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28th Apr '17 11:05:18 PM jenmic
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** His death drips with irony. As Joffrey's openly misogynistic behavior and distaste for "the wailing of women" is, he dies listening to his mother's cries as he slowly suffocates thanks to [[spoiler: Olenna Tyrell, a woman]]. Despite thinking "everyone is mine to torture," his treatment of his favorite ChewToy Sansa directly leads to the motive of his assassination.

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** His death drips with irony. As Joffrey's openly misogynistic behavior and distaste for "the wailing of women" is, he dies listening to his mother's cries as he slowly suffocates thanks to [[spoiler: Olenna Tyrell, a woman]]. Despite thinking "everyone is mine to torture," torment," his treatment of his favorite ChewToy Sansa directly leads to the motive of his assassination.
23rd Apr '17 8:26:27 AM Eievie
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3rd Apr '17 4:19:01 PM BB8ForPresident
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* WomenAreWiser: She perfectly balances her siblings' most defining traits. She's assertive, but not to the point of being a cruel asshole like Joffrey. She's kind and passionate, but not to the point of being a pushover like Tommen. She's also the only shown to figure out her true parentage on her own.

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* WomenAreWiser: She perfectly balances her siblings' most defining traits. She's assertive, but not to the point of being a cruel asshole like Joffrey. She's kind and passionate, but not to the point of being a pushover like Tommen. She's also the only shown to figure out her true parentage on her own. Unfortunately, despite this making her Baratheon sibling who would be the best ruler, the fact she's a woman actually puts her last in the succession.
29th Mar '17 6:19:05 PM DoctorNemesis
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* SmallNameBigEgo: He somehow manages to be this despite being King. For all his preening and throwing his weight around, it's immediately obvious to everyone that he's completely inept and out of his depth, and if it wasn't for his grandfather and uncle acting as TheManBehindTheMan he'd have been overthrown and impaled on a pike long ago.
28th Mar '17 6:46:36 PM DoctorNemesis
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* BadassBoast: Subverted; he's fond of reminding everyone that he's the King in a fashion that suggests he expects them to so overcome by his otherworldly awesomeness that they start bowing and scraping to him instinctively, but in truth whenever he does so it only really seems to underscore how ultimately petty, inadequate and out of his depth he really is. After all, as his grandfather points out to him, a 'powerful' man who constantly feels the need to remind everyone how powerful he is in truth is not very powerful at all.
-->'''Joffrey:''' You are talking ''to the King!''\\
'''Tyrion:''' ''[Gives him a smack]'' And now I've just ''struck'' a King! Did my hand fall from my wrist?
27th Mar '17 6:51:35 PM DoctorNemesis
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* FatalFlaw: Where to begin, really, but his cruelty, pettiness, impulsiveness and lack of intelligence are definitely up there. He throws his weight around and needlessly antagonises people whom he actually depends on, has a lot of enemies gunning for him as a result of his viciousness and it is explicitly mentioned by those who actually do conspire to murder him that if he had been a bit kinder or at least a bit smarter and capable of suppressing his baser impulses they might actually have allowed him to live.
17th Mar '17 12:08:08 PM TywinIsGod
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* GoneHorriblyWrong: Tywin's first lesson to Tommen about being king is wisdom, specifically the wisdom to know when someone else knows more than you do. This is a not-so-subtle attempt by Tywin to set himself up as the power behind the throne. However, Tywin dies not long after, so the indecisive Tommen is left with people who only want to manipulate him for their own gain, making him an even bigger PuppetKing than his brother. As a result of the machinations of the High Sparrow and his StupidEvil mother, King's Landing is well on its way to becoming a theocracy, with Tommen having been easily conned into enabling it because no one has taught him to stand up for himself.

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* GoneHorriblyWrong: Tywin's first lesson to Tommen about being king is wisdom, specifically the wisdom to know when someone else knows more than you do. This is a not-so-subtle attempt by Tywin to set himself up as the power behind the throne. However, Tywin dies not long after, so the indecisive Tommen is left with people who only want to manipulate him for their own gain, gain [[BitchInSheepsClothing including Margarey]], making him an even bigger PuppetKing than his brother. As a result of the machinations of the High Sparrow and his StupidEvil mother, King's Landing is well on its way to becoming a theocracy, with Tommen having been easily conned into enabling it because no one has taught him to stand up for himself.
17th Mar '17 12:07:11 PM TywinIsGod
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** As such, the list of suspects for his murder is more or less "anyone ''other than Cersei who had the opportunity''" since pretty much everyone in Westeros had a motive. Olenna Tyrell and Littlefinger are the ones WhoMurderedTheAsshole, and they admit to their confidants that they killed Joffrey specifically because he was an asshole. If he had been nicer and smarter, he'd still be alive.

