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**A heavier example is the fire storm that happened when they said #AllLivesMatter. Then they backtracked and said that #AllLivesMatter and #BlackLivesMatter. That just made it worse.


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*ButcherBabies got criticism for the two lead singers performing topless with pasties. Others point out that it's a Homage to performer Wendy O. Williams. But it's likely that most of their audience doesn't even know who that is.
**Gets even more dicey when people claim that the criticism is passive aggressive SlutShaming.
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* {{Trance}} has what is quite possibly the most fractured fanbase in ElectronicMusic. Arguments mainly center on what constitutes as [[NoTrueScotsman "true"]] trance (the weird and trippy psychedelic trance versus the euphoric and emotional uplifting trance, which is just one of many inner fandom rivalries), with the fandom continuing to schism more and more due to the sheer number of subgenres within the larger scene and the directions the genre has taken over the years.

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* {{Trance}} has what is quite possibly the most fractured fanbase in ElectronicMusic. Arguments mainly center on what constitutes as [[NoTrueScotsman "true"]] trance (the weird and trippy psychedelic trance versus the euphoric and emotional uplifting trance, which is just one of many inner fandom rivalries), with the fandom continuing to schism more and more due to the sheer number of subgenres within the larger scene and the directions the genre has taken over the years.years, especially in the increasingly commercialized climate of TheNewTens ElectronicMusic scene.
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* When Music/{{Katatonia}} drastically shifted from being a blackened DoomMetal band to a LighterAndSofter AlternativeMetal band starting with ''Discouraged Ones'' and stuck with it, this reaction is a given.
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* A lot of Music/{{Dismember}} listeners wonder if any of the albums between ''Indecent and Obscene'' (or at least, ''Massive Killing Capacity'') and ''The God That Never Was'' were any good, since the band added a lot more focus on melody than straight up DeathMetal.
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* Happens with classic rock too. What should the cutoff year be? Are 90's (or even late 80's) rock allowed to be classics? Should so-and-so band be considered classic rock? (The latter debate is especially prominent with [[Music/GunsNRoses Guns N' Roses]], Music/{{Metallica}}, Music/{{Nirvana}}, and Music/PearlJam.)

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* Happens with classic rock too. Is classic rock just a radio format or a distinct style of its own? What should the cutoff year be? Are 90's (or even late 80's) rock allowed to be classics? Should so-and-so band be considered classic rock? (The latter debate is especially prominent with [[Music/GunsNRoses Guns N' Roses]], Music/{{Metallica}}, Music/{{Nirvana}}, and Music/PearlJam.)
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* Happens with classic rock too. What should the cutoff year be for a song? Are 90's (or even late 80's) rock allowed to be classics? Should so-and-so band be considered classic rock? (The latter debate is especially prominent with [[Music/GunsNRoses Guns N' Roses]], Music/{{Metallica}}, Music/{{Nirvana}}, and Music/PearlJam.)

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* Happens with classic rock too. What should the cutoff year be for a song? be? Are 90's (or even late 80's) rock allowed to be classics? Should so-and-so band be considered classic rock? (The latter debate is especially prominent with [[Music/GunsNRoses Guns N' Roses]], Music/{{Metallica}}, Music/{{Nirvana}}, and Music/PearlJam.)
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* Happens with classic rock too. What should the cutoff year be for a song? Are 90's (or even late 80's) rock allowed to be classics? Should so-and-so band be considered classic rock? (The latter debate is especially prominent with [[Music/GunsNRoses Guns N' Roses]], Music/{{Metallica}}, Music/{{Nirvana}}, and Music/PearlJam.)
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** Songs like "Hello Kitty" and "Girlfriend" sound completely different from her older styles. Fans are torn on whether her more pop oriented songs ar treacherous or enjoyable.

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** Songs like "Hello Kitty" and "Girlfriend" sound completely different from her older styles. Fans are torn on whether her more pop oriented songs ar are treacherous or enjoyable.



* In This Moment's fanbase breaks more with each album. Whether the flashiness and theatrics of their newer music videos is a step up or a bad thing depends on the person.

