Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Characters / SaintsRowSaintsRow2Gangs

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: They have basically the same gang colors as Los Carnales, who also specialized in arms dealing, and Maero was apparently a close friend of Victor Rodriguez; both are {{The Brute}}s of their respective games. Brotherhood associate Donnie is a former member of the Westside Rollerz, who like the Brotherhood, loved automobiles.

to:

* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: They have basically the same gang colors as Los Carnales, who also specialized in arms dealing, and Maero was apparently a close friend of Victor Rodriguez; both are {{The Brute}}s of their respective games. Brotherhood associate Donnie is a former member of the Westside Rollerz, who who, like the Brotherhood, loved automobiles.

Changed: 18

Removed: 84

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Trope was cut/disambiguated due to cleanup


* DropTheHammer: Many of their members carry around sledgehammers as a melee weapon.



* WeaponSpecialization: The Brotherhood wield [[DropTheHammer sledgehammers]], GDHC .50 pistols, 12 Gauges, [=SK9=] Threats, K6 Krukovs, pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, and [=RPGs=].

to:

* WeaponSpecialization: The Brotherhood wield [[DropTheHammer sledgehammers]], sledgehammers, GDHC .50 pistols, 12 Gauges, [=SK9=] Threats, K6 Krukovs, pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, and [=RPGs=].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler:Johnny Gat beats him to a pulp and buries him alive, but after he indirectly had Aisha beheaded, you'd be hard-pressed to actually sympathize with him.]]

to:

* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler:Johnny Gat beats him to a pulp and buries him alive, but after he indirectly had Aisha beheaded, beheaded and then crashed her funeral to try and kill Gat, you'd be hard-pressed to actually sympathize with him.]]

Added: 920

Changed: 533

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BullyingADragon: Offering 20% to a reformed gang and acting condescending about it would make sense if it was any other gang leader besides the Boss. Maero knows who the Boss and Gat are, as they were Julius' top killers who took down the former gangs who held Stilwater with an iron fist, he should know better than to make an enemy out of the Saints. This becomes worse if the Sons of Samedi or the Ronin have been wiped out before meeting Maero, since the Boss will have publicly proven that they're capable of taking on another gang and winning.

to:

* BullyingADragon: BullyingADragon:
**
Offering 20% to a reformed gang and acting condescending about it would make sense if it was any other gang leader besides the Boss. Maero knows who the Boss and Gat are, as they were Julius' top killers who took down the former gangs who held Stilwater with an iron fist, he should know better than to make an enemy out of the Saints. This becomes worse if the Sons of Samedi or the Ronin have been wiped out before meeting Maero, since the Boss will have publicly proven that they're capable of taking on another gang and winning.winning.
** To a lesser extent trying to bully Dane Vogel. While it is impressive the first time Maero marches into Vogel's office and demands he uses Ultor lawyers to get his gang out of jail, Vogel is still the ruthless head of corporation and Maero's a jerk with a warehouse, so when Maero tries to intimidate Vogel again Vogel has him escorted out at gunpoint and takes his weapon shipment.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Black Sheep cleanup, removing misuse and ZCE


* BlackSheep: Of Shaundi's exes, see AmicableExes above for more detail.

Added: 1165

Changed: 411

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MightyGlacier: Their vehicle choices. In contrast to the Ronin, they're not likely to win racing competitions anytime soon, and they are't as flashy as the Sons of Samedi's classic lowriders, but they're massive and have plenty of stopping power behind them.

to:

* MightyGlacier: MightyGlacier:
**
Their vehicle choices. In contrast to the Ronin, they're not likely to win racing competitions anytime soon, and they are't as flashy as the Sons of Samedi's classic lowriders, but they're massive and have plenty of stopping power behind them.them.
** Their fighting style is this. Their punches has a slightly slow wind-up time (especially their charged attack), however, this fighting style deals more damage, and their takedowns can be devastating in the right hands.



* WrestlerInAllOfUs: Their takedowns consist of wrestling moves, such as a chokeslam, and backbreaker.



* ExtremityExtremist: When fighting in hand-to-hand, their fighting style consists almost entirely of kicks, they only use punches as part of their takedown.



[[folder: Jyunichi]]

to:

[[folder: Jyunichi]][[folder:Jyunichi]]



* BilingualBonus: Most of his first appearances in the game contain him speaking in Japanese. He has to be reminded to speak English by Shogo, who gets annoyed by this happening.

to:

* BilingualBonus: BilingualBonus:
**
Most of his first appearances in the game contain him speaking in Japanese. He has to be reminded to speak English by Shogo, who gets annoyed by this happening.happening.
** In ''IV'', his spoken dialogue are entirely in Japanese, without a single trail of English.



