History Anime / PorcoRosso

20th Oct '16 5:11:56 PM dlchen145
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Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's {{homage}} to the early days of aviation and cinema, ''Porco Rosso'' tells the story of a renowned Italian fighter pilot, a veteran of the First World War who has been mysteriously transformed into a pig. During TheRoaringTwenties, Porco Rosso, the 'Red Pig' makes his living as a mercenary, flying a crimson seaplane and doing battle with pirates. Things really start to get interesting for Porco when the pirates, tired of having their butts handed to them by a pig, hire Donald Curtis, a famed American aviator, to take him down. Pursued by the Fascist military he deserted years ago, Porco gains a teenage sidekick, Fio, and takes the fight to the pirates. What follows is an epic journey of self-discovery and general [[BadAss badassery]] in the great Ghibli tradition. It's got all the hallmarks of a Miyazaki movie; strong women, flying machines, air-pirates and an undertone of the supernatural.

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Creator/HayaoMiyazaki's {{homage}} to the early days of aviation and cinema, ''Porco Rosso'' tells the story of a renowned Italian fighter pilot, a veteran of the First World War who has been mysteriously transformed into a pig. During TheRoaringTwenties, Porco Rosso, the 'Red Pig' makes his living as a mercenary, flying a crimson seaplane and doing battle with pirates. Things really start to get interesting for Porco when the pirates, tired of having their butts handed to them by a pig, hire Donald Curtis, a famed American aviator, to take him down. Pursued by the Fascist military he deserted years ago, Porco gains a teenage sidekick, Fio, and takes the fight to the pirates. What follows is an epic journey of self-discovery and general [[BadAss badassery]] badassery in the great Ghibli tradition. It's got all the hallmarks of a Miyazaki movie; strong women, flying machines, air-pirates and an undertone of the supernatural.
17th Apr '16 7:21:13 AM N8han11
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* WifeHusbandry: Isn't Fio a ''little'' young for Curtis?
** She is 17, and Curtis can't be much older if he still looks young in the 1940s.
** Furthermore, 17 is the age of consent in plenty of civilized, first-world countries. Some places even go as low as 16 or 14, so 17 really isn't objectively bad at all. This is a matter of an individual getting his set of moral guidelines from whatever society he's raised in rather than a matter of what is inherently right or wrong. Even further, that kind of age difference was the expected norm long ago. This is a testament to the fact that if we were currently living in those days or in another country, we'd have no moral objection to it whatsoever, and that people only believe it's wrong because their society has told them it is.

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* %%* WifeHusbandry: Isn't Fio a ''little'' young for Curtis?
** She is 17, and Curtis can't be much older if he still looks young in the 1940s.
** Furthermore, 17 is the age of consent in plenty of civilized, first-world countries. Some places even go as low as 16 or 14, so 17 really isn't objectively bad at all. This is a matter of an individual getting his set of moral guidelines from whatever society he's raised in rather than a matter of what is inherently right or wrong. Even further, that kind of age difference was the expected norm long ago. This is a testament to the fact that if we were currently living in those days or in another country, we'd have no moral objection to it whatsoever, and that people only believe it's wrong because their society has told them it is.
Curtis?
12th Mar '16 10:25:09 AM snake300
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11th Feb '16 12:43:18 PM EBsessed
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** Furthermore, 17 is the age of consent in plenty of civilized, first-world countries. Some places even go as low as 16 or 14, so 17 really isn't objectively bad at all. This is a matter of an individual getting his set of moral guidelines from whatever society he's raised in rather than a matter of what is inherently right or wrong. Even further, that kind of age difference was the expected norm long ago. This is a testament to the fact that if we were currently living in those days or in another country, we'd have no moral objection to it whatsoever, and that people only believe it's wrong because society has changed and told them it is.

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** Furthermore, 17 is the age of consent in plenty of civilized, first-world countries. Some places even go as low as 16 or 14, so 17 really isn't objectively bad at all. This is a matter of an individual getting his set of moral guidelines from whatever society he's raised in rather than a matter of what is inherently right or wrong. Even further, that kind of age difference was the expected norm long ago. This is a testament to the fact that if we were currently living in those days or in another country, we'd have no moral objection to it whatsoever, and that people only believe it's wrong because their society has changed and told them it is.
11th Feb '16 12:37:41 PM EBsessed
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** Furthermore, 17 is the age of consent in plenty of civilized, first-world countries. Some places even go as low as 16 or 14, so 17 really isn't objectively bad at all. This is a matter of an individual getting his set of moral guidelines from whatever society he's raised in rather than a matter of what is inherently right or wrong. Even further, that kind of age difference was the expected norm long ago. This is a testament to the fact that if we were currently living in those days or in another country, we'd have no moral objection to it whatsoever, and that people only believe it's wrong because society has changed and told them it is.
11th Feb '16 12:13:30 PM EBsessed
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* ThePowerOfLove: What inspires Porco to [[HeroicSecondWind get up and win the fight]], and may be what turns him back into a man, though perhaps Porco simply let go of his cynicism.

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* ThePowerOfLove: What inspires Porco to [[HeroicSecondWind get up and win the fight]], and may be what turns him back into a man, though it could also perhaps be Porco simply let just letting go of his cynicism.
11th Feb '16 12:10:06 PM EBsessed
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* ObliviousToLove: Porco does not appear to be aware of the fact that Gina is in love with him. It takes Curtiss painfully beating it into him--followed by a comment from Gina herself--for it to stick. Sort of.

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* ObliviousToLove: Porco does not appear to be aware of the fact that Gina is in love with him. It takes Curtiss Curtis painfully beating it into him--followed by a comment from Gina herself--for it to stick. Sort of.
11th Feb '16 12:09:22 PM EBsessed
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* NoPlaceForMeThere: Porco seems to feel this way about human society due to his guilt. He does live alone on an island after all.

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* NoPlaceForMeThere: Porco seems to feel this way about human society due to his guilt.guilt and his curse. He does live alone on an island after all.
11th Feb '16 12:08:40 PM EBsessed
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* GoodOldFisticuffs: What the epic air fight between Porco and Curtiss boils down to after both their guns fail.

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* GoodOldFisticuffs: What the epic air fight between Porco and Curtiss Curtis boils down to after both their guns fail.



* NoEndorHolocaust: The duel ends up bringing both planes above a crowd, and [[MoralDissonance neither Porco nor Curtiss apparently see a problem]] with maintaining the fight over an area packed with innocent spectators. Tons of property damage ensues, but somehow the stray gunfire only hits inanimate objects.

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* NoEndorHolocaust: The duel ends up bringing both planes above a crowd, and [[MoralDissonance neither Porco nor Curtiss Curtis apparently see a problem]] with maintaining the fight over an area packed with innocent spectators. Tons of property damage ensues, but somehow the stray gunfire only hits inanimate objects.
11th Feb '16 11:52:54 AM EBsessed
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: The Sky Pirates, despite being pirates, are actually a pretty honorable lot. Even though they take entire class of little girls hostage, they don't do anything to hurt them and even take the entire class because they're concerned about splitting them up. They are also easily shamed out of murdering Porco by Fio, who appeals to their sense of honor.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: The Sky Pirates, despite being pirates, are actually a pretty honorable lot. Even though they take an entire class of little girls hostage, they don't do anything to hurt them and even actually take the entire class because they're concerned about splitting them up. They are also easily shamed out of murdering Porco by Fio, who appeals to their sense of honor.
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