History Comicbook / BrodysGhost

22nd Jun '16 1:50:57 AM TheFLL
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* AntiHero: Brody's a clear ClassicalAntiHero, with Kagemra effectively a KnightInSourArmor. [[spoiler: Talia is either a NominalHero or an outright AntiVillain, given her ManipulativeBastard tendencies, her desire to go after the Penny Murderer being largely personal, and her utter lack of remorse in threatening or endangering innocents to get what she wants.]]

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* AntiHero: Brody's a clear ClassicalAntiHero, with Kagemra Kagemura effectively a KnightInSourArmor. [[spoiler: Talia is either a NominalHero or an outright AntiVillain, given her ManipulativeBastard tendencies, her desire to go after the Penny Murderer being largely personal, and her utter lack of remorse in threatening or endangering innocents to get what she wants.]]


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* FemmeFatale: [[spoiler: Talia doesn't exactly scream MsFanservice, but in every other respect, she's this. She cajoles Brody to go after the SerialKiller in the first place, and despite feigning the role of a PunchClockHero in the first few issues, it becomes clear she knows more than she's letting on. She's one hell of an opportunist and a manipulator when push comes to shove, if that's not enough.]]
22nd Jun '16 1:31:29 AM TheFLL
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* AntiHero: Brody's a clear ClassicalAntiHero, with Kagemaru effectively a KnightInSourArmor. [[spoiler: Talia is either a NominalHero or an outright AntiVillain, given her ManipulativeBastard tendencies, her desire to go after the Penny Murderer being largely personal, and her utter lack of remorse in threatening or endangering innocents to get what she wants.]]

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* AntiHero: Brody's a clear ClassicalAntiHero, with Kagemaru Kagemra effectively a KnightInSourArmor. [[spoiler: Talia is either a NominalHero or an outright AntiVillain, given her ManipulativeBastard tendencies, her desire to go after the Penny Murderer being largely personal, and her utter lack of remorse in threatening or endangering innocents to get what she wants.]]



* BeYourself: Deconstructed. Kagemaru demands that Brody destroy all but his most essential belongings so he can focus on his training, to which Brody initially refuses, citing that Kagemaru is trying to change who he is. Given that at this point Brody has proven to be an out of shape slacker who let one break up ruin much of his life, Talia bluntly points out that he ''needs'' to change who he is, because who he currently is is ''not'' good.
* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: The Penny Murderer's dead, and Nicole survives. But Landon, who's used every cop and mob connection he has to ruin what's left of Brody's life at this point, gets the credit, and Brody has to stay with Kagemaru, as he has no where to go after becoming a fugitive. However, he does patch things up with both Talia and Nicole, who's learned the whole story from Gabe, and the ending implies that Nicole and Brody will get back together, with Nicole pulling some strings to get him a new identity and a steady job away from the limelight.]]

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* BeYourself: Deconstructed. Kagemaru Kagemura demands that Brody destroy all but his most essential belongings so he can focus on his training, to which Brody initially refuses, citing that Kagemaru Kagemura is trying to change who he is. Given that at this point Brody has proven to be an out of shape slacker who let one break up ruin much of his life, Talia bluntly points out that he ''needs'' to change who he is, because who he currently is is ''not'' good.
* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: The Penny Murderer's dead, and Nicole survives. But Landon, who's used every cop and mob connection he has to ruin what's left of Brody's life at this point, gets the credit, and Brody has to stay with Kagemaru, Kagemura, as he has no where to go after becoming a fugitive. However, he does patch things up with both Talia and Nicole, who's learned the whole story from Gabe, and the ending implies that Nicole and Brody will get back together, with Nicole pulling some strings to get him a new identity and a steady job away from the limelight.]]



* GoodIsNotNice: Brody's a hot tempered slacker, Talia is a sardonic teen ghost, and Kagemaru is the ancient Japanese equivalent to the grouchy old man, but all three are ultimately good people with their heart in the right place.
* GratuitousJapanese (so far): For a city that doesn't appear to be in Japan, there sure is a lot of kanji and katakana around. It's implied that there was an influx of Japanese immigration at one point, given the presence of run down Shinto temples that Kagemaru has attached himself to, as well as Japanese cafes and bookstores.

