in bad taste to becoming completely, unrepentantly horrible.
** I would like to to point out that was Peter who threw Stewie under that car, because he wanted to make Lois think she was behind Stewie's injury for no good reason and and that Meg was going to take Stewie to hospital but Peter stopped. This leads to another example of Lois' [[CharacterDerailment character derailment]] when she immediately suggests a cover-up, just as Peter had been doing.
* The episode where Brian got angry over the Army being allowed to try and recruit at Meg and Chris's high school was it for me. I'd had enough of him at that point.
* Peter shooting the Native American girl (who was about to be ''[[RapeAsComedy raped]]'' no less) in "April In Quahog". Might as well rename the show to ''Misogyny Guy'' at this point.
** There's also when it's implied Meg strangled a cat to death. Seriously, '''[[CharacterDerailment Meg???]]''' Great, now she's the ''FamilyGuy'' equivalent of [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Evil Manga Kaworu]].
* The episode "Dog Gone". It was pretty much just scenes of dogs getting mutilated and killed horribly, paired with an animal rights {{aesop}}. It also shows that Brian's family would love to kill and eat him to see what he tastes like, but after hearing (falsely) that he died, they still manage to be sad about it. That was the episode that ruined the rest of the series for me.
** I seriously couldn't enjoy any part of that episode. Also, I found it weird that at the town meeting, Brian was demanding that everyone stop eating meat, even though he's a dog ... an animal that is, by nature, carnivorous. Even today, a dog's diet consists mainly of meat or meat based products and Brian's always been shown eating meat throughout the series, so from where did this come?
* This may not qualify, since it was ''technically'' on ''TheClevelandShow'', but it was a crossover episode, and the [=DMoS=] moments apply to ''Family Guy'' characters. So in this episode, Cleveland finds out that his ex-wife Loretta had died, and he doesn't know why he is so sad about it, considering that he hated her in every way possible. This seems like a decent emotional plot to an episode, except for the cause of death. Quagmire travels down to Cleveland's new (old) town to tell Cleveland that [[KarmaHoudini Peter]] had accidentally dropped a T-Rex skeleton (don't ask) on Cleveland's house from Family Guy, where Loretta was living. She was in the bathtub and fell out of the house in that silly way Cleveland did a lot, except she broke her neck when the tub hit the ground. Instead of calling an ambulance, Peter stood there and laughed at her "gross boobs." This was a horrible thing to do, even for Peter.
** Oh, AND Quagmire took Loretta's dead body, put it in a French Maid costume, and then ''had sex with it'' before driving it to Cleveland's for a proper burial.
* At the end of the episode ''FOX-y Lady'', Lois reveals that she no longer works for FOX, with no explanation given to how or why, then she gives a piss poor [[LampshadeHanging excuse]] that [[ViewersAreMorons no one cares]], to make up for the writers' inability to properly end the episode. As a writer, it's your job to atleast [[HandWave attempt]] to write a proper ending.
*The 150th episode begins with another Brian and Stewie episode. Brian eats Stewie's poo. And washes it down with Stewie's puke. Then wipes Stewie with his tongue. {{Squick}} does not even begin to describe it.
**For me, it was Brian trying to pierce Stewie's ear, and getting the pin lodged inside his ear canal and getting it stuck...I mean, ''my GOD''.
**At the end of the episode Brian appears to say "I hope you enjoyed this very special episode." This merely served as adding insult to injury.
** There was also the incredibly hamfisted character drama between Stewie and Brian, especially Brian being suicidal which comes out of nowhere and is done in the most eye rollingly bad fashion imaginable. And then afterwards Brian and Stewie proclaim that they're best friends and they love each other...which makes no sense when just a few minutes earlier, Stewie made Brian eat his poop and outright said he did it just to see if he could get Brian to do it.
** I was excited to hear that the episode was supposed to have no random cutaway scenes. I wanted to see if Family Guy would be able to stand on its own without them, and boy was I not surprised. It was a 45 minute long {{bottle episode}}, taking place entirely in a bank vault. The other fifteen minutes was just old/unaired footage. Cheapest milestone event EVER.
** The episode did not even contain humor, nor make an attempt to. In a comedy show, they didn't even try to do anything funny, or even very entertaining.
** It was like they were just trying to see if they could piss off everyone watching the show...
** Considering the episode upped Brian's Sueness to previously unheard levels, brought Stewie IMMENSELY OOC, focused it solely on those two, I have a feeling it was more of a {{take that}} to everyone who complained.
**The only episode I turned off due to sheer boredom with it all, and I can't be the only one
* The episode "Quagmire's Dad" takes the Brian hate to a new level with the blatant, unprovoked one-sided "fight" between Brian and Quagmire (who I'd already lost respect for because of his TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Brian), not to mention the subsequent death threat.
** The entire plot of the episode was cringe worthy, it starts off with the portrayal of an EasySexChange that is PlayedForLaughs and {{Squick}} for the entirety of the episode. [[DidNotDoTheResearch The sex change is shown to not only change sex but do everything else as well.]] I believe the character in question even became shorter due to the operation as she is seen in heels the rest of the episode. No one in the episode sides with transsexuals, they just seem to have varying degrees of disgust regarding the whole situation. Quagmire admitting he just wants his dad to be happy is the closest thing. To top it all of, there wasn't even a real ending, Brain and Quagmire fight and then Brain says "I fucked your dad". No resolution, No {{Aesop}}, just "Hey look! Isn't this gross?"
** This episode gets frickin' worse: Lois and Peter. I'm perfectly fine with Peter being an insensitive douche but Lois is Brian's friend. I mean I know his plots are boring but they totally treated him like garbage and chased him out and then laughed and laughed about how he was dating a transsexual instead of breaking it to him gently. Peter maybe but not Lois. [[DudeNotFunny And especially not after an episode where we learn Brian was contemplating suicide. My god these writers have lost all sense of shame and decorum.]]
** This episode shows Brian's worst descent from [[OnlySaneMan the likable voice of reason]] to UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, and then enters outright {{jerkass}} territory towards the end of the episode. He starts out needy and harbours [[SmallNameBigEgo unhealthy levels of self-importance]] when Lois isn't on-board with his every move. Upon meeting Ida, he forces a mention of the pretentious-sounding seminar he's attended to strike up a conversation, and continues to label himself a "writer" despite recent episodes showing his [[GiftedlyBad woeful ineptitude]]. Brian makes out with Ida, and presumably reach fourth base in Ida's hotel room. Upon his return home, he's pissed that Lois is unable to show genuine interest in his seminar (did he ask anyone else what they'd be up to?), but is excited to mention the woman he met last night. Sure, Lois' reaction to the photo is [[CharacterDerailment uncharacteristically harsh]], but when Brian hears from Stewie about Quagmire's (as-yet-unnamed) father having undergone gender reassignment surgery, he reacts just as brutally (and silences [[ButtMonkey Meg]] when she ''does'' ask him about the seminar). Upon {{the reveal}}, Brian's disgust is a [[{{Understatement}} protracted]] VomitIndiscretionShot that was presumably meant by the writers to appear {{squick}}y, but if we could all take a moment to consider the long-running and [[ElephantInTheLivingRoom unignorable]] quirk in the series' run of {{interspecies romance}} Brian has encountered: Ida may have a vagina that has been surgically constructed from her inverted penis, but Brian is a freakin' ''DOG''! Brian has no right to be so vomit-inducingly disgusted (or require thorough scrubbing afterward) when he discovers that his partner was not born female, when he isn't even the same species as her. To top it, yelling to Quagmire, "I fucked your dad" confirms his unwarranted prejudice, and any remaining shred of sympathy dissolves hereon. [[SarcasmMode Way to go, Brian. A real mature retort there]].
*** Sounds like another fail parody of a 90's pop reference. The Crying Game at least was treated well by ''RobotChicken''.
** Along with all this, let's not forget that Brian is the victim here, and he didn't even do anything wrong. ''He didn't know that was Quagmire's father''. And Quagmire's righteous indignation and beating of Brian is especially hypocritical when you consider the fact that there are probably hundreds of people who'd be far more justified in beating '''him''' half to death for raping them and/or their loved ones. Or maybe one of those children he's fathered, but never sees, could give him a good beating.
*** Me personally, this was the episode where I gave up on Quagmire. Yes, I could agree with some of what he said in "Jerome is the New Black" (even IF it made Brian cry), but '''senselessly beating the crap out of somebody who had no idea of what he did was wrong, and didn't EVEN want to fight back (and was RUNNING AWAY IN FEAR)''' is... just... WOW. Seriously, if there a REASON for causing friction between Quagmire and Brian, ok, fine. ...but god damn, Seth...
**** The entire reason of Quagmire beating Brian makes no sense to me. Is it normal practice in {{Eagleland}} to attack your ugh... mother's boyfriend? It looks like they just thought it would be cool make Glenn beating Brian. But [[ConfusingMultipleNegatives it's not just not funny]] it's not even an attempt to be funny. It's just horrible.
* "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". If they were going for RefugeInAudacity, they failed, because [[SomebodyElsesProblem that is]] ''[[SomebodyElsesProblem exactly]]'' [[SomebodyElsesProblem how if works in]] RealLife. It's disturbing to watch and made me feel sick.
** The joke itself was pretty funny (Ha, Dr. Seuss wrote a book named "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". This makes no sense, why would someone write such book for children? Thats makes me laugh) ManateeGag just ruined it. It didn't add anything but disturbing context.
** [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi I]] was really shocked when I first witnessed that cutaway, so nowadays, I would change the channel for a few seconds. They could've thought of a less painful cutaway to fill 22 minutes?
* All the put downs towards women in "The Splendid Source" literally made this troper say, "screw you" to her television.
** Seconded. I had given up on Family Guy, but decided to give IT one more chance. I thought this episode was kind of funny. Then I got up to the point where Peter is in the room with the smartest people in the room, and smugly comments, "Not a lot of women." Well, this woman is smart enough to skip this show and its lazy, misogynistic writers.
* I happen to be politically conservative, and swore off ''Family Guy'' after about seven seasons' worth of straw man arguments. Stewie in a Nazi uniform with a "[=McCain=]/Palin" button? Check. Peter repeating "We should bomb Iraq" at the 9/11 memorial? Check. I literally threw my ''Family Guy'' DVDs away.
** Dude, Tropers/MacPhisto is a borderline '''MARXIST''', and even he is disgusted by Seth's endless left-wing strawmanship (gives the rest of us a bad name). I believe that Sarah Palin is the worst thing to happen to this country since it was founded, and even I think "comparing-Republicans-to-Nazis" is both in bad taste and incredibly stupid.
* "Patriot Games", home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and the infamous "Shipoopi" scene. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.
* The episode "Partial Terms of Endearment" (Unaired by FOX) made me so disappointed and disturbed. Not like I have anything to do with pro-life, but somehow they managed to convince me that probably they won't do abortion. I thought "Oh, it's like season finale, maybe they decided to add new character to family with hilarity and heartwarming ensuing. That must be great, [[TheScrappy even if it won't]] things can't get worse" [[StatusQuoIsGod but no]].
** What's even more offensive is the way Peter keeps trying to induce an abortion on Lois.
** It gets even worse when Peter, for the sole purpose of providing a counter argument, is persuaded to become pro life after a 30 second video clip, even by his standards of stupidity, that's too ridiculous. Especially when he went from trying to kill the baby several times to being against abortion in the event of incest, genetic disorders, and even rape. What the fuck?
*** This is made even worse, because abortion is a serious topic, and having the [[StrawmanPolitical dumbest character on the show become the anti abortion strawman]] for no reason is completely offensive to a serious issue.
* This is going to be controversal: In one episode, Peter gets shipwrecked and Brian becomes Lois' new husband. We see that Brian has sexual interest in Lois, but she refuses to do youknowwhat, even though he is a way better father than Peter. In the end, Lois is together with Peter again and NOW she tells Brian that sie did wanted to move their beds together, elaborating on what kinds of things she would have liked to do with him. Don't get me wrong, dog-on-woman is creepy and just gross. But do you really have to tease him with this? Goddammit, he got your daughter a date with a famous sports reporter (which had one of the few funny lines in this episode BTW)! It just feels like she was saying "Yeah, you were nice, but I don't feel like you should be rewarded for it. So FUCK YOU!" This scene makes me want to pay somebody to do a Flash animation in which Lois gets repeatedly stabbed with a rusty knife.
*"Go Stewie Go". The episode was basically justifying Lois and her [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Wallbanging]] motivation of trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, being so selfish to ignore the fact that this was apparently the first normal guy Meg has ever dated (which the episode also goes out of its way to exaggeratedly point this out). Does she take a moment to respect her daughter? (or her husband, [[NegativeContinuity but she's already cheated on him before]], [[SoYeah so...]]) No! She just continues on in her already {{Scrappy}} {{Flanderization}}. [[KarmaHoudini And she gets off the whole ordeal]] with giving a simple (and horrible) apology to Meg and Peter ([[SarcasmMode wait ''silly me'']] she didn't apologise to Peter, [[WallBanger '''she blamed him''' for the whole thing!]]).
**The A-plot of "Go Stewie Go", I understand they were trying to do "Tootsie", but seriously, all they did was replace "soap opera" with "kids' show." That's it, that's all it it was, other than the "band aid" gag, there was ZERO originality.
**Peter exhibiting incestuous attraction towards Meg in the episode "Go Stewie Go" was downright disgusting and made this troper rather uncomfortable, especially when he made Meg kiss him on the lips. Given that Peter is already filling in the verbal and physical abuse aspects of being an [[AbusiveParents abusive parent]] we can now add sexual abuse as well!
**But the ultimate [=DMoS=] of the episode was the bar scene. [[FridgeLogic Did Brian just try and hit on a baby girl?]] It may have been Stewie in drag, sure, but [[CompletelyMissingThePoint the point of the costume was to fool the producers that he was ''A ONE YEAR OLD GIRL!'']] Wouldn't Brian ''also'' think that this is [[{{Squick}} a ONE YEAR OLD's hand]] that he's trying to place on his ''[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean other tail?]]''
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'''[[ThisIsGonnaSuck Well, here it is.]] [[MostTriumphantExample The worst offender of the worst offenders.]] [[SarcasmMode Enjoy.]]'''
* The episode can basically be described as an anti-theist ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth
to a troper, human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.- SNES Master KI
** Not to mention the above quote of "her very existence proves no benevolent force exists" is said with a complete straight face. It's not meant as a joke. It's not meant as an insult to her. It's meant as a fact. Danny Smith is the one that is the creator of this. FridgeLogic applies and means that he's therefore a non-benevolent individual that hates everyone and everything. I'll be completely honest, I watch ''Moral Orel'' and laugh at its portrayal of 'straw Christians'. Mostly because I know that most of them aren't like that, and it's a small vocal minority. But
if multiple entires the people who make the show want to focus on them so and empower them, it's their choice to do so. But this show, it truly hurt me and hurt my feelings. But then I've noticed that ''Family Guy'' has become more and more about being a mouth piece for far-left liberal and atheist beliefs and less about being funny. Really, if you're going to have a show be a mouthpiece, stop saying it's just for jokes, and say what it is: [[SouthPark your own personal propaganda machine.]]
*** I always saw the Meg statement as an extension of The Writer's general misogyny, interpreting "Meg" as basically "any woman who isn't hot". In this way, the statement makes [[InsaneTrollLogic vaguely more sense]], but [[BeyondTheImpossible becomes so much more disgusting as a result]].
*** I think Brian shows his true colors here. He insults Meg for being ugly... this coming from a dog. I don't know what happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but Brian apparently doesn't care. What he sees as "ugly", is totally irrelevant to God because He created what He believes is actually good. It's also worth noting that Brian completely disregards Meg's Christian messages as a whole. Whether or not you agree with a religion, any at all really, a lot of them have genuinely good messages of not stealing, not lying, and so forth. Most people of any religious affiliation (including the non-religious) would probably attest to this. Furthermore, Brian comes off as a HUGE hypocrite when he criticizes Meg for being some "crazy, outspoken, conversion-happy Christian", but it turns out that it's okay for him to convert her into an atheist. [[SarcasmMode Man I love double standards.]]
** Oh thank you for seeing the exact same problem I saw. The argument isn't even an attempt at logic, it's just "If God existed, he would've made Meg pretty." To sum up, if God existed then the atheistic creator of the cartoon would've have drawn a single character in an attractive manner. Dear Krishna, Mr. [=MacFarlane=]! Does he actually consider that a realistic reason to not believe in a God? The strangest part is that Brian's statement is accepted as a reasonable argument and the entire book burning is put to a halt and all the townspeople, who had started behaving like Nazis after becoming more religious, go back to being normal.
*** Similar to how most atheists won't spend their entire time trying to prove that everyone who is religious is an idiot Nazi and most atheists
are signed actually quite fine with people practicing whatever religion makes them happy. But Danny Smith is the exception that proves the rule.
**** As an atheist, I was still somehow offended. It was either going far beyond the realms of parody in terms of portraying Christians, or it was the whole bringing great shame
to atheists everywhere. It was just plain painful to watch.
***** The whole town converts back instantly too. Apparently Meg's existence is a pretty strong argument.
****** The really ridiculous thing is that in early seasons Brian was at least semi-religious. He had a Bible handy at times ("And the Lord said, Go Sox," in response to someone wondering what the bible verse people frequently referenced at ballgames was) and he was the only one who recognized the plagues when Peter made himself a false god, slapping Peter and declaring [[ThisIsSparta "God. Is. Pissed."]]
* That episode doesn't even pass the FridgeLogic test - God and Jesus are characters in the show, as is the Grim Reaper! Brian's venturing into FlatEarthAtheist territory saying that God doesn't exist in a universe where God can be found picking up women at the bar, all for the sake of being a mouthpiece. Also, as a liberal agnostic who used to like ''FamilyGuy'' for totally non-political reasons, I've just gotta comment that sharing his world views doesn't make the recent AuthorTract format any less preachy or condescending. The show just plain isn't funny anymore.
** Crap, at the end of the episode, it even showed that Brian's hypothesis that even though God doesn't exist (except that he does on the show), the universe is an amazing and wondrous place is wrong, as the universe was actually a molecule in the lamp on Adam West's nightstand.
** Wasn't there an episode where Meg became pretty and at the end of the episode it was concluded that being pretty wasn't good for her and she switched back to being ugly of her own free will? Which means that Meg choosing to not be pretty means there isn't a God because if there was a God he would've gone out of his way to interfere with her free will and force her to be attractive. HeadDesk, HeadDesk, HeadDesk.
* Not to mention that they managed to get the entire ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' cast to cameo and barely used them in the weakest guest appearance comedy yet on the show. I had all but given up on the show for a while, but being a TNG fan decided to sit for this one, my blood pressure steadily increasing as it became increasingly obvious that I was subjected effectively to a bait-and-switch (though I don't blame Fox for promoting the cameo, given what a train wreck the entire episode became).
** The first line of the episode implied that ''StarTrek'' convention-goers rarely see sunlight. Guess they wanted to pull out the fresh material right away.
* For the first half of the episode it seems to explicitly set up the moral that you shouldn't discriminate against someone for their faith or lack of one, or that maybe Meg just happened to take her religious belief a little too far... but nope! According to FamilyGuy, Christianity = BAD and Atheism = GOOD.
** That was
the same troper aesop they seemed to be setting up for the more recent one will be cut.
*Moments only, no "just
episode "Familiy Goy". If I remember correctly, it ended with Jesus saying "[[BrokenAesop Six to one, they're [all religions] all complete crap]]".
** Either that or he's going with the flow of the [[{{Anvilicious}} overly passionate]] young people who [[AcceptableTargets blame religion for
everything that's wrong with the Universe]]. Either way it's bad.
* Let's put it this way: this episode was so bad that ''even Seth'' had to eventually apologize for just how blatantly ''stupid'' this episode was in Jerome is the New Black (Quagmire's [[http://www.hulu.com/watch/111154/family-guy-quagmire-goes-off brutal tirade]] against Brian, that many consider Glen's CrowningMomentOfAwesome). This is the same man who approved "Prom Night Dumpster Baby" and yet ''THIS'' was the thing
he said" entries.apologized for. Seriously, it's that bad.
** The worst part. The single worst part of all of this... is that at the end of the episode, where someone calls out Brian, FINALLY, someone calls his bullshit, he comes home crying...and Stewie comforts him and tells him it's okay and not to worry about it. Brian has always been Stewie's first target. Sure, there's some serious FoeYay, but he ALWAYS goes the hell after Brian. And he comforts him. Comforts him and removes that nagging doubt that he's not a complete and utter failure of a character. [[INeedAFreakingDrink Someone get me a beer...]]
* The biggest irony of this whole mess is that Brian's speech at the end of the episode was ''supposed'' to be his CrowningMomentOfAwesome. Instead it wound up here.
* One has to wonder what the point of this episode was: was it meant to turn Christians into atheists? Make atheists shun their friends and family if they believed in, well, ''anything?'' Were we supposed to ''agree'' with Brian and admit that the majority of Americans are evil idiots because they believe in something? WHAT. WAS. THE. POINT?
* The reason why Meg became a Christian in the first place was because her life was starting to ''really'' suck. In other words Danny Smith arrogantly assumed that the ''only reason'' religion exists is because peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then...never mind the fact that Brian's big argument that converts the whole town to atheism is "Peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then." So, um, the exact same thing except with atheism. Not much a difference, is it?
** It also implied that the only reason people believe there isn't a God is because people's lives suck. Not because atheism is what makes sense to some people or anything. Of course not. It simply must be that all atheists are what they are because the God they don't believe in is a jerk. This episode made this atheist want to scream.
* This atheist was extremely offended that the episode portrayed Christians as if they were total morons. This is not the 13th fucking century, very few theists are that radical; not all of them are going to try to convert you or run you out of town. Have some class.
* It didn't help that the only Christians they portrayed are the vocal, extreme minority. Yes, some Christians still practice book burning but the same logic can be applied to everything: some men cheat on their wives so does that make all men evil? No.
* ''Possibly'', Brian's argument is what Christians refer to as the "problem of pain": why would God, who is Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent, allow for abusive parents, rapists, mustard gas, war etc? (In RealLife, it's a highly contested issue within the Christian faith alone.) Brian's argument might've held ''some'' water if handled properly. Instead, it came out as: "Meg, a ''fictional character'' has a really crummy life; ergo a benevolent God cannot exist." This episode, it seems, was nothing more than a logic-free TakeThat not only at Christianity, but ''any'' type of faith in the unseen.
** I want to say that first off, I am a hardcore Christian. However, this is my biggest problem with most of the quotes on this page...I feel like we're all totally missing the point. Brian's argument wasn't so much "Meg is ugly, therefore, God can't exist," it was more "Meg, why do you believe/trust in a God that allows all of these horrible things to happen to you?" (Her family hating her, her friends making fun of her, etc...) I think Brian's argument makes a little more sense than we give it credit for, but at the same time, he doesn't fully understand the Christian faith either to make a statement like that...in any case, it still fits nicely on this page.
** Yeah that's what I figured, it didn't seem like he was calling Meg "ugly" or anything, to me it seemed more like he was commenting on that the fact that nearly EVERYBODY that makes eye contact with Meg considers her ugly and is repulsed by her(not to mention the way overrused gag of her being mistaken for a guy), and he uses that logic to convince her that god dosen't exist-and that was more then enough to convince her to believe Brian, and when you consider all the abuse she's gone through, Brian's argument would naturally make perfect sense to her. I didn't have the same hatred for this episode that most people do, but it STILL definitely went too far with the ridiculously over-the-top scene with Brian being demonized by everyone just for being an Atheist.
* In somewhat of a direction toward the FridgeLogic[=/=]WallBanger portion of this, the fact that Brian is an atheist was introduced and driven toward maddening levels, completely ignoring the fact that his atheism is a direct punch in the face of the admittedly inconsistent continuity anyway. Now to be fair, the dumb line about Meg being too ugly to allow a God to exist was said by an AuthorAvatar, Brian and the fact that he said something so insanely wall banging with a straight face may have been an attempt at making it funny. This didn't make it any less jarring at the fact that Brian apparently doesn't believe in God and Jesus after having ''seen them with his own eyes, '''spent an entire episode trying to convince Peter that he shouldn't try to take over for the real God''''', and on a less notable example been the victim of otherworldly/paranormal events in the past, such as his ''entire house being sucked into nothingness.'' So either the context of this episode is that the God that has been shown in the past in the show was written off as if he never existed just to make a point or one of Brian's head injuries throughout the series caused him to forget the fact that he's been ''confronted'' by God in the past.
* If we cut past all of Danny Smith's bad logic the moral of the episode was "If God exists then why does suffering exist?". The problem with that is that, at some point, nigh-everyone in a religious society thinks of this: we didn't need an entire episode just to hear the same question.
* Wait, Meg had just become a Christian in that episode. Last time I checked people who've just joined a new religion wouldn't be that good at defending it.

*No contesting entries. [[/folder]]

[[folder:"Family Gay"]]
*The episode where Peter leaves his jobless housewife and three kids (one of which being a baby) because he suddenly turned gay. Yes, guys, we understand that it's okay to be gay, but that doesn't give you the right to abandon all of your responsibilities without so much as a token conversation about child support. Hell, Lois even agrees that Peter didn't do anything wrong! He fucking did! He left your ass with three kids and NO WAY TO SUPPORT THEM. HE DIDN'T EVEN WAIT FOR HER TO GET A JOB SO THAT HIS FAMILY (which he should still care somewhat about because, you know, gay people aren't amoral assholes) COULD SUPPORT THEMSELVES!! YES, THATS RIGHT PETER, GO AHEAD AND JUST &^!@#&*^!$&(@#*#!$YGHQSF!!!
**Considering that it was [[RalphWiggum Peter]], they were better off without him, which [[LampshadeHanging the episode hung a lantern on]]. It had good comedic value, but it shows that the writers failed once again at preaching political correctness in a DeadBabyComedy. If he had proved ''SouthPark'' right about it just being a GagSeries, [[{{Understatement}} this Article would be a lot shorter]].
**You forgot to mention the worst parts. Peter became test subject for genetic experiments because he couldn't afford to pay for the damages a horse he bought did, almost ruining the family. SoYeah, to ruin your family and then leave them without any kind of support just because you're now gay is the right thing to do, and if you dare to say otherwise, you're a homophobe. And the most shocking thing is that everybody was putting Peter's happiness before everything, despite Peter being the cause of all the problems. I wonder why there are still so many people who says that Peter is not a blatant AntiSue.
***Some of you seem to be forgetting about Lois's billionaire father. Peter didn't need to support her, because daddy would just pay the bills.
***Did anyone forget that he was injected with ''gay person DNA''?! Did fucking ''[[{{Sonichu}} Chris-Chan]]'' write this?
***Eh, Peter's just lucky he's the main character of ''Family Guy''. [[DesignatedHero At this point, in any other show, he'd be the villain.]] No really, he would be. Just paint his skin a disgusting shade of green, put a nasty-looking sword in his hands, and you've got yourself an honest-to-badness [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Great Unclean One]].
****At this time I'm reminded of "{{Superman}} At Earth's End", a comic where guns are used to solve all the problems, and then ends with an anti-gun message. Similarly, you can't have a pro-tolerance message in an episode that makes such egregious, un-ironic use of stereotypes. Things just work a certain way, and no amount of "comedy" can make up for that.
**Lois' line "I can't change your orientation, and it'd be wrong for me to try" absolutely made NO SENSE since they DID CHANGE Peter's orientation earlier. However, [[{{Anvilicious}} banging people's head with the idea that homosexuality is not a choice was more important]].
*I simply love how Stewie suddenly takes the stance of staunch christian conservative (or perhaps christians in general, considering the show) for the sake of a temporary AuthorTract.
**Not to mention that Stewie is gay according to the {{Word of God}}
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[[folder: "Road to the Multiverse"]]
*"Road to the Multiverse" is ten minutes of poop and fart jokes interlaced with a thin plot and several Meg-is-ugly jokes. Then, in the very end, Brian from an alternate universe wants to come back to the main universe even though he [[FridgeLogic would've already gotten the chance to stay when he traveled with his Stewie through the Multiverse and didn't take that opportunity]] only to walk off and be hit by a car. The car was so predictable and obvious and that there wasn't a single person who didn't see it coming. Worse yet, alternate Brian would've been an interesting plot for a future episode but no, they killed him off instantly, which made the last seven minutes of the show worthless.
**This is exactly why the end of the Disney segment in the episode is so bad; this show is just as anti-Semitic as Seth purports Disney to be. Yes, we all know it's ''Disney'', but don't fucking pretend that this show isn't as offensive as anything that Disney puts out.
***If it was a shot at "Uncle Walt's" anti-semitism, it wasn't a very good one. If they had an animated Walt leading the charge to kill Mort, then that would have made more sense. But there wasn't, everything was ''all'' happy-scrappy until Mort showed up. The regular characters had designs reminiscent of various Disney characters (the latest being Meg's, based off of ''The Little Mermaid's'' Ursula, which came out waaayy long after Disney's death) and it gives off the impression that the Walt Disney Corporation as a whole hates Jews. And as for Family Guy not being anti-semitic? Well, let's see: the recurring Jewish character is Mort Goldman, who is pretty much a walking-talking personification of almost every Jewish stereotype known to man, his lesser seen family are pretty much his clones, and that when Peter once put up a "scare-Jew" (i.e. a scarecrow made up to look like AdolfHitler) to scare Mort away from the house so he wouldn't borrow anymore of the Griffens' stuff, Mort runs away screaming for everyone to protect Jon Stewart ("He's our most important Jew!") from the "reincarnated Hitler". So while Family Guy isn't anti-semitic per se, it does absolutely nothing to offset/subvert Jewish stereotypes. But yes, the Disney universe was a shitty joke, there is that too.
**** This troper actually ''loved'' the Disney universe segment and considers it the series' CrowningMomentOfAwesome. But, since [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] ''constantly'' makes that stupid Disney joke (Brian at the beginning of "Movin' Out, Brian's Song", the cutaway in some episode saying that Goofy goes to Hell for being involved with 9/11, etc.), I have to agree that the end of that segment was stupid. I was expecting a meta-joke about the Disney universe being too expensive to animate, and that would be why they had to leave. Not sure if that would have been better. Though, the end of that segment was not enough to make me not like that scene, "It's a Wonderful Day for Pie" and the Herbert part were still gold.
*** The thing is though, Walt Disney wasn't actually that racist, he was actually ''less racist'' than most people of his era. The reason him being anti-semetic became a popular belief was because of [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,295141,00.html a comment Brett Butler made on Letterman.]] Brett Butler's a psychotic drug addict, and was so addicted at the time that her show went through five producers in five years.
** I thought the whole Road to the Multiverse counts as a DethroningMomentOfSuck. You can literally put all the jokes in three categories. Bowel movements, Meg is ugly, and violence. Mayor [=McCheese=] gets shot, [[spoiler:alternate universe Brian gets hit by a car (predictable enough)]], John Hinkley (Reagan's attempted assassin) painted the Sistine Chapel, and Mort the Jew gets beat to death in the Disney universe.
** Wellesely Wild's anti-theism shines through again where he says Christianity holds back science here as well.
** What was really frustrating about it was the statement that without Christianity there would not have been the Dark ages. In reality, the biggest contributor to the Dark Ages was the power vacuum created by the fall of {{the Roman Empire}}, and it was largely the culture and technology brought back to Europe by the ''Crusades'' that ended them.
**Never mind the fact that Europe =/= the entire world. While Europe was enveloped in the Dark Ages, scientific advances still continued in other places like the Far East and the Islamic Empire (which reintroduced scientific and mathematic discoveries to Europe centuries after they had been lost there).
* When they went to the world where Japan won WW2. That joke was completely racist.
* This troper, a secular humanist, found the Christianity/Dark Ages joke in very bad taste.
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[[folder: "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag"]]
*The worst part of the Episode was when Brian dates an older woman was when showed the younger girl a video of himself in ''DieHard''. It wasn't funny, and it was just another use of LimitedAnimation. Considering that this is coming from ''Family Guy'', which has shown us four minutes of Conway Twitty singing with no animation ''at all'', this can be seen as an improvement.
**The episode where Brian got involved with an actual elderly woman. You know, someone who's actually OLD and not just above 21 years old. Even though that old lady died at the end of that episode, that was treated with a lot more respect and pathos then this episode saw fit to treat a woman who was, horrors of horrors, MORE THEN FORTY YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!
**The supposed {{Aesop}} of this episode was [[BrokenAesop broken beyond repair]]. Brian berates everyone for treating him poorly for dating an older woman, pointing out the hypocrisy of younger women dating older men and younger men dating older women. So, what happens? Again, the older woman tells Brian (who tells her he feels ''horrible'' for sleeping with another, younger, woman) that he's immature and that she's too good for him. Yes, according to the writers, it's not due to traditional sex roles, or {{double standard}}s, or traditional reasons that the idea of a man dating an older woman is frowned on. No, according to this episode, it's because men are immature. [[StreetFighter OF COURSE!]] I'm not sure which sex should be offended more...
*** Even though his family's reactions were jerkassy and his girlfriend seemed to suddenly and inexplicably turn into [[TheSimpsons Grandpa Simpson]], Brian's actions in that episode were pretty heinous. He pretty blatantly decided to propose in order to spite his family's prejudices, and though he apologized for cheating on her, he phrased it in a way that made it seem as though it was a good thing because it proved to him that SHE wasn't too old for him. DethroningMomentOfSuck from both sides of the argument.
**Perhaps the worst part of this episode was the writing within it. The older woman in question is screamed at by Peter, who grabs her shirt and starts demanding her age, sending her off in tears. The family seems UTTERLY DEVOTED to destroying Brian's love life. From the perspective of one who has worked very hard for his love life, I would ''beat my own kin'' if they did that. So, Brian does a good thing, comforts her, makes her feel loved and beautiful. It's amazing, maybe Brian does have a soul. Besides, age difference isn't that bad - Brian goes back and forth between 49 and 7, so hey, whatever. So, moving on from that. The woman is actually a fairly likable character. Well, we can't have that in a one shot, can we? So, in the fastest fucking case of {{Flanderization}} I've ever seen, this woman goes from being fairly on top of things and even somewhat modern to basically 80 in mannerisms and speech processes. My mother is 50. She's not talking in 1930s lingo.
This is subjective, placed in to make her unsympathetic. Oh, and let's not forget the entry complete and utter CriticalResearchFailure - a picture is shown of the woman as a young child with her mother. Brian picks it up and comments "Huh... there's not enough stars on this flag!" in a nervous tone, implying she was born before Alaska and Hawaii were made states (1959). The woman is 50 (the episode first aired in 2009). If she's 50...and the picture shows her as a young, bipedal child with her mother (see, at least two years old, probably more)... then there WERE 50 stars on the flag...hmm. Thanks guys. I confirmed the Alaska/Hawaii thing in two minutes on TheOtherWiki. [[SarcasmMode I'm GLAD you can do the same]].
***Consider this: The entire family is ragging on her because she's "old." She's only fifty years old...In an earlier episode it was revealed that ''Peter'' is ''forty-two''. There's only eight years between them, ten between her and Lois! And ''that is what they call "old?!"''
***What's even more enraging is that Brian is about 49 in human years, which means that he's technically ''a year younger than her!'' Come ''on!''
*Lucy getting the ever-loving shit kicked out of her in "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag?" You know, I know she screwed with Charlie a lot back in ''{{Peanuts}}'' but nothing she did could you use to justify her getting kicked the crap out of her. Especially since she's a child, to make matters worse Peter actually brings up the therapy shtick she used as another reason to kick her. I dunno, maybe it's just me because I liked Lucy and don't like the concept of children being hurt... let alone a small 8-Year Old Girl all brought about [[RoadHouse a Patrick Swayze movie]] and Seth paying homage to him. Thanks Seth, I'm pretty sure Patrick would've wanted to be remembered for inspiring some idiot to beat up children.
**Not having seen the scene in particular, it sounds like a literal curb stomping, which is bad enough, but the fact that they did the same joke years before, only using Louis instead of Charlie Brown, just makes it worse. ''RobotChicken'' did something similar, but wasn't so bad, because it was so cartoonish, you could laugh at it.
**They did this joke already in ''Lethal Weapons'' (season 2), but much milder and to much better effect: Lois, in a martial arts training montage, runs to kick a football held by Lucy. The football gets yanked, Lois falls out of frame, then runs back to roundhouse Lucy, who cries. That's exactly the right amount of justice via cartoon violence that what Lucy did deserve. They ''knew'' how to do this joke right already, but have totally forgotten it since the pre-resurrection era.
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[[folder:'''Other Episodes''']]
*Hey, [=MacFarlane=], we fucking get it, you hate Jews. Enough already, okay? Really seriously getting a little sick of how much we need to hear about how much you hate Jews. Honest. Don't really need to hear Stewie smarming right at the camera about how God will kick the Jews' ass for killing Jesus. Wow. Fucking seriously, we're going to go with that bit? Really? From Stewie, not from Peter, we're really going to go with "Jews killed Christ."
**But no seriously, [=MacFarlane=] averages one Jew joke per episode. The only ethnicity he goes after as much or more are the Hispanics. Seriously, fucking enough, kk.
** Several of the writers, producers and voice actors for the show are Jewish. It's more likely to be SelfDepreciatingHumour than anti-semitism, something which American Jews are hardly alien to.
*In one episode, Jesus himself (mind you a couple of episodes before said that God and Jesus didn't exist) said that all religion was crap, and surprise, Brian agrees.
**I think that part of the episode was a response to complaints of how Brian could be an atheist when he's met God and Jesus. Rather than a clever or thoughtful explanation of how Brian could maintain his atheism, Mark Hentemenn instead has Jesus say that all religion is crap because Brian can't possibly be wrong. EVER. That's right, Brian's now officially a BlackHoleSue and the universe bends to his will. Of course that doesn't explain how Jesus has superpowers but I'm sure we'll get another episode where that's explained to the most insulting extent possible.
***Also the fact that deism isn't religious, but also believes there is a God. That could have been used, but NOOOOO, the AuthorAvatar is ALWAYS right!
****Which makes no sense as Brian's won an award for his essay and was hired by the New Yorker on the strength of his writing and worked himself to the bone (to the point of taking the mayor hostage) to fight a discriminatory law. His novel is apparently pretty lousy and accidentally a remake of [[IronEagle an existing story]], but he does seem to have a history as a talented writer. Not to mention that he was being chewed out by a guy who has been almost explicitly shown to engage in date rape, statutory rape, incest and bestiality, has left many fatherless children, and also hits on his best friend's wife (and outright slept with his other one's). The rant would have made sense if it was Cleaveland or Joe making it, but Quagmire?
*****Also, one of Quagmire's points was that he has no illusions about who he is, what he wants, and what he's after, and doesn't particularly try to hide it, either. Brian, on the other hand...
****** There's a difference between admitting that you're shallow and admitting that you're a rapist.
******When it comes to creative writing, Brian just sucks, has no originality, his best work is plagiarism and his mediocre work is unintentional plagiarism.
*The [[MoralDissonance Fighting a discriminatory law by taking the mayor hostage]] one. I'm sorry; WHAT?!?!? I don't care who you are or what you believe; tell me, for the love of all things sane, you see the problem with this! Brian, trying to prevent a gay marriage ban, takes an elected official hostage at gun point; and all it takes is a talking to from Lois about he's, surprise surprise, right again to get him to give up.
**What ticks ''This'' Troper off even more? Lois believes that gays should have the right to be together, but is against gay marriage. This is a moderate position, and indeed may be the majority one in America. But what convinces her that this opinion is wrong, wrong, wrong? Seeing Brian performing his '''''ACT OF TERRORISM''''' on the news, because obviously "he feels really strongly about this." '''''What?!''''' News flash, idiot writers: lots of people "feel really strongly" about
their opinions, that has exactly ''zero'' definitive correlation to whether or not those opinions are right! To put it another way, if ''Lois'' had taken the mayor hostage to ''prevent'' gay marriage, would Brian have been so [[EasyEvangelism easily converted]] to her side, given how "strongly" she apparently believed she was right?
**Probably the worst part of that episode, for This Troper? The rape joke about Elizabeth Smart. RapeAsComedy is really toeing the line, even though this show does it constantly. But calling out the name of an ''actual'' rape victim, specifically a ''child?'' '''FUCK YOU, ASSHOLES.''' You know, I hope her ''family'' wasn't watching or anything.
*[[NostalgiaCritic ...I like to think of myself as a semi-reasonable human being, as a man of the world, so to speak, with a view somewhat grounded in comedic reality and realization. That view has been challenged. By what, you may ask?]] ''FamilyGuy''. Sweet Jebus what went wrong? It was all going so well! Then it went like ''TheSimpsons'', and each successive season got worse and worse! I persevered, oh I sat through it! If the Beatles movies couldn't break me, then certainly ''Family Guy'' wouldn't. This last season looked so harmless too. Even though every episode seemed to be composed of pure suck, there were at least moments to make up for it. But this last one... Why? Dear merciful God in Heaven, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger WHY? WHY DID CONWAY TWITTY SING FOR FIVE WHOLE MINUTES?!]] I'm...I'm ashamed to admit it...but that was the first time I turned away from a T.V. show in disgust. It was as if all [[WorseThanItSounds my senses were being raped by this single episode.]] I am a broken man... Don't cry for me, I'm already dead.
**"I'm alive! But I'm so angry, somebody's gotta pay for this!" While bad, the line was [[RefugeInAudacity so absurd and out of nowhere that I got some laughs out of that scene.]]
*''Family Guy'' has a tendency of ripping things off, shot-by-shot, word-for-word. While this effect is intentional, it comes off as greatly annoying to more than one troper. To wit:
**For me, ''FamilyGuy's'' Dethroning Moment of Suck was the "Ding Fries Are Done" song, which was an absolutely verbatim ripoff of a radio bit/viral video that had long been circulating on the Internet.
**The recreation of "Somewhere That's Green" from 'LittleShopOfHorrors''. Too much goddamn fucking filler, no gags added or anything, and all for a tired joke involving Herbert, their worst character. And not to mention the fact that Herbert is in drag in that scene. No amount of BrainBleach can wipe away the image that is now burned in my retinas.
**Adding to THAT, the show lifted, verbatim, an old joke that had been around long before the show returned from cancellation. Not a joke from any show, a "did you hear the one..." joke. The cutaway gag where Peter, dressed like a doctor, informs a husband that his wife has become a vegetable, and that he'll have to spend all his life caring for her, then follows it with "Nah, I'm just kidding, she's dead". That's probably hilarious, had you not been told that joke less than a year before the show returned from cancellation... [[DudeNotFunny Good luck telling that joke, now, and not being accused of getting it from ''Family Guy''. "Kudos" to Seth MacFarlane and pals for ripping off a source material that can't be pinpointed. Not like that's stopped them, because moment-by-moment recreations are apparently hilarious.]]
***Then there is the episode in which Peter founds his own religion. Quagmire comes to him and tells him about all the dirty things he has done. When Peter explains to him that there is no point in telling him that as there is no confession in his religion, Quagmire responds, "Are you nuts? I'm telling this to ''everyone!''" Also an old joke. It appeared before that in the third ''BlueCollarComedyTour'' movie, told by JeffFoxworthy.
*Yeesh, Meg. Where exactly it started this troper can't pinpoint (and has no real desire to look anyway), but wherever it was that Meg went from [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] teenager with self-esteem issues to punching bag qualifies as the Dethroning Moment of Suck. The fact it was done because the writers allegedly didn't know how to write for a teenage female character just makes it even more stupid. Some examples: Shot full of poison darts? Check. Thrown out of a boat, caught by fisherman, and then verbally berated? Check. Blamed and punished for everything in the series? Check yet again. Being shot POINT BLANK in the head just for greeting her father? Check and mate. And, indeed, compared to everyone else, Meg is far more likable than anyone else in the series these days.
**Agreed. I could understand it as a ''RunningGag'' (because it does make me like Meg more, because seriously, the stuff she gets put through), but Jesus, "The Road to {{The Multiverse}}" is pretty much ''the'' Dethroning Moment for me when it comes to Meg. [[spoiler:''Every single dimension'' hates her for the exact same reason: that she's not pretty enough for them ([[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]] legs in Disneyverse, Bulldog in the Dogs Rule-verse, committing seppuku in the Japanverse for being ugly and being promptly farted on. Even in the universe where Brian and Stewie see her as a sex bomb. [[ThisIsSparta What. The. Hell.]] The worst part there is they show several other women in the background and a woman who's just finished having sex with Quagmire. None come close to as hot as hot Meg]]. The shallowness really just pisses me off.
***Oh, ''God'', yes. I thought things were looking up when Meg was shown to be apparently pretty sexy in one 'verse, but then we find out she's still considered hideous? God damn you, Wellesely. ''Damn you!''
****Really, the only thing funny about the whole Meg's-ugly concept anymore is the fact that in the show's entire run, she's been voiced by two ridiculously gorgeous actresses -— Lacey Chabert and Mila Kunis, for the uninformed.
****One of the Meg's Ugly jokes that really p.o.'d this troper was when Meg was in her underwear (Which I for one enjoyed) and said to BillClinton he could have her and he went eww, and this man was in a limo with like five women who were ''WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY'' fatter than Meg's supposed to be.
*****That scene was undoubtedly intended as a Monica Lewinsky joke. Which ''might'' have been mildly funny, if the episode had aired...oh, '''EIGHT YEARS EARLIER!''' Gee, writers—why don't you throw in some O.J. Simpson jokes while you're at it? Oh, ''wait....''
***The one I hated was when she is begging to get raped, because no other man would have her, and the horrified criminal runs away in disgust.
**[[Tropers/{{Jonn}} I]] sat down for that episode telling myself, "Okay, let's see how long before The Writers bash Christians." Four minutes later, I changed the channel, noted the time for the WriterOnBoard page, and have never watched a new ''Family Guy'' again.
*The MileyCyrus episode had one that was quite disturbing. Brian asks Stewie to reprogram Miley Cyrus into being Brian's sex slave and since she's a minor, Brian is a pedophile (oh God, they're gonna make him the new Herbert!). While that's disgusting enough on its own, Brian justifies this by saying that he's 7. This only makes things worse because now [[FridgeLogic every girl Brian has dated is now a pedophile]]. While he would normally be considered 49 technically (in dog years, since one dog year equals 7 human years), he himself said he's 7 and he can't have it both ways. Either he is 49 and going after a 17 year old (which even Stewie found unacceptable) or else he's 7 and going after a 17 year old (which somehow made everything okay?) and both ways are {{squick}}y.
**Her age isn't even the whole of it. They wanted to re-program her to have sex with Brian against her free will. She may have been a robot, but the implications of rape were definitely there - her being underage only makes an already really creepy moment worse.
***Take into mind that Brian is a dog....as in not a human...[[{{Squick}} how many girlfriends has he had?]]
***What about the scene from the ''HannahMontana'' show where Miley's dad (who is played by her real father) told her to put on her wig so he could have sex with her under the notion that Hannah is not his daughter? Seriously, how many incest jokes do they have to have?
**Don't forget that the Evil Monkey is really a pretty nice guy. More than a few people claimed that was a JumpTheShark moment.
*"Stew-roids". This episode was probably just to get fans of the new, gay, Stewie (yes, they exist) to watch it when it turns out that it was a "Meg episode". But ''that's'' not the problem. Then Connie dates Chris (long story) just to make him "cool". But '''that's''' not the problem. Then Chris breaks up with Connie. But '''''that's''''' not the problem. The problem? Well, Connie "teams up" with Meg to get back at Chris, so Meg gets Neil to show an embarrassing video of Chris to get him to be "not cool" anymore, then ''the freaking principal of the school'' just jumps out of nowhere and says that ''Connie'' is now "cool" again for "getting back at Chris". But...when did Connie do anything? Meg at least gave Neil the deal. Now, does this show run on StatusQuoIsGod or not? They could have done it better, MUCH better. Bonus negative points for making Meg look like a [[PsychoLesbian lesbian creep]] near the end. (Tropers/GreatPikminFan)
**What the principal said was that Connie was popular because the guy who dethroned her had himself been dethroned. Therefore, anything he did was considered irrelevant.
***And despite the title being "Stew-roids", the whole reason he got really buffed up was to get revenge on Susie for humiliating him at the party -- and yet at no point does he ever go back to challenge her and his muscles get totally wasted. They also wasted a good opportunity to have him beat the shit out of Brian, and yet by the end of the episode his muscles waste away, having accomplished nothing -- and Brian chases him out a window and he flies away using his flappy skin.
*Without even getting into the politics, what really got me was the episode where Stewie questions the obvious PlotHole of Brian, a 7-year-old dog, having a teenaged son. Brian's response is "If you don't like it, go on the Internet and complain" (yes, I am aware of the irony). Because obviously, no matter how crappy your own writing skills are, all it takes to defend yourself is to call your opponents nerds with no life. Way to bite the hand that feeds you writers. (Tropers/{{AmuroNT1}})
**There's nothing inherently wrong with intentionally invoking the RuleOfFunny, so long as you remember that the key word is "funny".
***That moment was when I (Tropers/MetalShadowX) declared the seventh season to be the absolute worst. I'm pretty lenient on the show (Even ignoring the stupider crap listed here), but that was uncalled for; I also didn't like the other episode scenes with this "joke", but that was definitely the worst joke yet. With season 8 having no Conway Twitty segment in sight, I'd say things are looking up.
***They do the same in the episode "I Dream of Jesus". "Ha, ha! He's on the internet, and I'm in college!" Considering college students are probably one of Family Guy's biggest markets, I'm surprised how few people seem to have noticed the huge TakeThat against the target audience.
*In "Road to Germany" when Stewie sees the Nazi uniform has a [=McCain=]/Palin 08 tag on it. I don't hate this for political reasons, I hate this because this episode aired in OCTOBER of 2008. That joke would be relevant for one month and then it would seem off-putting. We know you guys are Democrats, and speaking as a Democrat I can say it makes the rest of us look terrible.
** The entire episode, really. [[DudeNotFunny It's all over the map.]]
*The episode where they travel to Texas. There's playing up stereotypes for humor, and there's presenting a direct critique of something. Both fine by themselves; ''they do not go well together''. Like bleach and ammonia. It's frightening that anyone out there is so bad at satire as to not know this; even moreso that a major network will still gladly pump the resulting cloud of toxic gas into people's homes.
** I think that this is a semi-stereotype at best. Being from Texas, I find few cowboy hat-wearing, rootin'-tootin', hicks. However, I imagine some Texans do indeed enjoy filling this stereotype while traveling to irritate other people. Sadly, it seems that quite a few non-Texans are surprised when they realize that not every Texan is a horse-wranglin', cattle-russlin', stereotype. Still, the other presumptions made by Seth and his crew are definitely below the belt.
**And then there's the pretense to get the Griffins to Texas: Stewie throws up in church after drinking too much wine and eating communion wafers, leading people to believe he's been possessed. So the ''whole town'' shows up to take Stewie away from his family to ''perform an exorcism'', and the Griffins '''leave Rhode Island'''. Never mind the fact that most church-sanctioned exorcisms are only for extreme cases -- the '''whole fucking town''' thinks that taking a child away from its family to perform a dangerous and potentially fatal religious practice based on a single instance of that child throwing up in church is '''A GOOD THING TO DO?!''' Oh, and let's not forget that while they're on the way to Texas, the Griffins learn that '''the police''' are looking for Stewie. Let me repeat that: '''the police are looking for a child because he may be possessed.''' Listen, I know it's just ''FamilyGuy'', and it's not meant to be intelligent entertainment on any level, but still... this qualifies as an Extreme DarthWiki/WallBanger in my opinion, and one of the absolute dumbest moments in television history.
***Also, considering that Stewie is like, an '''INFANT''', and infants vomit a lot, '''it makes even LESS SENSE''' that they would assume that he is possessed ''simply because he barfed'' '''AFTER EATING A LOT'''. WHAT ARE THESE MORONIC POLICEMEN ON?
***I also like that, despite the fact that the Griffins are stuck inside their house while it is surrounded by an angry mob, in the next scene they have somehow gotten into their car.
***Don't forget the fact that the Texans ''immediately'' try to execute Peter when he tells them he's retarded. Yes, Texas ''did'' execute a mentally retarded man, but he shot a cop. ''[[CriticalResearchFailure They don't try to kill retarded people for simply existing]]''.
**What annoyed me the most about the episode was Brian's short anti-Texas rant that was flirting with being a BigLippedAlligatorMoment where he notes that Texas is "A Red State Full of Right-Wing Nutjobs". Okay, [=MacFarlane=] or whoever the hell wrote this ep, I have one question for you: Have you NEVER heard of Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, or ANY OTHER GODDAMN URBAN SPRAWL IN TEXAS!? Seriously, there are some areas in Texas that are so Blue they make LA look Red. The only reason Texas is a Republican stronghold is because the suburbs around the cities tend to be more red as well as the large population nested in the Panhandle and the Guadelupe Mountains...
*"The Juice Is Loose": it was extremely dated (which they lamely tried to cover up in the intro), the jokes seemed to be stolen from a lame talk show circa 1993 and the ending was such a lame {{Shaggy Dog|Story}} moment. This is proof that if an episode can be dated BEFORE IT EVEN AIRS, it won't be long until the entire show become old and stale.
**I would like to point out that in two past episodes they made jokes that made O.J. innocent in the murder, including a news broadcast the real killer was found, and then all of a sudden he's deemed the murder again, talk about SeasonalRot.
*For [[DreadBaron me]] the final minutes of "Lois Kills Stewie" was the DMOS. The episode was (or so I thought) Stewie's final appearance, as his plans had finally succeeded. In a matter of minutes, we go from Stewie's "last hurrah" turns into a simulation. This was the breaking point, in my
opinion.
*No natter. As above, **Still the [[strike: LampshadeHanging]], correction: the '''expected''' lampshade hanging with [[DontExplainTheJoke Brian and Stewie talking about how people would be disappointed]] [[ItGotWorse only made it worse]].
*[[Tropers/{{vampireklepto}} For me]], they started to get a bad omen watching Stewie's [[VillainSong over-the-top song about world domination]]. Ironic that part of the lyrics berated ''TheSimpsons'' for [[TakeThat not being funny anymore]], when ''Family Guy'' has managed it in fewer seasons. The main problem is watching the degeneration from actual jokes to just sex and violence (watch the chicken fights in order, they start getting a lot darker) and after watching "Love Blactually" with the most annoying, preachy, self-righteous Brian I think gives [[TheSimpsons Lisa Simpson]] a run for her money, I don't have high hopes of the rest of season 7.
*I stuck by Family Guy through the first 7 seasons broadcast in the UK. Then came "I dream of Jesus". Then I saw how dependent the show had become on cutaway or recurring unfunny gags drawn out so damn long, as well as all the political stuff Seth had seeped through lately. That one episode caused me to have enough of the entire show.
**Perhaps this Christian might be looking into this a bit to deeply, but what was up with their portrayal of Jesus as an immature brat in the last half of the episode? Where did that characterization come from at all? The first half of the episode played JesusWasWayCool fairly straight, then dropped it entirely for "immature celebrity" gags featuring Jesus. And in the end, the make Peter out to be more mature than Jesus; maybe it would have been more understandable (if not arrogant) if Brian was the one lecturing Jesus at the end... but ''[[RalphWiggum Peter]]''?
*My personal BerserkButton is the episode "Prick Up Your Ears", where the students at Meg's high school take abstinence pledges instead of being taught safe sex. Now, on one level I can agree with the basic {{Aesop}} that safe sex should be taught and condoms should be used...but what really turned this episode into a [=DMoS=] for me was the implication that if you deliberately choose not to have sex, there's something seriously wrong with you. [[RapeIsOkWhenItIsFemaleOnMale Apparently, according to Lois, rape is alright when it's used as a teaching tool to demonstrate to people why they shouldn't be abstinent.]] So if I, though the freedom of choice that the episode is supposed to promote, decide I don't want to have sex, it's alright for me to be raped as a means of "enlightening" me? Yikes.
**Especially the part about abstinence not being a "reasonable choice". That's like saying you can only either stay away from cigarettes your whole life or smoke 2 cartons every day, there is no in between.
*The one where Quagmire begins to rape [[TheSimpsons Marge]] and then she gives in is a particularly bad example. Matt Groening himself was pissed and chewed [=MacFarlane=] out. Eventually even [=MacFarlane=] admitted the joke was in really bad taste.
**For me, Quagmire crossed the MoralEventHorizon when he did that. Yeah guys, go ahead and show my favorite childhood characters get raped and killed. (Tropers/{{Emperordaein}})
***It gets worse. [[RapeIsLove Marge eventually GIVES IN]]. And after doing it with her, he kills the entire Simpsons family. [[ThisIsSparta WHAT. THE. FUCK.]] [[NoJustNo IS wrong with these people]]?! Some fans do take some solemn refuge in the thought that after Maggie's distinctive pacifier sucking is heard, there is a pause before the last gunshot is heard, which some fans like to interpret as Maggie taking the gun off him and doing him in. Would be bloody glorious if that actually happened, even if it wouldn't quite make up for the previous (appalling) joke.
***In my opinion, one of the worst DarthWiki/{{wall banger}}s about that whole segment was that it could have actually made for a decent joke/sight gag - if they cut it off right before it went straight into DudeNotFunny with the aforementioned cold-blooded murder (or, if you prefer, [[RapeIsLove Marge giving in]]).
**The biggest wallbanger comes in the DVD commentary for the episode where [=MacFarlene=] goes off on a long, unfunny tangent in which he goes on a long, whiny tirade about the joke being cut for syndication, insisting it's some sort of conspiracy perpetrated by Fox because he insulted their beloved cash cow (as opposed to the fact that it was a tasteless joke involving rape, murder and infanticide) then goes on to say the joke was justified because the Simpsons had already made several (Minor, mostly in good will) jokes at Family Guy's expense.
* My. God. Even after giving up on this show forever IT STILL MANAGES TO DISAPPOINT ME. On the 61st Emmys (2009) ''Family Guy'' did a segment for the show. Can you guess what they did? Have the family argue who's going to win? Have Peter meet the nominees? Do something funny? Nope. They repeated a joke. Which joke? THE ONE THAT HAS STEWIE BEATING UP BRIAN. THE EXACT SAME JOKE. The only thing they did change was the lines. And in turn, MADE THE FACT THAT STEWIE BEATS UP BRIAN MAKE NO SENSE. Any you know what, people laughed. TV's finest writers, actors, and other people laughing at this sick excuse for a joke. I died a little inside.
*What's even more stunning than "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" is "420", where Brian basically serves as a mouthpiece for pro-pot legalization propaganda, from conspiracy theories to all the supposed wonderful benefits that society receives once it's done. Not once does the episode really suggest that
anything contesting an entry bad might happen as a result of wide-spread pot use, and the status quo is restored purely as a result of one man's greed.
** ''[[Tropers/LoneHoundoom I]] most certainly object to jokes implying that you can only enjoy [[DoctorWho Doctor]] [[HePannedItNowHeSucks Who]] if you're high.'' Not cool, man, not cool.
* [[Tropers/{{Demetrios}} I]] pretty much stopped watching the show after the episode "Family Goy". Why, you may ask? I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]].
