History ChuckCunninghamSyndrome / VideoGames

15th Apr '16 2:57:06 AM Hylarn
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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'''s transition from PC-98 to Windows is either a ContinuityReboot or the single largest case of this ever. Only four characters ultimately survived the changeover out of forty or so, losing fairly major characters like [[ArchEnemy Mima]] and [[TalkingAnimal Genji]], though they're still canonally considered the mentors to Marisa and Reimu, respectively.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'''s transition from PC-98 to Windows is either a ContinuityReboot or the single largest case of this ever. Only four characters ultimately survived the changeover out of forty or so, losing fairly major characters like [[ArchEnemy Mima]] and [[TalkingAnimal Genji]], though they're still canonally considered the mentors to Marisa and Reimu, respectively.so
14th Apr '16 1:54:05 AM bwburke94
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* While Mario and VideoGame/DonkeyKong have both ascended to stardom since their debut game, Pauline, the girl they fought each other for in the first place faded into obscurity as Princess Peach took over her role as DistressedDamsel in the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' games. She did reappear in ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong94'', only to disappear for another decade until ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2'', in which Pauline's relationship status to Mario was demoted from "girlfriend" to "friend". However, she does appear (instead of Peach) in the ''VideoGame/MarioVsDonkeyKong'' games ''March of The Minis'', ''Minis March Again'', and ''Mini-Land Mayhem''.
** Donkey Kong Junior hasn't appeared since ''Game & Watch Gallery Advance''.
*** Though, this depends on which continuity you subscribe to. According to Rare, the Donkey Kong seen from ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry'' on forth ''is'' DK Jr., while SelfDemonstrating/CrankyKong is the previous DK. ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountryReturns'' retcons it, however, to current DK being Cranky's grandson, meaning that DK Jr. really has been MIA ever since.
** Stanley, from ''Donkey Kong 3'' also vanished from the series appearing only in some cameos like ''VideoGame/WarioWare'' or ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''. It's unclear, but it's said he's also the protagonist from the Game & Watch ''Greenhouse'' and it's also rumored that he is Mario's cousin.
** [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Wart]] similarly disappeared.
*** This one actually makes sense. Wart was nothing but Mario's dream... Except [[FridgeLogic so were several enemies]] who [[OrWasItADream made appearances in later games.]]
*** This could, however, be explained as Mario dreaming about creatures that actually exist, but which players had simply not yet seen.

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* While Mario [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] and VideoGame/DonkeyKong have both ascended to stardom since their debut game, their supporting cast hasn't been as lucky.
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Pauline, the girl they fought each other for in the first place place, faded into obscurity as Princess Peach took over her role as DistressedDamsel in the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' games.DistressedDamsel. She did reappear in ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong94'', only to disappear for another decade until ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2'', in which Pauline's relationship status to Mario was demoted from "girlfriend" to "friend". However, she does appear (instead of Peach) in the ''VideoGame/MarioVsDonkeyKong'' games ''March of The Minis'', ''Minis March Again'', and ''Mini-Land Mayhem''.
** Donkey Kong Junior (as a separate character from the "modern" Donkey Kong; [[ContinuitySnarl it's complicated]]) hasn't appeared since ''Game & Watch Gallery Advance''.
*** Though, this depends on which continuity you subscribe to. According to Rare, the Donkey Kong seen from ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountry'' on forth ''is'' DK Jr., while SelfDemonstrating/CrankyKong is the previous DK. ''VideoGame/DonkeyKongCountryReturns'' retcons it, however, to current DK being Cranky's grandson, meaning that DK Jr. really has been MIA ever since.
** Stanley, Stanley from ''Donkey Kong 3'' also vanished from the series appearing only in some cameos like ''VideoGame/WarioWare'' or ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''. It's unclear, but it's said he's also the protagonist from the Game & Watch ''Greenhouse'' and it's also rumored that he is Mario's cousin.
** [[VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2 Wart]] similarly disappeared.
*** This one actually makes sense. Wart was nothing but Mario's dream... Except [[FridgeLogic so were several enemies]] who [[OrWasItADream made appearances in later games.]]
*** This could, however, be explained as Mario dreaming about creatures that actually exist, but which players had simply not yet seen.
disappeared, though it's worth noting his only appearance is AllJustADream.