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* GoodIsNotNice: Brody's a hot tempered slacker, Talia is a sardonic teen ghost, and Kagemaru Kagemura is the ancient Japanese equivalent to the grouchy old man, but all three are ultimately good people with their heart in the right place.
* GratuitousJapanese (so far): For a city that doesn't appear to be in Japan, there sure is a lot of kanji and katakana around. It's implied that there was an influx of Japanese immigration at one point, given the presence of run down Shinto temples that Kagemaru Kagemura has attached himself to, as well as Japanese cafes and bookstores.



* HeelRealization: [[spoiler: During the time between dropping him off at a park, and meeting with him again at Kagemaru's shrine, Talia ends up realising that while she doesn't regret the Penny Murderer's death, Brody has plenty of reasons to drop her like a hot potato at this point, since getting involved in the case has ruined his relationship with his ex and turned him into a fugitive. [[{{Tsundere}} Despite claiming that she's not apologising, seeing the situation Brody's in really hurts, and she's grateful that Brody's willing to still have her as a friend in spite of everything.]]]]

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* HeelRealization: [[spoiler: During the time between dropping him off at a park, and meeting with him again at Kagemaru's Kagemura's shrine, Talia ends up realising that while she doesn't regret the Penny Murderer's death, Brody has plenty of reasons to drop her like a hot potato at this point, since getting involved in the case has ruined his relationship with his ex and turned him into a fugitive. [[{{Tsundere}} Despite claiming that she's not apologising, seeing the situation Brody's in really hurts, and she's grateful that Brody's willing to still have her as a friend in spite of everything.]]]]



* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: While his involvement with Talia forces Brody to get his life together, he ends up in some hair raising scenarios he wouldn't have been before he met Talia. [[spoiler: By the end, all the effort he put into bringing the Penny Murderer to justice is credited to the man who put the mob and the police on him, and he's forced to hole up at Kagemaru's temple as a fugitive. Thankfully, Gabe and Nicole manage to make his situation manageable in the aftermath.]]

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* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: While his involvement with Talia forces Brody to get his life together, he ends up in some hair raising scenarios he wouldn't have been before he met Talia. [[spoiler: By the end, all the effort he put into bringing the Penny Murderer to justice is credited to the man who put the mob and the police on him, and he's forced to hole up at Kagemaru's Kagemura's temple as a fugitive. Thankfully, Gabe and Nicole manage to make his situation manageable in the aftermath.]]
21st Jun '16 4:41:44 PM jahman
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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: Landon is almost certainly a mobster, and has attempted to kill Brody twice over at this point: not only does he ''not'' get punished, he actually gets the fame, and presumably the reward, for taking down the Penny Murderer. Likewise, despite proving herself a ManipulativeBitch of the highest order, and threatening and endangering Brody numerous times, all Talia gets is a WhatTheHellHeroSpeech from Brody, who nevertheless lets her stay as a friend. Justified, in that the city is very corrupt, and Talia's a ghost: there's no real way Brody or anyone else could punish them if they wanted to.]]

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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: Landon is almost certainly a mobster, and has attempted to kill Brody twice over at this point: not only does he ''not'' get punished, he actually gets the fame, and presumably the reward, for taking down the Penny Murderer. Likewise, despite proving herself a ManipulativeBitch of the highest order, and threatening and endangering Brody numerous times, all Talia gets is a WhatTheHellHeroSpeech from Brody, who nevertheless lets her stay as a friend. Justified, in that the city is very corrupt, and Talia's a ghost: there's no real way Brody or anyone else could punish them even if they wanted to.]]



* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler: Due to a series of misunderstandings, Nicole comes to believe that Brody's become a StalkerWithACrush, and reveals everything she knows about him to her new boyfriend out of misplaced fear and anger. She's understandably horrified to discover from Gabe that Brody was ''actually'' trying to protect her from the Penny Murderer, and her boyfriend had very nearly had him killed as a result of what's happened. Thankfully, Brody loves her way too much to hate her for it.]]