**Bravo, Mark. You took one of the most chilling and disturbing scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' and played it for laughs (a shirtless Peter casually attempts to shoot Lois with a sniper rifle, all while his cigarette sits on the balcony ledge (and since when did they have a balcony?)). The only way that could've made a more tasteless reference to the Holocaust would be by having Mort Goldman complain about how dirty a gas chamber is. Of course, Hentemenn
will be probably read this, and think that's a great idea...
*When Quagmire gets the cat, and the other guys get annoyed and decide to shave it. We see Peter "shaving" it, actually killing it, complete with shrieks of pain from the cat, and blood spurting with each
cut, landing on Peter and everywhere else. Besides not being funny in any conceivable way, this drags Peter's character and intelligence to depths never imagined, and crossed the MoralEventHorizon. The eventual payoff at the end of the episode reinforces these new lows.
**And it is even worse when you (miraculously) make it through to the end, where Quagmire is offering $200 dollars for the information of the whereabouts of his cat. Peter grabs the money out of Quagmire's hand and says he killed the cat in a very callous tone and walks off. Credits roll. '''WHAT!!!???'''
*The episode where they make fun of Carrot Top for his alleged over-reliance on props in order to be funny...because its not like ''FamilyGuy'' uses something way too much for the purpose of comedy.
*After watching a scene where Peter listed "all the brown people you can rape" as a benefit of joining the U.S. Navy in "Saving Private Brian", I swore myself off of ''Family Guy'' forever.
*When they started doing a rape or domestic violence joke at least, oh, once an episode if not more. LOL a woman is being horribly assaulted! I like dark humor, but there's a world of difference between say, Sarah Silverman's infamous bit in ''TheAristocrats'' and in ''Family Guy'' where there's no other joke besides...a woman being raped. Or horribly beaten. And Peter's "Oh get over it, it's a cartoon!" was particularly sickening cause I'm even more offended by the laziness and cowardice of that defense than I am the actual jokes themselves.
**"[[AquaMan You shouldn't have]] [[CompleteMonster led him on.]]" I first saw that gag along with a friend that had been a victim of sexual assault. I had voiced my concerns with her about my own disdain over how Meg's abuse was being played for laughs, having been a child abuse victim myself, but that ''AquaMan'' joke was the beginning of the end. Namely, the end of watching ''Family Guy'' ever again. We found that to be the turning point, sort of like CerebusSyndrome for being incredibly distasteful. You can't just flatly mirror real-life ignorant statements for laughs. Some hate later episodes for basically saying "THIS IS A JOKE", but we hated the series far before then, when they started saying "THIS IS SEXIST/RACIST/ETC." ''and playing this ignorance for laughs.'' Like, when ''KingOfTheHill'' is doing its usual thing, you're just like, "Ha ha, Bible-belt StrawmanPolitical conservative hijinks!" When ''FamilyGuy'' tries something similar, your reaction is more like, "Ha h--wait, incredibly offensive hijinks with a touch of TruthInTelevision? DudeNotFunny." It's hard to classify this under a definitive episode, but the ''AquaMan'' joke is definitely when I first started realizing just how badly these subjects were being handled.
* Next to ''DrawnTogether'', this is the animated show that '''defines''' NegativeContinuity, but when it comes to the characters' backgrounds, you used to look for a little consistency. For most of the show, Peter was the son of an Irish-Catholic, but discovered that one of his ancestors was a black man who was enslaved by his wife's family. And since that ancestor was renamed "Nate Griffin", it is logical to assume that Nate was from Peter's father's side of the family. Even "Untitled Griffin Family History" acknowledged Nate as a member of the family. But then, in one extremely stupid episode, we discover that not only was Francis Griffin '''NOT''' Peter's father, but Peter's father was a drunk living in Ireland. So Nate's outta the picture, unless the writers pulls out of their ass an explanation that Nate went over to Ireland for some reason (which until he does makes Nate a complete waste of time). And then comes ''"Padre de Familia"'' where it turns out that not is only Peter at least three-quarters Irish, but he was actually born from a failed abortion in Mexico. So now all of a sudden, Peter is now technically Mexican and is an illegal. [[DidNotDoTheResearch Putting aside that not only do immigration laws NOT work that way]], having three biological kids and living your entire life in America would at least not make him an illegal. And he has to work with migrant workers on his father-in-law's mansion because he want to get in touch with his non-existent roots, only for a SnapBack at the end. I won't get into detail about Lois' family's changes. For the love of God ([[StrawAtheist oh, wait...]]) guys, why do you feel the need to change what little you had established?
** In ''Family Guy'', immigration laws (like everything else) work the way that would most effectively create an {{anvilicious}} [[StrawmanPolitical strawman conservative]].
* The episode "Business Guy". The episode didn't exactly do or say
anything offensive but it suffered from major plot holes, poor writing, an arbitrary resolution, and had only a few mediocre jokes. This isn't the offensive episode that ruins a show, this is the mediocre episode that makes people realize a show has run out of steam. Peter takes over Carter Pewterschmidt's company after a strip club sequence, whereupon the episode meanders along for 20 minutes (with a mediocre Quagmire joke in it) then tries to use a ''ScoobyDoo'' reference that ''Scooby Doo'' fans are sick of.
* I know it's ''Family Guy'', and it lives to be offensive, but is anyone else starting to notice that the show has a bit of a fixation on Jewish stereotypes and antisemitic gags? We have Peter reenacting scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' for laughs, an entire segment consisting of Mort Goldman coming up with dozens of ways to call Jews cheap.
** Here's something strange worth noting-- when Mort Goldman would originally appear, his large "weakling" personality was the source of comedy from him. Probably three years later after the show returned in 2005, jokes about him started to focus on his being a Jew. I am getting such a bad vibe from that shift in humor.
** Honestly, it goes beyond antisemitic jokes. There is a ton of casual racism
that's just contributing played out for laughs, especially in regard to blacks. The first few times I noticed it was from Brian which, alright, fine; Brian's a staunch progressive with a hidden, slightly racist streak inherited from his father. But then the jokes started coming from Stewie as well. And then every other character. I know the entire cast has been more or less [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into complete jackasses but when the racist jokes come so often and from every character, it starts to seem like maybe [[WriterOnBoard the writers have some issues]].
* Is it just me or has there been a lot of Robin Williams bashing lately? The cutaway in "[=McStroke=]" was lame enough, but then in "Baby Not On Board" a cutaway showed the kids in ''PatchAdams'' killing themselves over Robin's jokes (Something ''MadMagazine'' [[ItsBeenDone already did a decade earlier!]]), "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag" had ''WhatDreamsMayCome'' as one of the [=DVDs=] no one wanted to buy, and most recently in "Big Man On Hippocamus" there was a lame cutaway gag where the joke basically is "Robin isn't funny anymore". Right. [[SarcasmMode Because antisemitism, misogyny, and three minutes of Conway Twitty singing are much funnier than]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTAcw9puvY this]]. And don't think I'm complaining about all this because I'm a butthurt Robin fangirl. I'm complaining because these {{Take That}}s are unoriginal and not clever at all. My only consolation is that they haven't done a {{Gorn}}-filled animated snuff film ala ''{{Futurama}}''... yet. I wouldn't put it past them though.
* The second ''StarWars'' parody managed to be [[SoOkayItsAverage surprisingly alright]], its main flaw coming from missing out on the chance to make jokes (Missed Moment Of Funny?). The abortion joke, however, was [[DudeNotFunny just tasteless]].
* In the episode "Extra-Large Medium," the first gag of the show is Peter skating around in circles shouting "StarlightExpress" over and over. Apparently just [[ShallowParody saying the name of the thing you're making fun of]] counts as a joke now. Taking a page out of the ''SeltzerAndFriedberg'' book of comedy?
** The entire episode is a slap in the face to [[SarahPalin a certain politician]]. Subtle political satire is good, but this is just pathetic. The whole concept of the plot is mean-spirited and completely unnecessary. Said politician understandably criticized the episode for taking shots at someone who was supposed to be miles away from political crossfire. In response the actor who portrayed the character in question proceeded to defend her position and attack the politician for being hyper-sensitive and treating her son poorly. But here's the punchline-Seth backs her up. Not surprising that the actor would defend her own character (she was paid to voluntarily act, mind you), and proceed to explain that the attack was on the politician, not the child, which is not only still in poor taste, but is also a terrible excuse. Not to mention, more unlikely than an episode without an anti-Chrstian/Republican undertone. Her whole "get a sense of humor" is about as weak of an argument as they come. I dare that actor to publicly tell that to every single parent with a Downs Syndrome child, or someone who actually has the syndrome. Just think about it.
* Did anyone else {{facepalm}} after watching Lois make fun of Brian for dating an idiot in ''Whistle While Your Wife Works''? Especially since said idiot was only about as dumb Lois's husband, but much nicer, hotter and more infinitely more mentally stable and emotionally mature?
** Not just that Jillian is a much better companion than Peter, but considering that Lois knows that Brian has always loved her (Lois) since ''Brian in Love'' in Season 2 (and re-iterated in ''Play It Again, Brian''), it was downright cruel for her to mock Brian for his romantic choices. The guy is trying to preserve his friendships with you and your husband, and your marriage, by moving on and looking for someone else, and you throw it back in his face?!
* For me, another DMOS has to be what they did with Connie's character. Originally she was just the popular [[TheLibby Libby]] character who would make fun of Meg for her efforts to try to fit in with the popular kids. But nowadays she goes out her way to tease Meg even if Meg is just minding her own business, and even though Meg honestly wanted to be friends with Connie in the past. It just was fucking cruel in the "Stew-Roids" episode where Meg shows Connie the cuts she deliberately gave herself over the years as a result of Connie's cruel treatment of her when Connie asked Meg for help to make Chris "uncool". Because in later episodes if anything even after seeing how badly Meg has been hurt by her bullying (and how Meg cuts herself as a result of it) she ''still'' treats Meg like shit, if not more so.
* Ugh, the episode ''Baby Not On Board'', we all knew Peter is an idiot but at least he has some plausible reasons for it. Here it just...I don't have the words for it but man I know I couldn't be the only person who wanted to punch out Peter for his mind blowing stupidity. But no, NO, that's not the worst of it. After all the crap he puts his family through, Lois finally blows up at him for it. And then...feels ashamed when Peter ''rebuffs'' her for it? WHAT?! No! Nononononono. {{Rule of Funny}} or not, I can't give this show that one. There are just some {{Karma Houdini}} moments I can't forgive.
** [[Tropers/UberCream Someone]] should probably elaborate for those who are curious: Lois yells at him, and Peter responds with the speech John Candy delivers in ''PlanesTrainsAndAutomobiles''. Yes, the entire speech-- almost word for word. And Lois immediately forgives him.
*** And don't forget they end it by [[DontExplainTheJoke explaining the joke]] with Chris going 'haa, movie reference'. Just in case ya didn't get it. DID YA GET IT?! He's stealing a monologue word-for-word from an infinitely better and funnier movie!...''{{Futurama}}'' can't return fast enough in [[Tropers/TheDogSage my]] opinion.
* For me, the Dethroner came in ''Padre de Familia,'' when, in a cutaway gag, it's revealed Peter didn't even know what 9/11 was until months after...he walked in, saw Lois watching the coverage with tears in her eyes, and he ''laughs and says it must be a woman pilot.'' [[DudeNotFunny THAT'S NOT F*CKING FUNNY!]]
** You'd think [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] would hold more respect for the victims of 9/11, considering he was almost one of them.
***Objection, [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] did not write that episode. Let's give the guy some credit, and assume he didn't read the script until after. But, yeah...that joke should have been vetoed quick.
*** Overruled. He voices two of the main characters; of course he read the script beforehand.
* For me, the DMOS showed up in the episode "No Chris Left Behind" when the family went to see the Nutcracker and Stewie turned to Meg and said "You know Meg, female ballet dancers are famous for anorexia and bulimia, and uh...seems to work out for them. So, hintidy hint hint." Um...ok I know Meg bashing is a RunningGag for this show but that wasn't even funny. Heck the first time I saw that part in the episode I felt disgusted. In part because I've had anorexia myself in the past, and looking back on it I
can be only hope that I don't ever go down that road again. Telling Meg, who was just minding her own business, that she should develop an eating disorder...could he have acted any more like a unlikeable {{jerkass}}? Oh, and that's not the first time...he also deliberately picked at Jillian's issues with her weight and the knowledge that she has bulimia in order to get her to throw up all so he could take one of her teeth to give to the tooth fairy. And Jillian has always been genuinely nice to Stewie! Oh, and basically just the fact that Stewie was getting his daily lulz out of something as potentially life-threatening as having an eating disorder.
** That was very off putting to me as well. Another thing about the situation with Jillian's eating disorder that upset me was Brian's way of dealing with it. His girlfriend is causing serious harm to herself, but Brian doesn't do anything to help her because it makes her look "so hot" to him. What a selfish jackass.
* I think we should start listing all the worst {{Flanderization}} moments that have degraded Lois from a [[MamaBear loving mother and wife]] to a abusive shrew:
** "Go Stewie Go" had Lois trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, giving the [[DarthWiki/WallBanger wall banging]] excuse that Meg's boyfriend was trying to "rape" her when Meg caught them in the act, and then having the gall to insist that she could easily steal him away from her daughter if she wanted to during her "apology". Wasn't this [[CompleteMonster repulsive]] woman a mother?
** "Peter-assment" was an alright episode, as it
made its own entry.
*Explain ''why''
Peter out to be a much nicer guy than most episodes do (even counting him deciding to assault his boss), however, it finished off Lois as a likeable character for me...namely "It doesn't count as sexual harrasment if it's a DethroningMomentOfSuck.

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woman on a man"...so let me get this straight. Men don't care if someone touches them if it's a woman, because we enjoy it no matter what, even if we really can't stand the person, and we are already deeply devoted to the woman we love? And because of that, it doesn't count as sexual harrasment? Coupled with her just ignoring the fact that Meg was, in fact, sexually harrased by a teacher...for god's sake, I never wanted a character to be permanently killed off so much.
*** I'd say it's worse than that: some have noticed that Meg isn't getting as much abuse this season as before (maybe someone's been reading this page). This was, in a way, the case here, but the conversation was so obviously meant to set up either Peter or Lois laughing at and insulting Meg that it was as if the writers figured that if they can't abuse Meg, they're not going to try to write for her.
*** Oh, Lois had an even ''worse'' moment in that episode! When Peter's boss called him to harass him over the phone, Peter begs Lois to tell her (his boss) he's not home. Lois calls him a baby, then gets back on the phone and says "Peter's in the shower...touching himself to your picture." All said with a smile on her face. So Peter has no choice but to take the call. ''What the fucking hell, woman?!''
**** The level of general CharacterDerailment is at the point of no return: I was aware that what Lois did was actually quite heinous, but I just couldn't feel bad about it. Considering that the last time Peter accused someone of sexual assault was his '''doctor''' for a '''digital rectal exam''', it was impossible for me to feel empathy for him.
***** One must remember in that episode, when Peter walked in the kitchen looking traumatised, Lois asks what's wrong, to which Peter says, "I was raped." Though it's true that Peter wasn't raped, one MUST remember that Lois's first reaction to this statement is that she '''LAUGHS!''' WTF Lois?!?
*** There's also the massive gap in logic that Lois doesn't seem to care that another woman is trying to seduce her husband.
** Lois basically telling Meg that she should kill herself in the episode "Stew-Roids". At one point in the episode Lois attempted to comfort Meg who was ''denied the right to attend a party Chris was holding at their own house''. However, Lois gives up trying to comfort Meg after 45 minutes, gives her a Sylvia Plath novel, a bottle of Ambien and leaves her to her misery, saying "whatever happens, happens." All because she couldn't be bothered to spend any more of her precious time on Meg. That moment pretty much made Lois out to be the ultimate [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] in my eyes.
** In the episode "Peter's Daughter" when Meg thinks she's pregnant, she refuses to have an abortion. Lois suggests Meg consider drinking and smoking a lot to cause a miscarriage, but not to "wimp out halfway through", because Lois ended up with Chris.
*** Not to mention when Peter's actions put Meg in a coma Peter starts to feel bad and rethink how he's been treating Meg. And what does Lois tell Peter when he says he feels like he never treated Meg as well as he should have? "Oh, don't be too hard on yourself, Peter. We all do things that we're not proud of." It's just the idea that she basically doesn't think the fact that Peter put Meg into a coma is that big of a deal. [[BerserkButton F*ck THAT! It IS a big f*cking deal!]]
* The episode that consisted of Brian getting a pilot published which was then butchered by TV execs with a subplot of Stewie suffering a severe head injury and Chris and Meg have to cover it up while he's unconscious. The jokes ranged from mediocre to DudeNotFunny. I was horrified that they tried to cover up Stewie's injury by throwing him under the car while it was pulling out, and the incest joke that was included in Brian's butchered show was disgusting.
** It's completely understandable to have a subplot where a character gets knocked out and the others pretend he's okay, but when it's an ''infant'' that's knocked out, and the family shows callous disregard of the injury to the point of negligence ([[NauseaFuel maggots growing on exposed brain matter, a goddamn raccoon gnawing at the wound]]), it just goes from being in bad taste to becoming completely, unrepentantly horrible.
** I would like to to point out that was Peter who threw Stewie under that car, because he wanted to make Lois think she was behind Stewie's injury for no good reason and and that Meg was going to take Stewie to hospital but Peter stopped. This leads to another example of Lois' [[CharacterDerailment character derailment]] when she immediately suggests a cover-up, just as Peter had been doing.
* The episode where Brian got angry over the Army being allowed to try and recruit at Meg and Chris's high school was it for me. I'd had enough of him at that point.
* Peter shooting the Native American girl (who was about to be ''[[RapeAsComedy raped]]'' no less) in "April In Quahog". Might as well rename the show to ''Misogyny Guy'' at this point.
** There's also when it's implied Meg strangled a cat to death. Seriously, '''[[CharacterDerailment Meg???]]''' Great, now she's the ''FamilyGuy'' equivalent of [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Evil Manga Kaworu]].
* The episode "Dog Gone". It was pretty much just scenes of dogs getting mutilated and killed horribly, paired with an animal rights {{aesop}}. It also shows that Brian's family would love to kill and eat him to see what he tastes like, but after hearing (falsely) that he died, they still manage to be sad about it. That was the episode that ruined the rest of the series for me.
** I seriously couldn't enjoy any part of that episode. Also, I found it weird that at the town meeting, Brian was demanding that everyone stop eating meat, even though he's a dog ... an animal that is, by nature, carnivorous. Even today, a dog's diet consists mainly of meat or meat based products and Brian's always been shown eating meat throughout the series, so from where did this come?
* This may not qualify, since it was ''technically'' on ''TheClevelandShow'', but it was a crossover episode, and the [=DMoS=] moments apply to ''Family Guy'' characters. So in this episode, Cleveland finds out that his ex-wife Loretta had died, and he doesn't know why he is so sad about it, considering that he hated her in every way possible. This seems like a decent emotional plot to an episode, except for the cause of death. Quagmire travels down to Cleveland's new (old) town to tell Cleveland that [[KarmaHoudini Peter]] had accidentally dropped a T-Rex skeleton (don't ask) on Cleveland's house from Family Guy, where Loretta was living. She was in the bathtub and fell out of the house in that silly way Cleveland did a lot, except she broke her neck when the tub hit the ground. Instead of calling an ambulance, Peter stood there and laughed at her "gross boobs." This was a horrible thing to do, even for Peter.
** Oh, AND Quagmire took Loretta's dead body, put it in a French Maid costume, and then ''had sex with it'' before driving it to Cleveland's for a proper burial.
* At the end of the episode ''FOX-y Lady'', Lois reveals that she no longer works for FOX, with no explanation given to how or why, then she gives a piss poor [[LampshadeHanging excuse]] that [[ViewersAreMorons no one cares]], to make up for the writers' inability to properly end the episode. As a writer, it's your job to atleast [[HandWave attempt]] to write a proper ending.
*The 150th episode begins with another Brian and Stewie episode. Brian eats Stewie's poo. And washes it down with Stewie's puke. Then wipes Stewie with his tongue. {{Squick}} does not even begin to describe it.
**For me, it was Brian trying to pierce Stewie's ear, and getting the pin lodged inside his ear canal and getting it stuck...I mean, ''my GOD''.
**At the end of the episode Brian appears to say "I hope you enjoyed this very special episode." This merely served as adding insult to injury.
** There was also the incredibly hamfisted character drama between Stewie and Brian, especially Brian being suicidal which comes out of nowhere and is done in the most eye rollingly bad fashion imaginable. And then afterwards Brian and Stewie proclaim that they're best friends and they love each other...which makes no sense when just a few minutes earlier, Stewie made Brian eat his poop and outright said he did it just to see if he could get Brian to do it.
** I was excited to hear that the episode was supposed to have no random cutaway scenes. I wanted to see if Family Guy would be able to stand on its own without them, and boy was I not surprised. It was a 45 minute long {{bottle episode}}, taking place entirely in a bank vault. The other fifteen minutes was just old/unaired footage. Cheapest milestone event EVER.
** The episode did not even contain humor, nor make an attempt to. In a comedy show, they didn't even try to do anything funny, or even very entertaining.
** It was like they were just trying to see if they could piss off everyone watching the show...
** Considering the episode upped Brian's Sueness to previously unheard levels, brought Stewie IMMENSELY OOC, focused it solely on those two, I have a feeling it was more of a {{take that}} to everyone who complained.
**The only episode I turned off due to sheer boredom with it all, and I can't be the only one
* The episode "Quagmire's Dad" takes the Brian hate to a new level with the blatant, unprovoked one-sided "fight" between Brian and Quagmire (who I'd already lost respect for because of his TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Brian), not to mention the subsequent death threat.
** The entire plot of the episode was cringe worthy, it starts off with the portrayal of an EasySexChange that is PlayedForLaughs and {{Squick}} for the entirety of the episode. [[DidNotDoTheResearch The sex change is shown to not only change sex but do everything else as well.]] I believe the character in question even became shorter due to the operation as she is seen in heels the rest of the episode. No one in the episode sides with transsexuals, they just seem to have varying degrees of disgust regarding the whole situation. Quagmire admitting he just wants his dad to be happy is the closest thing. To top it all of, there wasn't even a real ending, Brain and Quagmire fight and then Brain says "I fucked your dad". No resolution, No {{Aesop}}, just "Hey look! Isn't this gross?"
** This episode gets frickin' worse: Lois and Peter. I'm perfectly fine with Peter being an insensitive douche but Lois is Brian's friend. I mean I know his plots are boring but they totally treated him like garbage and chased him out and then laughed and laughed about how he was dating a transsexual instead of breaking it to him gently. Peter maybe but not Lois. [[DudeNotFunny And especially not after an episode where we learn Brian was contemplating suicide. My god these writers have lost all sense of shame and decorum.]]
** This episode shows Brian's worst descent from [[OnlySaneMan the likable voice of reason]] to UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, and then enters outright {{jerkass}} territory towards the end of the episode. He starts out needy and harbours [[SmallNameBigEgo unhealthy levels of self-importance]] when Lois isn't on-board with his every move. Upon meeting Ida, he forces a mention of the pretentious-sounding seminar he's attended to strike up a conversation, and continues to label himself a "writer" despite recent episodes showing his [[GiftedlyBad woeful ineptitude]]. Brian makes out with Ida, and presumably reach fourth base in Ida's hotel room. Upon his return home, he's pissed that Lois is unable to show genuine interest in his seminar (did he ask anyone else what they'd be up to?), but is excited to mention the woman he met last night. Sure, Lois' reaction to the photo is [[CharacterDerailment uncharacteristically harsh]], but when Brian hears from Stewie about Quagmire's (as-yet-unnamed) father having undergone gender reassignment surgery, he reacts just as brutally (and silences [[ButtMonkey Meg]] when she ''does'' ask him about the seminar). Upon {{the reveal}}, Brian's disgust is a [[{{Understatement}} protracted]] VomitIndiscretionShot that was presumably meant by the writers to appear {{squick}}y, but if we could all take a moment to consider the long-running and [[ElephantInTheLivingRoom unignorable]] quirk in the series' run of {{interspecies romance}} Brian has encountered: Ida may have a vagina that has been surgically constructed from her inverted penis, but Brian is a freakin' ''DOG''! Brian has no right to be so vomit-inducingly disgusted (or require thorough scrubbing afterward) when he discovers that his partner was not born female, when he isn't even the same species as her. To top it, yelling to Quagmire, "I fucked your dad" confirms his unwarranted prejudice, and any remaining shred of sympathy dissolves hereon. [[SarcasmMode Way to go, Brian. A real mature retort there]].
*** Sounds like another fail parody of a 90's pop reference. The Crying Game at least was treated well by ''RobotChicken''.
** Along with all this, let's not forget that Brian is the victim here, and he didn't even do anything wrong. ''He didn't know that was Quagmire's father''. And Quagmire's righteous indignation and beating of Brian is especially hypocritical when you consider the fact that there are probably hundreds of people who'd be far more justified in beating '''him''' half to death for raping them and/or their loved ones. Or maybe one of those children he's fathered, but never sees, could give him a good beating.
*** Me personally, this was the episode where I gave up on Quagmire. Yes, I could agree with some of what he said in "Jerome is the New Black" (even IF it made Brian cry), but '''senselessly beating the crap out of somebody who had no idea of what he did was wrong, and didn't EVEN want to fight back (and was RUNNING AWAY IN FEAR)''' is... just... WOW. Seriously, if there a REASON for causing friction between Quagmire and Brian, ok, fine. ...but god damn, Seth...
**** The entire reason of Quagmire beating Brian makes no sense to me. Is it normal practice in {{Eagleland}} to attack your ugh... mother's boyfriend? It looks like they just thought it would be cool make Glenn beating Brian. But [[ConfusingMultipleNegatives it's not just not funny]] it's not even an attempt to be funny. It's just horrible.
* "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". If they were going for RefugeInAudacity, they failed, because [[SomebodyElsesProblem that is]] ''[[SomebodyElsesProblem exactly]]'' [[SomebodyElsesProblem how if works in]] RealLife. It's disturbing to watch and made me feel sick.
** The joke itself was pretty funny (Ha, Dr. Seuss wrote a book named "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". This makes no sense, why would someone write such book for children? Thats makes me laugh) ManateeGag just ruined it. It didn't add anything but disturbing context.
** [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi I]] was really shocked when I first witnessed that cutaway, so nowadays, I would change the channel for a few seconds. They could've thought of a less painful cutaway to fill 22 minutes?
* All the put downs towards women in "The Splendid Source" literally made this troper say, "screw you" to her television.
** Seconded. I had given up on Family Guy, but decided to give IT one more chance. I thought this episode was kind of funny. Then I got up to the point where Peter is in the room with the smartest people in the room, and smugly comments, "Not a lot of women." Well, this woman is smart enough to skip this show and its lazy, misogynistic writers.
* I happen to be politically conservative, and swore off ''Family Guy'' after about seven seasons' worth of straw man arguments. Stewie in a Nazi uniform with a "[=McCain=]/Palin" button? Check. Peter repeating "We should bomb Iraq" at the 9/11 memorial? Check. I literally threw my ''Family Guy'' DVDs away.
** Dude, Tropers/MacPhisto is a borderline '''MARXIST''', and even he is disgusted by Seth's endless left-wing strawmanship (gives the rest of us a bad name). I believe that Sarah Palin is the worst thing to happen to this country since it was founded, and even I think "comparing-Republicans-to-Nazis" is both in bad taste and incredibly stupid.
* "Patriot Games", home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and the infamous "Shipoopi" scene. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.
* The episode "Partial Terms of Endearment" (Unaired by FOX) made me so disappointed and disturbed. Not like I have anything to do with pro-life, but somehow they managed to convince me that probably they won't do abortion. I thought "Oh, it's like season finale, maybe they decided to add new character to family with hilarity and heartwarming ensuing. That must be great, [[TheScrappy even if it won't]] things can't get worse" [[StatusQuoIsGod but no]].
** What's even more offensive is the way Peter keeps trying to induce an abortion on Lois.
** It gets even worse when Peter, for the sole purpose of providing a counter argument, is persuaded to become pro life after a 30 second video clip, even by his standards of stupidity, that's too ridiculous. Especially when he went from trying to kill the baby several times to being against abortion in the event of incest, genetic disorders, and even rape. What the fuck?
*** This is made even worse, because abortion is a serious topic, and having the [[StrawmanPolitical dumbest character on the show become the anti abortion strawman]] for no reason is completely offensive to a serious issue.
* This is going to be controversal: In one episode, Peter gets shipwrecked and Brian becomes Lois' new husband. We see that Brian has sexual interest in Lois, but she refuses to do youknowwhat, even though he is a way better father than Peter. In the end, Lois is together with Peter again and NOW she tells Brian that sie did wanted to move their beds together, elaborating on what kinds of things she would have liked to do with him. Don't get me wrong, dog-on-woman is creepy and just gross. But do you really have to tease him with this? Goddammit, he got your daughter a date with a famous sports reporter (which had one of the few funny lines in this episode BTW)! It just feels like she was saying "Yeah, you were nice, but I don't feel like you should be rewarded for it. So FUCK YOU!" This scene makes me want to pay somebody to do a Flash animation in which Lois gets repeatedly stabbed with a rusty knife.
*"Go Stewie Go". The episode was basically justifying Lois and her [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Wallbanging]] motivation of trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, being so selfish to ignore the fact that this was apparently the first normal guy Meg has ever dated (which the episode also goes out of its way to exaggeratedly point this out). Does she take a moment to respect her daughter? (or her husband, [[NegativeContinuity but she's already cheated on him before]], [[SoYeah so...]]) No! She just continues on in her already {{Scrappy}} {{Flanderization}}. [[KarmaHoudini And she gets off the whole ordeal]] with giving a simple (and horrible) apology to Meg and Peter ([[SarcasmMode wait ''silly me'']] she didn't apologise to Peter, [[WallBanger '''she blamed him''' for the whole thing!]]).
**The A-plot of "Go Stewie Go", I understand they were trying to do "Tootsie", but seriously, all they did was replace "soap opera" with "kids' show." That's it, that's all it it was, other than the "band aid" gag, there was ZERO originality.
**Peter exhibiting incestuous attraction towards Meg in the episode "Go Stewie Go" was downright disgusting and made this troper rather uncomfortable, especially when he made Meg kiss him on the lips. Given that Peter is already filling in the verbal and physical abuse aspects of being an [[AbusiveParents abusive parent]] we can now add sexual abuse as well!
**But the ultimate [=DMoS=] of the episode was the bar scene. [[FridgeLogic Did Brian just try and hit on a baby girl?]] It may
have been cut due to not being signed. If yours Stewie in drag, sure, but [[CompletelyMissingThePoint the point of the costume was cut, feel free to add it back in as long as it complies with fool the above rules.producers that he was ''A ONE YEAR OLD GIRL!'']] Wouldn't Brian ''also'' think that this is [[{{Squick}} a ONE YEAR OLD's hand]] that he's trying to place on his ''[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean other tail?]]''
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'''[[ThisIsGonnaSuck Well, here it is.]] [[MostTriumphantExample The worst offender of the worst offenders.]] [[SarcasmMode Enjoy.]]'''
* The episode can basically be described as an anti-theist ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.- SNES Master KI
** Not to mention the above quote of "her very existence proves no benevolent force exists" is said with a complete straight face. It's not meant as a joke. It's not meant as an insult to her. It's meant as a fact. Danny Smith is the one that is the creator of this. FridgeLogic applies and means that he's therefore a non-benevolent individual that hates everyone and everything. I'll be completely honest, I watch ''Moral Orel'' and laugh at its portrayal of 'straw Christians'. Mostly because I know that most of them aren't like that, and it's a small vocal minority. But if the people who make the show want to focus on them so and empower them, it's their choice to do so. But this show, it truly hurt me and hurt my feelings. But then I've noticed that ''Family Guy'' has become more and more about being a mouth piece for far-left liberal and atheist beliefs and less about being funny. Really, if you're going to have a show be a mouthpiece, stop saying it's just for jokes, and say what it is: [[SouthPark your own personal propaganda machine.]]
*** I always saw the Meg statement as an extension of The Writer's general misogyny, interpreting "Meg" as basically "any woman who isn't hot". In this way, the statement makes [[InsaneTrollLogic vaguely more sense]], but [[BeyondTheImpossible becomes so much more disgusting as a result]].
*** I think Brian shows his true colors here. He insults Meg for being ugly... this coming from a dog. I don't know what happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but Brian apparently doesn't care. What he sees as "ugly", is totally irrelevant to God because He created what He believes is actually good. It's also worth noting that Brian completely disregards Meg's Christian messages as a whole. Whether or not you agree with a religion, any at all really, a lot of them have genuinely good messages of not stealing, not lying, and so forth. Most people of any religious affiliation (including the non-religious) would probably attest to this. Furthermore, Brian comes off as a HUGE hypocrite when he criticizes Meg for being some "crazy, outspoken, conversion-happy Christian", but it turns out that it's okay for him to convert her into an atheist. [[SarcasmMode Man I love double standards.]]
** Oh thank you for seeing the exact same problem I saw. The argument isn't even an attempt at logic, it's just "If God existed, he would've made Meg pretty." To sum up, if God existed then the atheistic creator of the cartoon would've have drawn a single character in an attractive manner. Dear Krishna, Mr. [=MacFarlane=]! Does he actually consider that a realistic reason to not believe in a God? The strangest part is that Brian's statement is accepted as a reasonable argument and the entire book burning is put to a halt and all the townspeople, who had started behaving like Nazis after becoming more religious, go back to being normal.
*** Similar to how most atheists won't spend their entire time trying to prove that everyone who is religious is an idiot Nazi and most atheists are actually quite fine with people practicing whatever religion makes them happy. But Danny Smith is the exception that proves the rule.
**** As an atheist, I was still somehow offended. It was either going far beyond the realms of parody in terms of portraying Christians, or it was the whole bringing great shame to atheists everywhere. It was just plain painful to watch.
***** The whole town converts back instantly too. Apparently Meg's existence is a pretty strong argument.
****** The really ridiculous thing is that in early seasons Brian was at least semi-religious. He had a Bible handy at times ("And the Lord said, Go Sox," in response to someone wondering what the bible verse people frequently referenced at ballgames was) and he was the only one who recognized the plagues when Peter made himself a false god, slapping Peter and declaring [[ThisIsSparta "God. Is. Pissed."]]
* That episode doesn't even pass the FridgeLogic test - God and Jesus are characters in the show, as is the Grim Reaper! Brian's venturing into FlatEarthAtheist territory saying that God doesn't exist in a universe where God can be found picking up women at the bar, all for the sake of being a mouthpiece. Also, as a liberal agnostic who used to like ''FamilyGuy'' for totally non-political reasons, I've just gotta comment that sharing his world views doesn't make the recent AuthorTract format any less preachy or condescending. The show just plain isn't funny anymore.
** Crap, at the end of the episode, it even showed that Brian's hypothesis that even though God doesn't exist (except that he does on the show), the universe is an amazing and wondrous place is wrong, as the universe was actually a molecule in the lamp on Adam West's nightstand.
** Wasn't there an episode where Meg became pretty and at the end of the episode it was concluded that being pretty wasn't good for her and she switched back to being ugly of her own free will? Which means that Meg choosing to not be pretty means there isn't a God because if there was a God he would've gone out of his way to interfere with her free will and force her to be attractive. HeadDesk, HeadDesk, HeadDesk.
* Not to mention that they managed to get the entire ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' cast to cameo and barely used them in the weakest guest appearance comedy yet on the show. I had all but given up on the show for a while, but being a TNG fan decided to sit for this one, my blood pressure steadily increasing as it became increasingly obvious that I was subjected effectively to a bait-and-switch (though I don't blame Fox for promoting the cameo, given what a train wreck the entire episode became).
** The first line of the episode implied that ''StarTrek'' convention-goers rarely see sunlight. Guess they wanted to pull out the fresh material right away.
* For the first half of the episode it seems to explicitly set up the moral that you shouldn't discriminate against someone for their faith or lack of one, or that maybe Meg just happened to take her religious belief a little too far... but nope! According to FamilyGuy, Christianity = BAD and Atheism = GOOD.
** That was the same aesop they seemed to be setting up for the episode "Familiy Goy". If I remember correctly, it ended with Jesus saying "[[BrokenAesop Six to one, they're [all religions] all complete crap]]".
** Either that or he's going with the flow of the [[{{Anvilicious}} overly passionate]] young people who [[AcceptableTargets blame religion for everything that's wrong with the Universe]]. Either way it's bad.
* Let's put it this way: this episode was so bad that ''even Seth'' had to eventually apologize for just how blatantly ''stupid'' this episode was in Jerome is the New Black (Quagmire's [[http://www.hulu.com/watch/111154/family-guy-quagmire-goes-off brutal tirade]] against Brian, that many consider Glen's CrowningMomentOfAwesome). This is the same man who approved "Prom Night Dumpster Baby" and yet ''THIS'' was the thing he apologized for. Seriously, it's that bad.
** The worst part. The single worst part of all of this... is that at the end of the episode, where someone calls out Brian, FINALLY, someone calls his bullshit, he comes home crying...and Stewie comforts him and tells him it's okay and not to worry about it. Brian has always been Stewie's first target. Sure, there's some serious FoeYay, but he ALWAYS goes the hell after Brian. And he comforts him. Comforts him and removes that nagging doubt that he's not a complete and utter failure of a character. [[INeedAFreakingDrink Someone get me a beer...]]
* The biggest irony of this whole mess is that Brian's speech at the end of the episode was ''supposed'' to be his CrowningMomentOfAwesome. Instead it wound up here.
* One has to wonder what the point of this episode was: was it meant to turn Christians into atheists? Make atheists shun their friends and family if they believed in, well, ''anything?'' Were we supposed to ''agree'' with Brian and admit that the majority of Americans are evil idiots because they believe in something? WHAT. WAS. THE. POINT?
* The reason why Meg became a Christian in the first place was because her life was starting to ''really'' suck. In other words Danny Smith arrogantly assumed that the ''only reason'' religion exists is because peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then...never mind the fact that Brian's big argument that converts the whole town to atheism is "Peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then." So, um, the exact same thing except with atheism. Not much a difference, is it?
** It also implied that the only reason people believe there isn't a God is because people's lives suck. Not because atheism is what makes sense to some people or anything. Of course not. It simply must be that all atheists are what they are because the God they don't believe in is a jerk. This episode made this atheist want to scream.
* This atheist was extremely offended that the episode portrayed Christians as if they were total morons. This is not the 13th fucking century, very few theists are that radical; not all of them are going to try to convert you or run you out of town. Have some class.
* It didn't help that the only Christians they portrayed are the vocal, extreme minority. Yes, some Christians still practice book burning but the same logic can be applied to everything: some men cheat on their wives so does that make all men evil? No.
* ''Possibly'', Brian's argument is what Christians refer to as the "problem of pain": why would God, who is Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent, allow for abusive parents, rapists, mustard gas, war etc? (In RealLife, it's a highly contested issue within the Christian faith alone.) Brian's argument might've held ''some'' water if handled properly. Instead, it came out as: "Meg, a ''fictional character'' has a really crummy life; ergo a benevolent God cannot exist." This episode, it seems, was nothing more than a logic-free TakeThat not only at Christianity, but ''any'' type of faith in the unseen.
** I want to say that first off, I am a hardcore Christian. However, this is my biggest problem with most of the quotes on this page...I feel like we're all totally missing the point. Brian's argument wasn't so much "Meg is ugly, therefore, God can't exist," it was more "Meg, why do you believe/trust in a God that allows all of these horrible things to happen to you?" (Her family hating her, her friends making fun of her, etc...) I think Brian's argument makes a little more sense than we give it credit for, but at the same time, he doesn't fully understand the Christian faith either to make a statement like that...in any case, it still fits nicely on this page.
** Yeah that's what I figured, it didn't seem like he was calling Meg "ugly" or anything, to me it seemed more like he was commenting on that the fact that nearly EVERYBODY that makes eye contact with Meg considers her ugly and is repulsed by her(not to mention the way overrused gag of her being mistaken for a guy), and he uses that logic to convince her that god dosen't exist-and that was more then enough to convince her to believe Brian, and when you consider all the abuse she's gone through, Brian's argument would naturally make perfect sense to her. I didn't have the same hatred for this episode that most people do, but it STILL definitely went too far with the ridiculously over-the-top scene with Brian being demonized by everyone just for being an Atheist.
* In somewhat of a direction toward the FridgeLogic[=/=]WallBanger portion of this, the fact that Brian is an atheist was introduced and driven toward maddening levels, completely ignoring the fact that his atheism is a direct punch in the face of the admittedly inconsistent continuity anyway. Now to be fair, the dumb line about Meg being too ugly to allow a God to exist was said by an AuthorAvatar, Brian and the fact that he said something so insanely wall banging with a straight face may have been an attempt at making it funny. This didn't make it any less jarring at the fact that Brian apparently doesn't believe in God and Jesus after having ''seen them with his own eyes, '''spent an entire episode trying to convince Peter that he shouldn't try to take over for the real God''''', and on a less notable example been the victim of otherworldly/paranormal events in the past, such as his ''entire house being sucked into nothingness.'' So either the context of this episode is that the God that has been shown in the past in the show was written off as if he never existed just to make a point or one of Brian's head injuries throughout the series caused him to forget the fact that he's been ''confronted'' by God in the past.
* If we cut past all of Danny Smith's bad logic the moral of the episode was "If God exists then why does suffering exist?". The problem with that is that, at some point, nigh-everyone in a religious society thinks of this: we didn't need an entire episode just to hear the same question.
* Wait, Meg had just become a Christian in that episode. Last time I checked people who've just joined a new religion wouldn't be that good at defending it.
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*The episode where Peter leaves his jobless housewife and three kids (one of which being a baby) because he suddenly turned gay. Yes, guys, we understand that it's okay to be gay, but that doesn't give you the right to abandon all of your responsibilities without so much as a token conversation about child support. Hell, Lois even agrees that Peter didn't do anything wrong! He fucking did! He left your ass with three kids and NO WAY TO SUPPORT THEM. HE DIDN'T EVEN WAIT FOR HER TO GET A JOB SO THAT HIS FAMILY (which he should still care somewhat about because, you know, gay people aren't amoral assholes) COULD SUPPORT THEMSELVES!! YES, THATS RIGHT PETER, GO AHEAD AND JUST &^!@#&*^!$&(@#*#!$YGHQSF!!!
**Considering that it was [[RalphWiggum Peter]], they were better off without him, which [[LampshadeHanging the episode hung a lantern on]]. It had good comedic value, but it shows that the writers failed once again at preaching political correctness in a DeadBabyComedy. If he had proved ''SouthPark'' right about it just being a GagSeries, [[{{Understatement}} this Article would be a lot shorter]].
**You forgot to mention the worst parts. Peter became test subject for genetic experiments because he couldn't afford to pay for the damages a horse he bought did, almost ruining the family. SoYeah, to ruin your family and then leave them without any kind of support just because you're now gay is the right thing to do, and if you dare to say otherwise, you're a homophobe. And the most shocking thing is that everybody was putting Peter's happiness before everything, despite Peter being the cause of all the problems. I wonder why there are still so many people who says that Peter is not a blatant AntiSue.
***Some of you seem to be forgetting about Lois's billionaire father. Peter didn't need to support her, because daddy would just pay the bills.
***Did anyone forget that he was injected with ''gay person DNA''?! Did fucking ''[[{{Sonichu}} Chris-Chan]]'' write this?
***Eh, Peter's just lucky he's the main character of ''Family Guy''. [[DesignatedHero At this point, in any other show, he'd be the villain.]] No really, he would be. Just paint his skin a disgusting shade of green, put a nasty-looking sword in his hands, and you've got yourself an honest-to-badness [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Great Unclean One]].
****At this time I'm reminded of "{{Superman}} At Earth's End", a comic where guns are used to solve all the problems, and then ends with an anti-gun message. Similarly, you can't have a pro-tolerance message in an episode that makes such egregious, un-ironic use of stereotypes. Things just work a certain way, and no amount of "comedy" can make up for that.
**Lois' line "I can't change your orientation, and it'd be wrong for me to try" absolutely made NO SENSE since they DID CHANGE Peter's orientation earlier. However, [[{{Anvilicious}} banging people's head with the idea that homosexuality is not a choice was more important]].
*I simply love how Stewie suddenly takes the stance of staunch christian conservative (or perhaps christians in general, considering the show) for the sake of a temporary AuthorTract.
**Not to mention that Stewie is gay according to the {{Word of God}}
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[[folder: "Road to the Multiverse"]]
*"Road to the Multiverse" is ten minutes of poop and fart jokes interlaced with a thin plot and several Meg-is-ugly jokes. Then, in the very end, Brian from an alternate universe wants to come back to the main universe even though he [[FridgeLogic would've already gotten the chance to stay when he traveled with his Stewie through the Multiverse and didn't take that opportunity]] only to walk off and be hit by a car. The car was so predictable and obvious and that there wasn't a single person who didn't see it coming. Worse yet, alternate Brian would've been an interesting plot for a future episode but no, they killed him off instantly, which made the last seven minutes of the show worthless.
**This is exactly why the end of the Disney segment in the episode is so bad; this show is just as anti-Semitic as Seth purports Disney to be. Yes, we all know it's ''Disney'', but don't fucking pretend that this show isn't as offensive as anything that Disney puts out.
***If it was a shot at "Uncle Walt's" anti-semitism, it wasn't a very good one. If they had an animated Walt leading the charge to kill Mort, then that would have made more sense. But there wasn't, everything was ''all'' happy-scrappy until Mort showed up. The regular characters had designs reminiscent of various Disney characters (the latest being Meg's, based off of ''The Little Mermaid's'' Ursula, which came out waaayy long after Disney's death) and it gives off the impression that the Walt Disney Corporation as a whole hates Jews. And as for Family Guy not being anti-semitic? Well, let's see: the recurring Jewish character is Mort Goldman, who is pretty much a walking-talking personification of almost every Jewish stereotype known to man, his lesser seen family are pretty much his clones, and that when Peter once put up a "scare-Jew" (i.e. a scarecrow made up to look like AdolfHitler) to scare Mort away from the house so he wouldn't borrow anymore of the Griffens' stuff, Mort runs away screaming for everyone to protect Jon Stewart ("He's our most important Jew!") from the "reincarnated Hitler". So while Family Guy isn't anti-semitic per se, it does absolutely nothing to offset/subvert Jewish stereotypes. But yes, the Disney universe was a shitty joke, there is that too.
**** This troper actually ''loved'' the Disney universe segment and considers it the series' CrowningMomentOfAwesome. But, since [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] ''constantly'' makes that stupid Disney joke (Brian at the beginning of "Movin' Out, Brian's Song", the cutaway in some episode saying that Goofy goes to Hell for being involved with 9/11, etc.), I have to agree that the end of that segment was stupid. I was expecting a meta-joke about the Disney universe being too expensive to animate, and that would be why they had to leave. Not sure if that would have been better. Though, the end of that segment was not enough to make me not like that scene, "It's a Wonderful Day for Pie" and the Herbert part were still gold.
*** The thing is though, Walt Disney wasn't actually that racist, he was actually ''less racist'' than most people of his era. The reason him being anti-semetic became a popular belief was because of [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,295141,00.html a comment Brett Butler made on Letterman.]] Brett Butler's a psychotic drug addict, and was so addicted at the time that her show went through five producers in five years.
** I thought the whole Road to the Multiverse counts as a DethroningMomentOfSuck. You can literally put all the jokes in three categories. Bowel movements, Meg is ugly, and violence. Mayor [=McCheese=] gets shot, [[spoiler:alternate universe Brian gets hit by a car (predictable enough)]], John Hinkley (Reagan's attempted assassin) painted the Sistine Chapel, and Mort the Jew gets beat to death in the Disney universe.
** Wellesely Wild's anti-theism shines through again where he says Christianity holds back science here as well.
** What was really frustrating about it was the statement that without Christianity there would not have been the Dark ages. In reality, the biggest contributor to the Dark Ages was the power vacuum created by the fall of {{the Roman Empire}}, and it was largely the culture and technology brought back to Europe by the ''Crusades'' that ended them.
**Never mind the fact that Europe =/= the entire world. While Europe was enveloped in the Dark Ages, scientific advances still continued in other places like the Far East and the Islamic Empire (which reintroduced scientific and mathematic discoveries to Europe centuries after they had been lost there).
* When they went to the world where Japan won WW2. That joke was completely racist.
* This troper, a secular humanist, found the Christianity/Dark Ages joke in very bad taste.
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[[folder: "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag"]]
*The worst part of the Episode was when Brian dates an older woman was when showed the younger girl a video of himself in ''DieHard''. It wasn't funny, and it was just another use of LimitedAnimation. Considering that this is coming from ''Family Guy'', which has shown us four minutes of Conway Twitty singing with no animation ''at all'', this can be seen as an improvement.
**The episode where Brian got involved with an actual elderly woman. You know, someone who's actually OLD and not just above 21 years old. Even though that old lady died at the end of that episode, that was treated with a lot more respect and pathos then this episode saw fit to treat a woman who was, horrors of horrors, MORE THEN FORTY YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!
**The supposed {{Aesop}} of this episode was [[BrokenAesop broken beyond repair]]. Brian berates everyone for treating him poorly for dating an older woman, pointing out the hypocrisy of younger women dating older men and younger men dating older women. So, what happens? Again, the older woman tells Brian (who tells her he feels ''horrible'' for sleeping with another, younger, woman) that he's immature and that she's too good for him. Yes, according to the writers, it's not due to traditional sex roles, or {{double standard}}s, or traditional reasons that the idea of a man dating an older woman is frowned on. No, according to this episode, it's because men are immature. [[StreetFighter OF COURSE!]] I'm not sure which sex should be offended more...
*** Even though his family's reactions were jerkassy and his girlfriend seemed to suddenly and inexplicably turn into [[TheSimpsons Grandpa Simpson]], Brian's actions in that episode were pretty heinous. He pretty blatantly decided to propose in order to spite his family's prejudices, and though he apologized for cheating on her, he phrased it in a way that made it seem as though it was a good thing because it proved to him that SHE wasn't too old for him. DethroningMomentOfSuck from both sides of the argument.
**Perhaps the worst part of this episode was the writing within it. The older woman in question is screamed at by Peter, who grabs her shirt and starts demanding her age, sending her off in tears. The family seems UTTERLY DEVOTED to destroying Brian's love life. From the perspective of one who has worked very hard for his love life, I would ''beat my own kin'' if they did that. So, Brian does a good thing, comforts her, makes her feel loved and beautiful. It's amazing, maybe Brian does have a soul. Besides, age difference isn't that bad - Brian goes back and forth between 49 and 7, so hey, whatever. So, moving on from that. The woman is actually a fairly likable character. Well, we can't have that in a one shot, can we? So, in the fastest fucking case of {{Flanderization}} I've ever seen, this woman goes from being fairly on top of things and even somewhat modern to basically 80 in mannerisms and speech processes. My mother is 50. She's not talking in 1930s lingo. This is placed in to make her unsympathetic. Oh, and let's not forget the complete and utter CriticalResearchFailure - a picture is shown of the woman as a young child with her mother. Brian picks it up and comments "Huh... there's not enough stars on this flag!" in a nervous tone, implying she was born before Alaska and Hawaii were made states (1959). The woman is 50 (the episode first aired in 2009). If she's 50...and the picture shows her as a young, bipedal child with her mother (see, at least two years old, probably more)... then there WERE 50 stars on the flag...hmm. Thanks guys. I confirmed the Alaska/Hawaii thing in two minutes on TheOtherWiki. [[SarcasmMode I'm GLAD you can do the same]].
***Consider this: The entire family is ragging on her because she's "old." She's only fifty years old...In an earlier episode it was revealed that ''Peter'' is ''forty-two''. There's only eight years between them, ten between her and Lois! And ''that is what they call "old?!"''
***What's even more enraging is that Brian is about 49 in human years, which means that he's technically ''a year younger than her!'' Come ''on!''
*Lucy getting the ever-loving shit kicked out of her in "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag?" You know, I know she screwed with Charlie a lot back in ''{{Peanuts}}'' but nothing she did could you use to justify her getting kicked the crap out of her. Especially since she's a child, to make matters worse Peter actually brings up the therapy shtick she used as another reason to kick her. I dunno, maybe it's just me because I liked Lucy and don't like the concept of children being hurt... let alone a small 8-Year Old Girl all brought about [[RoadHouse a Patrick Swayze movie]] and Seth paying homage to him. Thanks Seth, I'm pretty sure Patrick would've wanted to be remembered for inspiring some idiot to beat up children.
**Not having seen the scene in particular, it sounds like a literal curb stomping, which is bad enough, but the fact that they did the same joke years before, only using Louis instead of Charlie Brown, just makes it worse. ''RobotChicken'' did something similar, but wasn't so bad, because it was so cartoonish, you could laugh at it.
**They did this joke already in ''Lethal Weapons'' (season 2), but much milder and to much better effect: Lois, in a martial arts training montage, runs to kick a football held by Lucy. The football gets yanked, Lois falls out of frame, then runs back to roundhouse Lucy, who cries. That's exactly the right amount of justice via cartoon violence that what Lucy did deserve. They ''knew'' how to do this joke right already, but have totally forgotten it since the pre-resurrection era.
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[[folder:'''Other Episodes''']]
*Hey, [=MacFarlane=], we fucking get it, you hate Jews. Enough already, okay? Really seriously getting a little sick of how much we need to hear about how much you hate Jews. Honest. Don't really need to hear Stewie smarming right at the camera about how God will kick the Jews' ass for killing Jesus. Wow. Fucking seriously, we're going to go with that bit? Really? From Stewie, not from Peter, we're really going to go with "Jews killed Christ."
**But no seriously, [=MacFarlane=] averages one Jew joke per episode. The only ethnicity he goes after as much or more are the Hispanics. Seriously, fucking enough, kk.
** Several of the writers, producers and voice actors for the show are Jewish. It's more likely to be SelfDepreciatingHumour than anti-semitism, something which American Jews are hardly alien to.
*In one episode, Jesus himself (mind you a couple of episodes before said that God and Jesus didn't exist) said that all religion was crap, and surprise, Brian agrees.
**I think that part of the episode was a response to complaints of how Brian could be an atheist when he's met God and Jesus. Rather than a clever or thoughtful explanation of how Brian could maintain his atheism, Mark Hentemenn instead has Jesus say that all religion is crap because Brian can't possibly be wrong. EVER. That's right, Brian's now officially a BlackHoleSue and the universe bends to his will. Of course that doesn't explain how Jesus has superpowers but I'm sure we'll get another episode where that's explained to the most insulting extent possible.
***Also the fact that deism isn't religious, but also believes there is a God. That could have been used, but NOOOOO, the AuthorAvatar is ALWAYS right!
****Which makes no sense as Brian's won an award for his essay and was hired by the New Yorker on the strength of his writing and worked himself to the bone (to the point of taking the mayor hostage) to fight a discriminatory law. His novel is apparently pretty lousy and accidentally a remake of [[IronEagle an existing story]], but he does seem to have a history as a talented writer. Not to mention that he was being chewed out by a guy who has been almost explicitly shown to engage in date rape, statutory rape, incest and bestiality, has left many fatherless children, and also hits on his best friend's wife (and outright slept with his other one's). The rant would have made sense if it was Cleaveland or Joe making it, but Quagmire?
*****Also, one of Quagmire's points was that he has no illusions about who he is, what he wants, and what he's after, and doesn't particularly try to hide it, either. Brian, on the other hand...
****** There's a difference between admitting that you're shallow and admitting that you're a rapist.
******When it comes to creative writing, Brian just sucks, has no originality, his best work is plagiarism and his mediocre work is unintentional plagiarism.
*The [[MoralDissonance Fighting a discriminatory law by taking the mayor hostage]] one. I'm sorry; WHAT?!?!? I don't care who you are or what you believe; tell me, for the love of all things sane, you see the problem with this! Brian, trying to prevent a gay marriage ban, takes an elected official hostage at gun point; and all it takes is a talking to from Lois about he's, surprise surprise, right again to get him to give up.
**What ticks ''This'' Troper off even more? Lois believes that gays should have the right to be together, but is against gay marriage. This is a moderate position, and indeed may be the majority one in America. But what convinces her that this opinion is wrong, wrong, wrong? Seeing Brian performing his '''''ACT OF TERRORISM''''' on the news, because obviously "he feels really strongly about this." '''''What?!''''' News flash, idiot writers: lots of people "feel really strongly" about their opinions, that has exactly ''zero'' definitive correlation to whether or not those opinions are right! To put it another way, if ''Lois'' had taken the mayor hostage to ''prevent'' gay marriage, would Brian have been so [[EasyEvangelism easily converted]] to her side, given how "strongly" she apparently believed she was right?
**Probably the worst part of that episode, for This Troper? The rape joke about Elizabeth Smart. RapeAsComedy is really toeing the line, even though this show does it constantly. But calling out the name of an ''actual'' rape victim, specifically a ''child?'' '''FUCK YOU, ASSHOLES.''' You know, I hope her ''family'' wasn't watching or anything.
*[[NostalgiaCritic ...I like to think of myself as a semi-reasonable human being, as a man of the world, so to speak, with a view somewhat grounded in comedic reality and realization. That view has been challenged. By what, you may ask?]] ''FamilyGuy''. Sweet Jebus what went wrong? It was all going so well! Then it went like ''TheSimpsons'', and each successive season got worse and worse! I persevered, oh I sat through it! If the Beatles movies couldn't break me, then certainly ''Family Guy'' wouldn't. This last season looked so harmless too. Even though every episode seemed to be composed of pure suck, there were at least moments to make up for it. But this last one... Why? Dear merciful God in Heaven, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger WHY? WHY DID CONWAY TWITTY SING FOR FIVE WHOLE MINUTES?!]] I'm...I'm ashamed to admit it...but that was the first time I turned away from a T.V. show in disgust. It was as if all [[WorseThanItSounds my senses were being raped by this single episode.]] I am a broken man... Don't cry for me, I'm already dead.
**"I'm alive! But I'm so angry, somebody's gotta pay for this!" While bad, the line was [[RefugeInAudacity so absurd and out of nowhere that I got some laughs out of that scene.]]
*''Family Guy'' has a tendency of ripping things off, shot-by-shot, word-for-word. While this effect is intentional, it comes off as greatly annoying to more than one troper. To wit:
**For me, ''FamilyGuy's'' Dethroning Moment of Suck was the "Ding Fries Are Done" song, which was an absolutely verbatim ripoff of a radio bit/viral video that had long been circulating on the Internet.
**The recreation of "Somewhere That's Green" from 'LittleShopOfHorrors''. Too much goddamn fucking filler, no gags added or anything, and all for a tired joke involving Herbert, their worst character. And not to mention the fact that Herbert is in drag in that scene. No amount of BrainBleach can wipe away the image that is now burned in my retinas.
**Adding to THAT, the show lifted, verbatim, an old joke that had been around long before the show returned from cancellation. Not a joke from any show, a "did you hear the one..." joke. The cutaway gag where Peter, dressed like a doctor, informs a husband that his wife has become a vegetable, and that he'll have to spend all his life caring for her, then follows it with "Nah, I'm just kidding, she's dead". That's probably hilarious, had you not been told that joke less than a year before the show returned from cancellation... [[DudeNotFunny Good luck telling that joke, now, and not being accused of getting it from ''Family Guy''. "Kudos" to Seth MacFarlane and pals for ripping off a source material that can't be pinpointed. Not like that's stopped them, because moment-by-moment recreations are apparently hilarious.]]
