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21st Aug '16 11:32:27 AM MovieNut14
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** The ''Twelfth'' Doctor though...Series 8 alone had Clara and the Doctor having numerous arguments, her throwing his TARDIS keys into a volcano in an attempt to blackmail him over [[spoiler: her boyfriend's death]] (good thing it was in a dream state), and the season's BigBad imprisoning dead people in a false Heaven (a stretch that included the infamous "Don't cremate me" line) as a precursor to turning them into an army of Cybermen. Creator/PeterCapaldi also gives a far darker portrayal of the Doctor than the last couple of incarnations; this one isn't quite as afraid of people dying anymore. Over time it becomes clear he is actually amazingly empathetic and compassionate, and he grows warmer and more whimsical in Series 9...just in time for near-nonstop emotional trauma involving many near-death experiences for him ''and'' Clara and the long-term consequences of many of his decisions. This culminates in a three-episode closing arc in which his inability to cope with both a cruel betrayal and [[spoiler: Clara's actual death]], exacerbated by imprisonment in a torture chamber, result in him temporarily becoming TheUnfettered WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds. A most BittersweetEnding follows.

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** *** The ''Twelfth'' Doctor though...Series 8 alone had Clara and the Doctor having numerous arguments, her throwing his TARDIS keys into a volcano in an attempt to blackmail him over [[spoiler: her boyfriend's death]] (good thing it was in a dream state), and the season's BigBad imprisoning dead people in a false Heaven (a stretch that included the infamous "Don't cremate me" line) as a precursor to turning them into an army of Cybermen. Creator/PeterCapaldi also gives a far darker portrayal of the Doctor than the last couple of incarnations; this one isn't quite as afraid of people dying anymore. Over time it becomes clear he is actually amazingly empathetic and compassionate, and he grows warmer and more whimsical in Series 9...just in time for near-nonstop emotional trauma involving many near-death experiences for him ''and'' Clara and the long-term consequences of many of his decisions. This culminates in a three-episode closing arc in which his inability to cope with both a cruel betrayal and [[spoiler: Clara's actual death]], exacerbated by imprisonment in a torture chamber, result in him temporarily becoming TheUnfettered WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds. A most BittersweetEnding follows.
21st Aug '16 11:31:38 AM MovieNut14
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** When Creator/StevenMoffat became the head writer and the Eleventh Doctor was introduced, the whole show became quite a bit darker, deconstructing the Doctor's MO and featuring a StoryArc in which his enemies sincerely believe he will be the undoing of the universe. Interestingly, while the stories get darker, the whimsical character of the Eleventh Doctor and Moff's sitcom-esque dialog maintained humor. The ''Twelfth'' Doctor though...Series 8 alone had Clara and the Doctor having numerous arguments, her throwing his TARDIS keys into a volcano in an attempt to blackmail him over [[spoiler: her boyfriend's death]] (good thing it was in a dream state), and the season's BigBad imprisoning dead people in a false Heaven (a stretch that included the infamous "Don't cremate me" line) as a precursor to turning them into an army of Cybermen. Creator/PeterCapaldi also gives a far darker portrayal of the Doctor than the last couple of incarnations; this one isn't quite as afraid of people dying anymore. Over time it becomes clear he is actually amazingly empathetic and compassionate, and he grows warmer and more whimsical in Series 9...just in time for near-nonstop emotional trauma involving many near-death experiences for him ''and'' Clara and the long-term consequences of many of his decisions. This culminates in a three-episode closing arc in which his inability to cope with both a cruel betrayal and [[spoiler: Clara's actual death]], exacerbated by imprisonment in a torture chamber, result in him temporarily becoming TheUnfettered WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds. A most BittersweetEnding follows.

