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* TroubledTeen: As a result of his traumatic past, Zeke is noticeably more emotionally troubled than Mylene or the Kiplings, all of whom grew up in relatively stable families.
* TroubledTeen: While all the teenage characters party hard, Regina is second only to Dizzee in terms of hard drug use, was well-acquainted with Les Inferno and Fat Annie's gang even before the start of the show, has casual sexual relationships with older men (one of whom is an abusive gangster and the other of whom is married), and is able to instantly recognize and manage a heroin overdose when she sees one. It's implied that her home life is unstable[[note]]She mentions that the reason she knew how to treat Jackie's overdose is because she repeatedly witnessed her mother doing the same thing for her dad.[[/note]] and she was forced to grow up too fast as a result.
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* ThirdPersonPerson: Downplayed. She frequently refers to herself in the third person, but not all the time.
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* InterclassFriendship: Forms a downplayed one with Claudia Gunns. The two of them get along well at work, but don't otherwise spend time together.
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Herbert Gunns' teenage daughter who works alongside Zeke at his internship.
* AmbiguouslyBi: Has a thing for Ezekiel, but also says that [[{{Music/Blondie}} Debbie Harry]] is so hot that she "almost made out with her." However, given Claudia's personality and the fact that it's the 70's, it's unclear if she's being serious or merely trying to shock Zeke.
* TheGadfly: Commented on by Herbert, who says that Claudia "enjoys the shock value of her little quips."
* InterclassFriendship: Downplayed with her and Zeke, who get along at their internship but don't hang out outside of work.
* RuleAbidingRebel: She loves punk music and acts like a rebel, but the actual extent of her rebellion is limited to making sarcastic digs at wealthy high society.
* SpoiledSweet: Downplayed. She definitely has some bratty and self-centered tendencies, but she's also the only wealthy white character who is sincerely nice to Zeke and doesn't treat him as a TokenMinority.
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* BadassMustache: Tough, streetwise, and sports a goatee.
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* NotSoDifferent: [[DownplayedTrope It's never commented on]], but the show makes it clear that despite their antagonistic relationship, Dizzee and Winston actually have the most in common out of any of the Kiplings. Both are [[CloudCuckooLander Cloud Cuckoo Landers]] with a penchant for rambling monologues and an obsession with space and aliens. Right before he [[spoiler: leaves home to live with Thor]], Dizzee even echoes a line originally said by Winston:
-->[To Boo-Boo] Be careful on your surfboard. It's windy in the galaxy tonight.
-->[To Boo-Boo] Be careful on your surfboard. It's windy in the galaxy tonight.
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* SiblingYinYang: With his brother, Francisco. Only it turns out that, once upon a time, they [[NotSoDifferent were more alike]].
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* SiblingYinYang: With his brother, Francisco. Only it turns out that, once upon a time, they [[NotSoDifferent were more alike]].alike.
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* BadassMustacheBadassMustache: Tough, streetwise, and sports a goatee.
* MysteriousPast: Shaolin's life prior to Annie taking him in is a total mystery. The only hint the audience or other characters get is when he tells Zeke that the fire in his apartment brought back some bad memories.
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* VagueAge: He's somewhere in his twenties or late teens, but it's impossible to pin down his exact age due to his MysteriousPast, few social relationships, and significant emotional problems. Sometimes he babies the rest of the crew as though he's significantly older than them, while other times he acts just as childish as they do.
* VagueAge: He's somewhere in his twenties or late teens, but it's impossible to pin down his exact age due to his MysteriousPast, few social relationships, and significant emotional problems. Sometimes he babies the rest of the crew as though he's significantly older than them, while other times he acts just as childish as they do.
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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Unlike his brothers (whose real names are Ronald and Marcus), Boo-Boo's name is unknown. [[spoiler: Winston reveals his first name in episode 2.]]
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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Unlike his brothers (whose real names are Ronald and Marcus), Boo-Boo's name is unknown. [[spoiler: Winston unknown in Part 1. Part 2 reveals his first name in episode 2.]]
