History ComicBook / Ultimatum

8th Aug '16 3:43:05 AM Scorntex
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: In the aftermath, the U.S. government creates and passes a law rendering just ''being'' a Mutant illegal, to the extent anyone found being a mutant is arrested without trial. In other words, a bill of attainder, which are meant to be forbidden.


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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: It probably isn't a coincidence that when [[spoiler:Cyclops is killed]], the only two X-Men arrested are the black woman and the gay Russian.


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* IdiotBall: Among the more glaring examples, the final issue has the X-Men going along with the U.S. government declaring Mutants completely illegal, along with Jean and Rogue doing nothing to help Storm and Colossus when they're arrested.
18th May '16 10:29:14 PM Cronosonic
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* RocksFallEveryoneDies: Could be the comic codifier. With the amount of ridiculous deaths, it starts to seem like someone at Marvel was using this as some sort of catharsis.

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* RocksFallEveryoneDies: Could be the comic codifier. With the amount of ridiculous deaths, it starts to seem like someone at Marvel was using this as some sort of catharsis. [[note]]Most obvious candidate being Creator/JephLoeb, who was suffering from grief after the death of his son.[[/note]]
30th Mar '16 3:19:48 PM AnotherGuy
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** Apparently, the initial thought was that ''Ultimatum'' would serve as a reboot for the entire Ultimates universe. It turned out to not be the case, so the universe had to deal with with the aftermath.
25th Feb '16 6:22:03 PM KingClark
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It starts with SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} stealing [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]'s hammer. Swearing to avenge his children's deaths at the hands of the Ultimates, and he uses its powers to flood New York and cause natural disasters around the world. And then, well, [[FromBadToWorse it goes pretty much downhill from there]]. The series lasted for 5 issues (January-July, 2009).

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It starts with SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} stealing [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]'s hammer. Swearing to avenge his children's deaths at the hands of the Ultimates, and he uses its powers to flood New York and cause catastrophic natural disasters around the world. And then, well, [[FromBadToWorse it goes things pretty much go downhill from there]]. The series lasted for 5 issues (January-July, 2009).
25th Feb '16 5:11:33 PM KingClark
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It starts with SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} claiming [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]'s hammer and using it to flood New York. And then, well, [[FromBadToWorse it goes pretty much downhill from there.]] The series lasted for 5 issues (January-July, 2009).

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It starts with SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} claiming stealing [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]'s hammer hammer. Swearing to avenge his children's deaths at the hands of the Ultimates, and using it he uses its powers to flood New York. York and cause natural disasters around the world. And then, well, [[FromBadToWorse it goes pretty much downhill from there.]] there]]. The series lasted for 5 issues (January-July, 2009).



* AnyoneCanDie: And we mean ''ANYONE.'' [[http://marvel.wikia.com/Ultimatum Here's a full list of deaths.]]

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* AnyoneCanDie: And we mean ''ANYONE.'' '''ANYONE'''. Although it turned out that DeathIsCheap in a handful of cases, most of the characters that died in this miniseries were permanently put down for the count. [[http://marvel.wikia.com/Ultimatum Here's a full list of deaths.]]



* CrisisCrossover
* DarkerAndEdgier
* DisneyDeath: [[spoiler: [[ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan Spider-Man]] manages to survive his near death experience, presumably because Bendis didn't want him killed off... [[HarsherInHindsight yet.]]]]
** [[spoiler: Valkyrie and CaptainAmerica too. Being resurrected by Thor's Sacrifice.]]
* DisproportionateRetribution: The reason why Magneto doing this [[spoiler: His children being killed. Bit of an overreaction there dude. And even then its revealed he was being manipulated into doing this by his own son, Quicksilver with the help of a mysterious woman and we still don't even know the reason why they did this in the first place. Should further be noted that he was ''horribly, horribly'' abusive to said children, to the point of ''crippling'' his son at one point just for siding against him, further adding to his hypocrisy.]]