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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler: Due to a series of misunderstandings, Nicole comes to believe that Brody's become a StalkerWithACrush, and reveals everything she knows about him to her new boyfriend out of misplaced fear and anger. She's understandably horrified to discover from Gabe that Brody was ''actually'' trying to protect her from the Penny Murderer, and her boyfriend had made him a fugitive and very nearly had him killed as a result of what's happened.happened. First thing she does when she see him again was to tearfully apology for ultimately making things much worse for him for trying to save her life. Thankfully, Brody loves her way too much to hate her for it.]]
21st Jun '16 1:34:03 PM TheFLL
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* Hypocrite: Talia claims that she's searching for the Penny Murderer to fulfill her life task, and despite thinking they're a monster, refuses to treat the hunt as a form of revenge, as she doesn't like where that path would take her. [[spoiler: Turns out, not only ''is'' there no life task for ghosts, her actual goal is ''entirely'' about revenge, and she doesn't remotely attempt to deny it when exposed.]]

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* Hypocrite: {{Hypocrite}}: Talia claims that she's searching for the Penny Murderer to fulfill her life task, and despite thinking they're a monster, refuses to treat the hunt as a form of revenge, as she doesn't like where that path would take her. [[spoiler: Turns out, not only ''is'' there no life task for ghosts, her actual goal is ''entirely'' about revenge, and she doesn't remotely attempt to deny it when exposed.]]
21st Jun '16 1:33:45 PM TheFLL
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* CerebusSyndrome: While the story is essentially a crime thriller with supernatural elements from the get go, there's some humour in the first few issues, as it mostly focuses on Brody's crap life, and getting him out of it. Then Brody finds out Nicole is a potential target for death, he gets to encounter several of the families affecting by the murders investigated, and Talia's backstory comes to light, and things get dark real fast.

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* CerebusSyndrome: While the story is essentially a crime thriller with supernatural elements from the get go, there's some humour in the first few issues, as it mostly focuses on Brody's crap life, and getting him out of it. Then Brody finds out Nicole is a potential target for death, he gets to encounter several of the families affecting affected by the murders investigated, Penny Murders, and Talia's backstory comes to light, and things get dark real fast.



* GratuitousJapanese (so far): For a city that doesn't appear to be in Japan, there sure is a lot of kanji and katakana around. It's implied that there was an influx of Japanese immigration at one point, given the presence of run down Shinto temples that Kagemaru has attached himself to.

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* GratuitousJapanese (so far): For a city that doesn't appear to be in Japan, there sure is a lot of kanji and katakana around. It's implied that there was an influx of Japanese immigration at one point, given the presence of run down Shinto temples that Kagemaru has attached himself to.to, as well as Japanese cafes and bookstores.



* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: While his involvement with Talia forces Brody to get his life together, he ends up in some hair raising scenarios he wouldn't have been before he met Talia. [[spoiler: By the end, all thePenny effort he put in bringing the Penny Murderer to justice is credited to the man who put the mob and the police on him, and tried to personally kill him twice, and he's forced to hole up at Kagemaru's temple as a fugitive. Thankfully, Gabe and Nicole manage to make his situation manageable in the aftermath.]]

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* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: While his involvement with Talia forces Brody to get his life together, he ends up in some hair raising scenarios he wouldn't have been before he met Talia. [[spoiler: By the end, all thePenny the effort he put in into bringing the Penny Murderer to justice is credited to the man who put the mob and the police on him, and tried to personally kill him twice, and he's forced to hole up at Kagemaru's temple as a fugitive. Thankfully, Gabe and Nicole manage to make his situation manageable in the aftermath.]]
21st Jun '16 12:55:46 PM TheFLL
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* BeingGoodSucks: [[spoiler: All Brody wants is to protect his ex-girlfriend from a serial killer, but because of his situation, no one other than his friend Gabe believes he has powers, and thinks he's either a crazy stalker that's obsessed with his ex, or a crazy, pathetic loser that's desperate for the reward money of capturing the Penny Murderer, often leading to him getting into fights and got his home vandalized. And because of this, his ex girlfriend hates him, and calls the police on him after getting back at the guy who vandalized his home (who just happens to be her new boyfriend). It doesn't help that he was tricked by Talia to become her instrument of vengeance towards said serial killer, either. Poor guy can't catch a break.]]