-->'''''[[NoIndoorVoice I CAN'T DIE YET!!!!! I HAVE FAR TOO MUCH KILLING TO DO!!!!!]]'''''
-->'''''SCREAM! SCREAM WHILE YOU STILL CAN!'''''

to:

-->'''''[[NoIndoorVoice I CAN'T DIE YET!!!!! I HAVE FAR TOO MUCH KILLING TO DO!!!!!]]'''''
-->'''''SCREAM!
DO!!!!!]]'''''\\
'''''SCREAM!
SCREAM WHILE YOU STILL CAN!'''''CAN!'''''
* DanceBattler: Their fighting style is inspired by Capoeira, albeit with the liberal use of hands as a combo move, and their takedowns often employ momentum to throw off their foes.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BullyingADragon: [[spoiler:Trying to kill The Boss and Johnny during Aisha's funeral was really not a good idea. Not only does it enrage both of them, it results in him being overpowered and then BuriedAlive. Had he just obeyed Gat's warning to enact his revenge another time, he would have likely survived a little longer.]]

to:

* BullyingADragon: [[spoiler:Trying to kill The Boss and Johnny during Aisha's funeral was really not a good idea. Not only does it enrage both of them, it results in him being overpowered and then BuriedAlive. Had he just obeyed Gat's warning to enact his revenge another time, he would have likely survived a little longer.longer (and gave him a much quicker death).]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
trope is about colorism IU


* WhiteGangBangers: Only about half the gang is Caribbean. The other half is white stoner college students. Even a majority of the gang's black members are [[ButNotTooBlack actually quite light-skinned]].

to:

* WhiteGangBangers: Only about half the gang is Caribbean. The other half is white stoner college students. Even a majority of the gang's black members are [[ButNotTooBlack actually quite light-skinned]].light-skinned.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: He is on the receiving end of a brutal one from a '''''[[TranquilFury very]]''''' furious Johnny Gat, and is then BuriedAlive afterwards.

to:

* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: He is on the receiving end of a brutal one from a '''''[[TranquilFury very]]''''' furious Johnny Gat, and is then BuriedAlive afterwards. [[BullyingADragon This is what happens when you attack a funeral held for]][[spoiler: Aisha, Gat's girlfriend]], ''[[TooDumbToLive especially when your gang is responsible for said death]]''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Dark Chick has been disambiguated


* DarkChick: She is mostly the money of the group and isn't a threat by herself.

Changed: 95

Removed: 102

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AintTooProudToBeg: After Gat locks him in the casket, Shogo begs him to just kill him instead of burying him alive. Gat doesn't listen.

to:

* AintTooProudToBeg: After Gat locks him in the casket, Shogo He begs him Johnny and The Boss to just kill him painlessly instead of burying him alive. Gat doesn't listen.



* AintTooProudToBeg: He begs Johnny and The Boss to kill him painlessly instead of burying him alive.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AintTooProudToBeg: After Gat locks him in the casket, Shogo begs him to just kill him instead of burying him alive. Gat doesn't listen.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Critical Research Failure is a disambiguation page


* JerkassHasAPoint: His deal is obviously designed to benefit the Brotherhood first and foremost - but at the start of the game, the Saints are just an escaped burn victim and a couple of their friends, hiding out in an abandoned building with pretty much nothing but the reputation of the original Saints to back them up. At this point, his assessments are entirely correct; the Boss just came out of a years-long coma and hasn't proven they still have what it takes, he doesn't need protection to deal with them, and the Saints are a has-been gang consisting of about three people skating on hopeful dreams, and thinks the Boss should be grateful he's willing to cut them in on anything at all. Of course, if you've done even a few missions of the other storylines, he is '''''far''''' off the bat. Even more so if you've already taken out one or both of the other two gangs, wherein he comes off as a blowhard that [[CriticalResearchFailure didn't watch Channel 6 News often enough]] when he decided to step to the Saints.

to:

* JerkassHasAPoint: His deal is obviously designed to benefit the Brotherhood first and foremost - but at the start of the game, the Saints are just an escaped burn victim and a couple of their friends, hiding out in an abandoned building with pretty much nothing but the reputation of the original Saints to back them up. At this point, his assessments are entirely correct; the Boss just came out of a years-long coma and hasn't proven they still have what it takes, he doesn't need protection to deal with them, and the Saints are a has-been gang consisting of about three people skating on hopeful dreams, and thinks the Boss should be grateful he's willing to cut them in on anything at all. Of course, if you've done even a few missions of the other storylines, he is '''''far''''' off the bat. Even more so if you've already taken out one or both of the other two gangs, wherein he comes off as a blowhard that [[CriticalResearchFailure didn't watch Channel 6 News often enough]] enough when he decided to step to the Saints.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Dewicked trope


* MacheteMayhem: His WeaponOfChoice, shared with the rest of the Samedi. [[spoiler:He also gets his head chopped off with his own.]]

to:

* MacheteMayhem: His WeaponOfChoice, weapon, shared with the rest of the Samedi. [[spoiler:He also gets his head chopped off with his own.]]