***Then there is the episode in which Peter founds his own religion. Quagmire comes to him and tells him about all the dirty things he has done. When Peter explains to him that there is no point in telling him that as there is no confession in his religion, Quagmire responds, "Are you nuts? I'm telling this to ''everyone!''" Also an old joke. It appeared before that in the third ''BlueCollarComedyTour'' movie, told by JeffFoxworthy.
*Yeesh, Meg. Where exactly it started this troper can't pinpoint (and has no real desire to look anyway), but wherever it was that Meg went from [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] teenager with self-esteem issues to punching bag qualifies as the Dethroning Moment of Suck. The fact it was done because the writers allegedly didn't know how to write for a teenage female character just makes it even more stupid. Some examples: Shot full of poison darts? Check. Thrown out of a boat, caught by fisherman, and then verbally berated? Check. Blamed and punished for everything in the series? Check yet again. Being shot POINT BLANK in the head just for greeting her father? Check and mate. And, indeed, compared to everyone else, Meg is far more likable than anyone else in the series these days.
**Agreed. I could understand it as a ''RunningGag'' (because it does make me like Meg more, because seriously, the stuff she gets put through), but Jesus, "The Road to {{The Multiverse}}" is pretty much ''the'' Dethroning Moment for me when it comes to Meg. [[spoiler:''Every single dimension'' hates her for the exact same reason: that she's not pretty enough for them ([[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]] legs in Disneyverse, Bulldog in the Dogs Rule-verse, committing seppuku in the Japanverse for being ugly and being promptly farted on. Even in the universe where Brian and Stewie see her as a sex bomb. [[ThisIsSparta What. The. Hell.]] The worst part there is they show several other women in the background and a woman who's just finished having sex with Quagmire. None come close to as hot as hot Meg]]. The shallowness really just pisses me off.
***Oh, ''God'', yes. I thought things were looking up when Meg was shown to be apparently pretty sexy in one 'verse, but then we find out she's still considered hideous? God damn you, Wellesely. ''Damn you!''
****Really, the only thing funny about the whole Meg's-ugly concept anymore is the fact that in the show's entire run, she's been voiced by two ridiculously gorgeous actresses -— Lacey Chabert and Mila Kunis, for the uninformed.
****One of the Meg's Ugly jokes that really p.o.'d this troper was when Meg was in her underwear (Which I for one enjoyed) and said to BillClinton he could have her and he went eww, and this man was in a limo with like five women who were ''WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY'' fatter than Meg's supposed to be.
*****That scene was undoubtedly intended as a Monica Lewinsky joke. Which ''might'' have been mildly funny, if the episode had aired...oh, '''EIGHT YEARS EARLIER!''' Gee, writers—why don't you throw in some O.J. Simpson jokes while you're at it? Oh, ''wait....''
***The one I hated was when she is begging to get raped, because no other man would have her, and the horrified criminal runs away in disgust.
**[[Tropers/{{Jonn}} I]] sat down for that episode telling myself, "Okay, let's see how long before The Writers bash Christians." Four minutes later, I changed the channel, noted the time for the WriterOnBoard page, and have never watched a new ''Family Guy'' again.
*The MileyCyrus episode had one that was quite disturbing. Brian asks Stewie to reprogram Miley Cyrus into being Brian's sex slave and since she's a minor, Brian is a pedophile (oh God, they're gonna make him the new Herbert!). While that's disgusting enough on its own, Brian justifies this by saying that he's 7. This only makes things worse because now [[FridgeLogic every girl Brian has dated is now a pedophile]]. While he would normally be considered 49 technically (in dog years, since one dog year equals 7 human years), he himself said he's 7 and he can't have it both ways. Either he is 49 and going after a 17 year old (which even Stewie found unacceptable) or else he's 7 and going after a 17 year old (which somehow made everything okay?) and both ways are {{squick}}y.
**Her age isn't even the whole of it. They wanted to re-program her to have sex with Brian against her free will. She may have been a robot, but the implications of rape were definitely there - her being underage only makes an already really creepy moment worse.
***Take into mind that Brian is a dog....as in not a human...[[{{Squick}} how many girlfriends has he had?]]
***What about the scene from the ''HannahMontana'' show where Miley's dad (who is played by her real father) told her to put on her wig so he could have sex with her under the notion that Hannah is not his daughter? Seriously, how many incest jokes do they have to have?
**Don't forget that the Evil Monkey is really a pretty nice guy. More than a few people claimed that was a JumpTheShark moment.
*"Stew-roids". This episode was probably just to get fans of the new, gay, Stewie (yes, they exist) to watch it when it turns out that it was a "Meg episode". But ''that's'' not the problem. Then Connie dates Chris (long story) just to make him "cool". But '''that's''' not the problem. Then Chris breaks up with Connie. But '''''that's''''' not the problem. The problem? Well, Connie "teams up" with Meg to get back at Chris, so Meg gets Neil to show an embarrassing video of Chris to get him to be "not cool" anymore, then ''the freaking principal of the school'' just jumps out of nowhere and says that ''Connie'' is now "cool" again for "getting back at Chris". But...when did Connie do anything? Meg at least gave Neil the deal. Now, does this show run on StatusQuoIsGod or not? They could have done it better, MUCH better. Bonus negative points for making Meg look like a [[PsychoLesbian lesbian creep]] near the end. (Tropers/GreatPikminFan)
**What the principal said was that Connie was popular because the guy who dethroned her had himself been dethroned. Therefore, anything he did was considered irrelevant.
***And despite the title being "Stew-roids", the whole reason he got really buffed up was to get revenge on Susie for humiliating him at the party -- and yet at no point does he ever go back to challenge her and his muscles get totally wasted. They also wasted a good opportunity to have him beat the shit out of Brian, and yet by the end of the episode his muscles waste away, having accomplished nothing -- and Brian chases him out a window and he flies away using his flappy skin.
*Without even getting into the politics, what really got me was the episode where Stewie questions the obvious PlotHole of Brian, a 7-year-old dog, having a teenaged son. Brian's response is "If you don't like it, go on the Internet and complain" (yes, I am aware of the irony). Because obviously, no matter how crappy your own writing skills are, all it takes to defend yourself is to call your opponents nerds with no life. Way to bite the hand that feeds you writers. (Tropers/{{AmuroNT1}})
**There's nothing inherently wrong with intentionally invoking the RuleOfFunny, so long as you remember that the key word is "funny".
***That moment was when I (Tropers/MetalShadowX) declared the seventh season to be the absolute worst. I'm pretty lenient on the show (Even ignoring the stupider crap listed here), but that was uncalled for; I also didn't like the other episode scenes with this "joke", but that was definitely the worst joke yet. With season 8 having no Conway Twitty segment in sight, I'd say things are looking up.
***They do the same in the episode "I Dream of Jesus". "Ha, ha! He's on the internet, and I'm in college!" Considering college students are probably one of Family Guy's biggest markets, I'm surprised how few people seem to have noticed the huge TakeThat against the target audience.
*In "Road to Germany" when Stewie sees the Nazi uniform has a [=McCain=]/Palin 08 tag on it. I don't hate this for political reasons, I hate this because this episode aired in OCTOBER of 2008. That joke would be relevant for one month and then it would seem off-putting. We know you guys are Democrats, and speaking as a Democrat I can say it makes the rest of us look terrible.
** The entire episode, really. [[DudeNotFunny It's all over the map.]]
*The episode where they travel to Texas. There's playing up stereotypes for humor, and there's presenting a direct critique of something. Both fine by themselves; ''they do not go well together''. Like bleach and ammonia. It's frightening that anyone out there is so bad at satire as to not know this; even moreso that a major network will still gladly pump the resulting cloud of toxic gas into people's homes.
** I think that this is a semi-stereotype at best. Being from Texas, I find few cowboy hat-wearing, rootin'-tootin', hicks. However, I imagine some Texans do indeed enjoy filling this stereotype while traveling to irritate other people. Sadly, it seems that quite a few non-Texans are surprised when they realize that not every Texan is a horse-wranglin', cattle-russlin', stereotype. Still, the other presumptions made by Seth and his crew are definitely below the belt.
**And then there's the pretense to get the Griffins to Texas: Stewie throws up in church after drinking too much wine and eating communion wafers, leading people to believe he's been possessed. So the ''whole town'' shows up to take Stewie away from his family to ''perform an exorcism'', and the Griffins '''leave Rhode Island'''. Never mind the fact that most church-sanctioned exorcisms are only for extreme cases -- the '''whole fucking town''' thinks that taking a child away from its family to perform a dangerous and potentially fatal religious practice based on a single instance of that child throwing up in church is '''A GOOD THING TO DO?!''' Oh, and let's not forget that while they're on the way to Texas, the Griffins learn that '''the police''' are looking for Stewie. Let me repeat that: '''the police are looking for a child because he may be possessed.''' Listen, I know it's just ''FamilyGuy'', and it's not meant to be intelligent entertainment on any level, but still... this qualifies as an Extreme DarthWiki/WallBanger in my opinion, and one of the absolute dumbest moments in television history.
***Also, considering that Stewie is like, an '''INFANT''', and infants vomit a lot, '''it makes even LESS SENSE''' that they would assume that he is possessed ''simply because he barfed'' '''AFTER EATING A LOT'''. WHAT ARE THESE MORONIC POLICEMEN ON?
***I also like that, despite the fact that the Griffins are stuck inside their house while it is surrounded by an angry mob, in the next scene they have somehow gotten into their car.
***Don't forget the fact that the Texans ''immediately'' try to execute Peter when he tells them he's retarded. Yes, Texas ''did'' execute a mentally retarded man, but he shot a cop. ''[[CriticalResearchFailure They don't try to kill retarded people for simply existing]]''.
**What annoyed me the most about the episode was Brian's short anti-Texas rant that was flirting with being a BigLippedAlligatorMoment where he notes that Texas is "A Red State Full of Right-Wing Nutjobs". Okay, [=MacFarlane=] or whoever the hell wrote this ep, I have one question for you: Have you NEVER heard of Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, or ANY OTHER GODDAMN URBAN SPRAWL IN TEXAS!? Seriously, there are some areas in Texas that are so Blue they make LA look Red. The only reason Texas is a Republican stronghold is because the suburbs around the cities tend to be more red as well as the large population nested in the Panhandle and the Guadelupe Mountains...
*"The Juice Is Loose": it was extremely dated (which they lamely tried to cover up in the intro), the jokes seemed to be stolen from a lame talk show circa 1993 and the ending was such a lame {{Shaggy Dog|Story}} moment. This is proof that if an episode can be dated BEFORE IT EVEN AIRS, it won't be long until the entire show become old and stale.
**I would like to point out that in two past episodes they made jokes that made O.J. innocent in the murder, including a news broadcast the real killer was found, and then all of a sudden he's deemed the murder again, talk about SeasonalRot.
*For [[DreadBaron me]] the final minutes of "Lois Kills Stewie" was the DMOS. The episode was (or so I thought) Stewie's final appearance, as his plans had finally succeeded. In a matter of minutes, we go from Stewie's "last hurrah" turns into a simulation. This was the breaking point, in my opinion.
**Still the [[strike: LampshadeHanging]], correction: the '''expected''' lampshade hanging with [[DontExplainTheJoke Brian and Stewie talking about how people would be disappointed]] [[ItGotWorse only made it worse]].
*[[Tropers/{{vampireklepto}} For me]], they started to get a bad omen watching Stewie's [[VillainSong over-the-top song about world domination]]. Ironic that part of the lyrics berated ''TheSimpsons'' for [[TakeThat not being funny anymore]], when ''Family Guy'' has managed it in fewer seasons. The main problem is watching the degeneration from actual jokes to just sex and violence (watch the chicken fights in order, they start getting a lot darker) and after watching "Love Blactually" with the most annoying, preachy, self-righteous Brian I think gives [[TheSimpsons Lisa Simpson]] a run for her money, I don't have high hopes of the rest of season 7.
*I stuck by Family Guy through the first 7 seasons broadcast in the UK. Then came "I dream of Jesus". Then I saw how dependent the show had become on cutaway or recurring unfunny gags drawn out so damn long, as well as all the political stuff Seth had seeped through lately. That one episode caused me to have enough of the entire show.
**Perhaps this Christian might be looking into this a bit to deeply, but what was up with their portrayal of Jesus as an immature brat in the last half of the episode? Where did that characterization come from at all? The first half of the episode played JesusWasWayCool fairly straight, then dropped it entirely for "immature celebrity" gags featuring Jesus. And in the end, the make Peter out to be more mature than Jesus; maybe it would have been more understandable (if not arrogant) if Brian was the one lecturing Jesus at the end... but ''[[RalphWiggum Peter]]''?
*My personal BerserkButton is the episode "Prick Up Your Ears", where the students at Meg's high school take abstinence pledges instead of being taught safe sex. Now, on one level I can agree with the basic {{Aesop}} that safe sex should be taught and condoms should be used...but what really turned this episode into a [=DMoS=] for me was the implication that if you deliberately choose not to have sex, there's something seriously wrong with you. [[RapeIsOkWhenItIsFemaleOnMale Apparently, according to Lois, rape is alright when it's used as a teaching tool to demonstrate to people why they shouldn't be abstinent.]] So if I, though the freedom of choice that the episode is supposed to promote, decide I don't want to have sex, it's alright for me to be raped as a means of "enlightening" me? Yikes.
**Especially the part about abstinence not being a "reasonable choice". That's like saying you can only either stay away from cigarettes your whole life or smoke 2 cartons every day, there is no in between.
*The one where Quagmire begins to rape [[TheSimpsons Marge]] and then she gives in is a particularly bad example. Matt Groening himself was pissed and chewed [=MacFarlane=] out. Eventually even [=MacFarlane=] admitted the joke was in really bad taste.
**For me, Quagmire crossed the MoralEventHorizon when he did that. Yeah guys, go ahead and show my favorite childhood characters get raped and killed. (Tropers/{{Emperordaein}})
***It gets worse. [[RapeIsLove Marge eventually GIVES IN]]. And after doing it with her, he kills the entire Simpsons family. [[ThisIsSparta WHAT. THE. FUCK.]] [[NoJustNo IS wrong with these people]]?! Some fans do take some solemn refuge in the thought that after Maggie's distinctive pacifier sucking is heard, there is a pause before the last gunshot is heard, which some fans like to interpret as Maggie taking the gun off him and doing him in. Would be bloody glorious if that actually happened, even if it wouldn't quite make up for the previous (appalling) joke.
***In my opinion, one of the worst DarthWiki/{{wall banger}}s about that whole segment was that it could have actually made for a decent joke/sight gag - if they cut it off right before it went straight into DudeNotFunny with the aforementioned cold-blooded murder (or, if you prefer, [[RapeIsLove Marge giving in]]).
**The biggest wallbanger comes in the DVD commentary for the episode where [=MacFarlene=] goes off on a long, unfunny tangent in which he goes on a long, whiny tirade about the joke being cut for syndication, insisting it's some sort of conspiracy perpetrated by Fox because he insulted their beloved cash cow (as opposed to the fact that it was a tasteless joke involving rape, murder and infanticide) then goes on to say the joke was justified because the Simpsons had already made several (Minor, mostly in good will) jokes at Family Guy's expense.
* My. God. Even after giving up on this show forever IT STILL MANAGES TO DISAPPOINT ME. On the 61st Emmys (2009) ''Family Guy'' did a segment for the show. Can you guess what they did? Have the family argue who's going to win? Have Peter meet the nominees? Do something funny? Nope. They repeated a joke. Which joke? THE ONE THAT HAS STEWIE BEATING UP BRIAN. THE EXACT SAME JOKE. The only thing they did change was the lines. And in turn, MADE THE FACT THAT STEWIE BEATS UP BRIAN MAKE NO SENSE. Any you know what, people laughed. TV's finest writers, actors, and other people laughing at this sick excuse for a joke. I died a little inside.
*What's even more stunning than "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" is "420", where Brian basically serves as a mouthpiece for pro-pot legalization propaganda, from conspiracy theories to all the supposed wonderful benefits that society receives once it's done. Not once does the episode really suggest that anything bad might happen as a result of wide-spread pot use, and the status quo is restored purely as a result of one man's greed.
** ''[[Tropers/LoneHoundoom I]] most certainly object to jokes implying that you can only enjoy [[DoctorWho Doctor]] [[HePannedItNowHeSucks Who]] if you're high.'' Not cool, man, not cool.
* [[Tropers/{{Demetrios}} I]] pretty much stopped watching the show after the episode "Family Goy". Why, you may ask? I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]].
**Bravo, Mark. You took one of the most chilling and disturbing scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' and played it for laughs (a shirtless Peter casually attempts to shoot Lois with a sniper rifle, all while his cigarette sits on the balcony ledge (and since when did they have a balcony?)). The only way that could've made a more tasteless reference to the Holocaust would be by having Mort Goldman complain about how dirty a gas chamber is. Of course, Hentemenn will probably read this, and think that's a great idea...
*When Quagmire gets the cat, and the other guys get annoyed and decide to shave it. We see Peter "shaving" it, actually killing it, complete with shrieks of pain from the cat, and blood spurting with each cut, landing on Peter and everywhere else. Besides not being funny in any conceivable way, this drags Peter's character and intelligence to depths never imagined, and crossed the MoralEventHorizon. The eventual payoff at the end of the episode reinforces these new lows.
**And it is even worse when you (miraculously) make it through to the end, where Quagmire is offering $200 dollars for the information of the whereabouts of his cat. Peter grabs the money out of Quagmire's hand and says he killed the cat in a very callous tone and walks off. Credits roll. '''WHAT!!!???'''
*The episode where they make fun of Carrot Top for his alleged over-reliance on props in order to be funny...because its not like ''FamilyGuy'' uses something way too much for the purpose of comedy.
*After watching a scene where Peter listed "all the brown people you can rape" as a benefit of joining the U.S. Navy in "Saving Private Brian", I swore myself off of ''Family Guy'' forever.
*When they started doing a rape or domestic violence joke at least, oh, once an episode if not more. LOL a woman is being horribly assaulted! I like dark humor, but there's a world of difference between say, Sarah Silverman's infamous bit in ''TheAristocrats'' and in ''Family Guy'' where there's no other joke besides...a woman being raped. Or horribly beaten. And Peter's "Oh get over it, it's a cartoon!" was particularly sickening cause I'm even more offended by the laziness and cowardice of that defense than I am the actual jokes themselves.
**"[[AquaMan You shouldn't have]] [[CompleteMonster led him on.]]" I first saw that gag along with a friend that had been a victim of sexual assault. I had voiced my concerns with her about my own disdain over how Meg's abuse was being played for laughs, having been a child abuse victim myself, but that ''AquaMan'' joke was the beginning of the end. Namely, the end of watching ''Family Guy'' ever again. We found that to be the turning point, sort of like CerebusSyndrome for being incredibly distasteful. You can't just flatly mirror real-life ignorant statements for laughs. Some hate later episodes for basically saying "THIS IS A JOKE", but we hated the series far before then, when they started saying "THIS IS SEXIST/RACIST/ETC." ''and playing this ignorance for laughs.'' Like, when ''KingOfTheHill'' is doing its usual thing, you're just like, "Ha ha, Bible-belt StrawmanPolitical conservative hijinks!" When ''FamilyGuy'' tries something similar, your reaction is more like, "Ha h--wait, incredibly offensive hijinks with a touch of TruthInTelevision? DudeNotFunny." It's hard to classify this under a definitive episode, but the ''AquaMan'' joke is definitely when I first started realizing just how badly these subjects were being handled.
* Next to ''DrawnTogether'', this is the animated show that '''defines''' NegativeContinuity, but when it comes to the characters' backgrounds, you used to look for a little consistency. For most of the show, Peter was the son of an Irish-Catholic, but discovered that one of his ancestors was a black man who was enslaved by his wife's family. And since that ancestor was renamed "Nate Griffin", it is logical to assume that Nate was from Peter's father's side of the family. Even "Untitled Griffin Family History" acknowledged Nate as a member of the family. But then, in one extremely stupid episode, we discover that not only was Francis Griffin '''NOT''' Peter's father, but Peter's father was a drunk living in Ireland. So Nate's outta the picture, unless the writers pulls out of their ass an explanation that Nate went over to Ireland for some reason (which until he does makes Nate a complete waste of time). And then comes ''"Padre de Familia"'' where it turns out that not is only Peter at least three-quarters Irish, but he was actually born from a failed abortion in Mexico. So now all of a sudden, Peter is now technically Mexican and is an illegal. [[DidNotDoTheResearch Putting aside that not only do immigration laws NOT work that way]], having three biological kids and living your entire life in America would at least not make him an illegal. And he has to work with migrant workers on his father-in-law's mansion because he want to get in touch with his non-existent roots, only for a SnapBack at the end. I won't get into detail about Lois' family's changes. For the love of God ([[StrawAtheist oh, wait...]]) guys, why do you feel the need to change what little you had established?
** In ''Family Guy'', immigration laws (like everything else) work the way that would most effectively create an {{anvilicious}} [[StrawmanPolitical strawman conservative]].
* The episode "Business Guy". The episode didn't exactly do or say anything offensive but it suffered from major plot holes, poor writing, an arbitrary resolution, and had only a few mediocre jokes. This isn't the offensive episode that ruins a show, this is the mediocre episode that makes people realize a show has run out of steam. Peter takes over Carter Pewterschmidt's company after a strip club sequence, whereupon the episode meanders along for 20 minutes (with a mediocre Quagmire joke in it) then tries to use a ''ScoobyDoo'' reference that ''Scooby Doo'' fans are sick of.
* I know it's ''Family Guy'', and it lives to be offensive, but is anyone else starting to notice that the show has a bit of a fixation on Jewish stereotypes and antisemitic gags? We have Peter reenacting scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' for laughs, an entire segment consisting of Mort Goldman coming up with dozens of ways to call Jews cheap.
** Here's something strange worth noting-- when Mort Goldman would originally appear, his large "weakling" personality was the source of comedy from him. Probably three years later after the show returned in 2005, jokes about him started to focus on his being a Jew. I am getting such a bad vibe from that shift in humor.
** Honestly, it goes beyond antisemitic jokes. There is a ton of casual racism that's just played out for laughs, especially in regard to blacks. The first few times I noticed it was from Brian which, alright, fine; Brian's a staunch progressive with a hidden, slightly racist streak inherited from his father. But then the jokes started coming from Stewie as well. And then every other character. I know the entire cast has been more or less [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into complete jackasses but when the racist jokes come so often and from every character, it starts to seem like maybe [[WriterOnBoard the writers have some issues]].
* Is it just me or has there been a lot of Robin Williams bashing lately? The cutaway in "[=McStroke=]" was lame enough, but then in "Baby Not On Board" a cutaway showed the kids in ''PatchAdams'' killing themselves over Robin's jokes (Something ''MadMagazine'' [[ItsBeenDone already did a decade earlier!]]), "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag" had ''WhatDreamsMayCome'' as one of the [=DVDs=] no one wanted to buy, and most recently in "Big Man On Hippocamus" there was a lame cutaway gag where the joke basically is "Robin isn't funny anymore". Right. [[SarcasmMode Because antisemitism, misogyny, and three minutes of Conway Twitty singing are much funnier than]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTAcw9puvY this]]. And don't think I'm complaining about all this because I'm a butthurt Robin fangirl. I'm complaining because these {{Take That}}s are unoriginal and not clever at all. My only consolation is that they haven't done a {{Gorn}}-filled animated snuff film ala ''{{Futurama}}''... yet. I wouldn't put it past them though.
* The second ''StarWars'' parody managed to be [[SoOkayItsAverage surprisingly alright]], its main flaw coming from missing out on the chance to make jokes (Missed Moment Of Funny?). The abortion joke, however, was [[DudeNotFunny just tasteless]].
* In the episode "Extra-Large Medium," the first gag of the show is Peter skating around in circles shouting "StarlightExpress" over and over. Apparently just [[ShallowParody saying the name of the thing you're making fun of]] counts as a joke now. Taking a page out of the ''SeltzerAndFriedberg'' book of comedy?
** The entire episode is a slap in the face to [[SarahPalin a certain politician]]. Subtle political satire is good, but this is just pathetic. The whole concept of the plot is mean-spirited and completely unnecessary. Said politician understandably criticized the episode for taking shots at someone who was supposed to be miles away from political crossfire. In response the actor who portrayed the character in question proceeded to defend her position and attack the politician for being hyper-sensitive and treating her son poorly. But here's the punchline-Seth backs her up. Not surprising that the actor would defend her own character (she was paid to voluntarily act, mind you), and proceed to explain that the attack was on the politician, not the child, which is not only still in poor taste, but is also a terrible excuse. Not to mention, more unlikely than an episode without an anti-Chrstian/Republican undertone. Her whole "get a sense of humor" is about as weak of an argument as they come. I dare that actor to publicly tell that to every single parent with a Downs Syndrome child, or someone who actually has the syndrome. Just think about it.
* Did anyone else {{facepalm}} after watching Lois make fun of Brian for dating an idiot in ''Whistle While Your Wife Works''? Especially since said idiot was only about as dumb Lois's husband, but much nicer, hotter and more infinitely more mentally stable and emotionally mature?
** Not just that Jillian is a much better companion than Peter, but considering that Lois knows that Brian has always loved her (Lois) since ''Brian in Love'' in Season 2 (and re-iterated in ''Play It Again, Brian''), it was downright cruel for her to mock Brian for his romantic choices. The guy is trying to preserve his friendships with you and your husband, and your marriage, by moving on and looking for someone else, and you throw it back in his face?!
* For me, another DMOS has to be what they did with Connie's character. Originally she was just the popular [[TheLibby Libby]] character who would make fun of Meg for her efforts to try to fit in with the popular kids. But nowadays she goes out her way to tease Meg even if Meg is just minding her own business, and even though Meg honestly wanted to be friends with Connie in the past. It just was fucking cruel in the "Stew-Roids" episode where Meg shows Connie the cuts she deliberately gave herself over the years as a result of Connie's cruel treatment of her when Connie asked Meg for help to make Chris "uncool". Because in later episodes if anything even after seeing how badly Meg has been hurt by her bullying (and how Meg cuts herself as a result of it) she ''still'' treats Meg like shit, if not more so.
* Ugh, the episode ''Baby Not On Board'', we all knew Peter is an idiot but at least he has some plausible reasons for it. Here it just...I don't have the words for it but man I know I couldn't be the only person who wanted to punch out Peter for his mind blowing stupidity. But no, NO, that's not the worst of it. After all the crap he puts his family through, Lois finally blows up at him for it. And then...feels ashamed when Peter ''rebuffs'' her for it? WHAT?! No! Nononononono. {{Rule of Funny}} or not, I can't give this show that one. There are just some {{Karma Houdini}} moments I can't forgive.
** [[Tropers/UberCream Someone]] should probably elaborate for those who are curious: Lois yells at him, and Peter responds with the speech John Candy delivers in ''PlanesTrainsAndAutomobiles''. Yes, the entire speech-- almost word for word. And Lois immediately forgives him.
*** And don't forget they end it by [[DontExplainTheJoke explaining the joke]] with Chris going 'haa, movie reference'. Just in case ya didn't get it. DID YA GET IT?! He's stealing a monologue word-for-word from an infinitely better and funnier movie!...''{{Futurama}}'' can't return fast enough in [[Tropers/TheDogSage my]] opinion.
* For me, the Dethroner came in ''Padre de Familia,'' when, in a cutaway gag, it's revealed Peter didn't even know what 9/11 was until months after...he walked in, saw Lois watching the coverage with tears in her eyes, and he ''laughs and says it must be a woman pilot.'' [[DudeNotFunny THAT'S NOT F*CKING FUNNY!]]
** You'd think [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] would hold more respect for the victims of 9/11, considering he was almost one of them.
***Objection, [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] did not write that episode. Let's give the guy some credit, and assume he didn't read the script until after. But, yeah...that joke should have been vetoed quick.
*** Overruled. He voices two of the main characters; of course he read the script beforehand.
* For me, the DMOS showed up in the episode "No Chris Left Behind" when the family went to see the Nutcracker and Stewie turned to Meg and said "You know Meg, female ballet dancers are famous for anorexia and bulimia, and uh...seems to work out for them. So, hintidy hint hint." Um...ok I know Meg bashing is a RunningGag for this show but that wasn't even funny. Heck the first time I saw that part in the episode I felt disgusted. In part because I've had anorexia myself in the past, and looking back on it I can only hope that I don't ever go down that road again. Telling Meg, who was just minding her own business, that she should develop an eating disorder...could he have acted any more like a unlikeable {{jerkass}}? Oh, and that's not the first time...he also deliberately picked at Jillian's issues with her weight and the knowledge that she has bulimia in order to get her to throw up all so he could take one of her teeth to give to the tooth fairy. And Jillian has always been genuinely nice to Stewie! Oh, and basically just the fact that Stewie was getting his daily lulz out of something as potentially life-threatening as having an eating disorder.
** That was very off putting to me as well. Another thing about the situation with Jillian's eating disorder that upset me was Brian's way of dealing with it. His girlfriend is causing serious harm to herself, but Brian doesn't do anything to help her because it makes her look "so hot" to him. What a selfish jackass.
* I think we should start listing all the worst {{Flanderization}} moments that have degraded Lois from a [[MamaBear loving mother and wife]] to a abusive shrew:
** "Go Stewie Go" had Lois trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, giving the [[DarthWiki/WallBanger wall banging]] excuse that Meg's boyfriend was trying to "rape" her when Meg caught them in the act, and then having the gall to insist that she could easily steal him away from her daughter if she wanted to during her "apology". Wasn't this [[CompleteMonster repulsive]] woman a mother?
** "Peter-assment" was an alright episode, as it made Peter out to be a much nicer guy than most episodes do (even counting him deciding to assault his boss), however, it finished off Lois as a likeable character for me...namely "It doesn't count as sexual harrasment if it's a woman on a man"...so let me get this straight. Men don't care if someone touches them if it's a woman, because we enjoy it no matter what, even if we really can't stand the person, and we are already deeply devoted to the woman we love? And because of that, it doesn't count as sexual harrasment? Coupled with her just ignoring the fact that Meg was, in fact, sexually harrased by a teacher...for god's sake, I never wanted a character to be permanently killed off so much.
*** I'd say it's worse than that: some have noticed that Meg isn't getting as much abuse this season as before (maybe someone's been reading this page). This was, in a way, the case here, but the conversation was so obviously meant to set up either Peter or Lois laughing at and insulting Meg that it was as if the writers figured that if they can't abuse Meg, they're not going to try to write for her.
*** Oh, Lois had an even ''worse'' moment in that episode! When Peter's boss called him to harass him over the phone, Peter begs Lois to tell her (his boss) he's not home. Lois calls him a baby, then gets back on the phone and says "Peter's in the shower...touching himself to your picture." All said with a smile on her face. So Peter has no choice but to take the call. ''What the fucking hell, woman?!''
**** The level of general CharacterDerailment is at the point of no return: I was aware that what Lois did was actually quite heinous, but I just couldn't feel bad about it. Considering that the last time Peter accused someone of sexual assault was his '''doctor''' for a '''digital rectal exam''', it was impossible for me to feel empathy for him.
***** One must remember in that episode, when Peter walked in the kitchen looking traumatised, Lois asks what's wrong, to which Peter says, "I was raped." Though it's true that Peter wasn't raped, one MUST remember that Lois's first reaction to this statement is that she '''LAUGHS!''' WTF Lois?!?
*** There's also the massive gap in logic that Lois doesn't seem to care that another woman is trying to seduce her husband.
** Lois basically telling Meg that she should kill herself in the episode "Stew-Roids". At one point in the episode Lois attempted to comfort Meg who was ''denied the right to attend a party Chris was holding at their own house''. However, Lois gives up trying to comfort Meg after 45 minutes, gives her a Sylvia Plath novel, a bottle of Ambien and leaves her to her misery, saying "whatever happens, happens." All because she couldn't be bothered to spend any more of her precious time on Meg. That moment pretty much made Lois out to be the ultimate [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] in my eyes.
** In the episode "Peter's Daughter" when Meg thinks she's pregnant, she refuses to have an abortion. Lois suggests Meg consider drinking and smoking a lot to cause a miscarriage, but not to "wimp out halfway through", because Lois ended up with Chris.
*** Not to mention when Peter's actions put Meg in a coma Peter starts to feel bad and rethink how he's been treating Meg. And what does Lois tell Peter when he says he feels like he never treated Meg as well as he should have? "Oh, don't be too hard on yourself, Peter. We all do things that we're not proud of." It's just the idea that she basically doesn't think the fact that Peter put Meg into a coma is that big of a deal. [[BerserkButton F*ck THAT! It IS a big f*cking deal!]]
* The episode that consisted of Brian getting a pilot published which was then butchered by TV execs with a subplot of Stewie suffering a severe head injury and Chris and Meg have to cover it up while he's unconscious. The jokes ranged from mediocre to DudeNotFunny. I was horrified that they tried to cover up Stewie's injury by throwing him under the car while it was pulling out, and the incest joke that was included in Brian's butchered show was disgusting.
** It's completely understandable to have a subplot where a character gets knocked out and the others pretend he's okay, but when it's an ''infant'' that's knocked out, and the family shows callous disregard of the injury to the point of negligence ([[NauseaFuel maggots growing on exposed brain matter, a goddamn raccoon gnawing at the wound]]), it just goes from being in bad taste to becoming completely, unrepentantly horrible.
** I would like to to point out that was Peter who threw Stewie under that car, because he wanted to make Lois think she was behind Stewie's injury for no good reason and and that Meg was going to take Stewie to hospital but Peter stopped. This leads to another example of Lois' [[CharacterDerailment character derailment]] when she immediately suggests a cover-up, just as Peter had been doing.
* The episode where Brian got angry over the Army being allowed to try and recruit at Meg and Chris's high school was it for me. I'd had enough of him at that point.
* Peter shooting the Native American girl (who was about to be ''[[RapeAsComedy raped]]'' no less) in "April In Quahog". Might as well rename the show to ''Misogyny Guy'' at this point.
** There's also when it's implied Meg strangled a cat to death. Seriously, '''[[CharacterDerailment Meg???]]''' Great, now she's the ''FamilyGuy'' equivalent of [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Evil Manga Kaworu]].
* The episode "Dog Gone". It was pretty much just scenes of dogs getting mutilated and killed horribly, paired with an animal rights {{aesop}}. It also shows that Brian's family would love to kill and eat him to see what he tastes like, but after hearing (falsely) that he died, they still manage to be sad about it. That was the episode that ruined the rest of the series for me.
** I seriously couldn't enjoy any part of that episode. Also, I found it weird that at the town meeting, Brian was demanding that everyone stop eating meat, even though he's a dog ... an animal that is, by nature, carnivorous. Even today, a dog's diet consists mainly of meat or meat based products and Brian's always been shown eating meat throughout the series, so from where did this come?
* This may not qualify, since it was ''technically'' on ''TheClevelandShow'', but it was a crossover episode, and the [=DMoS=] moments apply to ''Family Guy'' characters. So in this episode, Cleveland finds out that his ex-wife Loretta had died, and he doesn't know why he is so sad about it, considering that he hated her in every way possible. This seems like a decent emotional plot to an episode, except for the cause of death. Quagmire travels down to Cleveland's new (old) town to tell Cleveland that [[KarmaHoudini Peter]] had accidentally dropped a T-Rex skeleton (don't ask) on Cleveland's house from Family Guy, where Loretta was living. She was in the bathtub and fell out of the house in that silly way Cleveland did a lot, except she broke her neck when the tub hit the ground. Instead of calling an ambulance, Peter stood there and laughed at her "gross boobs." This was a horrible thing to do, even for Peter.
** Oh, AND Quagmire took Loretta's dead body, put it in a French Maid costume, and then ''had sex with it'' before driving it to Cleveland's for a proper burial.
* At the end of the episode ''FOX-y Lady'', Lois reveals that she no longer works for FOX, with no explanation given to how or why, then she gives a piss poor [[LampshadeHanging excuse]] that [[ViewersAreMorons no one cares]], to make up for the writers' inability to properly end the episode. As a writer, it's your job to atleast [[HandWave attempt]] to write a proper ending.
*The 150th episode begins with another Brian and Stewie episode. Brian eats Stewie's poo. And washes it down with Stewie's puke. Then wipes Stewie with his tongue. {{Squick}} does not even begin to describe it.
**For me, it was Brian trying to pierce Stewie's ear, and getting the pin lodged inside his ear canal and getting it stuck...I mean, ''my GOD''.
**At the end of the episode Brian appears to say "I hope you enjoyed this very special episode." This merely served as adding insult to injury.
** There was also the incredibly hamfisted character drama between Stewie and Brian, especially Brian being suicidal which comes out of nowhere and is done in the most eye rollingly bad fashion imaginable. And then afterwards Brian and Stewie proclaim that they're best friends and they love each other...which makes no sense when just a few minutes earlier, Stewie made Brian eat his poop and outright said he did it just to see if he could get Brian to do it.
** I was excited to hear that the episode was supposed to have no random cutaway scenes. I wanted to see if Family Guy would be able to stand on its own without them, and boy was I not surprised. It was a 45 minute long {{bottle episode}}, taking place entirely in a bank vault. The other fifteen minutes was just old/unaired footage. Cheapest milestone event EVER.
** The episode did not even contain humor, nor make an attempt to. In a comedy show, they didn't even try to do anything funny, or even very entertaining.
** It was like they were just trying to see if they could piss off everyone watching the show...
** Considering the episode upped Brian's Sueness to previously unheard levels, brought Stewie IMMENSELY OOC, focused it solely on those two, I have a feeling it was more of a {{take that}} to everyone who complained.
**The only episode I turned off due to sheer boredom with it all, and I can't be the only one
* The episode "Quagmire's Dad" takes the Brian hate to a new level with the blatant, unprovoked one-sided "fight" between Brian and Quagmire (who I'd already lost respect for because of his TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Brian), not to mention the subsequent death threat.
** The entire plot of the episode was cringe worthy, it starts off with the portrayal of an EasySexChange that is PlayedForLaughs and {{Squick}} for the entirety of the episode. [[DidNotDoTheResearch The sex change is shown to not only change sex but do everything else as well.]] I believe the character in question even became shorter due to the operation as she is seen in heels the rest of the episode. No one in the episode sides with transsexuals, they just seem to have varying degrees of disgust regarding the whole situation. Quagmire admitting he just wants his dad to be happy is the closest thing. To top it all of, there wasn't even a real ending, Brain and Quagmire fight and then Brain says "I fucked your dad". No resolution, No {{Aesop}}, just "Hey look! Isn't this gross?"
** This episode gets frickin' worse: Lois and Peter. I'm perfectly fine with Peter being an insensitive douche but Lois is Brian's friend. I mean I know his plots are boring but they totally treated him like garbage and chased him out and then laughed and laughed about how he was dating a transsexual instead of breaking it to him gently. Peter maybe but not Lois. [[DudeNotFunny And especially not after an episode where we learn Brian was contemplating suicide. My god these writers have lost all sense of shame and decorum.]]
** This episode shows Brian's worst descent from [[OnlySaneMan the likable voice of reason]] to UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, and then enters outright {{jerkass}} territory towards the end of the episode. He starts out needy and harbours [[SmallNameBigEgo unhealthy levels of self-importance]] when Lois isn't on-board with his every move. Upon meeting Ida, he forces a mention of the pretentious-sounding seminar he's attended to strike up a conversation, and continues to label himself a "writer" despite recent episodes showing his [[GiftedlyBad woeful ineptitude]]. Brian makes out with Ida, and presumably reach fourth base in Ida's hotel room. Upon his return home, he's pissed that Lois is unable to show genuine interest in his seminar (did he ask anyone else what they'd be up to?), but is excited to mention the woman he met last night. Sure, Lois' reaction to the photo is [[CharacterDerailment uncharacteristically harsh]], but when Brian hears from Stewie about Quagmire's (as-yet-unnamed) father having undergone gender reassignment surgery, he reacts just as brutally (and silences [[ButtMonkey Meg]] when she ''does'' ask him about the seminar). Upon {{the reveal}}, Brian's disgust is a [[{{Understatement}} protracted]] VomitIndiscretionShot that was presumably meant by the writers to appear {{squick}}y, but if we could all take a moment to consider the long-running and [[ElephantInTheLivingRoom unignorable]] quirk in the series' run of {{interspecies romance}} Brian has encountered: Ida may have a vagina that has been surgically constructed from her inverted penis, but Brian is a freakin' ''DOG''! Brian has no right to be so vomit-inducingly disgusted (or require thorough scrubbing afterward) when he discovers that his partner was not born female, when he isn't even the same species as her. To top it, yelling to Quagmire, "I fucked your dad" confirms his unwarranted prejudice, and any remaining shred of sympathy dissolves hereon. [[SarcasmMode Way to go, Brian. A real mature retort there]].
*** Sounds like another fail parody of a 90's pop reference. The Crying Game at least was treated well by ''RobotChicken''.
** Along with all this, let's not forget that Brian is the victim here, and he didn't even do anything wrong. ''He didn't know that was Quagmire's father''. And Quagmire's righteous indignation and beating of Brian is especially hypocritical when you consider the fact that there are probably hundreds of people who'd be far more justified in beating '''him''' half to death for raping them and/or their loved ones. Or maybe one of those children he's fathered, but never sees, could give him a good beating.
*** Me personally, this was the episode where I gave up on Quagmire. Yes, I could agree with some of what he said in "Jerome is the New Black" (even IF it made Brian cry), but '''senselessly beating the crap out of somebody who had no idea of what he did was wrong, and didn't EVEN want to fight back (and was RUNNING AWAY IN FEAR)''' is... just... WOW. Seriously, if there a REASON for causing friction between Quagmire and Brian, ok, fine. ...but god damn, Seth...
**** The entire reason of Quagmire beating Brian makes no sense to me. Is it normal practice in {{Eagleland}} to attack your ugh... mother's boyfriend? It looks like they just thought it would be cool make Glenn beating Brian. But [[ConfusingMultipleNegatives it's not just not funny]] it's not even an attempt to be funny. It's just horrible.
* "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". If they were going for RefugeInAudacity, they failed, because [[SomebodyElsesProblem that is]] ''[[SomebodyElsesProblem exactly]]'' [[SomebodyElsesProblem how if works in]] RealLife. It's disturbing to watch and made me feel sick.
** The joke itself was pretty funny (Ha, Dr. Seuss wrote a book named "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". This makes no sense, why would someone write such book for children? Thats makes me laugh) ManateeGag just ruined it. It didn't add anything but disturbing context.
** [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi I]] was really shocked when I first witnessed that cutaway, so nowadays, I would change the channel for a few seconds. They could've thought of a less painful cutaway to fill 22 minutes?
* All the put downs towards women in "The Splendid Source" literally made this troper say, "screw you" to her television.
** Seconded. I had given up on Family Guy, but decided to give IT one more chance. I thought this episode was kind of funny. Then I got up to the point where Peter is in the room with the smartest people in the room, and smugly comments, "Not a lot of women." Well, this woman is smart enough to skip this show and its lazy, misogynistic writers.
* I happen to be politically conservative, and swore off ''Family Guy'' after about seven seasons' worth of straw man arguments. Stewie in a Nazi uniform with a "[=McCain=]/Palin" button? Check. Peter repeating "We should bomb Iraq" at the 9/11 memorial? Check. I literally threw my ''Family Guy'' DVDs away.
** Dude, Tropers/MacPhisto is a borderline '''MARXIST''', and even he is disgusted by Seth's endless left-wing strawmanship (gives the rest of us a bad name). I believe that Sarah Palin is the worst thing to happen to this country since it was founded, and even I think "comparing-Republicans-to-Nazis" is both in bad taste and incredibly stupid.
* "Patriot Games", home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and the infamous "Shipoopi" scene. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.
* The episode "Partial Terms of Endearment" (Unaired by FOX) made me so disappointed and disturbed. Not like I have anything to do with pro-life, but somehow they managed to convince me that probably they won't do abortion. I thought "Oh, it's like season finale, maybe they decided to add new character to family with hilarity and heartwarming ensuing. That must be great, [[TheScrappy even if it won't]] things can't get worse" [[StatusQuoIsGod but no]].
** What's even more offensive is the way Peter keeps trying to induce an abortion on Lois.
** It gets even worse when Peter, for the sole purpose of providing a counter argument, is persuaded to become pro life after a 30 second video clip, even by his standards of stupidity, that's too ridiculous. Especially when he went from trying to kill the baby several times to being against abortion in the event of incest, genetic disorders, and even rape. What the fuck?
*** This is made even worse, because abortion is a serious topic, and having the [[StrawmanPolitical dumbest character on the show become the anti abortion strawman]] for no reason is completely offensive to a serious issue.
* This is going to be controversal: In one episode, Peter gets shipwrecked and Brian becomes Lois' new husband. We see that Brian has sexual interest in Lois, but she refuses to do youknowwhat, even though he is a way better father than Peter. In the end, Lois is together with Peter again and NOW she tells Brian that sie did wanted to move their beds together, elaborating on what kinds of things she would have liked to do with him. Don't get me wrong, dog-on-woman is creepy and just gross. But do you really have to tease him with this? Goddammit, he got your daughter a date with a famous sports reporter (which had one of the few funny lines in this episode BTW)! It just feels like she was saying "Yeah, you were nice, but I don't feel like you should be rewarded for it. So FUCK YOU!" This scene makes me want to pay somebody to do a Flash animation in which Lois gets repeatedly stabbed with a rusty knife.
*"Go Stewie Go". The episode was basically justifying Lois and her [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Wallbanging]] motivation of trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, being so selfish to ignore the fact that this was apparently the first normal guy Meg has ever dated (which the episode also goes out of its way to exaggeratedly point this out). Does she take a moment to respect her daughter? (or her husband, [[NegativeContinuity but she's already cheated on him before]], [[SoYeah so...]]) No! She just continues on in her already {{Scrappy}} {{Flanderization}}. [[KarmaHoudini And she gets off the whole ordeal]] with giving a simple (and horrible) apology to Meg and Peter ([[SarcasmMode wait ''silly me'']] she didn't apologise to Peter, [[WallBanger '''she blamed him''' for the whole thing!]]).
**The A-plot of "Go Stewie Go", I understand they were trying to do "Tootsie", but seriously, all they did was replace "soap opera" with "kids' show." That's it, that's all it it was, other than the "band aid" gag, there was ZERO originality.
**Peter exhibiting incestuous attraction towards Meg in the episode "Go Stewie Go" was downright disgusting and made this troper rather uncomfortable, especially when he made Meg kiss him on the lips. Given that Peter is already filling in the verbal and physical abuse aspects of being an [[AbusiveParents abusive parent]] we can now add sexual abuse as well!
**But the ultimate [=DMoS=] of the episode was the bar scene. [[FridgeLogic Did Brian just try and hit on a baby girl?]] It may have been Stewie in drag, sure, but [[CompletelyMissingThePoint the point of the costume was to fool the producers that he was ''A ONE YEAR OLD GIRL!'']] Wouldn't Brian ''also'' think that this is [[{{Squick}} a ONE YEAR OLD's hand]] that he's trying to place on his ''[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean other tail?]]''
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[[folder:"Not all Dogs go to Heaven"]]

'''[[ThisIsGonnaSuck Well, here it is.]] [[MostTriumphantExample The worst offender of the worst offenders.]] [[SarcasmMode Enjoy.]]'''
* The episode can basically be described as an anti-theist ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth
to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.- SNES Master KI
** Not to mention the above quote of "her very existence proves no benevolent force exists" is said with a complete straight face. It's not meant as a joke. It's not meant as an insult to her. It's meant as a fact. Danny Smith is the one that is the creator of this. FridgeLogic applies and means that he's therefore a non-benevolent individual that hates everyone and everything. I'll be completely honest, I watch ''Moral Orel'' and laugh at its portrayal of 'straw Christians'. Mostly because I know that most of them aren't like that, and it's a small vocal minority. But
troper, if the people who make the show want to focus on them so and empower them, it's their choice to do so. But this show, it truly hurt me and hurt my feelings. But then I've noticed that ''Family Guy'' has become more and more about being a mouth piece for far-left liberal and atheist beliefs and less about being funny. Really, if you're going to have a show be a mouthpiece, stop saying it's just for jokes, and say what it is: [[SouthPark your own personal propaganda machine.]]
*** I always saw the Meg statement as an extension of The Writer's general misogyny, interpreting "Meg" as basically "any woman who isn't hot". In this way, the statement makes [[InsaneTrollLogic vaguely more sense]], but [[BeyondTheImpossible becomes so much more disgusting as a result]].
*** I think Brian shows his true colors here. He insults Meg for being ugly... this coming from a dog. I don't know what happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but Brian apparently doesn't care. What he sees as "ugly", is totally irrelevant to God because He created what He believes is actually good. It's also worth noting that Brian completely disregards Meg's Christian messages as a whole. Whether or not you agree with a religion, any at all really, a lot of them have genuinely good messages of not stealing, not lying, and so forth. Most people of any religious affiliation (including the non-religious) would probably attest to this. Furthermore, Brian comes off as a HUGE hypocrite when he criticizes Meg for being some "crazy, outspoken, conversion-happy Christian", but it turns out that it's okay for him to convert her into an atheist. [[SarcasmMode Man I love double standards.]]
** Oh thank you for seeing the exact same problem I saw. The argument isn't even an attempt at logic, it's just "If God existed, he would've made Meg pretty." To sum up, if God existed then the atheistic creator of the cartoon would've have drawn a single character in an attractive manner. Dear Krishna, Mr. [=MacFarlane=]! Does he actually consider that a realistic reason to not believe in a God? The strangest part is that Brian's statement is accepted as a reasonable argument and the entire book burning is put to a halt and all the townspeople, who had started behaving like Nazis after becoming more religious, go back to being normal.
*** Similar to how most atheists won't spend their entire time trying to prove that everyone who is religious is an idiot Nazi and most atheists
multiple entires are actually quite fine with people practicing whatever religion makes them happy. But Danny Smith is the exception that proves the rule.
**** As an atheist, I was still somehow offended. It was either going far beyond the realms of parody in terms of portraying Christians, or it was the whole bringing great shame
signed to atheists everywhere. It was just plain painful to watch.
***** The whole town converts back instantly too. Apparently Meg's existence is a pretty strong argument.
****** The really ridiculous thing is that in early seasons Brian was at least semi-religious. He had a Bible handy at times ("And the Lord said, Go Sox," in response to someone wondering what the bible verse people frequently referenced at ballgames was) and he was the only one who recognized the plagues when Peter made himself a false god, slapping Peter and declaring [[ThisIsSparta "God. Is. Pissed."]]
* That episode doesn't even pass the FridgeLogic test - God and Jesus are characters in the show, as is the Grim Reaper! Brian's venturing into FlatEarthAtheist territory saying that God doesn't exist in a universe where God can be found picking up women at the bar, all for the sake of being a mouthpiece. Also, as a liberal agnostic who used to like ''FamilyGuy'' for totally non-political reasons, I've just gotta comment that sharing his world views doesn't make the recent AuthorTract format any less preachy or condescending. The show just plain isn't funny anymore.
** Crap, at the end of the episode, it even showed that Brian's hypothesis that even though God doesn't exist (except that he does on the show), the universe is an amazing and wondrous place is wrong, as the universe was actually a molecule in the lamp on Adam West's nightstand.
** Wasn't there an episode where Meg became pretty and at the end of the episode it was concluded that being pretty wasn't good for her and she switched back to being ugly of her own free will? Which means that Meg choosing to not be pretty means there isn't a God because if there was a God he would've gone out of his way to interfere with her free will and force her to be attractive. HeadDesk, HeadDesk, HeadDesk.
* Not to mention that they managed to get the entire ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' cast to cameo and barely used them in the weakest guest appearance comedy yet on the show. I had all but given up on the show for a while, but being a TNG fan decided to sit for this one, my blood pressure steadily increasing as it became increasingly obvious that I was subjected effectively to a bait-and-switch (though I don't blame Fox for promoting the cameo, given what a train wreck the entire episode became).
** The first line of the episode implied that ''StarTrek'' convention-goers rarely see sunlight. Guess they wanted to pull out the fresh material right away.
* For the first half of the episode it seems to explicitly set up the moral that you shouldn't discriminate against someone for their faith or lack of one, or that maybe Meg just happened to take her religious belief a little too far... but nope! According to FamilyGuy, Christianity = BAD and Atheism = GOOD.
** That was
the same aesop they seemed to be setting up for troper the episode "Familiy Goy". If I remember correctly, it ended with Jesus saying "[[BrokenAesop Six to one, they're [all religions] all complete crap]]".
** Either that or he's going with the flow of the [[{{Anvilicious}} overly passionate]] young people who [[AcceptableTargets blame religion for
more recent one will be cut.
*Moments only, no "just
everything that's wrong with the Universe]]. Either way it's bad.
* Let's put it this way: this episode was so bad that ''even Seth'' had to eventually apologize for just how blatantly ''stupid'' this episode was in Jerome is the New Black (Quagmire's [[http://www.hulu.com/watch/111154/family-guy-quagmire-goes-off brutal tirade]] against Brian, that many consider Glen's CrowningMomentOfAwesome). This is the same man who approved "Prom Night Dumpster Baby" and yet ''THIS'' was the thing
he apologized for. Seriously, it's that bad.
** The worst part. The single worst part of all of this... is that at the end of the episode, where someone calls out Brian, FINALLY, someone calls his bullshit, he comes home crying...and Stewie comforts him and tells him it's okay and not to worry about it. Brian has always been Stewie's first target. Sure, there's some serious FoeYay, but he ALWAYS goes the hell after Brian. And he comforts him. Comforts him and removes that nagging doubt that he's not a complete and utter failure of a character. [[INeedAFreakingDrink Someone get me a beer...]]
* The biggest irony of this whole mess is that Brian's speech at the end of the episode was ''supposed'' to be his CrowningMomentOfAwesome. Instead it wound up here.
* One has to wonder what the point of this episode was: was it meant to turn Christians into atheists? Make atheists shun their friends and family if they believed in, well, ''anything?'' Were we supposed to ''agree'' with Brian and admit that the majority of Americans are evil idiots because they believe in something? WHAT. WAS. THE. POINT?
* The reason why Meg became a Christian in the first place was because her life was starting to ''really'' suck. In other words Danny Smith arrogantly assumed that the ''only reason'' religion exists is because peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then...never mind the fact that Brian's big argument that converts the whole town to atheism is "Peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then." So, um, the exact same thing except with atheism. Not much a difference, is it?
** It also implied that the only reason people believe there isn't a God is because people's lives suck. Not because atheism is what makes sense to some people or anything. Of course not. It simply must be that all atheists are what they are because the God they don't believe in is a jerk. This episode made this atheist want to scream.
* This atheist was extremely offended that the episode portrayed Christians as if they were total morons. This is not the 13th fucking century, very few theists are that radical; not all of them are going to try to convert you or run you out of town. Have some class.
* It didn't help that the only Christians they portrayed are the vocal, extreme minority. Yes, some Christians still practice book burning but the same logic can be applied to everything: some men cheat on their wives so does that make all men evil? No.
* ''Possibly'', Brian's argument is what Christians refer to as the "problem of pain": why would God, who is Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent, allow for abusive parents, rapists, mustard gas, war etc? (In RealLife, it's a highly contested issue within the Christian faith alone.) Brian's argument might've held ''some'' water if handled properly. Instead, it came out as: "Meg, a ''fictional character'' has a really crummy life; ergo a benevolent God cannot exist." This episode, it seems, was nothing more than a logic-free TakeThat not only at Christianity, but ''any'' type of faith in the unseen.
** I want to say that first off, I am a hardcore Christian. However, this is my biggest problem with most of the quotes on this page...I feel like we're all totally missing the point. Brian's argument wasn't so much "Meg is ugly, therefore, God can't exist," it was more "Meg, why do you believe/trust in a God that allows all of these horrible things to happen to you?" (Her family hating her, her friends making fun of her, etc...) I think Brian's argument makes a little more sense than we give it credit for, but at the same time, he doesn't fully understand the Christian faith either to make a statement like that...in any case, it still fits nicely on this page.
** Yeah that's what I figured, it didn't seem like he was calling Meg "ugly" or anything, to me it seemed more like he was commenting on that the fact that nearly EVERYBODY that makes eye contact with Meg considers her ugly and is repulsed by her(not to mention the way overrused gag of her being mistaken for a guy), and he uses that logic to convince her that god dosen't exist-and that was more then enough to convince her to believe Brian, and when you consider all the abuse she's gone through, Brian's argument would naturally make perfect sense to her. I didn't have the same hatred for this episode that most people do, but it STILL definitely went too far with the ridiculously over-the-top scene with Brian being demonized by everyone just for being an Atheist.
* In somewhat of a direction toward the FridgeLogic[=/=]WallBanger portion of this, the fact that Brian is an atheist was introduced and driven toward maddening levels, completely ignoring the fact that his atheism is a direct punch in the face of the admittedly inconsistent continuity anyway. Now to be fair, the dumb line about Meg being too ugly to allow a God to exist was said by an AuthorAvatar, Brian and the fact that he said something so insanely wall banging with a straight face may have been an attempt at making it funny. This didn't make it any less jarring at the fact that Brian apparently doesn't believe in God and Jesus after having ''seen them with his own eyes, '''spent an entire episode trying to convince Peter that he shouldn't try to take over for the real God''''', and on a less notable example been the victim of otherworldly/paranormal events in the past, such as his ''entire house being sucked into nothingness.'' So either the context of this episode is that the God that has been shown in the past in the show was written off as if he never existed just to make a point or one of Brian's head injuries throughout the series caused him to forget the fact that he's been ''confronted'' by God in the past.
* If we cut past all of Danny Smith's bad logic the moral of the episode was "If God exists then why does suffering exist?". The problem with that is that, at some point, nigh-everyone in a religious society thinks of this: we didn't need an entire episode just to hear the same question.
* Wait, Meg had just become a Christian in that episode. Last time I checked people who've just joined a new religion wouldn't be that good at defending it.
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[[folder:"Family Gay"]]
*The episode where Peter leaves his jobless housewife and three kids (one of which being a baby) because he suddenly turned gay. Yes, guys, we understand that it's okay to be gay, but that doesn't give you
*No contesting entries. This is subjective, the right to abandon all of your responsibilities without so much as a token conversation about child support. Hell, Lois even agrees that Peter didn't do entry is their opinion.
*No natter. As above,
anything wrong! He fucking did! He left your ass with three kids contesting an entry will be cut, and NO WAY TO SUPPORT THEM. HE DIDN'T EVEN WAIT FOR HER TO GET A JOB SO THAT HIS FAMILY (which he should still care somewhat about because, you know, gay people aren't amoral assholes) COULD SUPPORT THEMSELVES!! YES, THATS RIGHT PETER, GO AHEAD AND JUST &^!@#&*^!$&(@#*#!$YGHQSF!!!
**Considering that it was [[RalphWiggum Peter]], they were better off without him, which [[LampshadeHanging the episode hung a lantern on]]. It had good comedic value, but it shows that the writers failed once again at preaching political correctness in a DeadBabyComedy. If he had proved ''SouthPark'' right about it just being a GagSeries, [[{{Understatement}} this Article would be a lot shorter]].