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* BeingGoodSucks: [[spoiler: All Brody wants is to protect his ex-girlfriend from a serial killer, but because of his situation, no one other than his friend Gabe believes he has powers, and thinks he's either a crazy stalker that's obsessed with his ex, or a crazy, pathetic loser that's desperate for the reward money of capturing the Penny Murderer, often leading to him getting into fights and got his home vandalized. And because of this, his ex girlfriend hates him, and calls the police on him after getting back at the guy who vandalized his home (who just happens to be her new boyfriend). It doesn't help that he was tricked by Talia to become her instrument of vengeance towards said serial killer, either. Poor guy can't catch a break.]]]] Summed up by Brody himself, when all's said and done:
--> '''Brody''' : "And now [the Penny Murderer]'s dead too. [[FakeUltimateHero And Landon James is the toast of the town.]] [[DidNotGetTheGirl And Nicole probably loves him more than ever.]] [[HomelessHero And I don't even have an apartment anymore. And I'm eating food that came from dumpsters.]]"
--> '''Talia''' : "[[WhatYouAreInTheDark You're a hero.]] [[HeroWithBadPublicity Whether the world understands that or not.]]"
--> '''Brody''' : "I'm sorry, Talia. But if this is what it's like being a hero... [[EvilPaysBetter I think I'd rather be the bad guy.]]"



* GratuitousJapanese (so far): For a city that doesn't appear to be in Japan, there sure is a lot of kanji and katakana around. It's implied that there was an influx of Japanese immigration at one point, given the presence of run down Shinto temples that kagemaru has attached himself to.

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* GratuitousJapanese (so far): For a city that doesn't appear to be in Japan, there sure is a lot of kanji and katakana around. It's implied that there was an influx of Japanese immigration at one point, given the presence of run down Shinto temples that kagemaru Kagemaru has attached himself to.


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* HeelRealization: [[spoiler: During the time between dropping him off at a park, and meeting with him again at Kagemaru's shrine, Talia ends up realising that while she doesn't regret the Penny Murderer's death, Brody has plenty of reasons to drop her like a hot potato at this point, since getting involved in the case has ruined his relationship with his ex and turned him into a fugitive. [[{{Tsundere}} Despite claiming that she's not apologising, seeing the situation Brody's in really hurts, and she's grateful that Brody's willing to still have her as a friend in spite of everything.]]]]
21st Jun '16 12:32:05 PM TheFLL
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* FilmNoir: A ''very'' unconventional example, but Brody's Ghost has all the hallmarks: troubled, down on his luck protagonist who nevertheless proves his moral fiber, approached to solve a MurderMystery; a city setting in an advanced state of urban decay, dominated by criminals; and a FemmeFatale figure, who's involvement with the protagonist brings him into trouble, and arguably leaves him worse off by the end.

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* FilmNoir: A ''very'' unconventional example, but Brody's Ghost has all the hallmarks: troubled, down on his luck protagonist who nevertheless proves his moral fiber, approached to solve a MurderMystery; internal monologues and ruminations over future and past events; a city setting in an advanced state of urban decay, dominated by criminals; and a FemmeFatale figure, who's involvement with the protagonist brings him into trouble, and arguably leaves him worse off by the end.


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* Hypocrite: Talia claims that she's searching for the Penny Murderer to fulfill her life task, and despite thinking they're a monster, refuses to treat the hunt as a form of revenge, as she doesn't like where that path would take her. [[spoiler: Turns out, not only ''is'' there no life task for ghosts, her actual goal is ''entirely'' about revenge, and she doesn't remotely attempt to deny it when exposed.]]


