History Analysis / MagicTheGathering

20th Apr '18 2:43:55 PM slvstrChung
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White and Blue are allies because they both believe in the common good and in creating improvements in the world. Having said that, White accomplishes this by implementing laws and regulations for society as a whole, whereas Blue uses science to improve individuals; one offers police officers, the other doctors. White and Blue tend to have a lot of "answers": almost any spell you can play, White and Blue can somehow interfere with. Having said that, Blue tends to strike preemptively with [[AntiMagic counterspells]] whereas White uses {{Power Nullifier}}s after the fact. Plus, counterspells are ''expensive''; White's answers are cheaper but, like most Power Nullifiers, can be removed again, or involve MutualDisadvantage where White gives you something in return for taking something away.

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White and Blue are allies because they both believe in the common good and in creating improvements in the world. Having said that, White accomplishes this by implementing laws and regulations for society as a whole, whereas Blue uses science to improve individuals; one offers police officers, the other doctors. White and Blue tend to have a lot of "answers": almost any spell you can play, White and Blue can somehow interfere with. Having said that, Blue tends to strike preemptively with [[AntiMagic counterspells]] whereas White uses {{Power Nullifier}}s after the fact. Plus, counterspells are ''expensive''; White's answers are cheaper but, like most Power Nullifiers, can be removed again, or involve MutualDisadvantage where White gives you something in return for taking something away.
away. They can sometimes clash in the long term, though, as Blue is willing to be more selfish than White would prefer.



Blue and Green don't get along because of their attitudes towards the world, nature in particular, which boil down to HarmonyVersusDiscipline. Green believes that StatusQuoIsGod: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." This tends to result in thinking ScienceIsBad for meddling with ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow. Blue, on the other hand, is trying to figure out how to [[Music/JonathanCoulton build a half-monkey half-pony to please you]]. Blue loves technology, and has a number of spells that work well with artifacts; while less common, it also has some expensive and eye-popping effects in enchantment form. Green hates tech, and currently has the best artifact- and enchantment-destruction in the game. In fact, ''the'' artifact- and enchantment-destruction spell, [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=249 Disenchant]], was permanently moved from White to Green (as "[[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=207336 Naturalize]]") after ThePowersThatBe realized it belonged there better. Blue is progressive and wants to actively improve things, while Green is conservative and thinks that if change happens, it should come about organically.

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Blue and Green don't get along because of their attitudes towards the world, nature in particular, which boil down to HarmonyVersusDiscipline. Green believes that StatusQuoIsGod: "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." This tends to result in thinking ScienceIsBad for meddling with ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow. Blue, on the other hand, is trying to figure out how to [[Music/JonathanCoulton build a half-monkey half-pony to please you]]. Blue loves technology, and has a number of spells that work well with artifacts; while less common, it also has some expensive and eye-popping effects in enchantment form. Green hates tech, and currently has the best artifact- and enchantment-destruction strongest DispelMagic spells in the game. In game; in fact, ''the'' artifact- and enchantment-destruction spell, [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=249 Disenchant]], was permanently moved from White to Green (as "[[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=207336 Naturalize]]") after ThePowersThatBe realized it belonged there better. Blue is progressive and wants to actively improve things, while Green is conservative and thinks that if change happens, it should come about organically.
16th Apr '18 10:24:08 AM foxmccloud4387
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** ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' has a more noble and almost downright heroic example of Black/White in the first Hassan i-Sabbah, the Old Man of the Mountain, better known as "King Hassan" to distinguish him from his successors who enforce his LegacyImmortality. King Hassan takes lives in the name of God, his unwavering faith granting him immense power over death and turning his existence into one close to a Grim Reaper. However, King Hassan avoids the pitfalls of becoming a KnightTemplar, using his very strict code of conduct to act as an impartial judge rather than a bloodthirsty killer, and his tendency to skirt around his code through ExactWords to show kindness towards the heroes allows him to avoid the worst of White as well. He considers himself the shadow of the heroes, taking lives so that they can save lives, and whenever he's appeared in the story he's been on the heroes' side.

