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* KickTheSonOfABitch: When she kills Connal/abandons him to the [=PULSE=] Mr. Mime, it's horrifying, but it's pretty hard to say he didn't have it coming.
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* EvilCounterpart: To ''you'', the player. The avatar she uses in the main game, is highly similar to how you control the player character, and she makes it very clear she sees all this as a game... [[FourthWallObserver which, to be fair, it is.]]

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* EvilCounterpart: To ''you'', the player. The avatar she uses in the main game, game is highly similar to how you control the player character, and she makes it very clear she sees all this as a game... [[FourthWallObserver which, to be fair, it is.]]
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* IAmNotLeftHanded: When you finally fight him (around the time you get to Apophyll Academy), he has a relatively underwhelming team, consisting of early-game ComMons like Watchog or Pokemon that aren't even fully evolved, like Pikachu or Klang. Then he sends out his final Pokemon: [[spoiler:'''''a goddamn''''' '''''[[OlympusMons Rayquaza]]''''', which is 28 levels higher than the level cap to boot! Even with a sub-par movepool, it's still likely to lead to a TotalPartyKill.]] ''Then'' he tells you he wasn't even going all out [[spoiler:which is true; he can [[SuperMode Mega Evolve]] his Rayquaza]]!

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* IAmNotLeftHanded: When you finally fight him (around the time you get to Apophyll Academy), he has a relatively underwhelming team, consisting of early-game ComMons like Watchog or Pokemon Pokémon that aren't even fully evolved, like Pikachu or Klang. Then he sends out his final Pokemon: Pokémon: [[spoiler:'''''a goddamn''''' '''''[[OlympusMons Rayquaza]]''''', which is 28 levels higher than the level cap to boot! Even with a sub-par movepool, it's still likely to lead to a TotalPartyKill.]] ''Then'' he tells you he wasn't even going all out [[spoiler:which is true; he can [[SuperMode Mega Evolve]] his Rayquaza]]!



* MakingASplash: When you get to fight him in an optional battle, four of his six Pokemon- Marshtomp, Lanturn, Floatzel, and Gyarados- are Water-type. {{Justified|Trope}}, since he became a fisherman after he was fired from the Reborn League.

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* MakingASplash: When you get to fight him in an optional battle, four of his six Pokemon- Pokémon- Marshtomp, Lanturn, Floatzel, and Gyarados- are Water-type. {{Justified|Trope}}, since he became a fisherman after he was fired from the Reborn League.



* {{Foil}}: [[spoiler: To Ame. Both are [[CreatorCameo based on the people who made the respective game/mod]] and founded a Pokemon League, but while Amethyst ran her league and actively worked to maintain it, Commander stepped down and left it to Techie Johnathan, becoming a recluse in Terra's computer world. They even have different forms of the Pokemon Ninetales on their team!]]

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* {{Foil}}: [[spoiler: To Ame. Both are [[CreatorCameo based on the people who made the respective game/mod]] and founded a Pokemon Pokémon League, but while Amethyst ran her league and actively worked to maintain it, Commander stepped down and left it to Techie Johnathan, becoming a recluse in Terra's computer world. They even have different forms of the Pokemon Pokémon Ninetales on their team!]]
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* {{Determinator}}: In a bit of side dialogue, he tells you that he's going to get an [[PhysicalGod Arceus]] for a kid who requested one, just to see his reaction. Not too impressive, until you find out that ''he actually succeeded'' [[spoiler: ...sort of. He got a [[Characters/PokemonGenerationVIIFamilies Type: Null]], an artificial recreation of Arceus, which he intends to pass of as the real deal. Still impressive, considering there are canonically only three in existence.]]

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* {{Determinator}}: In a bit of side dialogue, he tells you that he's going to get an [[PhysicalGod Arceus]] for a kid who requested one, just to see his reaction. Not too impressive, until you find out that ''he actually succeeded'' [[spoiler: ...sort of. He got a [[Characters/PokemonGenerationVIIFamilies Type: Null]], an artificial recreation of Arceus, which he intends to pass of off as the real deal. Still impressive, considering there are canonically only three in existence.]]
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[[folder:The Ringmaster]]

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[[folder:The Ringmaster]][[folder:Alistasia]]
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* HateSink: Tragic as his backstory is, it doesn’t make his actions any less horrific or make him any less of a horrible person… especially when you learn that he considers disabilities like Noel’s autism to be something that requires electric shocks, or when he [[spoiler: denied Shade’s request for gender transitioning,]] while there are more despicable antagonists than him he is still a genuinely horrible person.

