History Characters / HomestuckGuardians

13th Jul '16 8:04:47 PM DustSnitch
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* PapaWolf[=/=]MamaBear: It's implied that a lot of the stuff they did was to protect their charges; Dad beats up the imps that invaded the Egbert household, Mom opens an escape hatch for Rose when their house lights fire, Bro ''chops a meteor in half while riding it'' to keep it from hitting Dave, and Bec destroys a meteor ([[NiceJobBreakingItHero and all life on Earth]]) to save Jade.



* PrivateDetective[=/=]VigilanteMan: He had a short-lived stint as a private eye.

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* PrivateDetective[=/=]VigilanteMan: PrivateDetective: He had a short-lived stint as a private eye.



* DeadpanSnarker[=/=]SilentSnarker: Her daughter thinks she's this, though her elaborate, unintentionally cruel ways of showing her affection are actually her trying to bond with her daughter.



* HotScientist[=/=]HelloNurse: [[SurpriseIncest Dave]] shows interest in her, and Mr. Egbert had a rather [[DroppedABridgeOnHim brief]] relationship with her. This is lampshaded with her Post-Scratch Counterpart, Roxy, who Dave has some trouble talking about with Rose without being accused of having a thing for his mother.

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* HotScientist[=/=]HelloNurse: HotScientist: [[SurpriseIncest Dave]] shows interest in her, and Mr. Egbert had a rather [[DroppedABridgeOnHim brief]] relationship with her. This is lampshaded with her Post-Scratch Counterpart, Roxy, who Dave has some trouble talking about with Rose without being accused of having a thing for his mother.



* SilentSnarker: Her daughter thinks she's this, though her elaborate, unintentionally cruel ways of showing her affection are actually her trying to bond with her daughter.



* SeriesMascot[=/=]TeamPet: Subverted; he was shaping up to be both of these, the former due to his silhouette being an ArcSymbol and the latter due to his relationship with Jade. Before he has the chance to join Jade on her adventures, however, [[DroppedABridgeOnHim his personality is wiped from existence]].
* StarfishLanguage / TheUnintelligible: When Jade tried to talk to Becsprite after prototyping, she [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004907 quickly found out]] that doing so was a BrownNote and resolved not to try it again.

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* SeriesMascot[=/=]TeamPet: SeriesMascot: Subverted; he was shaping up to be both of these, the former due to his silhouette being an ArcSymbol and the latter due to his relationship with Jade.ArcSymbol. Before he has the chance to join Jade on her adventures, however, [[DroppedABridgeOnHim his personality is wiped from existence]].
* StarfishLanguage / TheUnintelligible: When Jade tried to talk to Becsprite after prototyping, she [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004907 quickly found out]] that doing so was a BrownNote TeamPet: The only non-human among the Guardians and resolved not perhaps the least complex, due to try it again.his one-dimensional devotion to Jade's protection.



* TheUnintelligible: When Jade tried to talk to Becsprite after prototyping, she [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004907 quickly found out]] that doing so was a BrownNote and resolved not to try it again.



* DoomedByCanon: He's alive in the Incipisphere through time travel, but he's destined to return to Earth and get shot. [[NotAfraidToDie He doesn't seem all that bothered by it, though]].



* ForegoneConclusion / DoomedByCanon: He's alive in the Incipisphere through time travel, but he's destined to return to Earth and get shot. [[NotAfraidToDie He doesn't seem all that bothered by it, though]].



* PhysicalGod / RealityWarper: Like all the other First Guardians.

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* PhysicalGod / RealityWarper: PhysicalGod: Like all the other First Guardians.Guardians.
* RealityWarper



* GiantMook / AttackOfThe50FootWhatever: The size of the lusus is pretty variable; the centaurs especially range from being their original size when seen with Equius to being the size of skyscrapers, probably intended as a continuation of Aurthour's ShoutOut to ''Humanimals''. The "gigantic Earth crabdad" was also several times the size of Karkat's lusus.
** KingMook: At least a few lusus seem to be solitary monsters and not an entire population.

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* GiantMook / AttackOfThe50FootWhatever: GiantMook: The size of the lusus is pretty variable; the centaurs especially range from being their original size when seen with Equius to being the size of skyscrapers, probably intended as a continuation of Aurthour's ShoutOut to ''Humanimals''. The "gigantic Earth crabdad" was also several times the size of Karkat's lusus.
** * KingMook: At least a few lusus seem to be solitary monsters and not an entire population.



* HighPressureBlood / LudicrousGibs: [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004172 Best lusus death yet.]]

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* HighPressureBlood / LudicrousGibs: HighPressureBlood: [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004172 Best lusus death yet.]]



