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* As seen in ''VideoGame/Splatoon2'''s Octo Expansion, Cap'n Cuttlefish is normally inclined to see Octarians as enemies by default, but this is overridden by his belief that anyone who likes the song "Calamari Inkantation" is trustworthy.
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**** That is, of course, because part of his role as a soldier is to follow the orders of his commanding officer, and he's currently serving under your character, so he sees the scolding as very deserved.
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Examples Are Not Arguable, and she is an approved CM which means she understands conventional morality enough to not be this.


* ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' has a ymmv case with Hades Izanami, who wants to kill everything. Not out of malice, or as a some sort of [[BalancingDeathsBooks cosmic bookkeeper]], she genuinely seems to believe death is a precious gift and it's a privilege to bestow it upon another. This puts her at odds with pretty much everyone else, who would rather not die. Izanami treats people who resist much like children who resist brushing their teeth - it'll help in the long run, even if they don't understand from their perspective right now.
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** Ignus sees everything in terms of Fire. Things that are on fire are good. Things that are not on fire are bad, unless they have been on fire. Things that burn well are less immoral than things that burn poorly, though still immoral because they are not on fire. Fat people are morally superior to thin people, because they contain more deliciously flammable fat. And so it goes. It should also be mentioned that Ignus is an OmnicidalManiac whose end goal is to burn everything in the universe, and then take a nap on the ashes. His Wisdom score is also so low that he is barely considered sentient.
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** The Orz are friendly enough with most anyone they meet, if near impossible to understand because [[StarfishLanguage their language is so bizarre]]. They seem happy to form alliances and aid in battle. They also get [[BerserkButton angry]] (or *frumple*, as they put it) enough to start a war if anyone talks about the Androsynth, for reasons unknown. A prominent, but unproven theory is that they wiped out the Androsynth, again for reasons unknown. Then there's the fact that nobody ''really'' knows what they mean by *connecting*, *parties*, or *enjoying the sauce*. There are many hints in the story that these seemingly innocuous terms mask a sinister meaning, but that's all they are -- hints. It's impossible to say for certain. They themselves seem to fall victim to this trope: when they greet the player in deep space, they state that they don't understand why *campers* (aka us) always say "hello" when they meet each other, but they do know this makes *campers* happy, so they do it too. One of the theories surrounding the Orz, confirmed by WordOfGod, is that they appear like individuals to us, but are in fact a single organism existing outside our universe, alone in its own dimension. This is why the Orz creatures you meet tend to call themselves "fingers", protruding into our space from *Outside*. Orz probably doesn't understand the concept of separate individuals living in the same universe, which would lead it to assume that all the creatures it meets in our universe are just fingers of another being. Therefore, to Orz it would appear as though it has met someone whose fingers keep talking to each other, which is very odd, but they may as well play along.

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** The Orz are friendly enough with most anyone they meet, if near impossible to understand because [[StarfishLanguage their language is so bizarre]]. They seem happy to form alliances and aid in battle. They also get [[BerserkButton angry]] angry (or *frumple*, as they put it) enough to start a war if anyone talks about the Androsynth, for reasons unknown. A prominent, but unproven theory is that they wiped out the Androsynth, again for reasons unknown. Then there's the fact that nobody ''really'' knows what they mean by *connecting*, *parties*, or *enjoying the sauce*. There are many hints in the story that these seemingly innocuous terms mask a sinister meaning, but that's all they are -- hints. It's impossible to say for certain. They themselves seem to fall victim to this trope: when they greet the player in deep space, they state that they don't understand why *campers* (aka us) always say "hello" when they meet each other, but they do know this makes *campers* happy, so they do it too. One of the theories surrounding the Orz, confirmed by WordOfGod, is that they appear like individuals to us, but are in fact a single organism existing outside our universe, alone in its own dimension. This is why the Orz creatures you meet tend to call themselves "fingers", protruding into our space from *Outside*. Orz probably doesn't understand the concept of separate individuals living in the same universe, which would lead it to assume that all the creatures it meets in our universe are just fingers of another being. Therefore, to Orz it would appear as though it has met someone whose fingers keep talking to each other, which is very odd, but they may as well play along.
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* In ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianSun'', Kane's primary plot is to build and launch a world-altering [[GreenRocks Tiberium]] missile that will spread Tiberium across the entire planet. He states that this will trigger the next step of humanity's evolution as a species. He believes in peace through superior firepower, but just as a mean to achieve his goal of evolving mankind against the reactionary forces of GDI, and not for simple personal gains. For him, Tiberium is not a dangerous source of illness, mysery and death, but a potential tool.

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* In ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianSun'', Kane's primary plot is to build and launch a world-altering [[GreenRocks Tiberium]] missile that will spread Tiberium across the entire planet. He states that this will trigger the next step of humanity's evolution as a species. He believes in peace through superior firepower, but just as a mean to achieve his goal of evolving mankind against the reactionary forces of GDI, and not for simple personal gains. For him, Tiberium is not a dangerous source of illness, mysery misery and death, but a potential tool.tool to access the next step of humanity.
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* In ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianSun'', Kane's primary plot is to build and launch a world-altering [[GreenRocks Tiberium]] missile that will spread Tiberium across the entire planet. He states that this will trigger the next step of humanity's evolution as a species. He believes in peace through superior firepower, but just as a mean to achieve his goal of evolving mankind against the reactionary forces of GDI, and not for simple personal gains. For him, Tiberium is not a dangerous source of illness, mysery and death, but a potential tool.
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* ''VideoGame/SOMA'': the WAU has noble aims and [[AIIsACrapshoot abominable methods]]. [[spoiler:Its goal is to keep what remains of humanity alive, and by god, it's going to do that, even if it means mutating them into hideous forms with structure gel or uploading their minds into robots. The survivors being [[AndIMustScream in horrible pain and unable to die]], or going insane, is irrelevant as long as there's a pulse and a working brain.]]

