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Consumed by the ensuing mental chasm and a deep hatred of Spider-Man -- who he views as the source of all the pain and suffering in his life -- the now-rechristened Chasm has vowed to destroy his progenitor. To that end, Chasm has struck an alliance with another, [[ComicBook/{{Hellions}} recently resurrected]], villainous clone: [[Characters/MarvelComicsMadelynePryor Madelyne Pryor]], a.k.a. the Goblin Queen and now the [[ComicBook/NewMutants2019 newly ascended Queen of Limbo]], who has suffered very similar experiences with the Mutants due to being Jean Grey's clone and having her own scores to settle.

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Consumed by the ensuing mental chasm and a deep hatred of Spider-Man -- who whom he views as the source of all the pain and suffering in his life -- the now-rechristened Chasm has vowed to destroy his progenitor. To that end, Chasm has struck an alliance with another, [[ComicBook/{{Hellions}} recently resurrected]], villainous clone: [[Characters/MarvelComicsMadelynePryor Madelyne Pryor]], a.k.a. the Goblin Queen and now the [[ComicBook/NewMutants2019 newly ascended Queen of Limbo]], who has suffered very similar experiences with the Mutants due to being Jean Grey's clone and having her own scores to settle.
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* GrandFinale: ''Mary Jane & Black Cat'' serves as the final installment of Jed [=MacKay=]'s overarching ''Black Cat'' MythArc, ending his 5 year run with Felicia Hardy. Custodianship of Felicia would pass to Celeste Bronfman beginning with the next crossover event ''Gang War''.
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** Battling the monster Rockefeller Center Christmas tree makes Spider-Man quip that New York should have used a [[WesternAnimation/ACharlieBrownChristmas Charlie Brown style tree]] instead, and Firestar is rescues [[Franchise/{{Peanuts}} a beagle]] from the tree.

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** Battling the monster Rockefeller Center Christmas tree makes Spider-Man quip that New York should have used a [[WesternAnimation/ACharlieBrownChristmas Charlie Brown style tree]] instead, and Firestar is rescues [[Franchise/{{Peanuts}} a beagle]] from the tree.

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* ShoutOut: During ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #15, Peter's weapon of choice against a brainwashed Venom? [[ItMakesSenseInContext Japanese manga!]] The cover of the graphic novel in question, ''Ramen Ninja'', has a copyright-friendly, yet still familiar image of [[Characters/NarutoNarutoUzumaki a certain blond-haired ramen-eating shinobi]].

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During ''Amazing Spider-Man'' #15, Peter's weapon of choice against a brainwashed Venom? [[ItMakesSenseInContext Japanese manga!]] The cover of the graphic novel in question, ''Ramen Ninja'', has a copyright-friendly, yet still familiar image of [[Characters/NarutoNarutoUzumaki a certain blond-haired ramen-eating shinobi]].shinobi]].
** Battling the monster Rockefeller Center Christmas tree makes Spider-Man quip that New York should have used a [[WesternAnimation/ACharlieBrownChristmas Charlie Brown style tree]] instead, and Firestar is rescues [[Franchise/{{Peanuts}} a beagle]] from the tree.

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* CloneAngst: The motivation for the BigBadDuumvirate are the emotional pain Ben and Madelyne have suffered since they were created and their desire to seize something for themselves that their genetic sources have.



* CloningBlues: The motivation for the BigBadDuumvirate are the emotional pain Ben and Madelyne have suffered since they were created and their desire to seize something for themselves that their genetic sources have.
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** ''[[ComicBook/VenomEwingAndRamV Venom]]'' (Vol. 5) #13

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** ''[[ComicBook/VenomEwingAndRamV Venom]]'' ''ComicBook/{{Venom|2021}}'' (Vol. 5) #13



** ''[[ComicBook/VenomEwingAndRamV Venom]]'' (Vol. 5) #14-16

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** ''[[ComicBook/VenomEwingAndRamV Venom]]'' ''ComicBook/{{Venom|2021}}'' (Vol. 5) #14-16



* ChainsawGood: In the ''[[ComicBook/VenomEwingAndRamV Venom]]'' tie-in, Meridius mocks Bedlam for not using a bladed weapon to counter Codex/Venom's Necrosword katana. Bedlam manifests a chainsaw arm-blade, which he uses in the finale to rip and tear Limbo's demons to shreds.

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* ChainsawGood: In the ''[[ComicBook/VenomEwingAndRamV Venom]]'' ''ComicBook/{{Venom|2021}}'' tie-in, Meridius mocks Bedlam for not using a bladed weapon to counter Codex/Venom's Necrosword katana. Bedlam manifests a chainsaw arm-blade, which he uses in the finale to rip and tear Limbo's demons to shreds.



** In a prelude issue in ''[[ComicBook/VenomEwingAndRamV Venom]]'', Madelyne expresses camaraderie towards Eddie Brock for being both royalty and a single parent. This doesn't last, as she grows annoyed with Eddie's insistence on being taken to his son immediately, and resolves the issue by reverting him to his original mindset as a villain.

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** In a prelude issue in ''[[ComicBook/VenomEwingAndRamV Venom]]'', ''ComicBook/{{Venom|2021}}'', Madelyne expresses camaraderie towards Eddie Brock for being both royalty and a single parent. This doesn't last, as she grows annoyed with Eddie's insistence on being taken to his son immediately, and resolves the issue by reverting him to his original mindset as a villain.
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* DeathIsCheap: Spider-Man wearily assures a little girl that since the X-Men are technically responsible for the Limbo invasion that they'll likely resurrect all the civilian casualties after it's over, including the Santa she saw get gruesomely eaten.
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* DeathIsCheap: Spider-Man wearily assures a little girl that since the X-Men are technically responsible for the Limbo invasion that they'll likely resurrect all the civilian casualties after it's over, including the Santa she saw get gruesomely eaten.
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** At the climax of the X-Men tie-in, Jean loses all her patience with Madelyn and starts physically hitting her when words and psychic exchanges fail.