* AwesomeMcCoolname: ''Marquise Spinneret Mindfang''. ''Orphaner Dualscar''. ''Neophyte Redglare''. ''Expatriate Darkleer''. Even the ''Grand Highblood'' gets in on this, if only with a title rather than a name.

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* AwesomeMcCoolname: ''Marquise Marquise Spinneret Mindfang''. ''Orphaner Dualscar''. ''Neophyte Redglare''. ''Expatriate Darkleer''. Even Mindfang, Orphaner Dualscar, the ''Grand Highblood'' gets in on this, if only with a title rather than a name.Grand Highblood, Neophyte Redglare, Expatriate Darkleer / the Executor, and the Condesce / Her Imperious Condescension.



* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast / AwesomeMcCoolname: Marquise Spinneret Mindfang, Orphaner Dualscar, the Grand Highblood, Neophyte Redglare, Expatriate Darkleer / the Executor, the Summoner, the Signless Sufferer and the Condesce / Her Imperious Condescension. The Handmaid subverts this but plays straight with her alternate title, the Demoness.

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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast / AwesomeMcCoolname: Marquise Spinneret Mindfang, Orphaner Dualscar, NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: See [[AwesomeMcCoolname Awesome McCoolname]], but special mention to the Grand Highblood, Neophyte Redglare, Expatriate Darkleer / the Executor, the Summoner, the Signless Sufferer and the Condesce / Her Imperious Condescension. The Handmaid subverts this but plays straight with her alternate title, the Demoness.



* TheCorrupter: The Handmaid takes/took over for Doc Scratch, manipulating Alternia into a violent dystopia:
-->'''Doc Scratch:''' She stirred up class warfare and intensified bigotry in whatever era she haunted. She made sure the descendents would enter a world which prepared them well for the game, and took measures to see that they would play as they did.
* NotQuiteSavedEnough: She has a few panels of blissful freedom thanks to Andrew Hussie, only to run into Lord English almost immediately.



* DeathSeeker[=/=]DrivenToSuicide: Due to the abuse she received from Doc Scratch and Lord English, she wants nothing more than a release from life. She eventually gets what she wants, though it remains unknown how long she lived before her encounter with The Condesce.

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* DeathSeeker[=/=]DrivenToSuicide: DeathSeeker: Due to the abuse she received from Doc Scratch and Lord English, she wants nothing more than a release from life. life.
* DrivenToSuicide:
She eventually gets what she wants, dies willingly, though it remains unknown how long she lived before her encounter with The Condesce.



* HopeSpot[=/=]NotQuiteSavedEnough: She has a few panels of blissful freedom thanks to Andrew Hussie, only to run into Lord English almost immediately.

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* HopeSpot[=/=]NotQuiteSavedEnough: She has a few panels of blissful freedom thanks {{Foreshadowing}}: Her [[ShortHairWithTail hair]][[TwinTails style]] is similar to Andrew Hussie, only Meenah's (the Condesce's pre-scratch self), who her pre-scratch self Damara hated enough to run into join Lord English almost immediately.English.



* {{Foreshadowing}}: Her [[ShortHairWithTail hair]][[TwinTails style]] is similar to Meenah's (the Condesce's pre-scratch self), who her pre-scratch self Damara hated enough to join Lord English.



* ManipulativeBitch[=/=]TheCorrupter: The Handmaid takes/took over for Doc Scratch, manipulating Alternia into a violent dystopia:
-->'''Doc Scratch:''' She stirred up class warfare and intensified bigotry in whatever era she haunted. She made sure the descendents would enter a world which prepared them well for the game, and took measures to see that they would play as they did.



* ComicallyMissingThePoint: In [[Webcomic/ParadoxSpace Suffering Through (And For) The People]], the Ψiionic threatens people for ignoring the Sufferer's words of tolerance and compassion.



* [[PoweredByAForsakenChild Powered By A Forsaken Psychic]]: The Ψiioniic is the battery that runs/navigates the Condesce's starship.

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* [[PoweredByAForsakenChild Powered By A Forsaken Psychic]]: PoweredByAForsakenChild: The Ψiioniic is the battery that runs/navigates the Condesce's starship.



* DarkMessiah / FallenHero: What happened to the once-idealistic Sufferer after he was tortured by the highbloods right before he died.
* LaResistance / TheMole: The Sufferer had at least one secret ally during Mindfang's time.

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* DarkMessiah / FallenHero: What happened to the once-idealistic Sufferer after he was tortured by the highbloods right before he died.
* LaResistance / TheMole: The Sufferer had at least one secret ally during Mindfang's time.
died.



* TheMole: The Sufferer had at least one secret ally during Mindfang's time.



* [[ThePowerOfHate The Power of Rage]]: What the Sufferer discovered between getting the idealism tortured out of him and dying.