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* ''VideoGame/SOMA'': ''VideoGame/{{SOMA}}'': the WAU has noble aims and [[AIIsACrapshoot abominable methods]]. [[spoiler:Its goal is to keep what remains of humanity alive, and by god, it's going to do that, even if it means mutating them into hideous forms with structure gel or uploading their minds into robots. The survivors being [[AndIMustScream in horrible pain and unable to die]], or going insane, is irrelevant as long as there's a pulse and a working brain.]]
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* ''VideoGame/SOMA'': the WAU has noble aims and [[AIIsACrapshoot abominable methods]]. [[spoiler:Its goal is to keep what remains of humanity alive, and by god, it's going to do that, even if it means mutating them into hideous forms with structure gel or uploading their minds into robots. The survivors being [[AndIMustScream in horrible pain and unable to die]], or going insane, is irrelevant as long as there's a pulse and a working brain.]]
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** The Frenzied Flame is a god of destruction and despair whose goal is to end the world, but if you've progressed Hyetta's questline to the point where she can explain its motives to you, she'll tell you that the Frenzied Flame considers life to be a "mistake" caused by the Greater Will dividing up the primordial source known as the One Great. All suffering in life comes because it is an inherently flawed way to exist, and as such the only way to remove suffering is to fix this mistake; i.e. end the world and return all life to the One Great.

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** The game also has a set of ethics parameters that are quite easy to [[GameMod modify]], making it simple to create a race or modify an existing one with strange moral values.

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** The game also has a set of ethics parameters that are quite easy to [[GameMod modify]], making it simple to create a race or modify an existing one with strange moral values. Wanna create a society that considers lying worse than murder? Okay. Or maybe one that considers it unthinkable to kill any living thing, including ''plants'', but encourages slavery? Perfectly fine. They're probably going to come into conflict with the more normal civs during worldgen (civs with different values are horrified by others practicing things they find abhorrent), but that often happens anyway.


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* ''VideoGame/EldenRing'': Followers of most Outer Gods tend to have philosophies that clash with most normal perceptions of morality.
** The Scarlet Rot, a singularly nasty disease best described as 'poison if it were made of radium', is actually the manifestation of an Outer God with power over plants, disease, despair, and [[CameBackWrong rebirth]]. Sage Gowry, a Rot worshipper, encourages you to betray his adopted daughter Millicent (who's afflicted with the Rot), because if she falls into despair, the rot will overtake her and she'll "flower" into a Scarlet Valkyrie. He sees this as a ''good'' thing for Millicent, who he seems to genuinely care about.
** The Formless Mother is a CombatSadomasochist who shows love through violence and injury... and also seeks to ''be'' loved in the same way. The game's BloodMagic is described as manifesting the Formless Mother's blood via magically wounding her, something she welcomes.
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** The geth, being a purely software "species" that must network their minds together to achieve intelligence, take very different views on topics of individuality, free will, etc. This comes to a head in one mission in ''Mass Effect 2'', [[spoiler:where Legion, an allied geth helping to attack the hostile "heretic" geth, is conflicted over whether to just delete the heretics ("killing" them) or introduce a virus that will bring them around to the mainstream geth's way of thinking. Shepard will comment that the latter option sounds a lot like brainwashing, but Legion isn't so sure that's an accurate view of what the virus would do, and even says that applying human standards of free will to the geth ("even benign anthropomorphism") is inherently a racist attitude, since their minds function so differently in the first place. The game treats both choices as morally grey, with none of the characters, Legion included, certain of what the moral decision would be in this case (this is why it falls to Shepard; the programs that make up Legion are evenly divided and need someone to break the tie). Legion is also baffled and dismayed that the Heretics would ''spy'' on "true Geth", because it felt "once HiveMind, always HiveMind".]]

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** The geth, being a purely software "species" that must network their minds together to achieve intelligence, take very different views on topics of individuality, free will, etc. This comes to a head in one mission in ''Mass Effect 2'', [[spoiler:where Legion, an allied geth helping to attack the hostile "heretic" geth, is conflicted over whether to just delete the heretics ("killing" them) or introduce a virus that will bring them around to the mainstream geth's way of thinking. Shepard will comment that the latter option sounds a lot like brainwashing, but Legion isn't so sure that's an accurate view of what the virus would do, and even says that applying human standards of free will to the geth ("even benign anthropomorphism") is inherently a racist attitude, since their minds function so differently in the first place. The game treats both choices as morally grey, with none of the characters, characters (except a few who already have strong opinions on the topic, like Jack), Legion included, certain of what the moral decision would be in this case (this is why it falls to Shepard; the programs that make up Legion are evenly divided and need someone to break the tie). Legion is also baffled and dismayed that the Heretics would ''spy'' on "true Geth", because it felt "once HiveMind, always HiveMind".]]
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** [[SpaceRomans Turians]] are simultaneously one of the most akin to humans out of the three Council Races (they have very similar life spans and methods of reproduction, right down to similar concepts in genders), while arguably the most alien of the three Council Races. Granted, this is [[DownplayedTrope downplayed somewhat]] as turian morality is recognizable to humans, but that doesn't make it any less ''strange.'' They are extremely collectivist by human standards and run the state on an autocratic meritocracy that rewards results while prioritizes mutual responsibility; this leads to them being "anything goes" with regards to how turian individuals work, as long as they do their job and do it well (which is the only reason the [[PlanetOfHats otherwise straight-laced turians]] are so tolerant of [[TheSnarkKnight Garrus]] or any other potential [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyers]]). On the flipside to this, however, they see failure relative to a civilian's social rank not as a failing of the individual, but the ''person who promoted them'' for [[YouAreNotReady giving them a rank they were not ready for]]. Needless to say, [[CowboyCop Garrus]]' sentiments about being "[not a very] good turian" make perfect sense as a result. There's also other aspects of their ethics that would seem strange to an outsider, such a dishonesty often being seen as one of the worst taboos in turian culture, to the point that turian villains [[VillainsNeverLie never lie]], as they're ''expected'' to be honest with their sins. This is also why not having facial markings from what colony you're from is seen as a taboo, as the term "bare-face" is generally used by turians for anyone perceived as dishonest or treacherous.

