History ComicBook / BeforeWatchmen

28th May '16 12:04:04 AM PopCan0
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* AdaptationExpansion: Due to its nature exploring periods in the original merely glimpsed and not fully witnessed, many plot threads hinted at in ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' are brought out more fully for this series.



* AlternateHistory: [[InUniverse In-Universe]], when Jon sees many different realities from several decisions. Some include [[WhoShotJFK John F. Kennedy surviving his assassination attempt]], to the Comedian with the Vietnamese woman and her newborn child, whose lives he spared.

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* AlternateHistory: [[InUniverse In-Universe]], when Jon sees many different realities from several decisions. Some include [[WhoShotJFK John F. Kennedy surviving his assassination attempt]], JFK's assassin either being a successful Comedian or a thwarted Lee Harvey Oswald, to the Comedian with the Vietnamese woman and her newborn child, whose lives he spared.spared.
* ForWantOfANail: In the first issue, Dr. Manhattan creates a universe where Jon Osterman never got turned into Dr. Manhattan. The second issue continues from there to Jon's and Janey's wedding, where a small decision (going to the left or right door) decides whether the Comedian or Ozymandias becomes part of the Cuban Missile Crisis.



* AdaptationExpansion: Due to its nature exploring a period in the original merely glimpsed and not fully witnessed, many plot threads hinted at in ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' are brought out more fully for this series.



* EvenEvilHasStandards: [[spoiler: Rolf Mueler]] was kicked out of the Nazi party because he was too sick for them. Given what he did to Blanche, it's easy to see why.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: [[spoiler: Rolf Mueler]] Muller]] was kicked out of the Nazi party because he was too sick for them. Given what he did to Blanche, it's easy to see why.them.



* GoryDiscretionShot: [[spoiler:The abducted child's corpse at the end of Minutemen #2. We see Hollis reeling from the foul smell before they even enter the room, and then horrified reactions' on the three's faces. Byron is just standing there stock-still, [[TearsOfFear tears running down his face.]] At the same time the panels keep cutting away to HJ assaulting Captain Metropolis, showing little more than their faces and hands.]] Ultimately [[spoiler: Ursula's death was this]]. With the perpetrator breaking in advancing on [[spoiler: Gretchen and Ursula sleeping, and a final panel of her trying to defend Gretchen and holding out her hand in defense.]] A panel before only showed a limp bloody hand, [[spoiler: and the word "Lesbian whores" written in their blood.]] [[spoiler: The Liquidator also dies this way, with Sally hunting him down after he murdered Ursula.]] Ironically, his body was discovered with a limp bloody hand as well.

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* GoryDiscretionShot: [[spoiler:The [[spoiler: The abducted child's corpse at the end of Minutemen #2. We see Hollis reeling from the foul smell before they even enter the room, and then horrified reactions' on the three's faces. Byron is just standing there stock-still, [[TearsOfFear tears running down his face.]] At the same time the panels keep cutting away to HJ assaulting Captain Metropolis, showing little more than their faces and hands.]] Ultimately [[spoiler: Ursula's death was this]]. With the perpetrator breaking in advancing on [[spoiler: Gretchen and Ursula sleeping, and a final panel of her trying to defend Gretchen and holding out her hand in defense.]] A panel before only showed a limp bloody hand, [[spoiler: and the word "Lesbian whores" written in their blood.]] [[spoiler: The Liquidator also dies this way, with Sally hunting him down after he murdered Ursula.]] Ironically, his body was discovered with a limp bloody hand as well.



* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Inverted; While Edgar had been depicted as plain-looking, his ''Before Watchmen'' comic shows him as a borderline {{Gonk}}.



* [[spoiler:DownerEnding: Poor Edgar... He was DoomedByCanon.]]

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* [[spoiler:DownerEnding: Poor Edgar... He was DoomedByCanon.]]DownerEnding: Moloch #2 ends with [[DoomedByCanon his death]] by Adrian.



* KidsAreCruel: During Edgar's childhood.
* LetThemDieHappy: [[spoiler:At the end, is told by Adrian everything he wished to accomplish with his plan and how he would do it. Edgar is happy to help the world in his own way, to participate in "the ultimate magic trick".]]

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* KidsAreCruel: During Edgar's childhood.
childhood, Edgar included.
* LetThemDieHappy: [[spoiler:At [[spoiler: At the end, is told by Adrian everything he wished to accomplish with his plan and how he would do it. Edgar is happy to help the world in his own way, to participate in "the ultimate magic trick".]]



* StartOfDarkness



* DrunkOnTheDarkSide: Rawhead after [[spoiler: putting Rorscharc's mask]].

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* DrunkOnTheDarkSide: Rawhead after [[spoiler: putting Rorscharc's Rorscharch's mask]].



* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: In issue #2, we meet a band that, for legal reasons, we'll call... uh... [[Music/TheBeatles The NotBeatles.]]
* OffModel: When Laurie kicks the hatchet wielding mook with the spades suit painted on his face, his hair turns from blue to heart's red, his spade's painting disappears, and so does his beard.

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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: In issue #2, we meet a band that, for legal reasons, we'll call... uh... [[Music/TheBeatles The NotBeatles.]]
that resembles Music/TheBeatles.
* OffModel: When Laurie kicks the hatchet wielding mook {{Mook}} with the spades suit painted on his face, his hair turns from blue to heart's red, his spade's painting disappears, and so does his beard.
27th May '16 10:56:21 PM PopCan0
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* CapeSnag: Well, it was inevitable.

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* CapeSnag: Well, it was inevitable.PlayedForDrama, as [[spoiler: the end of the comic shows Bill's last moments and thoughts during the events that lead up to his death.]]



* DueToTheDead: [[spoiler: Bill's funeral, where the remaining Minutemen attend, in costume, and Metropolis delivers the eulogy. The sequence of events established in Minutemen means that Sally got dressed up again after quitting to attend his funeral.]] Afterwards, they see a bunch of kids dressing up [[spoiler: as Bill]] and reenacting the faithful scene, but with a more superheroic ImmuneToBullets flair. Byron wonders if he'll be forgotten, Nelson laughs it off and shows him the kids, saying that he'll still be remembered.
* [[spoiler:TheHeroDies: Bill was DoomedByCanon.]]

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* DueToTheDead: [[spoiler: Bill's funeral, where the remaining Minutemen attend, in costume, and Metropolis delivers the eulogy. The sequence of events established in Minutemen means that Sally got dressed up again after quitting to attend his funeral.]] Afterwards, they see a bunch of kids dressing up [[spoiler: as Bill]] Bill and reenacting the faithful scene, but with a more superheroic ImmuneToBullets flair. Byron wonders if he'll be forgotten, Nelson laughs it off and shows him the kids, saying that he'll still be remembered.
remembered.]]
* [[spoiler:TheHeroDies: TheHeroDies: Bill was DoomedByCanon.DoomedByCanon. [[spoiler: Bill's funeral is featured at the end of the story.]]



* TookALevelInBadass: Despite being an actor, and afraid of getting shot, Bill follows Nite-Owl and Hooded Justice into one of the banks he supported to fight the robbers. After that, he compares his experiences to playing football in college, and how the adrenaline got him going.

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* TookALevelInBadass: Despite being an actor, and afraid of getting shot, Bill follows Nite-Owl Nite Owl and Hooded Justice into one of the banks he supported to fight the robbers. After that, he compares his experiences to playing football in college, and how the adrenaline got him going.
18th Feb '16 11:37:34 PM Dannykat
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: [[spoiler: Rolf Mueler]] was kicked out of the Nazis because he was too sick for them, and judging from the Comedian's dialogue, and his actions against Blanche and Hooded Justice, it's easy to see why.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: [[spoiler: Rolf Mueler]] was kicked out of the Nazis Nazi party because he was too sick for them, and judging from the Comedian's dialogue, and his actions against Blanche and Hooded Justice, them. Given what he did to Blanche, it's easy to see why.



* RedHerring: The child killer's identity was implied to be the man from Ursula's past. [[spoiler: Hooded Justice was the prime suspect; he wore a hood and similar colors. Numerous hints were dropped that he at least had some connection to the case. The true suspect being Rolf Mueler (who was the man from her past), with Eddie pointing out the FridgeLogic of him not being Justice, the age difference.]]

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* RedHerring: The child killer's identity was implied to be the man from Ursula's past. [[spoiler: Hooded Justice was the prime suspect; he wore a hood and similar colors. Numerous hints were dropped that he at least had some connection to the case. The true suspect culprit being Rolf Mueler (who was the man from her past), with Eddie pointing out the FridgeLogic of him not being Justice, given the age difference.]]
16th Sep '15 3:33:24 PM Berrenta
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* [[ObligatoryBondageSong Obligatory Kinky Cover]]: One of the alternate covers for ''Ozymandias #2'' has Adrian being somewhat suggestively strangled by a strange woman in costume.

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* [[ObligatoryBondageSong Obligatory Kinky Cover]]: ObligatoryBondageSong: One of the alternate covers for ''Ozymandias #2'' has Adrian being somewhat suggestively strangled by a strange woman in costume.



