History Creator / DonBluth

30th Jun '16 6:35:08 PM NWolfman
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A prequel film to ''Dragon's Lair'' has been floating around in DevelopmentHell since the mid 2000s, with Bluth trying and failing to secure funding due to Hollywood's lack of faith in hand-drawn animation. He finally secured a budget through a successful Indiegogo campaign [[https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dragon-s-lair-returns/x/12912272#/ which is still currently accepting donations]] and began preliminary work in 2015.

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A prequel film to ''Dragon's Lair'' has been floating around in DevelopmentHell since the mid 2000s, with Bluth trying and failing to secure funding due to Hollywood's lack of faith in hand-drawn animation. He finally secured a budget through a successful Indiegogo campaign [[https://www.([[https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dragon-s-lair-returns/x/12912272#/ which is still currently accepting donations]] donations]]) and began preliminary work in 2015.
30th Jun '16 6:34:29 PM NWolfman
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Although he's not as involved in the movie business as he once was, he ''is'' in the early stages of planning a film adaptation of ''Dragon's Lair'' - though the project is stuck in DevelopmentHell. According to him, the film isn't getting off the ground because Hollywood doesn't see a traditional hand-drawn animated film as marketable.

...But that's not stopping him from taking to Indiegogo to get funding for the project himself! [[https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dragon-s-lair-returns/x/12912272#/ Fund it here!]]

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Although he's not as involved in the movie business as he once was, he ''is'' in the early stages of planning a A prequel film adaptation of to ''Dragon's Lair'' - though has been floating around in DevelopmentHell since the project is stuck mid 2000s, with Bluth trying and failing to secure funding due to Hollywood's lack of faith in DevelopmentHell. According to him, the film isn't getting off the ground because Hollywood doesn't see a traditional hand-drawn animated film as marketable.

...But that's not stopping him from taking to
animation. He finally secured a budget through a successful Indiegogo to get funding for the project himself! campaign [[https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dragon-s-lair-returns/x/12912272#/ Fund it here!]]
which is still currently accepting donations]] and began preliminary work in 2015.
7th Jun '16 6:48:24 AM rjd1922
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Ultimately, his films couldn't compete with Disney's juggernaut hits (which hit their stride with 1991's ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast''), and became lost in the overcrowded "all the animation that isn't by Disney" market. For a while in the '90s, it looked like he was ready for a comeback, producing ''Anastasia'' and ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' for 20th Century Fox, but then, the rise of Creator/{{Pixar}} and Dreamworks became too much to compete with, creating a lull for traditional cel-drawn animated films that only in the past few years has abated. As of the fall of 2015, he is attempted to crowdsource an animated film based on ''VideoGame/DragonsLair''; after failing on Kickstarter, he tried again and succeeded on Indiegogo that December. As of this writing, he also has [[https://youtube.com/watch?v=sPDdI0XyhOA seven other unknown film projects]] currently in development.

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Ultimately, his films couldn't compete with Disney's juggernaut hits (which hit their stride with 1991's ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast''), and became lost in the overcrowded "all the animation that isn't by Disney" market. For a while in the '90s, it looked like he was ready for a comeback, producing ''Anastasia'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' for 20th Century Fox, but then, the rise of Creator/{{Pixar}} and Dreamworks became too much to compete with, creating a lull for traditional cel-drawn animated films that only in the past few years has abated. As of the fall of 2015, he is attempted to crowdsource an animated film based on ''VideoGame/DragonsLair''; after failing on Kickstarter, he tried again and succeeded on Indiegogo that December. As of this writing, he also has [[https://youtube.com/watch?v=sPDdI0XyhOA seven other unknown film projects]] currently in development.



* ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'': Based on the book Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH. His first push for a return to the rich, classical style of [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation the older Disney films]], and his BreakthroughHit. Many fans and critics still consider this his best film.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'': Based on the book Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH.''Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH''. His first push for a return to the rich, classical style of [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation the older Disney films]], and his BreakthroughHit. Many fans and critics still consider this his best film.
12th May '16 12:00:16 PM JohnnyLurg
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* SmallAnnoyingCreature: A stock character that shows up in his works to lighten the mood. Examples include Digit in ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'', Petrie in ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', Hunch from ''WesternAnimation/RockADoodle'' and Bartok from ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}''. The fact that one gets ''blown to pieces on-screen'' in [[WesternAnimation/TitanAE his final film]] shows that even he started to get sick of them after a while.