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** [[SpaceRomans Turians]] are simultaneously one of the most akin to humans out of the three Council Races (they have very similar life spans and methods of reproduction, right down to similar concepts in genders), while arguably the most alien of the three Council Races. Granted, this is [[DownplayedTrope downplayed somewhat]] as turian morality is recognizable to humans, but that doesn't make it any less ''strange.'' They are extremely collectivist by human standards and run the state on an autocratic meritocracy that rewards results while prioritizes mutual responsibility; this leads to them being "anything goes" with regards to how turian individuals work, as long as they do their job and do it well (which is the only reason the [[PlanetOfHats otherwise straight-laced turians]] are so tolerant of [[TheSnarkKnight Garrus]] or any other potential [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyers]]). On the flipside to this, however, they see failure relative to a civilian's social rank not as a failing of the individual, but the ''person who promoted them'' for [[YouAreNotReady giving them a rank they were not ready for]]. Needless to say, [[CowboyCop Garrus]]' sentiments about being "[not a very] good turian" make perfect sense as a result. There's also other aspects of their ethics that would seem strange to an outsider, such a dishonesty often being seen as one of the worst taboos in turian culture, to the point that turian villains [[VillainsNeverLie never lie]], as they're ''expected'' to be honest with their sins. This is also why not having facial markings from what colony you're from is seen as a taboo, as the term "bare-face" is generally used by turians for anyone perceived as dishonest or treacherous. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And politicians]], though those have an excuse in that Turian facepaint shows factional allegiance, while politicians are meant to represent the Turians as a whole and thus can't show favoritism via the face markings.

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* Downplayed in ''VideoGame/MonsterLovesYou''. Downplayed. While Monster morality bears many similarities to Human morality, there are some key differences. Monsters view Ferocity (the willingness to do harm) and Cleverness (even when used to deceive others) as virtues. Granted, there are positive and negative means to increase almost all stats, but until you reach Elder status, the game doesn't account for what you did to gain the stats.
** Moreover, all of your Monster's stats are handled as an either/or condition: either you have a high enough Bravery stat to be considered courageous, or you don't. There's no sliding scale between, say, Bravery and Cautiousness. Monsters don't do nuance, apparently.

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* Downplayed in ''VideoGame/MonsterLovesYou''. Downplayed. While Monster morality bears many similarities to Human morality, there are some key differences. Monsters view Ferocity (the willingness to do harm) and Cleverness (even when used to deceive others) as virtues. Granted, there are positive and negative means to increase almost all stats, but until you reach Elder status, the game doesn't account for what you did to gain the stats.
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stats. Moreover, all of your Monster's stats are handled as an either/or condition: either you have a high enough Bravery stat to be considered courageous, or you don't. There's no sliding scale between, say, Bravery and Cautiousness. Monsters don't do nuance, apparently.apparently.
* ''VideoGame/{{Omori}}'':
** As the Branch Coral states, [[spoiler:[[MonsterWhale Hungry Humphrey]]]] has lived for so long that "age has withered his conscience". He is perfectly friendly and welcoming to Omori and friends when they visit, and is a fun guy to be around... unless his Slime Girls need a test subject or he gets hungry, in which case he will lead you to your death with no remorse. He will even eat the Slime Girls he has harbored for so long. Meanwhile, if Omori and the party returns, he has no hard feelings and treats them like visiting friends despite trying to eat them last time and them fighting back with all their might.
** Like [[spoiler:Humphrey]], the Slime Girls don't see anything wrong with experimenting on innocent creatures or trying to make four kids into test subjects. In addition, in the Hikkikomori route, they casually ask the very kids they tried to kill earlier for favors and leave them alone otherwise- they don't attack them or even acknowledge the attempted assault. Nor do they hold a grudge against [[spoiler:Humphrey]] for [[spoiler:eating their bodies and leaving them headless]].

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* ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'': Gravelord Nito has a strange view of morality centered on spreading death and decay, as such is the nature of his Lord Soul, but also protecting and guiding the Undead, who are normally reviled. He's generally content to stick to this duty without being much of a player in Lordran politics, despite being a Lord.



** The [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Princes]] have this in full force as AboveGoodAndEvil {{Eldritch Abomination}}s with motives and morality far beyond mortal understanding. While some (Azura, Meridia) are typically considered "good" and others (Molag Bal, Mehrunes Dagon) are typically considered "evil" in the eyes of mortals, even scholars in-universe will contend that applying concepts of mortal morality to the Daedra operates on flawed assumptions. Those Princes who seem "good" are only that way because their actions more often than not are benevolent toward mortals, while those who are "evil" are typically more malevolent. Additionally, the majority of Princes have at times shown both good and bad aspects. For example, Mehrunes Dagon, [[OmnicidalManiac Prince of Destruction]], has repeatedly attempted to take over and destroy Mundus, which most mortals would agree is a very bad thing. However, "change" also falls within his sphere, and without forces of change, there could be no mortal world.

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** The [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Princes]] have this in full force as AboveGoodAndEvil {{Eldritch Abomination}}s with motives and morality far beyond mortal understanding. While some (Azura, Meridia) are typically considered "good" and others (Molag Bal, Mehrunes Dagon) are typically considered "evil" in the eyes of mortals, even scholars in-universe will contend that applying concepts of mortal morality to the Daedra operates on flawed assumptions. Those Princes who seem "good" are only that way because their actions more often than not are benevolent toward mortals, while those who are "evil" are typically more malevolent. Additionally, the majority of Princes have at times shown both good and bad aspects. For example, Mehrunes Dagon, [[OmnicidalManiac Prince of Destruction]], has repeatedly attempted to take over and destroy Mundus, which most mortals would agree is a very bad thing. However, "change" also falls within his sphere, and without forces of change, there could be no mortal world. The only Daedric Prince who is ''absolutely'' evil and has no attempts made to portray him otherwise is Molag Bal, Prince of Corruption and Rape.
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* Haer'Dalis from ''Videogame/BaldursGate II'' is remarkably natural in following the alien philosophy of the Doomguard, perhaps more so than most of its adherents. He's basically a balanced nice guy who wants to see the world burn -- not by causing it, at least necessarily, but watching it fall apart by itself, which he sees as more exciting than regrettable. He's passionate about things, but does not desire for them to last, treating everything more like a fleeting artistic performance ending in destruction. Though ChaoticNeutral, he can win the love of the LawfulGood Aerie, only to have her leave him later when she sees the difference in the ways in which they care about things -- and each other.