**You forgot to mention the worst parts. Peter became test subject for genetic experiments because he couldn't afford to pay for the damages a horse he bought did, almost ruining the family. SoYeah, to ruin your family and then leave them without any kind of support just because you're now gay is the right thing to do, and if you dare to say otherwise, you're a homophobe. And the most shocking thing is that everybody was putting Peter's happiness before everything, despite Peter being the cause of all the problems. I wonder why there are still so many people who says that Peter is not a blatant AntiSue.
***Some of you seem to be forgetting about Lois's billionaire father. Peter didn't need to support her, because daddy would just pay the bills.
***Did anyone forget that he was injected with ''gay person DNA''?! Did fucking ''[[{{Sonichu}} Chris-Chan]]'' write this?
***Eh, Peter's just lucky he's the main character of ''Family Guy''. [[DesignatedHero At this point, in any other show, he'd be the villain.]] No really, he would be. Just paint his skin a disgusting shade of green, put a nasty-looking sword in his hands, and you've got yourself an honest-to-badness [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Great Unclean One]].
****At this time I'm reminded of "{{Superman}} At Earth's End", a comic where guns are used to solve all the problems, and then ends with an anti-gun message. Similarly, you can't have a pro-tolerance message in an episode that makes such egregious, un-ironic use of stereotypes. Things just work a certain way, and no amount of "comedy" can make up for that.
**Lois' line "I can't change your orientation, and it'd be wrong for me to try" absolutely made NO SENSE since they DID CHANGE Peter's orientation earlier. However, [[{{Anvilicious}} banging people's head with the idea that homosexuality is not a choice was more important]].
*I simply love how Stewie suddenly takes the stance of staunch christian conservative (or perhaps christians in general, considering the show) for the sake of a temporary AuthorTract.
**Not to mention that Stewie is gay according to the {{Word of God}}
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[[folder: "Road to the Multiverse"]]
*"Road to the Multiverse" is ten minutes of poop and fart jokes interlaced with a thin plot and several Meg-is-ugly jokes. Then, in the very end, Brian from an alternate universe wants to come back to the main universe even though he [[FridgeLogic would've already gotten the chance to stay when he traveled with his Stewie through the Multiverse and didn't take that opportunity]] only to walk off and be hit by a car. The car was so predictable and obvious and that there wasn't a single person who didn't see it coming. Worse yet, alternate Brian would've been an interesting plot for a future episode but no, they killed him off instantly, which made the last seven minutes of the show worthless.
**This is exactly why the end of the Disney segment in the episode is so bad; this show is just as anti-Semitic as Seth purports Disney to be. Yes, we all know it's ''Disney'', but don't fucking pretend that this show isn't as offensive as
anything that Disney puts out.
***If it was a shot at "Uncle Walt's" anti-semitism, it wasn't a very good one. If they had an animated Walt leading the charge to kill Mort, then that would have made more sense. But there wasn't, everything was ''all'' happy-scrappy until Mort showed up. The regular characters had designs reminiscent of various Disney characters (the latest being Meg's, based off of ''The Little Mermaid's'' Ursula, which came out waaayy long after Disney's death) and it gives off the impression that the Walt Disney Corporation as a whole hates Jews. And as for Family Guy not being anti-semitic? Well, let's see: the recurring Jewish character is Mort Goldman, who is pretty much a walking-talking personification of almost every Jewish stereotype known to man, his lesser seen family are pretty much his clones, and that when Peter once put up a "scare-Jew" (i.e. a scarecrow made up to look like AdolfHitler) to scare Mort away from the house so he wouldn't borrow anymore of the Griffens' stuff, Mort runs away screaming for everyone to protect Jon Stewart ("He's our most important Jew!") from the "reincarnated Hitler". So while Family Guy isn't anti-semitic per se, it does absolutely nothing to offset/subvert Jewish stereotypes. But yes, the Disney universe was a shitty joke, there is that too.
**** This troper actually ''loved'' the Disney universe segment and considers it the series' CrowningMomentOfAwesome. But, since [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] ''constantly'' makes that stupid Disney joke (Brian at the beginning of "Movin' Out, Brian's Song", the cutaway in some episode saying that Goofy goes to Hell for being involved with 9/11, etc.), I have to agree that the end of that segment was stupid. I was expecting a meta-joke about the Disney universe being too expensive to animate, and that would be why they had to leave. Not sure if that would have been better. Though, the end of that segment was not enough to make me not like that scene, "It's a Wonderful Day for Pie" and the Herbert part were still gold.
*** The thing is though, Walt Disney wasn't actually that racist, he was actually ''less racist'' than most people of his era. The reason him being anti-semetic became a popular belief was because of [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,295141,00.html a comment Brett Butler made on Letterman.]] Brett Butler's a psychotic drug addict, and was so addicted at the time that her show went through five producers in five years.
** I thought the whole Road to the Multiverse counts as a DethroningMomentOfSuck. You can literally put all the jokes in three categories. Bowel movements, Meg is ugly, and violence. Mayor [=McCheese=] gets shot, [[spoiler:alternate universe Brian gets hit by a car (predictable enough)]], John Hinkley (Reagan's attempted assassin) painted the Sistine Chapel, and Mort the Jew gets beat to death in the Disney universe.
** Wellesely Wild's anti-theism shines through again where he says Christianity holds back science here as well.
** What was really frustrating about it was the statement that without Christianity there would not have been the Dark ages. In reality, the biggest contributor to the Dark Ages was the power vacuum created by the fall of {{the Roman Empire}}, and it was largely the culture and technology brought back to Europe by the ''Crusades'' that ended them.
**Never mind the fact that Europe =/= the entire world. While Europe was enveloped in the Dark Ages, scientific advances still continued in other places like the Far East and the Islamic Empire (which reintroduced scientific and mathematic discoveries to Europe centuries after they had been lost there).
* When they went to the world where Japan won WW2. That joke was completely racist.
* This troper, a secular humanist, found the Christianity/Dark Ages joke in very bad taste.
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[[folder: "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag"]]
*The worst part of the Episode was when Brian dates an older woman was when showed the younger girl a video of himself in ''DieHard''. It wasn't funny, and it was just another use of LimitedAnimation. Considering that this is coming from ''Family Guy'', which has shown us four minutes of Conway Twitty singing with no animation ''at all'', this can be seen as an improvement.
**The episode where Brian got involved with an actual elderly woman. You know, someone who's actually OLD and not just above 21 years old. Even though that old lady died at the end of that episode, that was treated with a lot more respect and pathos then this episode saw fit to treat a woman who was, horrors of horrors, MORE THEN FORTY YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!
**The supposed {{Aesop}} of this episode was [[BrokenAesop broken beyond repair]]. Brian berates everyone for treating him poorly for dating an older woman, pointing out the hypocrisy of younger women dating older men and younger men dating older women. So, what happens? Again, the older woman tells Brian (who tells her he feels ''horrible'' for sleeping with another, younger, woman) that he's immature and that she's too good for him. Yes, according to the writers, it's not due to traditional sex roles, or {{double standard}}s, or traditional reasons that the idea of a man dating an older woman is frowned on. No, according to this episode, it's because men are immature. [[StreetFighter OF COURSE!]] I'm not sure which sex should be offended more...
*** Even though his family's reactions were jerkassy and his girlfriend seemed to suddenly and inexplicably turn into [[TheSimpsons Grandpa Simpson]], Brian's actions in that episode were pretty heinous. He pretty blatantly decided to propose in order to spite his family's prejudices, and though he apologized for cheating on her, he phrased it in a way that made it seem as though it was a good thing because it proved to him that SHE wasn't too old for him. DethroningMomentOfSuck from both sides of the argument.
**Perhaps the worst part of this episode was the writing within it. The older woman in question is screamed at by Peter, who grabs her shirt and starts demanding her age, sending her off in tears. The family seems UTTERLY DEVOTED to destroying Brian's love life. From the perspective of one who has worked very hard for his love life, I would ''beat my own kin'' if they did that. So, Brian does a good thing, comforts her, makes her feel loved and beautiful. It's amazing, maybe Brian does have a soul. Besides, age difference isn't that bad - Brian goes back and forth between 49 and 7, so hey, whatever. So, moving on from that. The woman is actually a fairly likable character. Well, we can't have that in a one shot, can we? So, in the fastest fucking case of {{Flanderization}} I've ever seen, this woman goes from being fairly on top of things and even somewhat modern to basically 80 in mannerisms and speech processes. My mother is 50. She's not talking in 1930s lingo. This is placed in to make her unsympathetic. Oh, and let's not forget the complete and utter CriticalResearchFailure - a picture is shown of the woman as a young child with her mother. Brian picks it up and comments "Huh... there's not enough stars on this flag!" in a nervous tone, implying she was born before Alaska and Hawaii were made states (1959). The woman is 50 (the episode first aired in 2009). If she's 50...and the picture shows her as a young, bipedal child with her mother (see, at least two years old, probably more)... then there WERE 50 stars on the flag...hmm. Thanks guys. I confirmed the Alaska/Hawaii thing in two minutes on TheOtherWiki. [[SarcasmMode I'm GLAD you can do the same]].
***Consider this: The entire family is ragging on her because she's "old." She's only fifty years old...In an earlier episode it was revealed that ''Peter'' is ''forty-two''. There's only eight years between them, ten between her and Lois! And ''that is what they call "old?!"''
***What's even more enraging is that Brian is about 49 in human years, which means that he's technically ''a year younger than her!'' Come ''on!''
*Lucy getting the ever-loving shit kicked out of her in "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag?" You know, I know she screwed with Charlie a lot back in ''{{Peanuts}}'' but nothing she did could you use to justify her getting kicked the crap out of her. Especially since she's a child, to make matters worse Peter actually brings up the therapy shtick she used as another reason to kick her. I dunno, maybe it's just me because I liked Lucy and don't like the concept of children being hurt... let alone a small 8-Year Old Girl all brought about [[RoadHouse a Patrick Swayze movie]] and Seth paying homage to him. Thanks Seth, I'm pretty sure Patrick would've wanted to be remembered for inspiring some idiot to beat up children.
**Not having seen the scene in particular, it sounds like a literal curb stomping, which is bad enough, but the fact that they did the same joke years before, only using Louis instead of Charlie Brown, just makes it worse. ''RobotChicken'' did something similar, but wasn't so bad, because it was so cartoonish, you could laugh at it.
**They did this joke already in ''Lethal Weapons'' (season 2), but much milder and to much better effect: Lois, in a martial arts training montage, runs to kick a football held by Lucy. The football gets yanked, Lois falls out of frame, then runs back to roundhouse Lucy, who cries. That's exactly the right amount of justice via cartoon violence that what Lucy did deserve. They ''knew'' how to do this joke right already, but have totally forgotten it since the pre-resurrection era.
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*Hey, [=MacFarlane=], we fucking get it, you hate Jews. Enough already, okay? Really seriously getting a little sick of how much we need to hear about how much you hate Jews. Honest. Don't really need to hear Stewie smarming right at the camera about how God will kick the Jews' ass for killing Jesus. Wow. Fucking seriously, we're going to go with that bit? Really? From Stewie, not from Peter, we're really going to go with "Jews killed Christ."
**But no seriously, [=MacFarlane=] averages one Jew joke per episode. The only ethnicity he goes after as much or more are the Hispanics. Seriously, fucking enough, kk.
** Several of the writers, producers and voice actors for the show are Jewish. It's more likely to be SelfDepreciatingHumour than anti-semitism, something which American Jews are hardly alien to.
*In one episode, Jesus himself (mind you a couple of episodes before said that God and Jesus didn't exist) said that all religion was crap, and surprise, Brian agrees.
**I think that part of the episode was a response to complaints of how Brian could be an atheist when he's met God and Jesus. Rather than a clever or thoughtful explanation of how Brian could maintain his atheism, Mark Hentemenn instead has Jesus say that all religion is crap because Brian can't possibly be wrong. EVER. That's right, Brian's now officially a BlackHoleSue and the universe bends to his will. Of course that doesn't explain how Jesus has superpowers but I'm sure we'll get another episode where that's explained to the most insulting extent possible.
***Also the fact that deism isn't religious, but also believes there is a God. That could have been used, but NOOOOO, the AuthorAvatar is ALWAYS right!
****Which makes no sense as Brian's won an award for his essay and was hired by the New Yorker on the strength of his writing and worked himself to the bone (to the point of taking the mayor hostage) to fight a discriminatory law. His novel is apparently pretty lousy and accidentally a remake of [[IronEagle an existing story]], but he does seem to have a history as a talented writer. Not to mention that he was being chewed out by a guy who has been almost explicitly shown to engage in date rape, statutory rape, incest and bestiality, has left many fatherless children, and also hits on his best friend's wife (and outright slept with his other one's). The rant would have made sense if it was Cleaveland or Joe making it, but Quagmire?
*****Also, one of Quagmire's points was that he has no illusions about who he is, what he wants, and what he's after, and doesn't particularly try to hide it, either. Brian, on the other hand...
****** There's a difference between admitting that you're shallow and admitting that you're a rapist.
******When it comes to creative writing, Brian just sucks, has no originality, his best work is plagiarism and his mediocre work is unintentional plagiarism.
*The [[MoralDissonance Fighting a discriminatory law by taking the mayor hostage]] one. I'm sorry; WHAT?!?!? I don't care who you are or what you believe; tell me, for the love of all things sane, you see the problem with this! Brian, trying to prevent a gay marriage ban, takes an elected official hostage at gun point; and all it takes is a talking to from Lois about he's, surprise surprise, right again to get him to give up.
**What ticks ''This'' Troper off even more? Lois believes that gays should have the right to be together, but is against gay marriage. This is a moderate position, and indeed may be the majority one in America. But what convinces her that this opinion is wrong, wrong, wrong? Seeing Brian performing his '''''ACT OF TERRORISM''''' on the news, because obviously "he feels really strongly about this." '''''What?!''''' News flash, idiot writers: lots of people "feel really strongly" about their opinions, that has exactly ''zero'' definitive correlation to whether or not those opinions are right! To put it another way, if ''Lois'' had taken the mayor hostage to ''prevent'' gay marriage, would Brian have been so [[EasyEvangelism easily converted]] to her side, given how "strongly" she apparently believed she was right?
**Probably the worst part of that episode, for This Troper? The rape joke about Elizabeth Smart. RapeAsComedy is really toeing the line, even though this show does it constantly. But calling out the name of an ''actual'' rape victim, specifically a ''child?'' '''FUCK YOU, ASSHOLES.''' You know, I hope her ''family'' wasn't watching or anything.
*[[NostalgiaCritic ...I like to think of myself as a semi-reasonable human being, as a man of the world, so to speak, with a view somewhat grounded in comedic reality and realization. That view has been challenged. By what, you may ask?]] ''FamilyGuy''. Sweet Jebus what went wrong? It was all going so well! Then it went like ''TheSimpsons'', and each successive season got worse and worse! I persevered, oh I sat through it! If the Beatles movies couldn't break me, then certainly ''Family Guy'' wouldn't. This last season looked so harmless too. Even though every episode seemed to be composed of pure suck, there were at least moments to make up for it. But this last one... Why? Dear merciful God in Heaven, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger WHY? WHY DID CONWAY TWITTY SING FOR FIVE WHOLE MINUTES?!]] I'm...I'm ashamed to admit it...but that was the first time I turned away from a T.V. show in disgust. It was as if all [[WorseThanItSounds my senses were being raped by this single episode.]] I am a broken man... Don't cry for me, I'm already dead.
**"I'm alive! But I'm so angry, somebody's gotta pay for this!" While bad, the line was [[RefugeInAudacity so absurd and out of nowhere that I got some laughs out of that scene.]]
*''Family Guy'' has a tendency of ripping things off, shot-by-shot, word-for-word. While this effect is intentional, it comes off as greatly annoying to more than one troper. To wit:
**For me, ''FamilyGuy's'' Dethroning Moment of Suck was the "Ding Fries Are Done" song, which was an absolutely verbatim ripoff of a radio bit/viral video that had long been circulating on the Internet.
**The recreation of "Somewhere That's Green" from 'LittleShopOfHorrors''. Too much goddamn fucking filler, no gags added or anything, and all for a tired joke involving Herbert, their worst character. And not to mention the fact that Herbert is in drag in that scene. No amount of BrainBleach can wipe away the image that is now burned in my retinas.
**Adding to THAT, the show lifted, verbatim, an old joke that had been around long before the show returned from cancellation. Not a joke from any show, a "did you hear the one..." joke. The cutaway gag where Peter, dressed like a doctor, informs a husband that his wife has become a vegetable, and that he'll have to spend all his life caring for her, then follows it with "Nah, I'm just kidding, she's dead". That's probably hilarious, had you not been told that joke less than a year before the show returned from cancellation... [[DudeNotFunny Good luck telling that joke, now, and not being accused of getting it from ''Family Guy''. "Kudos" to Seth MacFarlane and pals for ripping off a source material that can't be pinpointed. Not like that's stopped them, because moment-by-moment recreations are apparently hilarious.]]
***Then there is the episode in which Peter founds his own religion. Quagmire comes to him and tells him about all the dirty things he has done. When Peter explains to him that there is no point in telling him that as there is no confession in his religion, Quagmire responds, "Are you nuts? I'm telling this to ''everyone!''" Also an old joke. It appeared before that in the third ''BlueCollarComedyTour'' movie, told by JeffFoxworthy.
*Yeesh, Meg. Where exactly it started this troper can't pinpoint (and has no real desire to look anyway), but wherever it was that Meg went from [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] teenager with self-esteem issues to punching bag qualifies as the Dethroning Moment of Suck. The fact it was done because the writers allegedly didn't know how to write for a teenage female character just makes it even more stupid. Some examples: Shot full of poison darts? Check. Thrown out of a boat, caught by fisherman, and then verbally berated? Check. Blamed and punished for everything in the series? Check yet again. Being shot POINT BLANK in the head just for greeting her father? Check and mate. And, indeed, compared to everyone else, Meg is far more likable than anyone else in the series these days.
**Agreed. I could understand it as a ''RunningGag'' (because it does make me like Meg more, because seriously, the stuff she gets put through), but Jesus, "The Road to {{The Multiverse}}" is pretty much ''the'' Dethroning Moment for me when it comes to Meg. [[spoiler:''Every single dimension'' hates her for the exact same reason: that she's not pretty enough for them ([[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]] legs in Disneyverse, Bulldog in the Dogs Rule-verse, committing seppuku in the Japanverse for being ugly and being promptly farted on. Even in the universe where Brian and Stewie see her as a sex bomb. [[ThisIsSparta What. The. Hell.]] The worst part there is they show several other women in the background and a woman who's just finished having sex with Quagmire. None come close to as hot as hot Meg]]. The shallowness really just pisses me off.
***Oh, ''God'', yes. I thought things were looking up when Meg was shown to be apparently pretty sexy in one 'verse, but then we find out she's still considered hideous? God damn you, Wellesely. ''Damn you!''
****Really, the only thing funny about the whole Meg's-ugly concept anymore is the fact that in the show's entire run, she's been voiced by two ridiculously gorgeous actresses -— Lacey Chabert and Mila Kunis, for the uninformed.
****One of the Meg's Ugly jokes that really p.o.'d this troper was when Meg was in her underwear (Which I for one enjoyed) and said to BillClinton he could have her and he went eww, and this man was in a limo with like five women who were ''WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY'' fatter than Meg's supposed to be.
*****That scene was undoubtedly intended as a Monica Lewinsky joke. Which ''might'' have been mildly funny, if the episode had aired...oh, '''EIGHT YEARS EARLIER!''' Gee, writers—why don't you throw in some O.J. Simpson jokes while you're at it? Oh, ''wait....''
***The one I hated was when she is begging to get raped, because no other man would have her, and the horrified criminal runs away in disgust.
**[[Tropers/{{Jonn}} I]] sat down for that episode telling myself, "Okay, let's see how long before The Writers bash Christians." Four minutes later, I changed the channel, noted the time for the WriterOnBoard page, and have never watched a new ''Family Guy'' again.
*The MileyCyrus episode had one that was quite disturbing. Brian asks Stewie to reprogram Miley Cyrus into being Brian's sex slave and since she's a minor, Brian is a pedophile (oh God, they're gonna make him the new Herbert!). While that's disgusting enough on its own, Brian justifies this by saying that he's 7. This only makes things worse because now [[FridgeLogic every girl Brian has dated is now a pedophile]]. While he would normally be considered 49 technically (in dog years, since one dog year equals 7 human years), he himself said he's 7 and he can't have it both ways. Either he is 49 and going after a 17 year old (which even Stewie found unacceptable) or else he's 7 and going after a 17 year old (which somehow made everything okay?) and both ways are {{squick}}y.
**Her age isn't even the whole of it. They wanted to re-program her to have sex with Brian against her free will. She may have been a robot, but the implications of rape were definitely there - her being underage only makes an already really creepy moment worse.
***Take into mind that Brian is a dog....as in not a human...[[{{Squick}} how many girlfriends has he had?]]
***What about the scene from the ''HannahMontana'' show where Miley's dad (who is played by her real father) told her to put on her wig so he could have sex with her under the notion that Hannah is not his daughter? Seriously, how many incest jokes do they have to have?
**Don't forget that the Evil Monkey is really a pretty nice guy. More than a few people claimed that was a JumpTheShark moment.
*"Stew-roids". This episode was probably just to get fans of the new, gay, Stewie (yes, they exist) to watch it when it turns out that it was a "Meg episode". But ''that's'' not the problem. Then Connie dates Chris (long story) just to make him "cool". But '''that's''' not the problem. Then Chris breaks up with Connie. But '''''that's''''' not the problem. The problem? Well, Connie "teams up" with Meg to get back at Chris, so Meg gets Neil to show an embarrassing video of Chris to get him to be "not cool" anymore, then ''the freaking principal of the school'' just jumps out of nowhere and says that ''Connie'' is now "cool" again for "getting back at Chris". But...when did Connie do anything? Meg at least gave Neil the deal. Now, does this show run on StatusQuoIsGod or not? They could have done it better, MUCH better. Bonus negative points for making Meg look like a [[PsychoLesbian lesbian creep]] near the end. (Tropers/GreatPikminFan)
**What the principal said was that Connie was popular because the guy who dethroned her had himself been dethroned. Therefore, anything he did was considered irrelevant.
***And despite the title being "Stew-roids", the whole reason he got really buffed up was to get revenge on Susie for humiliating him at the party -- and yet at no point does he ever go back to challenge her and his muscles get totally wasted. They also wasted a good opportunity to have him beat the shit out of Brian, and yet by the end of the episode his muscles waste away, having accomplished nothing -- and Brian chases him out a window and he flies away using his flappy skin.
*Without even getting into the politics, what really got me was the episode where Stewie questions the obvious PlotHole of Brian, a 7-year-old dog, having a teenaged son. Brian's response is "If you don't like it, go on the Internet and complain" (yes, I am aware of the irony). Because obviously, no matter how crappy your own writing skills are, all it takes to defend yourself is to call your opponents nerds with no life. Way to bite the hand that feeds you writers. (Tropers/{{AmuroNT1}})
**There's nothing inherently wrong with intentionally invoking the RuleOfFunny, so long as you remember that the key word is "funny".
***That moment was when I (Tropers/MetalShadowX) declared the seventh season to be the absolute worst. I'm pretty lenient on the show (Even ignoring the stupider crap listed here), but that was uncalled for; I also didn't like the other episode scenes with this "joke", but that was definitely the worst joke yet. With season 8 having no Conway Twitty segment in sight, I'd say things are looking up.
***They do the same in the episode "I Dream of Jesus". "Ha, ha! He's on the internet, and I'm in college!" Considering college students are probably one of Family Guy's biggest markets, I'm surprised how few people seem to have noticed the huge TakeThat against the target audience.
*In "Road to Germany" when Stewie sees the Nazi uniform has a [=McCain=]/Palin 08 tag on it. I don't hate this for political reasons, I hate this because this episode aired in OCTOBER of 2008. That joke would be relevant for one month and then it would seem off-putting. We know you guys are Democrats, and speaking as a Democrat I can say it makes the rest of us look terrible.
** The entire episode, really. [[DudeNotFunny It's all over the map.]]
*The episode where they travel to Texas. There's playing up stereotypes for humor, and there's presenting a direct critique of something. Both fine by themselves; ''they do not go well together''. Like bleach and ammonia. It's frightening that anyone out there is so bad at satire as to not know this; even moreso that a major network will still gladly pump the resulting cloud of toxic gas into people's homes.
** I think that this is a semi-stereotype at best. Being from Texas, I find few cowboy hat-wearing, rootin'-tootin', hicks. However, I imagine some Texans do indeed enjoy filling this stereotype while traveling to irritate other people. Sadly, it seems that quite a few non-Texans are surprised when they realize that not every Texan is a horse-wranglin', cattle-russlin', stereotype. Still, the other presumptions made by Seth and his crew are definitely below the belt.
**And then there's the pretense to get the Griffins to Texas: Stewie throws up in church after drinking too much wine and eating communion wafers, leading people to believe he's been possessed. So the ''whole town'' shows up to take Stewie away from his family to ''perform an exorcism'', and the Griffins '''leave Rhode Island'''. Never mind the fact that most church-sanctioned exorcisms are only for extreme cases -- the '''whole fucking town''' thinks that taking a child away from its family to perform a dangerous and potentially fatal religious practice based on a single instance of that child throwing up in church is '''A GOOD THING TO DO?!''' Oh, and let's not forget that while they're on the way to Texas, the Griffins learn that '''the police''' are looking for Stewie. Let me repeat that: '''the police are looking for a child because he may be possessed.''' Listen, I know it's just ''FamilyGuy'', and it's not meant to be intelligent entertainment on any level, but still... this qualifies as an Extreme DarthWiki/WallBanger in my opinion, and one of the absolute dumbest moments in television history.
***Also, considering that Stewie is like, an '''INFANT''', and infants vomit a lot, '''it makes even LESS SENSE''' that they would assume that he is possessed ''simply because he barfed'' '''AFTER EATING A LOT'''. WHAT ARE THESE MORONIC POLICEMEN ON?
***I also like that, despite the fact that the Griffins are stuck inside their house while it is surrounded by an angry mob, in the next scene they have somehow gotten into their car.
***Don't forget the fact that the Texans ''immediately'' try to execute Peter when he tells them he's retarded. Yes, Texas ''did'' execute a mentally retarded man, but he shot a cop. ''[[CriticalResearchFailure They don't try to kill retarded people for simply existing]]''.
**What annoyed me the most about the episode was Brian's short anti-Texas rant that was flirting with being a BigLippedAlligatorMoment where he notes that Texas is "A Red State Full of Right-Wing Nutjobs". Okay, [=MacFarlane=] or whoever the hell wrote this ep, I have one question for you: Have you NEVER heard of Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, or ANY OTHER GODDAMN URBAN SPRAWL IN TEXAS!? Seriously, there are some areas in Texas that are so Blue they make LA look Red. The only reason Texas is a Republican stronghold is because the suburbs around the cities tend to be more red as well as the large population nested in the Panhandle and the Guadelupe Mountains...
*"The Juice Is Loose": it was extremely dated (which they lamely tried to cover up in the intro), the jokes seemed to be stolen from a lame talk show circa 1993 and the ending was such a lame {{Shaggy Dog|Story}} moment. This is proof that if an episode can be dated BEFORE IT EVEN AIRS, it won't be long until the entire show become old and stale.
**I would like to point out that in two past episodes they made jokes that made O.J. innocent in the murder, including a news broadcast the real killer was found, and then all of a sudden he's deemed the murder again, talk about SeasonalRot.
*For [[DreadBaron me]] the final minutes of "Lois Kills Stewie" was the DMOS. The episode was (or so I thought) Stewie's final appearance, as his plans had finally succeeded. In a matter of minutes, we go from Stewie's "last hurrah" turns into a simulation. This was the breaking point, in my opinion.
**Still the [[strike: LampshadeHanging]], correction: the '''expected''' lampshade hanging with [[DontExplainTheJoke Brian and Stewie talking about how people would be disappointed]] [[ItGotWorse only made it worse]].
*[[Tropers/{{vampireklepto}} For me]], they started to get a bad omen watching Stewie's [[VillainSong over-the-top song about world domination]]. Ironic that part of the lyrics berated ''TheSimpsons'' for [[TakeThat not being funny anymore]], when ''Family Guy'' has managed it in fewer seasons. The main problem is watching the degeneration from actual jokes to just sex and violence (watch the chicken fights in order, they start getting a lot darker) and after watching "Love Blactually" with the most annoying, preachy, self-righteous Brian I think gives [[TheSimpsons Lisa Simpson]] a run for her money, I don't have high hopes of the rest of season 7.
*I stuck by Family Guy through the first 7 seasons broadcast in the UK. Then came "I dream of Jesus". Then I saw how dependent the show had become on cutaway or recurring unfunny gags drawn out so damn long, as well as all the political stuff Seth had seeped through lately. That one episode caused me to have enough of the entire show.
**Perhaps this Christian might be looking into this a bit to deeply, but what was up with their portrayal of Jesus as an immature brat in the last half of the episode? Where did that characterization come from at all? The first half of the episode played JesusWasWayCool fairly straight, then dropped it entirely for "immature celebrity" gags featuring Jesus. And in the end, the make Peter out to be more mature than Jesus; maybe it would have been more understandable (if not arrogant) if Brian was the one lecturing Jesus at the end... but ''[[RalphWiggum Peter]]''?
*My personal BerserkButton is the episode "Prick Up Your Ears", where the students at Meg's high school take abstinence pledges instead of being taught safe sex. Now, on one level I can agree with the basic {{Aesop}} that safe sex should be taught and condoms should be used...but what really turned this episode into a [=DMoS=] for me was the implication that if you deliberately choose not to have sex, there's something seriously wrong with you. [[RapeIsOkWhenItIsFemaleOnMale Apparently, according to Lois, rape is alright when it's used as a teaching tool to demonstrate to people why they shouldn't be abstinent.]] So if I, though the freedom of choice that the episode is supposed to promote, decide I don't want to have sex, it's alright for me to be raped as a means of "enlightening" me? Yikes.
**Especially the part about abstinence not being a "reasonable choice". That's like saying you can only either stay away from cigarettes your whole life or smoke 2 cartons every day, there is no in between.
*The one where Quagmire begins to rape [[TheSimpsons Marge]] and then she gives in is a particularly bad example. Matt Groening himself was pissed and chewed [=MacFarlane=] out. Eventually even [=MacFarlane=] admitted the joke was in really bad taste.
**For me, Quagmire crossed the MoralEventHorizon when he did that. Yeah guys, go ahead and show my favorite childhood characters get raped and killed. (Tropers/{{Emperordaein}})
***It gets worse. [[RapeIsLove Marge eventually GIVES IN]]. And after doing it with her, he kills the entire Simpsons family. [[ThisIsSparta WHAT. THE. FUCK.]] [[NoJustNo IS wrong with these people]]?! Some fans do take some solemn refuge in the thought that after Maggie's distinctive pacifier sucking is heard, there is a pause before the last gunshot is heard, which some fans like to interpret as Maggie taking the gun off him and doing him in. Would be bloody glorious if that actually happened, even if it wouldn't quite make up for the previous (appalling) joke.
***In my opinion, one of the worst DarthWiki/{{wall banger}}s about that whole segment was that it could have actually made for a decent joke/sight gag - if they cut it off right before it went straight into DudeNotFunny with the aforementioned cold-blooded murder (or, if you prefer, [[RapeIsLove Marge giving in]]).
**The biggest wallbanger comes in the DVD commentary for the episode where [=MacFarlene=] goes off on a long, unfunny tangent in which he goes on a long, whiny tirade about the joke being cut for syndication, insisting it's some sort of conspiracy perpetrated by Fox because he insulted their beloved cash cow (as opposed to the fact that it was a tasteless joke involving rape, murder and infanticide) then goes on to say the joke was justified because the Simpsons had already made several (Minor, mostly in good will) jokes at Family Guy's expense.
* My. God. Even after giving up on this show forever IT STILL MANAGES TO DISAPPOINT ME. On the 61st Emmys (2009) ''Family Guy'' did a segment for the show. Can you guess what they did? Have the family argue who's going to win? Have Peter meet the nominees? Do something funny? Nope. They repeated a joke. Which joke? THE ONE THAT HAS STEWIE BEATING UP BRIAN. THE EXACT SAME JOKE. The only thing they did change was the lines. And in turn, MADE THE FACT THAT STEWIE BEATS UP BRIAN MAKE NO SENSE. Any you know what, people laughed. TV's finest writers, actors, and other people laughing at this sick excuse for a joke. I died a little inside.
*What's even more stunning than "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" is "420", where Brian basically serves as a mouthpiece for pro-pot legalization propaganda, from conspiracy theories to all the supposed wonderful benefits that society receives once it's done. Not once does the episode really suggest that anything bad might happen as a result of wide-spread pot use, and the status quo is restored purely as a result of one man's greed.
** ''[[Tropers/LoneHoundoom I]] most certainly object to jokes implying that you can only enjoy [[DoctorWho Doctor]] [[HePannedItNowHeSucks Who]] if you're high.'' Not cool, man, not cool.
* [[Tropers/{{Demetrios}} I]] pretty much stopped watching the show after the episode "Family Goy". Why, you may ask? I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]].
**Bravo, Mark. You took one of the most chilling and disturbing scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' and played it for laughs (a shirtless Peter casually attempts to shoot Lois with a sniper rifle, all while his cigarette sits on the balcony ledge (and since when did they have a balcony?)). The only way that could've made a more tasteless reference to the Holocaust would be by having Mort Goldman complain about how dirty a gas chamber is. Of course, Hentemenn will probably read this, and think that's a great idea...
*When Quagmire gets the cat, and the other guys get annoyed and decide to shave it. We see Peter "shaving" it, actually killing it, complete with shrieks of pain from the cat, and blood spurting with each cut, landing on Peter and everywhere else. Besides not being funny in any conceivable way, this drags Peter's character and intelligence to depths never imagined, and crossed the MoralEventHorizon. The eventual payoff at the end of the episode reinforces these new lows.
**And it is even worse when you (miraculously) make it through to the end, where Quagmire is offering $200 dollars for the information of the whereabouts of his cat. Peter grabs the money out of Quagmire's hand and says he killed the cat in a very callous tone and walks off. Credits roll. '''WHAT!!!???'''
*The episode where they make fun of Carrot Top for his alleged over-reliance on props in order to be funny...because its not like ''FamilyGuy'' uses something way too much for the purpose of comedy.
*After watching a scene where Peter listed "all the brown people you can rape" as a benefit of joining the U.S. Navy in "Saving Private Brian", I swore myself off of ''Family Guy'' forever.
*When they started doing a rape or domestic violence joke at least, oh, once an episode if not more. LOL a woman is being horribly assaulted! I like dark humor, but there's a world of difference between say, Sarah Silverman's infamous bit in ''TheAristocrats'' and in ''Family Guy'' where there's no other joke besides...a woman being raped. Or horribly beaten. And Peter's "Oh get over it, it's a cartoon!" was particularly sickening cause I'm even more offended by the laziness and cowardice of that defense than I am the actual jokes themselves.
**"[[AquaMan You shouldn't have]] [[CompleteMonster led him on.]]" I first saw that gag along with a friend that had been a victim of sexual assault. I had voiced my concerns with her about my own disdain over how Meg's abuse was being played for laughs, having been a child abuse victim myself, but that ''AquaMan'' joke was the beginning of the end. Namely, the end of watching ''Family Guy'' ever again. We found that to be the turning point, sort of like CerebusSyndrome for being incredibly distasteful. You can't just flatly mirror real-life ignorant statements for laughs. Some hate later episodes for basically saying "THIS IS A JOKE", but we hated the series far before then, when they started saying "THIS IS SEXIST/RACIST/ETC." ''and playing this ignorance for laughs.'' Like, when ''KingOfTheHill'' is doing its usual thing, you're just like, "Ha ha, Bible-belt StrawmanPolitical conservative hijinks!" When ''FamilyGuy'' tries something similar, your reaction is more like, "Ha h--wait, incredibly offensive hijinks with a touch of TruthInTelevision? DudeNotFunny." It's hard to classify this under a definitive episode, but the ''AquaMan'' joke is definitely when I first started realizing just how badly these subjects were being handled.
* Next to ''DrawnTogether'', this is the animated show that '''defines''' NegativeContinuity, but when it comes to the characters' backgrounds, you used to look for a little consistency. For most of the show, Peter was the son of an Irish-Catholic, but discovered that one of his ancestors was a black man who was enslaved by his wife's family. And since that ancestor was renamed "Nate Griffin", it is logical to assume that Nate was from Peter's father's side of the family. Even "Untitled Griffin Family History" acknowledged Nate as a member of the family. But then, in one extremely stupid episode, we discover that not only was Francis Griffin '''NOT''' Peter's father, but Peter's father was a drunk living in Ireland. So Nate's outta the picture, unless the writers pulls out of their ass an explanation that Nate went over to Ireland for some reason (which until he does makes Nate a complete waste of time). And then comes ''"Padre de Familia"'' where it turns out that not is only Peter at least three-quarters Irish, but he was actually born from a failed abortion in Mexico. So now all of a sudden, Peter is now technically Mexican and is an illegal. [[DidNotDoTheResearch Putting aside that not only do immigration laws NOT work that way]], having three biological kids and living your entire life in America would at least not make him an illegal. And he has to work with migrant workers on his father-in-law's mansion because he want to get in touch with his non-existent roots, only for a SnapBack at the end. I won't get into detail about Lois' family's changes. For the love of God ([[StrawAtheist oh, wait...]]) guys, why do you feel the need to change what little you had established?
** In ''Family Guy'', immigration laws (like everything else) work the way that would most effectively create an {{anvilicious}} [[StrawmanPolitical strawman conservative]].
* The episode "Business Guy". The episode didn't exactly do or say anything offensive but it suffered from major plot holes, poor writing, an arbitrary resolution, and had only a few mediocre jokes. This isn't the offensive episode that ruins a show, this is the mediocre episode that makes people realize a show has run out of steam. Peter takes over Carter Pewterschmidt's company after a strip club sequence, whereupon the episode meanders along for 20 minutes (with a mediocre Quagmire joke in it) then tries to use a ''ScoobyDoo'' reference that ''Scooby Doo'' fans are sick of.
* I know it's ''Family Guy'', and it lives to be offensive, but is anyone else starting to notice that the show has a bit of a fixation on Jewish stereotypes and antisemitic gags? We have Peter reenacting scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' for laughs, an entire segment consisting of Mort Goldman coming up with dozens of ways to call Jews cheap.
** Here's something strange worth noting-- when Mort Goldman would originally appear, his large "weakling" personality was the source of comedy from him. Probably three years later after the show returned in 2005, jokes about him started to focus on his being a Jew. I am getting such a bad vibe from that shift in humor.
** Honestly, it goes beyond antisemitic jokes. There is a ton of casual racism
that's just played out for laughs, especially in regard to blacks. The first few times I noticed it was from Brian which, alright, fine; Brian's a staunch progressive with a hidden, slightly racist streak inherited from his father. But then the jokes started coming from Stewie as well. And then every other character. I know the entire cast has been contributing more or less [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into complete jackasses but when the racist jokes come so often and from every character, it starts to seem like maybe [[WriterOnBoard the writers have some issues]].
* Is it just me or has there been a lot of Robin Williams bashing lately? The cutaway in "[=McStroke=]" was lame enough, but then in "Baby Not On Board" a cutaway showed the kids in ''PatchAdams'' killing themselves over Robin's jokes (Something ''MadMagazine'' [[ItsBeenDone already did a decade earlier!]]), "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag" had ''WhatDreamsMayCome'' as one of the [=DVDs=] no one wanted to buy, and most recently in "Big Man On Hippocamus" there was a lame cutaway gag where the joke basically is "Robin isn't funny anymore". Right. [[SarcasmMode Because antisemitism, misogyny, and three minutes of Conway Twitty singing are much funnier than]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTAcw9puvY this]]. And don't think I'm complaining about all this because I'm a butthurt Robin fangirl. I'm complaining because these {{Take That}}s are unoriginal and not clever at all. My only consolation is that they haven't done a {{Gorn}}-filled animated snuff film ala ''{{Futurama}}''... yet. I wouldn't put it past them though.
* The second ''StarWars'' parody managed to be [[SoOkayItsAverage surprisingly alright]], its main flaw coming from missing out on the chance to make jokes (Missed Moment Of Funny?). The abortion joke, however, was [[DudeNotFunny just tasteless]].
* In the episode "Extra-Large Medium," the first gag of the show is Peter skating around in circles shouting "StarlightExpress" over and over. Apparently just [[ShallowParody saying the name of the thing you're making fun of]] counts as a joke now. Taking a page out of the ''SeltzerAndFriedberg'' book of comedy?
** The entire episode is a slap in the face to [[SarahPalin a certain politician]]. Subtle political satire is good, but this is just pathetic. The whole concept of the plot is mean-spirited and completely unnecessary. Said politician understandably criticized the episode for taking shots at someone who was supposed to be miles away from political crossfire. In response the actor who portrayed the character in question proceeded to defend her position and attack the politician for being hyper-sensitive and treating her son poorly. But here's the punchline-Seth backs her up. Not surprising that the actor would defend her own character (she was paid to voluntarily act, mind you), and proceed to explain that the attack was on the politician, not the child, which is not only still in poor taste, but is also a terrible excuse. Not to mention, more unlikely than an episode without an anti-Chrstian/Republican undertone. Her whole "get a sense of humor" is about as weak of an argument as they come. I dare that actor to publicly tell that to every single parent with a Downs Syndrome child, or someone who actually has the syndrome. Just think about it.
* Did anyone else {{facepalm}} after watching Lois make fun of Brian for dating an idiot in ''Whistle While Your Wife Works''? Especially since said idiot was only about as dumb Lois's husband, but much nicer, hotter and more infinitely more mentally stable and emotionally mature?
** Not just that Jillian is a much better companion than Peter, but considering that Lois knows that Brian has always loved her (Lois) since ''Brian in Love'' in Season 2 (and re-iterated in ''Play It Again, Brian''), it was downright cruel for her to mock Brian for his romantic choices. The guy is trying to preserve his friendships with you and your husband, and your marriage, by moving on and looking for someone else, and you throw it back in his face?!
* For me, another DMOS has to be what they did with Connie's character. Originally she was just the popular [[TheLibby Libby]] character who would make fun of Meg for her efforts to try to fit in with the popular kids. But nowadays she goes out her way to tease Meg even if Meg is just minding her own business, and even though Meg honestly wanted to be friends with Connie in the past. It just was fucking cruel in the "Stew-Roids" episode where Meg shows Connie the cuts she deliberately gave herself over the years as a result of Connie's cruel treatment of her when Connie asked Meg for help to make Chris "uncool". Because in later episodes if anything even after seeing how badly Meg has been hurt by her bullying (and how Meg cuts herself as a result of it) she ''still'' treats Meg like shit, if not more so.
* Ugh, the episode ''Baby Not On Board'', we all knew Peter is an idiot but at least he has some plausible reasons for it. Here it just...I don't have the words for it but man I know I couldn't be the only person who wanted to punch out Peter for his mind blowing stupidity. But no, NO, that's not the worst of it. After all the crap he puts his family through, Lois finally blows up at him for it. And then...feels ashamed when Peter ''rebuffs'' her for it? WHAT?! No! Nononononono. {{Rule of Funny}} or not, I can't give this show that one. There are just some {{Karma Houdini}} moments I can't forgive.
** [[Tropers/UberCream Someone]] should probably elaborate for those who are curious: Lois yells at him, and Peter responds with the speech John Candy delivers in ''PlanesTrainsAndAutomobiles''. Yes, the entire speech-- almost word for word. And Lois immediately forgives him.
*** And don't forget they end it by [[DontExplainTheJoke explaining the joke]] with Chris going 'haa, movie reference'. Just in case ya didn't get it. DID YA GET IT?! He's stealing a monologue word-for-word from an infinitely better and funnier movie!...''{{Futurama}}'' can't return fast enough in [[Tropers/TheDogSage my]] opinion.
* For me, the Dethroner came in ''Padre de Familia,'' when, in a cutaway gag, it's revealed Peter didn't even know what 9/11 was until months after...he walked in, saw Lois watching the coverage with tears in her eyes, and he ''laughs and says it must be a woman pilot.'' [[DudeNotFunny THAT'S NOT F*CKING FUNNY!]]
** You'd think [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] would hold more respect for the victims of 9/11, considering he was almost one of them.
***Objection, [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] did not write that episode. Let's give the guy some credit, and assume he didn't read the script until after. But, yeah...that joke should have been vetoed quick.
*** Overruled. He voices two of the main characters; of course he read the script beforehand.
* For me, the DMOS showed up in the episode "No Chris Left Behind" when the family went to see the Nutcracker and Stewie turned to Meg and said "You know Meg, female ballet dancers are famous for anorexia and bulimia, and uh...seems to work out for them. So, hintidy hint hint." Um...ok I know Meg bashing is a RunningGag for this show but that wasn't even funny. Heck the first time I saw that part in the episode I felt disgusted. In part because I've had anorexia myself in the past, and looking back on it I
can only hope that I don't ever go down that road again. Telling Meg, who was just minding her own business, that she should develop an eating disorder...could he have acted any more like a unlikeable {{jerkass}}? Oh, and that's not the first time...he also deliberately picked at Jillian's issues with her weight and the knowledge that she has bulimia in order to get her to throw up all so he could take one of her teeth to give to the tooth fairy. And Jillian has always been genuinely nice to Stewie! Oh, and basically just the fact that Stewie was getting his daily lulz out of something as potentially life-threatening as having an eating disorder.
** That was very off putting to me as well. Another thing about the situation with Jillian's eating disorder that upset me was Brian's way of dealing with it. His girlfriend is causing serious harm to herself, but Brian doesn't do anything to help her because it makes her look "so hot" to him. What a selfish jackass.
* I think we should start listing all the worst {{Flanderization}} moments that have degraded Lois from a [[MamaBear loving mother and wife]] to a abusive shrew:
** "Go Stewie Go" had Lois trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, giving the [[DarthWiki/WallBanger wall banging]] excuse that Meg's boyfriend was trying to "rape" her when Meg caught them in the act, and then having the gall to insist that she could easily steal him away from her daughter if she wanted to during her "apology". Wasn't this [[CompleteMonster repulsive]] woman a mother?
** "Peter-assment" was an alright episode, as it
be made Peter out to be a much nicer guy than most episodes do (even counting him deciding to assault his boss), however, it finished off Lois as a likeable character for me...namely "It doesn't count as sexual harrasment if its own entry.
*Explain ''why''
it's a woman on a man"...so let me get this straight. Men don't care if someone touches them if it's a woman, because we enjoy it no matter what, even if we really can't stand the person, and we are already deeply devoted to the woman we love? And because of that, it doesn't count as sexual harrasment? Coupled with her just ignoring the fact that Meg was, in fact, sexually harrased by a teacher...for god's sake, I never wanted a character to be permanently killed off so much.
*** I'd say it's worse than that: some have noticed that Meg isn't getting as much abuse this season as before (maybe someone's been reading this page). This was, in a way, the case here, but the conversation was so obviously meant to set up either Peter or Lois laughing at and insulting Meg that it was as if the writers figured that if they can't abuse Meg, they're not going to try to write for her.
*** Oh, Lois had an even ''worse'' moment in that episode! When Peter's boss called him to harass him over the phone, Peter begs Lois to tell her (his boss) he's not home. Lois calls him a baby, then gets back on the phone and says "Peter's in the shower...touching himself to your picture." All said with a smile on her face. So Peter has no choice but to take the call. ''What the fucking hell, woman?!''
**** The level of general CharacterDerailment is at the point of no return: I was aware that what Lois did was actually quite heinous, but I just couldn't feel bad about it. Considering that the last time Peter accused someone of sexual assault was his '''doctor''' for a '''digital rectal exam''', it was impossible for me to feel empathy for him.
***** One must remember in that episode, when Peter walked in the kitchen looking traumatised, Lois asks what's wrong, to which Peter says, "I was raped." Though it's true that Peter wasn't raped, one MUST remember that Lois's first reaction to this statement is that she '''LAUGHS!''' WTF Lois?!?
*** There's also the massive gap in logic that Lois doesn't seem to care that another woman is trying to seduce her husband.
** Lois basically telling Meg that she should kill herself in the episode "Stew-Roids". At one point in the episode Lois attempted to comfort Meg who was ''denied the right to attend a party Chris was holding at their own house''. However, Lois gives up trying to comfort Meg after 45 minutes, gives her a Sylvia Plath novel, a bottle of Ambien and leaves her to her misery, saying "whatever happens, happens." All because she couldn't be bothered to spend any more of her precious time on Meg. That moment pretty much made Lois out to be the ultimate [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] in my eyes.
** In the episode "Peter's Daughter" when Meg thinks she's pregnant, she refuses to have an abortion. Lois suggests Meg consider drinking and smoking a lot to cause a miscarriage, but not to "wimp out halfway through", because Lois ended up with Chris.
*** Not to mention when Peter's actions put Meg in a coma Peter starts to feel bad and rethink how he's been treating Meg. And what does Lois tell Peter when he says he feels like he never treated Meg as well as he should have? "Oh, don't be too hard on yourself, Peter. We all do things that we're not proud of." It's just the idea that she basically doesn't think the fact that Peter put Meg into a coma is that big of a deal. [[BerserkButton F*ck THAT! It IS a big f*cking deal!]]
* The episode that consisted of Brian getting a pilot published which was then butchered by TV execs with a subplot of Stewie suffering a severe head injury and Chris and Meg have to cover it up while he's unconscious. The jokes ranged from mediocre to DudeNotFunny. I was horrified that they tried to cover up Stewie's injury by throwing him under the car while it was pulling out, and the incest joke that was included in Brian's butchered show was disgusting.
** It's completely understandable to have a subplot where a character gets knocked out and the others pretend he's okay, but when it's an ''infant'' that's knocked out, and the family shows callous disregard of the injury to the point of negligence ([[NauseaFuel maggots growing on exposed brain matter, a goddamn raccoon gnawing at the wound]]), it just goes from being in bad taste to becoming completely, unrepentantly horrible.
** I would like to to point out that was Peter who threw Stewie under that car, because he wanted to make Lois think she was behind Stewie's injury for no good reason and and that Meg was going to take Stewie to hospital but Peter stopped. This leads to another example of Lois' [[CharacterDerailment character derailment]] when she immediately suggests a cover-up, just as Peter had been doing.
* The episode where Brian got angry over the Army being allowed to try and recruit at Meg and Chris's high school was it for me. I'd had enough of him at that point.
* Peter shooting the Native American girl (who was about to be ''[[RapeAsComedy raped]]'' no less) in "April In Quahog". Might as well rename the show to ''Misogyny Guy'' at this point.
** There's also when it's implied Meg strangled a cat to death. Seriously, '''[[CharacterDerailment Meg???]]''' Great, now she's the ''FamilyGuy'' equivalent of [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Evil Manga Kaworu]].
* The episode "Dog Gone". It was pretty much just scenes of dogs getting mutilated and killed horribly, paired with an animal rights {{aesop}}. It also shows that Brian's family would love to kill and eat him to see what he tastes like, but after hearing (falsely) that he died, they still manage to be sad about it. That was the episode that ruined the rest of the series for me.
** I seriously couldn't enjoy any part of that episode. Also, I found it weird that at the town meeting, Brian was demanding that everyone stop eating meat, even though he's a dog ... an animal that is, by nature, carnivorous. Even today, a dog's diet consists mainly of meat or meat based products and Brian's always been shown eating meat throughout the series, so from where did this come?
* This may not qualify, since it was ''technically'' on ''TheClevelandShow'', but it was a crossover episode, and the [=DMoS=] moments apply to ''Family Guy'' characters. So in this episode, Cleveland finds out that his ex-wife Loretta had died, and he doesn't know why he is so sad about it, considering that he hated her in every way possible. This seems like a decent emotional plot to an episode, except for the cause of death. Quagmire travels down to Cleveland's new (old) town to tell Cleveland that [[KarmaHoudini Peter]] had accidentally dropped a T-Rex skeleton (don't ask) on Cleveland's house from Family Guy, where Loretta was living. She was in the bathtub and fell out of the house in that silly way Cleveland did a lot, except she broke her neck when the tub hit the ground. Instead of calling an ambulance, Peter stood there and laughed at her "gross boobs." This was a horrible thing to do, even for Peter.
** Oh, AND Quagmire took Loretta's dead body, put it in a French Maid costume, and then ''had sex with it'' before driving it to Cleveland's for a proper burial.
* At the end of the episode ''FOX-y Lady'', Lois reveals that she no longer works for FOX, with no explanation given to how or why, then she gives a piss poor [[LampshadeHanging excuse]] that [[ViewersAreMorons no one cares]], to make up for the writers' inability to properly end the episode. As a writer, it's your job to atleast [[HandWave attempt]] to write a proper ending.
*The 150th episode begins with another Brian and Stewie episode. Brian eats Stewie's poo. And washes it down with Stewie's puke. Then wipes Stewie with his tongue. {{Squick}} does not even begin to describe it.
**For me, it was Brian trying to pierce Stewie's ear, and getting the pin lodged inside his ear canal and getting it stuck...I mean, ''my GOD''.
**At the end of the episode Brian appears to say "I hope you enjoyed this very special episode." This merely served as adding insult to injury.
** There was also the incredibly hamfisted character drama between Stewie and Brian, especially Brian being suicidal which comes out of nowhere and is done in the most eye rollingly bad fashion imaginable. And then afterwards Brian and Stewie proclaim that they're best friends and they love each other...which makes no sense when just a few minutes earlier, Stewie made Brian eat his poop and outright said he did it just to see if he could get Brian to do it.
** I was excited to hear that the episode was supposed to have no random cutaway scenes. I wanted to see if Family Guy would be able to stand on its own without them, and boy was I not surprised. It was a 45 minute long {{bottle episode}}, taking place entirely in a bank vault. The other fifteen minutes was just old/unaired footage. Cheapest milestone event EVER.
** The episode did not even contain humor, nor make an attempt to. In a comedy show, they didn't even try to do anything funny, or even very entertaining.
** It was like they were just trying to see if they could piss off everyone watching the show...
** Considering the episode upped Brian's Sueness to previously unheard levels, brought Stewie IMMENSELY OOC, focused it solely on those two, I have a feeling it was more of a {{take that}} to everyone who complained.
**The only episode I turned off due to sheer boredom with it all, and I can't be the only one
* The episode "Quagmire's Dad" takes the Brian hate to a new level with the blatant, unprovoked one-sided "fight" between Brian and Quagmire (who I'd already lost respect for because of his TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Brian), not to mention the subsequent death threat.
** The entire plot of the episode was cringe worthy, it starts off with the portrayal of an EasySexChange that is PlayedForLaughs and {{Squick}} for the entirety of the episode. [[DidNotDoTheResearch The sex change is shown to not only change sex but do everything else as well.]] I believe the character in question even became shorter due to the operation as she is seen in heels the rest of the episode. No one in the episode sides with transsexuals, they just seem to have varying degrees of disgust regarding the whole situation. Quagmire admitting he just wants his dad to be happy is the closest thing. To top it all of, there wasn't even a real ending, Brain and Quagmire fight and then Brain says "I fucked your dad". No resolution, No {{Aesop}}, just "Hey look! Isn't this gross?"
** This episode gets frickin' worse: Lois and Peter. I'm perfectly fine with Peter being an insensitive douche but Lois is Brian's friend. I mean I know his plots are boring but they totally treated him like garbage and chased him out and then laughed and laughed about how he was dating a transsexual instead of breaking it to him gently. Peter maybe but not Lois. [[DudeNotFunny And especially not after an episode where we learn Brian was contemplating suicide. My god these writers have lost all sense of shame and decorum.]]
** This episode shows Brian's worst descent from [[OnlySaneMan the likable voice of reason]] to UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, and then enters outright {{jerkass}} territory towards the end of the episode. He starts out needy and harbours [[SmallNameBigEgo unhealthy levels of self-importance]] when Lois isn't on-board with his every move. Upon meeting Ida, he forces a mention of the pretentious-sounding seminar he's attended to strike up a conversation, and continues to label himself a "writer" despite recent episodes showing his [[GiftedlyBad woeful ineptitude]]. Brian makes out with Ida, and presumably reach fourth base in Ida's hotel room. Upon his return home, he's pissed that Lois is unable to show genuine interest in his seminar (did he ask anyone else what they'd be up to?), but is excited to mention the woman he met last night. Sure, Lois' reaction to the photo is [[CharacterDerailment uncharacteristically harsh]], but when Brian hears from Stewie about Quagmire's (as-yet-unnamed) father having undergone gender reassignment surgery, he reacts just as brutally (and silences [[ButtMonkey Meg]] when she ''does'' ask him about the seminar). Upon {{the reveal}}, Brian's disgust is a [[{{Understatement}} protracted]] VomitIndiscretionShot that was presumably meant by the writers to appear {{squick}}y, but if we could all take a moment to consider the long-running and [[ElephantInTheLivingRoom unignorable]] quirk in the series' run of {{interspecies romance}} Brian has encountered: Ida may have a vagina that has been surgically constructed from her inverted penis, but Brian is a freakin' ''DOG''! Brian has no right to be so vomit-inducingly disgusted (or require thorough scrubbing afterward) when he discovers that his partner was not born female, when he isn't even the same species as her. To top it, yelling to Quagmire, "I fucked your dad" confirms his unwarranted prejudice, and any remaining shred of sympathy dissolves hereon. [[SarcasmMode Way to go, Brian. A real mature retort there]].
*** Sounds like another fail parody of a 90's pop reference. The Crying Game at least was treated well by ''RobotChicken''.
** Along with all this, let's not forget that Brian is the victim here, and he didn't even do anything wrong. ''He didn't know that was Quagmire's father''. And Quagmire's righteous indignation and beating of Brian is especially hypocritical when you consider the fact that there are probably hundreds of people who'd be far more justified in beating '''him''' half to death for raping them and/or their loved ones. Or maybe one of those children he's fathered, but never sees, could give him a good beating.
*** Me personally, this was the episode where I gave up on Quagmire. Yes, I could agree with some of what he said in "Jerome is the New Black" (even IF it made Brian cry), but '''senselessly beating the crap out of somebody who had no idea of what he did was wrong, and didn't EVEN want to fight back (and was RUNNING AWAY IN FEAR)''' is... just... WOW. Seriously, if there a REASON for causing friction between Quagmire and Brian, ok, fine. ...but god damn, Seth...
**** The entire reason of Quagmire beating Brian makes no sense to me. Is it normal practice in {{Eagleland}} to attack your ugh... mother's boyfriend? It looks like they just thought it would be cool make Glenn beating Brian. But [[ConfusingMultipleNegatives it's not just not funny]] it's not even an attempt to be funny. It's just horrible.
* "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". If they were going for RefugeInAudacity, they failed, because [[SomebodyElsesProblem that is]] ''[[SomebodyElsesProblem exactly]]'' [[SomebodyElsesProblem how if works in]] RealLife. It's disturbing to watch and made me feel sick.
** The joke itself was pretty funny (Ha, Dr. Seuss wrote a book named "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". This makes no sense, why would someone write such book for children? Thats makes me laugh) ManateeGag just ruined it. It didn't add anything but disturbing context.