** Chronologically, [[VideoGame/YoshisIsland Shy Guys appeared as enemies for Yoshi]] before the events of ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2''.
** Poochy had an entire level designed around him in ''VideoGame/YoshisIsland'', but was absent from new titles after ''VideoGame/YoshisStory'' and before ''VideoGame/YoshisNewIsland''. He comes back in ''VideoGame/YoshisWoollyWorld'' finally.
** Plum, Charlie, Sonny, Harry, and Maple, human characters who are playable in ''VideoGame/MarioGolf'' for the Nintendo 64. They have not made a single appearance in any game since, unless you count Plum's cameos in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee'' and ''Brawl'' as a trophy and sticker respectively. Not to mention that that's ''five out of fourteen'' playable characters.
** Toadette also seems to be a short-lived character, first appearing in ''VideoGame/MarioKart: Double Dash!!'', then making periodic appearances in Mario games until ''Super Mario Sluggers'' nearly five years later, then never appearing again. After another five years, she reappeared in ''Mario Kart 8'' and ''Mario Party 10'', then got a co-starring role in ''Treasure Tracker'' and a prominent supporting role in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam''.
** Bowser's Koopalings have a long and convoluted history of being PutOnABus. They first appeared as recurring antagonists in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', ''Super Mario World'', and ''Yoshi's Safari'', then vanished without mention for over a decade before reappearing in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'', then vanished again, then reappeared a second time in ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'' (with their original relationship to Bowser having been {{retcon}}ned away) and have been making fairly regular appearances since.
** All the original characters from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'' like Geno or Mallow [[ExiledFromContinuity are property of Square-Enix, therefore they simply vanished]] from all the subsequent Mario games except from a brief cameo of Geno in ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga Superstar Saga]]''.

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** Chronologically, [[VideoGame/YoshisIsland Shy Guys appeared as enemies for Yoshi]] before the events of ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros2''.
** Poochy had an entire level designed around him in ''VideoGame/YoshisIsland'', but was absent from new titles after ''VideoGame/YoshisStory'' and before ''VideoGame/YoshisNewIsland''. He comes back in ''VideoGame/YoshisWoollyWorld'' finally.
''VideoGame/YoshisNewIsland''.
** Plum, Charlie, Sonny, Harry, and Maple, human characters who are playable in ''VideoGame/MarioGolf'' for the Nintendo 64.UsefulNotes/{{Nintendo 64}}. They have not made a single appearance in any game since, unless you count Plum's cameos in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Melee'' and ''Brawl'' as a trophy and sticker respectively. Not to mention that that's ''five out of fourteen'' playable characters.
** Toadette also seems to be a short-lived character, first appearing in ''VideoGame/MarioKart: Double Dash!!'', ''VideoGame/MarioKartDoubleDash'', then making periodic appearances in Mario games until ''Super Mario Sluggers'' nearly five years later, then never appearing again. After another five years, she reappeared in ''Mario Kart 8'' and ''Mario Party 10'', then got a co-starring role in ''Treasure Tracker'' and a prominent supporting role in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam''.
again until ''VideoGame/MarioKart8''.
** Bowser's The Koopalings have a long and convoluted history of being PutOnABus. They first appeared as recurring antagonists in ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', ''Super Mario World'', and ''Yoshi's Safari'', then vanished without mention for over a decade before reappearing in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'', then vanished again, then reappeared a second time in ''VideoGame/NewSuperMarioBrosWii'' (with their original relationship to Bowser having been {{retcon}}ned away) and have been making fairly regular appearances since.
** All the original characters from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'' like Geno or Mallow [[ExiledFromContinuity are property of Square-Enix, of]] Creator/SquareEnix, therefore they simply vanished]] vanished from all the subsequent Mario games except from a brief cameo of Geno in ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga Superstar Saga]]''.
23rd Mar '16 1:41:55 AM KatanaCat
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* While Mario and VideoGame/DonkeyKong have both ascended to stardom since their debut game, Pauline, the girl they fought each other for the first place faded into obscurity as Princess Peach took over her role as DistressedDamsel in the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' games. She did reappear in ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong94'', only to disappear for another decade until ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2'', in which Pauline's relationship status to Mario was demoted from "girlfriend" to "friend". However, she does appear (instead of Peach) in the ''VideoGame/MarioVsDonkeyKong'' games ''March of The Minis'', ''Minis March Again'', and ''Mini-Land Mayhem''.

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* While Mario and VideoGame/DonkeyKong have both ascended to stardom since their debut game, Pauline, the girl they fought each other for in the first place faded into obscurity as Princess Peach took over her role as DistressedDamsel in the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' games. She did reappear in ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong94'', only to disappear for another decade until ''Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2'', in which Pauline's relationship status to Mario was demoted from "girlfriend" to "friend". However, she does appear (instead of Peach) in the ''VideoGame/MarioVsDonkeyKong'' games ''March of The Minis'', ''Minis March Again'', and ''Mini-Land Mayhem''.



