History Comicbook / TheDefenders

10th May '18 12:20:58 AM Byzantine
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* DemotedToExtra: This happened to '''all''' of the original members (plus Silver Surfer,) at one point or another in the original volume. Surfer was the one that got hit hardest, barely appearing in the book after joining the team for a few issues early on, but the others suffered from it too. [[PutOnABus Namor left in #14, while Doctor Strange left after the first Annual,]] and [[TheBusCameBack while both of them showed up again,]] [[CommutingOnABus it took a while for them to become as prominent as they used to be.]] Hulk didn't have as much of this as the others, being a consistent member well until #94, but after that, he didn't appear as much as he used to. While the book may originally been about Hulk, Strange, and other A-Listers, it ended up being more about C and D-listers like Valkyrie, Nighthawk, Hellcat, and others, all of which got more focus than the founding members by the end of the group's original incarnation.

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* DemotedToExtra: This happened to '''all''' of the original members (plus Silver Surfer,) at one point or another in the original volume. Surfer was the one that got hit hardest, barely appearing in the book after joining the team for a few issues early on, but the others suffered from it too. [[PutOnABus Namor left in #14, while Doctor Strange left after the first Annual,]] and [[TheBusCameBack while both of them showed up again,]] [[CommutingOnABus it took a while for them to become as prominent as they used to be.]] Hulk didn't have as much of this as the others, being a consistent member well until #94, but after that, he didn't appear as much as he used to. While the book may originally have been about Hulk, Strange, and other A-Listers, it ended up being more about C and D-listers like Valkyrie, Nighthawk, Hellcat, and others, all of which got more focus than the founding members by the end of the group's original incarnation.
4th Mar '18 4:43:42 PM nombretomado
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This age of the series was famous for its bizarre stories and villains; most notably: The Headmen, a group of villains with weird heads; The Elf With A Gun, a mysterious elf-like character who went around shooting people for no reason (and whom The Defenders never actually met!) and Vera Gemini, a demonic cult leader who was based on an actual rock and roll band (Music/BlueOysterCult)'s songs! These stories were largely written by SteveGerber and David Anthony Kraft, who shepherded the group for the 1970s and early 1980s.

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This age of the series was famous for its bizarre stories and villains; most notably: The Headmen, a group of villains with weird heads; The Elf With A Gun, a mysterious elf-like character who went around shooting people for no reason (and whom The Defenders never actually met!) and Vera Gemini, a demonic cult leader who was based on an actual rock and roll band (Music/BlueOysterCult)'s songs! These stories were largely written by SteveGerber Creator/SteveGerber and David Anthony Kraft, who shepherded the group for the 1970s and early 1980s.



* GirlsBehindBars: Happens to Valkyrie during the 70's SteveGerber run.

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* GirlsBehindBars: Happens to Valkyrie during the 70's SteveGerber Creator/SteveGerber run.
24th Jan '18 8:26:37 PM pepsimax
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In the early 1980s, Marvel decided to revamp the book. Nighthawk was killed off (later upgraded to a ConvenientComa), Hellcat and Daimon Hellstrom married and retired, and a (bogus?) prophecy that Doctor Strange, Hulk, Namor, and Silver Surfer would bring about the end of the world led them to leave the team. Beast (having already joined up a while back,) Valkyrie and Gargoyle reformed the group with two of the other founding member of the ComicBook/XMen (The Angel and Iceman), along with the morally ambiguous Moondragon, the young Atlantis warrior Andromeda, and Cloud, a gas based alien who shape-shifted into both a man and woman during its time with the Defenders. Based in Colorado, in Angel's mansion, this incarnation lasted two years before the title was canceled so that the X-Men characters could be be freed up for the upcoming ''ComicBook/XFactor'' series. The entire team, save for Angel, Beast, and Iceman, [[HeroicSacrifice died saving a possessed Moondragon]].)

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In the early 1980s, Marvel decided to revamp the book. Nighthawk was killed off (later upgraded to a ConvenientComa), Hellcat and Daimon Hellstrom married and retired, and a (bogus?) prophecy that Doctor Strange, Hulk, Namor, and Silver Surfer would bring about the end of the world led them to leave the team. Beast ComicBook/{{Beast}} (having already joined up a while back,) Valkyrie and Gargoyle reformed the group with two of the other founding member of the ComicBook/XMen (The Angel and Iceman), along with the morally ambiguous Moondragon, the young Atlantis warrior Andromeda, and Cloud, a gas based alien who shape-shifted into both a man and woman during its time with the Defenders. Based in Colorado, in Angel's mansion, this incarnation lasted two years before the title was canceled so that the X-Men characters could be be freed up for the upcoming ''ComicBook/XFactor'' series. The entire team, save for Angel, Beast, and Iceman, [[HeroicSacrifice died saving a possessed Moondragon]].)
3rd Sep '17 7:49:25 AM DaibhidC
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As part of the Comicbook/MarvelNOW relaunch, the Defenders flag was flown by Valkyrie at the head of the all-female ''Fearless Defenders'', a title which originated in the ''Comicbook/FearItself'' tie-in, ''The Fearless'' but it was cancelled at issue 12.