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* Haer'Dalis from ''Videogame/BaldursGate II'' ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'' is remarkably natural in following the alien philosophy of the Doomguard, perhaps more so than most of its adherents. He's basically a balanced nice guy who wants to see the world burn -- not by causing it, at least necessarily, but watching it fall apart by itself, which he sees as more exciting than regrettable. He's passionate about things, but does not desire for them to last, treating everything more like a fleeting artistic performance ending in destruction. Though ChaoticNeutral, he can win the love of the LawfulGood Aerie, only to have her leave him later when she sees the difference in the ways in which they care about things -- and each other.



* ''Videogame/{{Destiny}}'' discusses this with each of the alien factions, who all have a distinctly alien morality.

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* ''Videogame/PlanescapeTorment:'' Coaxmetal's clearly leaning towards the Chaos end of Order vs. Chaos, but his reasons for it are clearly alien for most. He sees destruction as innately necessary, and decay as the one thing everything has in common. To him, the time for the multiverse itself to be unmade is always coming, and while speeding it up would be fine and dandy it's not needed; it simply has to happen in the end, and he'll be happy to fuel it. He's also convinced that entropic decay ''can'' be stopped, but it ''shouldn't'' be, because when a thing seals itself against its own destruction "[[FateWorseThanDeath it merely dies a different death]]". Thus, everything has to die. One day, [[OmnicidalManiac sooner could be better]], but so long as it happens eventually all is right, and his goal is to make sure the process is still coming along.

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* ''Videogame/PlanescapeTorment:'' ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment:'' Coaxmetal's clearly leaning towards the Chaos end of Order vs. Chaos, but his reasons for it are clearly alien for most. He sees destruction as innately necessary, and decay as the one thing everything has in common. To him, the time for the multiverse itself to be unmade is always coming, and while speeding it up would be fine and dandy it's not needed; it simply has to happen in the end, and he'll be happy to fuel it. He's also convinced that entropic decay ''can'' be stopped, but it ''shouldn't'' be, because when a thing seals itself against its own destruction "[[FateWorseThanDeath it merely dies a different death]]". Thus, everything has to die. One day, [[OmnicidalManiac sooner could be better]], but so long as it happens eventually all is right, and his goal is to make sure the process is still coming along.



* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'''s setting of [[FantasyKitchenSink Gensokyo]] is a FantasticNaturePreserve founded as a refuge against the scientific revolution, and a newcomer figured out that she'd fit in faster if she abandoned common sense. Most of its inhabitants are [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld long-lived]] {{youkai}}, so things like [[ImAHumanitarian eating humans]] (or [[CarnivoreConfusion other youkai]]) are not at all unheard of, and there have apparently been agreements on which humans are permissible to attack and eat (mainly those who aren't in an established safe place at night). Another thing of note is that youkai are typically "born" with the knowledge of what their purpose in life is [[note]]it's strongly implied that their purpose is to either just oppose humanity or to follow what the humans' legends say their species do; e.g., a vampire's purpose in life would be to drink blood[[/note]], meaning that they have all achieved enlightenment. Finally, the adoption of the [[NonLethalKO spellcard rules]] governing combat means that it's perfectly sensible to go around and pick fights with random strangers in order to resolve a conflict, or simply because you're bored.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'''s ''Franchise/TouhouProject'''s setting of [[FantasyKitchenSink Gensokyo]] is a FantasticNaturePreserve founded as a refuge against the scientific revolution, and a newcomer figured out that she'd fit in faster if she abandoned common sense. Most of its inhabitants are [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld long-lived]] {{youkai}}, so things like [[ImAHumanitarian eating humans]] (or [[CarnivoreConfusion other youkai]]) are not at all unheard of, and there have apparently been agreements on which humans are permissible to attack and eat (mainly those who aren't in an established safe place at night). Another thing of note is that youkai are typically "born" with the knowledge of what their purpose in life is [[note]]it's strongly implied that their purpose is to either just oppose humanity or to follow what the humans' legends say their species do; e.g., a vampire's purpose in life would be to drink blood[[/note]], meaning that they have all achieved enlightenment. Finally, the adoption of the [[NonLethalKO spellcard rules]] governing combat means that it's perfectly sensible to go around and pick fights with random strangers in order to resolve a conflict, or simply because you're bored.