** Several of these characters got [[TheCameo cameos]] on "Wanted" and "Missing" posters in ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations''. Mighty and Ray are listed as [[LampshadeHanging "Missing since 1993"]] (even through Mighty was last seen in 1995's ''Knuckles Chaotix'').

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** Several of these characters got [[TheCameo cameos]] on "Wanted" and "Missing" posters in ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations''. Mighty and Ray are listed as [[LampshadeHanging "Missing since 1993"]] (even through Mighty was last seen in 1995's ''Knuckles Chaotix'').Chaotix'', though this may have something to do with said game [[not being canon]]).



** As of June 2012, the infamous Big the Cat [[http://youtu.be/l_fL0NRDYjw?t=2h2s has also been retired from the series]]. He was already being slowly phased out of the series by that point anyway--his only noteworthy appearances after 2003's ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes'' being in ''VideoGame/SonicChronicles'' and the first ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing]]'' (and even then, he was removed from the roster in the sequel).

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** As of June 2012, the infamous Big the Cat [[http://youtu.be/l_fL0NRDYjw?t=2h2s has also been retired from the series]]. He was already being slowly phased out of the series by that point anyway--his anyway -- his only noteworthy appearances after 2003's ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes'' being in ''VideoGame/SonicChronicles'' and the first ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing]]'' (and even then, he was removed from the roster in the sequel).



** Meta Knight is strangely absent from every Kirby game since Kirby's Return To Dream Land, despite being one of the most recurring characters in the series otherwise. Though it could be somewhat averted in that the Mirror Dimension version of Meta Knight is an extra boss in Kirby Triple Deluxe.

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** Meta Knight is strangely absent from every Kirby game since Kirby's Return To Dream Land, despite being one of the most recurring characters in the series otherwise. Though it could be somewhat averted in that the Mirror Dimension version counterpart of Meta Knight is an extra boss in Kirby Triple Deluxe.
31st Jan '16 7:42:23 PM DKW001
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* It has been three games since [[AssassinsCreed Assassin's Creed 3]] (five if you count the two spinoffs of Black Flag), and we still don't have the slightest idea what became of Connor after the end of the American Revolution. The last we see of him is a melancholy postscript with Davy Crockett, and he's barely mentioned at all in either Rogue or Unity. As he's one of [=UbiSoft's=] least popular characters and there are no plans to develop him any further, it's likely we'll never know.

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* It has been three games since The last we see of Connor in [[AssassinsCreed Assassin's Creed 3]] (five if you count the two spinoffs of Black Flag), and we still don't have the slightest idea what became of Connor after the end of the American Revolution. The last we see of him is a melancholy postscript with Davy Crockett, Crockett. None of the games since have ever explained what became of him since. (One of them hints that he had a turbulent marriage and he's barely mentioned at all in either Rogue or Unity. suffered a brutal death, but there are no specifics.) As he's one of [=UbiSoft's=] least popular characters and there are no plans to develop him any further, it's likely we'll never know.
31st Jan '16 6:03:44 PM Quanyails
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*** Barry is now one of the playable characters, with his own story, in [[VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations2 Revelations 2]]. Rebecca, however... [[spoiler: [[FridgeHorror may have been the first victim of Nemesis, since Brad had to know that it was targetting S.T.A.R.S. members]].]]

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*** Barry is now one of the playable characters, with his own story, in [[VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations2 ''[[VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations2 Revelations 2]].2]]''. Rebecca, however... [[spoiler: [[FridgeHorror may have been the first victim of Nemesis, since Brad had to know that it was targetting S.T.A.R.S. members]].]]
31st Jan '16 10:46:50 AM Octorok103
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** Poochy had an entire level designed around him in ''VideoGame/YoshisIsland'', but was absent from new titles after ''VideoGame/YoshisStory'' and before ''VideoGame/YoshisNewIsland''. He comes back in ''VideoGame/YoshisWoolyWorld'' finally.

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** Poochy had an entire level designed around him in ''VideoGame/YoshisIsland'', but was absent from new titles after ''VideoGame/YoshisStory'' and before ''VideoGame/YoshisNewIsland''. He comes back in ''VideoGame/YoshisWoolyWorld'' ''VideoGame/YoshisWoollyWorld'' finally.



** Toadette also seems to be a short-lived character, first appearing in ''VideoGame/MarioKart: Double Dash!!'', then making periodic appearances in Mario games until ''Super Mario Sluggers'' nearly five years later, then never appearing again. After another five years, she reappeared in ''Mario Kart 8'' and ''Mario Party 10'', then got a co-starring role in ''Treasure Tracker''.

