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* The "okama" characters in general are either considered harmless fun, since a) plenty of men in canon are just as {{gonk}}y and goofy as they, and b) [[BewareTheSillyOnes being ridiculous in no way prevents them from being badasses]], or else they are loathed as hamfisted, politically incorrect stereotypes of trans women since they are universally depicted as {{camp}}y, extremely ugly, and very bad at presenting as female. Emporio Ivankov has his own entirely separate broken base in addition to overlapping with the general okama controversy. Some fans love Ivankov for being a giant kung-fu-fighting [[SexShifter gender-flipping]] [[Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Dr. Frank-N-Furter]], a concept that is so ridiculous it becomes awesome. Other fans loathe Ivankov either because Ivankov embodies negative stereotypes of trans women as not only perverse, but ''predatory'', because Ivankov is willing to [[AndIMustScream force sex-shifts on other people]] either as punishment for offending Ivankov or just to fill a whim, or for both reasons.

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* The "okama" characters in general are either considered harmless fun, since a) plenty of men in canon are just as {{gonk}}y and goofy as they, and b) [[BewareTheSillyOnes being ridiculous in no way prevents them from being badasses]], or else they are loathed as hamfisted, politically incorrect stereotypes of trans women since they are universally depicted as {{camp}}y, extremely ugly, and very bad at presenting as female. Emporio Ivankov has his own entirely separate broken base in addition to overlapping with the general okama controversy. Some fans love Ivankov for being a giant kung-fu-fighting [[SexShifter gender-flipping]] [[Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Dr. Frank-N-Furter]], a concept that is so ridiculous it becomes awesome. Other fans loathe Ivankov either because Ivankov embodies negative stereotypes of trans women as not only perverse, but ''predatory'', because Ivankov is willing to [[AndIMustScream [[ForcedTransformation force sex-shifts on other people]] either as punishment for offending Ivankov or just to fill a whim, or for both reasons.
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** This problem has escalated since the end of Wano as the story is now presumably getting into the final arcs, but new characters and factions are still being introduced. The biggest [[BaseBreakingCharacter base breaker]] among these are the Holy Knights (alternatively translated as Gods Knights), a group of Celestial Dragons trained in combat who are apparently quite powerful. Fans were immediately divided down the middle as this new group seemed to conflict with the existence of Admirals and the Gorosei and muddied who was meant to be the final QuirkyMiniBossSquad of the series. Others are simply excited to have new villains to look forward to seeing in action.
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''Manga/OnePiece'', being a very popular and long-running series with a large fanbase, has inevitably been at the center of some controversies that have polarized the fanbase. ''Be warned: all spoilers are unmarked!''




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''Manga/OnePiece'', being a very popular and long-running series with a large fanbase, has inevitably been at the center of some controversies that have polarized the fanbase. ''Be warned: all spoilers are unmarked!''
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* The increased sexualization of female characters post-TimeSkip; while {{Fanservice}} was originally just limited to occasional skimpy outfits, most prominent female characters now share an ImpossibleHourglassFigure. Some obviously enjoy the change, while others feel that the figures are too unnatural to the point of FetishRetardant. The anime drives this further, often ramping up bust sizes as well as giving them [[MaleGaze more attention]].

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* The increased sexualization of female characters post-TimeSkip; while {{Fanservice}} was originally just limited to occasional skimpy outfits, most prominent female characters now share an ImpossibleHourglassFigure. Some obviously enjoy the change, while others feel that the figures are too unnatural to the point of FetishRetardant.FetishRetardant, as well making all of the female characters feel repetitive in their designs. The anime drives this further, often ramping up bust sizes as well as giving them [[MaleGaze more attention]].
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* In the West, Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value -- Kaido and Luffy take this approach in canon without question, hence the usage of masculine terms such as ''musuko'' ("son") and ''bocchan'' ("young master"). Others treat Yamato as female in accordance with the character's introductory text box saying "daughter" as well as the epithet "Oni Princess" in a flashback and the male identity as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden rather than an innate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female while retaining Kiku's proclamation of "''kokoro wa onna''" (literally "[my] heart is a woman"), a phrasing commonly used to describe transgender people in Japanese. And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku goes into the women's bath. In both cases, Yamato and Kiku are accepted in the gendered bath of their choosing without objection. This has led to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic regarding Yamato and even caused Oda to be sent death threats on Twitter over the Vivre Card listing Yamato's gender as female, even more so after a color spread featuring all women included Yamato. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in canon.)