Added: 358

Changed: 59

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AnimalMotifs: The symbol for their gang is a tribal wolf that reflects the gang quite well, [[SavageWolves both in terms of their ruthless tactics]] and their [[NobleWolf sense of unity compared]] to the other two gangs.

to:

* AnimalMotifs: The symbol for their gang is a tribal wolf that reflects the gang quite well, [[SavageWolves both in terms of their ruthless tactics]] and their [[NobleWolf sense of unity compared]] to the other two gangs. Brotherhood members will occasionally howl as a battle cry.


Added DiffLines:

* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: They have basically the same gang colors as Los Carnales, who also specialized in arms dealing, and Maero was apparently a close friend of Victor Rodriguez; both are {{The Brute}}s of their respective games. Brotherhood associate Donnie is a former member of the Westside Rollerz, who like the Brotherhood, loved automobiles.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Dark Skinned Redhead is no longer a trope


* DarkSkinnedRedhead: He's AmbiguouslyBrown and has red hair.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:


* WeaponOfChoice: The Brotherhood wield [[DropTheHammer sledgehammers]], GDHC .50 pistols, 12 Gauges, [=SK9=] Threats, K6 Krukovs, pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, and [=RPGs=].

to:

* WeaponOfChoice: WeaponSpecialization: The Brotherhood wield [[DropTheHammer sledgehammers]], GDHC .50 pistols, 12 Gauges, [=SK9=] Threats, K6 Krukovs, pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, and [=RPGs=].



* WeaponOfChoice: Members of the Ronin carry {{katana|s are just better}} with them (Jyunichi even has [[SwordsAkimbo two]]), as well as VICE 9 pistols, GAL 43 submachine guns, and K6 Krukov rifles.

to:

* WeaponOfChoice: WeaponSpecialization: Members of the Ronin carry {{katana|s are just better}} with them (Jyunichi even has [[SwordsAkimbo two]]), as well as VICE 9 pistols, GAL 43 submachine guns, and K6 Krukov rifles.



* WeaponOfChoice: The Sons of Samedi wield {{machete|mayhem}}s and a very wide variety of firearms: their pistols are [=NR4=]s and VICE 9s; their [=SMGs=] are [=TK3=] Urbans and SKR-9 Threats; their shotguns are 12 Gauges, Tombstones, and [=AS14=] Hammers; their rifles are K6 Krukovs and AR-50 [=XMACs=]; and for good measure, they have explosives like [=RPGs=], hand grenades, pipe bombs, and {{Molotov cocktail}}s.

to:

* WeaponOfChoice: WeaponSpecialization: The Sons of Samedi wield {{machete|mayhem}}s and a very wide variety of firearms: their pistols are [=NR4=]s and VICE 9s; their [=SMGs=] are [=TK3=] Urbans and SKR-9 Threats; their shotguns are 12 Gauges, Tombstones, and [=AS14=] Hammers; their rifles are K6 Krukovs and AR-50 [=XMACs=]; and for good measure, they have explosives like [=RPGs=], hand grenades, pipe bombs, and {{Molotov cocktail}}s.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* LeeroyJenkins: Kazuo is the only gang leader in the game who keeps attacking the Saints or their allies until the last gang mission. The General has to be tracked down and Maero sets an ambush after escaping the attack on his compound but Kazuo keeps going all out as his numbers dwindle. He also boasts about coming back from being impaled to a flaming yacht for revenge with the Boss unimpressed as Kazuo is completely defeated at that point.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CowardiceCallout: A villainous version when he's confronting [[ButtMonkey Donnie]] for planting bombs in the Brotherhood's trucks at the coercion of [[VillainProtagonist the Boss]]. Maero gets so angry that he subjects Donnie to a NeckLift, and would have strangled him if [[DarkMistress Jessica]] didn't remind him that [[PragmaticVillainy she needs Donnie to fix her car]].
-->'''Donnie:''' I didn't have a choi-!\\
'''Maero:''' (''lifting Donnie by his neck'') You ''had'' a choice, Donnie! You chose ''your life'' over the rest of us!\\
'''Donnie:''' (''gasping for air'') I had a gun to my head, man! What was I supposed to do?\\
'''Maero:''' ''Have a spine!''
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* GameplayAndStorySegregation: Despite challenging the Boss to a personal duel, the fight against him involves multiple waves of Ronin mooks.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* MoralMyopia: In one of his audio logs in the fourth game, [[spoiler:he thinks that the Saints killing Jessica as retribution for Carlos' death is going too far despite, you know, the Brotherhood killing Carlos in the first place.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Bastard Boyfriend is no longer a trope