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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: [[spoiler: Due to a series of misunderstandings, Nicole comes to believe that Brody's become a StalkerWithACrush, and reveals everything she knows about him to her new boyfriend out of misplaced fear and anger. She's understandably horrified to discover from Gabe that Brody was ''actually'' trying to protect her from the Penny Murderer, and her boyfriend had very nearly had him killed as a result of what's happened. Thankfully, Brody loves her way too much to hate her for it.]]


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* TeensAreMonsters: In Book 1, Brody gets into an encounter with one of the many biker gangs troubling the city, and after antagonising them, gets brutalised, and very nearly murdered by [[CuteAndPsycho a dorky looking twelve year old member]] before Talia steps in.
21st Jun '16 12:05:32 PM TheFLL
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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: Landon is almost certainly a mobster, and has attempted to kill Brody twice over at this point: not only does he ''not'' get punished, he actually gets the fame, and presumably the reward, for taking down the Penny Murderer. Likewise, despite proving herself a ManipulativeBitch of the highest order, and threatening and endangering Brody numerous times, all Talia gets is a WhatTheHellHeroSpeech from Brody, who nevertheless lets her stay as a friend. Justified, in that the city is very corrupt, and Talia's a ghost: there's no real way Brody or anyone else could punish them if they wanted to.]]
21st Jun '16 11:58:51 AM TheFLL
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* GratuitousJapanese (so far): For a city that doesn't appear to be in Japan, there sure is a lot of kanji and katakana around.

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* GratuitousJapanese (so far): For a city that doesn't appear to be in Japan, there sure is a lot of kanji and katakana around. It's implied that there was an influx of Japanese immigration at one point, given the presence of run down Shinto temples that kagemaru has attached himself to.


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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Both Brody and Talia are snarky, self-pitying but ultimately well meaning. [[spoiler: Talia's jerk side takes centre stage as the climax approaches however.]]
* ManipulativeBastard: [[spoiler: Talia. She uses the cover story of GhostlyGoals, and the offer of a bounty to convince Brody to play along with her revenge scheme against the Penny Murderer. When Brody proves too uncooperative and moral for her liking, and directly defies her request to not see her mother for information, she ''lets'' him get caught by the police, and then extracts a promise to kill the Penny Murderer personally under threat of torture and death by corrupt police. And when the moment arrives, and he proves unwilling to kill him, even under threats, she waits until the last second while Landon prepares to shoot, and then possesses Brody to move him out of the line of fire, keeping Brody safe, and causing Landon to kill the Penny Murderer.]]
21st Jun '16 11:36:19 AM TheFLL
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* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: While his involvement with Talia forces Brody to get his life together, he ends up in some hair raising scenarios he wouldn't have been before he met Talia. [[spoiler: By the end, all the effort he put in bringing the Penny Murderer to justice is credited to the man who put the mob and the police on him, and tried to personally kill him twice, and he's forced to hole up at Kagemaru's temple as a fugitive. Thankfully, Gabe and Nicole manage to make his situation manageable in the aftermath.]]

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* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: While his involvement with Talia forces Brody to get his life together, he ends up in some hair raising scenarios he wouldn't have been before he met Talia. [[spoiler: By the end, all the thePenny effort he put in bringing the Penny Murderer to justice is credited to the man who put the mob and the police on him, and tried to personally kill him twice, and he's forced to hole up at Kagemaru's temple as a fugitive. Thankfully, Gabe and Nicole manage to make his situation manageable in the aftermath.]]


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* WithFriendsLikeThese: [[spoiler: After everything she's done (including, but not limited to, attempting to use Brody's ex as bait for a SerialKiller, and threatening to leave Brody in the hands of vicious mobsters to be tortured to death unless he agreed to kill the Penny Murderer with his bare hands) Brody bluntly, and not without justification, calls Talia one of the most manipulative and evil people he's met. [[TheyReallyDoLoveEachOther But he still lets her stay around as a friend, because as a fugitive in hiding, he needs all the friends he can get at this point.]]]]
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