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* SmallAnnoyingCreature: A stock character that shows up in his works to lighten the mood. Examples include Digit in ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'', Ducky and Petrie in ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'', Hunch from ''WesternAnimation/RockADoodle'' and Bartok from ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}''. The fact that one gets ''blown to pieces on-screen'' in [[WesternAnimation/TitanAE his final film]] shows that even he started to get sick of them after a while.
12th Apr '16 8:21:33 PM mlsmithca
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Their goal was to remind Disney, and people in general, [[DoingItForTheArt what painstakingly attentive hand-drawn animation could do]]. For a considerable amount of time, film-goers liked his films better than the movies Disney were releasing. He also produced the animation for two laserdisc-driven videogames, VideoGame/DragonsLair and VideoGame/SpaceAce, still considered by many as classics.

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Their goal was to remind Disney, and people in general, [[DoingItForTheArt what painstakingly attentive hand-drawn animation could do]]. For a considerable amount of time, film-goers liked his films better than the movies Disney were releasing. He also produced the animation for two laserdisc-driven videogames, VideoGame/DragonsLair ''VideoGame/DragonsLair'' and VideoGame/SpaceAce, ''VideoGame/SpaceAce'', still considered by many as classics.



Ultimately, his films couldn't compete with Disney's juggernaut hits (which hit their stride with 1991's Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast), and became lost in the overcrowded "all the animation that isn't by Disney" market. For a while in the '90s, it looked like he was ready for a comeback, producing ''Anastasia'' and Main/TitanAE for 20th Century Fox, but then, the rise of Creator/{{Pixar}} and Dreamworks became too much to compete with, creating a lull for traditional cel-drawn animated films that only in the past few years has abated. As of the fall of 2015, he is attempted to crowdsource an animated film based on VideoGame/DragonsLair; after failing on Kickstarter, he tried again and succeeded on Indiegogo that December. As of this writing, he also has [[https://youtube.com/watch?v=sPDdI0XyhOA seven other unknown film projects]] currently in development.

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Ultimately, his films couldn't compete with Disney's juggernaut hits (which hit their stride with 1991's Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast), ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast''), and became lost in the overcrowded "all the animation that isn't by Disney" market. For a while in the '90s, it looked like he was ready for a comeback, producing ''Anastasia'' and Main/TitanAE ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' for 20th Century Fox, but then, the rise of Creator/{{Pixar}} and Dreamworks became too much to compete with, creating a lull for traditional cel-drawn animated films that only in the past few years has abated. As of the fall of 2015, he is attempted to crowdsource an animated film based on VideoGame/DragonsLair; ''VideoGame/DragonsLair''; after failing on Kickstarter, he tried again and succeeded on Indiegogo that December. As of this writing, he also has [[https://youtube.com/watch?v=sPDdI0XyhOA seven other unknown film projects]] currently in development.



* ''Disney/TheSmallOne: '' His last official project with Disney.

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* ''Disney/TheSmallOne: '' ''Disney/TheSmallOne'': His last official project with Disney.



Although he's not as involved in the movie business as he once was, he ''is'' in the early stages of planning a film adaptation of ''Dragon's Lair''- though the project is stuck in DevelopmentHell. According to him, the film isn't getting off the ground because Hollywood doesn't see a traditional hand-drawn animated film as marketable.

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Although he's not as involved in the movie business as he once was, he ''is'' in the early stages of planning a film adaptation of ''Dragon's Lair''- Lair'' - though the project is stuck in DevelopmentHell. According to him, the film isn't getting off the ground because Hollywood doesn't see a traditional hand-drawn animated film as marketable.




* AuteurLicense: Went independent in an effort to gain one. Ironically, he got ''less'' control over his films with each success. Gary Goldman [[http://alternativemagazineonline.co.uk/2009/11/30/interview-in-conversation-with-gary-goldman-don-bluth-productions/ even said in an interview]] that after their company Sullivan-Bluth went bankrupt due to Rock-A-Doodle flopping, forcing them to sell the studio and reform into Don Bluth Productions in 1993, Don no longer owned his own company.