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** Toadette also seems to be a short-lived character, first appearing in ''VideoGame/MarioKart: Double Dash!!'', then making periodic appearances in Mario games until ''Super Mario Sluggers'' nearly five years later, then never appearing again. After another five years, she reappeared in ''Mario Kart 8'' and ''Mario Party 10'', then got a co-starring role in ''Treasure Tracker''.Tracker'' and a prominent supporting role in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam''.
15th Jan '16 12:51:10 AM kennydarmawan13
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* An interesting variation happens in PapaLouieArcade game Burgeria with Robby and Allan. They were given explanation for their disappearance in that game only to return the next game with a new design to explain it.
10th Jan '16 11:38:53 PM erforce
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*** One of the most unusual cases within the EX series was a character called Hayate, a young Japanese swordsman. He appeared as a newcomer in ''EX 2'', but was mysteriously removed from the updated version of the game. The PS1 port returned him to the roster as a secret character, but after that, he never appeared again (and was the only character from ''EX 2'' to not return for ''EX 3''). There was [[UrbanLegendOfZelda a persistent rumour]] that he had been killed off between the two games, but no, he simply vanished entirely without a trace.

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*** One of the most unusual cases within the EX series was a character called Hayate, a young Japanese swordsman. He appeared as a newcomer in ''EX 2'', but was mysteriously removed from the updated version of the game. The PS1 [=PS1=] port returned him to the roster as a secret character, but after that, he never appeared again (and was the only character from ''EX 2'' to not return for ''EX 3''). There was [[UrbanLegendOfZelda a persistent rumour]] that he had been killed off between the two games, but no, he simply vanished entirely without a trace.
7th Jan '16 11:30:16 PM Kadorhal
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* Every surviving character from ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGear2'' that didn't make the transition into the ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' series was forgotten by default: Ellen Madnar, Diane, Jennifer, Holly White, [[strike:Yozef Norden]] Johan Jacobsen, and George Kasler.
** Subverted with Meryl, who vanished without explanation, except for an implied reference an optional conversation in [=MGS2=] in which Snake says he's had enough of tomboys. Players were left to assume that the ending of [=MGS1=] in which she died was canon, until she showed up in [=MGS4=].
** Surprisingly enough, this is Averted with Dr. Pettrovich Madnar in [=MGS4=]. While he doesn't make an actual appearance, it's explained that he saved Raiden's life behind the scenes, even though he hadn't been mentioned at all in the last games, and him being the original creator of the first Metal Gear had long since been retconned.

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* Every surviving character from ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear|1}}'' and ''VideoGame/MetalGear2'' ''VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake'' that didn't make the transition into the ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' series was forgotten by default: Ellen Madnar, Diane, Jennifer, Holly White, [[strike:Yozef Norden]] Johan Jacobsen, and George Kasler.
** Subverted with Meryl, who vanished without explanation, except for an implied reference an optional conversation in [=MGS2=] ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'' in which Snake says he's had enough of tomboys. Players were left to assume that the ending of [=MGS1=] ''[=MGS1=]'' in which she died was canon, until she showed up in [=MGS4=].
''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''.
** Surprisingly enough, this is Averted with Dr. Pettrovich Madnar in [=MGS4=]. ''[=MGS4=]''. While he doesn't make an actual appearance, it's explained that he saved Raiden's life behind the scenes, even though he hadn't been mentioned at all in the last games, previous games (nor is it mentioned that Snake killed him by firing remote-control rockets into his back to hit Madnar, but that's probably for the best), and him being the original creator of the first Metal Gear had long since been retconned.
7th Dec '15 4:45:20 PM Hossmeister
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* Continuing from that last example, ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'' brings back some characters from Phoenix's original trilogy and Apollo's game, but plenty of characters are still no-shows: Maya has yet to return, Gumshoe is still nowhere to be seen, Ema is inexplicably absent despite her role in ''Apollo Justice'' (which chronologically takes place the year before ''Dual Destinies''), and even Payne's gone in favor of his newly-introduced younger brother.

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* Continuing from that last example, ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'' brings back some characters from Phoenix's original trilogy the VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightTrilogy and Apollo's game, but plenty of characters are still no-shows: Maya has yet to return, Gumshoe is still nowhere to be seen, Ema is inexplicably absent despite her role in ''Apollo Justice'' (which chronologically takes place the year before ''Dual Destinies''), and even Payne's gone in favor of his newly-introduced younger brother.
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