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* CrisisCrossover
CrisisCrossover: The first major one for the entire Ultimate Marvel line.
* DarkerAndEdgier
DarkerAndEdgier: The violence in this series is cranked to an all-time high, and nobody comes out of the catastrophe unchanged.
* DisneyDeath: [[spoiler: [[ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan Spider-Man]] DisneyDeath:
** [[spoiler:Spider-Man
manages to survive his near death near-death experience, presumably because Bendis didn't want him killed off... [[HarsherInHindsight yet.]]]]
off.]]
** [[spoiler: Valkyrie [[spoiler:Valkyrie and CaptainAmerica Captain America too. Being resurrected by Thor's Sacrifice.]]
* DisproportionateRetribution: The reason why Magneto doing this [[spoiler: His children being killed. caused the apocalypse was to get back at the Ultimates for the deaths of his children. Bit of an overreaction there there, dude. And even then its revealed he was being manipulated into doing this by his own son, Quicksilver with the help of a mysterious woman and we still don't even know the reason why they did this in the first place. Should It should further be noted that he was ''horribly, horribly'' abusive to said children, to the point of ''crippling'' his son at one point just for siding against him, further adding to his hypocrisy.]]



* InfantImmortality: Notably, the [[spoiler:mostly teenage cast of ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'']] survives untouched, as do [[spoiler:the youngest members of the X-Men]]. Subverted with [[spoiler:the Fantastic Four, as all four members of the team survive (With the exception of Johnny, the team are all in their early twenties), but Sue & Johnny's dad doesn't]].

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* InfantImmortality: Notably, the [[spoiler:mostly teenage cast of ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'']] ''Ultimate Spider-Man'']] survives untouched, as do [[spoiler:the youngest members of the X-Men]]. Subverted with [[spoiler:the X-Men and all of the Fantastic Four, as all four members of the team survive (With the exception of Johnny, the team are all in their early twenties), but Sue & Johnny's dad doesn't]].Four]].



* MoodWhiplash: In an example so cruel that [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] actually uses the TropeNamer clip for AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent to describe it, we go from the truly awesome moment of Cap and Thor fighting the hordes of the undead to [[spoiler: the Blob EATING the Wasp.]]

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* MoodWhiplash: In an example so cruel that [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] actually uses the TropeNamer clip for AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent to describe it, we We go from the truly awesome moment of Cap and Thor fighting the hordes of the undead to [[spoiler: the nauseating scene of [[spoiler:the Blob EATING cannibalizing the Wasp.]] Wasp]].



** [[spoiler: Could be a case of HarsherInHindsight when you consider what Ultimate Reed goes on to do down the road in The Ultimates himself. ]]



* WhamEpisode

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* WhamEpisodeWhamEpisode: The entire exercise of the series was to shift everything around so much that the status quo could never return.
25th Feb '16 4:30:46 PM KingClark
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It started off as a simple task. The ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe, originally created to appeal to new readers [[AdaptationDistillation without fear of years]] of BackStory or {{Retcon}}, had begun to stagnate. Sales had lowered and some series, such as ComicBook/UltimateXMen and ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, had fallen into SeasonalRot. So the powers behind Marvel came up with the [[IncrediblyLamePun ultimate]] plan to renew reader interest, a CrisisCrossOver. A WhamEpisode which would bring all the characters of the Ultimate Marvel universe and shake up the status quo to make a new jumping on point for new readers, written by Creator/JephLoeb.

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It started off as a simple task. The ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe, originally created to appeal to new readers [[AdaptationDistillation without fear of years]] of BackStory or {{Retcon}}, had begun to stagnate. Sales had lowered and some series, such as ComicBook/UltimateXMen and ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, had fallen into SeasonalRot. So the powers behind Marvel came up with the [[IncrediblyLamePun ultimate]] a plan to renew reader interest, interest by means of a CrisisCrossOver. A WhamEpisode which would bring all the characters of the Ultimate Marvel universe and shake up the status quo to make a new jumping on point for new readers, written by Creator/JephLoeb.