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As part of the Comicbook/MarvelNOW relaunch, the Defenders flag was flown by Valkyrie at the head of the all-female ''Fearless Defenders'', ''Comicbook/FearlessDefenders'', a title which originated in the ''Comicbook/FearItself'' tie-in, ''The Fearless'' but it was cancelled at issue 12.



* AdventurerArchaeologist: Annabelle Riggs, who was introduced in ''Fearless Defenders'' #1.



* StayInTheKitchen: A variant in ''Fearless Defenders''. A bunch of male heroes with relations and connections to the current team met and planned to have an "intervention" to the women on why this new team was a bad idea, before they're all bluntly called out by retired heroine Shamrock on how they're just whining that Valkyrie, Misty, and the others just didn't tell them about it first.
** Flash Thompson comes across as the most etty when it comes right down to it, especially when it's revealed [[spoiler: he's mad that Annabelle Riggs, who is now sharing Valkyrie's body, essentially cockblocked him.]]
15th Jul '17 7:18:09 PM alliterator
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In November 2013, it was announced that Marvel would be producing a Defenders TV series for {{Creator/Netflix}}. Confirmed characters include [[InNameOnly such familiar faces as]] ComicBook/{{Luke Cage|HeroForHire}}, Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}, [[Comicbook/{{Alias}} Jessica Jones]], and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]]. While it uses the Defenders name, it's more akin to Marvel's short lived Marvel Knights team, which focused on street-level and darker heroes. In January 2017, a comic book based on that same roster was announced, which will be written by Creator/BrianMichaelBendis

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In November 2013, it was announced that Marvel would be producing a Defenders TV series for {{Creator/Netflix}}. Confirmed characters include [[InNameOnly such familiar faces as]] ComicBook/{{Luke Cage|HeroForHire}}, Comicbook/{{Daredevil}}, [[Comicbook/{{Alias}} Jessica Jones]], ComicBook/JessicaJones, and [[ComicBook/ImmortalIronFist Iron Fist]]. While it uses the Defenders name, it's more akin to Marvel's short lived Marvel Knights team, which focused on street-level and darker heroes. In January 2017, a comic book based on that same roster was announced, which will be written by Creator/BrianMichaelBendis
Creator/BrianMichaelBendis. Tropes for that series should go [[ComicBook/TheDefenders2017 here.]]
15th Jul '17 7:10:13 PM alliterator
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!Tropes seen in the 2017 series.

* AntiVillain: Felicia is not only freaked out by Diamondbacks level of violence but also saves Luke after he is poisoned.
* BackFromTheDead: Diamondback, not only is he now alive and well he CameBackStrong and is able to fight evenly with Jessica and move faster then Matt and Danny.
* EvilCannotComprehendGood: It apparently never occurs to DB that Black Cat would save Luke instead of letting him die.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: At the end of the first issue of the 2017 iteration, Black Cat reunites Luke Cage with Diamondback, who was thought dead for the longest time. Diamondback puts Cage through a CurbStompBattle and as he constantly smashes Cage's head into the floor, Cat has lost her cool and realized she's done something terrible.
* ShoutOut: The opening of issue 1 is a homage to the famous WebComic/CtrlAltDel loss.jpg meme.
15th Jul '17 2:03:23 PM StFan
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In the early 1980s, Marvel decided to revamp the book. Nighthawk was killed off (later upgraded to a ConvenientComa), Hellcat and Daimon Hellstrom married and retired, and a (bogus?) prophecy that Doctor Strange, Hulk, Namor, and Silver Surfer would bring about the end of the world led them to leave the team. Beast (having already joined up a while back,) Valkyrie and Gargoyle reformed the group with two of the other founding member of the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} (The Angel and Iceman), along with the morally ambiguous Moondragon, the young Atlantis warrior Andromeda, and Cloud, a gas based alien who shape-shifted into both a man and woman during its time with the Defenders. Based in Colorado, in Angel's mansion, this incarnation lasted two years before the title was canceled so that the X-Men characters could be be freed up for the upcoming ''Comicbook/{{X-Factor}}'' series. The entire team, save for Angel, Beast, and Iceman, [[HeroicSacrifice died saving a possessed Moondragon]].)