* RoadTripEpisode

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* RoadTripEpisodeRoadTripPlot
7th Aug '15 10:09:01 AM JCCyC
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Does [[spoiler:Greg]] get back from [[spoiler:Vietnam]] alive? We never know.
13th Jul '15 11:23:06 AM beack7
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* AdaptationalHeroism: [[BaseBreaker Controversially,]] [[UnfortunateImplications The Comedian.]]

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* AdaptationalHeroism: [[BaseBreaker Controversially,]] [[UnfortunateImplications The Comedian.]]



* CallForward: Pretty much the reason (aesthetically) that this series exists.

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* CallForward: Pretty much the The reason (aesthetically) that this series exists.



* TheAlcoholic: As in the original, Byron Lewis. Some of the reasons are brought to the fore -- the sheer terrifying difficulty of doing what he did day in and day out (basically jump off of tall buildings, in the course of an already stressful career, and hope it worked, every single time) eventually broke him.

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* TheAlcoholic: As in the original, Byron Lewis. Some of the reasons are brought to the fore -- the sheer terrifying difficulty of doing what he did day in and day out (basically jump (jump off of tall buildings, in the course of an already stressful career, and hope it worked, every single time) eventually broke him.



* YouCantFightFate: That's the feeling Edgar got when coming face to face with Dr. Manhattan, who could do the amazing feats of power Edgar only could pretend to do with magic. He saw no possible way to outrun or defeat him, ending up in jail. The further conflicts he had with Ozymandias and The Comedian were pretty much pointless as long as Manhattan existed.

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* YouCantFightFate: That's the feeling Edgar got when coming face to face with Dr. Manhattan, who could do the amazing feats of power Edgar only could pretend to do with magic. He saw no possible way to outrun or defeat him, ending up in jail. The further conflicts he had with Ozymandias and The Comedian were pretty much pointless as long as Manhattan existed.



* DomesticAbuse: [[spoiler: ''Dan's'' dad is abusive, in pretty much a direct reversal of the fanon sensibility that Adrian's parents were abusive Nazis and Dan's were ineffectual but well-meaning.]]

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* DomesticAbuse: [[spoiler: ''Dan's'' dad is abusive, in pretty much a direct reversal of the fanon sensibility that Adrian's parents were abusive Nazis and Dan's were ineffectual but well-meaning.]]
13th Jul '15 11:16:50 AM Derpyhooves1
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* AdaptationalHeroism: [[BaseBreaker Controversially,]] [[UnfortunateImplications The Comedian.]]


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* AdaptationalVillainy: [[spoiler:Hooded Justice and Captain Metropolis]]. Especially [[spoiler:Hooded Justice]].
12th May '15 6:47:58 AM Lythande
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* FeelingTheirAge: Hollis starts to feel old in the 1950s, having endured the murder of his close friend Silhouette, a HUAC investigation, and the "Friend of the Children" investigation, [[spoiler: which resulted in Nite Owl killing Hooded Justice after being led to believe that he'd been kidnapping and murdering kids]]. After Dr. Manhattan and Ozymandias start appearing, he decides that he's really not needed anymore.
5th Apr '15 12:35:49 AM DrPsyche
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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Ursula is better-looking and more feminine than her portrayal in the original Watchmen.

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* AdaptationalAttractiveness: Darwin's stylistic art makes everyone look quite good. Ursula is better-looking and more feminine than her portrayal in the original Watchmen.Watchmen, Hooded Justice is drawn more super heroic with IrislessEyeMaskOfMystery getting rid of his odd looking eyes sticking out from the hood. Young Eddie's downright handsome in the more cartoonish style.
27th Jan '15 10:06:41 PM Anicomicgeek
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* CreatorBacklash: Halfway. Dave Gibbons just wished that the artists and writers involved pay tribute to their work, and appreciated DCComics' [[MilestoneCelebration reasons]] for the initiative. However, Creator/AlanMoore, still having his vendetta against DCComics, called it "completely shameless", and said it would turn it into just another serial that is just like anything else, instead of the thing that he and Gibbons made as a limited series and they thought was special and complete.



* RecycledScript: The Crimebusters scene in particular.
* [[SequelGap Prequel Gap]]: Around 25 years after the last issue of Watchmen was initially published.
* ScheduleSlip: Several of the series have been delayed for unspecified reasons.



* RecycledScript: Subverted when the Crimebusters scene is presented in a retconned version that doesn't correlate with what it was like in the original ''Watchmen''.



* RecycledScript:
** Several passages where Adrian describes his past are taken verbatim from the original ''Watchmen.'' The first issue is about 50% recycled, in fact.
** The Crimebusters scene is repeated word for word, but with new art.
** The part where Moloch meets Adrian after being released from prison has Adrian greeting him saying the exact same thing as in the ''Moloch'' series, though Adrian's posture isn't the same, and his car is a different model.
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