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** ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' has a more noble and almost downright heroic example of Black/White in the first Hassan i-Sabbah, the Old Man of the Mountain, better known as "King Hassan" to distinguish him from his successors who enforce his LegacyImmortality. King Hassan takes lives in the name of God, his unwavering faith granting him immense power over death and turning his existence into one close to a Grim Reaper. However, King Hassan avoids the pitfalls of becoming a KnightTemplar, using his very strict code of conduct to act as an impartial judge rather than a bloodthirsty killer, and his tendency to skirt even skirts around his said code through ExactWords to show kindness towards the heroes allows him to avoid the worst of White as well.heroes. He considers himself the shadow of the heroes, taking lives so that they can save lives, and whenever he's appeared in the story he's been on the heroes' side.
16th Apr '18 10:22:12 AM foxmccloud4387
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** ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' has a more noble and almost downright heroic example in the first Hassan i-Sabbah, the Old Man of the Mountain, better known as "King Hassan" to distinguish him from his successors who enforce his LegacyImmortality. King Hassan takes lives in the name of God, his unwavering faith granting him immense power over death and turning his existence into one close to a Grim Reaper. However, King Hassan avoids the pitfalls of becoming a KnightTemplar, using his very strict code of conduct to act as an impartial judge rather than a bloodthirsty killer. He considers himself the shadow of the heroes, taking lives so that they can save lives, and whenever he's appeared in the story he's been on the heroes' side.

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** ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' has a more noble and almost downright heroic example of Black/White in the first Hassan i-Sabbah, the Old Man of the Mountain, better known as "King Hassan" to distinguish him from his successors who enforce his LegacyImmortality. King Hassan takes lives in the name of God, his unwavering faith granting him immense power over death and turning his existence into one close to a Grim Reaper. However, King Hassan avoids the pitfalls of becoming a KnightTemplar, using his very strict code of conduct to act as an impartial judge rather than a bloodthirsty killer.killer, and his tendency to skirt around his code through ExactWords to show kindness towards the heroes allows him to avoid the worst of White as well. He considers himself the shadow of the heroes, taking lives so that they can save lives, and whenever he's appeared in the story he's been on the heroes' side.
15th Apr '18 4:18:37 PM nombretomado
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* An example of the duality of Red/White is to compare Alucard and The Major from {{Hellsing}}; both are Red/White characters but in opposite directions. Alucard uses his Red bloodlust to attain White’s ideal of a vampire-free England; whereas the Major uses White’s organization to spend 50 years preparing for a Red-style bloody war.

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* An example of the duality of Red/White is to compare Alucard and The Major from {{Hellsing}}; ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}''; both are Red/White characters but in opposite directions. Alucard uses his Red bloodlust to attain White’s ideal of a vampire-free England; whereas the Major uses White’s organization to spend 50 years preparing for a Red-style bloody war.
15th Apr '18 9:54:56 AM MTGAdept
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* San from ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'' is a good example of a Gruul character. Although human, she fights for her [[RaisedByWolves adoptive family]] of green-aligned wolf spirits against the humans led by the white/black Lady Eboshi (in fact, as explored [[http://romanoffblitzer.tumblr.com/post/145218856764/color-pie-analysis-princess-mononoke here]], the movie itself is a nice example of a conflict between Green and White, acceptance of nature clashing with the wish of a group for safety). She is extremely passionate, fueled by her rage at both the destruction of the forest and her abandonment by her original human parents. And that's not even getting into [[UnresolvedSexualTension her conflicted feelings for Ashitaka]].

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* San from ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'' is a good example of a Gruul character. Although human, she fights for her [[RaisedByWolves adoptive family]] of green-aligned Green-aligned wolf spirits against the humans led by the white/black White Lady Eboshi (in fact, as explored [[http://romanoffblitzer.tumblr.com/post/145218856764/color-pie-analysis-princess-mononoke here]], the movie itself is a nice example of a conflict between Green and White, acceptance of nature clashing with the wish of a group for safety). She is extremely passionate, fueled by her rage at both the destruction of the forest and her abandonment by her original human parents. And that's not even getting into [[UnresolvedSexualTension her conflicted feelings for Ashitaka]].
13th Apr '18 9:50:18 AM foxmccloud4387
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** ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' has a more noble and almost downright heroic example in the first Hassan i-Sabbah, the Old Man of the Mountain, better known as "King Hassan" to distinguish him from his successors who enforce his LegacyImmortality. King Hassan takes lives in the name of God, his unwavering faith granting him immense power over death and turning his existence into one close to a Grim Reaper. However, King Hassan avoids the pitfalls of becoming a KnightTemplar, using his very strict code of conduct to act as an impartial judge rather than a bloodthirsty killer. He considers himself the shadow of the heroes, taking lives so that they can save lives, and whenever he's appeared in the story he's been on the heroes' side.
10th Apr '18 3:22:00 PM MTGAdept
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* San from ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'' is a good example of a Gruul character. Although human, she fights for her [[RaisedByWolves adoptive family]] of green-aligned wolf spirits against the humans led by the white/black Lady Eboshi (in fact, the movie itself is a nice example of a conflict between Green and White, acceptance of nature clashing with the wish of a group for safety). She is extremely passionate, fueled by her rage at both the destruction of the forest and her abandonment by her original human parents. And that's not even getting into [[UnresolvedSexualTension her conflicted feelings for Ashitaka]].