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* In the West, Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value -- Kaido and Luffy take this approach in canon without question, hence the usage of masculine terms such as ''musuko'' ("son") and ''bocchan'' ("young master"). Others treat Yamato as female in accordance with the character's introductory text box saying "daughter" as well as the epithet "Oni Princess" in a flashback and interpret the male identity as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden rather than an innate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female while retaining Kiku's proclamation of "''kokoro wa onna''" (literally "[my] heart is a woman"), a phrasing commonly used to describe transgender people in Japanese. And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku goes into the women's bath. In both cases, Yamato and Kiku are accepted in the gendered bath of their choosing without objection. This has led to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic regarding Yamato and even caused Oda to be sent death threats on Twitter over the Vivre Card listing Yamato's gender as female, even more so after a color spread featuring all women included Yamato. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in canon.)
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* In the West, Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value -- Kaido and Luffy take this approach in canon without question, hence the usage of masculine terms such as ''musuko'' ("son") and ''bocchan'' ("young master"). Others treat Yamato as female in accordance with the character's introductory text box saying "daughter" as well as the epithet "Oni Princess" in a flashback and the male identity as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden rather than an innate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female while retaining Kiku's proclamation of "''kokoro wa onna''" (literally "[my] heart is a woman"), a phrasing commonly used to describe transgender people in Japanese. And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku goes into the women's bath. In both cases, Yamato and Kiku are accepted in the gendered bath of their choosing without objection. This has led to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic regarding Yamato and even caused Oda to be sent death threats on Twitter over the Vivre Card listing Yamato's gender as female. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in canon.)

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* In the West, Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value -- Kaido and Luffy take this approach in canon without question, hence the usage of masculine terms such as ''musuko'' ("son") and ''bocchan'' ("young master"). Others treat Yamato as female in accordance with the character's introductory text box saying "daughter" as well as the epithet "Oni Princess" in a flashback and the male identity as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden rather than an innate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female while retaining Kiku's proclamation of "''kokoro wa onna''" (literally "[my] heart is a woman"), a phrasing commonly used to describe transgender people in Japanese. And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku goes into the women's bath. In both cases, Yamato and Kiku are accepted in the gendered bath of their choosing without objection. This has led to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic regarding Yamato and even caused Oda to be sent death threats on Twitter over the Vivre Card listing Yamato's gender as female.female, even more so after a color spread featuring all women included Yamato. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in canon.)
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* Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic at least in the West. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value -- Kaido and Luffy take this approach in canon without question, hence the usage of masculine terms such as ''musuko'' ("son") and ''bocchan'' ("young master"). Others treat Yamato as female in accordance with the character's introductory text box saying "daughter" as well as the epithet "Oni Princess" in a flashback and the male identity as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden rather than a separate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female while retaining Kiku's proclamation of being "female at heart". And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku, who has described herself with the phrase "''kokoro wa onna''" (literally "[my] heart is a woman"), which is commonly used to describe transgender people in Japanese, goes into the women's bath. In both cases, Yamato and Kiku are accepted in the gendered bath of their choosing without objection. This has led to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic regarding Yamato, and even caused Oda to be sent death threats on Twitter over the Vivre card listing Yamato's gender as female. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in canon.)

