History CombatPragmatist / Literature

11th Apr '17 7:36:21 AM Rand86
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*** Vimes describes the idea of "bottle covey" to Sybil in one of the earlier books and she remarks that it [[SarcasmMode in no way, shape, or form]] describes a [[NotSoDifferent certain someone she knows intimately.]]
8th Apr '17 1:08:57 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Redwall}}'': Matthias has to be this, being a thirteen-year-old up against an experienced warlord. Cluny chases Matthias up into the belltower and demands he come down in exchange for the release of a hostage. Matthias does come down, [[spoiler:but first lets the ''bell'' down, directly on top of his opponent.]]

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* ''{{Redwall}}'': ''{{Literature/Redwall}}'': Matthias has to be this, being a thirteen-year-old up against an experienced warlord. Cluny chases Matthias up into the belltower and demands he come down in exchange for the release of a hostage. Matthias does come down, [[spoiler:but first lets the ''bell'' down, directly on top of his opponent.]]
13th Mar '17 11:11:45 AM Discar
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---* ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'': Kaladin is very firm that it is a soldier's job to kill the enemy however possible, and makes no apologies for it. However, he does muse that he has been known to leave weakened enemies alive, and avoids attacking the unarmed. He decides he's just [[HypocriticalHumor not good at following his own rules]].
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25th Feb '17 1:29:28 PM nombretomado
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* In the DaleBrown novel ''Executive Intent'', the Chinese are this in their attack on Mogadishu. Some guy firing on their troops from a building? Most forces would try to storm the building and get into risky room clearing. Screw that. They level the whole damn building. Doesn't matter if you're a militiaman/pirate/gangster or really just a civilian - you make the mistake of gathering in a group that could be remotely construed as a regrouping squad, they'll mow you all down and let Chairman Mao sort out the dead.

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* In the DaleBrown Creator/DaleBrown novel ''Executive Intent'', the Chinese are this in their attack on Mogadishu. Some guy firing on their troops from a building? Most forces would try to storm the building and get into risky room clearing. Screw that. They level the whole damn building. Doesn't matter if you're a militiaman/pirate/gangster or really just a civilian - you make the mistake of gathering in a group that could be remotely construed as a regrouping squad, they'll mow you all down and let Chairman Mao sort out the dead.
10th Dec '16 5:38:02 PM Rebu
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* In ''Literature/TheIronTeeth'' Blacknail the goblin has absolutely no sense of fair play whatsoever. He is constantly ambushing his opponents or attacking them from behind. He also attacks unarmed men with a sword several times as well. It never even occurs to him to fight fair.

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* In ''Literature/TheIronTeeth'' ''Literature/TheIronTeeth'', Blacknail the goblin has absolutely no sense of fair play whatsoever. He is constantly ambushing his opponents or attacking them from behind. He also attacks unarmed men with a sword several times as well. It never even occurs to him to fight fair.
** During one fight, he faces off against a rival assassin who urges him to fight with honor. Blacknail decides that's a fine weakness to exploit. [[spoiler:Turns out the rival didn't mean a word, and he says he wouldn't be a good assassin if he played
fair.]]
5th Dec '16 2:49:29 PM MarsJenkar
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** Molly isn't a magical brawler who can throw around [[PlayingWithFire massive amounts of fire]] the way Harry is, so she instead uses every horrible sneaky trick you could expect from a MasterOfIllusion. [[DoppelgangerSpin Appearing in about twelve places at once]], blinding enemies, tricking them into shooting each other, creating fake obstacles to corral them into where she wants them to go...

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** Molly isn't a magical brawler who can throw around [[PlayingWithFire massive amounts of fire]] the way Harry is, so she instead uses every horrible sneaky trick you could expect from a MasterOfIllusion. [[DoppelgangerSpin Appearing in about twelve places at once]], blinding enemies, tricking them into shooting each other, creating fake obstacles to corral them into where she wants them to go...go, the whole bit. And if you pair her with a wizard who has ''actually'' deadly magic at his/her disposal, well, the opposition needs to be more careful, lest an "illusory" wall of flames proves to be the real deal....
4th Dec '16 11:46:35 AM nombretomado
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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's "Beyond the Black River", ConanTheBarbarian, with no shame, [[FriendOrFoe deceives a Pict into coming close enough to be killed]].

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* In Creator/RobertEHoward's "Beyond the Black River", ConanTheBarbarian, "Literature/BeyondTheBlackRiver", Literature/ConanTheBarbarian, with no shame, [[FriendOrFoe deceives a Pict into coming close enough to be killed]].
22nd Nov '16 6:12:58 PM PaulA
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* The Dorsai in Creator/GordonRDickson's ''ChildeCycle''.
** The Dorsai do believe in thinking outside the box. However, they would never, ever, violate the "Mercenaries Code" (which is something like [[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar the Geneva Conventions]]). When one person asked one of the Dorsai commanders if he had ever shot prisoners, the commander got quite threatening about the idea that he would ever do such a thing.

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* The Dorsai in Creator/GordonRDickson's ''ChildeCycle''.
** The Dorsai do
''Literature/ChildeCycle'' believe in thinking outside the box. However, they would never, ever, violate the "Mercenaries Code" (which is something like [[UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar the Geneva Conventions]]). When one person asked one of the Dorsai commanders if he had ever shot prisoners, the commander got quite threatening about the idea that he would ever do such a thing.
17th Nov '16 10:45:45 PM jtgibson
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----* Almost every moral message to be gleaned from David Weber's [[Literature/HonorHarrington "Honorverse"]] is about the excessiveness of combat pragmatism, including the brutality of pragmatism absent any morality. The unarmed combat style, ''coup de vitesse'' ("blow of speed", in the same sense as ''coup d'etat''), is about maximal damage and lethality in minimal time. One of many moments is the method by which a regime protects itself by strafing rioting civilians with miniguns that fire hundreds of rounds per second, dropping "snowflake" cluster bombs, and conducting precision orbit-to-surface kinetic strikes against buildings filled with sympathisers in the most populous city on the planet's surface. Even the main protagonist for the first twelve novels is well trained as a methodical military killer, impersonally as a starship commander as well as personally with sidearms or bare-handed brutality, saving any feelings of dread, guilt, and regret for afterward.
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9th Nov '16 6:57:53 PM nombretomado
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* In JohnCWright's ''Literature/WarOfTheDreaming'', we have the HandicappedBadass Peter Waylock, who is very much the Unfettered when it comes to fighting:

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* In JohnCWright's Creator/JohnCWright's ''Literature/WarOfTheDreaming'', we have the HandicappedBadass Peter Waylock, who is very much the Unfettered when it comes to fighting:
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