History BrokenBase / LiveActionTV

** Whether or not Din Djarin should've [[InevitablyBrokenRule abandoned his tribe's rule]] to never let a living thing see him without his helmet after Season 2. Some fans believe that in order to reinforce the lesson that Mandalorians can practice whatever form of their religion they want, the helmet rule should never completely die off, especially since Din looks uncomfortable letting other characters see his unmasked face in Chapters 8 and 15. Others believe that after Chapters 15 and 16 show Din's love of Grogu overpowering his devotion to a dying custom, he reverses too much of his character development by atoning for his violation of the rule. The latter camp also includes viewers who fear that Lucasfilm squanders too much of Creator/PedroPascal's talent by regularly hiding his facial expressions.

** Whether or not Din Djarin should've abandoned his tribe's rule to never let a living thing see him without his helmet after Season 2. Some fans believe that in order to reinforce the lesson that Mandalorians can practice whatever form of their religion they want, the helmet rule should never completely die off, especially since Din looks uncomfortable letting other characters see his unmasked face in Chapters 8 and 15. Others believe that after Chapters 15 and 16 show Din's love of Grogu overpowering his devotion to a dying custom, he reverses too much of his character development by atoning for his violation of the rule. The latter camp also includes viewers who fear that Lucasfilm squanders too much of Creator/PedroPascal's talent by regularly hiding his facial expressions.

* ''Series/TheMandalorian'': The biggest issue is who deserves to wield the Darksaber: Bo-Katan, or Din Djarin, especially after Din lost it on Mandalore. There's also the fact that the show is more about the Mandalorians instead of being focused on Din and Grogu starting around Season 2.

* ''Series/TheMandalorian'': The biggest issues is the Darksabre and who deserves to wield it Bo Kotan, or Din Djarin, especially after Din lost it on Mandalore. There's the fact that the show is more about the Mandolorians instead of being focused on Din and Grogu starting around season 2. But even Grogu isn't safe with some fans saying he's just a glorified product placement.

* ''Series/{{Degrassi}}'' has a fandom divide between the 'original cast' (Seasons 1 to 7) and the 'new cast' (Seasons 7 to present). While the general rallying cry of the former is 'the Show should have ended when J.T. died', the issue has very little to do with the character. The former believes that the latter cast are poorly hidden copies, the latter believes that the new cast is a superior second attempt. Both sides do generally agree Seasons 7 and 8 sucked.

* ''Series/UltramanCosmos'' is an odd example: The show itself falls into this category[[note]]not helping things is that at 65 episodes, it's the longest show in the franchise[[/note]], with fans either liking or disliking the show's [[LighterAndSofter kid-aimed tone shift]][[note]]this may have been the reason why ''Film/UltramanTheNext'' and ''Series/UltramanNexus'' were DarkerAndEdgier[[/note]]; the movies, on the other hand, are considered some of the best by the entire fanbase and avert this trope.

** Every era of the show receives a degree of this with some fans who love it while others hate it. Arguments rage over whether the Classic series or the Modern revival is better. Fans of the Classic series prefer the lack of melodrama and more traditional sci-fi feel while fans of the Modern series prefer the greater emphasis on character development and long term arcs. Not to mention disagreements regarding more specific eras. For instance, Classic ''Who'' fans are divided on whether the 60s or 70s are the best decade (with the 80s being a [[SeasonalRot much rarer]] but not nonexistent pick), while New ''Who'' fans can't agree on whether Russell T Davies or Steven Moffat is a better showrunner (with Chris Chibnall similarly being a much rarer but not non-existent pick). And then there's the debates over which [[TheNthDoctor incarnation]] of the Doctor is the best.

** ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'': While this is starting to quiet down to some degree (seeing as every Star Trek TV show has had some backlash upon its release); Discovery had a massively polarizing effect on certain groups of fans, while others lauded it with praise. Due to a number of factors, such as it being well over a decade since there was a weekly ''Trek'' series (with many forgetting how much they hated later installments just doing the same thing over and over), Paramount and Viacom's split ("can it even be Trek without Paramount's involvement?"), the entirely new production team that brought the project to fruition ("who are these nobodies, they don't even understand Trek!"), the involvement of Alex Kurtzman (considered nearly an Antichrist by fans who did not enjoy the rebooted film series), the improved visuals (it's a prequel to TOS, so to many it should contain the same cheese-laden 60's look), the serialized plotting, the "canon violations" (primarily retcons and fanon misconceptions), new makeup and look for the Klingons, focus on a character who isn't the captain (and, unfortunately, poor reactions to her gender and race), the fact that it's on a premium streaming service rather than ordinary television, introduction of profanity (something Roddenberry himself would have included had network standards allowed it) and perhaps most notably its being released roughly at the same time as [[Series/TheOrville another show]] that deliberately invoked TNG-era nostalgia, a very vocal section of the fandom declared it "[[CanonDiscontinuity not real Trek]]" and even began online campaigns attempting to have it cancelled. In retrospect, even ''Enterprise'' has gained their favor compared to this. It's only gotten worse with each new offering since. ''Series/StarTrekPicard'' is too dark and doesn't show the hopeful future Roddenberry wanted, ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks'' is lowbrow comedy that's antithetical to the spirit of the franchise, etc., etc. Needless to say, both of those series have their rabid fans as well.

** During the TurnOfTheMillennium, Elmo and, to a lesser extent, Abby, got more screen time while other characters got less. This peeved some adult viewers, finding Elmo and Abby too cutesy and wanting to see more of the other characters, while other adult viewers thought that it was good to focus on two three-year-olds since that's how old a lot of the child audience was, and that the two were adorable. Eventually, the show found a happy medium, still giving Elmo and Abby lots of screen time but giving the rest of the cast their time to shine as well.

** "The Timeless Children" doing a massive retcon of the Doctor's past; namely counting the faces seen in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS13E5TheBrainOfMorbius" The Brain of Morbius]] as past incarnations of the doctor, which itself was retconned out when the 12 regeneration limit was established. Their relationship with the other Time Lords also got changed, which absolutely infuriated many fans for needless retcons, while greatly enthusing others for changing thing up.

** Every era of the show receives a degree of this with some fans who love it while others hate it. Arguments rage over whether the Classic series or the Modern revival is better. Fans of the Classic series prefer the lack of melodrama and more traditional sci-fi feel while fans of the Modern series prefer the greater emphasis on character development and long term arcs. Not to mention disagreements regarding more specific eras. For instance, Classic ''Who'' fans are divided on whether the 60s or 70s are the best decade (with the 80s being a [[SeasonalRot much rarer]] but not nonexistent pick), while New ''Who'' fans can't agree on whether Russell T Davies or Steven Moffat is a better showrunner (with Chris Chibnall similarly being a much rarer but not nonexistent pick). And then there's the debates over which [[TheNthDoctor incarnation]] of the Doctor is the best.
** The decision to GenderSwap the character in 2017 led to the most extreme broken base scenario in the franchise's history, with fandom pretty much evenly split between those applauding the idea and those who announced they were divorcing themselves from the franchise. And then things got even worse after the massive retconning of the Doctor's past and their relationship with the other Time Lords in the following season's "The Timeless Children", which absolutely infuriated many fans while enthusing others.

* ''{{Series/Beforeigners}}'': The series has two groups of fans. Group one thinks it's a nice cross of BuddyCopShow and FishOutOfWater comedy. Group two thinks it's an arc-driven drama about Alfhildr's time travel hijinks. The overlap is non-existent, and the flame wars when season 2 came out was ''epic''.

* ''{{Series/Beforeigners}}'': The series has two groups of fans. Group one that think it's a nice cross of BuddyCopShow and FishOutOfWater comedy. Group two thing it's an arc-driven drama about Alfhildr's time travel hijinks. The overlap is non-existent, and the flame wars when season 2 came out was ''epic''.