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\n* AuteurLicense: Went independent in an effort to gain one. Ironically, he got ''less'' control over his films with each success. Gary Goldman [[http://alternativemagazineonline.co.uk/2009/11/30/interview-in-conversation-with-gary-goldman-don-bluth-productions/ even said in an interview]] that after their company Sullivan-Bluth went bankrupt due to Rock-A-Doodle ''Rock-A-Doodle'' flopping, forcing them to sell the studio and reform into Don Bluth Productions in 1993, Don no longer owned his own company.



* BlackAndWhiteMorality: ''The Secret Of NIMH'' (Mrs. Brisby and her family are unambiguously good, while Jenner is unambiguously evil), ''An American Tail'' (Fieval, all the other mice and Tiger are unambiguously good, while Warren T. Rat and his cats are unambiguously evil) and ''Anastasia'' (Anastasia is unambiguously good, while Rasputin is unambiguously evil)
** BlackAndGrayMorality: ''All Dogs Go To Heaven'' (Charlie is an AntiHero who gradually grows to care for Anne-Marie, while Carface is unambiguously evil)
** GreyAndGrayMorality: ''Titan A.E.'' (the Drej are acting in premptive self-defense, while Corso is a very sympathetic AntiVillain)

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* BlackAndGrayMorality: ''All Dogs Go To Heaven'' (Charlie is an AntiHero who gradually grows to care for Anne-Marie, while Carface is unambiguously evil).
* BlackAndWhiteMorality: ''The Secret Of NIMH'' (Mrs. Brisby and her family are unambiguously good, while Jenner is unambiguously evil), ''An American Tail'' (Fieval, (Fievel, all the other mice and Tiger are unambiguously good, while Warren T. Rat and his cats are unambiguously evil) and ''Anastasia'' (Anastasia is unambiguously good, while Rasputin is unambiguously evil)
** BlackAndGrayMorality: ''All Dogs Go To Heaven'' (Charlie is an AntiHero who gradually grows to care for Anne-Marie, while Carface is unambiguously evil)
** GreyAndGrayMorality: ''Titan A.E.'' (the Drej are acting in premptive self-defense, while Corso is a very sympathetic AntiVillain)
evil).



* DarkerAndEdgier: His darker works from TheEighties compared to Disney at the time, although they're ''nowhere'' as dark as the films of his other competition, Creator/RalphBakshi.
** Which is saying something, when you consider [[Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound the]] [[Disney/TheBlackCauldron movies]] [[Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective Disney]] [[WesternAnimation/TheBraveLittleToaster put]] [[Disney/OliverAndCompany out]] in the 80's (''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' excluded).

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* DarkerAndEdgier: DarkerAndEdgier:
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His darker works from TheEighties compared to Disney at the time, although they're ''nowhere'' as dark as the films of his other competition, Creator/RalphBakshi.
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Creator/RalphBakshi. Which is saying something, when you consider [[Disney/TheFoxAndTheHound the]] [[Disney/TheBlackCauldron movies]] [[Disney/TheGreatMouseDetective Disney]] [[WesternAnimation/TheBraveLittleToaster put]] [[Disney/OliverAndCompany out]] in the 80's (''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'' excluded).



* FurriesAreEasierToDraw: But then again, ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' both had very well-animated humans as main characters (humans were usually simply rotoscoped in his earlier films).
** ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' also used a significant amount of rotoscoping.
* UsefulNotes/FurryFandom: "[[MemeticMutation Everyone is Furry for]] [[WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH Justin]]."
** For the above-stated reason, several of his films, namely ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'' and ''WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven'', are considered the furry equivalent of a ClosetKey.

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* FurriesAreEasierToDraw: But then again, ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' both had very well-animated humans as main characters (humans were usually simply rotoscoped in his earlier films).
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films). ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' also used a significant amount of rotoscoping.
* UsefulNotes/FurryFandom: "[[MemeticMutation Everyone is Furry for]] [[WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH Justin]]."
** For the above-stated reason, several of his films, namely ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'' and ''WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven'', are considered the furry equivalent of a ClosetKey.
rotoscoping.



* GrayRainOfDepression: First appears in ''WesternAnimation/BanjoTheWoodpileCat'', and the scene of a little lost animal crying in the rain is replicated almost identically in ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail''.

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* GrayRainOfDepression: GrayRainOfDepression:
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First appears in ''WesternAnimation/BanjoTheWoodpileCat'', and the scene of a little lost animal crying in the rain is replicated almost identically in ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail''.