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* NotSoDifferent: [[DownplayedTrope It's never commented on]], but the show makes it clear that despite their antagonistic relationship, Dizzee and Winston actually have the most in common out of any of the Kiplings. Both are [[CloudCuckooLander Cloud Cuckoo Landers]] with a penchant for rambling monologues and an obsession with space and aliens. Right before he [[spoiler: leaves home to live with Thor]], Dizzee even echoes a line originally said by Winston:
-->[To Boo-Boo] Be careful on your surfboard. It's windy in the galaxy tonight.
* RebelliousSpirit: [[ZigZaggedTrope Zig-Zagged]]. He does violate social norms and considers himself a rebel, but other than his graffiti, he doesn't consciously go out of his way to break the rules. However, the show also suggests that rebellion is less about simple disrespect for authority and more about [[BeYourself being free and living your truth]] in the face of opposition, and Dizzee's eccentricity, self-expression through art, and bisexuality all fit neatly within that theme. And of course there's this infamous exchange:
-->'''Boo-Boo:''' I thought you was a rebel.\\
'''Dizzee:''' I am a rebel.\\
'''Ra-Ra:''' But you can't be a rebel if you don't rebel.\\
'''Dizzee:''' [[PrecisionFStrike Fuck]].
* TheUnFavourite: Winston makes quite a few disparaging comments at Dizzee's expense, and when he and Adele suspect that the boys are dealing drugs, they instantly assume that Dizzee's the ringleader. [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]] and [[JustifiedTrope Justified]], as Winston and Adele are clearly GoodParents and their problems with Dizzee are all related to his long history of lawbreaking.
* VagueAge: While Boo-Boo is the youngest of the Kiplings (being 14 in Part 1 and 15 in Part 2) and Ra-Ra is the same age as Zeke and Mylene (around 16 in Part 1 and 17 in Part 2), Dizzee's age is less well-defined. He's definitely a teenager, as he's shown attending high school in the first episode, but it's unclear if he's still in school by the time of Part 2.
-->[To Boo-Boo] Be careful on your surfboard. It's windy in the galaxy tonight.
* RebelliousSpirit: [[ZigZaggedTrope Zig-Zagged]]. He does violate social norms and considers himself a rebel, but other than his graffiti, he doesn't consciously go out of his way to break the rules. However, the show also suggests that rebellion is less about simple disrespect for authority and more about [[BeYourself being free and living your truth]] in the face of opposition, and Dizzee's eccentricity, self-expression through art, and bisexuality all fit neatly within that theme. And of course there's this infamous exchange:
-->'''Boo-Boo:''' I thought you was a rebel.\\
'''Dizzee:''' I am a rebel.\\
'''Ra-Ra:''' But you can't be a rebel if you don't rebel.\\
'''Dizzee:''' [[PrecisionFStrike Fuck]].
* TheUnFavourite: Winston makes quite a few disparaging comments at Dizzee's expense, and when he and Adele suspect that the boys are dealing drugs, they instantly assume that Dizzee's the ringleader. [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]] and [[JustifiedTrope Justified]], as Winston and Adele are clearly GoodParents and their problems with Dizzee are all related to his long history of lawbreaking.
* VagueAge: While Boo-Boo is the youngest of the Kiplings (being 14 in Part 1 and 15 in Part 2) and Ra-Ra is the same age as Zeke and Mylene (around 16 in Part 1 and 17 in Part 2), Dizzee's age is less well-defined. He's definitely a teenager, as he's shown attending high school in the first episode, but it's unclear if he's still in school by the time of Part 2.
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* AssholeVictimAssholeVictim: He's DrivenToSuicide after learning that his entire marriage has been a lie, but given that he's been an [[DomesticAbuse abusive]], [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocritical]], [[CoattailRidingRelative self-serving]] {{Jerkass}} for the entire show, it's hard to feel sorry for him.
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* BadSamaritan: He may not be Margaret White, but his religious views is completely warped.
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* BadSamaritan: He may not be Margaret White, but his religious views is are completely warped.
