History DethroningMoment / AvatarTheLastAirBender

emilefl: "Imprisoned" is one of my least favorite episode of the show for how disjointed it's tone feel. It's premise is that fire nations soldiers took a bunch of earthbenders and keep them imprisoned on a ship in the middle of the sea where they can't escape, breaking their fighting spirit to the point where even when they do have the means to fight back they don't do it. Sound like something with a lot of emotianal potential right?[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot Except none of it is taken seriously]]. The Gaang plan to enter the prison only work because the fire nation soldiers are complete idiots and even when we get on the ship and witness how miserable the prisonners are, the warden acting like a goofball prevent me from taking any of it seriously. [[AuthorsSavingThrow At least we got a better prison escape plot in season 3 with "The Boiling Rock"]].

emilefl "Imprisoned" is one of my least favorite episode of the show for how disjointed it's tone feel. It's premise is that fire nations soldiers took a bunch of earthbenders and keep them imprisoned on a ship in the middle of the sea where they can't escape, breaking their fighting spirit to the point where even when they do have the means to fight back they don't do it. Sound like something with a lot of emotianal potential right?[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot Except none of it is taken seriously]]. The Gaang plan to enter the prison only work because the fire nation soldiers are complete idiots and even when we get on the ship and witness how miserable the prisonners are, the warden acting like a goofball prevent me from taking any of it seriously. [[AuthorsSavingThrow At least we got a better prison escape plot in season 3 with "The Boiling Rock"]].

emilefl "Imprisoned" is one of my least favorite episode of the show for how disjointed it's tone feel. It's premise is that fire nations soldiers took a bunch of earthbenders and keep them imprisoned on a ship in the middle of the sea where they can't escape, breaking their fighting spirit to the point where even when they do have the means to fight back they don't do it. Sound like something with a lot of emotianal potential right?[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot Except non of it is taken seriously]]. The Gaang plan to enter the prison only work because the fire nation soldiers are complete idiots and even when we get on the ship and witness how miserable the prisonners are, the warden acting like a goofball prevent me from taking any of it seriously. [[AuthorsSavingThrow At least we got a better prison escape plot in season 3 with "The Boiling Rock"]].

emilefl "Imprisoned" is one of my least favorite episode of the show for how disjointed it's tone feel. It's premise is that fire nations soldiers took a bunch of earthbenders and keep them imprisoned on a ship in the middle of the sea where they can't escape, breaking their fighting spirit to the point where even when they do have the means to fight back they don't do it. Sound like something with a lot of emotianal potential right?[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot Except non of it is taken seriously]]. The Gaang plan to enter the prison only work because the fire nation soldiers are complete idiots and even when we get on the ship and witness how miserable the prisonners are, the warden acting like a goofball prevent me from taking any of it seriously. [[AuthorSavingThrow At least we got a better prison escape plot in season 3 with "The Boiling Rock"]].

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* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: "Ember Island Players" doesn't even come close to being my favorite episode. But, I can acknowledge a few of its strengths even then (such as Toph's and Zuko's talk, which was sweet). The DMoS for me was the mocking of Zutara in the play. I'm not a shipper of it, and I can accept that the creators do not like it. That far I'm willing to agree. What I can not tolerate however is to trash talk the fans by openly disowning it on the show. It's like when a fan runs up to you to gush how much they love you and you just blow a raspberry in their face. Think about this, Bryke; why do they ship Zutara? Because they love your show, they like to engage in it. It's very rude and arrogant to mock your fans' preferences, even if you don't agree. Stop butting in to their business and just let them enjoy whatever they want. It wasn't going to be canon anyway, so why are you kicking a person who's already down? This made me lose a great deal of respect for Bryke, and from the shitty writing of Legend of Korra, it was gone entirely.

Given [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender the show's]] reputation as one of the best [[Creator/Nickelodeon]] series ever made and [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra its sequel]] being considered just as great, it is hardly surprising that there will be times when fans wish that these moments will be bended out of existence.

Given [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender the show's]] reputation as one of the best cartoon series ever made and [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra its sequel]] being considered pretty great as well, it is hardly surprising that there will be times when fans wish that these moments will be bended out of existence.