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* In the West, Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic at least in the West.topic. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value -- Kaido and Luffy take this approach in canon without question, hence the usage of masculine terms such as ''musuko'' ("son") and ''bocchan'' ("young master"). Others treat Yamato as female in accordance with the character's introductory text box saying "daughter" as well as the epithet "Oni Princess" in a flashback and the male identity as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden rather than a separate an innate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female while retaining Kiku's proclamation of being "female at heart"."''kokoro wa onna''" (literally "[my] heart is a woman"), a phrasing commonly used to describe transgender people in Japanese. And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku, who has described herself with the phrase "''kokoro wa onna''" (literally "[my] heart is a woman"), which is commonly used to describe transgender people in Japanese, Kiku goes into the women's bath. In both cases, Yamato and Kiku are accepted in the gendered bath of their choosing without objection. This has led to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic regarding Yamato, Yamato and even caused Oda to be sent death threats on Twitter over the Vivre card Card listing Yamato's gender as female. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in canon.)
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* Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic at least in the West. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value -- Kaido and Luffy take this approach in canon without question, hence the usage of masculine terms such as ''musuko'' ("son") and ''bocchan'' ("young master"). Others treat Yamato as female in accordance with the character's introductory text box saying "daughter" as well as the epithet "Oni Princess" in a flashback and the male identity as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden rather than a separate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female while retaining Kiku's proclamation of being "female at heart". And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku, who has described herself with the phrase "''kokoro wa onna''" (literally "[my] heart is a woman"), which is commonly used to describe transgender people in Japanese, goes into the women's bath. In both cases, Yamato and Kiku are accepted in the gendered bath of their choosing without objection. This has led to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic regarding Yamato. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in canon.)

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* Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic at least in the West. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value -- Kaido and Luffy take this approach in canon without question, hence the usage of masculine terms such as ''musuko'' ("son") and ''bocchan'' ("young master"). Others treat Yamato as female in accordance with the character's introductory text box saying "daughter" as well as the epithet "Oni Princess" in a flashback and the male identity as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden rather than a separate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female while retaining Kiku's proclamation of being "female at heart". And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku, who has described herself with the phrase "''kokoro wa onna''" (literally "[my] heart is a woman"), which is commonly used to describe transgender people in Japanese, goes into the women's bath. In both cases, Yamato and Kiku are accepted in the gendered bath of their choosing without objection. This has led to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic regarding Yamato.Yamato, and even caused Oda to be sent death threats on Twitter over the Vivre card listing Yamato's gender as female. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in canon.)
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* Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic at least in the West. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value -- Kaido and Luffy take this approach in canon without question, hence the usage of masculine terms such as ''musuko'' ("son") and ''bocchan'' ("young master"). Others treat Yamato as female in accordance with the character's introductory text box saying "daughter" as well as the epithet "Oni Princess" in a flashback and the male identity as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden rather than a separate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female while retaining Kiku's proclamation of being "female at heart". And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku, who has described herself with the phrase "''kokoro wa onna''", which is commonly used to describe transgender people in Japanese, goes into the women's bath. In both cases, Yamato and Kiku are accepted in the gendered bath of their choosing without objection. This has led to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic regarding Yamato. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in canon.)

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* Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic at least in the West. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value -- Kaido and Luffy take this approach in canon without question, hence the usage of masculine terms such as ''musuko'' ("son") and ''bocchan'' ("young master"). Others treat Yamato as female in accordance with the character's introductory text box saying "daughter" as well as the epithet "Oni Princess" in a flashback and the male identity as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden rather than a separate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female while retaining Kiku's proclamation of being "female at heart". And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku, who has described herself with the phrase "''kokoro wa onna''", onna''" (literally "[my] heart is a woman"), which is commonly used to describe transgender people in Japanese, goes into the women's bath. In both cases, Yamato and Kiku are accepted in the gendered bath of their choosing without objection. This has led to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic regarding Yamato. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in canon.)