* CoattailRidingRelative: Leverages Mylene's fame and success in order to take her money and improve his own status in the church.
* DomesticAbuse: He beats both Mylene and Lydia.
* DomesticAbuse: He beats both Mylene and Lydia.
* FantasyForbiddingFather: The only thing Mylene wants in life is to be a disco singer, so naturally Ramon ''violently'' refuses to let her sing anything but church music.
* SpicyLatina: Regina is really open about enjoying casual sex and is ready to fight with any man who disrespects her or her friends. And she's always wearing the tightest, most revealing clothing in the group.
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* SpicyLatina: Regina is really open about enjoying casual sex and is ready to fight with any man who disrespects her or her friends. And she's always wearing VagueAge: Like Dizzee, it's not clear where Yolanda fits into the tightest, most revealing clothing in the group.
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* BerserkButton: Drug dealing, thanks to the suffering that Zeke's father brought on the family by dealing. When she suspects that Zeke is selling drugs, the normally even-tempered Wanda slams him up against a wall, shouts in his face, and ultimately throws him out of her apartment.
* FantasyForbiddingFather: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]], as they don't outright forbid Zeke from pursuing his music, but they make it clear they'd prefer he focus on something more practical--first on finding a job, then, after Ms. Green informs them of Zeke's academic potential, on working hard at school and his internship so he can go to college.
* FantasyForbiddingFather: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]], as they don't outright forbid Zeke from pursuing his music, but they make it clear they'd prefer he focus on something more practical--first on finding a job, then, after Ms. Green informs them of Zeke's academic potential, on working hard at school and his internship so he can go to college.
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* DontMakeMeTakeMyBeltOff: Subverted. When Ra-Ra confesses that it's his fault the salon got trashed, he asks if Winston's going to beat him with the belt or the switch, but Adele puts a stop to it in favor of a peaceful solution.
* FantasyForbiddingFather: Downplayed. They let Ra-Ra, Dizzee, and Boo-Boo do their music as long as they stay out of trouble, but the two of them view it as an amateur hobby and refuse to believe that the boys could be making money off of it. Given that they fully support Yolanda's music career, their skepticism of hip-hop is likely the result of ItWillNeverCatchOn rather than lack of faith in their sons' talent.
* GoodParents: They clearly love, support, and get along with all their kids--in fact, the Kiplings may well be the most stable and happy family in the show. [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]] in that even they have their limits; Dizzee's history of graffiti, drug use, and arrests have strained his relationship with them, and they're furious when they suspect that the boys are selling drugs.
* FantasyForbiddingFather: Downplayed. They let Ra-Ra, Dizzee, and Boo-Boo do their music as long as they stay out of trouble, but the two of them view it as an amateur hobby and refuse to believe that the boys could be making money off of it. Given that they fully support Yolanda's music career, their skepticism of hip-hop is likely the result of ItWillNeverCatchOn rather than lack of faith in their sons' talent.
* GoodParents: They clearly love, support, and get along with all their kids--in fact, the Kiplings may well be the most stable and happy family in the show. [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]] in that even they have their limits; Dizzee's history of graffiti, drug use, and arrests have strained his relationship with them, and they're furious when they suspect that the boys are selling drugs.
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* SatelliteLoveInterest: He only appears in scenes involving Dizzee and we don't know much about him outside of their relationship.
* VagueAge: Like Shao, it's hard to narrow his age down beyond "twenties or late teens". He's in a relationship with Dizzee (who's somewhere between 15 and 18 when they meet), but is also heavily implied to have dated Carlo Pakoussa (who's in his twenties or thirties).
* VagueAge: Like Shao, it's hard to narrow his age down beyond "twenties or late teens". He's in a relationship with Dizzee (who's somewhere between 15 and 18 when they meet), but is also heavily implied to have dated Carlo Pakoussa (who's in his twenties or thirties).
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* DaddysGirl: Not to her father, Ramon, but to her uncle, Francisco. He will go to any lengths to get Mylene what she wants, and Mylene knows that all she has to do is cry and beg her tío to help her.