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** Tropers/{{Sunchet}}: Just to make things EVEN worse, other character also shows sign of abusive behavior: Lin Fong said she trashed Tenzin's house after he broke up with her. And lets remember, she's suppose to be completely sane and positive character. To see such [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale disgusting trope]] show up in Avatar of all places, show that works so hard to portray women as equal to men... It's just repugnant.

* Troper/{{BrightLight}}: "The Chase". Simply because Toph was an unhelpful brat who wouldn't pitch in with teamwork even when Azula and her cronies are closing in on Team Avatar. Nope, Toph has gotta hang back while everyone else is getting frantic. And if she's so competent, why does she only point out that it's Appa's shedding that's giving Team Avatar's position away when it's nearly too late to do something about it? Then Toph continues to refuse any responsibility, and picks fights with Katara and Aang. To top it all off, Toph never learns that she has to be responsible - and Iroh and Sokka give her their support. WHAT THE HELL WERE THE WRITERS TRYING TO SHOVE DOWN OUR THROATS HERE? To be a spoiled, lazy, stuck-up brat like Toph? Honestly, "The Chase" is hands-down THE WORST EPISODE OUT OF THE ENTIRE SHOW for me. Worse than "The Ember Island Players". Worse than "The Great Divide". And Toph is overrated and pretty much the worst member of Team Avatar. Even Zuko ends up nicer than her by the time the show ends. Screw Toph and screw this episode!!!

* Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: "Ember Island Players" doesn't even come close to being my favorite episode. But, I can acknowledge a few of its strengths even then (such as Toph's and Zuko's talk, which was sweet). But for me, it was the mocking of Zutara. I'm not a shipper of it, and I can accept that the creators do not like it. That far I'm willing to agree. What I can not tolerate however is to trash talk the fans of their show by openly disowning it. It's like when a fan runs up to you to gush how much they love you and then you just blow a raspberry in their face. Think about this, Bryke; why do they ship Zutara? Because they love your show, they like to engage in it. It's very rude and arrogant to mock your fans' preferences, even if you don't agree. Stop butting in to their business and just let them enjoy whatever it want. It wasn't going to be canon anyway, so why are you kicking a person who's already down? This made me lose a great deal of respect for Bryke, and by the shitty writing of Legend of Korra, it was gone entirely.

** Tropers/{{KashimaKitty}}: It also gets my DMoS rating for one particular reason. Before Aang receives the map, we see quite clearly, blatantly, that he's being ignored repeatedly by Sokka and Katara. If it was simply Aang being insecure this episode would be more forgiven, but it's quite clear that Aang has a justified reason for thinking that his friends would leave him to go find their father. Combine that with the above problems and you have a conflict that would be less out of place on a show like Family Guy.

** Tropers/{{CaellachTigerEye}}: Considering that Azula broke the rules of the Agni Kai (by attacking the spectator), it's quite clear to me that Zuko won that match (being a 1-on-1, Azula had pretty much surrendered the match legally and would only get the throne by default if Zuko had died). This is kind of funny, because it contradicts Iroh - had Katara not been there, Azula would've been completely screwed by her less-talented brother - so I disagree on the above poster's point... Of course, this itself wrecks havoc with Katara, because the writers gave her pretty much nothing to do in the GrandFinale except defeat Azula. And while I like that she won using clever tactics against an overpowered opponent (and not, she did not beat Azula prior to this, at least not without fighting alongside others as in "The Chase") it still feels like she could've contributed more in the airship-raid or something (since Azula banished so many servants, conveniently making Zuko and Katara's efforts considerably easier than Sokka, Toph and Suki's). I suppose the reason they had Katara go with Zuko were because they had a joint {{Deuteragonist}} role and they were facing TheDragon, so to speak... but it still kind (not too much, though) feels like a DesignatedGirlFight. While far from the worst moment in the series, the fact that two of the most important characters were given so little to do in the Final Battle is... kind of anticlimactic, something I always sort of felt even without any cynicism clouding my judgement.
*** I am coming back to clear when I mentioned Katara won over Azula, I am the same guy but different computer, lost my account with the old computer Tropers/{{Rowlomir}}. In "The crossroads of Destiny" Katara paralyzed one of Azula's legs until Zuko attacks her and by changing enemies they end up winning the duel, but you can clearly see in that battle that Katara's waterbending is already a match for Azula in her prime, so no matter the comet Azula is crazy in the final duel, there is nothing to do against Katara; also like other trooper said below, at the end Zuko doesn't win because he's better, he only wins because she's unstable or so you might think, after the lovely battle in "Southern Raiders" it feels like a lazy effort to finish their relation. Again ,as someone else said, the problem is they had nothing for Katara to do, her battle was already over somehow, I kinda wish they sent her to the Capitol and she freeing Ty Lee and Mai could give better closure for the three girls, here she feels forced, I also adhere to the Ozai theory, there are a lot of people dying in the sky battle -if I remember correctly because I never watched the finale again and it's been six years now- and Aang cannot care about them, it all feels hypocritical and respectful and nothing else.