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* Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value -- Kaido and Luffy take this approach in-canon without question. Others treat Yamato as female in accordance to the character's introductory text box saying "daughter", and the male identity being treated as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden rather than a separate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female, while retaining Kiku's proclamation of being "female at heart". And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku, someone the series has already established as being "female at heart", goes into the women's bath. In both cases, Yamato and Kiku are accepted in the gendered bath of their choosing without objection. This has lead to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic regarding Yamato. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in-canon.)
* The "okama" characters in general are either considered harmless fun, since a) plenty of men in canon are just as {{gonk}}y and goofy as they, and b) [[BewareTheSillyOnes being ridiculous in no way prevents them from being badasses]], or else they are loathed as hamfisted, politically incorrect stereotypes of transwomen, since they are universally depicted as {{camp}}y, extremely ugly, and very bad at presenting as female.
** Emporio Ivankov has their own entirely separate broken base in addition to overlapping with the general okama controversy. Some fans love Ivankov for being a giant kung-fu-fighting [[SexShifter gender-flipping]] [[Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Dr. Frank-N-Furter]], a concept that is so ridiculous it becomes awesome. Other fans loathe Ivankov either because Ivankov embodies negative stereotypes of transwomen as not only perverse, but ''predatory'', because Ivankov is willing to [[AndIMustScream force sex-shifts on other people]] either as punishment for offending Ivankov or just to fill a whim, or for both reasons.

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* Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic. topic at least in the West. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value -- Kaido and Luffy take this approach in-canon in canon without question. question, hence the usage of masculine terms such as ''musuko'' ("son") and ''bocchan'' ("young master"). Others treat Yamato as female in accordance to with the character's introductory text box saying "daughter", "daughter" as well as the epithet "Oni Princess" in a flashback and the male identity being treated as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden rather than a separate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female, female while retaining Kiku's proclamation of being "female at heart". And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku, someone who has described herself with the series has already established as being "female at heart", phrase "''kokoro wa onna''", which is commonly used to describe transgender people in Japanese, goes into the women's bath. In both cases, Yamato and Kiku are accepted in the gendered bath of their choosing without objection. This has lead led to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic regarding Yamato. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in-canon.in canon.)
* The "okama" characters in general are either considered harmless fun, since a) plenty of men in canon are just as {{gonk}}y and goofy as they, and b) [[BewareTheSillyOnes being ridiculous in no way prevents them from being badasses]], or else they are loathed as hamfisted, politically incorrect stereotypes of transwomen, trans women since they are universally depicted as {{camp}}y, extremely ugly, and very bad at presenting as female.
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female. Emporio Ivankov has their his own entirely separate broken base in addition to overlapping with the general okama controversy. Some fans love Ivankov for being a giant kung-fu-fighting [[SexShifter gender-flipping]] [[Film/TheRockyHorrorPictureShow Dr. Frank-N-Furter]], a concept that is so ridiculous it becomes awesome. Other fans loathe Ivankov either because Ivankov embodies negative stereotypes of transwomen trans women as not only perverse, but ''predatory'', because Ivankov is willing to [[AndIMustScream force sex-shifts on other people]] either as punishment for offending Ivankov or just to fill a whim, or for both reasons.



* The scale of the latter arcs, with Oda introducing multiple factions, with numerous side-characters that have their own motivations, backstories and plot threads. Some fans argue that this helps to make the arcs more epic, that it makes sense that the latter antagonists (such as Doflamingo and Kaido) require massive alliances to be taken down, and that it makes the ''One Piece'' world feel more lively and compelling. Detracting fans argue that Oda introduces ''too'' many characters to properly develop, that this practice ends up making the arcs slow down to a crawl, and that the side characters end up taking focus away from the main protagonists and villains, with many of them being seen as one-note or simply not interesting enough for the attention they get in-story.

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* The scale of the latter arcs, with Oda introducing multiple factions, with numerous side-characters side characters that have their own motivations, backstories and plot threads. Some fans argue that this helps to make the arcs more epic, that it makes sense that the latter antagonists (such as Doflamingo and Kaido) require massive alliances to be taken down, and that it makes the ''One Piece'' world feel more lively and compelling. Detracting fans argue that Oda introduces ''too'' many characters to properly develop, that this practice ends up making the arcs slow down to a crawl, and that the side characters end up taking focus away from the main protagonists and villains, with many of them being seen as one-note or simply not interesting enough for the attention they get in-story.
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* Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value, with Kaido and Luffy treating Yamato as such. Others treat Yamato as female in accordance to the character's introductory text box saying "daughter" and the male identity being treated as part of Yamato's Oden impersonation rather than a separate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female, while retaining Kiku's proclamation of being "female at heart". And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku, someone the series has already established as being "female at heart", goes into the women's bath. In both cases, they're accepted on their respective sides without objection. This has lead to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic; the manga or the Vivre card. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in-canon.)