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* [[ThePowerOfHate The Power of Rage]]: ThePowerOfHate: What the Sufferer discovered between getting the idealism tortured out of him and dying.



* CruelAndUnusualDeath[=/=]DeathByIrony: Redglare was last seen in the middle of an angry mob of mind-controlled lowbloods, who then proceeded to execute her. These were the very same lowbloods she was trying to protect.

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* CruelAndUnusualDeath[=/=]DeathByIrony: CruelAndUnusualDeath: Redglare was last seen in the middle of an angry mob of mind-controlled lowbloods, who then proceeded to execute her. These were her.
* DeathByIrony: Executed by
the very same lowbloods she was trying to protect.



* TheMole: Supported the Signless's cult from within the Condesce's empire.



* LaResistance: Was secretly a supporter of the Sufferer.



* {{Badass}}/ManipulativeBitch: Yes, she is both of these things. No, it's not a very usual combination.

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* {{Badass}}/ManipulativeBitch: Yes, she is both {{Badass}}: Especially in the eyes of these things. No, it's not a very usual combination.Vriska Serket.


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* ManipulativeBitch: Able to hide an item from [[TheOmniscient Doc Scratch]] for centuries, while still having finding time to pillage and kill.
23rd Jun '16 12:41:33 PM captainpat
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* CleopatraNose: Rose's Mom and Roxy certainly think so.
3rd Jun '16 4:10:26 PM PixelKnight
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* WeaponOfChoice: Lil Cal, or his Unbreakable Katana if he's getting serious.



* {{BFG}}: His gun appears to be a pistol handle with a ''blunderbuss'' for a barrel. Leaves craters large enough for a few people to lie down in.

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* {{BFG}}: His gun appears to be a pistol handle with a ''blunderbuss'' for a barrel. Leaves craters large enough for a few people to lie down in.in, and the gun itself is too large for Jade to lift it.
26th May '16 6:44:23 PM DustSnitch
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!!!The Handmaid/The Demoness
* AntiAntiChrist: The Handmaid does not seem happy about her role in shaping history.
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Pre-Scratch, Damara wanted desperately to serve Lord English and even sabotaged her own session to further his plans. Post-Scratch, The Handmaid got to do just that and did not like it at all.
* BreadEggsMilkSquick: This line about the Handmaid's future from Doc Scratch: "My lessons would emphasize obedience, mastery of the clockwork majyyks, and being locked in a room."
* TheDragon: Both The Handmaid and then later The Condesce serve Lord English in the role, the former throughout Alternia's post-Scratch history and the later in both versions of Earth and in the post-scratch session.
* DragonLady: Described both as an Asian schoolgirl and death's "super foxy handmaid."
* DeathSeeker[=/=]DrivenToSuicide: Due to the abuse she received from Doc Scratch and Lord English, she wants nothing more than a release from life. She eventually gets what she wants, though it remains unknown how long she lived before her encounter with The Condesce.
* FanNickname: Arasia, for back when she first appeared as an Asian-clothed Aradia in Doc Scratch's apartment.
* FateWorseThanDeath: The Handmaid has attempted suicide to escape from her eternal slavery, to no effect.
* HopeSpot[=/=]NotQuiteSavedEnough: She has a few panels of blissful freedom thanks to Andrew Hussie, only to run into Lord English almost immediately.
* ImmortalityBeginsAtTwenty: She doesn't look like she's aged much since she reached adulthood around [[AlternateCalendar nine sweeps]].
* ImmortalityHurts: So much, she'd rather die - or kill - than allow it to continue.
* {{Foreshadowing}}: Her [[ShortHairWithTail hair]][[TwinTails style]] is similar to Meenah's (the Condesce's pre-scratch self), who her pre-scratch self Damara hated enough to join Lord English.
* {{Leitmotif}}: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OFQHEy5TDw The Lost Child]]
* ManipulativeBitch[=/=]TheCorrupter: The Handmaid takes/took over for Doc Scratch, manipulating Alternia into a violent dystopia:
-->'''Doc Scratch:''' She stirred up class warfare and intensified bigotry in whatever era she haunted. She made sure the descendents would enter a world which prepared them well for the game, and took measures to see that they would play as they did.
* OffModel: Seems Aradia follows in [[http://i.imgur.com/x6REw.gif her ancestor's footsteps.]] (This panel was swiftly corrected, but not before the entire fanbase right-click-saved for hilarity.)
* ShortHairWithTail: A variation with bangs.
* {{Tykebomb}}
* UsedToBeASweetKid: She used to be such an [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005968 adorable little grub]].
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: It isn't hard to feel bad for her, considering what she went through and in spite of what she's destined to do.
* WhoWantsToLiveForever: She really, really doesn't.



