History Characters / GameOfThronesHouseBaratheonOfKingsLanding

23rd Jun '16 5:51:32 PM TheRoguePenguin
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* TookALevelInBadass: Season 6 sees him gaining an urge to grow stronger, acknowledging that he should have executed the High Sparrow a long time ago. Subverted as his attempt to step up makes him someone else's pawn. [[RealityEnsues A kid raised to be a puppet has no chance in a place full of schemer no matter how much he wants to e strong.]]

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* TookALevelInBadass: Season 6 sees him gaining an urge to grow stronger, acknowledging that he should have executed the High Sparrow a long time ago. Subverted as his attempt to step up makes him someone else's pawn. [[RealityEnsues A kid raised to be a puppet has no chance in a place full of schemer no matter how much he wants to e be strong.]]



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19th Jun '16 9:05:28 AM trixus
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* TookALevelInBadass: Season 6 sees him gaining an urge to grow stronger, acknowledging that he should have executed the High Sparrow a long time ago. Subverted as his attempt to step up makes him someone else's pawn.

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* TookALevelInBadass: Season 6 sees him gaining an urge to grow stronger, acknowledging that he should have executed the High Sparrow a long time ago. Subverted as his attempt to step up makes him someone else's pawn. [[RealityEnsues A kid raised to be a puppet has no chance in a place full of schemer no matter how much he wants to e strong.]]
19th Jun '16 8:44:13 AM Saveelich
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16th Jun '16 5:44:33 PM trixus
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* TookALevelInBadass: Season 6 sees him gaining an urge to grow stronger, acknowledging that he should have executed the High Sparrow a long time ago.

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* TookALevelInBadass: Season 6 sees him gaining an urge to grow stronger, acknowledging that he should have executed the High Sparrow a long time ago. Subverted as his attempt to step up makes him someone else's pawn.
15th Jun '16 6:40:12 PM silentheartsong
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* TheGoodKing: Subverted. Tommen's ideas of the virtues a good monarch (Holiness, Justice, Strength, and Wisdom) speak volumes about the kind of ruler he might be. However, his lack of experience means prevents him from being effective in any of these areas. Tywin wastes no time convincing Tommen that true wisdom is recognizing when others know things you do not, which allows pretty much anyone to manipulate them. When the Faith Militant rises up again and imprisons Loras, Tommen is too indecisive and fearful to really take action against them. Then Margaery gets taken away as well and Tommen doesn't do anything. Then he further allows the Faith Militant to basically take over the crown and constantly change the laws of the Kingdom. While Joffery was a terrible king because he subjected the kingdom to his cruel whims without concern for the consequences, Tommen is so indecisive that the kingdom is instead subject to the whims of everyone but him.

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* TheGoodKing: Subverted. Tommen's ideas of the virtues a good monarch (Holiness, Justice, Strength, and Wisdom) speak volumes about the kind of ruler he might be. However, his lack of experience means prevents him from being effective in any of these areas. Tywin wastes no time convincing Tommen that true wisdom is recognizing when others know things you do not, which allows pretty much anyone to manipulate them. When the Faith Militant rises up again and imprisons Loras, Tommen is too indecisive and fearful to really take action against them. Then Margaery gets taken away as well and Tommen doesn't do anything. Then he further allows the Faith Militant to basically take over the crown and constantly change the laws of the Kingdom. While Joffery was a terrible king because he subjected the kingdom to his cruel whims without concern for the consequences, Tommen is so indecisive that the kingdom is instead subject to the whims of everyone but him.
15th Jun '16 6:38:04 PM silentheartsong
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* PuppetKing: Is considered this by Tywin and the Tyrells, due to the fact he lacks Joffrey's arrogance, stupidity, insanity, sadism, delusions of grandeur, etc., and also because he genuinely wants to be a good, wise king. Tywin in particular is also pleased at how much easier he will be to control, but at the very least Tommen's temperament if he ''does'' somehow defy Tywin sure beats Joffrey's whenever he wasn't checked by Tywin. When he is on his own, he is clearly out of his depths at ruling, making the Faith Militant the de facto ruler of King's Landing.