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** As such, the list of suspects for his murder is more or less "anyone ''other than Cersei who had the opportunity''" since pretty much everyone in Westeros had a motive. Olenna Tyrell and Littlefinger are the ones WhoMurderedTheAsshole, and they admit to their confidants that they killed Joffrey specifically because he was an asshole.horrible. If he had been nicer and smarter, he'd still be alive.



* DirtyCoward: He acts tough, particularly when he is certain of being in a position of authority, but when Arya points a sword at him he cries like a baby. There's also the scene when Tyrion bitch-slaps him, repeatedly, for his mocking refusal to at least pay lip service to the Starks. Then in the second season, not only does he not do anything when Tyrion outright calls him a "vicious idiot king", but Tyrion gets away with slapping him ''again'' and mockingly asks if his hand had fallen from his wrist. He panics very quickly during the Battle of the Blackwater and runs off when he hears that his mother has called for him, his voice visibly cracking as he does so.

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* DirtyCoward: He acts tough, particularly when he is certain of being in a position of authority, but when Arya points a sword at him he cries like a baby.baby (to be fair she had her direwolf helping her). There's also the scene when Tyrion bitch-slaps him, repeatedly, for his mocking refusal to at least pay lip service to the Starks. Then in the second season, not only does he not do anything when Tyrion outright calls him a "vicious idiot king", but Tyrion gets away with slapping him ''again'' and mockingly asks if his hand had fallen from his wrist. He panics very quickly during the Battle of the Blackwater and runs off when he hears that his mother has called for him, his voice visibly cracking as he does so.so, although he was reluctant to leave at that point.



* PetTheDog: For all his sadism, he seems to have some genuine love for Robert Baratheon, going as far as praising him over Tywin for winning the war against the Targaryens... even if said love for his supposed father is what may have fueled his penchant for wanton cruelty. He is still a Jerkass when he is saying that, but Robert's memory seems to be one of the few things he is willing to treat respectfully.

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* PetTheDog: For all his sadism, he seems to have some genuine love for Robert Baratheon, going as far as praising him over Tywin for winning the war against the Targaryens... even if said love for his supposed father is what may have fueled his penchant for wanton cruelty. He is still a Jerkass towards his grandfather when he is saying that, but Robert's memory seems to be one of the few things he is willing to treat respectfully.
15th Mar '17 6:32:28 PM karategal
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** Season One: He points out how counter-productive a feudal system is towards maintaining a strong, centralised state and suggests forming a nationalised military loyal to the state itself. While a fair observation in itself (given that it's the reason half the country currently wants to kill him), his solutions towards implementing such a system are less well-thought out.
** Season Two: He points out that with the Greyjoys tearing at Robb Stark's flank, an attack by the Lannisters would wipe them out. He's right, but he's also forgetting the ''small'' fact that Stannis Baratheon is about to hit King's Landing very much the way a sledgehammer hits an egg.
** Season Three: When consulting his grandfather [[MagnificentBastard Tywin]] in the throne room, Joffrey voices his concerns about Daenerys Targaryen and her three dragons. Three centuries before, Aegon Targaryen conquered Westeros with only three dragons. The repeatedly-demonstrated cunning Varys points out the Westerosi would have nowhere to hide if they are attacked by dragons. However, Tywin contemptuously brushes off his grandson's concerns by asserting that dragons have been extinct for centuries and even if Daenerys does have dragons, they are small curiosities on the far side of the world and no threat to Joffrey's rule. As is shown in the books, this is obviously not the case - Daenerys has in fact conquered ''every city in Essos she's visited.'' At the moment she commands not only her three dragons (less than three years old but the biggest already powerful enough to single-handedly roast men alive) and two highly-experienced fighters, but ''eight thousand fully trained and suicidally loyal soldiers.'' When Tywin gets around to updating his knowledge of her, he agrees that Daenerys is an incredible threat. [[spoiler:Of course, Joffrey isn't around to bask in it]].