* GreyAndGrayMorality: ''Titan A.E.'' (the Drej are acting in premptive self-defense, while Corso is a very sympathetic AntiVillain).



* InstantIndexJustAddWater: Water and related tropes are featured extremely prominently in his five first movies; in each of these there is at least one rain sequence, one under water sequence (there is even a specific under water ''musical theme'' in ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime''), scenery where water is featured profusely (a watermill, a rusting cargo, sewers, docks…), several dramatic sequences and/or a climax involving water more or less directly…
* LighterAndSofter: "Rock-a-Doodle", "Thumbelina", "A Troll In Central Park", and "The Pebble and the Penguin" compared to the last 4 movies before them. Perhaps not coincidentally, these are considered his biggest flops.
* LoveAtFirstSight: A trait of some of Bluth's projects. In ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'', there is an implied attraction between Mrs. Brisby and Justin, but it doesn't go much further than that. Played more straight with Tony Toponi and Bridget in ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'', Goldie and Chanticleer in ''WesternAnimation/RockADoodle'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Thumbelina}}'' and Prince Cornelius, as well as Hubie and Marina in ''WesternAnimation/ThePebbleAndThePenguin''.

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* InstantIndexJustAddWater: Water and related tropes are featured extremely prominently in his five first movies; in each of these there is at least one rain sequence, one under water sequence (there is even a specific under water ''musical theme'' in ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime''), scenery where water is featured profusely (a watermill, a rusting cargo, sewers, docks…), docks...), several dramatic sequences and/or a climax involving water more or less directly…
directly...
* LighterAndSofter: "Rock-a-Doodle", "Thumbelina", "A ''Rock-a-Doodle'', ''Thumbelina'', ''A Troll In Central Park", Park'', and "The ''The Pebble and the Penguin" Penguin'' compared to the last 4 four movies before them. Perhaps not coincidentally, these are considered his biggest flops.
* LoveAtFirstSight: A trait of some of Bluth's projects. projects.
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In ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'', there is an implied attraction between Mrs. Brisby and Justin, but it doesn't go much further than that. Played more straight with Tony Toponi and Bridget in ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'', Goldie and Chanticleer in ''WesternAnimation/RockADoodle'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Thumbelina}}'' and Prince Cornelius, as well as Hubie and Marina in ''WesternAnimation/ThePebbleAndThePenguin''.



* PunchClockVillain: Killer in ''AllDogsGoToHeaven'', Hunch in ''WesternAnimation/RockADoodle'', and Llort in ''WesternAnimation/ATrollInCentralPark''. And they're all voiced by Charles Nelson Reilly.
* RandomEventsPlot: In addition to the inherent weirdness of his films, most of them tend to have rather bizarre, disjointed story structures. He has made some that have more straightforward stories, such as Dragon's Lair, Space Ace and The Land Before Time.

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* PunchClockVillain: Killer in ''AllDogsGoToHeaven'', ''WesternAnimation/AllDogsGoToHeaven'', Hunch in ''WesternAnimation/RockADoodle'', and Llort in ''WesternAnimation/ATrollInCentralPark''. And they're all voiced by Charles Nelson Reilly.
* RandomEventsPlot: In addition to the inherent weirdness of his films, most of them tend to have rather bizarre, disjointed story structures. He has made some that have more straightforward stories, such as Dragon's Lair, Space Ace ''Dragon's Lair'', ''Space Ace'' and The ''The Land Before Time. Time''.



* RuleOfSymbolism: Another common motif is characters unwillingly sliding, tumbling down or being washed away by water or wind. This is never played for the comedic effect; these sequences are always dramatic, as they emphasize the loss of control of the characters.
** Most of Bluth's films involve a metaphorical or literal journey down to hell. Keep in mind that Bluth is a life-long Mormon, and it's far easier to [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory read Christian themes into his films]] than it is with comparable Disney films.[[note]]Mormon theology doesn't have a comparable hell concept, so this theme may be more to add to the fairy tale atmosphere of some of his older movies[[/note]]