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* Yamato's gender identity is a very sensitive topic. Some simply decide to take Yamato's proclamation of being male at face value, with value -- Kaido and Luffy treating Yamato as such. take this approach in-canon without question. Others treat Yamato as female in accordance to the character's introductory text box saying "daughter" "daughter", and the male identity being treated as part of Yamato's desire to impersonate Oden impersonation rather than a separate case of gender dysphoria. Further disarray emerged when the Vivre Card databooks simply call Yamato female, while retaining Kiku's proclamation of being "female at heart". And then this information became further disarrayed in Chapter 1052 when Yamato goes into the men's side of the bathhouse after declining an offer to join Nami in the women's side of the bathhouse. At the same time, Kiku, someone the series has already established as being "female at heart", goes into the women's bath. In both cases, they're Yamato and Kiku are accepted on in the gendered bath of their respective sides choosing without objection. This has lead to a heated debate between fans over which is the "correct" source of information for this topic; the manga or the Vivre card.topic regarding Yamato. Either way, Yamato's gender identity -- or at least, how to identify Yamato and which pronouns to use -- remains a contentious topic among fans of ''One Piece''. (For the sake of consistency, a consensus has been reached on TV Tropes to refer to Yamato only with male pronouns until it's stated otherwise in-canon.)
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** Gear 5th's ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerry''-[[WordOfGod inspired]] ToonPhysics also change the tone of the fight with Kaido considerably, which Oda himself acknowledged in an interview might alienate some people who feel that all the tension is getting sucked out, while others[[note]]Even including some of those who dislike the aforementioned fruit change[[/note]] enjoy it and point out that Luffy's powers were always intended to look silly.

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** Gear 5th's ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerry''-[[WordOfGod inspired]] ToonPhysics also change the tone of the fight with Kaido considerably, which with much of the damage he gives and receives becoming [[AmusingInjuries slapstick]]. Oda himself acknowledged in an interview that he might alienate some people who feel that all the tension is getting sucked out, while others[[note]]Even including some of those who dislike the aforementioned fruit change[[/note]] enjoy it and point out that Luffy's powers were always intended to look silly.
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** Additionally, there's also the question of whether the revelation of the fruit's true nature is an AssPull or whether it was properly foreshadowed. Detractors bring up what they perceive as plot holes, while defenders of the twist point to subtle clues throughout the series as proof that Oda had this development planned out far in advance.

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** Additionally, there's also the question of whether the revelation of the fruit's true nature is an AssPull or whether it was properly foreshadowed. Detractors bring up what they perceive as plot holes, while defenders of the twist point to what they perceive as subtle clues throughout the series as proof that Oda had this development planned out far in advance.
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* The scale of the latter arcs, with Oda introducing multiple factions, with numerous side-characters that have their own motivations, backstories and plot threads. Some fans argue that this helps to make the arcs more epic, that it makes sense that the latter antagonists (such as Doflamingo) require massive alliances to be taken down, and that it makes the ''One Piece'' world feel more lively and compelling. Detracting fans argue that Oda introduces ''too'' many characters to properly develop, that this practice ends up making the arcs slow down to a crawl, and that the side characters end up taking focus away from the main protagonists and villains, with many of them being seen as one-note or simply not interesting enough for the attention they get in-story.