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** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: Seconded. I'm not a big fan of LGBT being forced into a cartoon because it feels more like a political statement than anything else - but this moment took the cake, no question. I could've taken it with a pinch of salt if there had been a realistic build-up to them getting together, but there was none, because they had originally planned for there to be no final couples. Doesn't that say a lot about the writers' attitude towards the subject? "Hey, let's throw in some politically correct bullshit while we're at it, that will win people over.", "Excellent idea!" It was a really cheap and greedy way of pandering to the LGBT fanbase. At least WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse (Though I personally don't see the characters as lesbians, I see them as space rocks with no clarified gender) handled this with more dignity and less obnoxious attention-grabbing crud. Also, as icing on the cake, what does people now remember about LoK? "That show ending with the lesbians", not as a sequel to the original series. Way to dig your own grave, Bryke.

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** Tropers/{{Blazar}}: The treatment of the relationship between Bolin and Ginger. One of the things I really loved about ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' was that it actually addressed issues of gender equality without getting {{Anvilicious}} about it--in ''Avatar'', female characters were treated as people rather than prizes for the men, and weren't afraid to remind anyone who thought otherwise that they could kick just as much ass as their male companions. Meanwhile, in ''Korra'', a character who's supposed to be the NiceGuy not only forces a kiss on an unwilling woman who explicitly tells him "no" and insists that she must have liked it, he learns absolutely nothing about respect or boundaries and [[UnfortunateImplications is ultimately rewarded by the narrative for his sleazy sexual harassment]]. Seriously, [[WhatTheHellHero What the Hell, Writers?]] ''Korra'' might take place after ''Avatar'', but it's as if the values have moved backward by a good 50 years.

** Tropers/{{Wildstar93}}: Hey, I also like the show, but the episode turned into one of my least favorite episodes ever. It's the part when Aang hides the map of Hakoda from Sokka and Katara. Yeah, Aang sure did something stupid like that, but you know what happens when he tells his friends? Do they talk about it? No! Instead, Sokka snaps at him and basically calls him a traitor and abandons him! And I know family's important to him and Katara, and Sokka has a reason to be upset, but was abandoning Aang like that necessary? Now every time I watch this episode on the DVD, I always skip that part.

** Tropers/MelancholyUtopia: Seconded. I'm not a big fan of LGBT being forced into a cartoon because it feels like a political statement than anything else - but this moment took the cake, no question. I could've taken it with a pinch of salt if there had been a realistic build-up to them getting together, but there was none, because they had originally planned for there to be no final couples. Doesn't that say a lot about the writer's attitude towards the subject? "Hey, let's throw in some politically correct bullshit while we're at it, that will win people over.", "Excellent idea!" It was a really cheap and greedy way of pandering to the LGBT fanbase. At least WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse (Though I personally don't see the characters as lesbians, I see them as space rocks with no clarified gender) handled this with more dignity and less obnoxious attention-grabbing crud. Also, as icing on the cake, what does people now remember about LoK? "That show ending with the lesbians", not as a sequel to the original series. Way to dig your own grave, Bryke.

* Season Two has a LOT of problems, but what really struck this troper was how Bumi apologized to Aang for NOT BEING AN AIRBENDER. WHAT THE FUCK? That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If your child is apologizing for something that is completely out of control, then you have really screwed up as a parent. It's like someone apologizing for having a genetic disease. Heck, it's worse than that because there is nothing wrong with Bumi whatsoever. He shows that you can b awesome and be connected to the spirits even without fancy powers. But the this awesome bit is subverted when he gets airbending powers after harmonic convergence. UGH! It's really no wonder that I don't regard LoK as canon.