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26th Jan '16 7:02:34 AM Godnat
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*** In the case of the Orcs, this is more a case of CharacterRerailment. Thrall's peaceful nature and desire to get along with the Alliance isn't a very Orcish value, and Garrosh (at least in the WotLK and Cataclysm eras) is a much better example of the average Orc and their values than Thrall was.
12th Dec '15 7:32:20 PM Oggudrai
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** Or Vol'jin's elite rank of Shadow hunters, the Siame-Quashi, who only appeared during the Rise of the Zandalari patch and who can still be found within the revamped Zul'gurub/Zul'aman raids-turned-dungeons.

** Or Vol'jin's elite rank of Shadow hunters, the Siame-Quashi, who only appeared during the Rise of the Zandalari patch and who can still be found within the revamped Zul'gurub/Zul'aman raids-turned-dungeons.
12th Dec '15 7:31:33 PM Oggudrai
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[[/folder]][[/folder]] ** Or Vol'jin's elite rank of Shadow hunters, the Siame-Quashi, who only appeared during the Rise of the Zandalari patch and who can still be found within the revamped Zul'gurub/Zul'aman raids-turned-dungeons.
30th Sep '15 5:27:19 AM kraas
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** Goblins: Crafty
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** Goblins: CraftyCrafty, and possibly the UglyCute counterpart to the [[FiveRaces Gnomes']] Cute.
16th Jul '15 5:50:16 PM TessHM
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*** In the case of the Orcs, this is more a case of CharacterRerailment. Thrall's peaceful nature and desire to get along with the Alliance isn't a very Orcish value, and Garrosh (at least in the WotLK and Cataclysm eras) is a much better example of the average Orc and their values than Thrall was.
14th Jun '15 2:27:12 PM DarthWalrus
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9th May '15 1:07:55 AM Monsund
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!!Dark Hordes:
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!!Dark Hordes: !!Other Hordes and History:
9th Mar '15 12:09:49 PM StormKnight
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* TheAlliance: The Horde of Kalimdor under the leaderships of Thrall, Garrosh (until it became the "True Horde") and [[spoiler: Vol'jin]] actually fits this just as well as, er, [[Characters/WarcraftTheAlliance the Alliance]], though there seems to be more infighting, and two races, the Forsaken and the Blood Elves, originally joined merely for survival and not for ideological reasons. Also, [[Characters/WarcraftTheAlliance the Alliance]] seems to be more of a confederation of different groups, while the Warchief is firmly in charge of the entire Horde, with the racial leaders having control of their individual territories.
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* TheAlliance: The Horde of Kalimdor under the leaderships of Thrall, Garrosh (until it became the "True Horde") and [[spoiler: Vol'jin]] Vol'jin actually fits this just as well as, er, [[Characters/WarcraftTheAlliance the Alliance]], though there seems to be more infighting, and two races, the Forsaken and the Blood Elves, originally joined merely for survival and not for ideological reasons. Also, [[Characters/WarcraftTheAlliance the Alliance]] seems to be more of a confederation of different groups, while the Warchief is firmly in charge of the entire Horde, with the racial leaders having control of their individual territories.

* TrueCompanions: This was always a theme between the Orcs, Trolls, and Tauren, all of which banded together and formed close bonds to help survive in a hostile world. This is best exemplified by the [[http://classic.battle.net/war3/images/orc/spells/spiritlink.gif icon]] for Spirit Link ability in Warcraft III. Goblins(particularly Gazlowe), and the ogres are sometimes included as well. How the other races fare with this trope is unclear, [[spoiler: but considering the new Warchief is a strong advocate of this mentality as seen by the quote at the top, they may pick up on it.]] Ironically the expansion to point this out as in the above quote, was the one many fans feel broke the theme, due to the Flanderization of the orcs.
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* TrueCompanions: This was always a theme between the Orcs, Trolls, and Tauren, all of which banded together and formed close bonds to help survive in a hostile world. This is best exemplified by the [[http://classic.battle.net/war3/images/orc/spells/spiritlink.gif icon]] for Spirit Link ability in Warcraft III. Goblins(particularly Gazlowe), and the ogres are sometimes included as well. How the other races fare with this trope is unclear, [[spoiler: but considering the new Warchief is a strong advocate of this mentality as seen by the quote at the top, they may pick up on it.]] it. Ironically the expansion to point this out as in the above quote, was the one many fans feel broke the theme, due to the Flanderization of the orcs.

* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: So who's the Orc racial leader after the Siege of Orgrimmar? [[spoiler:A few tweets have confirmed that it isn't Thrall, and that it might be either Saurfang or Eitrigg, but no one knows.]]
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: So who's the Orc racial leader after the Siege of Orgrimmar? [[spoiler:A A few tweets have confirmed that it isn't Thrall, and that it might be either Saurfang or Eitrigg, but no one knows.]]
3rd Feb '15 9:23:10 AM kraas
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** FrequentlyBrokenUnbreakableVow: Subverted, sort of. On the surface, it would appear the Blood Oath is often broken by Horde members leaving to join neutral organizations, and more prominently, the Darkspear Rebellion. But WordOfGod revealed it's not just an Oath to the Warchief, but an Oath to the Horde itself and the ideals it represents. For example, when the assassin struck Vol'jin, he no longer recognized Garrosh as his Warchief but still considered himself part of the family that is the Horde, so the Oath remained unbroken. Also subverted in that Horde and Alliance members who join neutral factions still align themselves with that home faction. Example, Thrall becoming the leader of the Earthen Ring.
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** FrequentlyBrokenUnbreakableVow: Subverted, sort of. On the surface, it would appear the Blood Oath is often broken by Horde members leaving to join neutral organizations, and more prominently, the Darkspear Rebellion. But WordOfGod revealed it's not just an Oath to the Warchief, but an Oath to the Horde itself and the ideals it represents. For example, when the assassin struck Vol'jin, he no longer recognized Garrosh as his Warchief but still considered himself part of the family that is the Horde, so the Oath remained unbroken. Also subverted in that Horde and Alliance members who join neutral factions still align themselves with that home faction. Example, Thrall becoming became the leader of the Earthen Ring.Ring but he is still a member of the Horde, and he joins in their campaign on the alternate Draenor in ''Warlords of Draenor''.
17th Jan '15 7:51:34 PM Chortles
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* SuddenSequelHeelSyndrome: Much to players' dismay, over time the entire faction has been periodically given the VillainBall and the IdiotBall, now with two of the races having a WellIntentionedExtremist racial leader and many of the formerly good races like Orcs being treated far more negatively. This can get especially confusing when it comes to the Orcs, as they went from good to evil with no overt explanation offered within the game beyond a leadership change. The only races that currently have stayed undeniably good are the Tauren, who have always been good -- although under Baine this sometimes veered into GoodIsDumb -- the Darkspear Trolls, who are the diamond in the rough compared to all other Trolls, and the Huojin Pandaren... which didn't really do anything of note anyway!
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* SuddenSequelHeelSyndrome: Much to players' dismay, over time the entire faction has been periodically given the VillainBall and the IdiotBall, now with two of the races having a WellIntentionedExtremist racial leader and many of the formerly good races like Orcs being treated far more negatively. This can get especially confusing when it comes to the Orcs, as they went from good to evil with no overt explanation offered within the game beyond a leadership change.change[[note]]though High Overlord Saurfang's private letter to the player in ''Wrath of the Lich King'' warned that the Orcs were already forgetting the lessons of the past during the Northrend campaign... which was essentially what put Garrosh in the running for Warchief[[/note]]. The only races that currently have stayed undeniably good are the Tauren, who have always been good -- although under Baine this sometimes veered into GoodIsDumb -- the Darkspear Trolls, who are the diamond in the rough compared to all other Trolls, and the Huojin Pandaren... which didn't really do anything of note anyway!
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