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* The scale of the latter arcs, with Oda introducing multiple factions, with numerous side-characters that have their own motivations, backstories and plot threads. Some fans argue that this helps to make the arcs more epic, that it makes sense that the latter antagonists (such as Doflamingo) Doflamingo and Kaido) require massive alliances to be taken down, and that it makes the ''One Piece'' world feel more lively and compelling. Detracting fans argue that Oda introduces ''too'' many characters to properly develop, that this practice ends up making the arcs slow down to a crawl, and that the side characters end up taking focus away from the main protagonists and villains, with many of them being seen as one-note or simply not interesting enough for the attention they get in-story.

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* While all ''One Piece'' story arcs have fans and detractors, the Dressrosa arc is one of the most divisive: many love it for having Doflamingo as the main villain, introducing many new characters and the great moments they brought, staying climatic for dozens of chapters and with the reveal of the Gear Fourth and the Straw Hat Grand fleet. Others dislike it for being incredibly long and bloated, with far too many uninteresting characters to the detriment of half of the crew that goes missing[[note]]Sanji, Nami, Chopper, Brook[[/note]]. A related controversy is whether this arc or the Alabasta arc is better because of the perceived similarities.
* Wano is also a very polarizing arc, in no small part due to its incredible length and buildup compared to others. It was a climactic, world-shaking showdown against ''two'' Emperors of the Sea, including the "World's Strongest Creature" Kaido, to free Wano in memory of the late would-be shogun Kozuki Oden. To some, it's one of the most exciting arcs in the story backed by one of its most poignant flashbacks around Oden. To others, it was a dragged-out mess with plenty of underwhelming antagonists who didn't quite live up to their hype, and excessive CharacterShilling toward Oden. The entries below concerning Gear 5th and Hiyori's line about the Kurozumi only added fuel to the fire.
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* Wano is also a very polarizing arc, in no small part due to its incredible length and buildup compared to others. To some, it was a climactic, world-shaking showdown against ''two'' Emperors of the Sea, including the "World's Strongest Creature" Kaido, backed by one of the series' most poignant flashbacks focused on Kozuki Oden. To others, it was a dragged-out mess with plenty of underwhelming antagonists who didn't quite live up to their hype, and excessive CharacterShilling toward Oden. The entries below concerning Gear 5th and Hiyori's line about the Kurozumi only added fuel to the fire.

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* Wano is also a very polarizing arc, in no small part due to its incredible length and buildup compared to others. To some, it It was a climactic, world-shaking showdown against ''two'' Emperors of the Sea, including the "World's Strongest Creature" Kaido, to free Wano in memory of the late would-be shogun Kozuki Oden. To some, it's one of the most exciting arcs in the story backed by one of the series' its most poignant flashbacks focused on Kozuki around Oden. To others, it was a dragged-out mess with plenty of underwhelming antagonists who didn't quite live up to their hype, and excessive CharacterShilling toward Oden. The entries below concerning Gear 5th and Hiyori's line about the Kurozumi only added fuel to the fire.
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* Wano is also a very polarizing arc, in no small part due to its incredible length and buildup compared to others. To some, it was a climactic, world-shaking showdown against ''two'' Emperors of the Sea, including the "World's Strongest Creature" Kaido, backed by one of the series' most poignant flashbacks focused on Kozuki Oden. To others, it was a dragged-out mess with plenty of underwhelming antagonists who didn't quite live up to their hype, and excessive CharacterShilling toward Oden. The entries below concerning Gear 5th and Hiyori's line about the Kurozumi only added fuel to the fire.
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* One scene in particular that has been at the center of a lot of arguments is the final scene of the arc which re-enacts Orochi's death, primarily due to the fanbase not being able to agree on how the scene is meant to be interpreted. While Hiyori's line "Kurozumi ([[PunnyName Charcoal]]) was born to burn!" is undoubtedly a pun playing off "Oden was born to boil!" a lot of arguments have spawned over the fact that "Kurozumi" is the name of Orochi's ''clan'' which gives the line some... weird potential implications. It isn't helped by the fact that a major theme of the arc was that the persecution of the Kurozumi clan directly caused characters like Kanjuro to seek revenge against Wano, and that CycleOfRevenge had been a central reoccurring theme throughout the series. With that being said, the story obviously is not condoning the clan's persecution considering that Tama of all characters is a Kurozumi. It actually got to the point that Eichiro Oda had to explicitly say in SBS 105 that Hiyori was referring to Orochi in the singular... but then goes on to say that discrimination against the clan is still a problem in the country, and leaves the future for Tama (an impoverished young girl whose powers helped overthrow Orochi and Kaido's rule) ambiguous if she were ever outed as a Kurozumi, which implies that the line's weird implications likely [[DeliberateValuesDissonance weren't exactly unintentional]]. Many fans get the impression that the story is ''trying'' to make an interesting point with the scene[[note]]Which is supported by Aramaki's comment on discrimination a few chapters prior[[/note]] that gets somewhat muddled in the rushed ending.

