History CombatPragmatist / Literature

20th Nov '17 2:57:38 AM batty3108
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*** Vimes' opinion on Fantailler seems to have softened slightly by the time of ''Discworld/{{Snuff}}'', at least to the extent where he's prepared to offer the use of the rules when challenged to a duel. Alternately, he's offering to go easy on the poor fellow by only hitting him in certain defined places. When they're refused, he brings this trope out ''in spades''. "Should've accepted Fantailler", indeed.

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*** Vimes' opinion on Fantailler seems to have softened slightly by the time of ''Discworld/{{Snuff}}'', at least to the extent where he's prepared to offer the use of the rules when challenged to a duel. Alternately, he's But this is simply one of many ploys used to try and scare his challenger, treating the challenge as a deadly serious endeavour, which means offering to go easy on the poor fellow by only hitting him in certain defined places. When they're refused, he brings this trope out ''in spades''. "Should've accepted Fantailler", indeed. man the chance to choose the rules of the duel.
15th Nov '17 8:38:46 AM Valkyr
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* Nobody actually fights cleanly in ''Literature/HereticalEdge'' but protagonist Felicity Chambers sticks out for just how dirty she'll fight despite a relative lack of experience. One of her most common moves is throwing telekinetically controlled sand in her opponent's face, and she's utterly ruthless about confirming kills. Stun a regenerating werewolf? Shove a knife into his brain and twist to make sure he stays down. [[spoiler: Evil angel commando Charmeine]] gets launched out a window and the multi-story drop isn't a sure kill? Jump after her, impale her through the chest on the way down, and then split her head in half vertically to make absolutely sure the enemy dies.
13th Nov '17 7:38:06 PM PaulA
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* Creator/JamesPatterson's ''Literature/AlexCross'' novel ''Kiss the Girls'' has a woman who takes self-defense classes, with the GroinAttack recommended. [[spoiler:When Casanova abducts her, she kicks him in the nuts. Unfortunately, Casanova was wearing protection. Because he had been watching her go to her self-defense classes.]]

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* Creator/JamesPatterson's ''Literature/AlexCross'' novel ''Kiss the Girls'' ''Literature/KissTheGirls'' has a woman who takes self-defense classes, with the GroinAttack recommended. [[spoiler:When Casanova abducts her, she kicks him in the nuts. Unfortunately, Casanova was wearing protection. Because he had been watching her go to her self-defense classes.]]
14th Oct '17 12:23:10 AM Piterpicher
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* The Third Rule of the bodyguard school called Matador Villa in Steve Perry's ''[[MatadorSeries Matador]]'' series is: "There are no rules in a fight involving death."

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* The Third Rule of the bodyguard school called Matador Villa in Steve Perry's ''[[MatadorSeries ''[[Literature/MatadorSeries Matador]]'' series is: "There are no rules in a fight involving death."
24th Aug '17 12:47:23 PM Michael
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* ''Literature/TheDarkswordTrilogy'' features an unusual example. Prince Garald is emphatically not one of these, but when he takes the time to teach Joram how to fence, he makes it very clear that he doesn't have time to teach him how to reliably win a fair fight.
-->'''Garald:''' Honour is a fine thing, but the dead have little use of it.
22nd Aug '17 7:18:44 PM PaulA
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* This shows up all the time in Creator/MercedesLackey's work, especially her ''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'' novels. Fighting instructors, as opposed to fencing masters, constantly emphasise to their students that there's no such thing as "unfair" or "dishonourable" tactics in a real fight. Fencing matches and the like are a different thing entirely.

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* This shows up all the time in Creator/MercedesLackey's work, especially her works:
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''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'' novels. Fighting novels, fighting instructors, as opposed to fencing masters, constantly emphasise to their students that there's no such thing as "unfair" or "dishonourable" tactics in a real fight. Fencing matches and the like are a different thing entirely.
23rd Jul '17 3:05:26 AM Piterpicher
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* In ''Spellbound,'' the second book of ''TheGrimnoirChronicles,'' Sharpes, a heavyweight boxer decides to have fun beating up Heinrich, a currently-de-powered wizard. Unfortunately for him, Heinreich had grown up in a zombie-filled city and is used to fighting above his weight class. Heinrich opens with a series of groin shots and builds from there.

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* In ''Spellbound,'' the second book of ''TheGrimnoirChronicles,'' ''Literature/TheGrimnoirChronicles,'' Sharpes, a heavyweight boxer decides to have fun beating up Heinrich, a currently-de-powered wizard. Unfortunately for him, Heinreich had grown up in a zombie-filled city and is used to fighting above his weight class. Heinrich opens with a series of groin shots and builds from there.
12th May '17 3:23:06 AM Rand86
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*** Not that Rawne is a paragon of chivalry to begin with...
8th May '17 4:25:47 AM MattII
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** Sergeant Jackram and Lieutenant Blouse from ''Discworld/MonstrousRegiment'' both have aspects of this, namely Jackram is prepared to go to any method to win a hand-to-hand fight, while Blouse is quite capable of using every advantage to further his strategic aims. To a lesser degree this also applies respectively to Tonker and Polly, and a little to Maladict too.
8th May '17 4:11:35 AM MattII
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** Also applies to Vimes' [[BattleButler butler]] Willikins, who is arguably Vimes' equal, less artful, but less constrained in his choices of weapons and methods.
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