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* RuleOfSymbolism: RuleOfSymbolism:
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Another common motif is characters unwillingly sliding, tumbling down or being washed away by water or wind. This is never played for the comedic effect; these sequences are always dramatic, as they emphasize the loss of control of the characters.
** Most of Bluth's films involve a metaphorical or literal journey down to hell. Keep in mind that Bluth is a life-long Mormon, and it's far easier to [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory read Christian themes into his films]] than it is with comparable Disney films.[[note]]Mormon [[note]] Mormon theology doesn't have a comparable hell concept, so this theme may be more to add to the fairy tale atmosphere of some of his older movies[[/note]]movies.[[/note]]



* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: ''Hugely'' averted in a vast majority of his works, even ''WesternAnimation/ATrollInCentralPark''. For instance, look at the demon cat Dragon compared to the size of Brisby in ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH''.
* ShownTheirWork: The [=YouTube=] user [[http://www.youtube.com/user/OriginalGagBonkerss OriginalGagBonkerss]] made a video that [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVYo3OpqsbU talks about the works of Bluth]].
** For its time (hard emphasis on the "for its time" part), ''TheLandBeforeTime'' was one of the most accurate dinosaur movies, at least in the sense that the dinosaurs in question were treated more or less like ordinary animals rather than sci-fi monsters.

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* SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale: ''Hugely'' averted Averted in a vast majority of his works, even ''WesternAnimation/ATrollInCentralPark''. For instance, look at the demon cat Dragon compared to the size of Brisby in ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH''.
* ShownTheirWork: ShownTheirWork:
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The [=YouTube=] user [[http://www.youtube.com/user/OriginalGagBonkerss OriginalGagBonkerss]] made a video that [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVYo3OpqsbU talks about the works of Bluth]].
** For its time (hard emphasis on the "for its time" part), ''TheLandBeforeTime'' ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'' was one of the most accurate dinosaur movies, at least in the sense that the dinosaurs in question were treated more or less like ordinary animals rather than sci-fi monsters.
1st Apr '16 5:20:01 AM Hedging
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* GoneHorriblyRight: His attempt to get Disney to start putting more effort into their films like they did in their golden age worked a little ''too'' well, as not only did he lose a lot of his growing audience to Disney's animated musical masterpieces, but he also quickly lost his special status as the only other animated movie maker out there, as many other studios tried to cash in on Disney's success by trying to make Disney esque animated features (with little more success than Bluth though).
4th Mar '16 7:36:49 PM MauveSilly
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* CreatorsOddball: ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' is a sci-fi film that has very little of his cartoony animation, rock music in the soundtrack, and much more blood and gore than even ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH''.



* FanService: In pretty much all of his works that have a female love interest, whether human or animal, she's never anything less than above average in the hotness department.
** A HoYay example in the Rapunzel animation he made for Scissor Sisters would be a scene that features the Prince in nothing but his underwear.
** In the Dragon's Lair games, Princess Daphne is this, but for a very interesting reason: Bluth apparently had to use poses found in Playboy magazines to use as a model for her animation. This would explain why a lot of her posing is rather... flirtatious for someone being held by a fire-breathing dragon.
** Masterfully averted with ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'', where none of the characters, especially the lead female one, are deliberately sexualized in any way as a means of keeping complete focus on the drama. Though Justin appearently was designed to be somewhat handsome, according to production notes.
7th Feb '16 2:56:02 PM nombretomado
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'': Based on the book Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH. His first push for a return to the rich, classical style of [[TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation the older Disney films]], and his BreakthroughHit. Many fans and critics still consider this his best film.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH'': Based on the book Literature/MrsFrisbyAndTheRatsOfNIMH. His first push for a return to the rich, classical style of [[TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation the older Disney films]], and his BreakthroughHit. Many fans and critics still consider this his best film.
6th Feb '16 11:46:05 PM nombretomado
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* TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation: Its [[UrExample biggest advocate]]. He was one of the first people in the business to really put his foot down over how poor the quality of mainstream animation had gotten [[TheDarkAgeOfAnimation over the past few years]], and his [[DoingItForTheArt tenacity for a return to lush, full classical animation]] provided [[Creator/{{Disney}} the business's biggest name]] to sit up and take notice. Ironically, and tragically, he would later be crushed by the competition in the very revolution he had started.
28th Jan '16 12:52:25 PM MrMediaGuy2
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* CreatorsOddball: ''WesternAnimation/TitanAE'' is a sci-fi film that has very little of his cartoony animation, rock music in the soundtrack, and much more blood and gore than even ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfNIMH''.
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