History Creator / FriedrichNietzsche

13th Apr '16 5:21:59 PM 04tele
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* In ''Film/TheDoors'', Jim Morrison's incoherent student film ends with Jim strolling across a rooftop reading out random bits from ''The Portable Nietzsche''. The professor, played by the movie's actual director Creator/OliverStone, delivers the ArmorPiercingResponse "Pretty pretentious, Jim," which annoys Morrison so much that he quits college, goes to sit on a beach and is subsequently invited by a duly impressed Ray Manzarek to form a band.
13th Apr '16 5:15:37 PM 04tele
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He also seemed to regard Gautama Buddha as one. He liked what he saw in Buddhism as a realist philosophy that actually tries to deal with real-world suffering instead of the vague word "sin" though he did disapprove of the nihilistic aspects, namely reduction of suffering as a means towards non-existence, and disliked its attention towards an otherworldly goal.

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He also seemed to regard Gautama Buddha as one. He liked what he saw in Buddhism as a realist philosophy that actually tries to deal with real-world suffering instead of the vague word "sin" though he did disapprove of the nihilistic aspects, namely reduction of suffering as a means towards non-existence, and disliked its attention towards an otherworldly goal.\\
13th Apr '16 5:14:04 PM 04tele
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** He did, however, point out a few historical figures who were either Ubermenschen or very close; for the most part, in contrast to the popular misconception of Nietzsche advocating {{transhuman}}ism (a literal take on "übermensch") or complete sociopathy (as with ThoseWackyNazis), the proto-übermenschen tend to be instead relatively benign philosophers and the founders of influential schools of thought. \\

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** He did, however, point out a few historical figures who were either Ubermenschen or very close; for the most part, in contrast to the popular misconception of Nietzsche advocating {{transhuman}}ism (a literal take on "übermensch") or complete sociopathy (as with ThoseWackyNazis), the proto-übermenschen tend to be instead relatively benign philosophers and the founders of influential schools of thought. \\


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The closest he came to having a hero among modern men was Creator/JohannWolfgangVonGoethe, who he regarded (with some justification) as having emancipated himself from the common prejudices of his time and place, and who he praised without reservation in ''Twilight of the Idols'' as "the last German before whom I feel reverence."
13th Apr '16 5:06:57 PM 04tele
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* TheStateless: Renounced his Prussian citizenship in 1869 and remained stateless until his death.

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* TheStateless: Renounced his Prussian citizenship in 1869 and remained stateless until his death. He felt so out of sympathy with German culture that he used to entertain the idea that his family was actually ethnically Polish. (It wasn't, though.)
13th Apr '16 5:04:08 PM 04tele
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* ''The Will to Power'': Again, not actually one of his books, but a collection of his notes; scholars to this day [[SeriousBusiness have serious debates]] whether he had intended to finish this work at all. Either way, the work covers Nietzsche's ideas about the history of nihilism in the West. The subtitle, ''An Attempt at the Revaluation of All Values'', points at the middle part of the work, in which he begins to try to point the way for anyone who might become a proper {{Ubermensch}}. Recent editions take pains to note that ''The Will to Power'' is hardly complete, and really isn't supposed to exist. See above, about his [[ThoseWackyNazis wacky]] sister, for details.

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* ''The Will to Power'': Again, not actually one of his books, but a collection of his notes; scholars to this day [[SeriousBusiness have serious debates]] whether he had intended to finish this work at all. Either way, the work covers Nietzsche's ideas about the history of nihilism in the West. The subtitle, ''An Attempt at the Revaluation of All Values'', points at the middle part of the work, in which he begins to try to point the way for anyone who might become a proper {{Ubermensch}}. Recent editions take pains to note that ''The Will to Power'' is hardly complete, and not really isn't supposed a book, and certainly doesn't meet Nietsche's exacting standards; academic discussions of his work generally regard the book as too compromised to exist.be used as a reliable source. See above, about his [[ThoseWackyNazis wacky]] sister, for details.
13th Apr '16 5:01:35 PM 04tele
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* PetTheDog: In an age when antisemitism was pretty much widespread in Germany, Nietzsche was outspoken in his defense of the Jewish people and their influence on German (and world) culture.

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* PetTheDog: In an age when antisemitism was pretty much widespread commonplace in Germany, Nietzsche was outspoken in his defense of the Jewish people and their influence on German (and world) culture.culture.
13th Apr '16 4:59:37 PM 04tele
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* JesusWasWayCool: While he had little positive to say of ''Christianity'', which he considered to be a pollution of Jesus' real teachings, Nietzsche had something of a begrudging respect for Jesus. Not that Nietzsche thought Jesus was above criticism (he thought he was [[WideEyedIdealist too idealistic]] and [[CloudCuckooLander downright unusual]]), but he still seemed to like him.