** [[FeatheredFiend The Night Raven]] is a seriously [[CreepyCrows Creepy Crow]] and a ThievingMagpie that might hurt and/or kill anyone who so much as looks at it, but it shows no ill intent at all.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Monark}}'', the True Student Council's ally Vanitas makes no secret about him being a Daemon like the rest of the supernatural, evil threats plaguing Shin Mikado Academy, but he does not particularly see himself as "evil" and the game paints him as AmbiguouslyEvil. He does not subscribe to any human notions of "good" or "evil", the only thing he respects, admires, and believes to be valued above all else is having a strong "Ego"--that is, the desire and the drive to believe and achieve what it is ''you'' want, against what anyone else or the world says.
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** [[SpaceRomans Turians]] are simultaneously one of the most akin to humans out of the three Council Races (they have very similar life spans and methods of reproduction, right down to similar concepts in genders), while arguably the most alien of the three Council Races. Granted, this is [[DownplayedTrope downplayed somewhat]] as turian morality is recognizable to humans, but that doesn't make it any less ''strange.'' They are extremely collectivist by human standards and run the state on an autocratic meritocracy that rewards results while prioritizes mutual responsibility; this leads to them being "anything goes" with regards to how turian individuals work, as long as they do their job and do it well (which is the only reason the [[PlanetOfHats otherwise straight-laced turians]] are so tolerant of [[TheSnarkKnight Garrus]] or any other potential [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyers]]). On the flipside to this, however, they see failure relative to a civilian's social rank not as a failing of the individual, but the ''person who promoted them'' for [[YouAreNotReady giving them a rank the individual was not ready for]]. Needless to say, [[CowboyCop Garrus]]' sentiments about being "[not a very] good turian" make perfect sense as a result. There's also other aspects of their ethics that would seem strange to an outsider, such a dishonesty often being seen as one of the worst taboos in turian culture, to the point that turian villains [[VillainsNeverLie never lie]], as they're ''expected'' to be honest with their sins. This is also why not having facial markings from what colony you're from is seen as a taboo, as the term "bare-face" is generally used by turians for anyone perceived as dishonest or treacherous.

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** [[SpaceRomans Turians]] are simultaneously one of the most akin to humans out of the three Council Races (they have very similar life spans and methods of reproduction, right down to similar concepts in genders), while arguably the most alien of the three Council Races. Granted, this is [[DownplayedTrope downplayed somewhat]] as turian morality is recognizable to humans, but that doesn't make it any less ''strange.'' They are extremely collectivist by human standards and run the state on an autocratic meritocracy that rewards results while prioritizes mutual responsibility; this leads to them being "anything goes" with regards to how turian individuals work, as long as they do their job and do it well (which is the only reason the [[PlanetOfHats otherwise straight-laced turians]] are so tolerant of [[TheSnarkKnight Garrus]] or any other potential [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyers]]). On the flipside to this, however, they see failure relative to a civilian's social rank not as a failing of the individual, but the ''person who promoted them'' for [[YouAreNotReady giving them a rank the individual was they were not ready for]]. Needless to say, [[CowboyCop Garrus]]' sentiments about being "[not a very] good turian" make perfect sense as a result. There's also other aspects of their ethics that would seem strange to an outsider, such a dishonesty often being seen as one of the worst taboos in turian culture, to the point that turian villains [[VillainsNeverLie never lie]], as they're ''expected'' to be honest with their sins. This is also why not having facial markings from what colony you're from is seen as a taboo, as the term "bare-face" is generally used by turians for anyone perceived as dishonest or treacherous.
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** [[SpaceRomans Turians]] are simultaneously one of the most akin to humans out of the three Council Races (they have very similar life spans and methods of reproduction, right down to similar concepts in genders), while arguably the most alien of the three Council Races. Granted, this is [[DownplayedTrope downplayed somewhat]] as turian morality is recognizable to humans, but that doesn't make it any less ''strange.'' They are extremely collectivist by human standards and run the state on an autocratic meritocracy that rewards results while prioritizes mutual responsibility; this leads to them being "anything goes" with regards to how turian individuals work, as long as they do their job and do it well (which is the only reason the [[PlanetOfHats otherwise straight-laced turians]] are so tolerant of [[TheSnarkKnight Garrus]] or any other potential [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyers]]). Yet paradoxically they see failure relative to a civilian's social rank not as a failing of the individual, but the ''person who promoted them'' for [[YouAreNotReady giving them a rank the individual was not ready for]]. Needless to say, [[CowboyCop Garrus]]' sentiments about being "[not a very] good turian" make perfect sense as a result. There's also other aspects of their ethics that would seem strange to an outsider, such a dishonesty often being seen as one of the worst taboos in turian culture, to the point that turian villains [[VillainsNeverLie never lie]], as they're ''expected'' to be honest with their sins. This is also why not having facial markings from what colony you're from is seen as a taboo, as the term "bare-face" is generally used by turians for anyone perceived as dishonest or treacherous.

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** [[SpaceRomans Turians]] are simultaneously one of the most akin to humans out of the three Council Races (they have very similar life spans and methods of reproduction, right down to similar concepts in genders), while arguably the most alien of the three Council Races. Granted, this is [[DownplayedTrope downplayed somewhat]] as turian morality is recognizable to humans, but that doesn't make it any less ''strange.'' They are extremely collectivist by human standards and run the state on an autocratic meritocracy that rewards results while prioritizes mutual responsibility; this leads to them being "anything goes" with regards to how turian individuals work, as long as they do their job and do it well (which is the only reason the [[PlanetOfHats otherwise straight-laced turians]] are so tolerant of [[TheSnarkKnight Garrus]] or any other potential [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyers]]). Yet paradoxically On the flipside to this, however, they see failure relative to a civilian's social rank not as a failing of the individual, but the ''person who promoted them'' for [[YouAreNotReady giving them a rank the individual was not ready for]]. Needless to say, [[CowboyCop Garrus]]' sentiments about being "[not a very] good turian" make perfect sense as a result. There's also other aspects of their ethics that would seem strange to an outsider, such a dishonesty often being seen as one of the worst taboos in turian culture, to the point that turian villains [[VillainsNeverLie never lie]], as they're ''expected'' to be honest with their sins. This is also why not having facial markings from what colony you're from is seen as a taboo, as the term "bare-face" is generally used by turians for anyone perceived as dishonest or treacherous.
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** [[SpaceRomans Turians]] are simultaneously one of the most akin to humans out of the three Council Races (they have very similar life spans and methods of reproduction, right down to similar concepts in genders), while arguably the most alien of the three Council Races. Granted, this is [[DownplayedTrope downplayed somewhat]] as turian morality is recognizable to humans, but that doesn't make it any less ''strange.'' They are extremely collectivist by human standards and run the state on an autocratic meritocracy that rewards results while prioritizes mutual responsibility; this leads to them being "anything goes" with regards to how turian individuals work, as long as they do their job and do it well (which is the only reason the [[PlanetOfHats otherwise straight-laced turians]] are so tolerant of [[TheMcCoy Garrus]] or any other potential [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyers]]). Yet paradoxically they see failure relative to a civilian's social rank not as a failing of the individual, but the ''person who promoted them'' for [[YouAreNotReady giving them a rank the individual was not ready for]]. Needless to say, [[CowboyCop Garrus]]' sentiments about being "[not a very] good turian" make perfect sense as a result. There's also other aspects of their ethics that would seem strange to an outsider, such a dishonesty often being seen as one of the worst taboos in turian culture, to the point that turian villains [[VillainsNeverLie never lie]], as they're ''expected'' to be honest with their sins. This is also why not having facial markings from what colony you're from is seen as a taboo, as the term "bare-face" is generally used by turians for anyone perceived as dishonest or treacherous.