** While playing "Face Down" by The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus on Gen X, he will sometimes comment that he hopes that the abusive BastardBoyfriend in the song "gets what's coming to him". He really isn't one to talk, since he later kidnaps ''his'' ex-girlfriend and uses her as a hostage to save his own sorry ass.

to:

** While playing "Face Down" by The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus on Gen X, he will sometimes comment that he hopes that the abusive BastardBoyfriend the DomesticAbuser in the song "gets what's coming to him". He really isn't one to talk, since he later kidnaps ''his'' ex-girlfriend and uses her as a hostage to save his own sorry ass.

Added: 60

Removed: 130

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Nice Hat has been disambiguated


* NiceHat: Mr. Sunshine's rasta hat is probably the only nice thing about him.



* NeverBareheaded: Never seen without his rainbow Rasta hat.



* NiceHat: Never seen without his rainbow Rasta hat.

Added: 621

Changed: 288

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BerserkButton: While usually scared of his employers, when Mr. Sunshine tells him to know his place in the gang, he actually gives him a DeathGlare.
-->'''Veteran Child:''' [[TranquilFury My place]]?

to:

* BerserkButton: BerserkButton:
**
While usually scared of his employers, when Mr. Sunshine tells him to know his place in the gang, he actually gives him a DeathGlare.
-->'''Veteran --->'''Veteran Child:''' [[TranquilFury My place]]?place]]?
** In ''IV'', when paired with Matt as homies, he initially assumes Matt to be another VirtualGhost like him. He is infuriated to learn that Matt is actually still alive and that the Boss spared him after defeating him, while he didn't recieve the same courtesy. Of course, Matt neglected to mention that he had to bribe the Boss for that to happen, which Veteran Child didn't try to do and probably didn't have anything worth offering as a bribe anyway.


Added DiffLines:

* VirtualGhost: Like several characters who died in previous games, he is recreated as an AI in Zinyak's simulation.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TraumaCongaLine: The Boss delivers several to Maero after their failed deal. Starting off by having Donnie rig his gang's trucks, and then lacing his tattoo with radioactive waste that scars him. After Jessica [[spoiler:has Carlos killed, they get back at Maero by making him kill Jessica during his monster truck show]], cripple Matt, and kill several gang members Maero pressured Ultor to release, causing Ultor to appropriate his guns shipment. And after the Saints steal the equipment, they attack the Brotherhood's hideout before the Boss finishes him off in a monster truck rally.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* PragmaticVillainy: For all his selfishness and arrogance, he is still savvier than [[HonorBeforeReason his father]] with how to operate a criminal gang in America, as the deal he made with Ultor Corporation provided the Ronin with financial and legal protection in exchange for protecting Ultor's assets.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Up To Eleven is a defunct trope


* SmallNameBigEgo: He firmly believes that the Brotherhood is the strongest gang in Stilwater. He goes on believing it even after the Saints start tearing him a new one. Taken UpToEleven if you've already defeated the Ronin and Samedi before him, where he only controls the poor southern districts of Stilwater while the Saints now control the other richer districts of the city.

to:

* SmallNameBigEgo: He firmly believes that the Brotherhood is the strongest gang in Stilwater. He goes on believing it even after the Saints start tearing him a new one. Taken UpToEleven if If you've already defeated the Ronin and Samedi before him, where he only controls the poor southern districts of Stilwater while the Saints now control the other richer districts of the city.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: He is on the receiving end of a brutal one from a '''''[[TranquilFury very]]''''' furious Johnny Gat, and is then BuriedAlive afterwards. [[WhatAnIdiot This is what happens when you attack a funeral held for]][[spoiler: Aisha, Gat's girlfriend]], ''[[TooDumbToLive especially when your gang is responsible for said death]]''.

to:

* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: He is on the receiving end of a brutal one from a '''''[[TranquilFury very]]''''' furious Johnny Gat, and is then BuriedAlive afterwards. [[WhatAnIdiot This is what happens when you attack a funeral held for]][[spoiler: Aisha, Gat's girlfriend]], ''[[TooDumbToLive especially when your gang is responsible for said death]]''.

Top