** To say [[Film/KamenRiderZeroOneOthersMetsubouJinrai the Zero-One]] [[Film/KamenRiderZeroOneOthersVulcanValkyrie Others duology]] is critically divisive is an {{Understatement}}. People balked at the [[spoiler: deaths of nearly half the cast]] due to IdiotBall-gripping and [[SameStoryDifferentNames re-treading of suspiciously-familiar ZAIA-narrative territory]],[[note]]Despite being received as an AffablyEvil meme-villain, Lyon Arkland is [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute a shameless Gai Amatsu clone]]; [[WarForFunAndProfit right down to arms-dealing being his goal]]. Replace "Solds" with "ZAIA Spec" and you have the Workplace Competition Arc sans the "Competition."[[/note]] the [[FauxActionGirl continued degradation of Yua Yaiba as a character]] (despite her being very prominent in trailers with the promise of an origin story [[spoiler: that amounts to one minor {{Flashback}} that pertains more to A.I.M.S. than her]]), the further muddying of the CycleOfRevenge moral [[LostAesop the show's finale was already weird about]] and the ShootTheShaggyDog ResetButtonEnding the last film ends ''Zero-One'' at-large on. Inversely, some like the films for Lyon Arkland and Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai both subverting Zero-One's standard villain-tropes [[note]]Even with Gai Amatsu's motives as his own, Lyon averts StupidEvil entirely; demonstrating amazing people-skills while also being fun enough to hate for the right reasons. KR Metsubojinrai meanwhile is the season's first villain whose motives have ''no malice'' whatsoever; refreshing to some.[[/note]] during the first movie while Isamu's b-plot in the sequel is liked due to Vulcan Lone Wolf coming out of it. Not everyone saw [[spoiler: the deaths of Metsubojinrai]] as bad either, framing the move as [[TakeAThirdOption a unique way]] to handle villains with [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor spotty moral-records as it was]]. People in both camps are generally kinder to the first film than the [[ContestedSequel the last]], though overall opinion on ''Others'' ranges from "well-intentioned experiment that made some [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome iffy]] [[LostAesop choices]]" to "[[TooBleakStoppedCaring needlessly grimdark]] ''[[Series/KamenRiderAmazons Amazons]]''-esque season killer".

** To say ''Zero-One: Others'' is [[ContestedSequel critically divisive]] is an {{Understatement}}. People balked at the [[spoiler: deaths of nearly half the cast]] due to IdiotBall-gripping and [[SameStoryDifferentNames re-treading of suspiciously-familiar ZAIA narrative territory]],[[note]]Despite being received as an AffablyEvil meme-villain, Lyon Arkland is [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute a shameless Gai Amatsu clone]]; [[WarForFunAndProfit right down to motive]]. Heck, his Rider Suit is even a DarkerAndEdgier re-paint of Thouser![[/note]] the [[FauxActionGirl continued degradation of Yua Yaiba as a character]] (despite her being very prominent in trailers), the further muddying of the CycleOfRevenge moral [[LostAesop the show was already weird about]] and the ShootTheShaggyDog ResetButtonEnding the last film ends ''Zero-One'' at-large on. Inversely, Lyon Arkland and Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai were both received fairly well as villains[[note]] Lyon averts StupidEvil completely despite having Gai's motives while KR Metsubojinrai is the season's first villain whose motives have ''no malice'' whatsoever; refreshing to some.[[/note]] during the first movie and the second film's movie form designs were highly-praised. The first film is generally better-regarded than the last despite its own issues yet the sequel's sheer amount of divisiveness has come to define the product at-large. Opinions on these films range from "well-intentioned experiment that made some [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome bad]] [[LostAesop choices]]" to "''[[Series/KamenRiderAmazons Amazons]]''-esque [[TooBleakStoppedCaring grimdark season killer]]".

* ''Series/KamenRiderZeroOne'': Hoo boy, the Workplace Competition Arc is a doozy. While most agree that the Arc was (at least on-paper) an interesting way to introduce Aruto to how cut-throat the business world can be and that it went on for [[ArcFatigue way too long]], the divisiveness stems from how far the good outweighs the bad. Detractors see the arc as taking the idea way too far - being an over-bloated AllForNothing spectacle that allowed ArcVillain Gai Amatsu [[PlotArmor carte-blanche]] for a whole third of the show, tap-dancing past WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief on so many occasions [[spoiler: while [[MeaninglessVillainVictory all but]] getting away with it]] that Aruto (who spends most of the arc [[CurbStompBattle getting effortlessly ragdolled]]) was [[FailureHero hard to root for in comparison]]. Those that like it spin this for the positive - emphasizing the importance of Aruto receiving a wake-up call while in addition getting annual berserk form [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Metal Cluster Hopper]] out of the way through CharacterDevelopment for Is. Secondary Rider Isamu's interesting MindControl side-arc, Kamen Rider Thouser's well-received fighting style and the token Humagears of the arc [[WatchItForTheMeme being fine meme-material]] also generally come up in the arc's favor.