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** When Creator/StevenMoffat became the head writer and the Eleventh Doctor was introduced, the whole show became quite a bit darker, deconstructing the Doctor's MO and featuring a StoryArc in which his enemies sincerely believe he will be the undoing of the universe. Interestingly, while the stories get darker, the whimsical character of the Eleventh Doctor and Moff's sitcom-esque dialog maintained humor. humor.
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The ''Twelfth'' Doctor though...Series 8 alone had Clara and the Doctor having numerous arguments, her throwing his TARDIS keys into a volcano in an attempt to blackmail him over [[spoiler: her boyfriend's death]] (good thing it was in a dream state), and the season's BigBad imprisoning dead people in a false Heaven (a stretch that included the infamous "Don't cremate me" line) as a precursor to turning them into an army of Cybermen. Creator/PeterCapaldi also gives a far darker portrayal of the Doctor than the last couple of incarnations; this one isn't quite as afraid of people dying anymore. Over time it becomes clear he is actually amazingly empathetic and compassionate, and he grows warmer and more whimsical in Series 9...just in time for near-nonstop emotional trauma involving many near-death experiences for him ''and'' Clara and the long-term consequences of many of his decisions. This culminates in a three-episode closing arc in which his inability to cope with both a cruel betrayal and [[spoiler: Clara's actual death]], exacerbated by imprisonment in a torture chamber, result in him temporarily becoming TheUnfettered WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds. A most BittersweetEnding follows.
1st Aug '16 6:35:19 AM pinkdalek
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** Season 14 amped up the gore and horror from the previous two seasons as much as possible, and combined it with the departure of the Fourth Doctor's very popular and long-serving companion Sarah Jane (in a nasty story featuring BreakTheCutie and MindRape exploiting audience fears that she would be killed off), making the atmosphere a lot less cosy. Her replacement was a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Warrior Race Girl]] who liked to stab people, and her relationship with the Doctor was much more distant and vertical, making the Doctor come across as a lot colder and darker. The stories also begin to take on clearly allegorical aspects that were usually absent until then, especially the InternalDeconstruction "The Face of Evil" and the political satire in "The Robots of Death" and "The Deadly Assassin" (even after the gore and horror was drastically toned down after this season, these elements stuck around). And, instead of the usual mess of science fiction, adventure yarn and GothicHorror, a whole half the stories of this season are just different genres of murder mystery (a GovernmentConspiracy-thriller NoirEpisode, TenLittleMurderVictims, and a ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes'' {{Pastiche}}). There was even a story in this season where the Doctor had no companion at all - and thus, no MoralityChain, meaning he was shown doing much more brutal and desperate things to survive even than usual.
** Season 18, due to a new script editor who wanted to make harder sci-fi about [[RippedFromTheHeadlines contemporary computer science]], a producer responding to fanboy criticism that Season 17 was too [[LighterAndSofter fluffy and flippant]] and [[CreatorBreakdown a lead actor whose mental issues were starting to bleed into the character]]. The cute RobotDog gets [[ShooOutTheClowns killed]], the funny MetaGuy gets PutOnABus, the Doctor is no longer an InvincibleHero and GothicHorror elements like the Master and vampires start showing up after a long absence.

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** Season 12 ended up much darker due to introducing a "detached" new Doctor who was unfamiliar to the child audience and had a more [[BreakTheBadass fragile personality]], which created a feeling of genuine danger rather than the EscapistCharacter runarounds of previous seasons. "The Ark in Space" and "Genesis of the Daleks" were both unusually dark stories even by the standards of modern ''Who'', incorporating themes of BodyHorror, BlueAndOrangeMorality, DarkMessiah symbolism and fascism. The fact that the new Doctor was also ''funnier'' than the previous one, and the lighthearted companion team of Sarah Jane and Harry, kept everything fun enough to prevent MoodWhiplash.
** Season 14 amped up the gore and horror from the previous two seasons as much as possible, and combined it with the departure of the Fourth Doctor's very popular and long-serving companion Sarah Jane (in a nasty story featuring BreakTheCutie and MindRape exploiting audience fears that she would be killed off), Jane, making the atmosphere a lot less cosy. Her replacement was a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Warrior Race Girl]] in a {{Stripperific}} outfit who [[BloodierAndGorier liked to stab people, people]], and her relationship with the Doctor was much more distant and vertical, making the Doctor come across as a lot colder colder. The writing became more cynical, and darker. The stories also begin to take on clearly allegorical aspects that were usually absent until then, especially the InternalDeconstruction "The Face of Evil" and the political satire in "The Robots of Death" and "The Deadly Assassin" (even after the gore and horror was drastically toned down after this season, these elements stuck around). And, instead of the usual mess of science fiction, adventure yarn and GothicHorror, a whole half the stories of this season are just were different genres of murder mystery (a GovernmentConspiracy-thriller NoirEpisode, TenLittleMurderVictims, and a ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes'' {{Pastiche}}). There was even a story in this season where the mystery. The Doctor had no companion at all - was made a ''lot'' funnier to distract from the gore and thus, no MoralityChain, meaning he was shown doing much more brutal horror, but it didn't work and desperate things the production team got fired due to survive even than usual.
MoralGuardian pressure.
** Season 18, due to a new script editor who wanted to make harder sci-fi about [[RippedFromTheHeadlines contemporary computer science]], a producer responding to fanboy criticism that Season 17 was too [[LighterAndSofter fluffy and flippant]] and [[CreatorBreakdown a lead actor whose mental issues were starting to bleed into the character]]. The cute RobotDog gets and the funny MetaGuy [[ShooOutTheClowns killed]], the funny MetaGuy gets get]] PutOnABus, the Doctor is no longer an InvincibleHero and GothicHorror elements like the 'zombie' Master and vampires start showing up after a long absence.



** The Master's portrayal in ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin The Deadly Assassin]]''. Up until this point he had been a [[AffablyEvil charismatic and almost friendly adversary]] to the Doctor played by Roger Delgado. This was the first time the character wasn't played by Delgado, and instead was made a rotting husk at the edge of his life and driven purely by hatred, especially for the Doctor. By the same token, the Doctor has none of the compassion for the Master he had before, culminating in a fight to the death afterwhich the Doctor even admits that he hopes the Master has gone for good.