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** Season One: 1: He points out how counter-productive a feudal system is towards maintaining a strong, centralised state and suggests forming a nationalised military loyal to the state itself. While a fair observation in itself (given that it's the reason half the country currently wants to kill him), his solutions towards implementing such a system are less well-thought out.
** Season Two: 2: He points out that with the Greyjoys tearing at Robb Stark's flank, an attack by the Lannisters would wipe them out. He's right, but he's also forgetting the ''small'' fact that Stannis Baratheon is about to hit King's Landing very much the way a sledgehammer hits an egg.
** Season Three: 3: When consulting his grandfather [[MagnificentBastard Tywin]] in the throne room, Joffrey voices his concerns about Daenerys Targaryen and her three dragons. Three centuries before, Aegon Targaryen conquered Westeros with only three dragons. The repeatedly-demonstrated cunning Varys points out the Westerosi would have nowhere to hide if they are attacked by dragons. However, Tywin contemptuously brushes off his grandson's concerns by asserting that dragons have been extinct for centuries and even if Daenerys does have dragons, they are small curiosities on the far side of the world and no threat to Joffrey's rule. As is shown in the books, this is obviously not the case - -- Daenerys has in fact conquered ''every city in Essos she's visited.'' At the moment moment, she commands not only her three dragons (less than three years old but the biggest already powerful enough to single-handedly roast men alive) and two highly-experienced fighters, but ''eight thousand fully trained and suicidally loyal soldiers.'' When Tywin gets around to updating his knowledge of her, he agrees that Daenerys is an incredible threat. [[spoiler:Of course, Joffrey isn't around to bask in it]].



* DramaticIrony: Back in Season 1, Jaime pushed Bran Stark out of a tower window to protect the secret of Joffrey, Myrcella, and Tommen's [[SiblingIncest true parentage]]. How does Tommen [[spoiler: die several years later in Season 6? By jumping out of tower window]].

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* DramaticIrony: Back in Season 1, Jaime pushed Bran Stark out of a tower window to protect the secret of Joffrey, Myrcella, and Tommen's [[SiblingIncest true parentage]]. How does Tommen [[spoiler: die several years later in Season 6? By jumping out of a tower window]].
15th Mar '17 6:29:44 PM karategal
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* AgeLift: Upon being recast, Tommen seems to have aged by three or four years (from age eight to nine in ''A Storm of Swords'' to apparently twelve on the show). This is probably to reduce the {{Squick}} associated with his relationship to his betrothed, the much older and very sexy Margaery (who herself was, somewhat ironically, also subject to an AgeLift, from 16-17 to mid-20's). If we go by the fact that he was 9 in the 1st Season (Tommen was 7 in the first book), and consider the greater timeframe covered by demand of PragmaticAdaptation (about a year per season), then that makes him 12 when Season 4 comes into play. Dean-Charles Chapman is a year or two older, true, but so are Sansa, Arya and Bran's respective actors.

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* AgeLift: Upon being recast, Tommen seems to have aged by three or four years (from age eight to nine in ''A Storm of Swords'' to apparently twelve on the show). This is probably to reduce the {{Squick}} associated with his relationship to his betrothed, the much older and very sexy Margaery (who herself was, somewhat ironically, also subject to an AgeLift, from 16-17 to mid-20's). If we go by the fact that he was 9 in the 1st Season (Tommen was 7 in the first book), and consider the greater timeframe covered by demand of PragmaticAdaptation (about a year per season), then that makes him 12 when Season 4 comes into play. Dean-Charles Chapman is a year or two older, true, but so are Sansa, Arya Arya, and Bran's respective actors.



* DramaticIrony: Back in Season 1, Jaime pushed Bran Stark out of a tower window to protect the secret of Joffrey, Myrcella, and Tommen's [[SiblingIncest true parentage]]. How does Tommen [[spoiler: die several years later in Season 6? By jumping out of tower window]].



* LastOfHisKind: Due to the deaths of Robert, Renly, Joffrey, Shireen, Stannis and Myrcella he is the last Baratheon (though not biologically), [[spoiler: and with his suicide the Baratheon line has officially been snuffed out.]]

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* LastOfHisKind: Due to the deaths of Robert, Renly, Joffrey, Shireen, Stannis Stannis, and Myrcella Myrcella, he is the last Baratheon (though not biologically), [[spoiler: and with his suicide the Baratheon line has officially been snuffed out.]]



* TheUnfavorite: Cersei spoiled Joffrey and repeatedly stated that she missed Myrcella, bitter and angry that Tyrion sent her to Dorne. When the latter two died, she was heartbroken. Tommen on the other hand rarely gets much open affection from her mother, who repeatedly condescends to him and [[spoiler:while Cersei spared him from going to the Sept, she doesn't seem too miffed that Tommen committed suicide. This probably explains why Tommen was such a pushover, he was always looking for some form of open affection and attention]].

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* TheUnfavorite: Cersei spoiled Joffrey and repeatedly stated that she missed Myrcella, bitter and angry that Tyrion sent her to Dorne. When the latter two died, she was heartbroken. Tommen on the other hand rarely gets much open affection from her his mother, who repeatedly condescends to him and [[spoiler:while Cersei spared him from going to the Sept, she doesn't seem too miffed that Tommen committed suicide. This probably explains why Tommen was such a pushover, he was always looking for some form of open affection and attention]].
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