** [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi I]] was really shocked when I first witnessed that cutaway, so nowadays, I would change the channel for a few seconds. They could've thought of a less painful cutaway to fill 22 minutes?
* All the put downs towards women in "The Splendid Source" literally made this troper say, "screw you" to her television.
** Seconded. I had given up on Family Guy, but decided to give IT one more chance. I thought this episode was kind of funny. Then I got up to the point where Peter is in the room with the smartest people in the room, and smugly comments, "Not a lot of women." Well, this woman is smart enough to skip this show and its lazy, misogynistic writers.
* I happen to be politically conservative, and swore off ''Family Guy'' after about seven seasons' worth of straw man arguments. Stewie in a Nazi uniform with a "[=McCain=]/Palin" button? Check. Peter repeating "We should bomb Iraq" at the 9/11 memorial? Check. I literally threw my ''Family Guy'' DVDs away.
** Dude, Tropers/MacPhisto is a borderline '''MARXIST''', and even he is disgusted by Seth's endless left-wing strawmanship (gives the rest of us a bad name). I believe that Sarah Palin is the worst thing to happen to this country since it was founded, and even I think "comparing-Republicans-to-Nazis" is both in bad taste and incredibly stupid.
* "Patriot Games", home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and the infamous "Shipoopi" scene. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.
* The episode "Partial Terms of Endearment" (Unaired by FOX) made me so disappointed and disturbed. Not like I have anything to do with pro-life, but somehow they managed to convince me that probably they won't do abortion. I thought "Oh, it's like season finale, maybe they decided to add new character to family with hilarity and heartwarming ensuing. That must be great, [[TheScrappy even if it won't]] things can't get worse" [[StatusQuoIsGod but no]].
** What's even more offensive is the way Peter keeps trying to induce an abortion on Lois.
** It gets even worse when Peter, for the sole purpose of providing a counter argument, is persuaded to become pro life after a 30 second video clip, even by his standards of stupidity, that's too ridiculous. Especially when he went from trying to kill the baby several times to being against abortion in the event of incest, genetic disorders, and even rape. What the fuck?
*** This is made even worse, because abortion is a serious topic, and having the [[StrawmanPolitical dumbest character on the show become the anti abortion strawman]] for no reason is completely offensive to a serious issue.
* This is going to be controversal: In one episode, Peter gets shipwrecked and Brian becomes Lois' new husband. We see that Brian has sexual interest in Lois, but she refuses to do youknowwhat, even though he is a way better father than Peter. In the end, Lois is together with Peter again and NOW she tells Brian that sie did wanted to move their beds together, elaborating on what kinds of things she would have liked to do with him. Don't get me wrong, dog-on-woman is creepy and just gross. But do you really have to tease him with this? Goddammit, he got your daughter a date with a famous sports reporter (which had one of the few funny lines in this episode BTW)! It just feels like she was saying "Yeah, you were nice, but I don't feel like you should be rewarded for it. So FUCK YOU!" This scene makes me want to pay somebody to do a Flash animation in which Lois gets repeatedly stabbed with a rusty knife.
*"Go Stewie Go". The episode was basically justifying Lois and her [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Wallbanging]] motivation of trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, being so selfish to ignore the fact that this was apparently the first normal guy Meg has ever dated (which the episode also goes out of its way to exaggeratedly point this out). Does she take a moment to respect her daughter? (or her husband, [[NegativeContinuity but she's already cheated on him before]], [[SoYeah so...]]) No! She just continues on in her already {{Scrappy}} {{Flanderization}}. [[KarmaHoudini And she gets off the whole ordeal]] with giving a simple (and horrible) apology to Meg and Peter ([[SarcasmMode wait ''silly me'']] she didn't apologise to Peter, [[WallBanger '''she blamed him''' for the whole thing!]]).
**The A-plot of "Go Stewie Go", I understand they were trying to do "Tootsie", but seriously, all they did was replace "soap opera" with "kids' show." That's it, that's all it it was, other than the "band aid" gag, there was ZERO originality.
**Peter exhibiting incestuous attraction towards Meg in the episode "Go Stewie Go" was downright disgusting and made this troper rather uncomfortable, especially when he made Meg kiss him on the lips. Given that Peter is already filling in the verbal and physical abuse aspects of being an [[AbusiveParents abusive parent]] we can now add sexual abuse as well!
**But the ultimate [=DMoS=] of the episode was the bar scene. [[FridgeLogic Did Brian just try and hit on a baby girl?]] It may
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'''[[ThisIsGonnaSuck Well, here it is.]] [[MostTriumphantExample The worst offender of the worst offenders.]] [[SarcasmMode Enjoy.]]'''
* The episode can basically be described as an anti-theist ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth
to a troper, human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.- SNES Master KI
** Not to mention the above quote of "her very existence proves no benevolent force exists" is said with a complete straight face. It's not meant as a joke. It's not meant as an insult to her. It's meant as a fact. Danny Smith is the one that is the creator of this. FridgeLogic applies and means that he's therefore a non-benevolent individual that hates everyone and everything. I'll be completely honest, I watch ''Moral Orel'' and laugh at its portrayal of 'straw Christians'. Mostly because I know that most of them aren't like that, and it's a small vocal minority. But
if multiple entires the people who make the show want to focus on them so and empower them, it's their choice to do so. But this show, it truly hurt me and hurt my feelings. But then I've noticed that ''Family Guy'' has become more and more about being a mouth piece for far-left liberal and atheist beliefs and less about being funny. Really, if you're going to have a show be a mouthpiece, stop saying it's just for jokes, and say what it is: [[SouthPark your own personal propaganda machine.]]
*** I always saw the Meg statement as an extension of The Writer's general misogyny, interpreting "Meg" as basically "any woman who isn't hot". In this way, the statement makes [[InsaneTrollLogic vaguely more sense]], but [[BeyondTheImpossible becomes so much more disgusting as a result]].
*** I think Brian shows his true colors here. He insults Meg for being ugly... this coming from a dog. I don't know what happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but Brian apparently doesn't care. What he sees as "ugly", is totally irrelevant to God because He created what He believes is actually good. It's also worth noting that Brian completely disregards Meg's Christian messages as a whole. Whether or not you agree with a religion, any at all really, a lot of them have genuinely good messages of not stealing, not lying, and so forth. Most people of any religious affiliation (including the non-religious) would probably attest to this. Furthermore, Brian comes off as a HUGE hypocrite when he criticizes Meg for being some "crazy, outspoken, conversion-happy Christian", but it turns out that it's okay for him to convert her into an atheist. [[SarcasmMode Man I love double standards.]]
** Oh thank you for seeing the exact same problem I saw. The argument isn't even an attempt at logic, it's just "If God existed, he would've made Meg pretty." To sum up, if God existed then the atheistic creator of the cartoon would've have drawn a single character in an attractive manner. Dear Krishna, Mr. [=MacFarlane=]! Does he actually consider that a realistic reason to not believe in a God? The strangest part is that Brian's statement is accepted as a reasonable argument and the entire book burning is put to a halt and all the townspeople, who had started behaving like Nazis after becoming more religious, go back to being normal.
*** Similar to how most atheists won't spend their entire time trying to prove that everyone who is religious is an idiot Nazi and most atheists
are signed actually quite fine with people practicing whatever religion makes them happy. But Danny Smith is the exception that proves the rule.
**** As an atheist, I was still somehow offended. It was either going far beyond the realms of parody in terms of portraying Christians, or it was the whole bringing great shame
to atheists everywhere. It was just plain painful to watch.
***** The whole town converts back instantly too. Apparently Meg's existence is a pretty strong argument.
****** The really ridiculous thing is that in early seasons Brian was at least semi-religious. He had a Bible handy at times ("And the Lord said, Go Sox," in response to someone wondering what the bible verse people frequently referenced at ballgames was) and he was the only one who recognized the plagues when Peter made himself a false god, slapping Peter and declaring [[ThisIsSparta "God. Is. Pissed."]]
* That episode doesn't even pass the FridgeLogic test - God and Jesus are characters in the show, as is the Grim Reaper! Brian's venturing into FlatEarthAtheist territory saying that God doesn't exist in a universe where God can be found picking up women at the bar, all for the sake of being a mouthpiece. Also, as a liberal agnostic who used to like ''FamilyGuy'' for totally non-political reasons, I've just gotta comment that sharing his world views doesn't make the recent AuthorTract format any less preachy or condescending. The show just plain isn't funny anymore.
** Crap, at the end of the episode, it even showed that Brian's hypothesis that even though God doesn't exist (except that he does on the show), the universe is an amazing and wondrous place is wrong, as the universe was actually a molecule in the lamp on Adam West's nightstand.
** Wasn't there an episode where Meg became pretty and at the end of the episode it was concluded that being pretty wasn't good for her and she switched back to being ugly of her own free will? Which means that Meg choosing to not be pretty means there isn't a God because if there was a God he would've gone out of his way to interfere with her free will and force her to be attractive. HeadDesk, HeadDesk, HeadDesk.
* Not to mention that they managed to get the entire ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' cast to cameo and barely used them in the weakest guest appearance comedy yet on the show. I had all but given up on the show for a while, but being a TNG fan decided to sit for this one, my blood pressure steadily increasing as it became increasingly obvious that I was subjected effectively to a bait-and-switch (though I don't blame Fox for promoting the cameo, given what a train wreck the entire episode became).
** The first line of the episode implied that ''StarTrek'' convention-goers rarely see sunlight. Guess they wanted to pull out the fresh material right away.
* For the first half of the episode it seems to explicitly set up the moral that you shouldn't discriminate against someone for their faith or lack of one, or that maybe Meg just happened to take her religious belief a little too far... but nope! According to FamilyGuy, Christianity = BAD and Atheism = GOOD.
** That was
the same troper aesop they seemed to be setting up for the more recent one will be cut.
*Moments only, no "just
episode "Familiy Goy". If I remember correctly, it ended with Jesus saying "[[BrokenAesop Six to one, they're [all religions] all complete crap]]".
** Either that or he's going with the flow of the [[{{Anvilicious}} overly passionate]] young people who [[AcceptableTargets blame religion for
everything that's wrong with the Universe]]. Either way it's bad.
* Let's put it this way: this episode was so bad that ''even Seth'' had to eventually apologize for just how blatantly ''stupid'' this episode was in Jerome is the New Black (Quagmire's [[http://www.hulu.com/watch/111154/family-guy-quagmire-goes-off brutal tirade]] against Brian, that many consider Glen's CrowningMomentOfAwesome). This is the same man who approved "Prom Night Dumpster Baby" and yet ''THIS'' was the thing
he said" entries.apologized for. Seriously, it's that bad.
** The worst part. The single worst part of all of this... is that at the end of the episode, where someone calls out Brian, FINALLY, someone calls his bullshit, he comes home crying...and Stewie comforts him and tells him it's okay and not to worry about it. Brian has always been Stewie's first target. Sure, there's some serious FoeYay, but he ALWAYS goes the hell after Brian. And he comforts him. Comforts him and removes that nagging doubt that he's not a complete and utter failure of a character. [[INeedAFreakingDrink Someone get me a beer...]]
* The biggest irony of this whole mess is that Brian's speech at the end of the episode was ''supposed'' to be his CrowningMomentOfAwesome. Instead it wound up here.
* One has to wonder what the point of this episode was: was it meant to turn Christians into atheists? Make atheists shun their friends and family if they believed in, well, ''anything?'' Were we supposed to ''agree'' with Brian and admit that the majority of Americans are evil idiots because they believe in something? WHAT. WAS. THE. POINT?
* The reason why Meg became a Christian in the first place was because her life was starting to ''really'' suck. In other words Danny Smith arrogantly assumed that the ''only reason'' religion exists is because peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then...never mind the fact that Brian's big argument that converts the whole town to atheism is "Peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then." So, um, the exact same thing except with atheism. Not much a difference, is it?
** It also implied that the only reason people believe there isn't a God is because people's lives suck. Not because atheism is what makes sense to some people or anything. Of course not. It simply must be that all atheists are what they are because the God they don't believe in is a jerk. This episode made this atheist want to scream.
* This atheist was extremely offended that the episode portrayed Christians as if they were total morons. This is not the 13th fucking century, very few theists are that radical; not all of them are going to try to convert you or run you out of town. Have some class.
* It didn't help that the only Christians they portrayed are the vocal, extreme minority. Yes, some Christians still practice book burning but the same logic can be applied to everything: some men cheat on their wives so does that make all men evil? No.
* ''Possibly'', Brian's argument is what Christians refer to as the "problem of pain": why would God, who is Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent, allow for abusive parents, rapists, mustard gas, war etc? (In RealLife, it's a highly contested issue within the Christian faith alone.) Brian's argument might've held ''some'' water if handled properly. Instead, it came out as: "Meg, a ''fictional character'' has a really crummy life; ergo a benevolent God cannot exist." This episode, it seems, was nothing more than a logic-free TakeThat not only at Christianity, but ''any'' type of faith in the unseen.
** I want to say that first off, I am a hardcore Christian. However, this is my biggest problem with most of the quotes on this page...I feel like we're all totally missing the point. Brian's argument wasn't so much "Meg is ugly, therefore, God can't exist," it was more "Meg, why do you believe/trust in a God that allows all of these horrible things to happen to you?" (Her family hating her, her friends making fun of her, etc...) I think Brian's argument makes a little more sense than we give it credit for, but at the same time, he doesn't fully understand the Christian faith either to make a statement like that...in any case, it still fits nicely on this page.
** Yeah that's what I figured, it didn't seem like he was calling Meg "ugly" or anything, to me it seemed more like he was commenting on that the fact that nearly EVERYBODY that makes eye contact with Meg considers her ugly and is repulsed by her(not to mention the way overrused gag of her being mistaken for a guy), and he uses that logic to convince her that god dosen't exist-and that was more then enough to convince her to believe Brian, and when you consider all the abuse she's gone through, Brian's argument would naturally make perfect sense to her. I didn't have the same hatred for this episode that most people do, but it STILL definitely went too far with the ridiculously over-the-top scene with Brian being demonized by everyone just for being an Atheist.
* In somewhat of a direction toward the FridgeLogic[=/=]WallBanger portion of this, the fact that Brian is an atheist was introduced and driven toward maddening levels, completely ignoring the fact that his atheism is a direct punch in the face of the admittedly inconsistent continuity anyway. Now to be fair, the dumb line about Meg being too ugly to allow a God to exist was said by an AuthorAvatar, Brian and the fact that he said something so insanely wall banging with a straight face may have been an attempt at making it funny. This didn't make it any less jarring at the fact that Brian apparently doesn't believe in God and Jesus after having ''seen them with his own eyes, '''spent an entire episode trying to convince Peter that he shouldn't try to take over for the real God''''', and on a less notable example been the victim of otherworldly/paranormal events in the past, such as his ''entire house being sucked into nothingness.'' So either the context of this episode is that the God that has been shown in the past in the show was written off as if he never existed just to make a point or one of Brian's head injuries throughout the series caused him to forget the fact that he's been ''confronted'' by God in the past.
* If we cut past all of Danny Smith's bad logic the moral of the episode was "If God exists then why does suffering exist?". The problem with that is that, at some point, nigh-everyone in a religious society thinks of this: we didn't need an entire episode just to hear the same question.
* Wait, Meg had just become a Christian in that episode. Last time I checked people who've just joined a new religion wouldn't be that good at defending it.

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*The episode where Peter leaves his jobless housewife and three kids (one of which being a baby) because he suddenly turned gay. Yes, guys, we understand that it's okay to be gay, but that doesn't give you the right to abandon all of your responsibilities without so much as a token conversation about child support. Hell, Lois even agrees that Peter didn't do anything wrong! He fucking did! He left your ass with three kids and NO WAY TO SUPPORT THEM. HE DIDN'T EVEN WAIT FOR HER TO GET A JOB SO THAT HIS FAMILY (which he should still care somewhat about because, you know, gay people aren't amoral assholes) COULD SUPPORT THEMSELVES!! YES, THATS RIGHT PETER, GO AHEAD AND JUST &^!@#&*^!$&(@#*#!$YGHQSF!!!
**Considering that it was [[RalphWiggum Peter]], they were better off without him, which [[LampshadeHanging the episode hung a lantern on]]. It had good comedic value, but it shows that the writers failed once again at preaching political correctness in a DeadBabyComedy. If he had proved ''SouthPark'' right about it just being a GagSeries, [[{{Understatement}} this Article would be a lot shorter]].
**You forgot to mention the worst parts. Peter became test subject for genetic experiments because he couldn't afford to pay for the damages a horse he bought did, almost ruining the family. SoYeah, to ruin your family and then leave them without any kind of support just because you're now gay is the right thing to do, and if you dare to say otherwise, you're a homophobe. And the most shocking thing is that everybody was putting Peter's happiness before everything, despite Peter being the cause of all the problems. I wonder why there are still so many people who says that Peter is not a blatant AntiSue.
***Some of you seem to be forgetting about Lois's billionaire father. Peter didn't need to support her, because daddy would just pay the bills.
***Did anyone forget that he was injected with ''gay person DNA''?! Did fucking ''[[{{Sonichu}} Chris-Chan]]'' write this?
***Eh, Peter's just lucky he's the main character of ''Family Guy''. [[DesignatedHero At this point, in any other show, he'd be the villain.]] No really, he would be. Just paint his skin a disgusting shade of green, put a nasty-looking sword in his hands, and you've got yourself an honest-to-badness [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Great Unclean One]].
****At this time I'm reminded of "{{Superman}} At Earth's End", a comic where guns are used to solve all the problems, and then ends with an anti-gun message. Similarly, you can't have a pro-tolerance message in an episode that makes such egregious, un-ironic use of stereotypes. Things just work a certain way, and no amount of "comedy" can make up for that.
**Lois' line "I can't change your orientation, and it'd be wrong for me to try" absolutely made NO SENSE since they DID CHANGE Peter's orientation earlier. However, [[{{Anvilicious}} banging people's head with the idea that homosexuality is not a choice was more important]].
*I simply love how Stewie suddenly takes the stance of staunch christian conservative (or perhaps christians in general, considering the show) for the sake of a temporary AuthorTract.
**Not to mention that Stewie is gay according to the {{Word of God}}
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*"Road to the Multiverse" is ten minutes of poop and fart jokes interlaced with a thin plot and several Meg-is-ugly jokes. Then, in the very end, Brian from an alternate universe wants to come back to the main universe even though he [[FridgeLogic would've already gotten the chance to stay when he traveled with his Stewie through the Multiverse and didn't take that opportunity]] only to walk off and be hit by a car. The car was so predictable and obvious and that there wasn't a single person who didn't see it coming. Worse yet, alternate Brian would've been an interesting plot for a future episode but no, they killed him off instantly, which made the last seven minutes of the show worthless.
**This is exactly why the end of the Disney segment in the episode is so bad; this show is just as anti-Semitic as Seth purports Disney to be. Yes, we all know it's ''Disney'', but don't fucking pretend that this show isn't as offensive as anything that Disney puts out.
***If it was a shot at "Uncle Walt's" anti-semitism, it wasn't a very good one. If they had an animated Walt leading the charge to kill Mort, then that would have made more sense. But there wasn't, everything was ''all'' happy-scrappy until Mort showed up. The regular characters had designs reminiscent of various Disney characters (the latest being Meg's, based off of ''The Little Mermaid's'' Ursula, which came out waaayy long after Disney's death) and it gives off the impression that the Walt Disney Corporation as a whole hates Jews. And as for Family Guy not being anti-semitic? Well, let's see: the recurring Jewish character is Mort Goldman, who is pretty much a walking-talking personification of almost every Jewish stereotype known to man, his lesser seen family are pretty much his clones, and that when Peter once put up a "scare-Jew" (i.e. a scarecrow made up to look like AdolfHitler) to scare Mort away from the house so he wouldn't borrow anymore of the Griffens' stuff, Mort runs away screaming for everyone to protect Jon Stewart ("He's our most important Jew!") from the "reincarnated Hitler". So while Family Guy isn't anti-semitic per se, it does absolutely nothing to offset/subvert Jewish stereotypes. But yes, the Disney universe was a shitty joke, there is that too.
**** This troper actually ''loved'' the Disney universe segment and considers it the series' CrowningMomentOfAwesome. But, since [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] ''constantly'' makes that stupid Disney joke (Brian at the beginning of "Movin' Out, Brian's Song", the cutaway in some episode saying that Goofy goes to Hell for being involved with 9/11, etc.), I have to agree that the end of that segment was stupid. I was expecting a meta-joke about the Disney universe being too expensive to animate, and that would be why they had to leave. Not sure if that would have been better. Though, the end of that segment was not enough to make me not like that scene, "It's a Wonderful Day for Pie" and the Herbert part were still gold.
*** The thing is though, Walt Disney wasn't actually that racist, he was actually ''less racist'' than most people of his era. The reason him being anti-semetic became a popular belief was because of [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,295141,00.html a comment Brett Butler made on Letterman.]] Brett Butler's a psychotic drug addict, and was so addicted at the time that her show went through five producers in five years.
** I thought the whole Road to the Multiverse counts as a DethroningMomentOfSuck. You can literally put all the jokes in three categories. Bowel movements, Meg is ugly, and violence. Mayor [=McCheese=] gets shot, [[spoiler:alternate universe Brian gets hit by a car (predictable enough)]], John Hinkley (Reagan's attempted assassin) painted the Sistine Chapel, and Mort the Jew gets beat to death in the Disney universe.
** Wellesely Wild's anti-theism shines through again where he says Christianity holds back science here as well.
** What was really frustrating about it was the statement that without Christianity there would not have been the Dark ages. In reality, the biggest contributor to the Dark Ages was the power vacuum created by the fall of {{the Roman Empire}}, and it was largely the culture and technology brought back to Europe by the ''Crusades'' that ended them.
**Never mind the fact that Europe =/= the entire world. While Europe was enveloped in the Dark Ages, scientific advances still continued in other places like the Far East and the Islamic Empire (which reintroduced scientific and mathematic discoveries to Europe centuries after they had been lost there).
* When they went to the world where Japan won WW2. That joke was completely racist.
* This troper, a secular humanist, found the Christianity/Dark Ages joke in very bad taste.
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[[folder: "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag"]]
*The worst part of the Episode was when Brian dates an older woman was when showed the younger girl a video of himself in ''DieHard''. It wasn't funny, and it was just another use of LimitedAnimation. Considering that this is coming from ''Family Guy'', which has shown us four minutes of Conway Twitty singing with no animation ''at all'', this can be seen as an improvement.
**The episode where Brian got involved with an actual elderly woman. You know, someone who's actually OLD and not just above 21 years old. Even though that old lady died at the end of that episode, that was treated with a lot more respect and pathos then this episode saw fit to treat a woman who was, horrors of horrors, MORE THEN FORTY YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!
**The supposed {{Aesop}} of this episode was [[BrokenAesop broken beyond repair]]. Brian berates everyone for treating him poorly for dating an older woman, pointing out the hypocrisy of younger women dating older men and younger men dating older women. So, what happens? Again, the older woman tells Brian (who tells her he feels ''horrible'' for sleeping with another, younger, woman) that he's immature and that she's too good for him. Yes, according to the writers, it's not due to traditional sex roles, or {{double standard}}s, or traditional reasons that the idea of a man dating an older woman is frowned on. No, according to this episode, it's because men are immature. [[StreetFighter OF COURSE!]] I'm not sure which sex should be offended more...
*** Even though his family's reactions were jerkassy and his girlfriend seemed to suddenly and inexplicably turn into [[TheSimpsons Grandpa Simpson]], Brian's actions in that episode were pretty heinous. He pretty blatantly decided to propose in order to spite his family's prejudices, and though he apologized for cheating on her, he phrased it in a way that made it seem as though it was a good thing because it proved to him that SHE wasn't too old for him. DethroningMomentOfSuck from both sides of the argument.
**Perhaps the worst part of this episode was the writing within it. The older woman in question is screamed at by Peter, who grabs her shirt and starts demanding her age, sending her off in tears. The family seems UTTERLY DEVOTED to destroying Brian's love life. From the perspective of one who has worked very hard for his love life, I would ''beat my own kin'' if they did that. So, Brian does a good thing, comforts her, makes her feel loved and beautiful. It's amazing, maybe Brian does have a soul. Besides, age difference isn't that bad - Brian goes back and forth between 49 and 7, so hey, whatever. So, moving on from that. The woman is actually a fairly likable character. Well, we can't have that in a one shot, can we? So, in the fastest fucking case of {{Flanderization}} I've ever seen, this woman goes from being fairly on top of things and even somewhat modern to basically 80 in mannerisms and speech processes. My mother is 50. She's not talking in 1930s lingo.
This is subjective, placed in to make her unsympathetic. Oh, and let's not forget the entry complete and utter CriticalResearchFailure - a picture is shown of the woman as a young child with her mother. Brian picks it up and comments "Huh... there's not enough stars on this flag!" in a nervous tone, implying she was born before Alaska and Hawaii were made states (1959). The woman is 50 (the episode first aired in 2009). If she's 50...and the picture shows her as a young, bipedal child with her mother (see, at least two years old, probably more)... then there WERE 50 stars on the flag...hmm. Thanks guys. I confirmed the Alaska/Hawaii thing in two minutes on TheOtherWiki. [[SarcasmMode I'm GLAD you can do the same]].
***Consider this: The entire family is ragging on her because she's "old." She's only fifty years old...In an earlier episode it was revealed that ''Peter'' is ''forty-two''. There's only eight years between them, ten between her and Lois! And ''that is what they call "old?!"''
***What's even more enraging is that Brian is about 49 in human years, which means that he's technically ''a year younger than her!'' Come ''on!''
*Lucy getting the ever-loving shit kicked out of her in "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag?" You know, I know she screwed with Charlie a lot back in ''{{Peanuts}}'' but nothing she did could you use to justify her getting kicked the crap out of her. Especially since she's a child, to make matters worse Peter actually brings up the therapy shtick she used as another reason to kick her. I dunno, maybe it's just me because I liked Lucy and don't like the concept of children being hurt... let alone a small 8-Year Old Girl all brought about [[RoadHouse a Patrick Swayze movie]] and Seth paying homage to him. Thanks Seth, I'm pretty sure Patrick would've wanted to be remembered for inspiring some idiot to beat up children.
**Not having seen the scene in particular, it sounds like a literal curb stomping, which is bad enough, but the fact that they did the same joke years before, only using Louis instead of Charlie Brown, just makes it worse. ''RobotChicken'' did something similar, but wasn't so bad, because it was so cartoonish, you could laugh at it.
**They did this joke already in ''Lethal Weapons'' (season 2), but much milder and to much better effect: Lois, in a martial arts training montage, runs to kick a football held by Lucy. The football gets yanked, Lois falls out of frame, then runs back to roundhouse Lucy, who cries. That's exactly the right amount of justice via cartoon violence that what Lucy did deserve. They ''knew'' how to do this joke right already, but have totally forgotten it since the pre-resurrection era.
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*Hey, [=MacFarlane=], we fucking get it, you hate Jews. Enough already, okay? Really seriously getting a little sick of how much we need to hear about how much you hate Jews. Honest. Don't really need to hear Stewie smarming right at the camera about how God will kick the Jews' ass for killing Jesus. Wow. Fucking seriously, we're going to go with that bit? Really? From Stewie, not from Peter, we're really going to go with "Jews killed Christ."
**But no seriously, [=MacFarlane=] averages one Jew joke per episode. The only ethnicity he goes after as much or more are the Hispanics. Seriously, fucking enough, kk.
** Several of the writers, producers and voice actors for the show are Jewish. It's more likely to be SelfDepreciatingHumour than anti-semitism, something which American Jews are hardly alien to.
*In one episode, Jesus himself (mind you a couple of episodes before said that God and Jesus didn't exist) said that all religion was crap, and surprise, Brian agrees.
**I think that part of the episode was a response to complaints of how Brian could be an atheist when he's met God and Jesus. Rather than a clever or thoughtful explanation of how Brian could maintain his atheism, Mark Hentemenn instead has Jesus say that all religion is crap because Brian can't possibly be wrong. EVER. That's right, Brian's now officially a BlackHoleSue and the universe bends to his will. Of course that doesn't explain how Jesus has superpowers but I'm sure we'll get another episode where that's explained to the most insulting extent possible.
***Also the fact that deism isn't religious, but also believes there is a God. That could have been used, but NOOOOO, the AuthorAvatar is ALWAYS right!
****Which makes no sense as Brian's won an award for his essay and was hired by the New Yorker on the strength of his writing and worked himself to the bone (to the point of taking the mayor hostage) to fight a discriminatory law. His novel is apparently pretty lousy and accidentally a remake of [[IronEagle an existing story]], but he does seem to have a history as a talented writer. Not to mention that he was being chewed out by a guy who has been almost explicitly shown to engage in date rape, statutory rape, incest and bestiality, has left many fatherless children, and also hits on his best friend's wife (and outright slept with his other one's). The rant would have made sense if it was Cleaveland or Joe making it, but Quagmire?
*****Also, one of Quagmire's points was that he has no illusions about who he is, what he wants, and what he's after, and doesn't particularly try to hide it, either. Brian, on the other hand...
****** There's a difference between admitting that you're shallow and admitting that you're a rapist.
******When it comes to creative writing, Brian just sucks, has no originality, his best work is plagiarism and his mediocre work is unintentional plagiarism.
*The [[MoralDissonance Fighting a discriminatory law by taking the mayor hostage]] one. I'm sorry; WHAT?!?!? I don't care who you are or what you believe; tell me, for the love of all things sane, you see the problem with this! Brian, trying to prevent a gay marriage ban, takes an elected official hostage at gun point; and all it takes is a talking to from Lois about he's, surprise surprise, right again to get him to give up.
**What ticks ''This'' Troper off even more? Lois believes that gays should have the right to be together, but is against gay marriage. This is a moderate position, and indeed may be the majority one in America. But what convinces her that this opinion is wrong, wrong, wrong? Seeing Brian performing his '''''ACT OF TERRORISM''''' on the news, because obviously "he feels really strongly about this." '''''What?!''''' News flash, idiot writers: lots of people "feel really strongly" about
their opinions, that has exactly ''zero'' definitive correlation to whether or not those opinions are right! To put it another way, if ''Lois'' had taken the mayor hostage to ''prevent'' gay marriage, would Brian have been so [[EasyEvangelism easily converted]] to her side, given how "strongly" she apparently believed she was right?
**Probably the worst part of that episode, for This Troper? The rape joke about Elizabeth Smart. RapeAsComedy is really toeing the line, even though this show does it constantly. But calling out the name of an ''actual'' rape victim, specifically a ''child?'' '''FUCK YOU, ASSHOLES.''' You know, I hope her ''family'' wasn't watching or anything.
*[[NostalgiaCritic ...I like to think of myself as a semi-reasonable human being, as a man of the world, so to speak, with a view somewhat grounded in comedic reality and realization. That view has been challenged. By what, you may ask?]] ''FamilyGuy''. Sweet Jebus what went wrong? It was all going so well! Then it went like ''TheSimpsons'', and each successive season got worse and worse! I persevered, oh I sat through it! If the Beatles movies couldn't break me, then certainly ''Family Guy'' wouldn't. This last season looked so harmless too. Even though every episode seemed to be composed of pure suck, there were at least moments to make up for it. But this last one... Why? Dear merciful God in Heaven, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger WHY? WHY DID CONWAY TWITTY SING FOR FIVE WHOLE MINUTES?!]] I'm...I'm ashamed to admit it...but that was the first time I turned away from a T.V. show in disgust. It was as if all [[WorseThanItSounds my senses were being raped by this single episode.]] I am a broken man... Don't cry for me, I'm already dead.
**"I'm alive! But I'm so angry, somebody's gotta pay for this!" While bad, the line was [[RefugeInAudacity so absurd and out of nowhere that I got some laughs out of that scene.]]
*''Family Guy'' has a tendency of ripping things off, shot-by-shot, word-for-word. While this effect is intentional, it comes off as greatly annoying to more than one troper. To wit:
**For me, ''FamilyGuy's'' Dethroning Moment of Suck was the "Ding Fries Are Done" song, which was an absolutely verbatim ripoff of a radio bit/viral video that had long been circulating on the Internet.
**The recreation of "Somewhere That's Green" from 'LittleShopOfHorrors''. Too much goddamn fucking filler, no gags added or anything, and all for a tired joke involving Herbert, their worst character. And not to mention the fact that Herbert is in drag in that scene. No amount of BrainBleach can wipe away the image that is now burned in my retinas.
**Adding to THAT, the show lifted, verbatim, an old joke that had been around long before the show returned from cancellation. Not a joke from any show, a "did you hear the one..." joke. The cutaway gag where Peter, dressed like a doctor, informs a husband that his wife has become a vegetable, and that he'll have to spend all his life caring for her, then follows it with "Nah, I'm just kidding, she's dead". That's probably hilarious, had you not been told that joke less than a year before the show returned from cancellation... [[DudeNotFunny Good luck telling that joke, now, and not being accused of getting it from ''Family Guy''. "Kudos" to Seth MacFarlane and pals for ripping off a source material that can't be pinpointed. Not like that's stopped them, because moment-by-moment recreations are apparently hilarious.]]
***Then there is the episode in which Peter founds his own religion. Quagmire comes to him and tells him about all the dirty things he has done. When Peter explains to him that there is no point in telling him that as there is no confession in his religion, Quagmire responds, "Are you nuts? I'm telling this to ''everyone!''" Also an old joke. It appeared before that in the third ''BlueCollarComedyTour'' movie, told by JeffFoxworthy.
*Yeesh, Meg. Where exactly it started this troper can't pinpoint (and has no real desire to look anyway), but wherever it was that Meg went from [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] teenager with self-esteem issues to punching bag qualifies as the Dethroning Moment of Suck. The fact it was done because the writers allegedly didn't know how to write for a teenage female character just makes it even more stupid. Some examples: Shot full of poison darts? Check. Thrown out of a boat, caught by fisherman, and then verbally berated? Check. Blamed and punished for everything in the series? Check yet again. Being shot POINT BLANK in the head just for greeting her father? Check and mate. And, indeed, compared to everyone else, Meg is far more likable than anyone else in the series these days.
**Agreed. I could understand it as a ''RunningGag'' (because it does make me like Meg more, because seriously, the stuff she gets put through), but Jesus, "The Road to {{The Multiverse}}" is pretty much ''the'' Dethroning Moment for me when it comes to Meg. [[spoiler:''Every single dimension'' hates her for the exact same reason: that she's not pretty enough for them ([[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]] legs in Disneyverse, Bulldog in the Dogs Rule-verse, committing seppuku in the Japanverse for being ugly and being promptly farted on. Even in the universe where Brian and Stewie see her as a sex bomb. [[ThisIsSparta What. The. Hell.]] The worst part there is they show several other women in the background and a woman who's just finished having sex with Quagmire. None come close to as hot as hot Meg]]. The shallowness really just pisses me off.
***Oh, ''God'', yes. I thought things were looking up when Meg was shown to be apparently pretty sexy in one 'verse, but then we find out she's still considered hideous? God damn you, Wellesely. ''Damn you!''
****Really, the only thing funny about the whole Meg's-ugly concept anymore is the fact that in the show's entire run, she's been voiced by two ridiculously gorgeous actresses -— Lacey Chabert and Mila Kunis, for the uninformed.
****One of the Meg's Ugly jokes that really p.o.'d this troper was when Meg was in her underwear (Which I for one enjoyed) and said to BillClinton he could have her and he went eww, and this man was in a limo with like five women who were ''WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY'' fatter than Meg's supposed to be.
*****That scene was undoubtedly intended as a Monica Lewinsky joke. Which ''might'' have been mildly funny, if the episode had aired...oh, '''EIGHT YEARS EARLIER!''' Gee, writers—why don't you throw in some O.J. Simpson jokes while you're at it? Oh, ''wait....''
***The one I hated was when she is begging to get raped, because no other man would have her, and the horrified criminal runs away in disgust.
**[[Tropers/{{Jonn}} I]] sat down for that episode telling myself, "Okay, let's see how long before The Writers bash Christians." Four minutes later, I changed the channel, noted the time for the WriterOnBoard page, and have never watched a new ''Family Guy'' again.
*The MileyCyrus episode had one that was quite disturbing. Brian asks Stewie to reprogram Miley Cyrus into being Brian's sex slave and since she's a minor, Brian is a pedophile (oh God, they're gonna make him the new Herbert!). While that's disgusting enough on its own, Brian justifies this by saying that he's 7. This only makes things worse because now [[FridgeLogic every girl Brian has dated is now a pedophile]]. While he would normally be considered 49 technically (in dog years, since one dog year equals 7 human years), he himself said he's 7 and he can't have it both ways. Either he is 49 and going after a 17 year old (which even Stewie found unacceptable) or else he's 7 and going after a 17 year old (which somehow made everything okay?) and both ways are {{squick}}y.
**Her age isn't even the whole of it. They wanted to re-program her to have sex with Brian against her free will. She may have been a robot, but the implications of rape were definitely there - her being underage only makes an already really creepy moment worse.
***Take into mind that Brian is a dog....as in not a human...[[{{Squick}} how many girlfriends has he had?]]
***What about the scene from the ''HannahMontana'' show where Miley's dad (who is played by her real father) told her to put on her wig so he could have sex with her under the notion that Hannah is not his daughter? Seriously, how many incest jokes do they have to have?
**Don't forget that the Evil Monkey is really a pretty nice guy. More than a few people claimed that was a JumpTheShark moment.
*"Stew-roids". This episode was probably just to get fans of the new, gay, Stewie (yes, they exist) to watch it when it turns out that it was a "Meg episode". But ''that's'' not the problem. Then Connie dates Chris (long story) just to make him "cool". But '''that's''' not the problem. Then Chris breaks up with Connie. But '''''that's''''' not the problem. The problem? Well, Connie "teams up" with Meg to get back at Chris, so Meg gets Neil to show an embarrassing video of Chris to get him to be "not cool" anymore, then ''the freaking principal of the school'' just jumps out of nowhere and says that ''Connie'' is now "cool" again for "getting back at Chris". But...when did Connie do anything? Meg at least gave Neil the deal. Now, does this show run on StatusQuoIsGod or not? They could have done it better, MUCH better. Bonus negative points for making Meg look like a [[PsychoLesbian lesbian creep]] near the end. (Tropers/GreatPikminFan)
**What the principal said was that Connie was popular because the guy who dethroned her had himself been dethroned. Therefore, anything he did was considered irrelevant.
***And despite the title being "Stew-roids", the whole reason he got really buffed up was to get revenge on Susie for humiliating him at the party -- and yet at no point does he ever go back to challenge her and his muscles get totally wasted. They also wasted a good opportunity to have him beat the shit out of Brian, and yet by the end of the episode his muscles waste away, having accomplished nothing -- and Brian chases him out a window and he flies away using his flappy skin.
*Without even getting into the politics, what really got me was the episode where Stewie questions the obvious PlotHole of Brian, a 7-year-old dog, having a teenaged son. Brian's response is "If you don't like it, go on the Internet and complain" (yes, I am aware of the irony). Because obviously, no matter how crappy your own writing skills are, all it takes to defend yourself is to call your opponents nerds with no life. Way to bite the hand that feeds you writers. (Tropers/{{AmuroNT1}})
**There's nothing inherently wrong with intentionally invoking the RuleOfFunny, so long as you remember that the key word is "funny".
***That moment was when I (Tropers/MetalShadowX) declared the seventh season to be the absolute worst. I'm pretty lenient on the show (Even ignoring the stupider crap listed here), but that was uncalled for; I also didn't like the other episode scenes with this "joke", but that was definitely the worst joke yet. With season 8 having no Conway Twitty segment in sight, I'd say things are looking up.
***They do the same in the episode "I Dream of Jesus". "Ha, ha! He's on the internet, and I'm in college!" Considering college students are probably one of Family Guy's biggest markets, I'm surprised how few people seem to have noticed the huge TakeThat against the target audience.
*In "Road to Germany" when Stewie sees the Nazi uniform has a [=McCain=]/Palin 08 tag on it. I don't hate this for political reasons, I hate this because this episode aired in OCTOBER of 2008. That joke would be relevant for one month and then it would seem off-putting. We know you guys are Democrats, and speaking as a Democrat I can say it makes the rest of us look terrible.
** The entire episode, really. [[DudeNotFunny It's all over the map.]]
*The episode where they travel to Texas. There's playing up stereotypes for humor, and there's presenting a direct critique of something. Both fine by themselves; ''they do not go well together''. Like bleach and ammonia. It's frightening that anyone out there is so bad at satire as to not know this; even moreso that a major network will still gladly pump the resulting cloud of toxic gas into people's homes.
** I think that this is a semi-stereotype at best. Being from Texas, I find few cowboy hat-wearing, rootin'-tootin', hicks. However, I imagine some Texans do indeed enjoy filling this stereotype while traveling to irritate other people. Sadly, it seems that quite a few non-Texans are surprised when they realize that not every Texan is a horse-wranglin', cattle-russlin', stereotype. Still, the other presumptions made by Seth and his crew are definitely below the belt.
**And then there's the pretense to get the Griffins to Texas: Stewie throws up in church after drinking too much wine and eating communion wafers, leading people to believe he's been possessed. So the ''whole town'' shows up to take Stewie away from his family to ''perform an exorcism'', and the Griffins '''leave Rhode Island'''. Never mind the fact that most church-sanctioned exorcisms are only for extreme cases -- the '''whole fucking town''' thinks that taking a child away from its family to perform a dangerous and potentially fatal religious practice based on a single instance of that child throwing up in church is '''A GOOD THING TO DO?!''' Oh, and let's not forget that while they're on the way to Texas, the Griffins learn that '''the police''' are looking for Stewie. Let me repeat that: '''the police are looking for a child because he may be possessed.''' Listen, I know it's just ''FamilyGuy'', and it's not meant to be intelligent entertainment on any level, but still... this qualifies as an Extreme DarthWiki/WallBanger in my opinion, and one of the absolute dumbest moments in television history.
***Also, considering that Stewie is like, an '''INFANT''', and infants vomit a lot, '''it makes even LESS SENSE''' that they would assume that he is possessed ''simply because he barfed'' '''AFTER EATING A LOT'''. WHAT ARE THESE MORONIC POLICEMEN ON?
***I also like that, despite the fact that the Griffins are stuck inside their house while it is surrounded by an angry mob, in the next scene they have somehow gotten into their car.
***Don't forget the fact that the Texans ''immediately'' try to execute Peter when he tells them he's retarded. Yes, Texas ''did'' execute a mentally retarded man, but he shot a cop. ''[[CriticalResearchFailure They don't try to kill retarded people for simply existing]]''.
**What annoyed me the most about the episode was Brian's short anti-Texas rant that was flirting with being a BigLippedAlligatorMoment where he notes that Texas is "A Red State Full of Right-Wing Nutjobs". Okay, [=MacFarlane=] or whoever the hell wrote this ep, I have one question for you: Have you NEVER heard of Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, or ANY OTHER GODDAMN URBAN SPRAWL IN TEXAS!? Seriously, there are some areas in Texas that are so Blue they make LA look Red. The only reason Texas is a Republican stronghold is because the suburbs around the cities tend to be more red as well as the large population nested in the Panhandle and the Guadelupe Mountains...
*"The Juice Is Loose": it was extremely dated (which they lamely tried to cover up in the intro), the jokes seemed to be stolen from a lame talk show circa 1993 and the ending was such a lame {{Shaggy Dog|Story}} moment. This is proof that if an episode can be dated BEFORE IT EVEN AIRS, it won't be long until the entire show become old and stale.
**I would like to point out that in two past episodes they made jokes that made O.J. innocent in the murder, including a news broadcast the real killer was found, and then all of a sudden he's deemed the murder again, talk about SeasonalRot.
*For [[DreadBaron me]] the final minutes of "Lois Kills Stewie" was the DMOS. The episode was (or so I thought) Stewie's final appearance, as his plans had finally succeeded. In a matter of minutes, we go from Stewie's "last hurrah" turns into a simulation. This was the breaking point, in my
opinion.
*No natter. As above, **Still the [[strike: LampshadeHanging]], correction: the '''expected''' lampshade hanging with [[DontExplainTheJoke Brian and Stewie talking about how people would be disappointed]] [[ItGotWorse only made it worse]].
*[[Tropers/{{vampireklepto}} For me]], they started to get a bad omen watching Stewie's [[VillainSong over-the-top song about world domination]]. Ironic that part of the lyrics berated ''TheSimpsons'' for [[TakeThat not being funny anymore]], when ''Family Guy'' has managed it in fewer seasons. The main problem is watching the degeneration from actual jokes to just sex and violence (watch the chicken fights in order, they start getting a lot darker) and after watching "Love Blactually" with the most annoying, preachy, self-righteous Brian I think gives [[TheSimpsons Lisa Simpson]] a run for her money, I don't have high hopes of the rest of season 7.
*I stuck by Family Guy through the first 7 seasons broadcast in the UK. Then came "I dream of Jesus". Then I saw how dependent the show had become on cutaway or recurring unfunny gags drawn out so damn long, as well as all the political stuff Seth had seeped through lately. That one episode caused me to have enough of the entire show.
**Perhaps this Christian might be looking into this a bit to deeply, but what was up with their portrayal of Jesus as an immature brat in the last half of the episode? Where did that characterization come from at all? The first half of the episode played JesusWasWayCool fairly straight, then dropped it entirely for "immature celebrity" gags featuring Jesus. And in the end, the make Peter out to be more mature than Jesus; maybe it would have been more understandable (if not arrogant) if Brian was the one lecturing Jesus at the end... but ''[[RalphWiggum Peter]]''?
*My personal BerserkButton is the episode "Prick Up Your Ears", where the students at Meg's high school take abstinence pledges instead of being taught safe sex. Now, on one level I can agree with the basic {{Aesop}} that safe sex should be taught and condoms should be used...but what really turned this episode into a [=DMoS=] for me was the implication that if you deliberately choose not to have sex, there's something seriously wrong with you. [[RapeIsOkWhenItIsFemaleOnMale Apparently, according to Lois, rape is alright when it's used as a teaching tool to demonstrate to people why they shouldn't be abstinent.]] So if I, though the freedom of choice that the episode is supposed to promote, decide I don't want to have sex, it's alright for me to be raped as a means of "enlightening" me? Yikes.
**Especially the part about abstinence not being a "reasonable choice". That's like saying you can only either stay away from cigarettes your whole life or smoke 2 cartons every day, there is no in between.
*The one where Quagmire begins to rape [[TheSimpsons Marge]] and then she gives in is a particularly bad example. Matt Groening himself was pissed and chewed [=MacFarlane=] out. Eventually even [=MacFarlane=] admitted the joke was in really bad taste.
**For me, Quagmire crossed the MoralEventHorizon when he did that. Yeah guys, go ahead and show my favorite childhood characters get raped and killed. (Tropers/{{Emperordaein}})
***It gets worse. [[RapeIsLove Marge eventually GIVES IN]]. And after doing it with her, he kills the entire Simpsons family. [[ThisIsSparta WHAT. THE. FUCK.]] [[NoJustNo IS wrong with these people]]?! Some fans do take some solemn refuge in the thought that after Maggie's distinctive pacifier sucking is heard, there is a pause before the last gunshot is heard, which some fans like to interpret as Maggie taking the gun off him and doing him in. Would be bloody glorious if that actually happened, even if it wouldn't quite make up for the previous (appalling) joke.
***In my opinion, one of the worst DarthWiki/{{wall banger}}s about that whole segment was that it could have actually made for a decent joke/sight gag - if they cut it off right before it went straight into DudeNotFunny with the aforementioned cold-blooded murder (or, if you prefer, [[RapeIsLove Marge giving in]]).
**The biggest wallbanger comes in the DVD commentary for the episode where [=MacFarlene=] goes off on a long, unfunny tangent in which he goes on a long, whiny tirade about the joke being cut for syndication, insisting it's some sort of conspiracy perpetrated by Fox because he insulted their beloved cash cow (as opposed to the fact that it was a tasteless joke involving rape, murder and infanticide) then goes on to say the joke was justified because the Simpsons had already made several (Minor, mostly in good will) jokes at Family Guy's expense.
* My. God. Even after giving up on this show forever IT STILL MANAGES TO DISAPPOINT ME. On the 61st Emmys (2009) ''Family Guy'' did a segment for the show. Can you guess what they did? Have the family argue who's going to win? Have Peter meet the nominees? Do something funny? Nope. They repeated a joke. Which joke? THE ONE THAT HAS STEWIE BEATING UP BRIAN. THE EXACT SAME JOKE. The only thing they did change was the lines. And in turn, MADE THE FACT THAT STEWIE BEATS UP BRIAN MAKE NO SENSE. Any you know what, people laughed. TV's finest writers, actors, and other people laughing at this sick excuse for a joke. I died a little inside.
*What's even more stunning than "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" is "420", where Brian basically serves as a mouthpiece for pro-pot legalization propaganda, from conspiracy theories to all the supposed wonderful benefits that society receives once it's done. Not once does the episode really suggest that
anything contesting an entry bad might happen as a result of wide-spread pot use, and the status quo is restored purely as a result of one man's greed.
** ''[[Tropers/LoneHoundoom I]] most certainly object to jokes implying that you can only enjoy [[DoctorWho Doctor]] [[HePannedItNowHeSucks Who]] if you're high.'' Not cool, man, not cool.
* [[Tropers/{{Demetrios}} I]] pretty much stopped watching the show after the episode "Family Goy". Why, you may ask? I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]].
**Bravo, Mark. You took one of the most chilling and disturbing scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' and played it for laughs (a shirtless Peter casually attempts to shoot Lois with a sniper rifle, all while his cigarette sits on the balcony ledge (and since when did they have a balcony?)). The only way that could've made a more tasteless reference to the Holocaust would be by having Mort Goldman complain about how dirty a gas chamber is. Of course, Hentemenn
will be probably read this, and think that's a great idea...
*When Quagmire gets the cat, and the other guys get annoyed and decide to shave it. We see Peter "shaving" it, actually killing it, complete with shrieks of pain from the cat, and blood spurting with each
cut, landing on Peter and everywhere else. Besides not being funny in any conceivable way, this drags Peter's character and intelligence to depths never imagined, and crossed the MoralEventHorizon. The eventual payoff at the end of the episode reinforces these new lows.
**And it is even worse when you (miraculously) make it through to the end, where Quagmire is offering $200 dollars for the information of the whereabouts of his cat. Peter grabs the money out of Quagmire's hand and says he killed the cat in a very callous tone and walks off. Credits roll. '''WHAT!!!???'''
*The episode where they make fun of Carrot Top for his alleged over-reliance on props in order to be funny...because its not like ''FamilyGuy'' uses something way too much for the purpose of comedy.
*After watching a scene where Peter listed "all the brown people you can rape" as a benefit of joining the U.S. Navy in "Saving Private Brian", I swore myself off of ''Family Guy'' forever.
*When they started doing a rape or domestic violence joke at least, oh, once an episode if not more. LOL a woman is being horribly assaulted! I like dark humor, but there's a world of difference between say, Sarah Silverman's infamous bit in ''TheAristocrats'' and in ''Family Guy'' where there's no other joke besides...a woman being raped. Or horribly beaten. And Peter's "Oh get over it, it's a cartoon!" was particularly sickening cause I'm even more offended by the laziness and cowardice of that defense than I am the actual jokes themselves.
**"[[AquaMan You shouldn't have]] [[CompleteMonster led him on.]]" I first saw that gag along with a friend that had been a victim of sexual assault. I had voiced my concerns with her about my own disdain over how Meg's abuse was being played for laughs, having been a child abuse victim myself, but that ''AquaMan'' joke was the beginning of the end. Namely, the end of watching ''Family Guy'' ever again. We found that to be the turning point, sort of like CerebusSyndrome for being incredibly distasteful. You can't just flatly mirror real-life ignorant statements for laughs. Some hate later episodes for basically saying "THIS IS A JOKE", but we hated the series far before then, when they started saying "THIS IS SEXIST/RACIST/ETC." ''and playing this ignorance for laughs.'' Like, when ''KingOfTheHill'' is doing its usual thing, you're just like, "Ha ha, Bible-belt StrawmanPolitical conservative hijinks!" When ''FamilyGuy'' tries something similar, your reaction is more like, "Ha h--wait, incredibly offensive hijinks with a touch of TruthInTelevision? DudeNotFunny." It's hard to classify this under a definitive episode, but the ''AquaMan'' joke is definitely when I first started realizing just how badly these subjects were being handled.
* Next to ''DrawnTogether'', this is the animated show that '''defines''' NegativeContinuity, but when it comes to the characters' backgrounds, you used to look for a little consistency. For most of the show, Peter was the son of an Irish-Catholic, but discovered that one of his ancestors was a black man who was enslaved by his wife's family. And since that ancestor was renamed "Nate Griffin", it is logical to assume that Nate was from Peter's father's side of the family. Even "Untitled Griffin Family History" acknowledged Nate as a member of the family. But then, in one extremely stupid episode, we discover that not only was Francis Griffin '''NOT''' Peter's father, but Peter's father was a drunk living in Ireland. So Nate's outta the picture, unless the writers pulls out of their ass an explanation that Nate went over to Ireland for some reason (which until he does makes Nate a complete waste of time). And then comes ''"Padre de Familia"'' where it turns out that not is only Peter at least three-quarters Irish, but he was actually born from a failed abortion in Mexico. So now all of a sudden, Peter is now technically Mexican and is an illegal. [[DidNotDoTheResearch Putting aside that not only do immigration laws NOT work that way]], having three biological kids and living your entire life in America would at least not make him an illegal. And he has to work with migrant workers on his father-in-law's mansion because he want to get in touch with his non-existent roots, only for a SnapBack at the end. I won't get into detail about Lois' family's changes. For the love of God ([[StrawAtheist oh, wait...]]) guys, why do you feel the need to change what little you had established?
** In ''Family Guy'', immigration laws (like everything else) work the way that would most effectively create an {{anvilicious}} [[StrawmanPolitical strawman conservative]].
* The episode "Business Guy". The episode didn't exactly do or say
anything offensive but it suffered from major plot holes, poor writing, an arbitrary resolution, and had only a few mediocre jokes. This isn't the offensive episode that ruins a show, this is the mediocre episode that makes people realize a show has run out of steam. Peter takes over Carter Pewterschmidt's company after a strip club sequence, whereupon the episode meanders along for 20 minutes (with a mediocre Quagmire joke in it) then tries to use a ''ScoobyDoo'' reference that ''Scooby Doo'' fans are sick of.
* I know it's ''Family Guy'', and it lives to be offensive, but is anyone else starting to notice that the show has a bit of a fixation on Jewish stereotypes and antisemitic gags? We have Peter reenacting scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' for laughs, an entire segment consisting of Mort Goldman coming up with dozens of ways to call Jews cheap.
** Here's something strange worth noting-- when Mort Goldman would originally appear, his large "weakling" personality was the source of comedy from him. Probably three years later after the show returned in 2005, jokes about him started to focus on his being a Jew. I am getting such a bad vibe from that shift in humor.
** Honestly, it goes beyond antisemitic jokes. There is a ton of casual racism
that's just contributing played out for laughs, especially in regard to blacks. The first few times I noticed it was from Brian which, alright, fine; Brian's a staunch progressive with a hidden, slightly racist streak inherited from his father. But then the jokes started coming from Stewie as well. And then every other character. I know the entire cast has been more or less [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into complete jackasses but when the racist jokes come so often and from every character, it starts to seem like maybe [[WriterOnBoard the writers have some issues]].
* Is it just me or has there been a lot of Robin Williams bashing lately? The cutaway in "[=McStroke=]" was lame enough, but then in "Baby Not On Board" a cutaway showed the kids in ''PatchAdams'' killing themselves over Robin's jokes (Something ''MadMagazine'' [[ItsBeenDone already did a decade earlier!]]), "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag" had ''WhatDreamsMayCome'' as one of the [=DVDs=] no one wanted to buy, and most recently in "Big Man On Hippocamus" there was a lame cutaway gag where the joke basically is "Robin isn't funny anymore". Right. [[SarcasmMode Because antisemitism, misogyny, and three minutes of Conway Twitty singing are much funnier than]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTAcw9puvY this]]. And don't think I'm complaining about all this because I'm a butthurt Robin fangirl. I'm complaining because these {{Take That}}s are unoriginal and not clever at all. My only consolation is that they haven't done a {{Gorn}}-filled animated snuff film ala ''{{Futurama}}''... yet. I wouldn't put it past them though.
* The second ''StarWars'' parody managed to be [[SoOkayItsAverage surprisingly alright]], its main flaw coming from missing out on the chance to make jokes (Missed Moment Of Funny?). The abortion joke, however, was [[DudeNotFunny just tasteless]].
* In the episode "Extra-Large Medium," the first gag of the show is Peter skating around in circles shouting "StarlightExpress" over and over. Apparently just [[ShallowParody saying the name of the thing you're making fun of]] counts as a joke now. Taking a page out of the ''SeltzerAndFriedberg'' book of comedy?
** The entire episode is a slap in the face to [[SarahPalin a certain politician]]. Subtle political satire is good, but this is just pathetic. The whole concept of the plot is mean-spirited and completely unnecessary. Said politician understandably criticized the episode for taking shots at someone who was supposed to be miles away from political crossfire. In response the actor who portrayed the character in question proceeded to defend her position and attack the politician for being hyper-sensitive and treating her son poorly. But here's the punchline-Seth backs her up. Not surprising that the actor would defend her own character (she was paid to voluntarily act, mind you), and proceed to explain that the attack was on the politician, not the child, which is not only still in poor taste, but is also a terrible excuse. Not to mention, more unlikely than an episode without an anti-Chrstian/Republican undertone. Her whole "get a sense of humor" is about as weak of an argument as they come. I dare that actor to publicly tell that to every single parent with a Downs Syndrome child, or someone who actually has the syndrome. Just think about it.
* Did anyone else {{facepalm}} after watching Lois make fun of Brian for dating an idiot in ''Whistle While Your Wife Works''? Especially since said idiot was only about as dumb Lois's husband, but much nicer, hotter and more infinitely more mentally stable and emotionally mature?
** Not just that Jillian is a much better companion than Peter, but considering that Lois knows that Brian has always loved her (Lois) since ''Brian in Love'' in Season 2 (and re-iterated in ''Play It Again, Brian''), it was downright cruel for her to mock Brian for his romantic choices. The guy is trying to preserve his friendships with you and your husband, and your marriage, by moving on and looking for someone else, and you throw it back in his face?!
* For me, another DMOS has to be what they did with Connie's character. Originally she was just the popular [[TheLibby Libby]] character who would make fun of Meg for her efforts to try to fit in with the popular kids. But nowadays she goes out her way to tease Meg even if Meg is just minding her own business, and even though Meg honestly wanted to be friends with Connie in the past. It just was fucking cruel in the "Stew-Roids" episode where Meg shows Connie the cuts she deliberately gave herself over the years as a result of Connie's cruel treatment of her when Connie asked Meg for help to make Chris "uncool". Because in later episodes if anything even after seeing how badly Meg has been hurt by her bullying (and how Meg cuts herself as a result of it) she ''still'' treats Meg like shit, if not more so.