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** At the climax of the X-Men tie-in, Jean loses all her patience with Madelyn Madelyne and starts physically hitting her when words and psychic exchanges fail.
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* UselessProtagonist: Peter spends most of the event putting out fires and rescuing people with Jean and [[spoiler:Madelyne]] being the major figures who stop Chasm's invasion.
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* ThereAreNoTherapists: Averted. Havok tells Madelyne that he's taking counseling to work with his issues and tries to connect with her with what he's learned from his sessions. Pryor just [[KickTheDog snidely looks down on him for seeing a therapist.]]
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** At the climax of the X-Men tie-in, Jean loses all her patience with Madelyn and starts physically hitting her when words and psychic exchanges fail.
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* IronicHell: The forces of Limbo try to do this to Peter, Jameson, and Robbie by trapping them in a hellish parody of the Daily Bugle, but their tempers and general ineptitude (the demons have to play the roles of surrounding civilians) make it resemble coercive role-play than anything else.
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* KickTheDog: Chasm throws Kamala into Limbo both because he wants to practice the spell to do so and due to the fact that she's tangentially associated with Peter.
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* EverythingIsRacist: Arjun, Kamala's lab partner at Oscorp, jokes about how they were probably only paired together because they're both brown. A couple of pages later, after getting romantically rebuffed by Kamala (still weary from her past relationships), he awkwardly asks if she would've said yes if he was Muslim rather than Hindu.
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* DistractedByTheSexy: Peter's first good look at the scantily clad Madelyne leaves him near speechless, allowing her to get close and snatch up the defeated Venom.
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* VillainDecay: A bizarre inverted example. Spider-Man's battle with a brainwashed Venom only lasts half of an issue due to Eddie being rendered into an odd composite of his earlier villainous and anti-hero personas, both of whom Peter has had a lot of experience with fighting.
-->''"What's gotten into you? You sound -- Don't take this the wrong way -- dumber."''
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* ClonesArePeopleToo: Peter makes his stance on clones clear at the start of the saga, explaining that he considers them different people than the ones they were derived from, but they're still real and deserving of a chance to have happy, peaceful lives. This lies in stark contrast to Ben's view of the matter, in that there can only be one true instance of a person or that the instance is obligated to share its existence with their clone(s).
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** ''[[ComicBook/NormanOsborn Gold Goblin]]'' #2-3

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** ''[[ComicBook/NormanOsborn Gold Goblin]]'' ''ComicBook/GoldGoblin'' #2-3
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* LighterAndSofter: While the original ''Inferno'' was played dead serious nearly all throughout with a few scattered bits of BlackComedy included, almost all of ''Dark Web'' plays mostly for laughs and snarking.
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Events occurring in ''Dark Web'' also lead into a limited-series, ''ComicBook/HallowsEve'', the ''ComicBook/ExtremeVenomverse'' event later in 2023, and Madelyn's own ''ComicBook/DarkXMen2023''.

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Events occurring in ''Dark Web'' also lead into a the limited-series, ''ComicBook/HallowsEve'', the ''ComicBook/ExtremeVenomverse'' event later in 2023, 2023 and Madelyn's then Madelyne's own ''ComicBook/DarkXMen2023''.
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* GrandFinale: On a Meta level, the ''Venom'' tie-ins will mark the end of Bryan Hitch's tenure as the book's interior artist, a position he's held since the beginning of the Al Ewing/Ram V era. Following ''Dark Web'', Hitch will step back solely as cover artist while being succeeded by CAFU.
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** ''[[Characters/MarvelComicsMaryJaneWatson Mary Jane]] & ComicBook/BlackCat'' #1-2

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** ''[[Characters/MarvelComicsMaryJaneWatson Mary Jane]] & ComicBook/BlackCat'' ''ComicBook/MaryJaneAndBlackCat'' #1-2
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Events occurring in ''Dark Web'' also lead into a limited-series, ''ComicBook/HallowsEve'', and the ''ComicBook/ExtremeVenomverse'' event, later in 2023.

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Events occurring in ''Dark Web'' also lead into a limited-series, ''ComicBook/HallowsEve'', and the ''ComicBook/ExtremeVenomverse'' event, event later in 2023.
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* SdrawkcabName: A demon saved by Spider-Man is inspired to take up the mantle and fight with him, empowered by another demon to have similar powers. He takes to calling himself Rek-Rap, and asks people to guess where he got the name from. Spider-Man says he knows and he's [[SecretIdentity not happy about it.]]
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** In a prelude issue in ''[[ComicBook/VenomEwingAndRamV Venom]]'', Madelyne expresses camaraderie towards Eddie Brock for being both royalty and a single parent. This doesn't last, as she grows annoyed with Eddie's insistence on being taken to his son immediately, and resolves the issue by reverting him to his Lethal Protector mindset.

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** In a prelude issue in ''[[ComicBook/VenomEwingAndRamV Venom]]'', Madelyne expresses camaraderie towards Eddie Brock for being both royalty and a single parent. This doesn't last, as she grows annoyed with Eddie's insistence on being taken to his son immediately, and resolves the issue by reverting him to his Lethal Protector mindset.original mindset as a villain.

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