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* One scene in particular that has been at the center of a lot of arguments is the final scene of the Wano arc which re-enacts Orochi's death, primarily due to the fanbase not being able to agree on how the scene is meant to be interpreted. While Hiyori's line "Kurozumi ([[PunnyName Charcoal]]) was born to burn!" is undoubtedly a pun playing off "Oden was born to boil!" a lot of arguments have spawned over the fact that "Kurozumi" is the name of Orochi's ''clan'' which gives the line some... weird potential implications. It isn't helped by the fact that a major theme of the arc was that the persecution of the Kurozumi clan directly caused characters like Kanjuro to seek revenge against Wano, and that CycleOfRevenge had been a central reoccurring theme throughout the series. With that being said, the story obviously is not condoning the clan's persecution considering that Tama of all characters is a Kurozumi. It actually got to the point that Eichiro Oda had to explicitly say in SBS 105 that Hiyori was referring to Orochi in the singular... but then goes on to say that discrimination against the clan is still a problem in the country, and leaves the future for Tama (an impoverished young girl whose powers helped overthrow Orochi and Kaido's rule) ambiguous if she were ever outed as a Kurozumi, which implies that the line's weird implications likely [[DeliberateValuesDissonance weren't exactly unintentional]]. Many fans get the impression that the story is ''trying'' to make an interesting point with the scene[[note]]Which is supported by Aramaki's comment on discrimination a few chapters prior[[/note]] that gets somewhat muddled in the rushed ending.
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* One scene in particular that has been at the center of a lot of arguments is the final scene of the arc which re-enacts Orochi's death, primarily due to the fanbase not being able to agree on how the scene is meant to be interpreted. While Hiyori's line "Kurozumi ([[PunnyName Charcoal]]) was born to burn!" is undoubtedly a pun playing off "Oden was born to boil!" a lot of arguments have spawned over the fact that "Kurozumi" is the name of Orochi's ''clan'' which gives the line some... weird potential implications. It isn't helped by the fact that a major theme of the arc was that the persecution of the Kurozumi clan directly caused characters like Kanjuro to seek revenge against Wano, and that CycleOfRevenge had been a central reoccurring theme throughout the series. With that being said, the story obviously is not condoning the clan's persecution considering that Tama of all characters is a Kurozumi. It actually got to the point that Eichiro Oda had to explicitly say in SBS 105 that Hiyori was referring to Orochi in the singular... but then goes on to say that discrimination against the clan is still a problem in the country, and leaves the future for Tama (an impoverished young girl whose powers helped overthrow Orochi and Kaido's rule) ambiguous if she were ever outed as a Kurozumi, which implies that the line's weird implications likely [[DeliberateValuesDissonance weren't exactly unintentional]]. Many fans get the impression that the story is ''trying'' to make an interesting point with the scene[[note]]Which is supported by Aramaki's comment on discrimination a few chapters prior[[/note]] that gets somewhat muddled in the aforementioned rushed ending.