* Ugh, the episode ''Baby Not On Board'', we all knew Peter is an idiot but at least he has some plausible reasons for it. Here it just...I don't have the words for it but man I know I couldn't be the only person who wanted to punch out Peter for his mind blowing stupidity. But no, NO, that's not the worst of it. After all the crap he puts his family through, Lois finally blows up at him for it. And then...feels ashamed when Peter ''rebuffs'' her for it? WHAT?! No! Nononononono. {{Rule of Funny}} or not, I can't give this show that one. There are just some {{Karma Houdini}} moments I can't forgive.
** [[Tropers/UberCream Someone]] should probably elaborate for those who are curious: Lois yells at him, and Peter responds with the speech John Candy delivers in ''PlanesTrainsAndAutomobiles''. Yes, the entire speech-- almost word for word. And Lois immediately forgives him.
*** And don't forget they end it by [[DontExplainTheJoke explaining the joke]] with Chris going 'haa, movie reference'. Just in case ya didn't get it. DID YA GET IT?! He's stealing a monologue word-for-word from an infinitely better and funnier movie!...''{{Futurama}}'' can't return fast enough in [[Tropers/TheDogSage my]] opinion.
* For me, the Dethroner came in ''Padre de Familia,'' when, in a cutaway gag, it's revealed Peter didn't even know what 9/11 was until months after...he walked in, saw Lois watching the coverage with tears in her eyes, and he ''laughs and says it must be a woman pilot.'' [[DudeNotFunny THAT'S NOT F*CKING FUNNY!]]
** You'd think [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] would hold more respect for the victims of 9/11, considering he was almost one of them.
***Objection, [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] did not write that episode. Let's give the guy some credit, and assume he didn't read the script until after. But, yeah...that joke should have been vetoed quick.
*** Overruled. He voices two of the main characters; of course he read the script beforehand.
* For me, the DMOS showed up in the episode "No Chris Left Behind" when the family went to see the Nutcracker and Stewie turned to Meg and said "You know Meg, female ballet dancers are famous for anorexia and bulimia, and uh...seems to work out for them. So, hintidy hint hint." Um...ok I know Meg bashing is a RunningGag for this show but that wasn't even funny. Heck the first time I saw that part in the episode I felt disgusted. In part because I've had anorexia myself in the past, and looking back on it I
can be only hope that I don't ever go down that road again. Telling Meg, who was just minding her own business, that she should develop an eating disorder...could he have acted any more like a unlikeable {{jerkass}}? Oh, and that's not the first time...he also deliberately picked at Jillian's issues with her weight and the knowledge that she has bulimia in order to get her to throw up all so he could take one of her teeth to give to the tooth fairy. And Jillian has always been genuinely nice to Stewie! Oh, and basically just the fact that Stewie was getting his daily lulz out of something as potentially life-threatening as having an eating disorder.
** That was very off putting to me as well. Another thing about the situation with Jillian's eating disorder that upset me was Brian's way of dealing with it. His girlfriend is causing serious harm to herself, but Brian doesn't do anything to help her because it makes her look "so hot" to him. What a selfish jackass.
* I think we should start listing all the worst {{Flanderization}} moments that have degraded Lois from a [[MamaBear loving mother and wife]] to a abusive shrew:
** "Go Stewie Go" had Lois trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, giving the [[DarthWiki/WallBanger wall banging]] excuse that Meg's boyfriend was trying to "rape" her when Meg caught them in the act, and then having the gall to insist that she could easily steal him away from her daughter if she wanted to during her "apology". Wasn't this [[CompleteMonster repulsive]] woman a mother?
** "Peter-assment" was an alright episode, as it
made its own entry.
*Explain ''why''
Peter out to be a much nicer guy than most episodes do (even counting him deciding to assault his boss), however, it finished off Lois as a likeable character for me...namely "It doesn't count as sexual harrasment if it's a DethroningMomentOfSuck.

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woman on a man"...so let me get this straight. Men don't care if someone touches them if it's a woman, because we enjoy it no matter what, even if we really can't stand the person, and we are already deeply devoted to the woman we love? And because of that, it doesn't count as sexual harrasment? Coupled with her just ignoring the fact that Meg was, in fact, sexually harrased by a teacher...for god's sake, I never wanted a character to be permanently killed off so much.
*** I'd say it's worse than that: some have noticed that Meg isn't getting as much abuse this season as before (maybe someone's been reading this page). This was, in a way, the case here, but the conversation was so obviously meant to set up either Peter or Lois laughing at and insulting Meg that it was as if the writers figured that if they can't abuse Meg, they're not going to try to write for her.
*** Oh, Lois had an even ''worse'' moment in that episode! When Peter's boss called him to harass him over the phone, Peter begs Lois to tell her (his boss) he's not home. Lois calls him a baby, then gets back on the phone and says "Peter's in the shower...touching himself to your picture." All said with a smile on her face. So Peter has no choice but to take the call. ''What the fucking hell, woman?!''
**** The level of general CharacterDerailment is at the point of no return: I was aware that what Lois did was actually quite heinous, but I just couldn't feel bad about it. Considering that the last time Peter accused someone of sexual assault was his '''doctor''' for a '''digital rectal exam''', it was impossible for me to feel empathy for him.
***** One must remember in that episode, when Peter walked in the kitchen looking traumatised, Lois asks what's wrong, to which Peter says, "I was raped." Though it's true that Peter wasn't raped, one MUST remember that Lois's first reaction to this statement is that she '''LAUGHS!''' WTF Lois?!?
*** There's also the massive gap in logic that Lois doesn't seem to care that another woman is trying to seduce her husband.
** Lois basically telling Meg that she should kill herself in the episode "Stew-Roids". At one point in the episode Lois attempted to comfort Meg who was ''denied the right to attend a party Chris was holding at their own house''. However, Lois gives up trying to comfort Meg after 45 minutes, gives her a Sylvia Plath novel, a bottle of Ambien and leaves her to her misery, saying "whatever happens, happens." All because she couldn't be bothered to spend any more of her precious time on Meg. That moment pretty much made Lois out to be the ultimate [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] in my eyes.
** In the episode "Peter's Daughter" when Meg thinks she's pregnant, she refuses to have an abortion. Lois suggests Meg consider drinking and smoking a lot to cause a miscarriage, but not to "wimp out halfway through", because Lois ended up with Chris.
*** Not to mention when Peter's actions put Meg in a coma Peter starts to feel bad and rethink how he's been treating Meg. And what does Lois tell Peter when he says he feels like he never treated Meg as well as he should have? "Oh, don't be too hard on yourself, Peter. We all do things that we're not proud of." It's just the idea that she basically doesn't think the fact that Peter put Meg into a coma is that big of a deal. [[BerserkButton F*ck THAT! It IS a big f*cking deal!]]
* The episode that consisted of Brian getting a pilot published which was then butchered by TV execs with a subplot of Stewie suffering a severe head injury and Chris and Meg have to cover it up while he's unconscious. The jokes ranged from mediocre to DudeNotFunny. I was horrified that they tried to cover up Stewie's injury by throwing him under the car while it was pulling out, and the incest joke that was included in Brian's butchered show was disgusting.
** It's completely understandable to have a subplot where a character gets knocked out and the others pretend he's okay, but when it's an ''infant'' that's knocked out, and the family shows callous disregard of the injury to the point of negligence ([[NauseaFuel maggots growing on exposed brain matter, a goddamn raccoon gnawing at the wound]]), it just goes from being in bad taste to becoming completely, unrepentantly horrible.
** I would like to to point out that was Peter who threw Stewie under that car, because he wanted to make Lois think she was behind Stewie's injury for no good reason and and that Meg was going to take Stewie to hospital but Peter stopped. This leads to another example of Lois' [[CharacterDerailment character derailment]] when she immediately suggests a cover-up, just as Peter had been doing.
* The episode where Brian got angry over the Army being allowed to try and recruit at Meg and Chris's high school was it for me. I'd had enough of him at that point.
* Peter shooting the Native American girl (who was about to be ''[[RapeAsComedy raped]]'' no less) in "April In Quahog". Might as well rename the show to ''Misogyny Guy'' at this point.
** There's also when it's implied Meg strangled a cat to death. Seriously, '''[[CharacterDerailment Meg???]]''' Great, now she's the ''FamilyGuy'' equivalent of [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Evil Manga Kaworu]].
* The episode "Dog Gone". It was pretty much just scenes of dogs getting mutilated and killed horribly, paired with an animal rights {{aesop}}. It also shows that Brian's family would love to kill and eat him to see what he tastes like, but after hearing (falsely) that he died, they still manage to be sad about it. That was the episode that ruined the rest of the series for me.
** I seriously couldn't enjoy any part of that episode. Also, I found it weird that at the town meeting, Brian was demanding that everyone stop eating meat, even though he's a dog ... an animal that is, by nature, carnivorous. Even today, a dog's diet consists mainly of meat or meat based products and Brian's always been shown eating meat throughout the series, so from where did this come?
* This may not qualify, since it was ''technically'' on ''TheClevelandShow'', but it was a crossover episode, and the [=DMoS=] moments apply to ''Family Guy'' characters. So in this episode, Cleveland finds out that his ex-wife Loretta had died, and he doesn't know why he is so sad about it, considering that he hated her in every way possible. This seems like a decent emotional plot to an episode, except for the cause of death. Quagmire travels down to Cleveland's new (old) town to tell Cleveland that [[KarmaHoudini Peter]] had accidentally dropped a T-Rex skeleton (don't ask) on Cleveland's house from Family Guy, where Loretta was living. She was in the bathtub and fell out of the house in that silly way Cleveland did a lot, except she broke her neck when the tub hit the ground. Instead of calling an ambulance, Peter stood there and laughed at her "gross boobs." This was a horrible thing to do, even for Peter.
** Oh, AND Quagmire took Loretta's dead body, put it in a French Maid costume, and then ''had sex with it'' before driving it to Cleveland's for a proper burial.
* At the end of the episode ''FOX-y Lady'', Lois reveals that she no longer works for FOX, with no explanation given to how or why, then she gives a piss poor [[LampshadeHanging excuse]] that [[ViewersAreMorons no one cares]], to make up for the writers' inability to properly end the episode. As a writer, it's your job to atleast [[HandWave attempt]] to write a proper ending.
*The 150th episode begins with another Brian and Stewie episode. Brian eats Stewie's poo. And washes it down with Stewie's puke. Then wipes Stewie with his tongue. {{Squick}} does not even begin to describe it.
**For me, it was Brian trying to pierce Stewie's ear, and getting the pin lodged inside his ear canal and getting it stuck...I mean, ''my GOD''.
**At the end of the episode Brian appears to say "I hope you enjoyed this very special episode." This merely served as adding insult to injury.
** There was also the incredibly hamfisted character drama between Stewie and Brian, especially Brian being suicidal which comes out of nowhere and is done in the most eye rollingly bad fashion imaginable. And then afterwards Brian and Stewie proclaim that they're best friends and they love each other...which makes no sense when just a few minutes earlier, Stewie made Brian eat his poop and outright said he did it just to see if he could get Brian to do it.
** I was excited to hear that the episode was supposed to have no random cutaway scenes. I wanted to see if Family Guy would be able to stand on its own without them, and boy was I not surprised. It was a 45 minute long {{bottle episode}}, taking place entirely in a bank vault. The other fifteen minutes was just old/unaired footage. Cheapest milestone event EVER.
** The episode did not even contain humor, nor make an attempt to. In a comedy show, they didn't even try to do anything funny, or even very entertaining.
** It was like they were just trying to see if they could piss off everyone watching the show...
** Considering the episode upped Brian's Sueness to previously unheard levels, brought Stewie IMMENSELY OOC, focused it solely on those two, I have a feeling it was more of a {{take that}} to everyone who complained.
**The only episode I turned off due to sheer boredom with it all, and I can't be the only one
* The episode "Quagmire's Dad" takes the Brian hate to a new level with the blatant, unprovoked one-sided "fight" between Brian and Quagmire (who I'd already lost respect for because of his TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Brian), not to mention the subsequent death threat.
** The entire plot of the episode was cringe worthy, it starts off with the portrayal of an EasySexChange that is PlayedForLaughs and {{Squick}} for the entirety of the episode. [[DidNotDoTheResearch The sex change is shown to not only change sex but do everything else as well.]] I believe the character in question even became shorter due to the operation as she is seen in heels the rest of the episode. No one in the episode sides with transsexuals, they just seem to have varying degrees of disgust regarding the whole situation. Quagmire admitting he just wants his dad to be happy is the closest thing. To top it all of, there wasn't even a real ending, Brain and Quagmire fight and then Brain says "I fucked your dad". No resolution, No {{Aesop}}, just "Hey look! Isn't this gross?"
** This episode gets frickin' worse: Lois and Peter. I'm perfectly fine with Peter being an insensitive douche but Lois is Brian's friend. I mean I know his plots are boring but they totally treated him like garbage and chased him out and then laughed and laughed about how he was dating a transsexual instead of breaking it to him gently. Peter maybe but not Lois. [[DudeNotFunny And especially not after an episode where we learn Brian was contemplating suicide. My god these writers have lost all sense of shame and decorum.]]
** This episode shows Brian's worst descent from [[OnlySaneMan the likable voice of reason]] to UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, and then enters outright {{jerkass}} territory towards the end of the episode. He starts out needy and harbours [[SmallNameBigEgo unhealthy levels of self-importance]] when Lois isn't on-board with his every move. Upon meeting Ida, he forces a mention of the pretentious-sounding seminar he's attended to strike up a conversation, and continues to label himself a "writer" despite recent episodes showing his [[GiftedlyBad woeful ineptitude]]. Brian makes out with Ida, and presumably reach fourth base in Ida's hotel room. Upon his return home, he's pissed that Lois is unable to show genuine interest in his seminar (did he ask anyone else what they'd be up to?), but is excited to mention the woman he met last night. Sure, Lois' reaction to the photo is [[CharacterDerailment uncharacteristically harsh]], but when Brian hears from Stewie about Quagmire's (as-yet-unnamed) father having undergone gender reassignment surgery, he reacts just as brutally (and silences [[ButtMonkey Meg]] when she ''does'' ask him about the seminar). Upon {{the reveal}}, Brian's disgust is a [[{{Understatement}} protracted]] VomitIndiscretionShot that was presumably meant by the writers to appear {{squick}}y, but if we could all take a moment to consider the long-running and [[ElephantInTheLivingRoom unignorable]] quirk in the series' run of {{interspecies romance}} Brian has encountered: Ida may have a vagina that has been surgically constructed from her inverted penis, but Brian is a freakin' ''DOG''! Brian has no right to be so vomit-inducingly disgusted (or require thorough scrubbing afterward) when he discovers that his partner was not born female, when he isn't even the same species as her. To top it, yelling to Quagmire, "I fucked your dad" confirms his unwarranted prejudice, and any remaining shred of sympathy dissolves hereon. [[SarcasmMode Way to go, Brian. A real mature retort there]].
*** Sounds like another fail parody of a 90's pop reference. The Crying Game at least was treated well by ''RobotChicken''.
** Along with all this, let's not forget that Brian is the victim here, and he didn't even do anything wrong. ''He didn't know that was Quagmire's father''. And Quagmire's righteous indignation and beating of Brian is especially hypocritical when you consider the fact that there are probably hundreds of people who'd be far more justified in beating '''him''' half to death for raping them and/or their loved ones. Or maybe one of those children he's fathered, but never sees, could give him a good beating.
*** Me personally, this was the episode where I gave up on Quagmire. Yes, I could agree with some of what he said in "Jerome is the New Black" (even IF it made Brian cry), but '''senselessly beating the crap out of somebody who had no idea of what he did was wrong, and didn't EVEN want to fight back (and was RUNNING AWAY IN FEAR)''' is... just... WOW. Seriously, if there a REASON for causing friction between Quagmire and Brian, ok, fine. ...but god damn, Seth...
**** The entire reason of Quagmire beating Brian makes no sense to me. Is it normal practice in {{Eagleland}} to attack your ugh... mother's boyfriend? It looks like they just thought it would be cool make Glenn beating Brian. But [[ConfusingMultipleNegatives it's not just not funny]] it's not even an attempt to be funny. It's just horrible.
* "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". If they were going for RefugeInAudacity, they failed, because [[SomebodyElsesProblem that is]] ''[[SomebodyElsesProblem exactly]]'' [[SomebodyElsesProblem how if works in]] RealLife. It's disturbing to watch and made me feel sick.
** The joke itself was pretty funny (Ha, Dr. Seuss wrote a book named "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". This makes no sense, why would someone write such book for children? Thats makes me laugh) ManateeGag just ruined it. It didn't add anything but disturbing context.
** [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi I]] was really shocked when I first witnessed that cutaway, so nowadays, I would change the channel for a few seconds. They could've thought of a less painful cutaway to fill 22 minutes?
* All the put downs towards women in "The Splendid Source" literally made this troper say, "screw you" to her television.
** Seconded. I had given up on Family Guy, but decided to give IT one more chance. I thought this episode was kind of funny. Then I got up to the point where Peter is in the room with the smartest people in the room, and smugly comments, "Not a lot of women." Well, this woman is smart enough to skip this show and its lazy, misogynistic writers.
* I happen to be politically conservative, and swore off ''Family Guy'' after about seven seasons' worth of straw man arguments. Stewie in a Nazi uniform with a "[=McCain=]/Palin" button? Check. Peter repeating "We should bomb Iraq" at the 9/11 memorial? Check. I literally threw my ''Family Guy'' DVDs away.
** Dude, Tropers/MacPhisto is a borderline '''MARXIST''', and even he is disgusted by Seth's endless left-wing strawmanship (gives the rest of us a bad name). I believe that Sarah Palin is the worst thing to happen to this country since it was founded, and even I think "comparing-Republicans-to-Nazis" is both in bad taste and incredibly stupid.
* "Patriot Games", home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and the infamous "Shipoopi" scene. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.
* The episode "Partial Terms of Endearment" (Unaired by FOX) made me so disappointed and disturbed. Not like I have anything to do with pro-life, but somehow they managed to convince me that probably they won't do abortion. I thought "Oh, it's like season finale, maybe they decided to add new character to family with hilarity and heartwarming ensuing. That must be great, [[TheScrappy even if it won't]] things can't get worse" [[StatusQuoIsGod but no]].
** What's even more offensive is the way Peter keeps trying to induce an abortion on Lois.
** It gets even worse when Peter, for the sole purpose of providing a counter argument, is persuaded to become pro life after a 30 second video clip, even by his standards of stupidity, that's too ridiculous. Especially when he went from trying to kill the baby several times to being against abortion in the event of incest, genetic disorders, and even rape. What the fuck?
*** This is made even worse, because abortion is a serious topic, and having the [[StrawmanPolitical dumbest character on the show become the anti abortion strawman]] for no reason is completely offensive to a serious issue.
* This is going to be controversal: In one episode, Peter gets shipwrecked and Brian becomes Lois' new husband. We see that Brian has sexual interest in Lois, but she refuses to do youknowwhat, even though he is a way better father than Peter. In the end, Lois is together with Peter again and NOW she tells Brian that sie did wanted to move their beds together, elaborating on what kinds of things she would have liked to do with him. Don't get me wrong, dog-on-woman is creepy and just gross. But do you really have to tease him with this? Goddammit, he got your daughter a date with a famous sports reporter (which had one of the few funny lines in this episode BTW)! It just feels like she was saying "Yeah, you were nice, but I don't feel like you should be rewarded for it. So FUCK YOU!" This scene makes me want to pay somebody to do a Flash animation in which Lois gets repeatedly stabbed with a rusty knife.
*"Go Stewie Go". The episode was basically justifying Lois and her [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Wallbanging]] motivation of trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, being so selfish to ignore the fact that this was apparently the first normal guy Meg has ever dated (which the episode also goes out of its way to exaggeratedly point this out). Does she take a moment to respect her daughter? (or her husband, [[NegativeContinuity but she's already cheated on him before]], [[SoYeah so...]]) No! She just continues on in her already {{Scrappy}} {{Flanderization}}. [[KarmaHoudini And she gets off the whole ordeal]] with giving a simple (and horrible) apology to Meg and Peter ([[SarcasmMode wait ''silly me'']] she didn't apologise to Peter, [[WallBanger '''she blamed him''' for the whole thing!]]).
**The A-plot of "Go Stewie Go", I understand they were trying to do "Tootsie", but seriously, all they did was replace "soap opera" with "kids' show." That's it, that's all it it was, other than the "band aid" gag, there was ZERO originality.
**Peter exhibiting incestuous attraction towards Meg in the episode "Go Stewie Go" was downright disgusting and made this troper rather uncomfortable, especially when he made Meg kiss him on the lips. Given that Peter is already filling in the verbal and physical abuse aspects of being an [[AbusiveParents abusive parent]] we can now add sexual abuse as well!
**But the ultimate [=DMoS=] of the episode was the bar scene. [[FridgeLogic Did Brian just try and hit on a baby girl?]] It may
have been cut due to not being signed. If yours Stewie in drag, sure, but [[CompletelyMissingThePoint the point of the costume was cut, feel free to add it back in as long as it complies with fool the above rules.producers that he was ''A ONE YEAR OLD GIRL!'']] Wouldn't Brian ''also'' think that this is [[{{Squick}} a ONE YEAR OLD's hand]] that he's trying to place on his ''[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean other tail?]]''
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'''[[ThisIsGonnaSuck Well, here it is.]] [[MostTriumphantExample The worst offender of the worst offenders.]] [[SarcasmMode Enjoy.]]'''
* The episode can basically be described as an anti-theist ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.- SNES Master KI
** Not to mention the above quote of "her very existence proves no benevolent force exists" is said with a complete straight face. It's not meant as a joke. It's not meant as an insult to her. It's meant as a fact. Danny Smith is the one that is the creator of this. FridgeLogic applies and means that he's therefore a non-benevolent individual that hates everyone and everything. I'll be completely honest, I watch ''Moral Orel'' and laugh at its portrayal of 'straw Christians'. Mostly because I know that most of them aren't like that, and it's a small vocal minority. But if the people who make the show want to focus on them so and empower them, it's their choice to do so. But this show, it truly hurt me and hurt my feelings. But then I've noticed that ''Family Guy'' has become more and more about being a mouth piece for far-left liberal and atheist beliefs and less about being funny. Really, if you're going to have a show be a mouthpiece, stop saying it's just for jokes, and say what it is: [[SouthPark your own personal propaganda machine.]]
*** I always saw the Meg statement as an extension of The Writer's general misogyny, interpreting "Meg" as basically "any woman who isn't hot". In this way, the statement makes [[InsaneTrollLogic vaguely more sense]], but [[BeyondTheImpossible becomes so much more disgusting as a result]].
*** I think Brian shows his true colors here. He insults Meg for being ugly... this coming from a dog. I don't know what happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but Brian apparently doesn't care. What he sees as "ugly", is totally irrelevant to God because He created what He believes is actually good. It's also worth noting that Brian completely disregards Meg's Christian messages as a whole. Whether or not you agree with a religion, any at all really, a lot of them have genuinely good messages of not stealing, not lying, and so forth. Most people of any religious affiliation (including the non-religious) would probably attest to this. Furthermore, Brian comes off as a HUGE hypocrite when he criticizes Meg for being some "crazy, outspoken, conversion-happy Christian", but it turns out that it's okay for him to convert her into an atheist. [[SarcasmMode Man I love double standards.]]
** Oh thank you for seeing the exact same problem I saw. The argument isn't even an attempt at logic, it's just "If God existed, he would've made Meg pretty." To sum up, if God existed then the atheistic creator of the cartoon would've have drawn a single character in an attractive manner. Dear Krishna, Mr. [=MacFarlane=]! Does he actually consider that a realistic reason to not believe in a God? The strangest part is that Brian's statement is accepted as a reasonable argument and the entire book burning is put to a halt and all the townspeople, who had started behaving like Nazis after becoming more religious, go back to being normal.
*** Similar to how most atheists won't spend their entire time trying to prove that everyone who is religious is an idiot Nazi and most atheists are actually quite fine with people practicing whatever religion makes them happy. But Danny Smith is the exception that proves the rule.
**** As an atheist, I was still somehow offended. It was either going far beyond the realms of parody in terms of portraying Christians, or it was the whole bringing great shame to atheists everywhere. It was just plain painful to watch.
***** The whole town converts back instantly too. Apparently Meg's existence is a pretty strong argument.
****** The really ridiculous thing is that in early seasons Brian was at least semi-religious. He had a Bible handy at times ("And the Lord said, Go Sox," in response to someone wondering what the bible verse people frequently referenced at ballgames was) and he was the only one who recognized the plagues when Peter made himself a false god, slapping Peter and declaring [[ThisIsSparta "God. Is. Pissed."]]
* That episode doesn't even pass the FridgeLogic test - God and Jesus are characters in the show, as is the Grim Reaper! Brian's venturing into FlatEarthAtheist territory saying that God doesn't exist in a universe where God can be found picking up women at the bar, all for the sake of being a mouthpiece. Also, as a liberal agnostic who used to like ''FamilyGuy'' for totally non-political reasons, I've just gotta comment that sharing his world views doesn't make the recent AuthorTract format any less preachy or condescending. The show just plain isn't funny anymore.
** Crap, at the end of the episode, it even showed that Brian's hypothesis that even though God doesn't exist (except that he does on the show), the universe is an amazing and wondrous place is wrong, as the universe was actually a molecule in the lamp on Adam West's nightstand.
** Wasn't there an episode where Meg became pretty and at the end of the episode it was concluded that being pretty wasn't good for her and she switched back to being ugly of her own free will? Which means that Meg choosing to not be pretty means there isn't a God because if there was a God he would've gone out of his way to interfere with her free will and force her to be attractive. HeadDesk, HeadDesk, HeadDesk.
* Not to mention that they managed to get the entire ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' cast to cameo and barely used them in the weakest guest appearance comedy yet on the show. I had all but given up on the show for a while, but being a TNG fan decided to sit for this one, my blood pressure steadily increasing as it became increasingly obvious that I was subjected effectively to a bait-and-switch (though I don't blame Fox for promoting the cameo, given what a train wreck the entire episode became).
** The first line of the episode implied that ''StarTrek'' convention-goers rarely see sunlight. Guess they wanted to pull out the fresh material right away.
* For the first half of the episode it seems to explicitly set up the moral that you shouldn't discriminate against someone for their faith or lack of one, or that maybe Meg just happened to take her religious belief a little too far... but nope! According to FamilyGuy, Christianity = BAD and Atheism = GOOD.
** That was the same aesop they seemed to be setting up for the episode "Familiy Goy". If I remember correctly, it ended with Jesus saying "[[BrokenAesop Six to one, they're [all religions] all complete crap]]".
** Either that or he's going with the flow of the [[{{Anvilicious}} overly passionate]] young people who [[AcceptableTargets blame religion for everything that's wrong with the Universe]]. Either way it's bad.
* Let's put it this way: this episode was so bad that ''even Seth'' had to eventually apologize for just how blatantly ''stupid'' this episode was in Jerome is the New Black (Quagmire's [[http://www.hulu.com/watch/111154/family-guy-quagmire-goes-off brutal tirade]] against Brian, that many consider Glen's CrowningMomentOfAwesome). This is the same man who approved "Prom Night Dumpster Baby" and yet ''THIS'' was the thing he apologized for. Seriously, it's that bad.
** The worst part. The single worst part of all of this... is that at the end of the episode, where someone calls out Brian, FINALLY, someone calls his bullshit, he comes home crying...and Stewie comforts him and tells him it's okay and not to worry about it. Brian has always been Stewie's first target. Sure, there's some serious FoeYay, but he ALWAYS goes the hell after Brian. And he comforts him. Comforts him and removes that nagging doubt that he's not a complete and utter failure of a character. [[INeedAFreakingDrink Someone get me a beer...]]
* The biggest irony of this whole mess is that Brian's speech at the end of the episode was ''supposed'' to be his CrowningMomentOfAwesome. Instead it wound up here.
* One has to wonder what the point of this episode was: was it meant to turn Christians into atheists? Make atheists shun their friends and family if they believed in, well, ''anything?'' Were we supposed to ''agree'' with Brian and admit that the majority of Americans are evil idiots because they believe in something? WHAT. WAS. THE. POINT?
* The reason why Meg became a Christian in the first place was because her life was starting to ''really'' suck. In other words Danny Smith arrogantly assumed that the ''only reason'' religion exists is because peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then...never mind the fact that Brian's big argument that converts the whole town to atheism is "Peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then." So, um, the exact same thing except with atheism. Not much a difference, is it?
** It also implied that the only reason people believe there isn't a God is because people's lives suck. Not because atheism is what makes sense to some people or anything. Of course not. It simply must be that all atheists are what they are because the God they don't believe in is a jerk. This episode made this atheist want to scream.
* This atheist was extremely offended that the episode portrayed Christians as if they were total morons. This is not the 13th fucking century, very few theists are that radical; not all of them are going to try to convert you or run you out of town. Have some class.
* It didn't help that the only Christians they portrayed are the vocal, extreme minority. Yes, some Christians still practice book burning but the same logic can be applied to everything: some men cheat on their wives so does that make all men evil? No.
* ''Possibly'', Brian's argument is what Christians refer to as the "problem of pain": why would God, who is Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent, allow for abusive parents, rapists, mustard gas, war etc? (In RealLife, it's a highly contested issue within the Christian faith alone.) Brian's argument might've held ''some'' water if handled properly. Instead, it came out as: "Meg, a ''fictional character'' has a really crummy life; ergo a benevolent God cannot exist." This episode, it seems, was nothing more than a logic-free TakeThat not only at Christianity, but ''any'' type of faith in the unseen.
** I want to say that first off, I am a hardcore Christian. However, this is my biggest problem with most of the quotes on this page...I feel like we're all totally missing the point. Brian's argument wasn't so much "Meg is ugly, therefore, God can't exist," it was more "Meg, why do you believe/trust in a God that allows all of these horrible things to happen to you?" (Her family hating her, her friends making fun of her, etc...) I think Brian's argument makes a little more sense than we give it credit for, but at the same time, he doesn't fully understand the Christian faith either to make a statement like that...in any case, it still fits nicely on this page.
** Yeah that's what I figured, it didn't seem like he was calling Meg "ugly" or anything, to me it seemed more like he was commenting on that the fact that nearly EVERYBODY that makes eye contact with Meg considers her ugly and is repulsed by her(not to mention the way overrused gag of her being mistaken for a guy), and he uses that logic to convince her that god dosen't exist-and that was more then enough to convince her to believe Brian, and when you consider all the abuse she's gone through, Brian's argument would naturally make perfect sense to her. I didn't have the same hatred for this episode that most people do, but it STILL definitely went too far with the ridiculously over-the-top scene with Brian being demonized by everyone just for being an Atheist.
* In somewhat of a direction toward the FridgeLogic[=/=]WallBanger portion of this, the fact that Brian is an atheist was introduced and driven toward maddening levels, completely ignoring the fact that his atheism is a direct punch in the face of the admittedly inconsistent continuity anyway. Now to be fair, the dumb line about Meg being too ugly to allow a God to exist was said by an AuthorAvatar, Brian and the fact that he said something so insanely wall banging with a straight face may have been an attempt at making it funny. This didn't make it any less jarring at the fact that Brian apparently doesn't believe in God and Jesus after having ''seen them with his own eyes, '''spent an entire episode trying to convince Peter that he shouldn't try to take over for the real God''''', and on a less notable example been the victim of otherworldly/paranormal events in the past, such as his ''entire house being sucked into nothingness.'' So either the context of this episode is that the God that has been shown in the past in the show was written off as if he never existed just to make a point or one of Brian's head injuries throughout the series caused him to forget the fact that he's been ''confronted'' by God in the past.
* If we cut past all of Danny Smith's bad logic the moral of the episode was "If God exists then why does suffering exist?". The problem with that is that, at some point, nigh-everyone in a religious society thinks of this: we didn't need an entire episode just to hear the same question.
* Wait, Meg had just become a Christian in that episode. Last time I checked people who've just joined a new religion wouldn't be that good at defending it.
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[[folder:"Family Gay"]]
*The episode where Peter leaves his jobless housewife and three kids (one of which being a baby) because he suddenly turned gay. Yes, guys, we understand that it's okay to be gay, but that doesn't give you the right to abandon all of your responsibilities without so much as a token conversation about child support. Hell, Lois even agrees that Peter didn't do anything wrong! He fucking did! He left your ass with three kids and NO WAY TO SUPPORT THEM. HE DIDN'T EVEN WAIT FOR HER TO GET A JOB SO THAT HIS FAMILY (which he should still care somewhat about because, you know, gay people aren't amoral assholes) COULD SUPPORT THEMSELVES!! YES, THATS RIGHT PETER, GO AHEAD AND JUST &^!@#&*^!$&(@#*#!$YGHQSF!!!
**Considering that it was [[RalphWiggum Peter]], they were better off without him, which [[LampshadeHanging the episode hung a lantern on]]. It had good comedic value, but it shows that the writers failed once again at preaching political correctness in a DeadBabyComedy. If he had proved ''SouthPark'' right about it just being a GagSeries, [[{{Understatement}} this Article would be a lot shorter]].
**You forgot to mention the worst parts. Peter became test subject for genetic experiments because he couldn't afford to pay for the damages a horse he bought did, almost ruining the family. SoYeah, to ruin your family and then leave them without any kind of support just because you're now gay is the right thing to do, and if you dare to say otherwise, you're a homophobe. And the most shocking thing is that everybody was putting Peter's happiness before everything, despite Peter being the cause of all the problems. I wonder why there are still so many people who says that Peter is not a blatant AntiSue.
***Some of you seem to be forgetting about Lois's billionaire father. Peter didn't need to support her, because daddy would just pay the bills.
***Did anyone forget that he was injected with ''gay person DNA''?! Did fucking ''[[{{Sonichu}} Chris-Chan]]'' write this?
***Eh, Peter's just lucky he's the main character of ''Family Guy''. [[DesignatedHero At this point, in any other show, he'd be the villain.]] No really, he would be. Just paint his skin a disgusting shade of green, put a nasty-looking sword in his hands, and you've got yourself an honest-to-badness [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Great Unclean One]].
****At this time I'm reminded of "{{Superman}} At Earth's End", a comic where guns are used to solve all the problems, and then ends with an anti-gun message. Similarly, you can't have a pro-tolerance message in an episode that makes such egregious, un-ironic use of stereotypes. Things just work a certain way, and no amount of "comedy" can make up for that.
**Lois' line "I can't change your orientation, and it'd be wrong for me to try" absolutely made NO SENSE since they DID CHANGE Peter's orientation earlier. However, [[{{Anvilicious}} banging people's head with the idea that homosexuality is not a choice was more important]].
*I simply love how Stewie suddenly takes the stance of staunch christian conservative (or perhaps christians in general, considering the show) for the sake of a temporary AuthorTract.
**Not to mention that Stewie is gay according to the {{Word of God}}
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[[folder: "Road to the Multiverse"]]
*"Road to the Multiverse" is ten minutes of poop and fart jokes interlaced with a thin plot and several Meg-is-ugly jokes. Then, in the very end, Brian from an alternate universe wants to come back to the main universe even though he [[FridgeLogic would've already gotten the chance to stay when he traveled with his Stewie through the Multiverse and didn't take that opportunity]] only to walk off and be hit by a car. The car was so predictable and obvious and that there wasn't a single person who didn't see it coming. Worse yet, alternate Brian would've been an interesting plot for a future episode but no, they killed him off instantly, which made the last seven minutes of the show worthless.
**This is exactly why the end of the Disney segment in the episode is so bad; this show is just as anti-Semitic as Seth purports Disney to be. Yes, we all know it's ''Disney'', but don't fucking pretend that this show isn't as offensive as anything that Disney puts out.
***If it was a shot at "Uncle Walt's" anti-semitism, it wasn't a very good one. If they had an animated Walt leading the charge to kill Mort, then that would have made more sense. But there wasn't, everything was ''all'' happy-scrappy until Mort showed up. The regular characters had designs reminiscent of various Disney characters (the latest being Meg's, based off of ''The Little Mermaid's'' Ursula, which came out waaayy long after Disney's death) and it gives off the impression that the Walt Disney Corporation as a whole hates Jews. And as for Family Guy not being anti-semitic? Well, let's see: the recurring Jewish character is Mort Goldman, who is pretty much a walking-talking personification of almost every Jewish stereotype known to man, his lesser seen family are pretty much his clones, and that when Peter once put up a "scare-Jew" (i.e. a scarecrow made up to look like AdolfHitler) to scare Mort away from the house so he wouldn't borrow anymore of the Griffens' stuff, Mort runs away screaming for everyone to protect Jon Stewart ("He's our most important Jew!") from the "reincarnated Hitler". So while Family Guy isn't anti-semitic per se, it does absolutely nothing to offset/subvert Jewish stereotypes. But yes, the Disney universe was a shitty joke, there is that too.
**** This troper actually ''loved'' the Disney universe segment and considers it the series' CrowningMomentOfAwesome. But, since [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] ''constantly'' makes that stupid Disney joke (Brian at the beginning of "Movin' Out, Brian's Song", the cutaway in some episode saying that Goofy goes to Hell for being involved with 9/11, etc.), I have to agree that the end of that segment was stupid. I was expecting a meta-joke about the Disney universe being too expensive to animate, and that would be why they had to leave. Not sure if that would have been better. Though, the end of that segment was not enough to make me not like that scene, "It's a Wonderful Day for Pie" and the Herbert part were still gold.
*** The thing is though, Walt Disney wasn't actually that racist, he was actually ''less racist'' than most people of his era. The reason him being anti-semetic became a popular belief was because of [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,295141,00.html a comment Brett Butler made on Letterman.]] Brett Butler's a psychotic drug addict, and was so addicted at the time that her show went through five producers in five years.
** I thought the whole Road to the Multiverse counts as a DethroningMomentOfSuck. You can literally put all the jokes in three categories. Bowel movements, Meg is ugly, and violence. Mayor [=McCheese=] gets shot, [[spoiler:alternate universe Brian gets hit by a car (predictable enough)]], John Hinkley (Reagan's attempted assassin) painted the Sistine Chapel, and Mort the Jew gets beat to death in the Disney universe.
** Wellesely Wild's anti-theism shines through again where he says Christianity holds back science here as well.
** What was really frustrating about it was the statement that without Christianity there would not have been the Dark ages. In reality, the biggest contributor to the Dark Ages was the power vacuum created by the fall of {{the Roman Empire}}, and it was largely the culture and technology brought back to Europe by the ''Crusades'' that ended them.
**Never mind the fact that Europe =/= the entire world. While Europe was enveloped in the Dark Ages, scientific advances still continued in other places like the Far East and the Islamic Empire (which reintroduced scientific and mathematic discoveries to Europe centuries after they had been lost there).
* When they went to the world where Japan won WW2. That joke was completely racist.
* This troper, a secular humanist, found the Christianity/Dark Ages joke in very bad taste.
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[[folder: "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag"]]
*The worst part of the Episode was when Brian dates an older woman was when showed the younger girl a video of himself in ''DieHard''. It wasn't funny, and it was just another use of LimitedAnimation. Considering that this is coming from ''Family Guy'', which has shown us four minutes of Conway Twitty singing with no animation ''at all'', this can be seen as an improvement.
**The episode where Brian got involved with an actual elderly woman. You know, someone who's actually OLD and not just above 21 years old. Even though that old lady died at the end of that episode, that was treated with a lot more respect and pathos then this episode saw fit to treat a woman who was, horrors of horrors, MORE THEN FORTY YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!
**The supposed {{Aesop}} of this episode was [[BrokenAesop broken beyond repair]]. Brian berates everyone for treating him poorly for dating an older woman, pointing out the hypocrisy of younger women dating older men and younger men dating older women. So, what happens? Again, the older woman tells Brian (who tells her he feels ''horrible'' for sleeping with another, younger, woman) that he's immature and that she's too good for him. Yes, according to the writers, it's not due to traditional sex roles, or {{double standard}}s, or traditional reasons that the idea of a man dating an older woman is frowned on. No, according to this episode, it's because men are immature. [[StreetFighter OF COURSE!]] I'm not sure which sex should be offended more...
*** Even though his family's reactions were jerkassy and his girlfriend seemed to suddenly and inexplicably turn into [[TheSimpsons Grandpa Simpson]], Brian's actions in that episode were pretty heinous. He pretty blatantly decided to propose in order to spite his family's prejudices, and though he apologized for cheating on her, he phrased it in a way that made it seem as though it was a good thing because it proved to him that SHE wasn't too old for him. DethroningMomentOfSuck from both sides of the argument.
**Perhaps the worst part of this episode was the writing within it. The older woman in question is screamed at by Peter, who grabs her shirt and starts demanding her age, sending her off in tears. The family seems UTTERLY DEVOTED to destroying Brian's love life. From the perspective of one who has worked very hard for his love life, I would ''beat my own kin'' if they did that. So, Brian does a good thing, comforts her, makes her feel loved and beautiful. It's amazing, maybe Brian does have a soul. Besides, age difference isn't that bad - Brian goes back and forth between 49 and 7, so hey, whatever. So, moving on from that. The woman is actually a fairly likable character. Well, we can't have that in a one shot, can we? So, in the fastest fucking case of {{Flanderization}} I've ever seen, this woman goes from being fairly on top of things and even somewhat modern to basically 80 in mannerisms and speech processes. My mother is 50. She's not talking in 1930s lingo. This is placed in to make her unsympathetic. Oh, and let's not forget the complete and utter CriticalResearchFailure - a picture is shown of the woman as a young child with her mother. Brian picks it up and comments "Huh... there's not enough stars on this flag!" in a nervous tone, implying she was born before Alaska and Hawaii were made states (1959). The woman is 50 (the episode first aired in 2009). If she's 50...and the picture shows her as a young, bipedal child with her mother (see, at least two years old, probably more)... then there WERE 50 stars on the flag...hmm. Thanks guys. I confirmed the Alaska/Hawaii thing in two minutes on TheOtherWiki. [[SarcasmMode I'm GLAD you can do the same]].
***Consider this: The entire family is ragging on her because she's "old." She's only fifty years old...In an earlier episode it was revealed that ''Peter'' is ''forty-two''. There's only eight years between them, ten between her and Lois! And ''that is what they call "old?!"''
***What's even more enraging is that Brian is about 49 in human years, which means that he's technically ''a year younger than her!'' Come ''on!''
*Lucy getting the ever-loving shit kicked out of her in "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag?" You know, I know she screwed with Charlie a lot back in ''{{Peanuts}}'' but nothing she did could you use to justify her getting kicked the crap out of her. Especially since she's a child, to make matters worse Peter actually brings up the therapy shtick she used as another reason to kick her. I dunno, maybe it's just me because I liked Lucy and don't like the concept of children being hurt... let alone a small 8-Year Old Girl all brought about [[RoadHouse a Patrick Swayze movie]] and Seth paying homage to him. Thanks Seth, I'm pretty sure Patrick would've wanted to be remembered for inspiring some idiot to beat up children.
**Not having seen the scene in particular, it sounds like a literal curb stomping, which is bad enough, but the fact that they did the same joke years before, only using Louis instead of Charlie Brown, just makes it worse. ''RobotChicken'' did something similar, but wasn't so bad, because it was so cartoonish, you could laugh at it.
**They did this joke already in ''Lethal Weapons'' (season 2), but much milder and to much better effect: Lois, in a martial arts training montage, runs to kick a football held by Lucy. The football gets yanked, Lois falls out of frame, then runs back to roundhouse Lucy, who cries. That's exactly the right amount of justice via cartoon violence that what Lucy did deserve. They ''knew'' how to do this joke right already, but have totally forgotten it since the pre-resurrection era.
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[[folder:'''Other Episodes''']]
*Hey, [=MacFarlane=], we fucking get it, you hate Jews. Enough already, okay? Really seriously getting a little sick of how much we need to hear about how much you hate Jews. Honest. Don't really need to hear Stewie smarming right at the camera about how God will kick the Jews' ass for killing Jesus. Wow. Fucking seriously, we're going to go with that bit? Really? From Stewie, not from Peter, we're really going to go with "Jews killed Christ."
**But no seriously, [=MacFarlane=] averages one Jew joke per episode. The only ethnicity he goes after as much or more are the Hispanics. Seriously, fucking enough, kk.
** Several of the writers, producers and voice actors for the show are Jewish. It's more likely to be SelfDepreciatingHumour than anti-semitism, something which American Jews are hardly alien to.
*In one episode, Jesus himself (mind you a couple of episodes before said that God and Jesus didn't exist) said that all religion was crap, and surprise, Brian agrees.
**I think that part of the episode was a response to complaints of how Brian could be an atheist when he's met God and Jesus. Rather than a clever or thoughtful explanation of how Brian could maintain his atheism, Mark Hentemenn instead has Jesus say that all religion is crap because Brian can't possibly be wrong. EVER. That's right, Brian's now officially a BlackHoleSue and the universe bends to his will. Of course that doesn't explain how Jesus has superpowers but I'm sure we'll get another episode where that's explained to the most insulting extent possible.
***Also the fact that deism isn't religious, but also believes there is a God. That could have been used, but NOOOOO, the AuthorAvatar is ALWAYS right!
****Which makes no sense as Brian's won an award for his essay and was hired by the New Yorker on the strength of his writing and worked himself to the bone (to the point of taking the mayor hostage) to fight a discriminatory law. His novel is apparently pretty lousy and accidentally a remake of [[IronEagle an existing story]], but he does seem to have a history as a talented writer. Not to mention that he was being chewed out by a guy who has been almost explicitly shown to engage in date rape, statutory rape, incest and bestiality, has left many fatherless children, and also hits on his best friend's wife (and outright slept with his other one's). The rant would have made sense if it was Cleaveland or Joe making it, but Quagmire?
*****Also, one of Quagmire's points was that he has no illusions about who he is, what he wants, and what he's after, and doesn't particularly try to hide it, either. Brian, on the other hand...
****** There's a difference between admitting that you're shallow and admitting that you're a rapist.
******When it comes to creative writing, Brian just sucks, has no originality, his best work is plagiarism and his mediocre work is unintentional plagiarism.
*The [[MoralDissonance Fighting a discriminatory law by taking the mayor hostage]] one. I'm sorry; WHAT?!?!? I don't care who you are or what you believe; tell me, for the love of all things sane, you see the problem with this! Brian, trying to prevent a gay marriage ban, takes an elected official hostage at gun point; and all it takes is a talking to from Lois about he's, surprise surprise, right again to get him to give up.
**What ticks ''This'' Troper off even more? Lois believes that gays should have the right to be together, but is against gay marriage. This is a moderate position, and indeed may be the majority one in America. But what convinces her that this opinion is wrong, wrong, wrong? Seeing Brian performing his '''''ACT OF TERRORISM''''' on the news, because obviously "he feels really strongly about this." '''''What?!''''' News flash, idiot writers: lots of people "feel really strongly" about their opinions, that has exactly ''zero'' definitive correlation to whether or not those opinions are right! To put it another way, if ''Lois'' had taken the mayor hostage to ''prevent'' gay marriage, would Brian have been so [[EasyEvangelism easily converted]] to her side, given how "strongly" she apparently believed she was right?
**Probably the worst part of that episode, for This Troper? The rape joke about Elizabeth Smart. RapeAsComedy is really toeing the line, even though this show does it constantly. But calling out the name of an ''actual'' rape victim, specifically a ''child?'' '''FUCK YOU, ASSHOLES.''' You know, I hope her ''family'' wasn't watching or anything.
*[[NostalgiaCritic ...I like to think of myself as a semi-reasonable human being, as a man of the world, so to speak, with a view somewhat grounded in comedic reality and realization. That view has been challenged. By what, you may ask?]] ''FamilyGuy''. Sweet Jebus what went wrong? It was all going so well! Then it went like ''TheSimpsons'', and each successive season got worse and worse! I persevered, oh I sat through it! If the Beatles movies couldn't break me, then certainly ''Family Guy'' wouldn't. This last season looked so harmless too. Even though every episode seemed to be composed of pure suck, there were at least moments to make up for it. But this last one... Why? Dear merciful God in Heaven, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger WHY? WHY DID CONWAY TWITTY SING FOR FIVE WHOLE MINUTES?!]] I'm...I'm ashamed to admit it...but that was the first time I turned away from a T.V. show in disgust. It was as if all [[WorseThanItSounds my senses were being raped by this single episode.]] I am a broken man... Don't cry for me, I'm already dead.
**"I'm alive! But I'm so angry, somebody's gotta pay for this!" While bad, the line was [[RefugeInAudacity so absurd and out of nowhere that I got some laughs out of that scene.]]
*''Family Guy'' has a tendency of ripping things off, shot-by-shot, word-for-word. While this effect is intentional, it comes off as greatly annoying to more than one troper. To wit:
**For me, ''FamilyGuy's'' Dethroning Moment of Suck was the "Ding Fries Are Done" song, which was an absolutely verbatim ripoff of a radio bit/viral video that had long been circulating on the Internet.
**The recreation of "Somewhere That's Green" from 'LittleShopOfHorrors''. Too much goddamn fucking filler, no gags added or anything, and all for a tired joke involving Herbert, their worst character. And not to mention the fact that Herbert is in drag in that scene. No amount of BrainBleach can wipe away the image that is now burned in my retinas.
**Adding to THAT, the show lifted, verbatim, an old joke that had been around long before the show returned from cancellation. Not a joke from any show, a "did you hear the one..." joke. The cutaway gag where Peter, dressed like a doctor, informs a husband that his wife has become a vegetable, and that he'll have to spend all his life caring for her, then follows it with "Nah, I'm just kidding, she's dead". That's probably hilarious, had you not been told that joke less than a year before the show returned from cancellation... [[DudeNotFunny Good luck telling that joke, now, and not being accused of getting it from ''Family Guy''. "Kudos" to Seth MacFarlane and pals for ripping off a source material that can't be pinpointed. Not like that's stopped them, because moment-by-moment recreations are apparently hilarious.]]
***Then there is the episode in which Peter founds his own religion. Quagmire comes to him and tells him about all the dirty things he has done. When Peter explains to him that there is no point in telling him that as there is no confession in his religion, Quagmire responds, "Are you nuts? I'm telling this to ''everyone!''" Also an old joke. It appeared before that in the third ''BlueCollarComedyTour'' movie, told by JeffFoxworthy.
*Yeesh, Meg. Where exactly it started this troper can't pinpoint (and has no real desire to look anyway), but wherever it was that Meg went from [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] teenager with self-esteem issues to punching bag qualifies as the Dethroning Moment of Suck. The fact it was done because the writers allegedly didn't know how to write for a teenage female character just makes it even more stupid. Some examples: Shot full of poison darts? Check. Thrown out of a boat, caught by fisherman, and then verbally berated? Check. Blamed and punished for everything in the series? Check yet again. Being shot POINT BLANK in the head just for greeting her father? Check and mate. And, indeed, compared to everyone else, Meg is far more likable than anyone else in the series these days.
**Agreed. I could understand it as a ''RunningGag'' (because it does make me like Meg more, because seriously, the stuff she gets put through), but Jesus, "The Road to {{The Multiverse}}" is pretty much ''the'' Dethroning Moment for me when it comes to Meg. [[spoiler:''Every single dimension'' hates her for the exact same reason: that she's not pretty enough for them ([[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]] legs in Disneyverse, Bulldog in the Dogs Rule-verse, committing seppuku in the Japanverse for being ugly and being promptly farted on. Even in the universe where Brian and Stewie see her as a sex bomb. [[ThisIsSparta What. The. Hell.]] The worst part there is they show several other women in the background and a woman who's just finished having sex with Quagmire. None come close to as hot as hot Meg]]. The shallowness really just pisses me off.
***Oh, ''God'', yes. I thought things were looking up when Meg was shown to be apparently pretty sexy in one 'verse, but then we find out she's still considered hideous? God damn you, Wellesely. ''Damn you!''
****Really, the only thing funny about the whole Meg's-ugly concept anymore is the fact that in the show's entire run, she's been voiced by two ridiculously gorgeous actresses -— Lacey Chabert and Mila Kunis, for the uninformed.
****One of the Meg's Ugly jokes that really p.o.'d this troper was when Meg was in her underwear (Which I for one enjoyed) and said to BillClinton he could have her and he went eww, and this man was in a limo with like five women who were ''WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY'' fatter than Meg's supposed to be.
*****That scene was undoubtedly intended as a Monica Lewinsky joke. Which ''might'' have been mildly funny, if the episode had aired...oh, '''EIGHT YEARS EARLIER!''' Gee, writers—why don't you throw in some O.J. Simpson jokes while you're at it? Oh, ''wait....''
***The one I hated was when she is begging to get raped, because no other man would have her, and the horrified criminal runs away in disgust.
**[[Tropers/{{Jonn}} I]] sat down for that episode telling myself, "Okay, let's see how long before The Writers bash Christians." Four minutes later, I changed the channel, noted the time for the WriterOnBoard page, and have never watched a new ''Family Guy'' again.
*The MileyCyrus episode had one that was quite disturbing. Brian asks Stewie to reprogram Miley Cyrus into being Brian's sex slave and since she's a minor, Brian is a pedophile (oh God, they're gonna make him the new Herbert!). While that's disgusting enough on its own, Brian justifies this by saying that he's 7. This only makes things worse because now [[FridgeLogic every girl Brian has dated is now a pedophile]]. While he would normally be considered 49 technically (in dog years, since one dog year equals 7 human years), he himself said he's 7 and he can't have it both ways. Either he is 49 and going after a 17 year old (which even Stewie found unacceptable) or else he's 7 and going after a 17 year old (which somehow made everything okay?) and both ways are {{squick}}y.
**Her age isn't even the whole of it. They wanted to re-program her to have sex with Brian against her free will. She may have been a robot, but the implications of rape were definitely there - her being underage only makes an already really creepy moment worse.
***Take into mind that Brian is a dog....as in not a human...[[{{Squick}} how many girlfriends has he had?]]
***What about the scene from the ''HannahMontana'' show where Miley's dad (who is played by her real father) told her to put on her wig so he could have sex with her under the notion that Hannah is not his daughter? Seriously, how many incest jokes do they have to have?
**Don't forget that the Evil Monkey is really a pretty nice guy. More than a few people claimed that was a JumpTheShark moment.
*"Stew-roids". This episode was probably just to get fans of the new, gay, Stewie (yes, they exist) to watch it when it turns out that it was a "Meg episode". But ''that's'' not the problem. Then Connie dates Chris (long story) just to make him "cool". But '''that's''' not the problem. Then Chris breaks up with Connie. But '''''that's''''' not the problem. The problem? Well, Connie "teams up" with Meg to get back at Chris, so Meg gets Neil to show an embarrassing video of Chris to get him to be "not cool" anymore, then ''the freaking principal of the school'' just jumps out of nowhere and says that ''Connie'' is now "cool" again for "getting back at Chris". But...when did Connie do anything? Meg at least gave Neil the deal. Now, does this show run on StatusQuoIsGod or not? They could have done it better, MUCH better. Bonus negative points for making Meg look like a [[PsychoLesbian lesbian creep]] near the end. (Tropers/GreatPikminFan)
**What the principal said was that Connie was popular because the guy who dethroned her had himself been dethroned. Therefore, anything he did was considered irrelevant.
***And despite the title being "Stew-roids", the whole reason he got really buffed up was to get revenge on Susie for humiliating him at the party -- and yet at no point does he ever go back to challenge her and his muscles get totally wasted. They also wasted a good opportunity to have him beat the shit out of Brian, and yet by the end of the episode his muscles waste away, having accomplished nothing -- and Brian chases him out a window and he flies away using his flappy skin.
*Without even getting into the politics, what really got me was the episode where Stewie questions the obvious PlotHole of Brian, a 7-year-old dog, having a teenaged son. Brian's response is "If you don't like it, go on the Internet and complain" (yes, I am aware of the irony). Because obviously, no matter how crappy your own writing skills are, all it takes to defend yourself is to call your opponents nerds with no life. Way to bite the hand that feeds you writers. (Tropers/{{AmuroNT1}})
**There's nothing inherently wrong with intentionally invoking the RuleOfFunny, so long as you remember that the key word is "funny".
***That moment was when I (Tropers/MetalShadowX) declared the seventh season to be the absolute worst. I'm pretty lenient on the show (Even ignoring the stupider crap listed here), but that was uncalled for; I also didn't like the other episode scenes with this "joke", but that was definitely the worst joke yet. With season 8 having no Conway Twitty segment in sight, I'd say things are looking up.
***They do the same in the episode "I Dream of Jesus". "Ha, ha! He's on the internet, and I'm in college!" Considering college students are probably one of Family Guy's biggest markets, I'm surprised how few people seem to have noticed the huge TakeThat against the target audience.
*In "Road to Germany" when Stewie sees the Nazi uniform has a [=McCain=]/Palin 08 tag on it. I don't hate this for political reasons, I hate this because this episode aired in OCTOBER of 2008. That joke would be relevant for one month and then it would seem off-putting. We know you guys are Democrats, and speaking as a Democrat I can say it makes the rest of us look terrible.
** The entire episode, really. [[DudeNotFunny It's all over the map.]]
*The episode where they travel to Texas. There's playing up stereotypes for humor, and there's presenting a direct critique of something. Both fine by themselves; ''they do not go well together''. Like bleach and ammonia. It's frightening that anyone out there is so bad at satire as to not know this; even moreso that a major network will still gladly pump the resulting cloud of toxic gas into people's homes.
** I think that this is a semi-stereotype at best. Being from Texas, I find few cowboy hat-wearing, rootin'-tootin', hicks. However, I imagine some Texans do indeed enjoy filling this stereotype while traveling to irritate other people. Sadly, it seems that quite a few non-Texans are surprised when they realize that not every Texan is a horse-wranglin', cattle-russlin', stereotype. Still, the other presumptions made by Seth and his crew are definitely below the belt.
**And then there's the pretense to get the Griffins to Texas: Stewie throws up in church after drinking too much wine and eating communion wafers, leading people to believe he's been possessed. So the ''whole town'' shows up to take Stewie away from his family to ''perform an exorcism'', and the Griffins '''leave Rhode Island'''. Never mind the fact that most church-sanctioned exorcisms are only for extreme cases -- the '''whole fucking town''' thinks that taking a child away from its family to perform a dangerous and potentially fatal religious practice based on a single instance of that child throwing up in church is '''A GOOD THING TO DO?!''' Oh, and let's not forget that while they're on the way to Texas, the Griffins learn that '''the police''' are looking for Stewie. Let me repeat that: '''the police are looking for a child because he may be possessed.''' Listen, I know it's just ''FamilyGuy'', and it's not meant to be intelligent entertainment on any level, but still... this qualifies as an Extreme DarthWiki/WallBanger in my opinion, and one of the absolute dumbest moments in television history.
***Also, considering that Stewie is like, an '''INFANT''', and infants vomit a lot, '''it makes even LESS SENSE''' that they would assume that he is possessed ''simply because he barfed'' '''AFTER EATING A LOT'''. WHAT ARE THESE MORONIC POLICEMEN ON?
***I also like that, despite the fact that the Griffins are stuck inside their house while it is surrounded by an angry mob, in the next scene they have somehow gotten into their car.
***Don't forget the fact that the Texans ''immediately'' try to execute Peter when he tells them he's retarded. Yes, Texas ''did'' execute a mentally retarded man, but he shot a cop. ''[[CriticalResearchFailure They don't try to kill retarded people for simply existing]]''.