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* DaddysGirl: Not to her father, Ramon, but to her uncle, Francisco. He will go to any lengths to get Mylene what she wants, and Mylene knows that all she has to do is cry and beg her tío to help her. [[spoiler: Seeing as he's her actual father, this makes a lot more sense.]]
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* BiTheWay: WordOfGay confirms his identity to be this, with a side of SingleTargetSexuality for Thor.
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* BiTheWay: Kisses the girl who was hanging out with him and Dizzee at the gay bar, then also kisses Dizzee.
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* MostAnnoyingSound: That ''voice''. He's where the New York squawk comes to die.
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* TheQueenpin: She's the head of a major drug dealing operation.
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* AmbiguouslyGay: There's a ''lot'' of subtext implying that he's in love with Ezekiel. Several characters also directly suggest this at multiple points.
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* AmbiguouslyGay: There's a ''lot'' of subtext implying that he's in love with Ezekiel. Several characters also directly suggest this at multiple points. His shockingly supportive and empathetic reaction to the InternalReveal about Dizzee and Thor's relationship also more generally implies that he's not straight:
-->'''Shao:''' Dizz. You know there's a reason I go by Shaolin Fantastic, right?\\
'''Dizzee:''' Because you're a superhero?\\
'''Shao:''' Because people don't need to know everything about me. Don't worry. I got you, my alien brother.
-->'''Shao:''' Dizz. You know there's a reason I go by Shaolin Fantastic, right?\\
'''Dizzee:''' Because you're a superhero?\\
'''Shao:''' Because people don't need to know everything about me. Don't worry. I got you, my alien brother.
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* SingleTargetSexuality: He has carried a torch for Lydia ever since some time in the early 60s.they met.
* AnythingThatMoves: Jackie's sexuality is hard to pin down: he raped Leslie Lesgold when she was his assistant, can be seen feeling up and flirting with one of the Music/VillagePeople in one episode, and his hotel room in the final episode is filled with drag queens and gender-variant people. The best guess seems to be this trope.
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* SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll: A walking advertisement for how horrificly that trope plays out in reality. He's a thief, an addict, and a rapist...and a rape victim.
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* SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll: A walking advertisement for how horrificly horrifically that trope plays out in reality. He's a thief, an addict, and a rapist...and a rape victim.
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--> I go out. I have dates. But I go to bed alone. I always have. Since 1960.
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--> The girls in the club. I go out. I like to have dates. a nice girl on my arm, I like to have a dance every now and then, that's true. But I go to bed alone. I always have. Since 1960.
sleep alone, Lydia, every night since 1960. Make no mistake.
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* InformedAttractiveness: Zeke, Jackie, Francisco, and to a lesser (and creepier) extent, Cadillac all talk at length about Mylene's looks. Zeke even points her out as "the beautiful one" to Shao. It's not that she's not beautiful (she is), but that she's not above and beyond her also-gorgeous friends.
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* BadassBoast: From the Unity show in part 2:
--> ''Michelangelo ain't got shit on me''
--> ''Michelangelo ain't got shit on me''
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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Cadillac uses the insult "faggot" quite a bit, although this being 1977, it was only barely politically incorrect at the time.
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* SawStarWarsTwentySevenTimes: Fifty-seven, actually, as of part two. (Especially impressive, as [=VHS=] and [=DVD=] weren't around then, which meant he had to have seen it 57 times ''during the theatrical run''.)
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* ChildhoodFriendRomance: With Mylene.
* DramaQueen:
** ”My heart got shot out!"
** [[spoiler:"You smoked weed with someone else?"]]
** ”My heart got shot out!"
** [[spoiler:"You smoked weed with someone else?"]]
* SensitiveGuyAndManlyMan: The Sensitive Guy to Shao's Manly Man.
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* TheLoinsSleepTonight: [[spoiler:Mylene makes a offhanded, homophobic comment about how he can't get it up, which may imply his [[AmbiguouslyGay possible homosexuality]].]]
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!Clarence ”Cadillac"a.k.a. Cadillac
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* VillainousCrush: He's completely obsessed with Mylene.