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* HateSink: Tragic as his backstory is, it doesn’t make his actions any less horrific or make him any less of a horrible person… especially when you learn that he considers disabilities like Noel’s autism to be something that requires electric shocks, or when he [[spoiler: denied Shade’s request for gender transitioning,]] while transitioning.]] While there are more despicable antagonists than him he is still a genuinely horrible person.
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* AcceptableTargets: Pretty much considered this InUniverse by the Magma and Aqua gangs, and the police don’t seem to care that much about her stolen Pokemon.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: It’s implied that Connel is both ableist and [[spoiler: Transphobic,]] as he considers Noel’s autism to be something that requires electric shock therapy, and he [[spoiler: denies Shade access to gender transition care even though it would improve his mental health, which is his job to do.]]

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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: It’s implied that Connel Connal is both ableist and [[spoiler: Transphobic,]] transphobic,]] as he considers Noel’s autism to be something that requires electric shock therapy, and he [[spoiler: denies Shade access to gender transition care even though it would improve his mental health, which is his job to do.]]
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* HateSink: Tragic as his backstory is, it doesn’t make his actions any less horrific or make him any less of a horrible person… especially when you learn that he considers disability’s like Noel’s autism to be something that requires electric shocks, or when he [[spoiler: denied Shade’s request for gender transitioning,]] while there are more despicable antagonists than him he is still a genuinely horrible person.

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* HateSink: Tragic as his backstory is, it doesn’t make his actions any less horrific or make him any less of a horrible person… especially when you learn that he considers disability’s disabilities like Noel’s autism to be something that requires electric shocks, or when he [[spoiler: denied Shade’s request for gender transitioning,]] while there are more despicable antagonists than him he is still a genuinely horrible person.
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* CruelAndUnusualDeath: [[spoiler:It's not known whether Lin or the PULSE Mr Mime killed him, but when you find him in the Labradorra Control Centre, he's slumped in the PULSE machine and his face is covered in blood. Worse, when you fight him, you get a better look at his body- it's hanging from the PULSE Mr Mime's strings, it's covered in blood and his right leg has been reduced to a bloody lump of flesh that doesn't even have a foot attached. Worse, since his Alakazam Mega Evolves during the battle, something that shouldn't be possible if he's dead, there's a theory that he was actually still alive at that point, and the PULSE Mr Mime was keeping him alive until after it was defeated.]]

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* CruelAndUnusualDeath: [[spoiler:It's not known whether Lin or the PULSE Mr Mime killed him, but when you find him in the Labradorra Labradorra-Calcenon Control Centre, he's slumped in the PULSE machine and his face is covered in blood. Worse, when you fight him, you get a better look at his body- it's hanging from the PULSE Mr Mime's strings, it's covered in blood and his right leg has been reduced to a bloody lump of flesh that doesn't even have a foot attached. Worse, since his Alakazam Mega Evolves during the battle, something that shouldn't be possible if he's dead, there's a theory that he was actually still alive at that point, and the PULSE Mr Mime was keeping him alive until after it was defeated.]]
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* OminousMusicBoxTune: Her {{Leitmotif}}.
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* HateSink: Tragic as his backstory is, it doesn’t make his actions any less horrific or make him any less of a horrible person… especially when you learn that he considers disability’s like Noel’s autism to be something that requires electric shocks, or when he [[denied Shade’s request for gender transitioning.]]

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* HateSink: Tragic as his backstory is, it doesn’t make his actions any less horrific or make him any less of a horrible person… especially when you learn that he considers disability’s like Noel’s autism to be something that requires electric shocks, or when he [[denied [[spoiler: denied Shade’s request for gender transitioning.]]transitioning,]] while there are more despicable antagonists than him he is still a genuinely horrible person.
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* HateSink: Tragic as his backstory is, it doesn’t make his actions any less horrific or make him any less of a horrible person… especially when you learn that he considers disability’s like Noel’s autism to be something that requires electric shocks, or when he [[denied Shade’s request for gender transitioning.]]


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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: It’s implied that Connel is both ableist and [[spoiler: Transphobic,]] as he considers Noel’s autism to be something that requires electric shock therapy, and he [[spoiler: denies Shade access to gender transition care even though it would improve his mental health, which is his job to do.]]
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* EvilCannotComprehendGood: [[spoiler: If you choose to save her from falling before catching Arceus at the end of her route, she's absolutely blindsided as to why you'd do something like that. And in her credits scene, she's hesitant to go into the Nightclub because she's convinced the other characters would kill her for her actions, even questioning why she hasn't been arrested yet.]]
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* EvilCounterpart: To ''you'', the player. The avatar she uses in the main game, is highly similar to how you control the player character, and she makes it very clear she sees all this as a game... [[FourthWallObserver which, to be fair, it is.]]
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* OrphanageOfFear: Runs one of these in the Lapis Ward.