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** [[SpaceRomans Turians]] are simultaneously one of the most akin to humans out of the three Council Races (they have very similar life spans and methods of reproduction, right down to similar concepts in genders), while arguably the most alien of the three Council Races. Granted, this is [[DownplayedTrope downplayed somewhat]] as turian morality is recognizable to humans, but that doesn't make it any less ''strange.'' They are extremely collectivist by human standards and run the state on an autocratic meritocracy that rewards results while prioritizes mutual responsibility; this leads to them being "anything goes" with regards to how turian individuals work, as long as they do their job and do it well (which is the only reason the [[PlanetOfHats otherwise straight-laced turians]] are so tolerant of [[TheMcCoy [[TheSnarkKnight Garrus]] or any other potential [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyers]]). Yet paradoxically they see failure relative to a civilian's social rank not as a failing of the individual, but the ''person who promoted them'' for [[YouAreNotReady giving them a rank the individual was not ready for]]. Needless to say, [[CowboyCop Garrus]]' sentiments about being "[not a very] good turian" make perfect sense as a result. There's also other aspects of their ethics that would seem strange to an outsider, such a dishonesty often being seen as one of the worst taboos in turian culture, to the point that turian villains [[VillainsNeverLie never lie]], as they're ''expected'' to be honest with their sins. This is also why not having facial markings from what colony you're from is seen as a taboo, as the term "bare-face" is generally used by turians for anyone perceived as dishonest or treacherous.
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** [[SpaceRomans Turians]] are simultaneously one of the most akin to humans out of the three Council Races (they have very similar life spans and methods of reproduction, right down to similar concepts in genders), while arguably the most alien of the three Council Races. Granted, this is [[DownplayedTrope downplayed somewhat]] as turian morality is recognizable to humans, but that doesn't make it any less ''strange.'' They are extremely collectivist by human standards and run the state on an autocratic meritocracy that rewards results while prioritizes mutual responsibility; this leads to them being "anything goes" with regards to how turian society works, as long as they do their job and do it well (which is the only reason the [[PlanetOfHats otherwise straight-laced turians]] are so tolerant of [[TheMcCoy Garrus]] or any other potential [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyers]]), yet paradoxically they see failure relative to a civilian's social rank not as a failing of the individual, but the ''person who promoted them'' for [[YouAreNotReady giving them a rank the individual was not ready for]]. Needless to say, [[CowboyCop Garrus]]' sentiments about being "[not a very] good turian" make perfect sense as a result. There's also other aspects of their ethics that would seem strange to an outsider, such a dishonesty often being seen as one of the worst taboos in turian culture, to the point that turian villains [[VillainsNeverLie never lie]], as they're ''expected'' to be honest with their sins. This is also why not having facial markings from what colony you're from is seen as a taboo, as the term "bare-face" is generally used by turians for anyone perceived as dishonest or treacherous.

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** [[SpaceRomans Turians]] are simultaneously one of the most akin to humans out of the three Council Races (they have very similar life spans and methods of reproduction, right down to similar concepts in genders), while arguably the most alien of the three Council Races. Granted, this is [[DownplayedTrope downplayed somewhat]] as turian morality is recognizable to humans, but that doesn't make it any less ''strange.'' They are extremely collectivist by human standards and run the state on an autocratic meritocracy that rewards results while prioritizes mutual responsibility; this leads to them being "anything goes" with regards to how turian society works, individuals work, as long as they do their job and do it well (which is the only reason the [[PlanetOfHats otherwise straight-laced turians]] are so tolerant of [[TheMcCoy Garrus]] or any other potential [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyers]]), yet Lawyers]]). Yet paradoxically they see failure relative to a civilian's social rank not as a failing of the individual, but the ''person who promoted them'' for [[YouAreNotReady giving them a rank the individual was not ready for]]. Needless to say, [[CowboyCop Garrus]]' sentiments about being "[not a very] good turian" make perfect sense as a result. There's also other aspects of their ethics that would seem strange to an outsider, such a dishonesty often being seen as one of the worst taboos in turian culture, to the point that turian villains [[VillainsNeverLie never lie]], as they're ''expected'' to be honest with their sins. This is also why not having facial markings from what colony you're from is seen as a taboo, as the term "bare-face" is generally used by turians for anyone perceived as dishonest or treacherous.
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** While [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy krogan]] [[DownplayedTrope aren't nearly as unfathomable morally]] as yahg are, they still often stand out due to how much their ideals [[DeliberateValuesDissonance rarely translate well in other societies]]. As a sapient species that evolved out of a DeathWorld that they were rescued for for another war only to be infected with [[SterilityPlague the Genophage]] as punishment for an attempted rebellion after the war, krogan have [[TheSocialDarwinist an extremely dim social view on perceived weaknesses]], [[KlingonPromotion and not only condones betrayal or usurping to challenge somebody unfit to rule]], but ''[[InvokedTrope expects]]'' it. It's to the point that they're one of the only if not ''the'' only species to see all forms of mercy in sparing one's life as CruelMercy, no matter how well-intended it was; to krogan, [[NotWorthKilling sparing them in battle after being bested without finishing them]] is considered [[DontYouDarePityMe the single biggest insult one could give to a krogan's honor]], as that implies that murdering your challenger in honorable combat is ''beneath'' you. It's subtle, but [[OldSoldier Wrex]] and [[SuperSoldier Grunt]] quietly (and sometimes, not-so-quietly) express confusion regarding Shepard possibly sparing a defeated opponent that can be spared, not really quite ''getting'' why they don't just [[WhyDontYouJustShootThem kill them then and there]] and be done with it.