Unfortunately, the series was not very well received. The series was criticized for relying on shock value, [[DroppedABridgeOnHim anticlimactic deaths]], and borderline {{Gorn}}. On the brighter side, the art was praised and the series actually did accomplish its task of creating a new status quo for the universe, and was a sales success. [[IncrediblyLamePun Ultimately]], this storyline is a rather [[InternetBackdraft touchy subject.]]

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Unfortunately, the series was not very well received. The series was criticized for relying on shock value, [[DroppedABridgeOnHim anticlimactic deaths]], and borderline {{Gorn}}. On the brighter side, the art was praised and the series actually did accomplish its task of creating a new status quo for the universe, and was a sales success. [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} Ultimately]], this storyline is a rather [[InternetBackdraft touchy subject.]]



* RasputinianDeath: [[spoiler:Wolverine's]]; first almost all his soft tissue is blasted away, then his skeleton is torn apart, then the individual cells of his last remaining bones are destroyed.

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* RasputinianDeath: RasputinianDeath:
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[[spoiler:Wolverine's]]; first almost all his soft tissue is blasted away, then his skeleton is torn apart, then the individual cells of his last remaining bones are destroyed.



* WHAMEpisode

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* WHAMEpisodeWhamEpisode
25th Sep '15 5:38:35 PM nombretomado
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* ImAHumanitarian: When {{Hawkeye}} finds [[spoiler:Wasp]]'s body, it's had a chunk bitten out of it by The Blob, who comments that it "{{tastes like chicken}}".

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* ImAHumanitarian: When {{Hawkeye}} ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} finds [[spoiler:Wasp]]'s body, it's had a chunk bitten out of it by The Blob, who comments that it "{{tastes like chicken}}".
16th Jun '15 7:50:39 AM johnnyfog
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->''I donít think anything quite sums it up like the fact that ''Ultimatum'' is a comic that doesnít have an ultimatum in it. Like the series itself, itís just something that someone thought [[ExcusePlot sounded cool]], and [[FridgeLogic the more you think about it,]] the worse it gets.''

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->''I donít think anything quite sums it up like the fact that ''Ultimatum'' is a comic that doesnít have an ultimatum in it. Like the series itself, itís just something that someone thought [[ExcusePlot sounded cool]], cool, and [[FridgeLogic the more you think about it,]] it, the worse it gets.''
10th Jan '15 3:20:50 PM johnnyfog
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->''"I donít think anything quite sums it up like the fact that ''Ultimatum'' is a comic that doesnít have an ultimatum in it. Like the series itself, itís just something that someone thought [[ExcusePlot sounded cool]], and [[FridgeLogic the more you think about it,]] the worse it gets."''

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->''"I ->''I donít think anything quite sums it up like the fact that ''Ultimatum'' is a comic that doesnít have an ultimatum in it. Like the series itself, itís just something that someone thought [[ExcusePlot sounded cool]], and [[FridgeLogic the more you think about it,]] the worse it gets."''''
3rd Jan '15 3:54:59 AM Anicomicgeek
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It started off as a simple task. The ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe, originally created to appeal to new readers [[AdaptationDistillation without fear of years]] of BackStory or {{Retcon}}, had begun to stagnate. Sales had lowered and some series, such as ComicBook/UltimateXMen}} and ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, had fallen into SeasonalRot. So the powers behind Marvel came up with the [[IncrediblyLamePun ultimate]] plan to renew reader interest, a CrisisCrossOver. A WhamEpisode which would bring all the characters of the Ultimate Marvel universe and shake up the status quo to make a new jumping on point for new readers, written by Creator/JephLoeb.

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It started off as a simple task. The ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe, originally created to appeal to new readers [[AdaptationDistillation without fear of years]] of BackStory or {{Retcon}}, had begun to stagnate. Sales had lowered and some series, such as ComicBook/UltimateXMen}} ComicBook/UltimateXMen and ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, had fallen into SeasonalRot. So the powers behind Marvel came up with the [[IncrediblyLamePun ultimate]] plan to renew reader interest, a CrisisCrossOver. A WhamEpisode which would bring all the characters of the Ultimate Marvel universe and shake up the status quo to make a new jumping on point for new readers, written by Creator/JephLoeb.
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