History BrotherSisterIncest / CodeGeass

3rd Jul '14 3:30:57 AM EarlOfSandvich
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29th Nov '12 5:33:06 PM Crinias
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* In ''CodeGeass'' Lelouch admits that his half-sister Euphemia was the closest thing he had to a first love and his relationship with full-sister Nunnally is considered suspicious both by people in the actual show and by fans of the series. However, it should be noted that Lelouch is a CelibateHero who has shown little interest in sex, despite spending plenty of time around Kallen and C.C, and a years long friendship with Milly Ashford, who not only practically screams "sexual deviant", but repeatedly drops hints that she wants to get into Lelouch's pants - though it seems to come out more easily when Milly is wearing a dress - AND she has the biggest bust size in the series, even bigger than Lelouch's mother's.
** It depends on [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation how suspicious an outlook on the characters you have]], in the case of Euphie, at least. It's not much of a stretch to imagine that the other princes and princesses were the only kids their age that the children of Charles Brittannia regularly saw while growing up. And Lelouch last saw Euphie at age 10, roughly. It's not too different from a little girl saying she wants to marry her daddy.
** [[spoiler: For someone who 'loathes' Lelouch eventually, Nunnally is rather devastated by his death. Their perhaps excessively feverish declarations of love as he expires are suspicious as well. And not only that, but she doesn't hate Zero, either... at least until she learns that he mind controlled Euphemia.]]
*** [[spoiler: One could argue that it's because when she touched him in his dying moments, the memories he had of the reasons he did everything flashed through her mind, hence her devastation.]]
*** When everything ends and Nunnally knows what really occurred, she states that the only thing she wanted was to stay with him. Yes, she'd rather share with him a life of fallen princes in a fascist empire than being the universally loved [[spoiler:Empress]] in a peaceful world.
** One could also add in the fact that, when Nunnally reunites with Eupie, one of the things they discuss is the argument they had over which one of them would eventually marry Lelouch.
* Although they are not related by blood, Rolo is VERY openly infatuated with his big brother, which Lelouch [[PsychoticSmirk rather sadistically]] [[ManipulativeBastard takes advantage of]] to deceive Rolo into joining his side. He calls it "playing a 'game of brothers'".
* It's revealed that the Emperor got it on with hundreds of mistresses, and Lelouch has Half-Sisters and Half-Brothers all over the world. Every member of royalty who isn't the Emperor himself or the women who gave birth to them are all related to each other through the Emperor's blood alone. Despite all sharing the same father, it's not really frowned upon for the royal bloodline to hook up because of this.
** Actually, it just says he had a lot of kids, there is no evidence other royals are part of the family. Also, nobody in the royal family has hooked up like that.
* Lulu isn't the only member of their big [[SarcasmMode happy family]] whose brother-sister scenes have a weirdly incestuous subtext: Schneizel openly flirts with Cornelia, and Cornelia hovers over Euphie in much the same way Lelouch hovers over Nunnally. Then there's Cornelia's [[http://video.adultswim.com/code-geass/abuse-of-refrain.html lightly touching Euphemia]].
** There's some of this between Schneizel and his younger brother Lelouch as well. For example, Schneizel refers to Lelouch as the man he loves and fears the most.
* Bear in mind that this ''is'' the [[BigScrewedUpFamily Britannian royal family]] we're talking about here, and historically incest has been common among royalty. To take one extreme: Egyptian (and after Alexander the Great, Macedonian) pharaohs were '''expected''' to [[BrotherSisterIncest marry their sisters]]. The numerous members being insane could easily be due to the family having massive genetic disorders like the Habsburg family.
** What's more, genetic sexual attraction is a real issue. Charles has had tons of children by tons of different women-- so many that not all of them could be kids together. So these two related adults just come together in this very sexual anime, and genetic sexual attraction does the rest.
** An unfortunate output eventually, in two words: Habsburg Syndrome.
* Played with in picture dramas. In 7.19 quite a portion of it relates to Nunnally and Lelouch, and Rivalz even refers to their love as a "questionable sibling love". Another parodies it in Shirley's dream sequence where Nunnally, along with [[IfItsYouItsOkay everyone]] [[EvenTheGuysWantHim else]], wants to marry Lelouch and says they're NotBloodRelated.
* The OVA of Nunnally of Wonderland had a moment in which Nunnally, playing Alice, turning small and having Lelouch commenting that he would put her inside his pocket and protect her from the world. And not to mention having him dress up as the Mad Hatter.
** Not to mention just about every other moment in Lelouch's side commentary about Nunnally.
* When Lelouch hypnotized Nunnally, he told her that he loved her. What's important though is that he explictly said "Aishiteru," which is a rather dramatic Japanese way of expressing romantic love (there are Japanese married couples who have never said this to each other).
** Nunnally used "aishite imasu", which is even more intense, [[spoiler:when he died]].
28th Oct '12 9:51:12 PM arisboch
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* Bear in mind that this ''is'' the [[BigScrewedUpFamily Britannian royal family]] we're talking about here, and historically incest has been common among royalty. To take one extreme: Egyptian (and after Alexander the Great, Macedonian) pharaohs were '''expected''' to [[BrotherSisterIncest marry their sisters]]. The numerous members being insane could easily be due to the family having massive genetic disorders like the Hapsburg family.

