History Characters / GameOfThronesHouseBaratheonOfKingsLanding

25th Jan '16 12:50:02 PM Silverblade2
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* OrcusOnHisThrone[=/=]NonActionBigBad: While Tywin and his bannermen are out fighting the war in Seasons 2/3 and Tyrion and Cersei are scheming for power in King's Landing, Joffrey does nothing except abuse peasants and engage in emotional abuse of Sansa. Justified because:
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* OrcusOnHisThrone[=/=]NonActionBigBad: OrcusOnHisThrone: While Tywin and his bannermen are out fighting the war in Seasons 2/3 and Tyrion and Cersei are scheming for power in King's Landing, Joffrey does nothing except abuse peasants and engage in emotional abuse of Sansa. Justified because:

* RightForTheWrongReasons[=/=]WrongGenreSavvy: Joff actually gets this about once a season.
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* RightForTheWrongReasons[=/=]WrongGenreSavvy: RightForTheWrongReasons: Joff actually gets this about once a season.

* PuppetKing[=/=]SuperiorSuccessor: Is considered this by Tywin and the Tyrells, due to the fact he lacks Joffrey's arrogance, stupidity, insanity, sadism, delusions of grandeur, etc., and also because he genuinely wants to be a good, wise king. Tywin in particular is also pleased at how much easier he will be to control, but at the very least Tommen's temperament if he ''does'' somehow defy Tywin sure beats Joffrey's whenever he wasn't checked by Tywin.
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* PuppetKing[=/=]SuperiorSuccessor: PuppetKing: Is considered this by Tywin and the Tyrells, due to the fact he lacks Joffrey's arrogance, stupidity, insanity, sadism, delusions of grandeur, etc., and also because he genuinely wants to be a good, wise king. Tywin in particular is also pleased at how much easier he will be to control, but at the very least Tommen's temperament if he ''does'' somehow defy Tywin sure beats Joffrey's whenever he wasn't checked by Tywin.
15th Jan '16 9:10:38 AM brolaf
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** Even in Season 1 King Robert and Littlefinger both try to set Joffrey up as a temporary puppet to Ned Stark, only for Ned's Honor to unravel their plans.
12th Jan '16 12:29:52 PM Kalaong
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** Season Three: When consulting his grandfather [[MagnificentBastard Tywin]] in the throne room, Joffrey voices his concerns about Daenerys Targaryen and her three dragons. Three centuries before, Aegon Targaryen conquered Westeros with only three dragons. The repeatedly-demonstrated cunning Varys points out the Westerosi would have nowhere to hide if they are attacked by dragons. However, Tywin contemptuously brushes off his grandson's concerns by asserting that dragons have been extinct for centuries and even if Daenerys does have dragons, they are small curiosities on the far side of the world and no threat to Joffrey's rule. But Daenerys has in fact conquered every city in Essos she's visited, her three dragons are each already powerful enough to roast men alive, she has two highly-experienced fighters as advisers, and she also commands a powerful army. Lord Tywin eventually ends up sharing Joffrey's concerns when his intelligence on her is updated.
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** Season Three: When consulting his grandfather [[MagnificentBastard Tywin]] in the throne room, Joffrey voices his concerns about Daenerys Targaryen and her three dragons. Three centuries before, Aegon Targaryen conquered Westeros with only three dragons. The repeatedly-demonstrated cunning Varys points out the Westerosi would have nowhere to hide if they are attacked by dragons. However, Tywin contemptuously brushes off his grandson's concerns by asserting that dragons have been extinct for centuries and even if Daenerys does have dragons, they are small curiosities on the far side of the world and no threat to Joffrey's rule. But When consulting his grandfather [[MagnificentBastard Tywin]] in the throne room, Joffrey voices his concerns about Daenerys Targaryen and her dragons. This is understandable as dragons were used by the Valyrians to carve out a massive empire before their extinction thousands of years ago. However, Tywin brushes off his grandson's concerns by asserting that dragons have been extinct for centuries and even if Daenerys does have dragons, they are on the far side of the world and no threat to Joffrey's rule. As is shown in the books, this is obviously not the case - Daenerys has in fact conquered every ''every city in Essos she's visited, visited.'' At the moment she commands not only her three dragons are each dragons(less than three years old but the biggest already powerful enough to single-handedly roast men alive, she has alive - and the same number which permitted her ancestor to conquer Westeros) and two highly-experienced fighters as advisers, fighters, but ''eight thousand fully trained and she also commands a powerful army. Lord suicidally loyal soldiers.'' When Tywin eventually ends up sharing Joffrey's concerns when gets around to updating his intelligence on her knowledge of her, he agrees that Daenerys is updated.an incredible threat. [[spoiler:Of course, Joffrey isn't around to bask in it]].