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* In This Moment's Music/InThisMoment's fanbase breaks more with each album. Whether the flashiness and theatrics of their newer music videos is a step up or a bad thing depends on the person.
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* Flame wars about Music/HollywoodUndead are quite rampant on YouTube. Is Duece better or worse than Danny? Fun party songs or heavier, more emotional songs?

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* Flame wars about Music/HollywoodUndead are quite rampant on YouTube. Is Duece better Do you prefer original singer Deuce, or worse than replacement Danny? Fun Do you prefer the fun party songs or the heavier, more emotional songs?
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** Also, ''Music''. A good album that was simply anticipated too much due to ''Music/RayOfLight'', or a really, ''really'' poor sequel to the Queen's MagnumOpus?

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** Also, ''Music''. A good album that was simply anticipated too much due to ''Music/RayOfLight'', or a really, ''really'' poor sequel to the Queen's MagnumOpus?sequel?
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* American listeners of a couple of ItaloDisco songs such as "Plastic Doll" by Dharma, "Not Love" by Trilogy, and "I Need Love" by Capricorn have argued over the best speed to play these songs. People from cities such as those in the east coast and notably UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}} enjoy listening at the slower but correct speed intended by the artists. People from southern UsefulNotes/{{California}} prefer the faster 45 rpm speed.
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* Flame wars about Music/HollywoodUndead are quite rampant on YouTube. Is Duece better or worse than Danny? Fun party songs or heavier, more emotional songs?
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* {{Trance}} has what is quite possibly the most fractured fanbase in ElectronicMusic. Arguments mainly center on what constitutes as [[NoTrueScotsman "true"]] trance (the weird and trippy psychedelic trance versus the euphoric and emotional uplifting trance, which is just one of many inner fandom rivalries), with the fandom continuing to schism more and more due to the sheer number of subgenres within the larger scene and the directions the genre has taken over the years.
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* "What is [[HeavyMetal Metal]]?" is an extremely loaded question. Bands like Music/WithinTemptation and Music/{{Babymetal}} have come under fire for not being 'real' metal. Babymetal in particular has had an InternetBackdraft because their image goes so very against what people consider metal music.
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** "Girlfriend". Does it glorify a certain particularly shallow way of thinking, or does it satirize it? And if it's the latter, then, since [[ViewersAreMorons Teenage Radio Listeners Are Morons]], was it a good idea or a bad one?

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** "Girlfriend". Does it glorify a certain particularly shallow way of thinking, or does it satirize it? And if it's the latter, then, since [[ViewersAreMorons Teenage Radio Listeners Are Morons]], Morons, was it a good idea or a bad one?
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* {{Dubstep}}, to ridiculous degrees. Fans of the more bass-driven, minimalistic sounds of {{Burial}} or Skream and fans of the more aggressive "Brostep" such as Flux Pavilion or Rusko get into flame wars that you wouldn't believe. There is no middle ground.

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* {{Dubstep}}, to ridiculous degrees. Fans of the more bass-driven, minimalistic sounds of {{Burial}} Music/{{Burial}} or Skream and fans of the more aggressive "Brostep" such as Flux Pavilion or Rusko get into flame wars that you wouldn't believe. There is no middle ground.
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* Kelli Ali was fired from the SneakerPimps after the group's first album and replaced with founding member Chris Corner. The argument continues even today as to whether the group was better with or without her.

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* Kelli Ali was fired from the SneakerPimps Music/SneakerPimps after the group's first album and replaced with founding member Chris Corner. The argument continues even today as to whether the group was better with or without her.
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* In general, R&B attracts this. Fans of R&B/Pop stars vs fans of more "pure" and "mature" R&B/Soul vocalists artists have major problems. This goes as far back as the Motown vs. STAX/Volt rivalry of TheSeventies. The modern version of that rivalry basically boils down to fans of artists like Music/{{Rihanna}}, Kristina Debarge, Mya, Music/ChrisBrown, Keri Hilson, etc vs. fans of artists like Anthony Hamilton, IndiaArie, Leela James, Amel Larrieux, Kem, Music/JillScott, Angie Stone, Goapale etc. The fans of the former group of artists thinks the latter artists' style is outdated and boring, and their fans are a bunch of out of touch elitists. The latter usually calls the former group of artists "Industry Whores" whom along with the record companies are impeding the success of the "true musicians".