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* PuppetKing: Is considered this by Tywin and the Tyrells, due to the fact he Deconstructed. He lacks Joffrey's arrogance, stupidity, insanity, sadism, delusions of grandeur, etc., and also because he genuinely wants to be a good, wise king. Tywin in particular is also pleased at how much easier he will be to control, but at the very least Tommen's temperament if he ''does'' somehow defy Tywin sure beats Joffrey's whenever he wasn't checked by Tywin. When he is knowledge to rule on his own, and the only parties who could teach him want to control him for their own reasons; as a result, he is clearly very easily manipulated. The problem with this, as the Small Council finds out, is that ''anyone'' can manipulate him; while the Small Council insists on leaving him out of his depths at ruling, making meetings while they make their plans, the High Sparrow swoops in and wins him over to the Faith Militant Militant's cause, which ruins everything the de facto ruler of King's Landing.Small Council had planned. Anyone can pick up a puppet's strings if they're left lying around, after all...
14th Jun '16 9:44:49 AM TheRoguePenguin
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* GoneHorriblyWrong: Tywin wants to teach him wisdom and the first lesson is about admitting your inexperience. Sadly, Tywin dies before teaching him anything else like how to ''gain'' experience, making him too indecisive and letting people with more experience in ruling (real or pretended) manipulate him. Tommen is in trouble for being a naive pawn in the game of thrones from the start, but having "delegate when out of depths" as only advice makes him the easiest PuppetKing ever.

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* GoneHorriblyWrong: Tywin wants to teach him wisdom and the Tywin's first lesson is to Tommen about admitting your inexperience. Sadly, being king is wisdom, specifically the wisdom to know when someone else knows more than you do. This is a not-so-subtle attempt by Tywin to set himself up as the power behind the throne. However, Tywin dies before teaching not long after, so the indecisive Tommen is left with people who only want to manipulate him anything else like how to ''gain'' experience, for their own gain, making him too indecisive and letting people with more experience in ruling (real or pretended) manipulate him. Tommen is in trouble for being a naive pawn in the game of thrones from the start, but having "delegate when out of depths" as only advice makes him the easiest an even bigger PuppetKing ever.than his brother. As a result of the machinations of the High Sparrow and his StupidEvil mother, King's Landing is well on its way to becoming a theocracy, with Tommen having been easily conned into enabling it because no one has taught him to stand up for himself.
14th Jun '16 12:44:59 AM TrollBrutal
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* GoneHorriblyWrong: Tywin's wants to teach him wisdom and the first lesson is about admitting your inexperience. Sadly, Tywin dies before teaching him anything else like how to ''gain'' experience, making him too indecisive and letting people with more experience (or that tells him they are) in ruling manipulate him. Tommen is in trouble for being a naive pawn in the game of thrones from the start, but having "delegate when out of depths" as only advice makes him the easiest PuppetKing ever.

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* GoneHorriblyWrong: Tywin's Tywin wants to teach him wisdom and the first lesson is about admitting your inexperience. Sadly, Tywin dies before teaching him anything else like how to ''gain'' experience, making him too indecisive and letting people with more experience (or that tells him they are) in ruling (real or pretended) manipulate him. Tommen is in trouble for being a naive pawn in the game of thrones from the start, but having "delegate when out of depths" as only advice makes him the easiest PuppetKing ever.
14th Jun '16 12:36:44 AM TrollBrutal
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* GoneHorriblyWrong: Tywin's wanted to teach him wisdom and the first lesson was to admit your inexperience, sadly Tywin died before teaching him anything else like how to ''gain'' experience, making him too indecisive and letting people with more experience (or that tells him they are)in ruling manipulate him. Tommen was already in trouble for being the best pawn in the game of throne but having "delegate when out of depths" as only advice made him the easiest PuppetKing ever.

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* GoneHorriblyWrong: Tywin's wanted wants to teach him wisdom and the first lesson was to admit is about admitting your inexperience, sadly inexperience. Sadly, Tywin died dies before teaching him anything else like how to ''gain'' experience, making him too indecisive and letting people with more experience (or that tells him they are)in are) in ruling manipulate him. Tommen was already is in trouble for being the best a naive pawn in the game of throne thrones from the start, but having "delegate when out of depths" as only advice made makes him the easiest PuppetKing ever.
13th Jun '16 7:15:00 PM trixus
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* GoneHorriblyWrong: Tywin's wanted to teach him wisdom and the first lesson was to admit your inexperience, sadly Tywin died before teaching him anything else like how to ''gain'' experience, making him too indecisive and letting people with more experience (or that tells him they are)in ruling manipulate him. Tommen was already in trouble for being the best pawn in the game of throne but having "delegate when out of depths" as only advice made him the easiest PuppetKing ever.
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