**What annoyed me the most about the episode was Brian's short anti-Texas rant that was flirting with being a BigLippedAlligatorMoment where he notes that Texas is "A Red State Full of Right-Wing Nutjobs". Okay, [=MacFarlane=] or whoever the hell wrote this ep, I have one question for you: Have you NEVER heard of Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, or ANY OTHER GODDAMN URBAN SPRAWL IN TEXAS!? Seriously, there are some areas in Texas that are so Blue they make LA look Red. The only reason Texas is a Republican stronghold is because the suburbs around the cities tend to be more red as well as the large population nested in the Panhandle and the Guadelupe Mountains...
*"The Juice Is Loose": it was extremely dated (which they lamely tried to cover up in the intro), the jokes seemed to be stolen from a lame talk show circa 1993 and the ending was such a lame {{Shaggy Dog|Story}} moment. This is proof that if an episode can be dated BEFORE IT EVEN AIRS, it won't be long until the entire show become old and stale.
**I would like to point out that in two past episodes they made jokes that made O.J. innocent in the murder, including a news broadcast the real killer was found, and then all of a sudden he's deemed the murder again, talk about SeasonalRot.
*For [[DreadBaron me]] the final minutes of "Lois Kills Stewie" was the DMOS. The episode was (or so I thought) Stewie's final appearance, as his plans had finally succeeded. In a matter of minutes, we go from Stewie's "last hurrah" turns into a simulation. This was the breaking point, in my opinion.
**Still the [[strike: LampshadeHanging]], correction: the '''expected''' lampshade hanging with [[DontExplainTheJoke Brian and Stewie talking about how people would be disappointed]] [[ItGotWorse only made it worse]].
*[[Tropers/{{vampireklepto}} For me]], they started to get a bad omen watching Stewie's [[VillainSong over-the-top song about world domination]]. Ironic that part of the lyrics berated ''TheSimpsons'' for [[TakeThat not being funny anymore]], when ''Family Guy'' has managed it in fewer seasons. The main problem is watching the degeneration from actual jokes to just sex and violence (watch the chicken fights in order, they start getting a lot darker) and after watching "Love Blactually" with the most annoying, preachy, self-righteous Brian I think gives [[TheSimpsons Lisa Simpson]] a run for her money, I don't have high hopes of the rest of season 7.
*I stuck by Family Guy through the first 7 seasons broadcast in the UK. Then came "I dream of Jesus". Then I saw how dependent the show had become on cutaway or recurring unfunny gags drawn out so damn long, as well as all the political stuff Seth had seeped through lately. That one episode caused me to have enough of the entire show.
**Perhaps this Christian might be looking into this a bit to deeply, but what was up with their portrayal of Jesus as an immature brat in the last half of the episode? Where did that characterization come from at all? The first half of the episode played JesusWasWayCool fairly straight, then dropped it entirely for "immature celebrity" gags featuring Jesus. And in the end, the make Peter out to be more mature than Jesus; maybe it would have been more understandable (if not arrogant) if Brian was the one lecturing Jesus at the end... but ''[[RalphWiggum Peter]]''?
*My personal BerserkButton is the episode "Prick Up Your Ears", where the students at Meg's high school take abstinence pledges instead of being taught safe sex. Now, on one level I can agree with the basic {{Aesop}} that safe sex should be taught and condoms should be used...but what really turned this episode into a [=DMoS=] for me was the implication that if you deliberately choose not to have sex, there's something seriously wrong with you. [[RapeIsOkWhenItIsFemaleOnMale Apparently, according to Lois, rape is alright when it's used as a teaching tool to demonstrate to people why they shouldn't be abstinent.]] So if I, though the freedom of choice that the episode is supposed to promote, decide I don't want to have sex, it's alright for me to be raped as a means of "enlightening" me? Yikes.
**Especially the part about abstinence not being a "reasonable choice". That's like saying you can only either stay away from cigarettes your whole life or smoke 2 cartons every day, there is no in between.
*The one where Quagmire begins to rape [[TheSimpsons Marge]] and then she gives in is a particularly bad example. Matt Groening himself was pissed and chewed [=MacFarlane=] out. Eventually even [=MacFarlane=] admitted the joke was in really bad taste.
**For me, Quagmire crossed the MoralEventHorizon when he did that. Yeah guys, go ahead and show my favorite childhood characters get raped and killed. (Tropers/{{Emperordaein}})
***It gets worse. [[RapeIsLove Marge eventually GIVES IN]]. And after doing it with her, he kills the entire Simpsons family. [[ThisIsSparta WHAT. THE. FUCK.]] [[NoJustNo IS wrong with these people]]?! Some fans do take some solemn refuge in the thought that after Maggie's distinctive pacifier sucking is heard, there is a pause before the last gunshot is heard, which some fans like to interpret as Maggie taking the gun off him and doing him in. Would be bloody glorious if that actually happened, even if it wouldn't quite make up for the previous (appalling) joke.
***In my opinion, one of the worst DarthWiki/{{wall banger}}s about that whole segment was that it could have actually made for a decent joke/sight gag - if they cut it off right before it went straight into DudeNotFunny with the aforementioned cold-blooded murder (or, if you prefer, [[RapeIsLove Marge giving in]]).
**The biggest wallbanger comes in the DVD commentary for the episode where [=MacFarlene=] goes off on a long, unfunny tangent in which he goes on a long, whiny tirade about the joke being cut for syndication, insisting it's some sort of conspiracy perpetrated by Fox because he insulted their beloved cash cow (as opposed to the fact that it was a tasteless joke involving rape, murder and infanticide) then goes on to say the joke was justified because the Simpsons had already made several (Minor, mostly in good will) jokes at Family Guy's expense.
* My. God. Even after giving up on this show forever IT STILL MANAGES TO DISAPPOINT ME. On the 61st Emmys (2009) ''Family Guy'' did a segment for the show. Can you guess what they did? Have the family argue who's going to win? Have Peter meet the nominees? Do something funny? Nope. They repeated a joke. Which joke? THE ONE THAT HAS STEWIE BEATING UP BRIAN. THE EXACT SAME JOKE. The only thing they did change was the lines. And in turn, MADE THE FACT THAT STEWIE BEATS UP BRIAN MAKE NO SENSE. Any you know what, people laughed. TV's finest writers, actors, and other people laughing at this sick excuse for a joke. I died a little inside.
*What's even more stunning than "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" is "420", where Brian basically serves as a mouthpiece for pro-pot legalization propaganda, from conspiracy theories to all the supposed wonderful benefits that society receives once it's done. Not once does the episode really suggest that anything bad might happen as a result of wide-spread pot use, and the status quo is restored purely as a result of one man's greed.
** ''[[Tropers/LoneHoundoom I]] most certainly object to jokes implying that you can only enjoy [[DoctorWho Doctor]] [[HePannedItNowHeSucks Who]] if you're high.'' Not cool, man, not cool.
* [[Tropers/{{Demetrios}} I]] pretty much stopped watching the show after the episode "Family Goy". Why, you may ask? I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]].
**Bravo, Mark. You took one of the most chilling and disturbing scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' and played it for laughs (a shirtless Peter casually attempts to shoot Lois with a sniper rifle, all while his cigarette sits on the balcony ledge (and since when did they have a balcony?)). The only way that could've made a more tasteless reference to the Holocaust would be by having Mort Goldman complain about how dirty a gas chamber is. Of course, Hentemenn will probably read this, and think that's a great idea...
*When Quagmire gets the cat, and the other guys get annoyed and decide to shave it. We see Peter "shaving" it, actually killing it, complete with shrieks of pain from the cat, and blood spurting with each cut, landing on Peter and everywhere else. Besides not being funny in any conceivable way, this drags Peter's character and intelligence to depths never imagined, and crossed the MoralEventHorizon. The eventual payoff at the end of the episode reinforces these new lows.
**And it is even worse when you (miraculously) make it through to the end, where Quagmire is offering $200 dollars for the information of the whereabouts of his cat. Peter grabs the money out of Quagmire's hand and says he killed the cat in a very callous tone and walks off. Credits roll. '''WHAT!!!???'''
*The episode where they make fun of Carrot Top for his alleged over-reliance on props in order to be funny...because its not like ''FamilyGuy'' uses something way too much for the purpose of comedy.
*After watching a scene where Peter listed "all the brown people you can rape" as a benefit of joining the U.S. Navy in "Saving Private Brian", I swore myself off of ''Family Guy'' forever.
*When they started doing a rape or domestic violence joke at least, oh, once an episode if not more. LOL a woman is being horribly assaulted! I like dark humor, but there's a world of difference between say, Sarah Silverman's infamous bit in ''TheAristocrats'' and in ''Family Guy'' where there's no other joke besides...a woman being raped. Or horribly beaten. And Peter's "Oh get over it, it's a cartoon!" was particularly sickening cause I'm even more offended by the laziness and cowardice of that defense than I am the actual jokes themselves.
**"[[AquaMan You shouldn't have]] [[CompleteMonster led him on.]]" I first saw that gag along with a friend that had been a victim of sexual assault. I had voiced my concerns with her about my own disdain over how Meg's abuse was being played for laughs, having been a child abuse victim myself, but that ''AquaMan'' joke was the beginning of the end. Namely, the end of watching ''Family Guy'' ever again. We found that to be the turning point, sort of like CerebusSyndrome for being incredibly distasteful. You can't just flatly mirror real-life ignorant statements for laughs. Some hate later episodes for basically saying "THIS IS A JOKE", but we hated the series far before then, when they started saying "THIS IS SEXIST/RACIST/ETC." ''and playing this ignorance for laughs.'' Like, when ''KingOfTheHill'' is doing its usual thing, you're just like, "Ha ha, Bible-belt StrawmanPolitical conservative hijinks!" When ''FamilyGuy'' tries something similar, your reaction is more like, "Ha h--wait, incredibly offensive hijinks with a touch of TruthInTelevision? DudeNotFunny." It's hard to classify this under a definitive episode, but the ''AquaMan'' joke is definitely when I first started realizing just how badly these subjects were being handled.
* Next to ''DrawnTogether'', this is the animated show that '''defines''' NegativeContinuity, but when it comes to the characters' backgrounds, you used to look for a little consistency. For most of the show, Peter was the son of an Irish-Catholic, but discovered that one of his ancestors was a black man who was enslaved by his wife's family. And since that ancestor was renamed "Nate Griffin", it is logical to assume that Nate was from Peter's father's side of the family. Even "Untitled Griffin Family History" acknowledged Nate as a member of the family. But then, in one extremely stupid episode, we discover that not only was Francis Griffin '''NOT''' Peter's father, but Peter's father was a drunk living in Ireland. So Nate's outta the picture, unless the writers pulls out of their ass an explanation that Nate went over to Ireland for some reason (which until he does makes Nate a complete waste of time). And then comes ''"Padre de Familia"'' where it turns out that not is only Peter at least three-quarters Irish, but he was actually born from a failed abortion in Mexico. So now all of a sudden, Peter is now technically Mexican and is an illegal. [[DidNotDoTheResearch Putting aside that not only do immigration laws NOT work that way]], having three biological kids and living your entire life in America would at least not make him an illegal. And he has to work with migrant workers on his father-in-law's mansion because he want to get in touch with his non-existent roots, only for a SnapBack at the end. I won't get into detail about Lois' family's changes. For the love of God ([[StrawAtheist oh, wait...]]) guys, why do you feel the need to change what little you had established?
** In ''Family Guy'', immigration laws (like everything else) work the way that would most effectively create an {{anvilicious}} [[StrawmanPolitical strawman conservative]].
* The episode "Business Guy". The episode didn't exactly do or say anything offensive but it suffered from major plot holes, poor writing, an arbitrary resolution, and had only a few mediocre jokes. This isn't the offensive episode that ruins a show, this is the mediocre episode that makes people realize a show has run out of steam. Peter takes over Carter Pewterschmidt's company after a strip club sequence, whereupon the episode meanders along for 20 minutes (with a mediocre Quagmire joke in it) then tries to use a ''ScoobyDoo'' reference that ''Scooby Doo'' fans are sick of.
* I know it's ''Family Guy'', and it lives to be offensive, but is anyone else starting to notice that the show has a bit of a fixation on Jewish stereotypes and antisemitic gags? We have Peter reenacting scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' for laughs, an entire segment consisting of Mort Goldman coming up with dozens of ways to call Jews cheap.
** Here's something strange worth noting-- when Mort Goldman would originally appear, his large "weakling" personality was the source of comedy from him. Probably three years later after the show returned in 2005, jokes about him started to focus on his being a Jew. I am getting such a bad vibe from that shift in humor.
** Honestly, it goes beyond antisemitic jokes. There is a ton of casual racism that's just played out for laughs, especially in regard to blacks. The first few times I noticed it was from Brian which, alright, fine; Brian's a staunch progressive with a hidden, slightly racist streak inherited from his father. But then the jokes started coming from Stewie as well. And then every other character. I know the entire cast has been more or less [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into complete jackasses but when the racist jokes come so often and from every character, it starts to seem like maybe [[WriterOnBoard the writers have some issues]].
* Is it just me or has there been a lot of Robin Williams bashing lately? The cutaway in "[=McStroke=]" was lame enough, but then in "Baby Not On Board" a cutaway showed the kids in ''PatchAdams'' killing themselves over Robin's jokes (Something ''MadMagazine'' [[ItsBeenDone already did a decade earlier!]]), "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag" had ''WhatDreamsMayCome'' as one of the [=DVDs=] no one wanted to buy, and most recently in "Big Man On Hippocamus" there was a lame cutaway gag where the joke basically is "Robin isn't funny anymore". Right. [[SarcasmMode Because antisemitism, misogyny, and three minutes of Conway Twitty singing are much funnier than]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTAcw9puvY this]]. And don't think I'm complaining about all this because I'm a butthurt Robin fangirl. I'm complaining because these {{Take That}}s are unoriginal and not clever at all. My only consolation is that they haven't done a {{Gorn}}-filled animated snuff film ala ''{{Futurama}}''... yet. I wouldn't put it past them though.
* The second ''StarWars'' parody managed to be [[SoOkayItsAverage surprisingly alright]], its main flaw coming from missing out on the chance to make jokes (Missed Moment Of Funny?). The abortion joke, however, was [[DudeNotFunny just tasteless]].
* In the episode "Extra-Large Medium," the first gag of the show is Peter skating around in circles shouting "StarlightExpress" over and over. Apparently just [[ShallowParody saying the name of the thing you're making fun of]] counts as a joke now. Taking a page out of the ''SeltzerAndFriedberg'' book of comedy?
** The entire episode is a slap in the face to [[SarahPalin a certain politician]]. Subtle political satire is good, but this is just pathetic. The whole concept of the plot is mean-spirited and completely unnecessary. Said politician understandably criticized the episode for taking shots at someone who was supposed to be miles away from political crossfire. In response the actor who portrayed the character in question proceeded to defend her position and attack the politician for being hyper-sensitive and treating her son poorly. But here's the punchline-Seth backs her up. Not surprising that the actor would defend her own character (she was paid to voluntarily act, mind you), and proceed to explain that the attack was on the politician, not the child, which is not only still in poor taste, but is also a terrible excuse. Not to mention, more unlikely than an episode without an anti-Chrstian/Republican undertone. Her whole "get a sense of humor" is about as weak of an argument as they come. I dare that actor to publicly tell that to every single parent with a Downs Syndrome child, or someone who actually has the syndrome. Just think about it.
* Did anyone else {{facepalm}} after watching Lois make fun of Brian for dating an idiot in ''Whistle While Your Wife Works''? Especially since said idiot was only about as dumb Lois's husband, but much nicer, hotter and more infinitely more mentally stable and emotionally mature?
** Not just that Jillian is a much better companion than Peter, but considering that Lois knows that Brian has always loved her (Lois) since ''Brian in Love'' in Season 2 (and re-iterated in ''Play It Again, Brian''), it was downright cruel for her to mock Brian for his romantic choices. The guy is trying to preserve his friendships with you and your husband, and your marriage, by moving on and looking for someone else, and you throw it back in his face?!
* For me, another DMOS has to be what they did with Connie's character. Originally she was just the popular [[TheLibby Libby]] character who would make fun of Meg for her efforts to try to fit in with the popular kids. But nowadays she goes out her way to tease Meg even if Meg is just minding her own business, and even though Meg honestly wanted to be friends with Connie in the past. It just was fucking cruel in the "Stew-Roids" episode where Meg shows Connie the cuts she deliberately gave herself over the years as a result of Connie's cruel treatment of her when Connie asked Meg for help to make Chris "uncool". Because in later episodes if anything even after seeing how badly Meg has been hurt by her bullying (and how Meg cuts herself as a result of it) she ''still'' treats Meg like shit, if not more so.
* Ugh, the episode ''Baby Not On Board'', we all knew Peter is an idiot but at least he has some plausible reasons for it. Here it just...I don't have the words for it but man I know I couldn't be the only person who wanted to punch out Peter for his mind blowing stupidity. But no, NO, that's not the worst of it. After all the crap he puts his family through, Lois finally blows up at him for it. And then...feels ashamed when Peter ''rebuffs'' her for it? WHAT?! No! Nononononono. {{Rule of Funny}} or not, I can't give this show that one. There are just some {{Karma Houdini}} moments I can't forgive.
** [[Tropers/UberCream Someone]] should probably elaborate for those who are curious: Lois yells at him, and Peter responds with the speech John Candy delivers in ''PlanesTrainsAndAutomobiles''. Yes, the entire speech-- almost word for word. And Lois immediately forgives him.
*** And don't forget they end it by [[DontExplainTheJoke explaining the joke]] with Chris going 'haa, movie reference'. Just in case ya didn't get it. DID YA GET IT?! He's stealing a monologue word-for-word from an infinitely better and funnier movie!...''{{Futurama}}'' can't return fast enough in [[Tropers/TheDogSage my]] opinion.
* For me, the Dethroner came in ''Padre de Familia,'' when, in a cutaway gag, it's revealed Peter didn't even know what 9/11 was until months after...he walked in, saw Lois watching the coverage with tears in her eyes, and he ''laughs and says it must be a woman pilot.'' [[DudeNotFunny THAT'S NOT F*CKING FUNNY!]]
** You'd think [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] would hold more respect for the victims of 9/11, considering he was almost one of them.
***Objection, [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] did not write that episode. Let's give the guy some credit, and assume he didn't read the script until after. But, yeah...that joke should have been vetoed quick.
*** Overruled. He voices two of the main characters; of course he read the script beforehand.
* For me, the DMOS showed up in the episode "No Chris Left Behind" when the family went to see the Nutcracker and Stewie turned to Meg and said "You know Meg, female ballet dancers are famous for anorexia and bulimia, and uh...seems to work out for them. So, hintidy hint hint." Um...ok I know Meg bashing is a RunningGag for this show but that wasn't even funny. Heck the first time I saw that part in the episode I felt disgusted. In part because I've had anorexia myself in the past, and looking back on it I can only hope that I don't ever go down that road again. Telling Meg, who was just minding her own business, that she should develop an eating disorder...could he have acted any more like a unlikeable {{jerkass}}? Oh, and that's not the first time...he also deliberately picked at Jillian's issues with her weight and the knowledge that she has bulimia in order to get her to throw up all so he could take one of her teeth to give to the tooth fairy. And Jillian has always been genuinely nice to Stewie! Oh, and basically just the fact that Stewie was getting his daily lulz out of something as potentially life-threatening as having an eating disorder.
** That was very off putting to me as well. Another thing about the situation with Jillian's eating disorder that upset me was Brian's way of dealing with it. His girlfriend is causing serious harm to herself, but Brian doesn't do anything to help her because it makes her look "so hot" to him. What a selfish jackass.
* I think we should start listing all the worst {{Flanderization}} moments that have degraded Lois from a [[MamaBear loving mother and wife]] to a abusive shrew:
** "Go Stewie Go" had Lois trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, giving the [[DarthWiki/WallBanger wall banging]] excuse that Meg's boyfriend was trying to "rape" her when Meg caught them in the act, and then having the gall to insist that she could easily steal him away from her daughter if she wanted to during her "apology". Wasn't this [[CompleteMonster repulsive]] woman a mother?
** "Peter-assment" was an alright episode, as it made Peter out to be a much nicer guy than most episodes do (even counting him deciding to assault his boss), however, it finished off Lois as a likeable character for me...namely "It doesn't count as sexual harrasment if it's a woman on a man"...so let me get this straight. Men don't care if someone touches them if it's a woman, because we enjoy it no matter what, even if we really can't stand the person, and we are already deeply devoted to the woman we love? And because of that, it doesn't count as sexual harrasment? Coupled with her just ignoring the fact that Meg was, in fact, sexually harrased by a teacher...for god's sake, I never wanted a character to be permanently killed off so much.
*** I'd say it's worse than that: some have noticed that Meg isn't getting as much abuse this season as before (maybe someone's been reading this page). This was, in a way, the case here, but the conversation was so obviously meant to set up either Peter or Lois laughing at and insulting Meg that it was as if the writers figured that if they can't abuse Meg, they're not going to try to write for her.
*** Oh, Lois had an even ''worse'' moment in that episode! When Peter's boss called him to harass him over the phone, Peter begs Lois to tell her (his boss) he's not home. Lois calls him a baby, then gets back on the phone and says "Peter's in the shower...touching himself to your picture." All said with a smile on her face. So Peter has no choice but to take the call. ''What the fucking hell, woman?!''
**** The level of general CharacterDerailment is at the point of no return: I was aware that what Lois did was actually quite heinous, but I just couldn't feel bad about it. Considering that the last time Peter accused someone of sexual assault was his '''doctor''' for a '''digital rectal exam''', it was impossible for me to feel empathy for him.
***** One must remember in that episode, when Peter walked in the kitchen looking traumatised, Lois asks what's wrong, to which Peter says, "I was raped." Though it's true that Peter wasn't raped, one MUST remember that Lois's first reaction to this statement is that she '''LAUGHS!''' WTF Lois?!?
*** There's also the massive gap in logic that Lois doesn't seem to care that another woman is trying to seduce her husband.
** Lois basically telling Meg that she should kill herself in the episode "Stew-Roids". At one point in the episode Lois attempted to comfort Meg who was ''denied the right to attend a party Chris was holding at their own house''. However, Lois gives up trying to comfort Meg after 45 minutes, gives her a Sylvia Plath novel, a bottle of Ambien and leaves her to her misery, saying "whatever happens, happens." All because she couldn't be bothered to spend any more of her precious time on Meg. That moment pretty much made Lois out to be the ultimate [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] in my eyes.
** In the episode "Peter's Daughter" when Meg thinks she's pregnant, she refuses to have an abortion. Lois suggests Meg consider drinking and smoking a lot to cause a miscarriage, but not to "wimp out halfway through", because Lois ended up with Chris.
*** Not to mention when Peter's actions put Meg in a coma Peter starts to feel bad and rethink how he's been treating Meg. And what does Lois tell Peter when he says he feels like he never treated Meg as well as he should have? "Oh, don't be too hard on yourself, Peter. We all do things that we're not proud of." It's just the idea that she basically doesn't think the fact that Peter put Meg into a coma is that big of a deal. [[BerserkButton F*ck THAT! It IS a big f*cking deal!]]
* The episode that consisted of Brian getting a pilot published which was then butchered by TV execs with a subplot of Stewie suffering a severe head injury and Chris and Meg have to cover it up while he's unconscious. The jokes ranged from mediocre to DudeNotFunny. I was horrified that they tried to cover up Stewie's injury by throwing him under the car while it was pulling out, and the incest joke that was included in Brian's butchered show was disgusting.
** It's completely understandable to have a subplot where a character gets knocked out and the others pretend he's okay, but when it's an ''infant'' that's knocked out, and the family shows callous disregard of the injury to the point of negligence ([[NauseaFuel maggots growing on exposed brain matter, a goddamn raccoon gnawing at the wound]]), it just goes from being in bad taste to becoming completely, unrepentantly horrible.
** I would like to to point out that was Peter who threw Stewie under that car, because he wanted to make Lois think she was behind Stewie's injury for no good reason and and that Meg was going to take Stewie to hospital but Peter stopped. This leads to another example of Lois' [[CharacterDerailment character derailment]] when she immediately suggests a cover-up, just as Peter had been doing.
* The episode where Brian got angry over the Army being allowed to try and recruit at Meg and Chris's high school was it for me. I'd had enough of him at that point.
* Peter shooting the Native American girl (who was about to be ''[[RapeAsComedy raped]]'' no less) in "April In Quahog". Might as well rename the show to ''Misogyny Guy'' at this point.
** There's also when it's implied Meg strangled a cat to death. Seriously, '''[[CharacterDerailment Meg???]]''' Great, now she's the ''FamilyGuy'' equivalent of [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Evil Manga Kaworu]].
* The episode "Dog Gone". It was pretty much just scenes of dogs getting mutilated and killed horribly, paired with an animal rights {{aesop}}. It also shows that Brian's family would love to kill and eat him to see what he tastes like, but after hearing (falsely) that he died, they still manage to be sad about it. That was the episode that ruined the rest of the series for me.
** I seriously couldn't enjoy any part of that episode. Also, I found it weird that at the town meeting, Brian was demanding that everyone stop eating meat, even though he's a dog ... an animal that is, by nature, carnivorous. Even today, a dog's diet consists mainly of meat or meat based products and Brian's always been shown eating meat throughout the series, so from where did this come?
* This may not qualify, since it was ''technically'' on ''TheClevelandShow'', but it was a crossover episode, and the [=DMoS=] moments apply to ''Family Guy'' characters. So in this episode, Cleveland finds out that his ex-wife Loretta had died, and he doesn't know why he is so sad about it, considering that he hated her in every way possible. This seems like a decent emotional plot to an episode, except for the cause of death. Quagmire travels down to Cleveland's new (old) town to tell Cleveland that [[KarmaHoudini Peter]] had accidentally dropped a T-Rex skeleton (don't ask) on Cleveland's house from Family Guy, where Loretta was living. She was in the bathtub and fell out of the house in that silly way Cleveland did a lot, except she broke her neck when the tub hit the ground. Instead of calling an ambulance, Peter stood there and laughed at her "gross boobs." This was a horrible thing to do, even for Peter.
** Oh, AND Quagmire took Loretta's dead body, put it in a French Maid costume, and then ''had sex with it'' before driving it to Cleveland's for a proper burial.
* At the end of the episode ''FOX-y Lady'', Lois reveals that she no longer works for FOX, with no explanation given to how or why, then she gives a piss poor [[LampshadeHanging excuse]] that [[ViewersAreMorons no one cares]], to make up for the writers' inability to properly end the episode. As a writer, it's your job to atleast [[HandWave attempt]] to write a proper ending.
*The 150th episode begins with another Brian and Stewie episode. Brian eats Stewie's poo. And washes it down with Stewie's puke. Then wipes Stewie with his tongue. {{Squick}} does not even begin to describe it.
**For me, it was Brian trying to pierce Stewie's ear, and getting the pin lodged inside his ear canal and getting it stuck...I mean, ''my GOD''.
**At the end of the episode Brian appears to say "I hope you enjoyed this very special episode." This merely served as adding insult to injury.
** There was also the incredibly hamfisted character drama between Stewie and Brian, especially Brian being suicidal which comes out of nowhere and is done in the most eye rollingly bad fashion imaginable. And then afterwards Brian and Stewie proclaim that they're best friends and they love each other...which makes no sense when just a few minutes earlier, Stewie made Brian eat his poop and outright said he did it just to see if he could get Brian to do it.
** I was excited to hear that the episode was supposed to have no random cutaway scenes. I wanted to see if Family Guy would be able to stand on its own without them, and boy was I not surprised. It was a 45 minute long {{bottle episode}}, taking place entirely in a bank vault. The other fifteen minutes was just old/unaired footage. Cheapest milestone event EVER.
** The episode did not even contain humor, nor make an attempt to. In a comedy show, they didn't even try to do anything funny, or even very entertaining.
** It was like they were just trying to see if they could piss off everyone watching the show...
** Considering the episode upped Brian's Sueness to previously unheard levels, brought Stewie IMMENSELY OOC, focused it solely on those two, I have a feeling it was more of a {{take that}} to everyone who complained.
**The only episode I turned off due to sheer boredom with it all, and I can't be the only one
* The episode "Quagmire's Dad" takes the Brian hate to a new level with the blatant, unprovoked one-sided "fight" between Brian and Quagmire (who I'd already lost respect for because of his TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Brian), not to mention the subsequent death threat.
** The entire plot of the episode was cringe worthy, it starts off with the portrayal of an EasySexChange that is PlayedForLaughs and {{Squick}} for the entirety of the episode. [[DidNotDoTheResearch The sex change is shown to not only change sex but do everything else as well.]] I believe the character in question even became shorter due to the operation as she is seen in heels the rest of the episode. No one in the episode sides with transsexuals, they just seem to have varying degrees of disgust regarding the whole situation. Quagmire admitting he just wants his dad to be happy is the closest thing. To top it all of, there wasn't even a real ending, Brain and Quagmire fight and then Brain says "I fucked your dad". No resolution, No {{Aesop}}, just "Hey look! Isn't this gross?"
** This episode gets frickin' worse: Lois and Peter. I'm perfectly fine with Peter being an insensitive douche but Lois is Brian's friend. I mean I know his plots are boring but they totally treated him like garbage and chased him out and then laughed and laughed about how he was dating a transsexual instead of breaking it to him gently. Peter maybe but not Lois. [[DudeNotFunny And especially not after an episode where we learn Brian was contemplating suicide. My god these writers have lost all sense of shame and decorum.]]
** This episode shows Brian's worst descent from [[OnlySaneMan the likable voice of reason]] to UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, and then enters outright {{jerkass}} territory towards the end of the episode. He starts out needy and harbours [[SmallNameBigEgo unhealthy levels of self-importance]] when Lois isn't on-board with his every move. Upon meeting Ida, he forces a mention of the pretentious-sounding seminar he's attended to strike up a conversation, and continues to label himself a "writer" despite recent episodes showing his [[GiftedlyBad woeful ineptitude]]. Brian makes out with Ida, and presumably reach fourth base in Ida's hotel room. Upon his return home, he's pissed that Lois is unable to show genuine interest in his seminar (did he ask anyone else what they'd be up to?), but is excited to mention the woman he met last night. Sure, Lois' reaction to the photo is [[CharacterDerailment uncharacteristically harsh]], but when Brian hears from Stewie about Quagmire's (as-yet-unnamed) father having undergone gender reassignment surgery, he reacts just as brutally (and silences [[ButtMonkey Meg]] when she ''does'' ask him about the seminar). Upon {{the reveal}}, Brian's disgust is a [[{{Understatement}} protracted]] VomitIndiscretionShot that was presumably meant by the writers to appear {{squick}}y, but if we could all take a moment to consider the long-running and [[ElephantInTheLivingRoom unignorable]] quirk in the series' run of {{interspecies romance}} Brian has encountered: Ida may have a vagina that has been surgically constructed from her inverted penis, but Brian is a freakin' ''DOG''! Brian has no right to be so vomit-inducingly disgusted (or require thorough scrubbing afterward) when he discovers that his partner was not born female, when he isn't even the same species as her. To top it, yelling to Quagmire, "I fucked your dad" confirms his unwarranted prejudice, and any remaining shred of sympathy dissolves hereon. [[SarcasmMode Way to go, Brian. A real mature retort there]].
*** Sounds like another fail parody of a 90's pop reference. The Crying Game at least was treated well by ''RobotChicken''.
** Along with all this, let's not forget that Brian is the victim here, and he didn't even do anything wrong. ''He didn't know that was Quagmire's father''. And Quagmire's righteous indignation and beating of Brian is especially hypocritical when you consider the fact that there are probably hundreds of people who'd be far more justified in beating '''him''' half to death for raping them and/or their loved ones. Or maybe one of those children he's fathered, but never sees, could give him a good beating.
*** Me personally, this was the episode where I gave up on Quagmire. Yes, I could agree with some of what he said in "Jerome is the New Black" (even IF it made Brian cry), but '''senselessly beating the crap out of somebody who had no idea of what he did was wrong, and didn't EVEN want to fight back (and was RUNNING AWAY IN FEAR)''' is... just... WOW. Seriously, if there a REASON for causing friction between Quagmire and Brian, ok, fine. ...but god damn, Seth...
**** The entire reason of Quagmire beating Brian makes no sense to me. Is it normal practice in {{Eagleland}} to attack your ugh... mother's boyfriend? It looks like they just thought it would be cool make Glenn beating Brian. But [[ConfusingMultipleNegatives it's not just not funny]] it's not even an attempt to be funny. It's just horrible.
* "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". If they were going for RefugeInAudacity, they failed, because [[SomebodyElsesProblem that is]] ''[[SomebodyElsesProblem exactly]]'' [[SomebodyElsesProblem how if works in]] RealLife. It's disturbing to watch and made me feel sick.
** The joke itself was pretty funny (Ha, Dr. Seuss wrote a book named "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". This makes no sense, why would someone write such book for children? Thats makes me laugh) ManateeGag just ruined it. It didn't add anything but disturbing context.
** [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi I]] was really shocked when I first witnessed that cutaway, so nowadays, I would change the channel for a few seconds. They could've thought of a less painful cutaway to fill 22 minutes?
* All the put downs towards women in "The Splendid Source" literally made this troper say, "screw you" to her television.
** Seconded. I had given up on Family Guy, but decided to give IT one more chance. I thought this episode was kind of funny. Then I got up to the point where Peter is in the room with the smartest people in the room, and smugly comments, "Not a lot of women." Well, this woman is smart enough to skip this show and its lazy, misogynistic writers.
* I happen to be politically conservative, and swore off ''Family Guy'' after about seven seasons' worth of straw man arguments. Stewie in a Nazi uniform with a "[=McCain=]/Palin" button? Check. Peter repeating "We should bomb Iraq" at the 9/11 memorial? Check. I literally threw my ''Family Guy'' DVDs away.
** Dude, Tropers/MacPhisto is a borderline '''MARXIST''', and even he is disgusted by Seth's endless left-wing strawmanship (gives the rest of us a bad name). I believe that Sarah Palin is the worst thing to happen to this country since it was founded, and even I think "comparing-Republicans-to-Nazis" is both in bad taste and incredibly stupid.
* "Patriot Games", home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and the infamous "Shipoopi" scene. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.
* The episode "Partial Terms of Endearment" (Unaired by FOX) made me so disappointed and disturbed. Not like I have anything to do with pro-life, but somehow they managed to convince me that probably they won't do abortion. I thought "Oh, it's like season finale, maybe they decided to add new character to family with hilarity and heartwarming ensuing. That must be great, [[TheScrappy even if it won't]] things can't get worse" [[StatusQuoIsGod but no]].
** What's even more offensive is the way Peter keeps trying to induce an abortion on Lois.
** It gets even worse when Peter, for the sole purpose of providing a counter argument, is persuaded to become pro life after a 30 second video clip, even by his standards of stupidity, that's too ridiculous. Especially when he went from trying to kill the baby several times to being against abortion in the event of incest, genetic disorders, and even rape. What the fuck?
*** This is made even worse, because abortion is a serious topic, and having the [[StrawmanPolitical dumbest character on the show become the anti abortion strawman]] for no reason is completely offensive to a serious issue.
* This is going to be controversal: In one episode, Peter gets shipwrecked and Brian becomes Lois' new husband. We see that Brian has sexual interest in Lois, but she refuses to do youknowwhat, even though he is a way better father than Peter. In the end, Lois is together with Peter again and NOW she tells Brian that sie did wanted to move their beds together, elaborating on what kinds of things she would have liked to do with him. Don't get me wrong, dog-on-woman is creepy and just gross. But do you really have to tease him with this? Goddammit, he got your daughter a date with a famous sports reporter (which had one of the few funny lines in this episode BTW)! It just feels like she was saying "Yeah, you were nice, but I don't feel like you should be rewarded for it. So FUCK YOU!" This scene makes me want to pay somebody to do a Flash animation in which Lois gets repeatedly stabbed with a rusty knife.
*"Go Stewie Go". The episode was basically justifying Lois and her [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Wallbanging]] motivation of trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, being so selfish to ignore the fact that this was apparently the first normal guy Meg has ever dated (which the episode also goes out of its way to exaggeratedly point this out). Does she take a moment to respect her daughter? (or her husband, [[NegativeContinuity but she's already cheated on him before]], [[SoYeah so...]]) No! She just continues on in her already {{Scrappy}} {{Flanderization}}. [[KarmaHoudini And she gets off the whole ordeal]] with giving a simple (and horrible) apology to Meg and Peter ([[SarcasmMode wait ''silly me'']] she didn't apologise to Peter, [[WallBanger '''she blamed him''' for the whole thing!]]).
**The A-plot of "Go Stewie Go", I understand they were trying to do "Tootsie", but seriously, all they did was replace "soap opera" with "kids' show." That's it, that's all it it was, other than the "band aid" gag, there was ZERO originality.
**Peter exhibiting incestuous attraction towards Meg in the episode "Go Stewie Go" was downright disgusting and made this troper rather uncomfortable, especially when he made Meg kiss him on the lips. Given that Peter is already filling in the verbal and physical abuse aspects of being an [[AbusiveParents abusive parent]] we can now add sexual abuse as well!
**But the ultimate [=DMoS=] of the episode was the bar scene. [[FridgeLogic Did Brian just try and hit on a baby girl?]] It may have been Stewie in drag, sure, but [[CompletelyMissingThePoint the point of the costume was to fool the producers that he was ''A ONE YEAR OLD GIRL!'']] Wouldn't Brian ''also'' think that this is [[{{Squick}} a ONE YEAR OLD's hand]] that he's trying to place on his ''[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean other tail?]]''
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'''[[ThisIsGonnaSuck Well, here it is.]] [[MostTriumphantExample The worst offender of the worst offenders.]] [[SarcasmMode Enjoy.]]'''
* The episode can basically be described as an anti-theist ChickTract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth
to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of ''MoralOrel'' without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.- SNES Master KI
** Not to mention the above quote of "her very existence proves no benevolent force exists" is said with a complete straight face. It's not meant as a joke. It's not meant as an insult to her. It's meant as a fact. Danny Smith is the one that is the creator of this. FridgeLogic applies and means that he's therefore a non-benevolent individual that hates everyone and everything. I'll be completely honest, I watch ''Moral Orel'' and laugh at its portrayal of 'straw Christians'. Mostly because I know that most of them aren't like that, and it's a small vocal minority. But
troper, if the people who make the show want to focus on them so and empower them, it's their choice to do so. But this show, it truly hurt me and hurt my feelings. But then I've noticed that ''Family Guy'' has become more and more about being a mouth piece for far-left liberal and atheist beliefs and less about being funny. Really, if you're going to have a show be a mouthpiece, stop saying it's just for jokes, and say what it is: [[SouthPark your own personal propaganda machine.]]
*** I always saw the Meg statement as an extension of The Writer's general misogyny, interpreting "Meg" as basically "any woman who isn't hot". In this way, the statement makes [[InsaneTrollLogic vaguely more sense]], but [[BeyondTheImpossible becomes so much more disgusting as a result]].
*** I think Brian shows his true colors here. He insults Meg for being ugly... this coming from a dog. I don't know what happened to "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but Brian apparently doesn't care. What he sees as "ugly", is totally irrelevant to God because He created what He believes is actually good. It's also worth noting that Brian completely disregards Meg's Christian messages as a whole. Whether or not you agree with a religion, any at all really, a lot of them have genuinely good messages of not stealing, not lying, and so forth. Most people of any religious affiliation (including the non-religious) would probably attest to this. Furthermore, Brian comes off as a HUGE hypocrite when he criticizes Meg for being some "crazy, outspoken, conversion-happy Christian", but it turns out that it's okay for him to convert her into an atheist. [[SarcasmMode Man I love double standards.]]
** Oh thank you for seeing the exact same problem I saw. The argument isn't even an attempt at logic, it's just "If God existed, he would've made Meg pretty." To sum up, if God existed then the atheistic creator of the cartoon would've have drawn a single character in an attractive manner. Dear Krishna, Mr. [=MacFarlane=]! Does he actually consider that a realistic reason to not believe in a God? The strangest part is that Brian's statement is accepted as a reasonable argument and the entire book burning is put to a halt and all the townspeople, who had started behaving like Nazis after becoming more religious, go back to being normal.
*** Similar to how most atheists won't spend their entire time trying to prove that everyone who is religious is an idiot Nazi and most atheists
multiple entires are actually quite fine with people practicing whatever religion makes them happy. But Danny Smith is the exception that proves the rule.
**** As an atheist, I was still somehow offended. It was either going far beyond the realms of parody in terms of portraying Christians, or it was the whole bringing great shame
signed to atheists everywhere. It was just plain painful to watch.
***** The whole town converts back instantly too. Apparently Meg's existence is a pretty strong argument.
****** The really ridiculous thing is that in early seasons Brian was at least semi-religious. He had a Bible handy at times ("And the Lord said, Go Sox," in response to someone wondering what the bible verse people frequently referenced at ballgames was) and he was the only one who recognized the plagues when Peter made himself a false god, slapping Peter and declaring [[ThisIsSparta "God. Is. Pissed."]]
* That episode doesn't even pass the FridgeLogic test - God and Jesus are characters in the show, as is the Grim Reaper! Brian's venturing into FlatEarthAtheist territory saying that God doesn't exist in a universe where God can be found picking up women at the bar, all for the sake of being a mouthpiece. Also, as a liberal agnostic who used to like ''FamilyGuy'' for totally non-political reasons, I've just gotta comment that sharing his world views doesn't make the recent AuthorTract format any less preachy or condescending. The show just plain isn't funny anymore.
** Crap, at the end of the episode, it even showed that Brian's hypothesis that even though God doesn't exist (except that he does on the show), the universe is an amazing and wondrous place is wrong, as the universe was actually a molecule in the lamp on Adam West's nightstand.
** Wasn't there an episode where Meg became pretty and at the end of the episode it was concluded that being pretty wasn't good for her and she switched back to being ugly of her own free will? Which means that Meg choosing to not be pretty means there isn't a God because if there was a God he would've gone out of his way to interfere with her free will and force her to be attractive. HeadDesk, HeadDesk, HeadDesk.
* Not to mention that they managed to get the entire ''StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' cast to cameo and barely used them in the weakest guest appearance comedy yet on the show. I had all but given up on the show for a while, but being a TNG fan decided to sit for this one, my blood pressure steadily increasing as it became increasingly obvious that I was subjected effectively to a bait-and-switch (though I don't blame Fox for promoting the cameo, given what a train wreck the entire episode became).
** The first line of the episode implied that ''StarTrek'' convention-goers rarely see sunlight. Guess they wanted to pull out the fresh material right away.
* For the first half of the episode it seems to explicitly set up the moral that you shouldn't discriminate against someone for their faith or lack of one, or that maybe Meg just happened to take her religious belief a little too far... but nope! According to FamilyGuy, Christianity = BAD and Atheism = GOOD.
** That was
the same aesop they seemed to be setting up for troper the episode "Familiy Goy". If I remember correctly, it ended with Jesus saying "[[BrokenAesop Six to one, they're [all religions] all complete crap]]".
** Either that or he's going with the flow of the [[{{Anvilicious}} overly passionate]] young people who [[AcceptableTargets blame religion for
more recent one will be cut.
*Moments only, no "just
everything that's wrong with the Universe]]. Either way it's bad.
* Let's put it this way: this episode was so bad that ''even Seth'' had to eventually apologize for just how blatantly ''stupid'' this episode was in Jerome is the New Black (Quagmire's [[http://www.hulu.com/watch/111154/family-guy-quagmire-goes-off brutal tirade]] against Brian, that many consider Glen's CrowningMomentOfAwesome). This is the same man who approved "Prom Night Dumpster Baby" and yet ''THIS'' was the thing
he apologized for. Seriously, it's that bad.
** The worst part. The single worst part of all of this... is that at the end of the episode, where someone calls out Brian, FINALLY, someone calls his bullshit, he comes home crying...and Stewie comforts him and tells him it's okay and not to worry about it. Brian has always been Stewie's first target. Sure, there's some serious FoeYay, but he ALWAYS goes the hell after Brian. And he comforts him. Comforts him and removes that nagging doubt that he's not a complete and utter failure of a character. [[INeedAFreakingDrink Someone get me a beer...]]
* The biggest irony of this whole mess is that Brian's speech at the end of the episode was ''supposed'' to be his CrowningMomentOfAwesome. Instead it wound up here.
* One has to wonder what the point of this episode was: was it meant to turn Christians into atheists? Make atheists shun their friends and family if they believed in, well, ''anything?'' Were we supposed to ''agree'' with Brian and admit that the majority of Americans are evil idiots because they believe in something? WHAT. WAS. THE. POINT?
* The reason why Meg became a Christian in the first place was because her life was starting to ''really'' suck. In other words Danny Smith arrogantly assumed that the ''only reason'' religion exists is because peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then...never mind the fact that Brian's big argument that converts the whole town to atheism is "Peoples' lives tend to suck every now and then." So, um, the exact same thing except with atheism. Not much a difference, is it?
** It also implied that the only reason people believe there isn't a God is because people's lives suck. Not because atheism is what makes sense to some people or anything. Of course not. It simply must be that all atheists are what they are because the God they don't believe in is a jerk. This episode made this atheist want to scream.
* This atheist was extremely offended that the episode portrayed Christians as if they were total morons. This is not the 13th fucking century, very few theists are that radical; not all of them are going to try to convert you or run you out of town. Have some class.
* It didn't help that the only Christians they portrayed are the vocal, extreme minority. Yes, some Christians still practice book burning but the same logic can be applied to everything: some men cheat on their wives so does that make all men evil? No.
* ''Possibly'', Brian's argument is what Christians refer to as the "problem of pain": why would God, who is Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent, allow for abusive parents, rapists, mustard gas, war etc? (In RealLife, it's a highly contested issue within the Christian faith alone.) Brian's argument might've held ''some'' water if handled properly. Instead, it came out as: "Meg, a ''fictional character'' has a really crummy life; ergo a benevolent God cannot exist." This episode, it seems, was nothing more than a logic-free TakeThat not only at Christianity, but ''any'' type of faith in the unseen.
** I want to say that first off, I am a hardcore Christian. However, this is my biggest problem with most of the quotes on this page...I feel like we're all totally missing the point. Brian's argument wasn't so much "Meg is ugly, therefore, God can't exist," it was more "Meg, why do you believe/trust in a God that allows all of these horrible things to happen to you?" (Her family hating her, her friends making fun of her, etc...) I think Brian's argument makes a little more sense than we give it credit for, but at the same time, he doesn't fully understand the Christian faith either to make a statement like that...in any case, it still fits nicely on this page.
** Yeah that's what I figured, it didn't seem like he was calling Meg "ugly" or anything, to me it seemed more like he was commenting on that the fact that nearly EVERYBODY that makes eye contact with Meg considers her ugly and is repulsed by her(not to mention the way overrused gag of her being mistaken for a guy), and he uses that logic to convince her that god dosen't exist-and that was more then enough to convince her to believe Brian, and when you consider all the abuse she's gone through, Brian's argument would naturally make perfect sense to her. I didn't have the same hatred for this episode that most people do, but it STILL definitely went too far with the ridiculously over-the-top scene with Brian being demonized by everyone just for being an Atheist.
* In somewhat of a direction toward the FridgeLogic[=/=]WallBanger portion of this, the fact that Brian is an atheist was introduced and driven toward maddening levels, completely ignoring the fact that his atheism is a direct punch in the face of the admittedly inconsistent continuity anyway. Now to be fair, the dumb line about Meg being too ugly to allow a God to exist was said by an AuthorAvatar, Brian and the fact that he said something so insanely wall banging with a straight face may have been an attempt at making it funny. This didn't make it any less jarring at the fact that Brian apparently doesn't believe in God and Jesus after having ''seen them with his own eyes, '''spent an entire episode trying to convince Peter that he shouldn't try to take over for the real God''''', and on a less notable example been the victim of otherworldly/paranormal events in the past, such as his ''entire house being sucked into nothingness.'' So either the context of this episode is that the God that has been shown in the past in the show was written off as if he never existed just to make a point or one of Brian's head injuries throughout the series caused him to forget the fact that he's been ''confronted'' by God in the past.
* If we cut past all of Danny Smith's bad logic the moral of the episode was "If God exists then why does suffering exist?". The problem with that is that, at some point, nigh-everyone in a religious society thinks of this: we didn't need an entire episode just to hear the same question.
* Wait, Meg had just become a Christian in that episode. Last time I checked people who've just joined a new religion wouldn't be that good at defending it.
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[[folder:"Family Gay"]]
*The episode where Peter leaves his jobless housewife and three kids (one of which being a baby) because he suddenly turned gay. Yes, guys, we understand that it's okay to be gay, but that doesn't give you
*No contesting entries. This is subjective, the right to abandon all of your responsibilities without so much as a token conversation about child support. Hell, Lois even agrees that Peter didn't do entry is their opinion.
*No natter. As above,
anything wrong! He fucking did! He left your ass with three kids contesting an entry will be cut, and NO WAY TO SUPPORT THEM. HE DIDN'T EVEN WAIT FOR HER TO GET A JOB SO THAT HIS FAMILY (which he should still care somewhat about because, you know, gay people aren't amoral assholes) COULD SUPPORT THEMSELVES!! YES, THATS RIGHT PETER, GO AHEAD AND JUST &^!@#&*^!$&(@#*#!$YGHQSF!!!
**Considering that it was [[RalphWiggum Peter]], they were better off without him, which [[LampshadeHanging the episode hung a lantern on]]. It had good comedic value, but it shows that the writers failed once again at preaching political correctness in a DeadBabyComedy. If he had proved ''SouthPark'' right about it just being a GagSeries, [[{{Understatement}} this Article would be a lot shorter]].
**You forgot to mention the worst parts. Peter became test subject for genetic experiments because he couldn't afford to pay for the damages a horse he bought did, almost ruining the family. SoYeah, to ruin your family and then leave them without any kind of support just because you're now gay is the right thing to do, and if you dare to say otherwise, you're a homophobe. And the most shocking thing is that everybody was putting Peter's happiness before everything, despite Peter being the cause of all the problems. I wonder why there are still so many people who says that Peter is not a blatant AntiSue.
***Some of you seem to be forgetting about Lois's billionaire father. Peter didn't need to support her, because daddy would just pay the bills.
***Did anyone forget that he was injected with ''gay person DNA''?! Did fucking ''[[{{Sonichu}} Chris-Chan]]'' write this?
***Eh, Peter's just lucky he's the main character of ''Family Guy''. [[DesignatedHero At this point, in any other show, he'd be the villain.]] No really, he would be. Just paint his skin a disgusting shade of green, put a nasty-looking sword in his hands, and you've got yourself an honest-to-badness [[{{Warhammer 40000}} Great Unclean One]].
****At this time I'm reminded of "{{Superman}} At Earth's End", a comic where guns are used to solve all the problems, and then ends with an anti-gun message. Similarly, you can't have a pro-tolerance message in an episode that makes such egregious, un-ironic use of stereotypes. Things just work a certain way, and no amount of "comedy" can make up for that.
**Lois' line "I can't change your orientation, and it'd be wrong for me to try" absolutely made NO SENSE since they DID CHANGE Peter's orientation earlier. However, [[{{Anvilicious}} banging people's head with the idea that homosexuality is not a choice was more important]].
*I simply love how Stewie suddenly takes the stance of staunch christian conservative (or perhaps christians in general, considering the show) for the sake of a temporary AuthorTract.
**Not to mention that Stewie is gay according to the {{Word of God}}
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[[folder: "Road to the Multiverse"]]
*"Road to the Multiverse" is ten minutes of poop and fart jokes interlaced with a thin plot and several Meg-is-ugly jokes. Then, in the very end, Brian from an alternate universe wants to come back to the main universe even though he [[FridgeLogic would've already gotten the chance to stay when he traveled with his Stewie through the Multiverse and didn't take that opportunity]] only to walk off and be hit by a car. The car was so predictable and obvious and that there wasn't a single person who didn't see it coming. Worse yet, alternate Brian would've been an interesting plot for a future episode but no, they killed him off instantly, which made the last seven minutes of the show worthless.
**This is exactly why the end of the Disney segment in the episode is so bad; this show is just as anti-Semitic as Seth purports Disney to be. Yes, we all know it's ''Disney'', but don't fucking pretend that this show isn't as offensive as
anything that Disney puts out.
***If it was a shot at "Uncle Walt's" anti-semitism, it wasn't a very good one. If they had an animated Walt leading the charge to kill Mort, then that would have made more sense. But there wasn't, everything was ''all'' happy-scrappy until Mort showed up. The regular characters had designs reminiscent of various Disney characters (the latest being Meg's, based off of ''The Little Mermaid's'' Ursula, which came out waaayy long after Disney's death) and it gives off the impression that the Walt Disney Corporation as a whole hates Jews. And as for Family Guy not being anti-semitic? Well, let's see: the recurring Jewish character is Mort Goldman, who is pretty much a walking-talking personification of almost every Jewish stereotype known to man, his lesser seen family are pretty much his clones, and that when Peter once put up a "scare-Jew" (i.e. a scarecrow made up to look like AdolfHitler) to scare Mort away from the house so he wouldn't borrow anymore of the Griffens' stuff, Mort runs away screaming for everyone to protect Jon Stewart ("He's our most important Jew!") from the "reincarnated Hitler". So while Family Guy isn't anti-semitic per se, it does absolutely nothing to offset/subvert Jewish stereotypes. But yes, the Disney universe was a shitty joke, there is that too.
**** This troper actually ''loved'' the Disney universe segment and considers it the series' CrowningMomentOfAwesome. But, since [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] ''constantly'' makes that stupid Disney joke (Brian at the beginning of "Movin' Out, Brian's Song", the cutaway in some episode saying that Goofy goes to Hell for being involved with 9/11, etc.), I have to agree that the end of that segment was stupid. I was expecting a meta-joke about the Disney universe being too expensive to animate, and that would be why they had to leave. Not sure if that would have been better. Though, the end of that segment was not enough to make me not like that scene, "It's a Wonderful Day for Pie" and the Herbert part were still gold.
*** The thing is though, Walt Disney wasn't actually that racist, he was actually ''less racist'' than most people of his era. The reason him being anti-semetic became a popular belief was because of [[http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,295141,00.html a comment Brett Butler made on Letterman.]] Brett Butler's a psychotic drug addict, and was so addicted at the time that her show went through five producers in five years.
** I thought the whole Road to the Multiverse counts as a DethroningMomentOfSuck. You can literally put all the jokes in three categories. Bowel movements, Meg is ugly, and violence. Mayor [=McCheese=] gets shot, [[spoiler:alternate universe Brian gets hit by a car (predictable enough)]], John Hinkley (Reagan's attempted assassin) painted the Sistine Chapel, and Mort the Jew gets beat to death in the Disney universe.
** Wellesely Wild's anti-theism shines through again where he says Christianity holds back science here as well.
** What was really frustrating about it was the statement that without Christianity there would not have been the Dark ages. In reality, the biggest contributor to the Dark Ages was the power vacuum created by the fall of {{the Roman Empire}}, and it was largely the culture and technology brought back to Europe by the ''Crusades'' that ended them.
**Never mind the fact that Europe =/= the entire world. While Europe was enveloped in the Dark Ages, scientific advances still continued in other places like the Far East and the Islamic Empire (which reintroduced scientific and mathematic discoveries to Europe centuries after they had been lost there).
* When they went to the world where Japan won WW2. That joke was completely racist.
* This troper, a secular humanist, found the Christianity/Dark Ages joke in very bad taste.
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[[folder: "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag"]]
*The worst part of the Episode was when Brian dates an older woman was when showed the younger girl a video of himself in ''DieHard''. It wasn't funny, and it was just another use of LimitedAnimation. Considering that this is coming from ''Family Guy'', which has shown us four minutes of Conway Twitty singing with no animation ''at all'', this can be seen as an improvement.
**The episode where Brian got involved with an actual elderly woman. You know, someone who's actually OLD and not just above 21 years old. Even though that old lady died at the end of that episode, that was treated with a lot more respect and pathos then this episode saw fit to treat a woman who was, horrors of horrors, MORE THEN FORTY YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!
**The supposed {{Aesop}} of this episode was [[BrokenAesop broken beyond repair]]. Brian berates everyone for treating him poorly for dating an older woman, pointing out the hypocrisy of younger women dating older men and younger men dating older women. So, what happens? Again, the older woman tells Brian (who tells her he feels ''horrible'' for sleeping with another, younger, woman) that he's immature and that she's too good for him. Yes, according to the writers, it's not due to traditional sex roles, or {{double standard}}s, or traditional reasons that the idea of a man dating an older woman is frowned on. No, according to this episode, it's because men are immature. [[StreetFighter OF COURSE!]] I'm not sure which sex should be offended more...
*** Even though his family's reactions were jerkassy and his girlfriend seemed to suddenly and inexplicably turn into [[TheSimpsons Grandpa Simpson]], Brian's actions in that episode were pretty heinous. He pretty blatantly decided to propose in order to spite his family's prejudices, and though he apologized for cheating on her, he phrased it in a way that made it seem as though it was a good thing because it proved to him that SHE wasn't too old for him. DethroningMomentOfSuck from both sides of the argument.
**Perhaps the worst part of this episode was the writing within it. The older woman in question is screamed at by Peter, who grabs her shirt and starts demanding her age, sending her off in tears. The family seems UTTERLY DEVOTED to destroying Brian's love life. From the perspective of one who has worked very hard for his love life, I would ''beat my own kin'' if they did that. So, Brian does a good thing, comforts her, makes her feel loved and beautiful. It's amazing, maybe Brian does have a soul. Besides, age difference isn't that bad - Brian goes back and forth between 49 and 7, so hey, whatever. So, moving on from that. The woman is actually a fairly likable character. Well, we can't have that in a one shot, can we? So, in the fastest fucking case of {{Flanderization}} I've ever seen, this woman goes from being fairly on top of things and even somewhat modern to basically 80 in mannerisms and speech processes. My mother is 50. She's not talking in 1930s lingo. This is placed in to make her unsympathetic. Oh, and let's not forget the complete and utter CriticalResearchFailure - a picture is shown of the woman as a young child with her mother. Brian picks it up and comments "Huh... there's not enough stars on this flag!" in a nervous tone, implying she was born before Alaska and Hawaii were made states (1959). The woman is 50 (the episode first aired in 2009). If she's 50...and the picture shows her as a young, bipedal child with her mother (see, at least two years old, probably more)... then there WERE 50 stars on the flag...hmm. Thanks guys. I confirmed the Alaska/Hawaii thing in two minutes on TheOtherWiki. [[SarcasmMode I'm GLAD you can do the same]].
***Consider this: The entire family is ragging on her because she's "old." She's only fifty years old...In an earlier episode it was revealed that ''Peter'' is ''forty-two''. There's only eight years between them, ten between her and Lois! And ''that is what they call "old?!"''
***What's even more enraging is that Brian is about 49 in human years, which means that he's technically ''a year younger than her!'' Come ''on!''
