History CombatPragmatist / Literature

24th Aug '17 12:47:23 PM Michael
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* ''Literature/TheDarkswordTrilogy'' features an unusual example. Prince Garald is emphatically not one of these, but when he takes the time to teach Joram how to fence, he makes it very clear that he doesn't have time to teach him how to reliably win a fair fight.
-->'''Garald:''' Honour is a fine thing, but the dead have little use of it.
22nd Aug '17 7:18:44 PM PaulA
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* This shows up all the time in Creator/MercedesLackey's work, especially her ''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'' novels. Fighting instructors, as opposed to fencing masters, constantly emphasise to their students that there's no such thing as "unfair" or "dishonourable" tactics in a real fight. Fencing matches and the like are a different thing entirely.

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* This shows up all the time in Creator/MercedesLackey's work, especially her works:
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''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'' novels. Fighting novels, fighting instructors, as opposed to fencing masters, constantly emphasise to their students that there's no such thing as "unfair" or "dishonourable" tactics in a real fight. Fencing matches and the like are a different thing entirely.
23rd Jul '17 3:05:26 AM Piterpicher
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* In ''Spellbound,'' the second book of ''TheGrimnoirChronicles,'' Sharpes, a heavyweight boxer decides to have fun beating up Heinrich, a currently-de-powered wizard. Unfortunately for him, Heinreich had grown up in a zombie-filled city and is used to fighting above his weight class. Heinrich opens with a series of groin shots and builds from there.

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* In ''Spellbound,'' the second book of ''TheGrimnoirChronicles,'' ''Literature/TheGrimnoirChronicles,'' Sharpes, a heavyweight boxer decides to have fun beating up Heinrich, a currently-de-powered wizard. Unfortunately for him, Heinreich had grown up in a zombie-filled city and is used to fighting above his weight class. Heinrich opens with a series of groin shots and builds from there.
12th May '17 3:23:06 AM Rand86
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*** Not that Rawne is a paragon of chivalry to begin with...
8th May '17 4:25:47 AM MattII
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** Sergeant Jackram and Lieutenant Blouse from ''Discworld/MonstrousRegiment'' both have aspects of this, namely Jackram is prepared to go to any method to win a hand-to-hand fight, while Blouse is quite capable of using every advantage to further his strategic aims. To a lesser degree this also applies respectively to Tonker and Polly, and a little to Maladict too.
8th May '17 4:11:35 AM MattII
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** Also applies to Vimes' [[BattleButler butler]] Willikins, who is arguably Vimes' equal, less artful, but less constrained in his choices of weapons and methods.
11th Apr '17 7:36:21 AM Rand86
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*** Vimes describes the idea of "bottle covey" to Sybil in one of the earlier books and she remarks that it [[SarcasmMode in no way, shape, or form]] describes a [[NotSoDifferent certain someone she knows intimately.]]
8th Apr '17 1:08:57 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Redwall}}'': Matthias has to be this, being a thirteen-year-old up against an experienced warlord. Cluny chases Matthias up into the belltower and demands he come down in exchange for the release of a hostage. Matthias does come down, [[spoiler:but first lets the ''bell'' down, directly on top of his opponent.]]

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* ''{{Redwall}}'': ''{{Literature/Redwall}}'': Matthias has to be this, being a thirteen-year-old up against an experienced warlord. Cluny chases Matthias up into the belltower and demands he come down in exchange for the release of a hostage. Matthias does come down, [[spoiler:but first lets the ''bell'' down, directly on top of his opponent.]]
13th Mar '17 11:11:45 AM Discar
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---* ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'': Kaladin is very firm that it is a soldier's job to kill the enemy however possible, and makes no apologies for it. However, he does muse that he has been known to leave weakened enemies alive, and avoids attacking the unarmed. He decides he's just [[HypocriticalHumor not good at following his own rules]].
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25th Feb '17 1:29:28 PM nombretomado
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* In the DaleBrown novel ''Executive Intent'', the Chinese are this in their attack on Mogadishu. Some guy firing on their troops from a building? Most forces would try to storm the building and get into risky room clearing. Screw that. They level the whole damn building. Doesn't matter if you're a militiaman/pirate/gangster or really just a civilian - you make the mistake of gathering in a group that could be remotely construed as a regrouping squad, they'll mow you all down and let Chairman Mao sort out the dead.

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* In the DaleBrown Creator/DaleBrown novel ''Executive Intent'', the Chinese are this in their attack on Mogadishu. Some guy firing on their troops from a building? Most forces would try to storm the building and get into risky room clearing. Screw that. They level the whole damn building. Doesn't matter if you're a militiaman/pirate/gangster or really just a civilian - you make the mistake of gathering in a group that could be remotely construed as a regrouping squad, they'll mow you all down and let Chairman Mao sort out the dead.
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