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* One scene in particular that has been at the center of a lot of arguments is the final scene of the arc which re-enacts Orochi's death, primarily due to the fanbase not being able to agree on how the scene is meant to be interpreted. While Hiyori's line "Kurozumi ([[PunnyName Charcoal]]) was born to burn!" is undoubtedly a pun playing off "Oden was born to boil!" a lot of arguments have spawned over the fact that "Kurozumi" is the name of Orochi's ''clan'' which gives the line some... weird potential implications. It isn't helped by the fact that a major theme of the arc was that the persecution of the Kurozumi clan directly caused characters like Kanjuro to seek revenge against Wano, and that CycleOfRevenge had been a central reoccurring theme throughout the series. With that being said, the story obviously is not condoning the clan's persecution considering that Tama of all characters is a Kurozumi. It actually got to the point that Eichiro Oda had to explicitly say in SBS 105 that Hiyori was referring to Orochi in the singular... but then goes on to say that discrimination against the clan is still a problem in the country, and leaves the future for Tama (an impoverished young girl whose powers helped overthrow Orochi and Kaido's rule) ambiguous if she were ever outed as a Kurozumi, which implies that the line's weird implications likely [[DeliberateValuesDissonance weren't exactly unintentional]]. Many fans get the impression that the story is ''trying'' to make an interesting point with the scene[[note]]Which is supported by Aramaki's comment on discrimination a few chapters prior[[/note]] that gets somewhat muddled in the aforementioned rushed ending.

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* One scene in particular that has been at the center of a lot of arguments is the final scene of the arc which re-enacts Orochi's death, primarily due to the fanbase not being able to agree on how the scene is meant to be interpreted. While Hiyori's line "Kurozumi ([[PunnyName Charcoal]]) was born to burn!" is undoubtedly a pun playing off "Oden was born to boil!" a lot of arguments have spawned over the fact that "Kurozumi" is the name of Orochi's ''clan'' which gives the line some... weird potential implications. It isn't helped by the fact that a major theme of the arc was that the persecution of the Kurozumi clan directly caused characters like Kanjuro to seek revenge against Wano, and that CycleOfRevenge had been a central reoccurring theme throughout the series. With that being said, the story obviously is not condoning the clan's persecution considering that Tama of all characters is a Kurozumi. It actually got to the point that Eichiro Oda had to explicitly say in SBS 105 that Hiyori was referring to Orochi in the singular... but then goes on to say that discrimination against the clan is still a problem in the country, which implies that the line's weird implications likely [[DeliberateValuesDissonance weren't exactly unintentional]]. Many fans get the impression that the story is ''trying'' to make an interesting point with the scene[[note]]Which is supported by Aramaki's comment on discrimination a few chapters prior[[/note]] that gets somewhat muddled in the aforementioned rushed ending.

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* One scene in particular that has been at the center of a lot of arguments is the final scene of the arc which re-enacts Orochi's death, primarily due to the fanbase not being able to agree on how the scene is meant to be interpreted. While Hiyori's line "Kurozumi ([[PunnyName Charcoal]]) was born to burn!" is undoubtedly a pun playing off "Oden was born to boil!" a lot of arguments have spawned over the fact that "Kurozumi" is the name of Orochi's ''clan'' which gives the line some... weird potential implications. It isn't helped by the fact that a major theme of the arc was that the persecution of the Kurozumi clan directly caused characters like Kanjuro to seek revenge against Wano, and that CycleOfRevenge had been a central reoccurring theme throughout the series. With that being said, the story obviously is not condoning the clan's persecution considering that Tama of all characters is a Kurozumi. It actually got to the point that Eichiro Oda had to explicitly say in SBS 105 that Hiyori was referring to Orochi in the singular... but then goes on to say that discrimination against the clan is still a problem in the country, and leaves the future for Tama (an impoverished young girl whose powers helped overthrow Orochi and Kaido's rule) ambiguous if she were ever outed as a Kurozumi, which implies that the line's weird implications likely [[DeliberateValuesDissonance weren't exactly unintentional]]. Many fans get the impression that the story is ''trying'' to make an interesting point with the scene[[note]]Which is supported by Aramaki's comment on discrimination a few chapters prior[[/note]] that gets somewhat muddled in the aforementioned rushed ending.

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