*Lucy getting the ever-loving shit kicked out of her in "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag?" You know, I know she screwed with Charlie a lot back in ''{{Peanuts}}'' but nothing she did could you use to justify her getting kicked the crap out of her. Especially since she's a child, to make matters worse Peter actually brings up the therapy shtick she used as another reason to kick her. I dunno, maybe it's just me because I liked Lucy and don't like the concept of children being hurt... let alone a small 8-Year Old Girl all brought about [[RoadHouse a Patrick Swayze movie]] and Seth paying homage to him. Thanks Seth, I'm pretty sure Patrick would've wanted to be remembered for inspiring some idiot to beat up children.
**Not having seen the scene in particular, it sounds like a literal curb stomping, which is bad enough, but the fact that they did the same joke years before, only using Louis instead of Charlie Brown, just makes it worse. ''RobotChicken'' did something similar, but wasn't so bad, because it was so cartoonish, you could laugh at it.
**They did this joke already in ''Lethal Weapons'' (season 2), but much milder and to much better effect: Lois, in a martial arts training montage, runs to kick a football held by Lucy. The football gets yanked, Lois falls out of frame, then runs back to roundhouse Lucy, who cries. That's exactly the right amount of justice via cartoon violence that what Lucy did deserve. They ''knew'' how to do this joke right already, but have totally forgotten it since the pre-resurrection era.
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[[folder:'''Other Episodes''']]
*Hey, [=MacFarlane=], we fucking get it, you hate Jews. Enough already, okay? Really seriously getting a little sick of how much we need to hear about how much you hate Jews. Honest. Don't really need to hear Stewie smarming right at the camera about how God will kick the Jews' ass for killing Jesus. Wow. Fucking seriously, we're going to go with that bit? Really? From Stewie, not from Peter, we're really going to go with "Jews killed Christ."
**But no seriously, [=MacFarlane=] averages one Jew joke per episode. The only ethnicity he goes after as much or more are the Hispanics. Seriously, fucking enough, kk.
** Several of the writers, producers and voice actors for the show are Jewish. It's more likely to be SelfDepreciatingHumour than anti-semitism, something which American Jews are hardly alien to.
*In one episode, Jesus himself (mind you a couple of episodes before said that God and Jesus didn't exist) said that all religion was crap, and surprise, Brian agrees.
**I think that part of the episode was a response to complaints of how Brian could be an atheist when he's met God and Jesus. Rather than a clever or thoughtful explanation of how Brian could maintain his atheism, Mark Hentemenn instead has Jesus say that all religion is crap because Brian can't possibly be wrong. EVER. That's right, Brian's now officially a BlackHoleSue and the universe bends to his will. Of course that doesn't explain how Jesus has superpowers but I'm sure we'll get another episode where that's explained to the most insulting extent possible.
***Also the fact that deism isn't religious, but also believes there is a God. That could have been used, but NOOOOO, the AuthorAvatar is ALWAYS right!
****Which makes no sense as Brian's won an award for his essay and was hired by the New Yorker on the strength of his writing and worked himself to the bone (to the point of taking the mayor hostage) to fight a discriminatory law. His novel is apparently pretty lousy and accidentally a remake of [[IronEagle an existing story]], but he does seem to have a history as a talented writer. Not to mention that he was being chewed out by a guy who has been almost explicitly shown to engage in date rape, statutory rape, incest and bestiality, has left many fatherless children, and also hits on his best friend's wife (and outright slept with his other one's). The rant would have made sense if it was Cleaveland or Joe making it, but Quagmire?
*****Also, one of Quagmire's points was that he has no illusions about who he is, what he wants, and what he's after, and doesn't particularly try to hide it, either. Brian, on the other hand...
****** There's a difference between admitting that you're shallow and admitting that you're a rapist.
******When it comes to creative writing, Brian just sucks, has no originality, his best work is plagiarism and his mediocre work is unintentional plagiarism.
*The [[MoralDissonance Fighting a discriminatory law by taking the mayor hostage]] one. I'm sorry; WHAT?!?!? I don't care who you are or what you believe; tell me, for the love of all things sane, you see the problem with this! Brian, trying to prevent a gay marriage ban, takes an elected official hostage at gun point; and all it takes is a talking to from Lois about he's, surprise surprise, right again to get him to give up.
**What ticks ''This'' Troper off even more? Lois believes that gays should have the right to be together, but is against gay marriage. This is a moderate position, and indeed may be the majority one in America. But what convinces her that this opinion is wrong, wrong, wrong? Seeing Brian performing his '''''ACT OF TERRORISM''''' on the news, because obviously "he feels really strongly about this." '''''What?!''''' News flash, idiot writers: lots of people "feel really strongly" about their opinions, that has exactly ''zero'' definitive correlation to whether or not those opinions are right! To put it another way, if ''Lois'' had taken the mayor hostage to ''prevent'' gay marriage, would Brian have been so [[EasyEvangelism easily converted]] to her side, given how "strongly" she apparently believed she was right?
**Probably the worst part of that episode, for This Troper? The rape joke about Elizabeth Smart. RapeAsComedy is really toeing the line, even though this show does it constantly. But calling out the name of an ''actual'' rape victim, specifically a ''child?'' '''FUCK YOU, ASSHOLES.''' You know, I hope her ''family'' wasn't watching or anything.
*[[NostalgiaCritic ...I like to think of myself as a semi-reasonable human being, as a man of the world, so to speak, with a view somewhat grounded in comedic reality and realization. That view has been challenged. By what, you may ask?]] ''FamilyGuy''. Sweet Jebus what went wrong? It was all going so well! Then it went like ''TheSimpsons'', and each successive season got worse and worse! I persevered, oh I sat through it! If the Beatles movies couldn't break me, then certainly ''Family Guy'' wouldn't. This last season looked so harmless too. Even though every episode seemed to be composed of pure suck, there were at least moments to make up for it. But this last one... Why? Dear merciful God in Heaven, [[DarthWiki/WallBanger WHY? WHY DID CONWAY TWITTY SING FOR FIVE WHOLE MINUTES?!]] I'm...I'm ashamed to admit it...but that was the first time I turned away from a T.V. show in disgust. It was as if all [[WorseThanItSounds my senses were being raped by this single episode.]] I am a broken man... Don't cry for me, I'm already dead.
**"I'm alive! But I'm so angry, somebody's gotta pay for this!" While bad, the line was [[RefugeInAudacity so absurd and out of nowhere that I got some laughs out of that scene.]]
*''Family Guy'' has a tendency of ripping things off, shot-by-shot, word-for-word. While this effect is intentional, it comes off as greatly annoying to more than one troper. To wit:
**For me, ''FamilyGuy's'' Dethroning Moment of Suck was the "Ding Fries Are Done" song, which was an absolutely verbatim ripoff of a radio bit/viral video that had long been circulating on the Internet.
**The recreation of "Somewhere That's Green" from 'LittleShopOfHorrors''. Too much goddamn fucking filler, no gags added or anything, and all for a tired joke involving Herbert, their worst character. And not to mention the fact that Herbert is in drag in that scene. No amount of BrainBleach can wipe away the image that is now burned in my retinas.
**Adding to THAT, the show lifted, verbatim, an old joke that had been around long before the show returned from cancellation. Not a joke from any show, a "did you hear the one..." joke. The cutaway gag where Peter, dressed like a doctor, informs a husband that his wife has become a vegetable, and that he'll have to spend all his life caring for her, then follows it with "Nah, I'm just kidding, she's dead". That's probably hilarious, had you not been told that joke less than a year before the show returned from cancellation... [[DudeNotFunny Good luck telling that joke, now, and not being accused of getting it from ''Family Guy''. "Kudos" to Seth MacFarlane and pals for ripping off a source material that can't be pinpointed. Not like that's stopped them, because moment-by-moment recreations are apparently hilarious.]]
***Then there is the episode in which Peter founds his own religion. Quagmire comes to him and tells him about all the dirty things he has done. When Peter explains to him that there is no point in telling him that as there is no confession in his religion, Quagmire responds, "Are you nuts? I'm telling this to ''everyone!''" Also an old joke. It appeared before that in the third ''BlueCollarComedyTour'' movie, told by JeffFoxworthy.
*Yeesh, Meg. Where exactly it started this troper can't pinpoint (and has no real desire to look anyway), but wherever it was that Meg went from [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] teenager with self-esteem issues to punching bag qualifies as the Dethroning Moment of Suck. The fact it was done because the writers allegedly didn't know how to write for a teenage female character just makes it even more stupid. Some examples: Shot full of poison darts? Check. Thrown out of a boat, caught by fisherman, and then verbally berated? Check. Blamed and punished for everything in the series? Check yet again. Being shot POINT BLANK in the head just for greeting her father? Check and mate. And, indeed, compared to everyone else, Meg is far more likable than anyone else in the series these days.
**Agreed. I could understand it as a ''RunningGag'' (because it does make me like Meg more, because seriously, the stuff she gets put through), but Jesus, "The Road to {{The Multiverse}}" is pretty much ''the'' Dethroning Moment for me when it comes to Meg. [[spoiler:''Every single dimension'' hates her for the exact same reason: that she's not pretty enough for them ([[TheLittleMermaid Ursula]] legs in Disneyverse, Bulldog in the Dogs Rule-verse, committing seppuku in the Japanverse for being ugly and being promptly farted on. Even in the universe where Brian and Stewie see her as a sex bomb. [[ThisIsSparta What. The. Hell.]] The worst part there is they show several other women in the background and a woman who's just finished having sex with Quagmire. None come close to as hot as hot Meg]]. The shallowness really just pisses me off.
***Oh, ''God'', yes. I thought things were looking up when Meg was shown to be apparently pretty sexy in one 'verse, but then we find out she's still considered hideous? God damn you, Wellesely. ''Damn you!''
****Really, the only thing funny about the whole Meg's-ugly concept anymore is the fact that in the show's entire run, she's been voiced by two ridiculously gorgeous actresses -— Lacey Chabert and Mila Kunis, for the uninformed.
****One of the Meg's Ugly jokes that really p.o.'d this troper was when Meg was in her underwear (Which I for one enjoyed) and said to BillClinton he could have her and he went eww, and this man was in a limo with like five women who were ''WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY'' fatter than Meg's supposed to be.
*****That scene was undoubtedly intended as a Monica Lewinsky joke. Which ''might'' have been mildly funny, if the episode had aired...oh, '''EIGHT YEARS EARLIER!''' Gee, writers—why don't you throw in some O.J. Simpson jokes while you're at it? Oh, ''wait....''
***The one I hated was when she is begging to get raped, because no other man would have her, and the horrified criminal runs away in disgust.
**[[Tropers/{{Jonn}} I]] sat down for that episode telling myself, "Okay, let's see how long before The Writers bash Christians." Four minutes later, I changed the channel, noted the time for the WriterOnBoard page, and have never watched a new ''Family Guy'' again.
*The MileyCyrus episode had one that was quite disturbing. Brian asks Stewie to reprogram Miley Cyrus into being Brian's sex slave and since she's a minor, Brian is a pedophile (oh God, they're gonna make him the new Herbert!). While that's disgusting enough on its own, Brian justifies this by saying that he's 7. This only makes things worse because now [[FridgeLogic every girl Brian has dated is now a pedophile]]. While he would normally be considered 49 technically (in dog years, since one dog year equals 7 human years), he himself said he's 7 and he can't have it both ways. Either he is 49 and going after a 17 year old (which even Stewie found unacceptable) or else he's 7 and going after a 17 year old (which somehow made everything okay?) and both ways are {{squick}}y.
**Her age isn't even the whole of it. They wanted to re-program her to have sex with Brian against her free will. She may have been a robot, but the implications of rape were definitely there - her being underage only makes an already really creepy moment worse.
***Take into mind that Brian is a dog....as in not a human...[[{{Squick}} how many girlfriends has he had?]]
***What about the scene from the ''HannahMontana'' show where Miley's dad (who is played by her real father) told her to put on her wig so he could have sex with her under the notion that Hannah is not his daughter? Seriously, how many incest jokes do they have to have?
**Don't forget that the Evil Monkey is really a pretty nice guy. More than a few people claimed that was a JumpTheShark moment.
*"Stew-roids". This episode was probably just to get fans of the new, gay, Stewie (yes, they exist) to watch it when it turns out that it was a "Meg episode". But ''that's'' not the problem. Then Connie dates Chris (long story) just to make him "cool". But '''that's''' not the problem. Then Chris breaks up with Connie. But '''''that's''''' not the problem. The problem? Well, Connie "teams up" with Meg to get back at Chris, so Meg gets Neil to show an embarrassing video of Chris to get him to be "not cool" anymore, then ''the freaking principal of the school'' just jumps out of nowhere and says that ''Connie'' is now "cool" again for "getting back at Chris". But...when did Connie do anything? Meg at least gave Neil the deal. Now, does this show run on StatusQuoIsGod or not? They could have done it better, MUCH better. Bonus negative points for making Meg look like a [[PsychoLesbian lesbian creep]] near the end. (Tropers/GreatPikminFan)
**What the principal said was that Connie was popular because the guy who dethroned her had himself been dethroned. Therefore, anything he did was considered irrelevant.
***And despite the title being "Stew-roids", the whole reason he got really buffed up was to get revenge on Susie for humiliating him at the party -- and yet at no point does he ever go back to challenge her and his muscles get totally wasted. They also wasted a good opportunity to have him beat the shit out of Brian, and yet by the end of the episode his muscles waste away, having accomplished nothing -- and Brian chases him out a window and he flies away using his flappy skin.
*Without even getting into the politics, what really got me was the episode where Stewie questions the obvious PlotHole of Brian, a 7-year-old dog, having a teenaged son. Brian's response is "If you don't like it, go on the Internet and complain" (yes, I am aware of the irony). Because obviously, no matter how crappy your own writing skills are, all it takes to defend yourself is to call your opponents nerds with no life. Way to bite the hand that feeds you writers. (Tropers/{{AmuroNT1}})
**There's nothing inherently wrong with intentionally invoking the RuleOfFunny, so long as you remember that the key word is "funny".
***That moment was when I (Tropers/MetalShadowX) declared the seventh season to be the absolute worst. I'm pretty lenient on the show (Even ignoring the stupider crap listed here), but that was uncalled for; I also didn't like the other episode scenes with this "joke", but that was definitely the worst joke yet. With season 8 having no Conway Twitty segment in sight, I'd say things are looking up.
***They do the same in the episode "I Dream of Jesus". "Ha, ha! He's on the internet, and I'm in college!" Considering college students are probably one of Family Guy's biggest markets, I'm surprised how few people seem to have noticed the huge TakeThat against the target audience.
*In "Road to Germany" when Stewie sees the Nazi uniform has a [=McCain=]/Palin 08 tag on it. I don't hate this for political reasons, I hate this because this episode aired in OCTOBER of 2008. That joke would be relevant for one month and then it would seem off-putting. We know you guys are Democrats, and speaking as a Democrat I can say it makes the rest of us look terrible.
** The entire episode, really. [[DudeNotFunny It's all over the map.]]
*The episode where they travel to Texas. There's playing up stereotypes for humor, and there's presenting a direct critique of something. Both fine by themselves; ''they do not go well together''. Like bleach and ammonia. It's frightening that anyone out there is so bad at satire as to not know this; even moreso that a major network will still gladly pump the resulting cloud of toxic gas into people's homes.
** I think that this is a semi-stereotype at best. Being from Texas, I find few cowboy hat-wearing, rootin'-tootin', hicks. However, I imagine some Texans do indeed enjoy filling this stereotype while traveling to irritate other people. Sadly, it seems that quite a few non-Texans are surprised when they realize that not every Texan is a horse-wranglin', cattle-russlin', stereotype. Still, the other presumptions made by Seth and his crew are definitely below the belt.
**And then there's the pretense to get the Griffins to Texas: Stewie throws up in church after drinking too much wine and eating communion wafers, leading people to believe he's been possessed. So the ''whole town'' shows up to take Stewie away from his family to ''perform an exorcism'', and the Griffins '''leave Rhode Island'''. Never mind the fact that most church-sanctioned exorcisms are only for extreme cases -- the '''whole fucking town''' thinks that taking a child away from its family to perform a dangerous and potentially fatal religious practice based on a single instance of that child throwing up in church is '''A GOOD THING TO DO?!''' Oh, and let's not forget that while they're on the way to Texas, the Griffins learn that '''the police''' are looking for Stewie. Let me repeat that: '''the police are looking for a child because he may be possessed.''' Listen, I know it's just ''FamilyGuy'', and it's not meant to be intelligent entertainment on any level, but still... this qualifies as an Extreme DarthWiki/WallBanger in my opinion, and one of the absolute dumbest moments in television history.
***Also, considering that Stewie is like, an '''INFANT''', and infants vomit a lot, '''it makes even LESS SENSE''' that they would assume that he is possessed ''simply because he barfed'' '''AFTER EATING A LOT'''. WHAT ARE THESE MORONIC POLICEMEN ON?
***I also like that, despite the fact that the Griffins are stuck inside their house while it is surrounded by an angry mob, in the next scene they have somehow gotten into their car.
***Don't forget the fact that the Texans ''immediately'' try to execute Peter when he tells them he's retarded. Yes, Texas ''did'' execute a mentally retarded man, but he shot a cop. ''[[CriticalResearchFailure They don't try to kill retarded people for simply existing]]''.
**What annoyed me the most about the episode was Brian's short anti-Texas rant that was flirting with being a BigLippedAlligatorMoment where he notes that Texas is "A Red State Full of Right-Wing Nutjobs". Okay, [=MacFarlane=] or whoever the hell wrote this ep, I have one question for you: Have you NEVER heard of Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Corpus Christi, or ANY OTHER GODDAMN URBAN SPRAWL IN TEXAS!? Seriously, there are some areas in Texas that are so Blue they make LA look Red. The only reason Texas is a Republican stronghold is because the suburbs around the cities tend to be more red as well as the large population nested in the Panhandle and the Guadelupe Mountains...
*"The Juice Is Loose": it was extremely dated (which they lamely tried to cover up in the intro), the jokes seemed to be stolen from a lame talk show circa 1993 and the ending was such a lame {{Shaggy Dog|Story}} moment. This is proof that if an episode can be dated BEFORE IT EVEN AIRS, it won't be long until the entire show become old and stale.
**I would like to point out that in two past episodes they made jokes that made O.J. innocent in the murder, including a news broadcast the real killer was found, and then all of a sudden he's deemed the murder again, talk about SeasonalRot.
*For [[DreadBaron me]] the final minutes of "Lois Kills Stewie" was the DMOS. The episode was (or so I thought) Stewie's final appearance, as his plans had finally succeeded. In a matter of minutes, we go from Stewie's "last hurrah" turns into a simulation. This was the breaking point, in my opinion.
**Still the [[strike: LampshadeHanging]], correction: the '''expected''' lampshade hanging with [[DontExplainTheJoke Brian and Stewie talking about how people would be disappointed]] [[ItGotWorse only made it worse]].
*[[Tropers/{{vampireklepto}} For me]], they started to get a bad omen watching Stewie's [[VillainSong over-the-top song about world domination]]. Ironic that part of the lyrics berated ''TheSimpsons'' for [[TakeThat not being funny anymore]], when ''Family Guy'' has managed it in fewer seasons. The main problem is watching the degeneration from actual jokes to just sex and violence (watch the chicken fights in order, they start getting a lot darker) and after watching "Love Blactually" with the most annoying, preachy, self-righteous Brian I think gives [[TheSimpsons Lisa Simpson]] a run for her money, I don't have high hopes of the rest of season 7.
*I stuck by Family Guy through the first 7 seasons broadcast in the UK. Then came "I dream of Jesus". Then I saw how dependent the show had become on cutaway or recurring unfunny gags drawn out so damn long, as well as all the political stuff Seth had seeped through lately. That one episode caused me to have enough of the entire show.
**Perhaps this Christian might be looking into this a bit to deeply, but what was up with their portrayal of Jesus as an immature brat in the last half of the episode? Where did that characterization come from at all? The first half of the episode played JesusWasWayCool fairly straight, then dropped it entirely for "immature celebrity" gags featuring Jesus. And in the end, the make Peter out to be more mature than Jesus; maybe it would have been more understandable (if not arrogant) if Brian was the one lecturing Jesus at the end... but ''[[RalphWiggum Peter]]''?
*My personal BerserkButton is the episode "Prick Up Your Ears", where the students at Meg's high school take abstinence pledges instead of being taught safe sex. Now, on one level I can agree with the basic {{Aesop}} that safe sex should be taught and condoms should be used...but what really turned this episode into a [=DMoS=] for me was the implication that if you deliberately choose not to have sex, there's something seriously wrong with you. [[RapeIsOkWhenItIsFemaleOnMale Apparently, according to Lois, rape is alright when it's used as a teaching tool to demonstrate to people why they shouldn't be abstinent.]] So if I, though the freedom of choice that the episode is supposed to promote, decide I don't want to have sex, it's alright for me to be raped as a means of "enlightening" me? Yikes.
**Especially the part about abstinence not being a "reasonable choice". That's like saying you can only either stay away from cigarettes your whole life or smoke 2 cartons every day, there is no in between.
*The one where Quagmire begins to rape [[TheSimpsons Marge]] and then she gives in is a particularly bad example. Matt Groening himself was pissed and chewed [=MacFarlane=] out. Eventually even [=MacFarlane=] admitted the joke was in really bad taste.
**For me, Quagmire crossed the MoralEventHorizon when he did that. Yeah guys, go ahead and show my favorite childhood characters get raped and killed. (Tropers/{{Emperordaein}})
***It gets worse. [[RapeIsLove Marge eventually GIVES IN]]. And after doing it with her, he kills the entire Simpsons family. [[ThisIsSparta WHAT. THE. FUCK.]] [[NoJustNo IS wrong with these people]]?! Some fans do take some solemn refuge in the thought that after Maggie's distinctive pacifier sucking is heard, there is a pause before the last gunshot is heard, which some fans like to interpret as Maggie taking the gun off him and doing him in. Would be bloody glorious if that actually happened, even if it wouldn't quite make up for the previous (appalling) joke.
***In my opinion, one of the worst DarthWiki/{{wall banger}}s about that whole segment was that it could have actually made for a decent joke/sight gag - if they cut it off right before it went straight into DudeNotFunny with the aforementioned cold-blooded murder (or, if you prefer, [[RapeIsLove Marge giving in]]).
**The biggest wallbanger comes in the DVD commentary for the episode where [=MacFarlene=] goes off on a long, unfunny tangent in which he goes on a long, whiny tirade about the joke being cut for syndication, insisting it's some sort of conspiracy perpetrated by Fox because he insulted their beloved cash cow (as opposed to the fact that it was a tasteless joke involving rape, murder and infanticide) then goes on to say the joke was justified because the Simpsons had already made several (Minor, mostly in good will) jokes at Family Guy's expense.
* My. God. Even after giving up on this show forever IT STILL MANAGES TO DISAPPOINT ME. On the 61st Emmys (2009) ''Family Guy'' did a segment for the show. Can you guess what they did? Have the family argue who's going to win? Have Peter meet the nominees? Do something funny? Nope. They repeated a joke. Which joke? THE ONE THAT HAS STEWIE BEATING UP BRIAN. THE EXACT SAME JOKE. The only thing they did change was the lines. And in turn, MADE THE FACT THAT STEWIE BEATS UP BRIAN MAKE NO SENSE. Any you know what, people laughed. TV's finest writers, actors, and other people laughing at this sick excuse for a joke. I died a little inside.
*What's even more stunning than "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" is "420", where Brian basically serves as a mouthpiece for pro-pot legalization propaganda, from conspiracy theories to all the supposed wonderful benefits that society receives once it's done. Not once does the episode really suggest that anything bad might happen as a result of wide-spread pot use, and the status quo is restored purely as a result of one man's greed.
** ''[[Tropers/LoneHoundoom I]] most certainly object to jokes implying that you can only enjoy [[DoctorWho Doctor]] [[HePannedItNowHeSucks Who]] if you're high.'' Not cool, man, not cool.
* [[Tropers/{{Demetrios}} I]] pretty much stopped watching the show after the episode "Family Goy". Why, you may ask? I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as the [[{{Batman}} Joker]].
**Bravo, Mark. You took one of the most chilling and disturbing scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' and played it for laughs (a shirtless Peter casually attempts to shoot Lois with a sniper rifle, all while his cigarette sits on the balcony ledge (and since when did they have a balcony?)). The only way that could've made a more tasteless reference to the Holocaust would be by having Mort Goldman complain about how dirty a gas chamber is. Of course, Hentemenn will probably read this, and think that's a great idea...
*When Quagmire gets the cat, and the other guys get annoyed and decide to shave it. We see Peter "shaving" it, actually killing it, complete with shrieks of pain from the cat, and blood spurting with each cut, landing on Peter and everywhere else. Besides not being funny in any conceivable way, this drags Peter's character and intelligence to depths never imagined, and crossed the MoralEventHorizon. The eventual payoff at the end of the episode reinforces these new lows.
**And it is even worse when you (miraculously) make it through to the end, where Quagmire is offering $200 dollars for the information of the whereabouts of his cat. Peter grabs the money out of Quagmire's hand and says he killed the cat in a very callous tone and walks off. Credits roll. '''WHAT!!!???'''
*The episode where they make fun of Carrot Top for his alleged over-reliance on props in order to be funny...because its not like ''FamilyGuy'' uses something way too much for the purpose of comedy.
*After watching a scene where Peter listed "all the brown people you can rape" as a benefit of joining the U.S. Navy in "Saving Private Brian", I swore myself off of ''Family Guy'' forever.
*When they started doing a rape or domestic violence joke at least, oh, once an episode if not more. LOL a woman is being horribly assaulted! I like dark humor, but there's a world of difference between say, Sarah Silverman's infamous bit in ''TheAristocrats'' and in ''Family Guy'' where there's no other joke besides...a woman being raped. Or horribly beaten. And Peter's "Oh get over it, it's a cartoon!" was particularly sickening cause I'm even more offended by the laziness and cowardice of that defense than I am the actual jokes themselves.
**"[[AquaMan You shouldn't have]] [[CompleteMonster led him on.]]" I first saw that gag along with a friend that had been a victim of sexual assault. I had voiced my concerns with her about my own disdain over how Meg's abuse was being played for laughs, having been a child abuse victim myself, but that ''AquaMan'' joke was the beginning of the end. Namely, the end of watching ''Family Guy'' ever again. We found that to be the turning point, sort of like CerebusSyndrome for being incredibly distasteful. You can't just flatly mirror real-life ignorant statements for laughs. Some hate later episodes for basically saying "THIS IS A JOKE", but we hated the series far before then, when they started saying "THIS IS SEXIST/RACIST/ETC." ''and playing this ignorance for laughs.'' Like, when ''KingOfTheHill'' is doing its usual thing, you're just like, "Ha ha, Bible-belt StrawmanPolitical conservative hijinks!" When ''FamilyGuy'' tries something similar, your reaction is more like, "Ha h--wait, incredibly offensive hijinks with a touch of TruthInTelevision? DudeNotFunny." It's hard to classify this under a definitive episode, but the ''AquaMan'' joke is definitely when I first started realizing just how badly these subjects were being handled.
* Next to ''DrawnTogether'', this is the animated show that '''defines''' NegativeContinuity, but when it comes to the characters' backgrounds, you used to look for a little consistency. For most of the show, Peter was the son of an Irish-Catholic, but discovered that one of his ancestors was a black man who was enslaved by his wife's family. And since that ancestor was renamed "Nate Griffin", it is logical to assume that Nate was from Peter's father's side of the family. Even "Untitled Griffin Family History" acknowledged Nate as a member of the family. But then, in one extremely stupid episode, we discover that not only was Francis Griffin '''NOT''' Peter's father, but Peter's father was a drunk living in Ireland. So Nate's outta the picture, unless the writers pulls out of their ass an explanation that Nate went over to Ireland for some reason (which until he does makes Nate a complete waste of time). And then comes ''"Padre de Familia"'' where it turns out that not is only Peter at least three-quarters Irish, but he was actually born from a failed abortion in Mexico. So now all of a sudden, Peter is now technically Mexican and is an illegal. [[DidNotDoTheResearch Putting aside that not only do immigration laws NOT work that way]], having three biological kids and living your entire life in America would at least not make him an illegal. And he has to work with migrant workers on his father-in-law's mansion because he want to get in touch with his non-existent roots, only for a SnapBack at the end. I won't get into detail about Lois' family's changes. For the love of God ([[StrawAtheist oh, wait...]]) guys, why do you feel the need to change what little you had established?
** In ''Family Guy'', immigration laws (like everything else) work the way that would most effectively create an {{anvilicious}} [[StrawmanPolitical strawman conservative]].
* The episode "Business Guy". The episode didn't exactly do or say anything offensive but it suffered from major plot holes, poor writing, an arbitrary resolution, and had only a few mediocre jokes. This isn't the offensive episode that ruins a show, this is the mediocre episode that makes people realize a show has run out of steam. Peter takes over Carter Pewterschmidt's company after a strip club sequence, whereupon the episode meanders along for 20 minutes (with a mediocre Quagmire joke in it) then tries to use a ''ScoobyDoo'' reference that ''Scooby Doo'' fans are sick of.
* I know it's ''Family Guy'', and it lives to be offensive, but is anyone else starting to notice that the show has a bit of a fixation on Jewish stereotypes and antisemitic gags? We have Peter reenacting scenes from ''[=~Schindler's List~=]'' for laughs, an entire segment consisting of Mort Goldman coming up with dozens of ways to call Jews cheap.
** Here's something strange worth noting-- when Mort Goldman would originally appear, his large "weakling" personality was the source of comedy from him. Probably three years later after the show returned in 2005, jokes about him started to focus on his being a Jew. I am getting such a bad vibe from that shift in humor.
** Honestly, it goes beyond antisemitic jokes. There is a ton of casual racism
that's just played out for laughs, especially in regard to blacks. The first few times I noticed it was from Brian which, alright, fine; Brian's a staunch progressive with a hidden, slightly racist streak inherited from his father. But then the jokes started coming from Stewie as well. And then every other character. I know the entire cast has been contributing more or less [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] into complete jackasses but when the racist jokes come so often and from every character, it starts to seem like maybe [[WriterOnBoard the writers have some issues]].
* Is it just me or has there been a lot of Robin Williams bashing lately? The cutaway in "[=McStroke=]" was lame enough, but then in "Baby Not On Board" a cutaway showed the kids in ''PatchAdams'' killing themselves over Robin's jokes (Something ''MadMagazine'' [[ItsBeenDone already did a decade earlier!]]), "Brian's Got A Brand New Bag" had ''WhatDreamsMayCome'' as one of the [=DVDs=] no one wanted to buy, and most recently in "Big Man On Hippocamus" there was a lame cutaway gag where the joke basically is "Robin isn't funny anymore". Right. [[SarcasmMode Because antisemitism, misogyny, and three minutes of Conway Twitty singing are much funnier than]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTAcw9puvY this]]. And don't think I'm complaining about all this because I'm a butthurt Robin fangirl. I'm complaining because these {{Take That}}s are unoriginal and not clever at all. My only consolation is that they haven't done a {{Gorn}}-filled animated snuff film ala ''{{Futurama}}''... yet. I wouldn't put it past them though.
* The second ''StarWars'' parody managed to be [[SoOkayItsAverage surprisingly alright]], its main flaw coming from missing out on the chance to make jokes (Missed Moment Of Funny?). The abortion joke, however, was [[DudeNotFunny just tasteless]].
* In the episode "Extra-Large Medium," the first gag of the show is Peter skating around in circles shouting "StarlightExpress" over and over. Apparently just [[ShallowParody saying the name of the thing you're making fun of]] counts as a joke now. Taking a page out of the ''SeltzerAndFriedberg'' book of comedy?
** The entire episode is a slap in the face to [[SarahPalin a certain politician]]. Subtle political satire is good, but this is just pathetic. The whole concept of the plot is mean-spirited and completely unnecessary. Said politician understandably criticized the episode for taking shots at someone who was supposed to be miles away from political crossfire. In response the actor who portrayed the character in question proceeded to defend her position and attack the politician for being hyper-sensitive and treating her son poorly. But here's the punchline-Seth backs her up. Not surprising that the actor would defend her own character (she was paid to voluntarily act, mind you), and proceed to explain that the attack was on the politician, not the child, which is not only still in poor taste, but is also a terrible excuse. Not to mention, more unlikely than an episode without an anti-Chrstian/Republican undertone. Her whole "get a sense of humor" is about as weak of an argument as they come. I dare that actor to publicly tell that to every single parent with a Downs Syndrome child, or someone who actually has the syndrome. Just think about it.
* Did anyone else {{facepalm}} after watching Lois make fun of Brian for dating an idiot in ''Whistle While Your Wife Works''? Especially since said idiot was only about as dumb Lois's husband, but much nicer, hotter and more infinitely more mentally stable and emotionally mature?
** Not just that Jillian is a much better companion than Peter, but considering that Lois knows that Brian has always loved her (Lois) since ''Brian in Love'' in Season 2 (and re-iterated in ''Play It Again, Brian''), it was downright cruel for her to mock Brian for his romantic choices. The guy is trying to preserve his friendships with you and your husband, and your marriage, by moving on and looking for someone else, and you throw it back in his face?!
* For me, another DMOS has to be what they did with Connie's character. Originally she was just the popular [[TheLibby Libby]] character who would make fun of Meg for her efforts to try to fit in with the popular kids. But nowadays she goes out her way to tease Meg even if Meg is just minding her own business, and even though Meg honestly wanted to be friends with Connie in the past. It just was fucking cruel in the "Stew-Roids" episode where Meg shows Connie the cuts she deliberately gave herself over the years as a result of Connie's cruel treatment of her when Connie asked Meg for help to make Chris "uncool". Because in later episodes if anything even after seeing how badly Meg has been hurt by her bullying (and how Meg cuts herself as a result of it) she ''still'' treats Meg like shit, if not more so.
* Ugh, the episode ''Baby Not On Board'', we all knew Peter is an idiot but at least he has some plausible reasons for it. Here it just...I don't have the words for it but man I know I couldn't be the only person who wanted to punch out Peter for his mind blowing stupidity. But no, NO, that's not the worst of it. After all the crap he puts his family through, Lois finally blows up at him for it. And then...feels ashamed when Peter ''rebuffs'' her for it? WHAT?! No! Nononononono. {{Rule of Funny}} or not, I can't give this show that one. There are just some {{Karma Houdini}} moments I can't forgive.
** [[Tropers/UberCream Someone]] should probably elaborate for those who are curious: Lois yells at him, and Peter responds with the speech John Candy delivers in ''PlanesTrainsAndAutomobiles''. Yes, the entire speech-- almost word for word. And Lois immediately forgives him.
*** And don't forget they end it by [[DontExplainTheJoke explaining the joke]] with Chris going 'haa, movie reference'. Just in case ya didn't get it. DID YA GET IT?! He's stealing a monologue word-for-word from an infinitely better and funnier movie!...''{{Futurama}}'' can't return fast enough in [[Tropers/TheDogSage my]] opinion.
* For me, the Dethroner came in ''Padre de Familia,'' when, in a cutaway gag, it's revealed Peter didn't even know what 9/11 was until months after...he walked in, saw Lois watching the coverage with tears in her eyes, and he ''laughs and says it must be a woman pilot.'' [[DudeNotFunny THAT'S NOT F*CKING FUNNY!]]
** You'd think [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] would hold more respect for the victims of 9/11, considering he was almost one of them.
***Objection, [=~Seth MacFarlane~=] did not write that episode. Let's give the guy some credit, and assume he didn't read the script until after. But, yeah...that joke should have been vetoed quick.
*** Overruled. He voices two of the main characters; of course he read the script beforehand.
* For me, the DMOS showed up in the episode "No Chris Left Behind" when the family went to see the Nutcracker and Stewie turned to Meg and said "You know Meg, female ballet dancers are famous for anorexia and bulimia, and uh...seems to work out for them. So, hintidy hint hint." Um...ok I know Meg bashing is a RunningGag for this show but that wasn't even funny. Heck the first time I saw that part in the episode I felt disgusted. In part because I've had anorexia myself in the past, and looking back on it I
can only hope that I don't ever go down that road again. Telling Meg, who was just minding her own business, that she should develop an eating disorder...could he have acted any more like a unlikeable {{jerkass}}? Oh, and that's not the first time...he also deliberately picked at Jillian's issues with her weight and the knowledge that she has bulimia in order to get her to throw up all so he could take one of her teeth to give to the tooth fairy. And Jillian has always been genuinely nice to Stewie! Oh, and basically just the fact that Stewie was getting his daily lulz out of something as potentially life-threatening as having an eating disorder.
** That was very off putting to me as well. Another thing about the situation with Jillian's eating disorder that upset me was Brian's way of dealing with it. His girlfriend is causing serious harm to herself, but Brian doesn't do anything to help her because it makes her look "so hot" to him. What a selfish jackass.
* I think we should start listing all the worst {{Flanderization}} moments that have degraded Lois from a [[MamaBear loving mother and wife]] to a abusive shrew:
** "Go Stewie Go" had Lois trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, giving the [[DarthWiki/WallBanger wall banging]] excuse that Meg's boyfriend was trying to "rape" her when Meg caught them in the act, and then having the gall to insist that she could easily steal him away from her daughter if she wanted to during her "apology". Wasn't this [[CompleteMonster repulsive]] woman a mother?
** "Peter-assment" was an alright episode, as it
be made Peter out to be a much nicer guy than most episodes do (even counting him deciding to assault his boss), however, it finished off Lois as a likeable character for me...namely "It doesn't count as sexual harrasment if its own entry.
*Explain ''why''
it's a woman on a man"...so let me get this straight. Men don't care if someone touches them if it's a woman, because we enjoy it no matter what, even if we really can't stand the person, and we are already deeply devoted to the woman we love? And because of that, it doesn't count as sexual harrasment? Coupled with her just ignoring the fact that Meg was, in fact, sexually harrased by a teacher...for god's sake, I never wanted a character to be permanently killed off so much.
*** I'd say it's worse than that: some have noticed that Meg isn't getting as much abuse this season as before (maybe someone's been reading this page). This was, in a way, the case here, but the conversation was so obviously meant to set up either Peter or Lois laughing at and insulting Meg that it was as if the writers figured that if they can't abuse Meg, they're not going to try to write for her.
*** Oh, Lois had an even ''worse'' moment in that episode! When Peter's boss called him to harass him over the phone, Peter begs Lois to tell her (his boss) he's not home. Lois calls him a baby, then gets back on the phone and says "Peter's in the shower...touching himself to your picture." All said with a smile on her face. So Peter has no choice but to take the call. ''What the fucking hell, woman?!''
**** The level of general CharacterDerailment is at the point of no return: I was aware that what Lois did was actually quite heinous, but I just couldn't feel bad about it. Considering that the last time Peter accused someone of sexual assault was his '''doctor''' for a '''digital rectal exam''', it was impossible for me to feel empathy for him.
***** One must remember in that episode, when Peter walked in the kitchen looking traumatised, Lois asks what's wrong, to which Peter says, "I was raped." Though it's true that Peter wasn't raped, one MUST remember that Lois's first reaction to this statement is that she '''LAUGHS!''' WTF Lois?!?
*** There's also the massive gap in logic that Lois doesn't seem to care that another woman is trying to seduce her husband.
** Lois basically telling Meg that she should kill herself in the episode "Stew-Roids". At one point in the episode Lois attempted to comfort Meg who was ''denied the right to attend a party Chris was holding at their own house''. However, Lois gives up trying to comfort Meg after 45 minutes, gives her a Sylvia Plath novel, a bottle of Ambien and leaves her to her misery, saying "whatever happens, happens." All because she couldn't be bothered to spend any more of her precious time on Meg. That moment pretty much made Lois out to be the ultimate [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] in my eyes.
** In the episode "Peter's Daughter" when Meg thinks she's pregnant, she refuses to have an abortion. Lois suggests Meg consider drinking and smoking a lot to cause a miscarriage, but not to "wimp out halfway through", because Lois ended up with Chris.
*** Not to mention when Peter's actions put Meg in a coma Peter starts to feel bad and rethink how he's been treating Meg. And what does Lois tell Peter when he says he feels like he never treated Meg as well as he should have? "Oh, don't be too hard on yourself, Peter. We all do things that we're not proud of." It's just the idea that she basically doesn't think the fact that Peter put Meg into a coma is that big of a deal. [[BerserkButton F*ck THAT! It IS a big f*cking deal!]]
* The episode that consisted of Brian getting a pilot published which was then butchered by TV execs with a subplot of Stewie suffering a severe head injury and Chris and Meg have to cover it up while he's unconscious. The jokes ranged from mediocre to DudeNotFunny. I was horrified that they tried to cover up Stewie's injury by throwing him under the car while it was pulling out, and the incest joke that was included in Brian's butchered show was disgusting.
** It's completely understandable to have a subplot where a character gets knocked out and the others pretend he's okay, but when it's an ''infant'' that's knocked out, and the family shows callous disregard of the injury to the point of negligence ([[NauseaFuel maggots growing on exposed brain matter, a goddamn raccoon gnawing at the wound]]), it just goes from being in bad taste to becoming completely, unrepentantly horrible.
** I would like to to point out that was Peter who threw Stewie under that car, because he wanted to make Lois think she was behind Stewie's injury for no good reason and and that Meg was going to take Stewie to hospital but Peter stopped. This leads to another example of Lois' [[CharacterDerailment character derailment]] when she immediately suggests a cover-up, just as Peter had been doing.
* The episode where Brian got angry over the Army being allowed to try and recruit at Meg and Chris's high school was it for me. I'd had enough of him at that point.
* Peter shooting the Native American girl (who was about to be ''[[RapeAsComedy raped]]'' no less) in "April In Quahog". Might as well rename the show to ''Misogyny Guy'' at this point.
** There's also when it's implied Meg strangled a cat to death. Seriously, '''[[CharacterDerailment Meg???]]''' Great, now she's the ''FamilyGuy'' equivalent of [[NeonGenesisEvangelion Evil Manga Kaworu]].
* The episode "Dog Gone". It was pretty much just scenes of dogs getting mutilated and killed horribly, paired with an animal rights {{aesop}}. It also shows that Brian's family would love to kill and eat him to see what he tastes like, but after hearing (falsely) that he died, they still manage to be sad about it. That was the episode that ruined the rest of the series for me.
** I seriously couldn't enjoy any part of that episode. Also, I found it weird that at the town meeting, Brian was demanding that everyone stop eating meat, even though he's a dog ... an animal that is, by nature, carnivorous. Even today, a dog's diet consists mainly of meat or meat based products and Brian's always been shown eating meat throughout the series, so from where did this come?
* This may not qualify, since it was ''technically'' on ''TheClevelandShow'', but it was a crossover episode, and the [=DMoS=] moments apply to ''Family Guy'' characters. So in this episode, Cleveland finds out that his ex-wife Loretta had died, and he doesn't know why he is so sad about it, considering that he hated her in every way possible. This seems like a decent emotional plot to an episode, except for the cause of death. Quagmire travels down to Cleveland's new (old) town to tell Cleveland that [[KarmaHoudini Peter]] had accidentally dropped a T-Rex skeleton (don't ask) on Cleveland's house from Family Guy, where Loretta was living. She was in the bathtub and fell out of the house in that silly way Cleveland did a lot, except she broke her neck when the tub hit the ground. Instead of calling an ambulance, Peter stood there and laughed at her "gross boobs." This was a horrible thing to do, even for Peter.
** Oh, AND Quagmire took Loretta's dead body, put it in a French Maid costume, and then ''had sex with it'' before driving it to Cleveland's for a proper burial.
* At the end of the episode ''FOX-y Lady'', Lois reveals that she no longer works for FOX, with no explanation given to how or why, then she gives a piss poor [[LampshadeHanging excuse]] that [[ViewersAreMorons no one cares]], to make up for the writers' inability to properly end the episode. As a writer, it's your job to atleast [[HandWave attempt]] to write a proper ending.
*The 150th episode begins with another Brian and Stewie episode. Brian eats Stewie's poo. And washes it down with Stewie's puke. Then wipes Stewie with his tongue. {{Squick}} does not even begin to describe it.
**For me, it was Brian trying to pierce Stewie's ear, and getting the pin lodged inside his ear canal and getting it stuck...I mean, ''my GOD''.
**At the end of the episode Brian appears to say "I hope you enjoyed this very special episode." This merely served as adding insult to injury.
** There was also the incredibly hamfisted character drama between Stewie and Brian, especially Brian being suicidal which comes out of nowhere and is done in the most eye rollingly bad fashion imaginable. And then afterwards Brian and Stewie proclaim that they're best friends and they love each other...which makes no sense when just a few minutes earlier, Stewie made Brian eat his poop and outright said he did it just to see if he could get Brian to do it.
** I was excited to hear that the episode was supposed to have no random cutaway scenes. I wanted to see if Family Guy would be able to stand on its own without them, and boy was I not surprised. It was a 45 minute long {{bottle episode}}, taking place entirely in a bank vault. The other fifteen minutes was just old/unaired footage. Cheapest milestone event EVER.
** The episode did not even contain humor, nor make an attempt to. In a comedy show, they didn't even try to do anything funny, or even very entertaining.
** It was like they were just trying to see if they could piss off everyone watching the show...
** Considering the episode upped Brian's Sueness to previously unheard levels, brought Stewie IMMENSELY OOC, focused it solely on those two, I have a feeling it was more of a {{take that}} to everyone who complained.
**The only episode I turned off due to sheer boredom with it all, and I can't be the only one
* The episode "Quagmire's Dad" takes the Brian hate to a new level with the blatant, unprovoked one-sided "fight" between Brian and Quagmire (who I'd already lost respect for because of his TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Brian), not to mention the subsequent death threat.
** The entire plot of the episode was cringe worthy, it starts off with the portrayal of an EasySexChange that is PlayedForLaughs and {{Squick}} for the entirety of the episode. [[DidNotDoTheResearch The sex change is shown to not only change sex but do everything else as well.]] I believe the character in question even became shorter due to the operation as she is seen in heels the rest of the episode. No one in the episode sides with transsexuals, they just seem to have varying degrees of disgust regarding the whole situation. Quagmire admitting he just wants his dad to be happy is the closest thing. To top it all of, there wasn't even a real ending, Brain and Quagmire fight and then Brain says "I fucked your dad". No resolution, No {{Aesop}}, just "Hey look! Isn't this gross?"
** This episode gets frickin' worse: Lois and Peter. I'm perfectly fine with Peter being an insensitive douche but Lois is Brian's friend. I mean I know his plots are boring but they totally treated him like garbage and chased him out and then laughed and laughed about how he was dating a transsexual instead of breaking it to him gently. Peter maybe but not Lois. [[DudeNotFunny And especially not after an episode where we learn Brian was contemplating suicide. My god these writers have lost all sense of shame and decorum.]]
** This episode shows Brian's worst descent from [[OnlySaneMan the likable voice of reason]] to UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist, and then enters outright {{jerkass}} territory towards the end of the episode. He starts out needy and harbours [[SmallNameBigEgo unhealthy levels of self-importance]] when Lois isn't on-board with his every move. Upon meeting Ida, he forces a mention of the pretentious-sounding seminar he's attended to strike up a conversation, and continues to label himself a "writer" despite recent episodes showing his [[GiftedlyBad woeful ineptitude]]. Brian makes out with Ida, and presumably reach fourth base in Ida's hotel room. Upon his return home, he's pissed that Lois is unable to show genuine interest in his seminar (did he ask anyone else what they'd be up to?), but is excited to mention the woman he met last night. Sure, Lois' reaction to the photo is [[CharacterDerailment uncharacteristically harsh]], but when Brian hears from Stewie about Quagmire's (as-yet-unnamed) father having undergone gender reassignment surgery, he reacts just as brutally (and silences [[ButtMonkey Meg]] when she ''does'' ask him about the seminar). Upon {{the reveal}}, Brian's disgust is a [[{{Understatement}} protracted]] VomitIndiscretionShot that was presumably meant by the writers to appear {{squick}}y, but if we could all take a moment to consider the long-running and [[ElephantInTheLivingRoom unignorable]] quirk in the series' run of {{interspecies romance}} Brian has encountered: Ida may have a vagina that has been surgically constructed from her inverted penis, but Brian is a freakin' ''DOG''! Brian has no right to be so vomit-inducingly disgusted (or require thorough scrubbing afterward) when he discovers that his partner was not born female, when he isn't even the same species as her. To top it, yelling to Quagmire, "I fucked your dad" confirms his unwarranted prejudice, and any remaining shred of sympathy dissolves hereon. [[SarcasmMode Way to go, Brian. A real mature retort there]].
*** Sounds like another fail parody of a 90's pop reference. The Crying Game at least was treated well by ''RobotChicken''.
** Along with all this, let's not forget that Brian is the victim here, and he didn't even do anything wrong. ''He didn't know that was Quagmire's father''. And Quagmire's righteous indignation and beating of Brian is especially hypocritical when you consider the fact that there are probably hundreds of people who'd be far more justified in beating '''him''' half to death for raping them and/or their loved ones. Or maybe one of those children he's fathered, but never sees, could give him a good beating.
*** Me personally, this was the episode where I gave up on Quagmire. Yes, I could agree with some of what he said in "Jerome is the New Black" (even IF it made Brian cry), but '''senselessly beating the crap out of somebody who had no idea of what he did was wrong, and didn't EVEN want to fight back (and was RUNNING AWAY IN FEAR)''' is... just... WOW. Seriously, if there a REASON for causing friction between Quagmire and Brian, ok, fine. ...but god damn, Seth...
**** The entire reason of Quagmire beating Brian makes no sense to me. Is it normal practice in {{Eagleland}} to attack your ugh... mother's boyfriend? It looks like they just thought it would be cool make Glenn beating Brian. But [[ConfusingMultipleNegatives it's not just not funny]] it's not even an attempt to be funny. It's just horrible.
* "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". If they were going for RefugeInAudacity, they failed, because [[SomebodyElsesProblem that is]] ''[[SomebodyElsesProblem exactly]]'' [[SomebodyElsesProblem how if works in]] RealLife. It's disturbing to watch and made me feel sick.
** The joke itself was pretty funny (Ha, Dr. Seuss wrote a book named "[[HortonHearsAWho Horton]] Hears DomesticAbuse and Doesn't Call 911". This makes no sense, why would someone write such book for children? Thats makes me laugh) ManateeGag just ruined it. It didn't add anything but disturbing context.
** [[Tropers/CabbitGirlEmi I]] was really shocked when I first witnessed that cutaway, so nowadays, I would change the channel for a few seconds. They could've thought of a less painful cutaway to fill 22 minutes?
* All the put downs towards women in "The Splendid Source" literally made this troper say, "screw you" to her television.
** Seconded. I had given up on Family Guy, but decided to give IT one more chance. I thought this episode was kind of funny. Then I got up to the point where Peter is in the room with the smartest people in the room, and smugly comments, "Not a lot of women." Well, this woman is smart enough to skip this show and its lazy, misogynistic writers.
* I happen to be politically conservative, and swore off ''Family Guy'' after about seven seasons' worth of straw man arguments. Stewie in a Nazi uniform with a "[=McCain=]/Palin" button? Check. Peter repeating "We should bomb Iraq" at the 9/11 memorial? Check. I literally threw my ''Family Guy'' DVDs away.
** Dude, Tropers/MacPhisto is a borderline '''MARXIST''', and even he is disgusted by Seth's endless left-wing strawmanship (gives the rest of us a bad name). I believe that Sarah Palin is the worst thing to happen to this country since it was founded, and even I think "comparing-Republicans-to-Nazis" is both in bad taste and incredibly stupid.
* "Patriot Games", home of the infamous "Where's my money?" scene and the infamous "Shipoopi" scene. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the second scene was parodied five years later in a clip show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to do "Shipoopi" again.
* The episode "Partial Terms of Endearment" (Unaired by FOX) made me so disappointed and disturbed. Not like I have anything to do with pro-life, but somehow they managed to convince me that probably they won't do abortion. I thought "Oh, it's like season finale, maybe they decided to add new character to family with hilarity and heartwarming ensuing. That must be great, [[TheScrappy even if it won't]] things can't get worse" [[StatusQuoIsGod but no]].
** What's even more offensive is the way Peter keeps trying to induce an abortion on Lois.
** It gets even worse when Peter, for the sole purpose of providing a counter argument, is persuaded to become pro life after a 30 second video clip, even by his standards of stupidity, that's too ridiculous. Especially when he went from trying to kill the baby several times to being against abortion in the event of incest, genetic disorders, and even rape. What the fuck?
*** This is made even worse, because abortion is a serious topic, and having the [[StrawmanPolitical dumbest character on the show become the anti abortion strawman]] for no reason is completely offensive to a serious issue.
* This is going to be controversal: In one episode, Peter gets shipwrecked and Brian becomes Lois' new husband. We see that Brian has sexual interest in Lois, but she refuses to do youknowwhat, even though he is a way better father than Peter. In the end, Lois is together with Peter again and NOW she tells Brian that sie did wanted to move their beds together, elaborating on what kinds of things she would have liked to do with him. Don't get me wrong, dog-on-woman is creepy and just gross. But do you really have to tease him with this? Goddammit, he got your daughter a date with a famous sports reporter (which had one of the few funny lines in this episode BTW)! It just feels like she was saying "Yeah, you were nice, but I don't feel like you should be rewarded for it. So FUCK YOU!" This scene makes me want to pay somebody to do a Flash animation in which Lois gets repeatedly stabbed with a rusty knife.
*"Go Stewie Go". The episode was basically justifying Lois and her [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Wallbanging]] motivation of trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, being so selfish to ignore the fact that this was apparently the first normal guy Meg has ever dated (which the episode also goes out of its way to exaggeratedly point this out). Does she take a moment to respect her daughter? (or her husband, [[NegativeContinuity but she's already cheated on him before]], [[SoYeah so...]]) No! She just continues on in her already {{Scrappy}} {{Flanderization}}. [[KarmaHoudini And she gets off the whole ordeal]] with giving a simple (and horrible) apology to Meg and Peter ([[SarcasmMode wait ''silly me'']] she didn't apologise to Peter, [[WallBanger '''she blamed him''' for the whole thing!]]).
**The A-plot of "Go Stewie Go", I understand they were trying to do "Tootsie", but seriously, all they did was replace "soap opera" with "kids' show." That's it, that's all it it was, other than the "band aid" gag, there was ZERO originality.
**Peter exhibiting incestuous attraction towards Meg in the episode "Go Stewie Go" was downright disgusting and made this troper rather uncomfortable, especially when he made Meg kiss him on the lips. Given that Peter is already filling in the verbal and physical abuse aspects of being an [[AbusiveParents abusive parent]] we can now add sexual abuse as well!
**But the ultimate [=DMoS=] of the episode was the bar scene. [[FridgeLogic Did Brian just try and hit on a baby girl?]] It may
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*The episode was basically justifying Lois and her [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Wallbanging]] motivation of trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, being so selfish to ignore the fact that this was apparently the first normal guy Meg has ever dated (which the episode also goes out of its way to exaggeratedly point this out). Does she take a moment to respect her daughter? (or her husband, [[NegativeContinuity but she's already cheated on him before]], [[SoYeah so...]]) No! She just continues on in her already {{Scrappy}} {{Flanderization}}. [[KarmaHoudini And she gets off the whole ordeal]] with giving a simple (and horrible) apology to Meg and Peter ([[SarcasmMode wait ''silly me'']] she didn't apologise to Peter, [[WallBanger '''she blamed him''' for the whole thing!]]).
*The A-plot of "Go Stewie Go", I understand they were trying to do "Tootsie", but seriously, all they did was replace "soap opera" with "kids' show." That's it, that's all it it was, other than the "band aid" gag, there was ZERO originality.
*Peter exhibiting incestuous attraction towards Meg in the episode "Go Stewie Go" was downright disgusting and made this troper rather uncomfortable, especially when he made Meg kiss him on the lips. Given that Peter is already filling in the verbal and physical abuse aspects of being an [[AbusiveParents abusive parent]] we can now add sexual abuse as well!
*But the ultimate [=DMoS=] of the episode was the bar scene. [[FridgeLogic Did Brian just try and hit on a baby girl?]] It may have been Stewie in drag, sure, but [[CompletelyMissingThePoint the point of the costume was to fool the producers that he was ''A ONE YEAR OLD GIRL!'']] Wouldn't Brian ''also'' think that this is [[{{Squick}} a ONE YEAR OLD's hand]] that he's trying to place on his ''[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean other tail?]]''
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*"Go Stewie Go". The episode was basically justifying Lois and her [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Wallbanging]] motivation of trying to fuck Meg's boyfriend, being so selfish to ignore the fact that this was apparently the first normal guy Meg has ever dated (which the episode also goes out of its way to exaggeratedly point this out). Does she take a moment to respect her daughter? (or her husband, [[NegativeContinuity but she's already cheated on him before]], [[SoYeah so...]]) No! She just continues on in her already {{Scrappy}} {{Flanderization}}. [[KarmaHoudini And she gets off the whole ordeal]] with giving a simple (and horrible) apology to Meg and Peter ([[SarcasmMode wait ''silly me'']] she didn't apologise to Peter, [[WallBanger '''she blamed him''' for the whole thing!]]).
**The A-plot of "Go Stewie Go", I understand they were trying to do "Tootsie", but seriously, all they did was replace "soap opera" with "kids' show." That's it, that's all it it was, other than the "band aid" gag, there was ZERO originality.
**Peter exhibiting incestuous attraction towards Meg in the episode "Go Stewie Go" was downright disgusting and made this troper rather uncomfortable, especially when he made Meg kiss him on the lips. Given that Peter is already filling in the verbal and physical abuse aspects of being an [[AbusiveParents abusive parent]] we can now add sexual abuse as well!
**But the ultimate [=DMoS=] of the episode was the bar scene. [[FridgeLogic Did Brian just try and hit on a baby girl?]] It may have been Stewie in drag, sure, but [[CompletelyMissingThePoint the point of the costume was to fool the producers that he was ''A ONE YEAR OLD GIRL!'']] Wouldn't Brian ''also'' think that this is [[{{Squick}} a ONE YEAR OLD's hand]] that he's trying to place on his ''[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean other tail?]]''
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*Hey, [=MacFarlane=], we fucking get it, you hate Jews. Enough already, okay? Really seriously getting a little sick of how much we need to hear about how much you hate Jews. Honest. Don't really need to hear Stewie smarming right at the camera about how God will kick the Jews' ass for killing Jesus. Wow. Fucking seriously, we're going to go with that bit? Really? From Stewie, not from Peter, we're really going to go with "Jews killed Christ." Well hello there, Irish Catholic Bullshit, how the hell are you.

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*Hey, [=MacFarlane=], we fucking get it, you hate Jews. Enough already, okay? Really seriously getting a little sick of how much we need to hear about how much you hate Jews. Honest. Don't really need to hear Stewie smarming right at the camera about how God will kick the Jews' ass for killing Jesus. Wow. Fucking seriously, we're going to go with that bit? Really? From Stewie, not from Peter, we're really going to go with "Jews killed Christ." Well hello there, Irish Catholic Bullshit, how the hell are you."
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** Seconded. I had given up on Family Guy, but decided to give IT one more chance. I thought this episode was kind of funny. Then I got up to the point where Peter is in the room with the smartest people in the room, and smugly comments, "Not a lot of women." Well, this woman is smart enough to skip this show and its lazy, misogynistic writers.
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*** Overruled. He voices two of the main characters; of course he read the script beforehand.

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