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** While [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy krogan]] [[DownplayedTrope aren't nearly as unfathomable morally]] as yahg are, they still often stand out due to how much their ideals [[DeliberateValuesDissonance rarely translate well in other societies]]. As a sapient species that evolved out of a DeathWorld that they were rescued for for another war only to be infected with [[SterilityPlague the Genophage]] as punishment for an attempted rebellion after the war, krogan have [[TheSocialDarwinist an extremely dim social view on perceived weaknesses]], [[KlingonPromotion and not only condones betrayal or usurping to challenge somebody unfit to rule]], but ''[[InvokedTrope expects]]'' it. It's to the point that they're one of the only if not ''the'' only species to see all forms of mercy in sparing one's life as CruelMercy, no matter how well-intended it was; to krogan, [[NotWorthKilling sparing them in battle after being bested without finishing them]] is considered [[DontYouDarePityMe the single biggest insult one could give to a krogan's honor]], as that implies that murdering your challenger in honorable combat is ''beneath'' you. It's subtle, but [[OldSoldier Wrex]] and [[SuperSoldier Grunt]] quietly (and sometimes, not-so-quietly) express confusion regarding Shepard possibly sparing a defeated opponent that can be spared, not really quite ''getting'' why they don't just [[WhyDontYouJustShootThem [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim kill them then and there]] and be done with it.

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** [[SpaceRomans Turians]] are simultaneously one of the most akin to humans out of the three Council Races (they have very similar life spans and methods of reproduction, right down to similar concepts in genders), while arguably the most alien of the three Council Races. Granted, this is [[DownplayedTrope downplayed somewhat]] as turian morality is recognizable to humans, but that doesn't make it any less ''strange.'' They are extremely collectivist by human standards and run the state on an autocratic meritocracy that rewards results while prioritizes mutual responsibility; this leads to them being "anything goes" with regards to how turian society works, as long as they do their job and do it well (which is the only reason the [[PlanetOfHats otherwise straight-laced turians]] are so tolerant of [[TheMcCoy Garrus]] or any other potential [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyers]]), yet paradoxically they see failure relative to a civilian's social rank not as a failing of the individual, but the ''person who promoted them'' for [[YouAreNotReady giving them a rank the individual was not ready for]]. Needless to say, [[CowboyCop Garrus]]' sentiments about being "[not a very] good turian" make perfect sense as a result. There's also other aspects of their ethics that would seem strange to an outsider, such a dishonesty often being seen as one of the worst taboos in turian culture, to the point that turian villains [[VillainsNeverLie never lie]], as they're ''expected'' to be honest with their sins. This is also why not having facial markings from what colony you're from is seen as a taboo, as the term "bare-face" is generally used by turians for anyone perceived as dishonest or treacherous.



** The Yahg are highly aggressive and have a pack-based mentality. They can't cooperate until they choose a leader, which is done through either physical or mental combat. Once the leader is established, the defeated yahg do not hold a grudge and former rivals serve their new superior loyally. Because of this mindset, they see equality as an ''insult.'' This, combined with their [[LivingLieDetector propensity toward sensing body language]], lead to them massacring the Council's first contact team in 2125 and their homeworld being quarantined.

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** The Yahg are highly aggressive and have a pack-based mentality. They can't cooperate until they choose a leader, which is done through either physical or mental combat. Once the leader is established, the defeated yahg do not hold a grudge and former rivals serve their new superior loyally. Because of this mindset, they see equality as an ''insult.'' This, combined with their [[LivingLieDetector propensity toward sensing body language]], lead to them massacring the Council's first contact team in 2125 and their homeworld being quarantined.quarantined.
** While [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy krogan]] [[DownplayedTrope aren't nearly as unfathomable morally]] as yahg are, they still often stand out due to how much their ideals [[DeliberateValuesDissonance rarely translate well in other societies]]. As a sapient species that evolved out of a DeathWorld that they were rescued for for another war only to be infected with [[SterilityPlague the Genophage]] as punishment for an attempted rebellion after the war, krogan have [[TheSocialDarwinist an extremely dim social view on perceived weaknesses]], [[KlingonPromotion and not only condones betrayal or usurping to challenge somebody unfit to rule]], but ''[[InvokedTrope expects]]'' it. It's to the point that they're one of the only if not ''the'' only species to see all forms of mercy in sparing one's life as CruelMercy, no matter how well-intended it was; to krogan, [[NotWorthKilling sparing them in battle after being bested without finishing them]] is considered [[DontYouDarePityMe the single biggest insult one could give to a krogan's honor]], as that implies that murdering your challenger in honorable combat is ''beneath'' you. It's subtle, but [[OldSoldier Wrex]] and [[SuperSoldier Grunt]] quietly (and sometimes, not-so-quietly) express confusion regarding Shepard possibly sparing a defeated opponent that can be spared, not really quite ''getting'' why they don't just [[WhyDontYouJustShootThem kill them then and there]] and be done with it.
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*** Lostbelt:Beast IV (a.k.a. [[spoiler:Koyanskaya]]) is motivated by her love for animals while claiming that she hates humanity. She is able to become a Beast though since humans are ''technically'' considered to be animals.