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* In general, R&B attracts this. Fans of R&B/Pop stars vs fans of more "pure" and "mature" R&B/Soul vocalists artists have major problems. This goes as far back as the Motown vs. STAX/Volt rivalry of TheSeventies. The modern version of that rivalry basically boils down to fans of artists like Music/{{Rihanna}}, Kristina Debarge, Mya, Music/ChrisBrown, Keri Hilson, etc vs. fans of artists like Anthony Hamilton, IndiaArie, Music/IndiaArie, Leela James, Amel Larrieux, Kem, Music/JillScott, Angie Stone, Goapale etc. The fans of the former group of artists thinks the latter artists' style is outdated and boring, and their fans are a bunch of out of touch elitists. The latter usually calls the former group of artists "Industry Whores" whom along with the record companies are impeding the success of the "true musicians".
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* Musical theater fans are divided between those who prefer the earlier Broadway style of Rodgers & Hammerstein (or [[{{Showboat}} even earlier]]), versus modern musicals. Heck, they even made a musical (''The Drowsy Chaperone'') ''about'' the whole debate.

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* Musical theater fans are divided between those who prefer the earlier Broadway style of Rodgers & Hammerstein (or [[{{Showboat}} [[Theatre/{{Showboat}} even earlier]]), versus modern musicals. Heck, they even made a musical (''The Drowsy Chaperone'') ''about'' the whole debate.

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** Also throw in racist undertones toward Howard ForMassiveDamage!!
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Jethro Tull\'s \"A Passion Play\", from the group\'s own website

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* Music/JethroTull's own website [[http://jethrotull.com/?portfolio=a-passion-play invokes this trope]] in its discussion of ''A Passion Play'':
--->Tull fans are a rather cordial group but breech the topic of ''A Passion Play'' at your own peril. Many vehemently defend it as Tull's finest work — others downright loath it.
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**** The Wagner controversy, it should be mentioned, has been ongoing since Wagner was in his early thirties (the original leader of the anti-Wagner camp was Viennese music critic and philosopher Edouard Hanslick) and has been going strong since.
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** It should be noted that ''Butterfly'' was the first album where she ''fully'' conformed to her urban sound thus picking up a [[NewbieBoom new young urban fanbase]] whom might not have been interested in her music beforehand. When she stopped making Adult Contemporary power ballads that's when the Base started to break. Plus there was the fact that she now garnered a new urban fanbase. Because of the latter, the criticism of her post-''Music Box'' albums tend to veer into UnfortunateImplication territory.

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** It should be noted that ''Butterfly'' was the first album where she ''fully'' conformed to her urban sound thus picking up a [[NewbieBoom new young urban fanbase]] whom might not have been interested in her music beforehand. When she stopped making Adult Contemporary power ballads that's when the Base started to break. Plus there was the fact that she now garnered a new urban fanbase. Because of the latter, the criticism of her post-''Music Box'' albums tend to veer into UnfortunateImplication UnfortunateImplications territory.

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** Not to mention the singer wars: Maria Callas vs. Renato Tebaldi and Placido Domingo vs. Music/LucianoPavarotti to name the two bloodiest conflicts. Mario Lanza: great classical tenor, or overhyped Hollywood version of same? And of course "There are no good singers today" vs. "There are too!"

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** Not to mention the singer wars: Maria Callas vs. Renato Renata Tebaldi and Placido Domingo vs. Music/LucianoPavarotti to name the two bloodiest conflicts. Mario Lanza: great classical tenor, or overhyped Hollywood version of same? And of course "There are no good singers today" vs. "There are too!"too!"
** On even more fundamental levels; Is translating Operas into other languages a brilliant move to make the material more accessible to people who would otherwise be put off the art form, or an inexcusable mangling of the material which places far too much pressure on the singers? This one has petered off in the last decade or so, with the subtitling machine considered an acceptable middle ground by all but the die-hards.
** There is also the question of whether spoken recitatives are acceptable, i.e. is it OK to save the singing for the arias and other important bits, and just say all the dialogue inbetween, or does that dialogue have to be sung too?
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* In {{Indie}} or otherwise underground music, any artist who gains a measure of mainstream popularity will experience a wave of backlash from original fans. Mostly from fear that the artist(s) in question will change their style in order to become mainstream.

