History DarkerAndEdgier / LiveActionTV

22nd Feb '17 8:30:27 AM Larkmarn
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* Days of our lives: Billie Reeds Drug abuse plot is darker and edger include dreaming of her father Curtis why she is on drugs.
15th Feb '17 6:49:38 AM mega95gox
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** ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' might have a bright fruit theme to it, but its head writer is Creator/GenUrobuchi of ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' infamy. For those not familiar with ''Madoka Magica'', the fact that he's nicknamed [[AnyoneCanDie "Urobutcher"]] and that he specifically named ''Black, Ryuki'' and ''Faiz'' as influences on ''Gaim'' should start ringing alarm bells. It starts out with Deconstructions of {{Mons}} and the KidHero before getting to a situation similar to ''Ryuki'' with multiple Riders of which only Gaim himself has a fully functional moral compass; the rest range from {{AntiVillain}}s using questionable methods for good goals to {{Social Darwinist}}s pursuing power at any cost to a {{Jerkass}} who uses his influence to pick on children. But the real trap was sprung a quarter of the way in: [[spoiler:a supporting character is turned into a monster, but unlike other recent Rider series he ''isn't saved'' and is killed despite Gaim's best efforts. The one who did the deed proceeds to rub it in by stating he did a heroic thing by eliminating a threat to innocents. And even as Gaim asserts that he [[ThouShaltNotKill can't kill]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman a human]], we find out that some of the monsters are ''also'' transformed humans - one (the first one he faced, in fact) was even a friend of his that had gone missing.]] A few episodes later makes it even worse - [[spoiler:it's a CosmicHorrorStory, the thing making the monsters had already overtaken at least one alien world (meaning that even the monsters that weren't once human were still people), and Earth will likely be overtaken within ten years.]] And had Urobuchi removed all of its lighthearted moments, ''Gaim'' becomes a full-blown {{Tragedy}} to the point of being the darkest and [[BloodierAndGorier goriest]] Rider show in the franchise's history, complete with a very disturbing DownerEnding.

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** ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' might have a bright fruit theme to it, but its head writer is Creator/GenUrobuchi of ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' infamy. For those not familiar with ''Madoka Magica'', the fact that he's nicknamed [[AnyoneCanDie "Urobutcher"]] and that he specifically named ''Black, Ryuki'' and ''Faiz'' as influences on ''Gaim'' should start ringing alarm bells. It starts out with Deconstructions of {{Mons}} and the KidHero before getting to a situation similar to ''Ryuki'' with multiple Riders of which only Gaim himself has a fully functional moral compass; the rest range from {{AntiVillain}}s using questionable methods for good goals to {{Social Darwinist}}s pursuing power at any cost to a {{Jerkass}} who uses his influence to pick on children. But the real trap was sprung a quarter of the way in: [[spoiler:a supporting character is turned into a monster, but unlike other recent Rider series he ''isn't saved'' and is killed despite Gaim's best efforts. The one who did the deed proceeds to rub it in by stating he did a heroic thing by eliminating a threat to innocents. And even as Gaim asserts that he [[ThouShaltNotKill can't kill]] [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman a human]], we find out that some of the monsters are ''also'' transformed humans - one (the first one he faced, in fact) was even a friend of his that had gone missing.]] A few episodes later makes it even worse - [[spoiler:it's a CosmicHorrorStory, the thing making the monsters had already overtaken at least one alien world (meaning that even the monsters that weren't once human were still people), and Earth will likely be overtaken within ten years.]] And had Had Urobuchi removed all of its lighthearted moments, ''Gaim'' becomes a full-blown {{Tragedy}} to the point of being the darkest and [[BloodierAndGorier goriest]] Rider show in the franchise's history, complete with a very disturbing DownerEnding.
15th Feb '17 6:48:00 AM mega95gox
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15th Feb '17 6:47:28 AM mega95gox
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** ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'' is just as bad as either ''Ryuki'', ''Faiz'', or even ''Gaim''. Bugsters are SeriousBusiness, most of the Riders are either amoral [[AntiHero Anti-Heroes]] or flat-out [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], a special surgery is required to become a Rider, the [[spoiler: Proto Gashats]] having severe side effects if overused, [[spoiler:a Rider being killed off early]], and as of Episode 14, [[spoiler:the main character is suffering from the "Game Disease"]]. The main villains are also generally very competent and are often one step ahead of the Riders, making the fight very difficult for them. ''Ex-Aid'' is pretty much the closest thing the audience get to a ''Kamen Rider'' version of a DarkerAndEdgier gaming anime.