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* San from ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'' is a good example of a Gruul character. Although human, she fights for her [[RaisedByWolves adoptive family]] of green-aligned wolf spirits against the humans led by the white/black Lady Eboshi (in fact, as explored [[http://romanoffblitzer.tumblr.com/post/145218856764/color-pie-analysis-princess-mononoke here]], the movie itself is a nice example of a conflict between Green and White, acceptance of nature clashing with the wish of a group for safety). She is extremely passionate, fueled by her rage at both the destruction of the forest and her abandonment by her original human parents. And that's not even getting into [[UnresolvedSexualTension her conflicted feelings for Ashitaka]].
10th Apr '18 3:17:07 PM MTGAdept
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* San from ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'' is a good example of a Gruul character. Although human, she fights for her [[RaisedByWolves adoptive family]] of green-aligned wolf spirits against the humans led by the white/black Lady Eboshi (in fact, the movie itself is a nice example of a conflict between Green and White, acceptance conflicting with safety). She is extremely passionate, fueled by her rage at both the destruction of the forest and her abandonment by her original human parents. And that's not even getting into [[UnresolvedSexualTension her conflicted feelings for Ashitaka]].

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* San from ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'' is a good example of a Gruul character. Although human, she fights for her [[RaisedByWolves adoptive family]] of green-aligned wolf spirits against the humans led by the white/black Lady Eboshi (in fact, the movie itself is a nice example of a conflict between Green and White, acceptance conflicting of nature clashing with the wish of a group for safety). She is extremely passionate, fueled by her rage at both the destruction of the forest and her abandonment by her original human parents. And that's not even getting into [[UnresolvedSexualTension her conflicted feelings for Ashitaka]].
10th Apr '18 1:16:25 PM MTGAdept
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* San from ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'' is a good example of a Gruul character. Although human, she fights for her [[RaisedByWolves adoptive family]] of green-aligned wolf spirits against the humans led by the blue/black Lady Eboshi. She is extremely passionate, fueled by her rage at both the destruction of the forest and her abandonment by her original human parents. And that's not even getting into [[UnresolvedSexualTension her conflicted feelings for Ashitaka]].

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* San from ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'' is a good example of a Gruul character. Although human, she fights for her [[RaisedByWolves adoptive family]] of green-aligned wolf spirits against the humans led by the blue/black white/black Lady Eboshi.Eboshi (in fact, the movie itself is a nice example of a conflict between Green and White, acceptance conflicting with safety). She is extremely passionate, fueled by her rage at both the destruction of the forest and her abandonment by her original human parents. And that's not even getting into [[UnresolvedSexualTension her conflicted feelings for Ashitaka]].
9th Apr '18 8:37:24 PM Halford18
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* San from ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'' is a good example of a Gruul character. Even though human, she fights for her [[RaisedByWolves adoptive family]] of green-aligned wolf spirits against the humans led by the blue/black Lady Eboshi. She is extremely passionate, fueled by her rage at both the destruction of the forest and her abandonment by her original human parents. And that's not even getting into [[UnresolvedSexualTension her conflicted feelings for Ashitaka]].

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* San from ''Anime/PrincessMononoke'' is a good example of a Gruul character. Even though Although human, she fights for her [[RaisedByWolves adoptive family]] of green-aligned wolf spirits against the humans led by the blue/black Lady Eboshi. She is extremely passionate, fueled by her rage at both the destruction of the forest and her abandonment by her original human parents. And that's not even getting into [[UnresolvedSexualTension her conflicted feelings for Ashitaka]].
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