11th Jan '16 11:37:03 AM maestro_89
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* HiddenDepths: Despite his absolutely disgusting behavior and actions; Joffrey has some qualities that are hard to notice. When he talks with Margaery Tyrell he can recite facts about many members of the Targaeryn Dynasty without so much as skipping a beat, likewise he shows an interest in the acts of many famed Kingsguard Knights and can easily recite information from a name by reading it alone. Tyrion for his credit notices Joffrey's love of history and gifts him a book of many great kings of the older ages.
1st Jan '16 7:10:15 PM ArcaneAzmadi
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* TheGoodKing: In "Breaker of Chains", he tells Tywin (with a bit of uncertainty) that he thinks he would be a good king. Tywin, for his part, informs him that he has the potential, though he clearly defines "good" in part as one who would listen to Tywin. Nonetheless, Tommen's ideas of being a good monarch (Holiness, Justice, Strength, and Wisdom) speak volumes about the kind of ruler he might be. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, "The Sons Of The Harpy" reveal that too little experience and too much time as a puppet to Tywin, Margaery and Cersei have left him incapable of ruling effectively: when the Faith Militant rises up again and imprisons Loras, Tommen is too indecisive and fearful to really take action against them. Then Margaery gets taken away as well and Tommen doesn't do anything.]]
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* TheGoodKing: In "Breaker of Chains", he tells Tywin (with a bit of uncertainty) that he thinks he would be a good king. Tywin, for his part, informs him that he has the potential, though he clearly defines "good" in part as one who would listen to Tywin. Nonetheless, Tommen's ideas of being a good monarch (Holiness, Justice, Strength, and Wisdom) speak volumes about the kind of ruler he might be. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, "The Sons Of The Harpy" reveal that too little experience and too much time as a puppet to Tywin, Margaery and Cersei have left him incapable of ruling effectively: when the Faith Militant rises up again and imprisons Loras, Tommen is too indecisive and fearful to really take action against them. Then Margaery gets taken away as well and Tommen doesn't do anything.]]]] But at least he's trying.
28th Dec '15 3:21:38 AM Cantido
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** In Season 3, Joffrey complains that Tywin is not sufficiently concerned that Daenerys Targaryen and her three dragons are the primary threat to Westeros. He isn't wrong, but it comes off as him simply finding the dragons more interesting that people.
27th Nov '15 11:32:49 PM Vox
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* EvilCannotComprehendGood: He is baffled when Margaery stops to donate some toys and spend time with the children in an orphanage of [[WretchedHive Flea Bottom]]. During dinner, we hear Joffrey speak of her work (in a positive light, mind you) as if charity were some strange and obscure concept. When Jack Gleeson was asked in an interview what sort of thing Joffrey would ''never'' do, he has to think hard before responding with "charity work" instead of something vile.
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* EvilCannotComprehendGood: He is baffled when Margaery stops to donate some toys and spend time with the children in an orphanage of [[WretchedHive Flea Bottom]]. During dinner, we hear Joffrey speak of her work (in a positive light, mind you) as if charity were some strange and obscure obscure, but totally alien concept. When Jack Gleeson was asked in an interview what sort of thing Joffrey would ''never'' do, he has to think hard before responding with "charity work" instead of something vile.
26th Oct '15 2:09:41 PM wootzits
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"Right reasons"?
* HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday: A r**ather strange example of this. Despite his overall [[HeManWomanHater misogyny]] and [[{{Asexuality}} lack of interest in romance]], Joffrey frequently makes vocal displays of how he plans to consummate his marriage with Sansa. * HeManWomanHater: He has shades of this. He genuinely doesn't seem to like ''any'' girls (or anyone, for that matter) for the right reasons. He resents his ArrangedMarriage to Sansa in the first season, abuses her and a pair of prostitutes in the second, and when pushed even Cersei, the only woman he seems to have any respect for, is not above his threats and insults. Scarily, the ''only'' time he does seem to show genuine interest in a woman is when Margaery is expressing interest in killing things.
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* HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday: A r**ather rather strange example of this. Despite his overall [[HeManWomanHater misogyny]] and [[{{Asexuality}} lack of interest in romance]], Joffrey frequently makes vocal displays of how he plans to consummate his marriage with Sansa. * HeManWomanHater: He has shades of this. He genuinely doesn't seem to like ''any'' girls (or anyone, for that matter) for the right reasons.matter). He resents his ArrangedMarriage to Sansa in the first season, abuses her and a pair of prostitutes in the second, and when pushed even Cersei, the only woman he seems to have any respect for, is not above his threats and insults. Scarily, the ''only'' time he does seem to show genuine interest in a woman is when Margaery is expressing interest in killing things.
25th Oct '15 12:31:56 PM Agronac919
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* BigBadWannabe: Despite being an undeniably monstrous character, Joffrey is only a threat because his title allows him to make frequent [[StupidEvil stupid and sadistic decisions]] without fear of repercussion. It's clear that if not for the cunning machinations of his uncle, [[GuileHero Tyrion]], and grandfather, [[DragonInChief Tywin]], Joffrey would have ended up a head on a pike a long time ago.

* BigBadWannabe: Despite being an undeniably monstrous character, Joffrey is only a threat because his title allows him to make frequent [[StupidEvil stupid and sadistic decisions]] without fear of repercussion. It's clear that if not for the cunning machinations of his uncle, [[GuileHero Tyrion]], and grandfather, [[DragonInChief Tywin]], Joffrey would have ended up a head on a pike a long time ago.
23rd Sep '15 11:53:09 PM Kalaong
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** Season Three: When consulting his grandfather [[MagnificentBastard Tywin]] in the throne room, Joffrey voices his concerns about Daenerys Targaryen and her dragons. The Targaryens conquered Westeros with relative ease thanks to their dragons, and the repeatedly-demonstated cunning Varys points out the Westerosi would have nowhere to hide if they are attacked by dragons. However, Tywin contemptuously brushes off his grandson's concerns by asserting that dragons have been extinct for centuries and even if Daenerys does have dragons, they are small curiosities on the far side of the world and no threat to Joffrey's rule. But Daenerys is in fact conquering cities in Essos, aided by two highly-experienced fighters, her three dragons are each already powerful enough to roast men alive and she also commands a powerful army. Lord Tywin eventually ends up sharing Joffrey's concerns when his intelligence on her is updated.
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** Season Three: When consulting his grandfather [[MagnificentBastard Tywin]] in the throne room, Joffrey voices his concerns about Daenerys Targaryen and her three dragons. The Targaryens Three centuries before, Aegon Targaryen conquered Westeros with relative ease thanks to their dragons, and the repeatedly-demonstated only three dragons. The repeatedly-demonstrated cunning Varys points out the Westerosi would have nowhere to hide if they are attacked by dragons. However, Tywin contemptuously brushes off his grandson's concerns by asserting that dragons have been extinct for centuries and even if Daenerys does have dragons, they are small curiosities on the far side of the world and no threat to Joffrey's rule. But Daenerys is has in fact conquering cities conquered every city in Essos, aided by two highly-experienced fighters, Essos she's visited, her three dragons are each already powerful enough to roast men alive alive, she has two highly-experienced fighters as advisers, and she also commands a powerful army. Lord Tywin eventually ends up sharing Joffrey's concerns when his intelligence on her is updated.
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