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* JesusWasWayCool: While he had little positive to say of about ''Christianity'', which he considered to be a pollution of Jesus' real teachings, Nietzsche had something of a begrudging respect for Jesus. Not that Nietzsche thought Jesus was above criticism (he thought he was [[WideEyedIdealist too idealistic]] and [[CloudCuckooLander downright unusual]]), but he still seemed to like him.thought Jesus was a far more interesting and inspiring figure than any of his disciples: in ''The Antichrist'', he wrote "in reality there has been only one Christian, and he died on the Cross."
13th Apr '16 4:52:53 PM 04tele
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* GratuitousForeignLanguage: Frequently [[AltumVidetur Latin]] or sometimes [[GratuitousGreek Greek]], as was common with most intellectual fields at that time, although he was just as likely to use GratuitousFrench or GratuitousEnglish when quoting something or other. In fairness, it usually wasn't terribly gratuitous; he probably had some philosophical purpose in every instance. Indeed, his purpose could, at times, be downright practical: his use of the French word ''ressentiment'' (resentment) in ''On the Genealogy of Morality'' and afterward was basically because German doesn't have a word that could really translate to "resentment."

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* GratuitousForeignLanguage: Frequently [[AltumVidetur Latin]] or sometimes [[GratuitousGreek Greek]], as was common with most intellectual fields at that time, although he was just as likely to use GratuitousFrench or GratuitousEnglish when quoting something or other. In fairness, it usually wasn't terribly gratuitous; he probably almost always had some philosophical purpose in every instance.instance, and being a trained philologist he liked to demonstrate that commonly used words were often derived from words in Greek or Latin that had significantly different meanings. Indeed, his purpose could, at times, be downright practical: his use of the French word ''ressentiment'' (resentment) in ''On the Genealogy of Morality'' and afterward was basically because German doesn't have a word that could really translate to "resentment."" A large part of ''Genealogy'' is devoted to arguing that most of our words for "good", meaning morally good, are derived from words that meant "noble", i.e. belonging to the upper echelons of society, whereas most of our words for "evil" are derived from words that referred to the poor and those on the fringes of society.
8th Apr '16 1:44:22 PM Eagal
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* OneOfUs: Quite literally. "Tropes are not something that can be added or abstracted from language at willó-they are its truest nature. There is no real knowing apart from metaphor, and the drive toward the formation of such is the fundamental human drive."
21st Mar '16 8:09:08 PM Doug86
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* WarIsGlorious: Somewhat. As mentioned above he is critical of war in one sense, and especially [[WarForFunAndProfit for how it was used and abused by the state for petty reasons]], but he regards conflict (in a general sense) as the great mover of history and ideas, and the fount of creativity. He also saw war as a way that a broken society might find renewed purpose, though he notes that a healthy society has no need for war. He admires numerous men who were soldiers and conquerors like Creator/JuliusCaesar, Cesare Borgia, UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte and AlexanderTheGreat, and frequently invoked war imagery in his writings especially when he was attacking someone (i.e. more often than not). He is strongly opposed to pacifism and after forming TheUbermensch he changed his mind about war, praising it. In one of his discourses, he commented that the Ubermensch would have to be more like Caesar, not Jesus. In his insane period he declared that Germany would fall shortly due to its war-making; he was dead on right. In other words- inconclusive.

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* WarIsGlorious: Somewhat. As mentioned above he is critical of war in one sense, and especially [[WarForFunAndProfit for how it was used and abused by the state for petty reasons]], but he regards conflict (in a general sense) as the great mover of history and ideas, and the fount of creativity. He also saw war as a way that a broken society might find renewed purpose, though he notes that a healthy society has no need for war. He admires numerous men who were soldiers and conquerors like Creator/JuliusCaesar, Cesare Borgia, UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte and AlexanderTheGreat, UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat, and frequently invoked war imagery in his writings especially when he was attacking someone (i.e. more often than not). He is strongly opposed to pacifism and after forming TheUbermensch he changed his mind about war, praising it. In one of his discourses, he commented that the Ubermensch would have to be more like Caesar, not Jesus. In his insane period he declared that Germany would fall shortly due to its war-making; he was dead on right. In other words- inconclusive.
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