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** The Master's portrayal in ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin The Deadly Assassin]]''. Up until this point he had been a [[AffablyEvil charismatic and almost friendly adversary]] to the Doctor played by Roger Delgado. This was the first time the character wasn't played by Delgado, and instead was made a rotting husk at the edge of his life and driven purely by hatred, especially for the Doctor. By the same token, the Doctor has none of the compassion for the Master he had before, culminating in a fight to the death afterwhich after which the Doctor even admits that he hopes the Master has gone for good.
21st Jul '16 10:36:08 AM Morgenthaler
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** First, there was ''Series/{{Ultraseven}}'' (1967). Unlike its family-friendly predecessor ''{{Series/Ultraman}}'' (1966), the usual threats to Earth this time was not rampaging {{kaiju}}, but intelligent, {{Dangerously Genre Savvy}} aliens. In addition, {{The Hero}} Dan Moroboshi/Ultraseven frequently faced moral dilemmas. {{Humans Are The Real Monsters}} was a theme that frequently popped up throughout the show.

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** First, there was ''Series/{{Ultraseven}}'' (1967). Unlike its family-friendly predecessor ''{{Series/Ultraman}}'' (1966), the usual threats to Earth this time was not rampaging {{kaiju}}, but intelligent, {{Dangerously Genre Savvy}} cunning aliens. In addition, {{The Hero}} Dan Moroboshi/Ultraseven frequently faced moral dilemmas. {{Humans Are The Real Monsters}} was a theme that frequently popped up throughout the show.
11th Jul '16 6:52:24 PM Discar
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** The stage play adaptation of "The Robots of Death" is even darker than the unusually dark story, partly due to ExiledFromContinuity issues as the playwright did not have permission to use the character of the Doctor or the companions in the story. The result of this is to change the central character from a CloudCuckooLander ScienceHero who's only there to explore and have a good time into a DeadpanSnarker assassin placed there specifically to murder one of the other characters. The ending also goes from a darkly funny hard-science solution that fits the Doctor's irreverent and ingenious personality to a [[OutsideContextVillain last-minute hijack from the Fendahl]] resulting in a gun battle.

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** The stage play adaptation of "The Robots of Death" is even darker than the unusually dark story, partly due to ExiledFromContinuity issues as the playwright did not have permission to use the character of the Doctor or the companions in the story. The result of this is to change the central character from a CloudCuckooLander ScienceHero who's only there to explore and have a good time into a DeadpanSnarker assassin placed there specifically to murder one of the other characters. The ending also goes from a darkly funny hard-science solution that fits the Doctor's irreverent and ingenious personality to a [[OutsideContextVillain [[OutsideContextProblem last-minute hijack from the Fendahl]] resulting in a gun battle.
11th Jun '16 6:56:45 PM nombretomado
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* ''Series/HouseOfAnubis'': In season 1, the mystery was finding clues, building a cup, and learning secrets about the house. Season 2 got darker, with curses and much more on the line, not to mention some more intense scenes (including [[spoiler:the main villain being sucked into the egyptian underworld]]). Season 3, and [[spoiler:characters are losing their souls, someone impersonated their mentally ill adoptive sister,]] and even the romance is becoming more intense. No wonder it's been moved to TeenNick....

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* ''Series/HouseOfAnubis'': In season 1, the mystery was finding clues, building a cup, and learning secrets about the house. Season 2 got darker, with curses and much more on the line, not to mention some more intense scenes (including [[spoiler:the main villain being sucked into the egyptian underworld]]). Season 3, and [[spoiler:characters are losing their souls, someone impersonated their mentally ill adoptive sister,]] and even the romance is becoming more intense. No wonder it's been moved to TeenNick....Creator/TeenNick....
14th Apr '16 11:23:59 AM Josef5678
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** Take to [[UpToEleven extreme]] with ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons''

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** Take Taken to the [[UpToEleven extreme]] with ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons''''Series/KamenRiderAmazons'', as the Amazon Riders brutally kill their enemies.
14th Apr '16 12:51:17 AM SAM156
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** Take to [[uptoeleven extreme]] with ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons''

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** Take to [[uptoeleven [[UpToEleven extreme]] with ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons''
14th Apr '16 12:49:45 AM SAM156
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** Take to [[uptoeleven extreme]] with ''Series/KamenRiderAmazons''
13th Apr '16 2:31:40 PM Josef5678
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* ''Series/ThePacific'', when compared to its companion series ''Series/BandOfBrothers''. ''Band of Brothers'' wasn't a picnic, but ''The Pacific'' goes much deeper into the horrific conditions of the battlefields the men fought in and the psychological and emotional scarring that resulted from it. Plus, the tactics used by the Japanese army were far more malicious and atrocious than those used by the Germans in Europe. Even Bill Guarnere (from ''BoB'') said in no uncertain terms that as bad as the War in Europe was, the Marines in the Pacific had it even ''worse''.

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* ''Series/ThePacific'', when compared to its companion series ''Series/BandOfBrothers''. ''Band of Brothers'' wasn't a picnic, but ''The Pacific'' goes much deeper into the horrific conditions of the battlefields the men fought in and the psychological and emotional scarring that resulted from it. Plus, the tactics used by the Japanese army were far more malicious and atrocious than those used by the Germans in Europe. Even Bill Guarnere (from ''BoB'') ''[=BoB=]'') said in no uncertain terms that as bad as the War in Europe was, the Marines in the Pacific had it even ''worse''.
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