In the early 1990s, Marvel attempted to revive the Defenders as "Secret Defenders". This new series would have Doctor Strange organize squads of random heroes (including {{Wolverine}}, SpiderMan, ComicBook/{{Darkhawk}}, the second Spider-Woman, Comicbook/GhostRider, Hulk, Luke Cage, {{Deadpool}}, and many others) for one-off missions. The team made their first appearance in ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' #374 when Spider-Man, desperate to bring in the Human Torch for arson and everyone is having poor luck doing so, turns to Dr. Strange for help, who reassembles the rest of the "New Fantastic Four" (Hulk, Wolverine and Ghost Rider) to fight the Fantastic Four. Despite being considerably hyped by Marvel, the series did not do well and with the title launching coinciding with the launching of the more successful "Midnight Sons" horror sub-line (in which Doctor Strange could not take part due to Secret Defenders), it was decided to remove him from the book so that his title could be folded into the Midnight Son line. The title was then revamped with Doctor Druid as the new leader and a group of new heroes, but this new direction did little to revive interest in the book and it was quietly canceled by the end of its second year.

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In the early 1980s, Marvel decided to revamp the book. Nighthawk was killed off (later upgraded to a ConvenientComa), Hellcat and Daimon Hellstrom married and retired, and a (bogus?) prophecy that Doctor Strange, Hulk, Namor, and Silver Surfer would bring about the end of the world led them to leave the team. Beast (having already joined up a while back,) Valkyrie and Gargoyle reformed the group with two of the other founding member of the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} ComicBook/XMen (The Angel and Iceman), along with the morally ambiguous Moondragon, the young Atlantis warrior Andromeda, and Cloud, a gas based alien who shape-shifted into both a man and woman during its time with the Defenders. Based in Colorado, in Angel's mansion, this incarnation lasted two years before the title was canceled so that the X-Men characters could be be freed up for the upcoming ''Comicbook/{{X-Factor}}'' ''ComicBook/XFactor'' series. The entire team, save for Angel, Beast, and Iceman, [[HeroicSacrifice died saving a possessed Moondragon]].)

In the early 1990s, Marvel attempted to revive the Defenders as "Secret Defenders". This new series would have Doctor Strange organize squads of random heroes (including {{Wolverine}}, SpiderMan, ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}, ComicBook/SpiderMan, ComicBook/{{Darkhawk}}, the second Spider-Woman, Comicbook/GhostRider, Hulk, Luke Cage, {{Deadpool}}, ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}, and many others) for one-off missions. The team made their first appearance in ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' #374 when Spider-Man, desperate to bring in the Human Torch for arson and everyone is having poor luck doing so, turns to Dr. Strange for help, who reassembles the rest of the "New Fantastic Four" (Hulk, Wolverine and Ghost Rider) to fight the Fantastic Four. Despite being considerably hyped by Marvel, the series did not do well and with the title launching coinciding with the launching of the more successful "Midnight Sons" horror sub-line (in which Doctor Strange could not take part due to Secret Defenders), it was decided to remove him from the book so that his title could be folded into the Midnight Son line. The title was then revamped with Doctor Druid as the new leader and a group of new heroes, but this new direction did little to revive interest in the book and it was quietly canceled by the end of its second year.
28th Jun '17 11:08:00 AM TheLaughingFist
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* EvilCannotComprehendGood: It apparently never occurs to DB that Black Cat would save Luke instead of letting him die.
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: At the end of the first issue of the 2017 iteration, Black Cat reunites Luke Cage with Diamondback, who was thought dead for the longest time. Diamondback puts Cage through a CurbStompBattle and as he constantly smashes Cage's head into the floor, Cat has lost her cool and realized she's done something terrible.
28th Jun '17 11:03:25 AM TheLaughingFist
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!Tropes seen in the (various) Defender series:

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!Tropes seen in the (various) Pre-2017 Defender series:



* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: At the end of the first issue of the 2017 iteration, Black Cat reunites Luke Cage with Diamondback, who was thought dead for the longest time. Diamondback puts Cage through a CurbStompBattle and as he constantly smashes Cage's head into the floor, Cat has lost her cool and realized she's done something terrible.




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!Tropes seen in the 2017 series.

* AntiVillain: Felicia is not only freaked out by Diamondbacks level of violence but also saves Luke after he is poisoned.
* BackFromTheDead: Diamondback, not only is he now alive and well he CameBackStrong and is able to fight evenly with Jessica and move faster then Matt and Danny.
* ShoutOut: The opening of issue 1 is a homage to the famous WebComic/CtrlAltDel loss.jpg meme.
14th Jun '17 9:28:19 PM MagiMecha
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: At the end of the first issue of the 2017 iteration, Black Cat reunites Luke Cage with Diamondback, who was thought dead for the longest time. Diamondback puts Cage through a CurbStompBattle and as he constantly smashes Cage's head into the floor, Cat has lost her cool and realized she's done something terrible.
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