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* %%* OrphanageOfFear: Runs He runs one of these in the Lapis Ward.



* ShockAndAwe: He's a Electric specialist.
* SignatureMon: His [[ShockAndAwe Electivire]].

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* %%* SignatureMon: His [[ShockAndAwe Electivire]].






* UncertainDoom: [[spoiler:After you defeat her in the Idyll of Panaceance and get the Flower Garden Field to Level 5, she gets angrier and angrier - and then vanishes. Eve isn't sure what happened, and if you're on her route, Lin openly questions if you made her explode]].

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* UncertainDoom: [[spoiler:After you defeat her in the Idyll of Panaceance and get the Flower Garden Field to Level 5, she gets angrier and angrier - -- and then vanishes. Eve isn't sure what happened, and if you're on her route, Lin openly questions if you made her explode]].









-->'''Ringmaster''': Have you considered therapy? I know a guy covered by your insurance.
-->'''Samson''': I have insurance?

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-->'''Ringmaster''': Have you considered therapy? I know a guy covered by your insurance.
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insurance.\\
'''Samson''':
I have insurance?



--> I'm gonna turn around, and there's gonna be more nonsense behind me.\\

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--> I'm -->"I'm gonna turn around, and there's gonna be more nonsense behind me.\\"\\



Great galloping Galvantula, whaddyaknow.

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Great "Great galloping Galvantula, whaddyaknow."






* AmbiguouslyBrown

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* PlayingWithFire: His specialty.

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* MakingASplash: His specialty.
* EmotionsVsStoicism: He’s mostly used to logic, as opposed to Maxwell’s emotional approach.

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* %%* MakingASplash: His specialty.
* EmotionsVsStoicism: He’s He's mostly used to logic, as opposed to Maxwell’s emotional approach.









* TheLostLenore: To Radomus.

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* %%* TheLostLenore: To Radomus.






* AbusiveParents: Lin's father would sexually abuse her and urge it to keep it secret from her mother, praising her as a "good girl" and "little angel" who would one day be a "perfect wife" to some "very lucky man". When her mother discovered this, she attempted to kill herself and Lin so that they could escape the abuse. She was unable to go ahead with killing Lin.

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* AbusiveParents: Lin's father would sexually abuse her and urge it her to keep it secret from her mother, praising her as a "good girl" and "little angel" who would one day be a "perfect wife" to some "very lucky man". When her mother discovered this, she attempted to kill herself and Lin so that they could escape the abuse. She was unable to go ahead with killing Lin.



* BadBoss: To Team Meteor - she admits in the postgame that she was deliberately running them into the ground and had no real intention of helping them win.

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* BadBoss: To Team Meteor - -- she admits in the postgame that she was deliberately running them into the ground and had no real intention of helping them win.



-->'''Lin:''' "...wait. ...you... you didn't... '''''KILL''''' him, right? puppy was.... all i had... you're a bastard. i'm going. don't try and stop me."

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-->'''Lin:''' "...wait. ...you... you didn't... '''''KILL''''' him, right? puppy was....was... all i had... you're a bastard. i'm going. don't try and stop me."



* FourthWallObserver: Says “You’re like me… why else would you keep playing?”, and later calls the player character by the player's username on their computer.

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* FourthWallObserver: Says “You’re She says "You’re like me… me... why else would you keep playing?”, playing?", and later calls the player character by the player's username on their computer.






* ButtMonkey[=/=]TheChewToy: Constantly gets hit by one misfortune after another, starting with him losing his job at the Reborn League.
* MakingASplash: When you get to fight him in an optional battle, four of his six Pokemon- Marshtomp, Lanturn, Floatzel, and Gyarados- are Water-type. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]], since he became a fisherman after he was fired from the Reborn League.

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* ButtMonkey[=/=]TheChewToy: ButtMonkey: Constantly gets hit by one misfortune after another, starting with him losing his job at the Reborn League.
* MakingASplash: When you get to fight him in an optional battle, four of his six Pokemon- Marshtomp, Lanturn, Floatzel, and Gyarados- are Water-type. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]], {{Justified|Trope}}, since he became a fisherman after he was fired from the Reborn League.