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** ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'' is just as bad as arguably darker than either ''Ryuki'', ''Faiz'', or even ''Gaim''. Bugsters are SeriousBusiness, most of the Riders are either amoral [[AntiHero Anti-Heroes]] or flat-out [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], a special surgery is required to become a Rider, the [[spoiler: Proto Gashats]] having severe side effects if overused, [[spoiler:a Rider being killed off early]], and as of Episode 14, [[spoiler:the main character is suffering from the "Game Disease"]]. The main villains are also generally very competent and are often one step ahead of the Riders, making the fight very difficult for them. ''Ex-Aid'' is pretty much the closest thing the audience get to a ''Kamen Rider'' version of a DarkerAndEdgier gaming anime.
14th Feb '17 7:44:30 AM n3xus
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* ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' has had several rather dark entries; among them are ''Series/DengekiSentaiChangeman'', ''Series/HikariSentaiMaskman'', ''Series/ChoujuuSentaiLiveman'', ''Series/ChoujinSentaiJetman'', ''Series/GoseiSentaiDairanger'', ''Series/MiraiSentaiTimeranger'', and ''Series/JukenSentaiGekiranger''.

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* ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' has had several rather dark entries; among them are ''Series/JAKQDengekitai'', ''Series/DengekiSentaiChangeman'', ''Series/HikariSentaiMaskman'', ''Series/ChoujuuSentaiLiveman'', ''Series/ChoujinSentaiJetman'', ''Series/GoseiSentaiDairanger'', ''Series/MiraiSentaiTimeranger'', and ''Series/JukenSentaiGekiranger''.
10th Feb '17 4:46:30 AM StatuesqueRangale
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*Days of our lives: Billie Reeds Drug abuse plot is darker and edger include dreaming of her father Curtis why she is on drugs.
29th Jan '17 8:37:53 AM Josef5678
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* ''Series/MagnumPI'' was a happy-fun private eye show until Magnum asked a Russian spy: "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7vW1oEKP1k ...Ivan, did you see the sunrise?]]" Ivan, who had previously tortured Magnum and a couple of his buddies in a POW camp in VietNam, planted a bomb in Magnum's car. The bomb killed one Magnum's friends, who had suggested a drive to watch the sunrise. Magnum caught Ivan but Ivan was immune from prosecution; Magnum threatened him, but Ivan said "you can't shoot me like this. I'm unarmed. You're too much of a good guy." Magnum asked Ivan "did you see the sunrise?" When Ivan said "yes," Magnum shot him in cold blood, right in the face.

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* ''Series/MagnumPI'' was a happy-fun private eye show until Magnum asked a Russian spy: "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7vW1oEKP1k ...Ivan, did you see the sunrise?]]" Ivan, who had previously tortured Magnum and a couple of his buddies in a POW camp in VietNam, UsefulNotes/{{Vietnam}}, planted a bomb in Magnum's car. The bomb killed one Magnum's friends, who had suggested a drive to watch the sunrise. Magnum caught Ivan but Ivan was immune from prosecution; Magnum threatened him, but Ivan said "you can't shoot me like this. I'm unarmed. You're too much of a good guy." Magnum asked Ivan "did you see the sunrise?" When Ivan said "yes," Magnum shot him in cold blood, right in the face.
29th Jan '17 7:54:23 AM Sullivan
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* ''Series/MagnumPI'' was a happy-fun private eye show until Magnum asked a Russian spy: "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7vW1oEKP1k ...Ivan, did you see the sunrise?]]" Ivan, who had previously tortured Magnum and a couple of his buddies in a POW camp in VietNam, planted a bomb in Magnum's car. The bomb killed one Magnum's friends, who had suggested a drive to watch the sunrise. Magnum caught Ivan but Ivan was immune from prosecution; Magnum threatened him, but Ivan said "you can't shoot me like this. I'm unarmed. You're too much of a good guy." Magnum asked Ivan "did you see the sunrise?" When Ivan said "yes," Magnum shot him in cold blood, right in the face.
27th Jan '17 2:14:51 AM LondonKdS
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' spent some time being notably darker than its already dark source material, ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''. Whereas the show likes to focus on the violence and sex (and rape), and famously declaring "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.", the books remain idealistic, with several of the shows more cynical characters still attempting to be heroes. This was then reversed as soon as the series [[OvertookTheManga Overtook the Novels]], with the sixth season showing good guys actually achieving concrete things, and some of the novel series' more notorious {{Karma Houdini}}s actually getting defeated.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' spent some time being notably darker than its already dark source material, ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''. Whereas the show likes to focus on the violence and sex (and rape), and famously declaring "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.", the books remain idealistic, with several of the shows more cynical characters still attempting to be heroes. This was then reversed as soon as the series [[OvertookTheManga Overtook the Novels]], with the sixth season showing good guys actually achieving concrete things, and some of the novel series' more notorious {{Karma Houdini}}s and {{Invincible Villain}}s actually getting defeated.
27th Jan '17 2:12:48 AM LondonKdS
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' is notably darker than its already dark source material, ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''. Whereas the show likes to focus on the violence and sex (and rape), and famously declaring "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.", the books remain idealistic, with several of the shows more cynical characters still attempting to be heroes.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' is spent some time being notably darker than its already dark source material, ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''. Whereas the show likes to focus on the violence and sex (and rape), and famously declaring "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.", the books remain idealistic, with several of the shows more cynical characters still attempting to be heroes. This was then reversed as soon as the series [[OvertookTheManga Overtook the Novels]], with the sixth season showing good guys actually achieving concrete things, and some of the novel series' more notorious {{Karma Houdini}}s actually getting defeated.
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