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* Bear in mind that this ''is'' the [[BigScrewedUpFamily Britannian royal family]] we're talking about here, and historically incest has been common among royalty. To take one extreme: Egyptian (and after Alexander the Great, Macedonian) pharaohs were '''expected''' to [[BrotherSisterIncest marry their sisters]]. The numerous members being insane could easily be due to the family having massive genetic disorders like the Hapsburg Habsburg family.



** An unfortunate output eventually, in two words: Hapsburg Syndrome.

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** An unfortunate output eventually, in two words: Hapsburg Habsburg Syndrome.
19th Oct '12 10:50:40 PM Pichukun
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* When Lelouch hypnotized Nunnally, he told her that he loved her. What's important though is that he explictly said "Aishiteru," which is a rather dramatic Japanese way of expressing romantic love (there are Japanese married couples who have never said this to each other).

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* When Lelouch hypnotized Nunnally, he told her that he loved her. What's important though is that he explictly said "Aishiteru," which is a rather dramatic Japanese way of expressing romantic love (there are Japanese married couples who have never said this to each other).other).
** Nunnally used "aishite imasu", which is even more intense, [[spoiler:when he died]].
16th Oct '12 1:09:33 AM willynilly91
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** Not to mention just about every other moment in Lelouch's side commentary about Nunnally.

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** Not to mention just about every other moment in Lelouch's side commentary about Nunnally.Nunnally.
* When Lelouch hypnotized Nunnally, he told her that he loved her. What's important though is that he explictly said "Aishiteru," which is a rather dramatic Japanese way of expressing romantic love (there are Japanese married couples who have never said this to each other).
12th Oct '12 7:52:16 PM Trudos
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* The OVA of Nunnally of Wonderland had a moment in which Nunnally, playing Alice, turning small and having Lelouch commenting that he would put her inside his pocket and protect her from the world. And not to mention having him dress up as the Mad Hatter.

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* The OVA of Nunnally of Wonderland had a moment in which Nunnally, playing Alice, turning small and having Lelouch commenting that he would put her inside his pocket and protect her from the world. And not to mention having him dress up as the Mad Hatter.Hatter.
** Not to mention just about every other moment in Lelouch's side commentary about Nunnally.
21st Sep '12 6:21:50 AM Kiereth
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** It depends on [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation how suspicious an outlook on the characters you have]], in the case of Euphie, at least. It's not much of a stretch to imagine that the other princes and princesses were the only kids their age that the children of Charles Brittannia regularly saw while growing up. And Lelouch last saw Euphie at age 10, roughly. It's not too different from a little girl saying she wants to marry her daddy.



* Lelouch is just a little too fond of Nunnally. Then of course there's the whole thing with Euphemia. There's even one scene where it appears that she's naked and just wearing Zero's cloak. What could that possibly mean?
** For the latter, it means that her clothes were drying out (she evidently swam to shore) and Lelouch lent her the cape instead of having her walk around naked.
** For the latter, also one has to take into account, the last thing he says to her [[spoiler:when he killed her]], was "Goodbye, Euphie. You may have been the first girl I ever loved."
*** But consider the fact that the last time Lelouch saw Euphemia before the present time of the show was when he was about ten years old. He could very well have had a schoolboy crush on Euphemia when they were children growing up in the rather sheltered world of the royal family. She was a nice and friendly girl around his own age, and it's likely the only children they saw were their own half-siblings.
16th Sep '12 2:42:36 PM Alega5
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* Played with in picture dramas. In 7.19 quite a portion of it relates to Nunnally and Lelouch, and Rivalz even refers to their love as a "questionable sibling love". Another parodies it in Shirley's dream sequence where Nunnally, along with [[IfItsYouItsOkay everyone]] [[EvenTheGuysWantHim else]], wants to marry Lelouch and says they're NotBloodRelated.

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* Played with in picture dramas. In 7.19 quite a portion of it relates to Nunnally and Lelouch, and Rivalz even refers to their love as a "questionable sibling love". Another parodies it in Shirley's dream sequence where Nunnally, along with [[IfItsYouItsOkay everyone]] [[EvenTheGuysWantHim else]], wants to marry Lelouch and says they're NotBloodRelated.NotBloodRelated.
* The OVA of Nunnally of Wonderland had a moment in which Nunnally, playing Alice, turning small and having Lelouch commenting that he would put her inside his pocket and protect her from the world. And not to mention having him dress up as the Mad Hatter.
26th May '12 2:54:01 PM Barraki
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*** When everything ends and Nunnally knows what really occurred, she states that the only thing she wanted was to stay with him. Yes, she'd rather share with him a life of fallen princes in a fascist empire than being the universally loved [[spoiler:Empress]] in a peaceful world.
26th Feb '12 9:56:23 AM ChaoticDreams
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** There's some of this between Schneizel and his younger brother Lelouch as well. For example, Schneizel refers to Lelouch as the man he loves and fears the most.
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