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* SmugSuper: As [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking head of the Hardcore League]] [[spoiler:and owner of a [[OlympusMons Rayquaza]]]], he's got a bit of a swelled head.

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* SmugSuper: As [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking [[RankScalesWithAsskicking head of the Hardcore League]] [[spoiler:and owner of a [[OlympusMons Rayquaza]]]], he's got a bit of a swelled head.

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* TheCobblersChildrenHaveNoShoes: He runs an orphanage, and uses electroshock therapy to treat mental illnesses. But to be blunt, he's probably the most mentally ill person in the Orphanage, and possibly in the entire story. It's also deconstructed, because he does a ''lot'' of things in the name of "helping" the children he watches over that any sane person could tell are not helping at all. Anna even spells it out to him when she's running away that he can't tell the difference between helping the kids and hurting them, and he ignores her.



* DirtyOldMan: Heather calls him this [[spoiler:in the void]], though he clearly isn't one [[spoiler: at first glance; when defeated at her own gym Saphira explained that their animosity largely stems from his having sexually assaulted her in a drunken state of grief over his sister. Though Connal himself claims that said accusation is merely a delusion and there is little evidence for either side, the tone and theme of abuse in the game imply that Saphira is telling the truth]].

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* DirtyOldMan: Heather calls him this [[spoiler:in the void]], though he clearly isn't one [[spoiler: at first glance; when defeated at her own gym Saphira explained that their her animosity largely stems from his him having sexually assaulted her in a drunken state of grief over his sister. Though Connal himself claims that said accusation is merely a delusion and there is little evidence for either side, the tone and theme of abuse in the game imply that Saphira is telling the truth]].
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[[folder: Dr. Connal]]

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[[folder:[[spoiler: Commander]]]]

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-->[[spoiler:'''Anna (during her postgame route):'''Sigmund may have been Evil, but that doesn’t mean he deserves what you did!]]

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-->[[spoiler:'''Anna (during her postgame route):'''Sigmund route): '''Sigmund may have been Evil, but that doesn’t mean he deserves what you did!]]



* DirtyOldMan: Heather calls him this [[spoiler:in the void]], though he clearly isn't one [[spoiler: at first glance; when defeated at her own gym Saphira explained that their animosity largley stems from him sexually assaulting her in a drunken state of grief over his sister. Though he claims that its a delusion of short, it still leave little evidence on who in the right; But given the tone and theme of abuse in the game, it's difficult not to believe that the victim is telling the truth]].

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* DirtyOldMan: Heather calls him this [[spoiler:in the void]], though he clearly isn't one [[spoiler: at first glance; when defeated at her own gym Saphira explained that their animosity largley largely stems from him his having sexually assaulting assaulted her in a drunken state of grief over his sister. Though he Connal himself claims that its said accusation is merely a delusion of short, it still leave and there is little evidence on who in the right; But given for either side, the tone and theme of abuse in the game, it's difficult not to believe game imply that the victim Saphira is telling the truth]].



* FreudianExcuse: He grew up with strict, cold parents and an older sister, Lizzy, who he adored. Lizzy was very depressed, and none of the treatments worked. After reading about ECT, Sigmund tried it with his Pichu; it actually seemed to work, but when his mother found out, she took his Pichu away and banned him from talking to Lizzy. Lizzy, meanwhile, was suffering from withdrawal from going off antidepressants, and having lost the one thing that was actually helping, she found her mother's stash of the antidepressants and accidentally killed herself by taking the whole bottle. It left ''significant'' scars on Sigmund.

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* FreudianExcuse: He grew up with strict, cold parents and an older sister, Lizzy, who whom he adored. Lizzy was very depressed, suffered from clinical depression, and none of the treatments worked. After reading about ECT, Sigmund tried it with his Pichu; it actually seemed to work, but when his mother found out, she took his Pichu away and banned him from talking to Lizzy. Lizzy, meanwhile, was suffering from withdrawal from going off antidepressants, and having lost the one thing that was actually helping, she found her mother's stash of the antidepressants and accidentally killed herself by taking the whole bottle. It left ''significant'' scars on Sigmund.
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* PsychoPsychologist: Who conducts literal shock therapy on his [[IncrediblyLamePun charges]].

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* PsychoPsychologist: Who conducts literal shock therapy on his [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} charges]].
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** She told Euphie straight up that Dr Connal would never give him the letter he needed, but offered to forge him one instead. (Euphie didn't take the offer.)
** She says at one point that she set up the quest with the Lati twins to help Florinia with her emotions.
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* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: A variation. We first meet the Destroyer part in her avatar, she is the JerkassWoobie behind it.

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