* ''Series/KamenRiderZeroOne'': Hoo boy, the Workplace Competition Arc is a doozy. While most agree that the Arc was an interesting way to introduce Aruto to how cut-throat the business world can be and that it went on for [[ArcFatigue way too long]], the divisiveness stems from how far the good outweighs the bad. Detractors see the arc as an over-bloated AllForNothing spectacle that allowed ArcVillain Gai Amatsu [[PlotArmor carte-blanche]] for a whole third of the show, tap-dancing past WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief on so many occasions [[spoiler: while completely getting away with it]] that Aruto (who spends most of the arc [[CurbStompBattle getting effortlessly ragdolled]]) was [[FailureHero hard to root for in comparison]]. Those that like it emphasize the addition of [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Metal Cluster Hopper]] as providing a [[CharacterDevelopment nice character-moment]] for RobotBuddy Is, Secondary Rider Isamu's interesting MindControl side-arc, Kamen Rider Thouser's well-received fighting style and the token Humagears of the arc as [[WatchItForTheMeme being fine meme-material]].

* ''Series/KamenRiderZeroOne'': Hoo boy, the Workplace Competition Arc is a doozy. While most agree that the Arc was an interesting way to introduce Aruto to how cut-throat the business world can be and that it went on for [[ArcFatigue way too long]], the divisiveness stems from how far the good outweighs the bad. Detractors see the arc as an over-bloated AllForNothing spectacle that allowed Gai Amatsu [[PlotArmor carte-blanche]] for a whole third of the show, tap-dancing past WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief on so many occasions [[spoiler: while completely getting away with it]] that Aruto (who spends most of the arc [[CurbStompBattle getting effortlessly ragdolled]]) was [[FailureHero hard to root for in comparison]]. Those that like it emphasize the addition of [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Metal Cluster Hopper]] as providing a [[CharacterDevelopment nice character-moment]] for RobotBuddy Is, Secondary Rider Isamu's interesting MindControl side-arc, Kamen Rider Thouser's well-received fighting style and the token Humagears of the arc as [[WatchItForTheMeme being fine meme-material]].

* ''Series/KamenRiderZiO'': ''Zi-O'' remains a divisive season among Rider fans. It's either a spectacular tribute to the Heisei Era of ''Kamen Rider'' with an endearing cast of characters and creative concepts that [[BellisariosMaxim doesn't let canon]] [[NarmCharm bring it down]] or it's so tunnel-visioned on its tributes that its [[FlatCharacter incomplete characters]] and [[HandWave sheer amount of plot lines that go nowhere]] cause it to buckle under the weight of its legacy and implode. That's not even getting into its finale, whose [[spoiler:[[ResetButton re-establishment of Kamen Rider as a segmented Multiverse]] is either a TimeyWimeyBall-untangling CosmicRetcon or an AllForNothing lore-breaking sideshow that [[SchrodingersCanon just needles the legitimacy of already-downplayed crossovers and cameos]]]].

* ''Series/KamenRiderZiO'': ''Zi-O'' remains a divisive season among Rider fans. It's either a spectacular tribute to the Heisei Era of ''Kamen Rider'' with an endearing cast of characters and creative concepts that doesn't take itself too seriously or it's a discombobulated mess of tropes so tunnel-visioned on its tributes that its incomplete characters, [[AbortedArc Aborted Arcs]] and [[RetCon Retcons]] cause it to ultimately buckle under the weight of the legacy it's carrying. That's not even getting into its finale, whose [[spoiler:[[ResetButton re-establishment of Kamen Rider as a segmented Multiverse]] is either a necessary CosmicRetcon or an AllForNothing lore-breaking sideshow]].

*** Uninclusiveness. Creator/{{RuPaul}} has made several controversial statements towards transgender people over the years, as well as the fact that he doesn't allow post-op trans women, drag kings, or bioqueens (cisgender women who perform female drag) to compete on the show. The usual retort is that limiting the competition to men and pre-op trans women helps maintain an even playing field, which has lead to many a debate over the very definition of drag, as well as whether or not one can watch the show to enjoy the contestants without necessarily agreeing with [=RuPaul=] (the show has since softened its stance on who is allowed to compete).

%%Zero Context Example* ''Series/TheWubbulousWorldOfDrSeuss'': Was moving it to Creator/NickJr a good idea or not?
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* ''Series/DarkAngel'' had such a major {{Retool}} between its two season that they are basically two completely different shows. Fans of the first season have one set of heroes, villains, central themes, and canon; fans of the second have quite a different set with shocking little overlap. Creator/JensenAckles is an especially polarizing figure even in the tiny sect of the fanbase that enjoys both seasons.