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* In {{Indie}} or otherwise underground music, [[ItsPopularNowItSucks any artist who gains a measure of mainstream popularity will experience a wave of backlash from original fans.fans]]. Mostly from fear that the artist(s) in question will change their style in order to become mainstream.
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* Music/StatusQuo. Oh dear god, Status Quo. It's generally agreed that if you're a Quo fan, you either prefer the harder, heavier music from their "Frantic Four" heyday (i.e. ''Ma Kelly's Greasy Spoon'' to ''Blue For You''), or you favour all their music in general. Whilst many people simply feel the earlier stuff is better, there is a section of the fanbase that feel Quo have betrayed their hard rock roots by experimenting with a poppier sound, and will refuse to enjoy anything post-'70s, up to and including the current lineup of the band. The rest don't seem to mind.

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* Music/StatusQuo. Oh dear god, Status Quo. It's generally agreed that if you're a Quo fan, you either prefer the harder, heavier music from their "Frantic Four" heyday (i.e. ''Ma Kelly's Greasy Spoon'' to ''Blue For You''), or you favour all their music in general. Whilst The former camp is divided even further - whilst many people simply feel the earlier stuff is better, there is a section of the fanbase that feel Quo have betrayed their hard rock roots by experimenting with a poppier sound, and will refuse to enjoy anything post-'70s, up to and including the current lineup of the band. The rest don't seem to mind.

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* Music/AvrilLavigne's "Girlfriend". Does it glorify a certain particularly shallow way of thinking, or does it satirize it? And if it's the latter, then, since [[ViewersAreMorons Teenage Radio Listeners Are Morons]], was it a good idea or a bad one?

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* Music/AvrilLavigne's Music/AvrilLavigne:
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"Girlfriend". Does it glorify a certain particularly shallow way of thinking, or does it satirize it? And if it's the latter, then, since [[ViewersAreMorons Teenage Radio Listeners Are Morons]], was it a good idea or a bad one?one?
** Songs like "Hello Kitty" and "Girlfriend" sound completely different from her older styles. Fans are torn on whether her more pop oriented songs ar treacherous or enjoyable.


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* In This Moment's fanbase breaks more with each album. Whether the flashiness and theatrics of their newer music videos is a step up or a bad thing depends on the person.
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* The Doobie Brothers are split between two sounds- hard southern rock and soft rock. Their original material was fronted by Tom Johnson, though his health became poor shortly after the band became a success. Patrick Simmons briefly took over vocal duties, however, Michael [=McDonald]= was introduced as the new lead singer in 1976(he had previously played keyboards) to fulfill the band's obligation to record an album and their style changed heavily. The band would perform older material live in concert with a substitute singer filling Johnson's role, but [=McDonald's=] own style was vastly different. They would not return to their original signature style until 1988 when Tom Johnson would eventually return. Naturally, some refuse to even regard the [=McDonald=] era due to the vastly different style of music, though the band themselves haven't shied away from that era despite maintaining their more traditional hard rock style of music.
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* Music/AFI seem to have a solid divide between fans of their hardcore punk period of 1994-2000 and their goth rock influenced works from 2003 on with rather ugly flamewars raging to this day. Neither side seems to like [[NewSoundAlbum Crash Love]] much however.

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* Music/AFI {{Music/AFI}} seem to have a solid divide between fans of their hardcore punk period of 1994-2000 and their goth rock influenced works from 2003 on with rather ugly flamewars raging to this day. Neither side seems to like [[NewSoundAlbum Crash Love]] much however.
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* Music/AFI seem to have a solid divide between fans of their hardcore punk period of 1994-2000 and their goth rock influenced works from 2003 on with rather ugly flamewars raging to this day. Neither side seems to like [[NewSoundAlbum Crash Love]] much however.

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