!!! Her Imperious Condescension and the Handmaid

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!!! Her Imperious Condescension and the Handmaid
Condescension
26th May '16 5:39:33 PM DustSnitch
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* TheBeastMaster: His Communion powers give him the ability to control Lusii like Pyralsprite.



* StrawHypocrite: Implied; despite preaching for love and tolerance, the Signless's final sermon is one of pure rage. The characterization of his Pre-Scratch counterpart gives some leeway to this idea.
* ThePowerOfLove: The Signless not only experienced a "love beyond the quadrants," but also called for acceptance for all regardless of blood.



** Referenced later, when Meenah calls him what his shit.


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** Referenced later, when Meenah calls him what "what his shit.

shit."




* NaiveNewcomer: One of her first missions as a Legislacerator was to take Mindfang in, leading to her death via Mindfang's will.




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* AnimalNemesis: Wishes to control Pyralsprite after it destroys her fleet of pirates.



* MrExposition: Her journals are one of two [[InfoDump Info Dumps]] regarding the Ancestors and how they parallel the contemporary Trolls.



* TheExile: Was exiled after failing to kill the Disciple.

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* TheExile: Was exiled after failing to kill the Disciple.Disciple




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* PowerOfTheVoid: What allows him to hide Mindfang's cue ball.




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* AnimeHair: One of most grandiose examples in the canon.
* BloodyHorror: The Grand Highblood's throne room is ''painted'' with blood from the all across Hemospectrum.
* DisproportionateRetribution: If someone fails to tell a good joke for the Grand Highblood, they will be executed.
* HumanSacrifice: Killed Dualscar as a sacrifice in anticipation of the Vast Honk, and is implied to have done so to countless trolls.



* MonsterClown: The Grand Highblood.

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* MonsterClown: The Grand Highblood.leader of the Subjuggulators.




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* ReligionOfEvil: A follower of the Mirthful Messiahs.


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* DirtyCoward: From Mindfang's perspective.
18th May '16 1:59:34 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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He also played the role of Judge Stone in the post-scratch universe's version of ''NightCourt''.

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He also played the role of Judge Stone in the post-scratch universe's version of ''NightCourt''.''Series/NightCourt''.



** His status as a friend and rival of Harry Anderson, and his taking the ''NightCourt'' role really played by Anderson, references [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002536 John's fondness of Anderson]].
* TheDanza: In the real ''NightCourt'', Harry Anderson's character was named Harold Stone. In the post-scratch universe, where Poppop played that role instead of Anderson, the character is instead named Johnny Stone.

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** His status as a friend and rival of Harry Anderson, and his taking the ''NightCourt'' ''Series/NightCourt'' role really played by Anderson, references [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=002536 John's fondness of Anderson]].
* TheDanza: In the real ''NightCourt'', ''Series/NightCourt'', Harry Anderson's character was named Harold Stone. In the post-scratch universe, where Poppop played that role instead of Anderson, the character is instead named Johnny Stone.



* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: Inverted with respect to Harry Anderson by taking his role as Judge Stone in ''NightCourt''. Played straight by Harry Anderson who becomes a private detective as a result.

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* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: Inverted with respect to Harry Anderson by taking his role as Judge Stone in ''NightCourt''.''Series/NightCourt''. Played straight by Harry Anderson who becomes a private detective as a result.
8th May '16 7:43:36 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* CoolShades: '''[[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Kamina]]''' [[TriangleShades shades]], to be precise. John's calls them "dumb anime shades" as a nod to this. WordOfGod says that it wasn't deliberate at first, but was [[AscendedFanon made a retroactive reference]] once his forum-goers asked him about it and brought Kamina to his attention.

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* CoolShades: '''[[TengenToppaGurrenLagann '''[[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Kamina]]''' [[TriangleShades shades]], to be precise. John's calls them "dumb anime shades" as a nod to this. WordOfGod says that it wasn't deliberate at first, but was [[AscendedFanon made a retroactive reference]] once his forum-goers asked him about it and brought Kamina to his attention.
6th May '16 1:41:11 PM CJCroen1393
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* ForegoneConclusion / DoomedByCanon: He's alive in the Incipisphere through time travel, but he's destined to return to Earth and get shot.

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* ForegoneConclusion / DoomedByCanon: He's alive in the Incipisphere through time travel, but he's destined to return to Earth and get shot. [[NotAfraidToDie He doesn't seem all that bothered by it, though]].
6th May '16 1:39:42 PM CJCroen1393
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* GoodParents: Implied; when Dad Crocker sees John for the very first time, he remembers Poppop and immediately hugs him, implying that Poppop was a good enough father to him that he'd remember him fondly.
6th May '16 1:34:38 PM CJCroen1393
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* DeathOfPersonality: Just like Bec up there. Even worse for GCAT, in fact, as there's no indication that his personality is still around in [=GCATavsprite=].
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