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*** Lostbelt:Beast IV Beast IV: L (a.k.a. [[spoiler:Koyanskaya]]) is motivated by her love for animals while claiming that she hates humanity. She is able to become a Beast though since humans are ''technically'' considered to be animals.
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*** Lostbelt:Beast IV (a.k.a. [[spoiler:Koyanskaya]]) is motivated by her love for animals while claiming that she hates humanity. She is able to become a Beast though since humans are ''technically'' considered to be animals.
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* ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' has a ymmv case with Hades Izanami, who wants to kill everything. Not out of malice, or as a some sort of [[BalancingDeathsBooks cosmic bookkeeper]], she genuinely seems to believe death is a precious gift and it's a privilege to bestow it upon another. This puts her at odds with pretty much everyone else, who would rather not die. Izanami treats people who resist much like children who resist brushing their teeth - it'll help in the long run, even if they don't understand from their perspective right now.
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* Mr Crow and Mr Owl, the [[SurrealSymbolicHeads bird-headed humanoids]] of ''VideoGame/CubeEscape'', are caretakers of Rusty Lake, an enigmatic lake that lives off people's memories. Their true natures (demigods? humans who attained immortality? {{Civilized Animal}}s?), motives for overseeing the lake and whether or not they're good, evil, or neither have remained highly cryptic and ambiguous throughout the series so far. On one hand, they feed the lake by extracting the memories of dead humans and animal humanoids with a machine that has a disturbingly high risk of turning these dead souls into murderous {{Humanoid Abomination}}s and they appear to see nothing morally wrong about inviting guests to their hotel and then [[ImAHumanitarian turning them one by one into meals for the remaining guests]]. On the other hand, they ''are'' aware that their machine turning souls into terrifying horrors is a major problem, appear to be trying to fix it by helping a particular human AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, and ''Rusty Lake: Roots'' shows that they're willing to go out of their way to help save humans' lives... but only if they feel that it's necessary to further some larger plan of theirs.

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* Mr Crow and Mr Owl, the [[SurrealSymbolicHeads [[NonHumanHead bird-headed humanoids]] of ''VideoGame/CubeEscape'', are caretakers of Rusty Lake, an enigmatic lake that lives off people's memories. Their true natures (demigods? humans who attained immortality? {{Civilized Animal}}s?), motives for overseeing the lake and whether or not they're good, evil, or neither have remained highly cryptic and ambiguous throughout the series so far. On one hand, they feed the lake by extracting the memories of dead humans and animal humanoids with a machine that has a disturbingly high risk of turning these dead souls into murderous {{Humanoid Abomination}}s and they appear to see nothing morally wrong about inviting guests to their hotel and then [[ImAHumanitarian turning them one by one into meals for the remaining guests]]. On the other hand, they ''are'' aware that their machine turning souls into terrifying horrors is a major problem, appear to be trying to fix it by helping a particular human AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence, and ''Rusty Lake: Roots'' shows that they're willing to go out of their way to help save humans' lives... but only if they feel that it's necessary to further some larger plan of theirs.
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** The [[EldritchAbomination Voidborn]] all operate on a method of logic that makes very little sense to others. They all have an extreme "need". Cho'Gath [[ExtremeOmnivore wants to eat]] ''[[OmnicidalManiac everything]]''; Kog'Maw also wants to [[BigEater eat]] [[ExtremeOmnivore everything]], though in his case it's for the fact of growing as opposed to Cho'Gath's maliciousness; Kha'Zix exists only to [[TheAssimilator consume and adapt]]; [[MadScientist Vel'Koz]] has an extreme need to learn. Normally, this wouldn't be that bad... except the way he learns is by ''[[EnemyScan disintegrating things]]''.

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** The [[EldritchAbomination Voidborn]] all operate on a method of logic that makes very little sense to others. They all have an extreme "need". Cho'Gath [[ExtremeOmnivore wants to eat]] ''[[OmnicidalManiac everything]]''; Kog'Maw also wants to [[BigEater eat]] [[ExtremeOmnivore everything]], though in his case it's for the fact of growing as opposed to Cho'Gath's maliciousness; Kha'Zix exists only to [[TheAssimilator consume and adapt]]; [[MadScientist Vel'Koz]] has an extreme need to learn. Normally, this wouldn't be that bad... except the way he learns is by ''[[EnemyScan disintegrating things]]''. In particular, Vel'koz's desire to learn is so strong that it overrides his loyalty to the Void - he will fight to protect the few things he believes will offer more knowledge if preserved than if he was to disintegrate them...a category that, unfortunately, does not include too many people.



** Nagakaborous, the resident oceanic EldritchAbomination goddess of Bilgewater, desires the world to be constantly stirred in "motion", favoring that mortals take initiative and fight to seize their desires, while damning those who remain submissive and stagnant. This extends to her [[BadassPreacher Illaoi, the Kraken Priestess]], whose method of preaching this ideology consists of [[TrainingFromHell beating the snot out of you]] [[MiseryBuildsCharacter until you either build the will to fight back]] [[SinkOrSwimMentor or die]].

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** Nagakaborous, the resident oceanic EldritchAbomination goddess of Bilgewater, desires the world to be constantly stirred in "motion", favoring that mortals take initiative and fight to seize their desires, while damning those who remain submissive and stagnant. This extends to her chief priestess, [[BadassPreacher Illaoi, the Kraken Priestess]], whose method of preaching this ideology consists of [[TrainingFromHell beating the snot out of you]] [[MiseryBuildsCharacter until you either build the will to fight back]] [[SinkOrSwimMentor or die]].die]]. Illaoi in the lore once assisted in the overthrow of her former lover Gangplank because she thought that he had grown stagnant ruling Bilgewater, and the coup against him would force him to get off his ass.
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* Most of the cast of ''VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}}'', due to being monsters who exist outside of the human society, so their goals and morals are quite alien. [[HornyDevils Morrigan Aensland]] is the biggest example; she loves to travel to the human world to seek for thrill and excitement (whether it is through combat or seduction, as she needs it to survive), and while she doesn't kill humans it's more because she finds them entertaining.

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